Finally, I got jobs! But, I'm not happy.... I can't believe the owner... Please give me an advice or encouraging comments !:) #canada #canadalife #fromjapan
He is committing a crime. There is no such thing as a test shift or free work for multiple days. He is taking advantage of you. If you report him to the labour board he will be in big trouble. Its completely illegal in Canada to require unpaid test work.
He could have been upfront about it. He should have paid you, even if you worked one hour and he did not want to employ you!. Please don't be nervous or apologetic about asking him. A good employer would have informed you of what is going to happen and when you will be paid. I m based in UK and been to Canada a few times. I would put it down to bad experience and look elsewhere. Don't give him another chance without paying you. Goo dluck.
Here in Canada we always clarify the things that are typically "unspoken". If you get a bad feeling about something, you should bring it up politely, standing up for yourself should not be seen as an "awkward" thing to do. Perhaps try to get a job in customer service at the airport or customer service where you can leverage your japanese skills in order to earn a higher wage ( there are a bunch being advertised online)? Best of luck.
Thank you. I'm in Canada, I try to be like Canadian. I mean, I'll ask that politely and stand up for myself. Then, I'll check such a advertisements as hiring!
I'm from Japan and I faced the same problems. "test shifts" are what is called a training shifts. The employer still have to pay you for the training. The employer, also depending your employment agreement during the probation period can terminate you but they still have to pay you for the amount of hours worked. I feel your pain, as I was tricked a few times too.
I am really inspired with your way of dealing with these issues…. My advice to you to keep job search and I am sure you will good opportunities as your language improves and you understand system in Canada .
Test shift still gets paid. There is no such thing as unpaid trial in Canada. Canada is a lot less honest place than Japan. A lot of people will try to take advantage of you. As an immigrant myself, I recommend people not to work for south Asian bosses.
Thing to learn when you ask for a restaurant job in Canada. Talk about the job (tasks), talk about the schedule, most importantly, make sure to talk about the pay (+ the amount of tip). Do Not go and accept everything, they will abuse you.
Nothis is illegal in canada, and you should be paid for your trial work and demand payment for all the time you already worked for right away. You can choose to report him if he does not want to give you the wage. Also, just run, this place sounds too sketchy, you don't want to give them your sin number and personal information as you don't know what they will do with it. Your second job sounds much more legitimate, go with that one, and keep looking!
The curry restaurant not paying you for your "test shift" is illegal. Any hours you work, must be paid to you. It sounds like the owner is taking advantage of you, and it should be reported to Ministry of Labour. I'm sorry to hear of your stress, but I'm sure you will overcome this experience and enjoy Canadian life. 🙂
Ah I'm so sorry to hear that when you finally got a job that there's already complications with it. I personally don't know what's happening right now, but it sounds very sketchy and not legal for your employer to be doing this. But good luck! You can do this and hopefully everything will work out with you :DDDDD (I'm rooting for you :33)
Hey, I am sorry this happened. Unfortunately bad people are everywhere. Now as newcomer to Canada it’s easy to take advantage of you. Most post secondary schools have a department to support foreign students. You should seek them out and ask them questions to know your rights. Also, as you befriend Canadians you will get a better guard as friends will likely be offended when someone takes advantage of you. Everything will be ok. Focus on what you can do and remember that moving to another country with another languages is hard and brave. Don’t neglect socializing and try to look for clubs at your school so you can build friends that can help you get through the hard part and act as a source of local knowledge.
If he is Canadian or American, the best way is to say, "I'm really enjoying working here. What days are payday?" He has to tell you the pay schedule. In the U.S., he has to ask you how many tax credits you choose (there is a worksheet). Don't ask him if the job is paid or shifts were tests. Don't put those ideas into his head. Speak about what you want, payday. It's normal to ask. Ordinarily I try to learn what days are paydays from coworkers but it's ok to ask the owner. He should not be vague - the question must be answered. In the U.S., if he doesn't answer, you might have justification for quitting and if you have prior wages in the year, you might be able to collect unemployment, which he would have to pay part of. Not sure about Canada. But be sure to check - if you have wages in the last 12 months and if you quit for good reason, you might be able to collect unemployment money every week by following the unemployment directions online.
Thank you for helpful comment! I'll say "When is the payday?". I didn't have such a idea before reading your comment! Thank you for telling me your great idea and knowledge!
Feel sorry to hear that, kawaisoo... What I want to say that now it hard with a job in Canada, to much people and not that much bussnines to provide job to all the people, but I see that you are respectfull and hard working person, so You will find something here ( Ganbate ), and this restourant owner is a scamer, He knows that there probably like 3..5 people a day applying for that open position so he is just using them, like that just for few hours, jyst not to hire and pay to employee... That's illigal actions ( you can report him to police ) or better ( tell the restourant name and location here in your chanel ) so his crime bussines would strugle. I even think that that's good you didnt show to him your SIN or your work permit, who knows how he would use it in his dark scheem... Me myself here in canada just a bit more than a year, it's hard at begining, but just belive there are some good employers out there, of course not all of them but there are some! Wish you to find one! And remember even One working day , it's a working day, So first you need to be hired sign a agreetment or contract, just then start working!!! And it shall be payed. Even if you quit after first day, That's called probetion period, you have a rights to quit any time. All the best to You .
Thank you for your support. I got it. I should not show him my important information. First, I will ask him about that, then if I can’t get good reply, I’ll report labor boards! Gambaru!!
@@Tina-Japan yep that's right, employer do will need your sin, but just make sure first that everything is clear and you will sign a work agreetment...
I don't know what type of work your visa allows you, but should try to apply in manufacturing jobs or maintenance rather than service jobs. Manufacturing usually pay much more and they offer unionized condition even for temporary workings, that how I paid my university. Where I lived you can just walk in an industrial park to see all the hiring boards outside manufactures. You can also check with hospital if they are hiring cleaning staff or cafeteria staff, the pay is usually similar to manufacturing. On the long run, if you decide to stay in Canada, I would suggest that you find a job in your real domain of study or learn a new trade. Usually Ontario and Quebec are the manufacturing hub in Canada, while the west is more on resources and services. Anyways, if you ever want to learn french, you should try to study in Quebec city or Montreal, people are very nice and the life is less expensive than in BC, especially in Quebec city. Cheers and good luck.
Actually, my place doesn’t have many manufacturing job , but we have a big hospital! I’ll check the website of hospital!! By the way, Quebec city is one of the places that I want to visit!! I make money here, then I’ll travel there someday!!
@@Tina-Japan Hi Tina, I hope you find a nice job. If you ever visit Quebec, you will probably arrive in Montreal first. I suggest you take a fews days there to visit the city, see the old port, stroll in little italy and le Plateau,many things to see and do in Montreal. The nicest way to get to Quebec city is the Via rail train because it goes on the scenic path especially as it climbs the cliffs to get to Quebec central station, Gare du Palais. Cheapest way is by bus. While in Quebec I strongly suggest that you also visit the Charlevoix region, le train de Charlevoix offers excursions but croisières AML also do. The best time to visit are late spring, summer and early fall like end of september to mid-october. Summer is probably more expensive. Cheers!
what he is doing is wrong. as an owner of a business for 25 years, you can ask someone to work so you can see their skills, but you can't ask them to do it for free unless you both have agreed to the terms and it has been documented and both parties have signed said document. You don't want to work at any job when it starts off like this. I would suggest reporting them but at the least... look elsewhere because it will only get worse.
If you do not know how to cook then maybe you could get trained at a restaurant while you work, and get paid at the same time. If you studied to become a chef then it should be easy, for you to get a job at a restaurant. If a restaurant owner does not like your work performance then I think you will lose your job. Try to avoid making mistakes! There are people who want to work at restaurants, but eventually learn this is not their cup of tea. I think part time should be around 4 hour shifts. Full time around 8 hour shifts, and maybe some people work more hours at a restaurant. Regarding myself, I worked at a restaurant, and it was paid work in Canada. Compensation was discussed before I started working at a restaurant!!!
You are never expected to work for free in Canada. Working for free is called volunteering. Unless you agree to volunteer you are legally entitled to be compensated the you work in Canada. You should totally go after this guy.
There’s no such thing as test shifts. If there is, that happens when you officially join the team. People call it training period. Also, I am pretty sure you aren’t building rockets or doing quantum research in that curry shop. So why does he want to “observe” your work for weeks?? It’s a curry shop for god sake. Please. RUN!!!! Hope you find a good employer soon ❤❤
I think you better clarify with the owner of the curry restaurant before working for him again. I am wondering if he would like to hire you illegally (To avoids paying the tax), which is why the document is not required. It is neither odd nor impolite, if you would like to confirm your employment status and wages. Good luck 🤞
You should probe him about the questions you have and reject the curry restaurant if you think the other job is more secure(visa related issues solved etc). Just let the curry guy know that you found a new job if thats the case.
Isn't the SIN enought on it's own for proving you are legally allowed to work? I don't think you need to share the visa info with an employer. The SIN should be enough and something else like provincial ID card which shows your date of birth.
Be assertive. It is not uncommon to see people here in Canada taking advantage of others. It’s a good thing you’re smart. You know your resources. There is no free trial here (only free taste 😂). You’re not volunteering. You want to be compensated. I hate that you need to experience such horrible employer. Ganbatte me. Damasareta dame ne.
I think that he wanted to let you work without any permits, but you having asked him about visa etc. made it impossible. In Germany it´s called working black - Schwarzarbeit.
This is what it sounded like to me. The employer may be trying to avoid paying taxes, but it will cause problems for her down the line even if she gets paid.
He probably just wants to pay you cash. Not good if you want to keep open the option of staying here. He will pay you if you ask for your money because it wouldn't be worth him having you report him. These days with your phone history, it's easy to show you were there.
@@Tina-Japan But you need to ask for your money. At the very minimum you're going get minimum wage for each hour you work there. You actually have a responsibility to do it, otherwise he's just going to find other students and use them in the same way. I guarantee you he will give you your money once you talk about reporting him. Edit: I just noticed this is a month old so maybe already got your money. If not, it's still not too late at all.
you are welcome... You seem like a really nice person and i hope you get the job that suits you. Whoever ends up hiring you is very lucky...@@Tina-Japan
Has he stolen your tips? Because if he is, I would not work there. If he fires you for pocketing the tips before he can steal them, unemployment might have sympathy for you and pay you, if you qualify.
He is committing a crime. There is no such thing as a test shift or free work for multiple days. He is taking advantage of you. If you report him to the labour board he will be in big trouble. Its completely illegal in Canada to require unpaid test work.
Thank you. I'll ask him about working, then if I couldn't get good response, I'll told labour board.
If she agreed to it in agreement signed by both parties its completely legal. Firms do this to students all the time
He could have been upfront about it. He should have paid you, even if you worked one hour and he did not want to employ you!. Please don't be nervous or apologetic about asking him. A good employer would have informed you of what is going to happen and when you will be paid. I m based in UK and been to Canada a few times. I would put it down to bad experience and look elsewhere. Don't give him another chance without paying you. Goo dluck.
@@Tina-Japan You should tell labour board right away. I've had relatives we brought over from overseas have managers that try to take advantage.
@@alexg9727Nothing about this situation is legal. Nothing was signed, watch the video. You are incorrect. From her story he is breaking the law.
No , it is not ok . He is taking advantage of you and you should probably report him
Yes
Thank you! First, I'll try to ask him about that!!
Here in Canada we always clarify the things that are typically "unspoken". If you get a bad feeling about something, you should bring it up politely, standing up for yourself should not be seen as an "awkward" thing to do. Perhaps try to get a job in customer service at the airport or customer service where you can leverage your japanese skills in order to earn a higher wage ( there are a bunch being advertised online)? Best of luck.
Thank you. I'm in Canada, I try to be like Canadian. I mean, I'll ask that politely and stand up for myself. Then, I'll check such a advertisements as hiring!
I'm from Japan and I faced the same problems. "test shifts" are what is called a training shifts. The employer still have to pay you for the training. The employer, also depending your employment agreement during the probation period can terminate you but they still have to pay you for the amount of hours worked. I feel your pain, as I was tricked a few times too.
omg, that is so bad. I feel so bad for you.
Oh my god..😢 So sorry to hear that. we should be careful with that.
I am really inspired with your way of dealing with these issues….
My advice to you to keep job search and I am sure you will good opportunities as your language improves and you understand system in Canada .
Thank you. I'll keep to study English for getting a job!
Test shift still gets paid. There is no such thing as unpaid trial in Canada. Canada is a lot less honest place than Japan. A lot of people will try to take advantage of you. As an immigrant myself, I recommend people not to work for south Asian bosses.
South Asian you mean Indian? lol
do you think immigrants aren't taken advantage of in japan?
Actually, The boss is Canadian...🥲
I want to get better job and work for better boss🥲
There is such a thing as unpaid work. Its called internship
@@Tina-Japan read the agreement carefully that you signed when you got hired
Thing to learn when you ask for a restaurant job in Canada. Talk about the job (tasks), talk about the schedule, most importantly, make sure to talk about the pay (+ the amount of tip). Do Not go and accept everything, they will abuse you.
Thank you. I learned that with my experience. Next time, I'll do that!
Nothis is illegal in canada, and you should be paid for your trial work and demand payment for all the time you already worked for right away. You can choose to report him if he does not want to give you the wage. Also, just run, this place sounds too sketchy, you don't want to give them your sin number and personal information as you don't know what they will do with it. Your second job sounds much more legitimate, go with that one, and keep looking!
That is true, don't give them SIN number, they can really hurt you if they know it.
Thank you!! That's true, I shouldn't give my information. I'll do that!!
Thank you!! I don't give my SIN number and run!!🏃♀️
The curry restaurant not paying you for your "test shift" is illegal. Any hours you work, must be paid to you. It sounds like the owner is taking advantage of you, and it should be reported to Ministry of Labour. I'm sorry to hear of your stress, but I'm sure you will overcome this experience and enjoy Canadian life. 🙂
Thank you! I want to overcome and I'd like to enjoy the life with ANOTHER JOB!!👍
Ah I'm so sorry to hear that when you finally got a job that there's already complications with it. I personally don't know what's happening right now, but it sounds very sketchy and not legal for your employer to be doing this. But good luck! You can do this and hopefully everything will work out with you :DDDDD (I'm rooting for you :33)
Does it sound sketchy and illegal for you？😢 I think it's not good place for working. I want to get another job!! I'm keep going!!
Hey, I am sorry this happened. Unfortunately bad people are everywhere. Now as newcomer to Canada it’s easy to take advantage of you. Most post secondary schools have a department to support foreign students. You should seek them out and ask them questions to know your rights. Also, as you befriend Canadians you will get a better guard as friends will likely be offended when someone takes advantage of you. Everything will be ok. Focus on what you can do and remember that moving to another country with another languages is hard and brave. Don’t neglect socializing and try to look for clubs at your school so you can build friends that can help you get through the hard part and act as a source of local knowledge.
That’s true. Making friends is very important and best way. I’d like to do that. So, I’ll try to go such a place for making friends!
Sounds illegal. You should run.
Thank you! The place seems sketchy...! I want to run!!
If he is Canadian or American, the best way is to say, "I'm really enjoying working here. What days are payday?" He has to tell you the pay schedule. In the U.S., he has to ask you how many tax credits you choose (there is a worksheet). Don't ask him if the job is paid or shifts were tests. Don't put those ideas into his head. Speak about what you want, payday. It's normal to ask. Ordinarily I try to learn what days are paydays from coworkers but it's ok to ask the owner. He should not be vague - the question must be answered. In the U.S., if he doesn't answer, you might have justification for quitting and if you have prior wages in the year, you might be able to collect unemployment, which he would have to pay part of. Not sure about Canada. But be sure to check - if you have wages in the last 12 months and if you quit for good reason, you might be able to collect unemployment money every week by following the unemployment directions online.
Thank you for helpful comment!
I'll say "When is the payday?". I didn't have such a idea before reading your comment! Thank you for telling me your great idea and knowledge!
Feel sorry to hear that, kawaisoo...
What I want to say that now it hard with a job in Canada, to much people and not that much bussnines to provide job to all the people, but I see that you are respectfull and hard working person, so You will find something here ( Ganbate ), and this restourant owner is a scamer, He knows that there probably like 3..5 people a day applying for that open position so he is just using them, like that just for few hours, jyst not to hire and pay to employee... That's illigal actions ( you can report him to police ) or better ( tell the restourant name and location here in your chanel ) so his crime bussines would strugle. I even think that that's good you didnt show to him your SIN or your work permit, who knows how he would use it in his dark scheem...
Me myself here in canada just a bit more than a year, it's hard at begining, but just belive there are some good employers out there, of course not all of them but there are some! Wish you to find one! And remember even One working day , it's a working day, So first you need to be hired sign a agreetment or contract, just then start working!!! And it shall be payed. Even if you quit after first day, That's called probetion period, you have a rights to quit any time. All the best to You .
Thank you for your support.
I got it. I should not show him my important information. First, I will ask him about that, then if I can’t get good reply, I’ll report labor boards! Gambaru!!
@@Tina-Japan yep that's right, employer do will need your sin, but just make sure first that everything is clear and you will sign a work agreetment...
@@Tina-Japan may I ask wich city or town is it? I'm guesing somewhere in Vancouver area?
I don't know what type of work your visa allows you, but should try to apply in manufacturing jobs or maintenance rather than service jobs. Manufacturing usually pay much more and they offer unionized condition even for temporary workings, that how I paid my university. Where I lived you can just walk in an industrial park to see all the hiring boards outside manufactures. You can also check with hospital if they are hiring cleaning staff or cafeteria staff, the pay is usually similar to manufacturing. On the long run, if you decide to stay in Canada, I would suggest that you find a job in your real domain of study or learn a new trade. Usually Ontario and Quebec are the manufacturing hub in Canada, while the west is more on resources and services. Anyways, if you ever want to learn french, you should try to study in Quebec city or Montreal, people are very nice and the life is less expensive than in BC, especially in Quebec city. Cheers and good luck.
Actually, my place doesn’t have many manufacturing job , but we have a big hospital! I’ll check the website of hospital!!
By the way, Quebec city is one of the places that I want to visit!!
I make money here, then I’ll travel there someday!!
@@Tina-Japan Hi Tina, I hope you find a nice job. If you ever visit Quebec, you will probably arrive in Montreal first. I suggest you take a fews days there to visit the city, see the old port, stroll in little italy and le Plateau,many things to see and do in Montreal. The nicest way to get to Quebec city is the Via rail train because it goes on the scenic path especially as it climbs the cliffs to get to Quebec central station, Gare du Palais. Cheapest way is by bus. While in Quebec I strongly suggest that you also visit the Charlevoix region, le train de Charlevoix offers excursions but croisières AML also do. The best time to visit are late spring, summer and early fall like end of september to mid-october. Summer is probably more expensive. Cheers!
@@gianlucafantini1332 That sounds great!
Thank you for nice suggestion! I might take train to go to Quebec!☺🍁
what he is doing is wrong. as an owner of a business for 25 years, you can ask someone to work so you can see their skills, but you can't ask them to do it for free unless you both have agreed to the terms and it has been documented and both parties have signed said document.
You don't want to work at any job when it starts off like this. I would suggest reporting them but at the least... look elsewhere because it will only get worse.
Oh! You’re a business owner!!
Thank you for leaving good advice and sharing your knowledge.
If you do not know how to cook then maybe you could get trained at a restaurant while you work, and get paid at the same time. If you studied to become a chef then it should be easy, for you to get a job at a restaurant.
If a restaurant owner does not like your work performance then I think you will lose your job. Try to avoid making mistakes!
There are people who want to work at restaurants, but eventually learn this is not their cup of tea.
I think part time should be around 4 hour shifts. Full time around 8 hour shifts, and maybe some people work more hours at a restaurant.
Regarding myself, I worked at a restaurant, and it was paid work in Canada. Compensation was discussed before I started working at a restaurant!!!
Thank you.Actually I'm not interested in becoming a chef. But, I should have talked about wage before starting work!
You are never expected to work for free in Canada. Working for free is called volunteering. Unless you agree to volunteer you are legally entitled to be compensated the you work in Canada. You should totally go after this guy.
Wish you good luck !
Thank you! I'll do my best!
I'ma Canadian living in Japan. I'll help you!
Oh..! You are kind! Thank you!!
I have friends in Vancouver if you need help or a job@@Tina-Japan
There’s no such thing as test shifts. If there is, that happens when you officially join the team. People call it training period.
Also, I am pretty sure you aren’t building rockets or doing quantum research in that curry shop. So why does he want to “observe” your work for weeks?? It’s a curry shop for god sake.
Please. RUN!!!!
Hope you find a good employer soon ❤❤
That's true! I should RUN!!!!
I'll keep finding job!! Thank you!
Sou solteiro mora no Brasil
I’m living in Canada 🍁
It is not ok. You should ask him whey he is goi g to pay for the hours that you worked. If he doesn't pay, report him to police!
Thank you! I'll do that! First, to ask him, 2nd, To report to police!
@@Tina-Japan 100%, if he does not pay, report him to police!
@@Tina-Japan がんばって下さい 😊
I think you better clarify with the owner of the curry restaurant before working for him again. I am wondering if he would like to hire you illegally (To avoids paying the tax), which is why the document is not required. It is neither odd nor impolite, if you would like to confirm your employment status and wages. Good luck 🤞
Thank you. I'll ask him about working, before next shift.then if I couldn't get good response, I'll told labour board.
You should probe him about the questions you have and reject the curry restaurant if you think the other job is more secure(visa related issues solved etc). Just let the curry guy know that you found a new job if thats the case.
Thank you. I'll ask him about that, then if I couldn't get good response, I'll quit the Job with your idea. Thank you!
Isn't the SIN enought on it's own for proving you are legally allowed to work? I don't think you need to share the visa info with an employer. The SIN should be enough and something else like provincial ID card which shows your date of birth.
I see. That's true. But, he didn't ask my SIN and provincial ID too.
Be assertive. It is not uncommon to see people here in Canada taking advantage of others. It’s a good thing you’re smart. You know your resources. There is no free trial here (only free taste 😂). You’re not volunteering. You want to be compensated.
I hate that you need to experience such horrible employer. Ganbatte me. Damasareta dame ne.
Thank you!!
Gambalu and damasarenai!!
To trust my instincts!!
I think that he wanted to let you work without any permits, but you having asked him about visa etc. made it impossible. In Germany it´s called working black - Schwarzarbeit.
This is what it sounded like to me. The employer may be trying to avoid paying taxes, but it will cause problems for her down the line even if she gets paid.
Oh, Actually we have the similar word as "working black" in Japan. This is "Black company". They sound similar! very interesting!
Oh...If he pay my wage, It's happened new issue...I should leave from the restaurant soon.
He probably just wants to pay you cash. Not good if you want to keep open the option of staying here.
He will pay you if you ask for your money because it wouldn't be worth him having you report him. These days with your phone history, it's easy to show you were there.
Thank you for advice! my Intuition said "The place is not good for me", Then I've decided to run from here.
@@Tina-Japan But you need to ask for your money. At the very minimum you're going get minimum wage for each hour you work there. You actually have a responsibility to do it, otherwise he's just going to find other students and use them in the same way. I guarantee you he will give you your money once you talk about reporting him.
Edit: I just noticed this is a month old so maybe already got your money. If not, it's still not too late at all.
@@ifh4030 I've succeeded getting the money! Thank you!! :)
@@Tina-Japan Excellent!
yes this is illegal, even a test shit he as to pay you at least minimum wage
Thank you! I got confidence my working should be paid!!
Report him to the Ministry of Labour
Thank you for giving me an advice :)
@@Tina-Japan no worries. All the best
How can I contact you?
I don’t have any tools for contact. Please just leave a comment 🙏
@@Tina-Japan no insta or email to contact?
Are you in Vancouver?
No, I'm in Kelowna.
I'm from America but that sounds illegal to me. To work and not be paid is crazy and I can't believe that a human has done that to you :(
Thank you for leaving a comment.
I heard some Japanese who worked in Canada have faced such a issues. That's why I'm concerned now😢
you need to be careful. They cannot make you work like that, it is very wrong.
Thank you. I'll truly be careful with that.
you are welcome... You seem like a really nice person and i hope you get the job that suits you. Whoever ends up hiring you is very lucky...@@Tina-Japan
@@ADRIAN1ELTON Oh..so sweet🥲🤍 Thank you. If I find a job( place, owner...) that suits me, I want to be dedicated to work there!
Very illegal on the employer's part. You should report and expose the restaurant.
First, I'll try to talk him about that. Then, If I can't get enough information and money, I'll report him and restaurant!
@@Tina-Japan Hope it all works out for you
@@SecretStepDaddy Thank you🥲
there is no such thing as free in Canada. you can't be nice in Canada. most people will rip you off
I should be careful with such a thing 🥲
Has he stolen your tips? Because if he is, I would not work there. If he fires you for pocketing the tips before he can steal them, unemployment might have sympathy for you and pay you, if you qualify.
Unfortunately, I have no way to know where the tip goes.because, I've just started working there. But, I'll be careful with him.