One of the very few channels where I actually turn on the bell to get notified of your uploads. Excellent video, once again! There may not be enough Cosmere-aware nerds in the world to truly appreciate your work for this channel to explode but you deserve a ton of recognition. Well done!!!
Thank you friend! I highly appreciate it. I'm going to start branching out to other topics soon, just had to get a few Stormlight videos under my belt to cover ROW. Any other specific topics you'd like to see me cover?
Maybe the difference of the twinkling lights or all the investiture that we’ve seen on Roshar? Also, I’m trying to rewatch the video but it’s not loading for some reason...
Oh, the unmade one would be fun. I'm taking a break from roshar for a bit, but when I start back up this will be one of the first options on my list. Thanks for your input!
Your single best video. I am 100% sure that you nailed the basics, and the memory coin is a great call. I disagree with some of the finer points of your unified theory, and think Hoid has even more awareness of the situation than you suggest. This explains why he thinks both versions of the meeting went exactly as planned - the second time, he's referencing the entirety of both interactions.
Good points. I never thought to ask why Hoid was there above and beyond cracking wise. However, Adolin gives Kaladin a coin from Nalthis before he departs for Lasting Integrity. I think there is something to TOd not understanding Wit's pun of cents and nonsense. A Rosharan wouldn't get that pun. But I think Rayse would have, even if he didn't find it funny. Rayse can't have been that stupid. Lastly, I think Broken gods specifies that Odium is still bound by his former promises (technically he promised not to destroy karbranth, he didn't promise to destroy humanity except karbranth). Hoid voided whatever his earlier agreement with Rod was when he appeared in Kaladin's dream to give him soup. But he tried to remake the deal by writing back into the contract between Rod and Dalinar. I would love to get a copy of that contract, but will probably have to wait until part one of book 5's epigraphs.
All very good points. Out of curiosity, what makes you think Hoid voided a contract during kaladin's dream? And I completely forgot about the coin from Nalthis- def one of those things I just didn't retain on the first read-through. I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of weirdness having to do with Odium and his contract with Taravangian, but honestly can't even think of what implications there will be.
@@LoreoftheWorlds "I can't keep this bubble up much longer I'm afraid." Wit said, "He'll notice if I do-and then he'll destroy me. I have violated our agreement, which exposes me to his direct action. I'd rather not be killed, as I have seven more people I wanted to insult today" p. 920 The Dog and the Dragon. My friend pointed this out to me. I missed it too.
Awesome new tracks, some excellently complex animations...not only do I give you a standing O for this one, it makes me all the more excited to see what next year brings!
When Hoid went to Braize s Vision on Kaladin he stated that he was letting himselve vulnerable. I would think Rayse did not know that he helped Kaladin neither Taravangian but that Taravangian trying what he could do to Hoid he destroyed t'he breaths wich were previusly untoucheable cos of the contract but as he helped Kaladin those Breaths now are manipulable by Odium and Taravangian accidentaly found this new hole on t'he contract
Ooooooohhhh, very good theory. I definitely want to revisit this when we've had a few years to go over all the details- this is the sort of thing I didn't pick up on first read.
I think Odium is going to be released with full power, and take over all Roshar. Kal, bridge Four, and shallan will most likely die after they speak their final ideals, but die heroically. While Dalinar does a Sazed, using the storm fathers connection to honor to become the vessel for honor, but Tod anticipates this and finally shatters the honor shard. Cultivation will probably bend to odium in order to survive, not to mention Odium plus Cultivation would be pretty OP. Imagine the galactic threat that would ensue in the third era... an Odium controlled Roshar, using corrupted fused, Thunderclasts, and whatever else at Odiums disposal, invading the other planets with shards... seems like the scale and stakes sanderson loves to set up for a conclusion to the cosmere as a whole
We know Hoid is an allomancer, he did eat one of preservation’s metals, but is he a feurchamist? I don’t think he has ever demonstrated feurchamist abilities so I question the coppermind theory. Although it could be unkeyed metal minds as demonstrated in mistborn era 2 I still think it’s unlikely.
I definitely think he something on the coin. Thanks for this. Idk what it is exactly but your videos are really good and I enjoy them a lot. Appreciate what you do!
@@LoreoftheWorlds (Big Spoilers) wow. Just finished Rhythm of War. I was not expecting that amount of complexity. I mean, seons, full discussions of Investiture, Shards, Shardworlds, revelations of Hoid, mentioning dragons, Vasher using Awakening, the main characters knowing in detail about the Cosmere, and detailed talk of Ascention. And that epilogue as well, scary and brilliant (so, Hoid "hacked" the system to use Breaths to store memories instead of Metalminds). Not to mention the full sci-fantasy Navani chapters. And to think I got excited when Nalthis and Scadrial were mentioned in the beginning. I had no idea. I'm kind of on the fence though. Book 4 Brandon? I thought less than half of this would make it into book 5, and the latter half of the series would be devoted to the Cosmere stuff. I'm still pretty surprised. (Poor Teft)
Lots to think about indeed! There is always so much in these books we don't notice till like the third reread. There's gonna be so much that clicks into place when I do my reread before the next book
I get so irritated by the Hoid stans who can't accept that someone beat him in any way. For the record, Brandon has confirmed by now that Vargodium flat-out won that encounter, Hoid was hornswoggled. I have heard a million people all talking about how it's a 100% sure thing that Hoid absolutely won that encounter. It's based purely on the idea that they want their boy to be perfect. It's so trite.
Spoilers for Bands of Mourning: . . . . There are ways around this, with feruchemical unkeyed metalminds, as we see at the very end of Bands of Mourning
@@LoreoftheWorlds . . . . . . . . yeah, but Wax is a Ferring. How I understand how unkeyed metalminds work is that you have to at least be a Ferring to access it as it merely switches what you're supposed to be able to tap into.
@@geosustento8894 . . . . . . . . . I think you just need an investiture metalmind to use unkeyed ones but it’s been a while since I’ve thought about this so could be wrong
This was a good theory. I definitely think the Breaths were a lure and he had a coppermind.
One of the very few channels where I actually turn on the bell to get notified of your uploads.
Excellent video, once again! There may not be enough Cosmere-aware nerds in the world to truly appreciate your work for this channel to explode but you deserve a ton of recognition. Well done!!!
Thank you friend! I highly appreciate it. I'm going to start branching out to other topics soon, just had to get a few Stormlight videos under my belt to cover ROW. Any other specific topics you'd like to see me cover?
Maybe the difference of the twinkling lights or all the investiture that we’ve seen on Roshar?
Also, I’m trying to rewatch the video but it’s not loading for some reason...
How about an analysis on the Unmade? Who they are and what’s happened?
Oh, the unmade one would be fun. I'm taking a break from roshar for a bit, but when I start back up this will be one of the first options on my list. Thanks for your input!
Your single best video. I am 100%
sure that you nailed the basics, and the memory coin is a great call. I disagree with some of the finer points of your unified theory, and think Hoid has even more awareness of the situation than you suggest. This explains why he thinks both versions of the meeting went exactly as planned - the second time, he's referencing the entirety of both interactions.
Can't wait to do a follow up to this once we get closer to Book 5!
Good points. I never thought to ask why Hoid was there above and beyond cracking wise. However, Adolin gives Kaladin a coin from Nalthis before he departs for Lasting Integrity. I think there is something to TOd not understanding Wit's pun of cents and nonsense. A Rosharan wouldn't get that pun. But I think Rayse would have, even if he didn't find it funny. Rayse can't have been that stupid. Lastly, I think Broken gods specifies that Odium is still bound by his former promises (technically he promised not to destroy karbranth, he didn't promise to destroy humanity except karbranth). Hoid voided whatever his earlier agreement with Rod was when he appeared in Kaladin's dream to give him soup. But he tried to remake the deal by writing back into the contract between Rod and Dalinar. I would love to get a copy of that contract, but will probably have to wait until part one of book 5's epigraphs.
All very good points. Out of curiosity, what makes you think Hoid voided a contract during kaladin's dream?
And I completely forgot about the coin from Nalthis- def one of those things I just didn't retain on the first read-through.
I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of weirdness having to do with Odium and his contract with Taravangian, but honestly can't even think of what implications there will be.
@@LoreoftheWorlds "I can't keep this bubble up much longer I'm afraid." Wit said, "He'll notice if I do-and then he'll destroy me. I have violated our agreement, which exposes me to his direct action. I'd rather not be killed, as I have seven more people I wanted to insult today" p. 920 The Dog and the Dragon. My friend pointed this out to me. I missed it too.
@@MeMySkirtandI Hmmmmmmmm, this gives a lot to think about.
Sanderson attacked by his own chicken🤣
Awesome new tracks, some excellently complex animations...not only do I give you a standing O for this one, it makes me all the more excited to see what next year brings!
I love the music used in these videos
When Hoid went to Braize s Vision on Kaladin he stated that he was letting himselve vulnerable. I would think Rayse did not know that he helped Kaladin neither Taravangian but that Taravangian trying what he could do to Hoid he destroyed t'he breaths wich were previusly untoucheable cos of the contract but as he helped Kaladin those Breaths now are manipulable by Odium and Taravangian accidentaly found this new hole on t'he contract
Ooooooohhhh, very good theory. I definitely want to revisit this when we've had a few years to go over all the details- this is the sort of thing I didn't pick up on first read.
It’s been a few years :)
I think Odium is going to be released with full power, and take over all Roshar. Kal, bridge Four, and shallan will most likely die after they speak their final ideals, but die heroically. While Dalinar does a Sazed, using the storm fathers connection to honor to become the vessel for honor, but Tod anticipates this and finally shatters the honor shard. Cultivation will probably bend to odium in order to survive, not to mention Odium plus Cultivation would be pretty OP. Imagine the galactic threat that would ensue in the third era... an Odium controlled Roshar, using corrupted fused, Thunderclasts, and whatever else at Odiums disposal, invading the other planets with shards... seems like the scale and stakes sanderson loves to set up for a conclusion to the cosmere as a whole
We know Hoid is an allomancer, he did eat one of preservation’s metals, but is he a feurchamist? I don’t think he has ever demonstrated feurchamist abilities so I question the coppermind theory. Although it could be unkeyed metal minds as demonstrated in mistborn era 2 I still think it’s unlikely.
Damn dude, this was so well done. This deserves more views
Thank you! We will get there for sure, just a matter of time :)
I definitely think he something on the coin. Thanks for this. Idk what it is exactly but your videos are really good and I enjoy them a lot. Appreciate what you do!
Upgraded to all notifications lol. Good stuff man.
Thanks! I appreciate it!!
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wow. Just finished Rhythm of War. I was not expecting that amount of complexity. I mean, seons, full discussions of Investiture, Shards, Shardworlds, revelations of Hoid, mentioning dragons, Vasher using Awakening, the main characters knowing in detail about the Cosmere, and detailed talk of Ascention. And that epilogue as well, scary and brilliant (so, Hoid "hacked" the system to use Breaths to store memories instead of Metalminds). Not to mention the full sci-fantasy Navani chapters. And to think I got excited when Nalthis and Scadrial were mentioned in the beginning. I had no idea. I'm kind of on the fence though. Book 4 Brandon? I thought less than half of this would make it into book 5, and the latter half of the series would be devoted to the Cosmere stuff. I'm still pretty surprised. (Poor Teft)
@@whyonthefall5373 It is definitely a ton to process! I honestly can't wait to see where it goes from here.
@@LoreoftheWorlds can't agree more.
(I really liked the stage play set up of the videos. It fit quite nicely with Cephandrius)
@@LoreoftheWorlds LORE of the Earth...
I see what you did there. And I like it
Great video, Kyle! Lots to think about...
Lots to think about indeed! There is always so much in these books we don't notice till like the third reread. There's gonna be so much that clicks into place when I do my reread before the next book
Great stuff sir! Glad I stumbled upon your channel. Can't wait to see what 2021 brings us.
It's gonna be a good year! Lots of interesting stuff planned. Glad to have you along for the ride
Love your content, keep it up please!
Only if you absolutely insist
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Have you gotten to the Hoid cameo yet?
I get so irritated by the Hoid stans who can't accept that someone beat him in any way.
For the record, Brandon has confirmed by now that Vargodium flat-out won that encounter, Hoid was hornswoggled.
I have heard a million people all talking about how it's a 100% sure thing that Hoid absolutely won that encounter. It's based purely on the idea that they want their boy to be perfect. It's so trite.
New sub here. Keep it coming. Love it!!!
Good work.
Thank you!
Great video!
Thank you!
Brandon has a red chicken!
Bro 90seconds for an intro is a sure fire way to piss people off
Haha, yeah I've gotten much better about that.
Were any Sandersons injured in the making if this video? (per cold open)
Don't worry, we had the proper precautions in place to make sure no Sandersons were harmed in the making of this video
Hoid isn't a Feruchemist, though.
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yeah, but Wax is a Ferring. How I understand how unkeyed metalminds work is that you have to at least be a Ferring to access it as it merely switches what you're supposed to be able to tap into.
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I think you just need an investiture metalmind to use unkeyed ones but it’s been a while since I’ve thought about this so could be wrong
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Marasi is not a feruchemist, yet she could use the unkeyed brassmind.
@@VoidLantadd oh forgot about her