These guys are the best eMTB reviewers in the business, they literally ride everything out there with a brand presence. Considering how many e-bikes are out there they must never sleep or something.
I love how fast you are pushing these out rather than making it last weeks. I'm hoping I don't regret my Turbo Levo I have an order by the end of this however haha. This Orbea looks sweet.
@@TheLoamWolf Hey guys I noticed you guys tested a large , and that guys are taller than me I am about to order a Wild , I am 175cm.. you think medium is better for me or large?? Cheers (P.s none in stock to test/sit on)
One thing I've noticed Opinions vary but the turbo levo and the trek rail both seem to be the staples in the game Plus because they both such big Companies you can't go wrong with the service, it's one thing that keeps me away from Companies like orbea, yt, canyon etc
@@Lee-ic2yn in my view, transferable warranty is pretty important. If you buy a brand new EMTB, there are all sorts of reasons why you might find yourself wanting to sell it after 6 months or a year, and I would expect bikes with transferable warranty to hold their value better - Spesh is probably number one in this category, not sure about the others, it's not something that reviewers tend to mention.
What’s not to love! Good looks, Bosch motor, big battery, reasonable price (especially in h10 sub $7k with shimano xt and fox suspension), lighter weight, fast and well made.
Was anticipating there would review of the Wild! Currently own the alloy Rise which has been rad. Wanted the Wild M10 but due to supply issues ended up ordering the H10 a week ago from my LBS set deliver first week in July. After watching this review I feel I made the right choice. Great job Drew and team!
I was particularly interested in this particular video because I bought the Orbea Wild H20 two months ago after reading/watching rave reviews / videos on RUclips, the last bike I bought after RUclips endorsement was the entry model Specialized Turbo Levo which I loved (2019) - got stolen! My concern is that the Ebike brands are soliciting paid reviews of their top, most expensive models from the popular RUclips channels, tellingly these paid reviews all come out at the same time, literally. There is a big problem with this platform - the reviews profusely embellish the super expensive bikes (some of which may be true of course), however, ordinary joe like me are much more likely to buy the entry level bikes in the hope that they ride very similar to the top models. EMTB - ordinary joe/jane - middle aged with kids, short on time, relatively new to or returned to biking, investing oversized sum to feed his/her hobby. None of the top earning channels review the entry level bikes, nor do they actually say anything negative because of the conflict of interest. Hence, it is not clear, who is this bike for? The beginner, or the pro downhill enduro ace? We hear far too many numbers - so many millimetres or angles this and that (chain stay, BB, reach etc.) and not enough about how they ride and whether these bikes are value for money? Hence, the RUclips channels are complicit in letting the industry get away with hastily thrown together lower end bikes that are seriously flawed, and still demand thousands of dollars/pounds/euros! My view after 2 month ownership is a degree of disappointment. The H20 is a monster truck, way too heavy, I did not expect that given that the top product is 20.8Kg! This is a major problem for intermediate/ early biker. The sheer weight detracts from being able to jump, turn, develop skill, and the poor fork/suspension platform can only described as dull and lacklustre. The internal battery and the ridiculous complicated headset with internal cables is just nuts. Importantly, something you did not point out - this is a front heavy bike, much more noticeable in my size small bike with big 750 battery taking up the whole length of the down tube. It is difficult to convince this bike to jump (more speed, more hop) and then control the tendency of front end dipping. Why oh why do I have to spend several thousand of hard earned cash to bring it up to speed? Should I really even try to bring the weight down - not possible. The result is that 2 months down the line, I am desperately trying to sell the bike and buy a Specialized - the market, as it is, I can't even get half price for a 2 month old bike. I do not believe the Orbea Wild 2023 Alloy models are value for money - period. It turns out, all the R&D went in to developing the carbon race winning models. There is a unhealthy collusion between industry and channels/social platforms that promote these bikes - it makes it impossible to get an honest view of products that are more expensive than the cars we drive.
We'd love to hear feedback from you and anyone else who'd like to share! While we know the public is very skeptical of media integrity, we really do pride ourselves on trying to offer the best and most honest content we possibly can and be a valuable service to our viewers who trust us with their hard-earned dollars. Thank you for sharing your opinion, we appreciate it. First up, just to get it out there, we do not receive compensation or charge any bikes brands involved in these tests, or get any sort of kickback from them. We review bikes we find interesting and ones that we get asked about the most. With that aside, yes, we realize that we often test the most expensive bikes, and honestly, it's not always our choosing as we would have a very hard time justifying spending this kind of money as well. However, brands and other outlets/ testers have found, that when you get a brands top spec bikes, it's as close as things can get to being an even apples to apples test. To your point, some brands' entry level spec is rather poor, or the value to what you get, as well as the ride quality is sub-par to others. Admittedly, not a great test because if we reviewed, for example, the entry level Levo Alloy, it would not have received anywhere near the amount of praise as the higher-spec Levo's we've tested. The alloy bike is not an award winner in our opinion, and so therefore, the many many people who own and have bought carbon or higher spec Levos after our reviews would have likely passed it up due to a poorer review due to the Alloy's weight, small 504 battery, sub-par brake/suspension spec compared to a Fezzari or Canyon eMTB for a similar price point. All this to say, we actually had a meeting just a few days ago about our 2024 eMTB Shootout. We realize that not everyone is dropped 6 figues on bikes, and want to figure out a way to represent pinnacle performance products, which has always been the goal of our tests, but also offer useful insight to buyers who are not dropping Tier 1 dollars. We are currently debating holding a separate shootout with eMTBs under a $6,500 price or possibly having a sub-category for value eebs, or making a total price cap for the entire shootout of $9,000, which we realize is still a ton of money. We look forward to your feedback! Drew
Thanks Drew for your response and I appreciate that your reviews are not paid and you are presented with bikes to review and obviously the manufacturers want to showcase their best. From my perspective, my suggestions are as follows: Entry level emtb comparison across the spectrum. Follow-up video on individual changes to the top bikes (forks/shock/tyres etc.)to improve ride with cost demonstrating most value for money I agree, price point comparison is a valid and interesting concept. A feature dedicated to 'weight' across full-fat emtbs would be interesting. I suspect the sweet spot is 20-22kg, it might differentiate weight as an important parameter for different kind of rides (heavier monster trucks for downhill), lighter for nimble/jump/bike park oriented? Lastly, it would be great if the focus is shifted on the entry/intermediate level bikes so that the industry may improve their products rather than the expectation that the consumer will spend another grand or so. Better still - sell us quality frames and let us choose! @@TheLoamWolf
Thanks for the reply and feedback! And we’re all for emtb frames. We’ve been pushing brands to do this for a while now. I suspect they’re coming soon! Appreciate your ideas and suggestions as well. Drew
Loam Wolf, huge props and respect to you guys for the reviews of all the bikes. Hugely useful for me considering my next bike. By the looks and sounds of it the Wild is gonna take some beating. You guys found it hard to say anything bad about it! Really looking forward to the final round up. Keep up the great work and high quality of the videos 👌
nice bike, but non-removable battery easily disqualifies it for me and a lot of my mates... :( meanwhile Levo FTW ! also for full integration (controls, LCD/LED and Ant+ so you can see data on your Garmin)
You guys seem pretty hot on this bike. Last year it was the Gen 3 Turbo Levo. How would you compare the 2? I am in the market for a new bike and these are both high on my list.
Could you also try the non carbon version and if you did, how do they compare ? All the 2023 reviews are about the M-LTD but lots of us can't afford it... Same geometry but that doesn't always imply the same qualities on the track...
@@TheLoamWolf Hey thanks I was expecting an anwser like this, I should probably ask Orbea about. I know that here is the block lock or whatever company's call them...headset made by Acros actually. Although I would argue that the block locks job is to stop the fork uppers not to hit the frame, but at the same time when it does it's job, because the handlebars hit the ground all the force transfers onto the 2 stem bolts that are the only thing that prevents the stem from rotating left or right. Probably every one has had the case when crashing and the handlebars were at 90°...that's because the stem has rotated...the block lock does not prevent the stem from rotating...if I understand the concept of it...unless Orbea has something different which I don't think...
Would Robert prefer the Size Large or XL on this bike? I'm ready to purchase this bike, but little confused about the sizing being that I always fall between a L and XL and his sizing recommendations seem to be spot on for me as we are about the same size. Thanks and you guys are awesome!
Same boat for me. I am 186 tall, so was going to ask the same question. Orbea sizing puts me on the "nimble" side of large and "fast" side of XL. Thanks to LoamWolf for the response.
I really like your work and tests! Could you mention how compare new Wild to the 2020/21 Trek Rail (past winner)? I just ordered the 2021/22 carbon version. I hope I didn't make a big mistake!
Hey Greg, the pre-updated geometry Rail? We really like that bike, it won awards and is a ton of fun. However like anything, tech, features, competition and capabilities improve, so the new Wild is certainly a more exciting, capable and aggressive bike! BUT, does that mean you won't still have a great time on your new Rail? Absolutely not! There will always be newer and better things coming out, so long as you're having fun and enjoying your rides, then that's what matters! We've had many a great memory and ride aboard Trek Rails over the years.
Love your reviews but it would be awesome to also hear your perspective on motor performance on all ebikes you review. This would be especially helpful for riders like me who don't have an ebike but in the market looking for one. Thank you for your content!
Thanks for the great videos guys. The Wild (probably an H10) is currently #1 on my list, if I decide to get an eMTB, and if I decide to get an enduro bike. I live in the Seattle area, and while I used to ride jumps and drops, age (53) and lower back issues have me riding a bit more mellow. I'm pondering the enduro-vs-trail eMTB route. I'll probably still go with the Wild though because I'm very, very happy with the Bosch CX Smart system in another (not mountain) bike I own. I suspect I'd still be happier on an enduro bike even if I'm not riding as hard as I used to. But I'd love to hear some opinions on this (omg, I asked for opinions in RUclips comments, here we go )
Got the new m-Team and couldn’t agree more. Absolutely everything about this bike is amazing, except the internal headset cable routing. This forces you to give up on doing your own headset service as it almost impossible by your own 😂🤦♂️
While it certainly makes headset servicing a little trickier, the Orbea system is fairly well sealed and they’ve selected a “premium” bearing that should last considerably longer than standard headset bearings, increasing the service intervals
Gotta say, if I’m buying a $10,000 ebike I’m going take it to my favorite shop every year, pay for a VIP full bearing/headset/bb service. While I wait, I’ll peruse the shops newer items and consumables, while sipping an Oban single malt. Membership has its privileges.
It's not for a lack of trying, so we can't really say why. We reach out to them several times for the last couple of opportunities, so their lack of attendance is not related us not wanting their bikes included.
👍 great review, how does it jump ? I mean i ride an acoustic bike i like to switch for an ebike and i have doubt should i go for a ebike light or for this wild with a 650 batterie. I just don't want to need more speed to jump...
Full power eBikes do jump differently, and it would be worth trying one before you buy if there’s any doubt in your head. But the Wild certainly jumps well as full power eMTBs go.
@@TheLoamWolf Sorry, it is at 2:10, I wrote the comment after watching video of another bike where the weight of the bike was under the spec sheet, not together with the geometry.
big battery and no pedals. We typically don't weigh our bikes with pedals because different pedal sets have different weights (flats vs clipless / Saints vs XTRs / etc). Our XTR clipless pedals typically add 1 pound to the overall bike weight.
No mention of the fact that the battery isn’t removable (at least not without dropping the motor). I know why they did it, but it still makes it a no go for me. On a big 8000ft+ altitude day, you are going to need to swap the battery. Lovely looking bike though
Big structural benefits to be had by making it enclosed. Definitely a slight loss of practicality for riders looking for true all day epic rides, but we’re rarely afforded the time to spend more than the time to drain one battery, so we enjoy the performance benefits.
Downsides: 1) Non removable battery for those who switch batteries at the bike park 2) Orbea customer support or warranty at the United States is not on par with Specialized, Trek, Santa Cruz or Transition. A local shop with 4 stores in my state has dropped Orbea because of this reason. They’re hard to work with.
I call BS. I had questions during the ordering and waiting for my bike. Orbea CS AND the factory both responded promptly. They made a spec change for me while it was being built. Top notch CS! Don’t believe everything you hear.
A high spec bike shouldnt cost more than 5000 dollars full stop. I cant believe that dude thibks this is good value. I can get a ktm electric motor bike for less.
Cool. I look forward to the bike company you start that will be selling high spec eMTBs for under $5000. Go ahead and let us all know once you got that all worked out.
These guys are the best eMTB reviewers in the business, they literally ride everything out there with a brand presence. Considering how many e-bikes are out there they must never sleep or something.
Thank you Kexin, we do our best! And sleep sometimes. Haha
I love how fast you are pushing these out rather than making it last weeks. I'm hoping I don't regret my Turbo Levo I have an order by the end of this however haha. This Orbea looks sweet.
The Levo is still a very sweet bike and you will have great time on it!
@@TheLoamWolf
Hey guys
I noticed you guys tested a large , and that guys are taller than me
I am about to order a Wild , I am 175cm.. you think medium is better for me or large??
Cheers
(P.s none in stock to test/sit on)
You will not regret the Levo, had mine for a couple of months and it is a great bike.
One thing I've noticed
Opinions vary but the turbo levo and the trek rail both seem to be the staples in the game
Plus because they both such big Companies you can't go wrong with the service, it's one thing that keeps me away from Companies like orbea, yt, canyon etc
@@Lee-ic2yn in my view, transferable warranty is pretty important. If you buy a brand new EMTB, there are all sorts of reasons why you might find yourself wanting to sell it after 6 months or a year, and I would expect bikes with transferable warranty to hold their value better - Spesh is probably number one in this category, not sure about the others, it's not something that reviewers tend to mention.
This was one of the main ones I was looking forward to hearing about
What’s not to love! Good looks, Bosch motor, big battery, reasonable price (especially in h10 sub $7k with shimano xt and fox suspension), lighter weight, fast and well made.
It’s a killer bike for sure
Was anticipating there would review of the Wild! Currently own the alloy Rise which has been rad. Wanted the Wild M10 but due to supply issues ended up ordering the H10 a week ago from my LBS set deliver first week in July. After watching this review I feel I made the right choice. Great job Drew and team!
Thanks very much!! And congrats on your new bike.
H10 is the best value for pretty much any ebike.
I was particularly interested in this particular video because I bought the Orbea Wild H20 two months ago after reading/watching rave reviews / videos on RUclips, the last bike I bought after RUclips endorsement was the entry model Specialized Turbo Levo which I loved (2019) - got stolen!
My concern is that the Ebike brands are soliciting paid reviews of their top, most expensive models from the popular RUclips channels, tellingly these paid reviews all come out at the same time, literally. There is a big problem with this platform - the reviews profusely embellish the super expensive bikes (some of which may be true of course), however, ordinary joe like me are much more likely to buy the entry level bikes in the hope that they ride very similar to the top models. EMTB - ordinary joe/jane - middle aged with kids, short on time, relatively new to or returned to biking, investing oversized sum to feed his/her hobby.
None of the top earning channels review the entry level bikes, nor do they actually say anything negative because of the conflict of interest. Hence, it is not clear, who is this bike for? The beginner, or the pro downhill enduro ace? We hear far too many numbers - so many millimetres or angles this and that (chain stay, BB, reach etc.) and not enough about how they ride and whether these bikes are value for money? Hence, the RUclips channels are complicit in letting the industry get away with hastily thrown together lower end bikes that are seriously flawed, and still demand thousands of dollars/pounds/euros!
My view after 2 month ownership is a degree of disappointment. The H20 is a monster truck, way too heavy, I did not expect that given that the top product is 20.8Kg! This is a major problem for intermediate/ early biker. The sheer weight detracts from being able to jump, turn, develop skill, and the poor fork/suspension platform can only described as dull and lacklustre. The internal battery and the ridiculous complicated headset with internal cables is just nuts. Importantly, something you did not point out - this is a front heavy bike, much more noticeable in my size small bike with big 750 battery taking up the whole length of the down tube. It is difficult to convince this bike to jump (more speed, more hop) and then control the tendency of front end dipping. Why oh why do I have to spend several thousand of hard earned cash to bring it up to speed? Should I really even try to bring the weight down - not possible.
The result is that 2 months down the line, I am desperately trying to sell the bike and buy a Specialized - the market, as it is, I can't even get half price for a 2 month old bike.
I do not believe the Orbea Wild 2023 Alloy models are value for money - period. It turns out, all the R&D went in to developing the carbon race winning models. There is a unhealthy collusion between industry and channels/social platforms that promote these bikes - it makes it impossible to get an honest view of products that are more expensive than the cars we drive.
We'd love to hear feedback from you and anyone else who'd like to share! While we know the public is very skeptical of media integrity, we really do pride ourselves on trying to offer the best and most honest content we possibly can and be a valuable service to our viewers who trust us with their hard-earned dollars.
Thank you for sharing your opinion, we appreciate it. First up, just to get it out there, we do not receive compensation or charge any bikes brands involved in these tests, or get any sort of kickback from them. We review bikes we find interesting and ones that we get asked about the most.
With that aside, yes, we realize that we often test the most expensive bikes, and honestly, it's not always our choosing as we would have a very hard time justifying spending this kind of money as well. However, brands and other outlets/ testers have found, that when you get a brands top spec bikes, it's as close as things can get to being an even apples to apples test. To your point, some brands' entry level spec is rather poor, or the value to what you get, as well as the ride quality is sub-par to others. Admittedly, not a great test because if we reviewed, for example, the entry level Levo Alloy, it would not have received anywhere near the amount of praise as the higher-spec Levo's we've tested. The alloy bike is not an award winner in our opinion, and so therefore, the many many people who own and have bought carbon or higher spec Levos after our reviews would have likely passed it up due to a poorer review due to the Alloy's weight, small 504 battery, sub-par brake/suspension spec compared to a Fezzari or Canyon eMTB for a similar price point.
All this to say, we actually had a meeting just a few days ago about our 2024 eMTB Shootout. We realize that not everyone is dropped 6 figues on bikes, and want to figure out a way to represent pinnacle performance products, which has always been the goal of our tests, but also offer useful insight to buyers who are not dropping Tier 1 dollars.
We are currently debating holding a separate shootout with eMTBs under a $6,500 price or possibly having a sub-category for value eebs, or making a total price cap for the entire shootout of $9,000, which we realize is still a ton of money.
We look forward to your feedback!
Drew
Thanks Drew for your response and I appreciate that your reviews are not paid and you are presented with bikes to review and obviously the manufacturers want to showcase their best.
From my perspective, my suggestions are as follows:
Entry level emtb comparison across the spectrum. Follow-up video on individual changes to the top bikes (forks/shock/tyres etc.)to improve ride with cost demonstrating most value for money
I agree, price point comparison is a valid and interesting concept.
A feature dedicated to 'weight' across full-fat emtbs would be interesting. I suspect the sweet spot is 20-22kg, it might differentiate weight as an important parameter for different kind of rides (heavier monster trucks for downhill), lighter for nimble/jump/bike park oriented?
Lastly, it would be great if the focus is shifted on the entry/intermediate level bikes so that the industry may improve their products rather than the expectation that the consumer will spend another grand or so. Better still - sell us quality frames and let us choose!
@@TheLoamWolf
Thanks for the reply and feedback! And we’re all for emtb frames. We’ve been pushing brands to do this for a while now. I suspect they’re coming soon!
Appreciate your ideas and suggestions as well.
Drew
This one and the SC Bullit are my favorite ebikes. Currently on a YT Decoy Shred and also own an Orbea Rise but looking forward to try this baby out
It’s worth testing for sure.
Loam Wolf, huge props and respect to you guys for the reviews of all the bikes. Hugely useful for me considering my next bike. By the looks and sounds of it the Wild is gonna take some beating. You guys found it hard to say anything bad about it! Really looking forward to the final round up.
Keep up the great work and high quality of the videos 👌
Thank you very much! Appreciate the kind words.
your crew is killing it with the selection of bikes - bravo, gentlemen.
Thanks you so much Joe! We put a lot of effort into this series.
Thanks for taking your Helmets off for the review this year!
nice bike, but non-removable battery easily disqualifies it for me and a lot of my mates... :(
meanwhile Levo FTW ! also for full integration (controls, LCD/LED and Ant+ so you can see data on your Garmin)
Orbea Wild muy bueno amigos 😁
Nice Machiny, thanks guys !
Thanks for watching.
100% dialed rig. What exact Mary- Betty schwalbe tire setup were you running?
Soft compound, Super Gravity Casing, 2.4” width.
If you guys had the choice to pick this Orbea or an sl ebike what would your choice be?
I want this bike. I currently ride a Levo, and love that one too, but man, this one looks sexy. 🎉
You guys seem pretty hot on this bike. Last year it was the Gen 3 Turbo Levo. How would you compare the 2? I am in the market for a new bike and these are both high on my list.
Would love to know this too.
Could you also try the non carbon version and if you did, how do they compare ? All the 2023 reviews are about the M-LTD but lots of us can't afford it... Same geometry but that doesn't always imply the same qualities on the track...
Regarding the cables going on the left/right past the stem, in case of a crash/stem rotating, wouldn't the stem crimp/cut the cables?
There’s a rotation stopper in the headset to prevent damage this way
@@TheLoamWolf Hey thanks I was expecting an anwser like this, I should probably ask Orbea about.
I know that here is the block lock or whatever company's call them...headset made by Acros actually. Although I would argue that the block locks job is to stop the fork uppers not to hit the frame, but at the same time when it does it's job, because the handlebars hit the ground all the force transfers onto the 2 stem bolts that are the only thing that prevents the stem from rotating left or right. Probably every one has had the case when crashing and the handlebars were at 90°...that's because the stem has rotated...the block lock does not prevent the stem from rotating...if I understand the concept of it...unless Orbea has something different which I don't think...
Got to take the crown this year? Been waiting for this review
🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ gotta stay tuned. Ha ha.
Like always a nice review. How do you compare the wild w/ a kenevo SL going down hill? Thanks. Could you guys review the Canyon torque on?
Would Robert prefer the Size Large or XL on this bike? I'm ready to purchase this bike, but little confused about the sizing being that I always fall between a L and XL and his sizing recommendations seem to be spot on for me as we are about the same size. Thanks and you guys are awesome!
Robert says “Large 100%”. Hope that helps and enjoy your new bike!!
@@TheLoamWolf Perfect, I owe you guys some beers someday for all the awesome recommendations! 🍻
Same boat for me. I am 186 tall, so was going to ask the same question. Orbea sizing puts me on the "nimble" side of large and "fast" side of XL. Thanks to LoamWolf for the response.
I am between this bike, fezzari timp peak or commencal meta power sx Bosch 2023. Any opinions? Thanks
What is everyone’s number one choice when it come to an E-bike? I’m in the market to buy one
I would you compare this with the scott ransom eride 920?
I really like your work and tests!
Could you mention how compare new Wild to the 2020/21 Trek Rail (past winner)?
I just ordered the 2021/22 carbon version. I hope I didn't make a big mistake!
Hey Greg, the pre-updated geometry Rail? We really like that bike, it won awards and is a ton of fun. However like anything, tech, features, competition and capabilities improve, so the new Wild is certainly a more exciting, capable and aggressive bike! BUT, does that mean you won't still have a great time on your new Rail? Absolutely not! There will always be newer and better things coming out, so long as you're having fun and enjoying your rides, then that's what matters! We've had many a great memory and ride aboard Trek Rails over the years.
@@TheLoamWolf thank you very much!
Love your reviews but it would be awesome to also hear your perspective on motor performance on all ebikes you review. This would be especially helpful for riders like me who don't have an ebike but in the market looking for one. Thank you for your content!
Thanks for the feedback, will try to include in the future!
If you had to choose between the orbea or the fezarri, which would you choose
You’ll have to wait for the finale video for that, dropping Friday 🤘🏼
Love the clean handlebar look. Can the Bosch system pair with Garmin like levo or shimano or yamaha ?
No. It’s lame!!
Thanks for the great videos guys. The Wild (probably an H10) is currently #1 on my list, if I decide to get an eMTB, and if I decide to get an enduro bike. I live in the Seattle area, and while I used to ride jumps and drops, age (53) and lower back issues have me riding a bit more mellow. I'm pondering the enduro-vs-trail eMTB route. I'll probably still go with the Wild though because I'm very, very happy with the Bosch CX Smart system in another (not mountain) bike I own. I suspect I'd still be happier on an enduro bike even if I'm not riding as hard as I used to. But I'd love to hear some opinions on this (omg, I asked for opinions in RUclips comments, here we go )
Got the new m-Team and couldn’t agree more. Absolutely everything about this bike is amazing, except the internal headset cable routing. This forces you to give up on doing your own headset service as it almost impossible by your own 😂🤦♂️
While it certainly makes headset servicing a little trickier, the Orbea system is fairly well sealed and they’ve selected a “premium” bearing that should last considerably longer than standard headset bearings, increasing the service intervals
Gotta say, if I’m buying a $10,000 ebike I’m going take it to my favorite shop every year, pay for a VIP full bearing/headset/bb service. While I wait, I’ll peruse the shops newer items and consumables, while sipping an Oban single malt. Membership has its privileges.
Great job guys, loving the reviews!
How do you think it compares to the Fezzari?
Thank you!
You’ll have to stay tuned for the round table dropping next Friday for that 😉
I need to take the battery out for Bike park action!
Why no Transitions???
It's not for a lack of trying, so we can't really say why. We reach out to them several times for the last couple of opportunities, so their lack of attendance is not related us not wanting their bikes included.
👍 great review, how does it jump ?
I mean i ride an acoustic bike i like to switch for an ebike and i have doubt should i go for a ebike light or for this wild with a 650 batterie. I just don't want to need more speed to jump...
I ride a ‘23 Wild with the 625. Bike loves to jump.
Full power eBikes do jump differently, and it would be worth trying one before you buy if there’s any doubt in your head. But the Wild certainly jumps well as full power eMTBs go.
You haven't mentioned how much does it weight.
Our build with the Schwalbe control tires was 52lbs
@@TheLoamWolf Sorry, it is at 2:10, I wrote the comment after watching video of another bike where the weight of the bike was under the spec sheet, not together with the geometry.
@@TheLoamWolf
Hey guys, that's ready ride with peddles etc???
@@TheLoamWolf
Is that with the big battery
And peddles??
Cheers
big battery and no pedals. We typically don't weigh our bikes with pedals because different pedal sets have different weights (flats vs clipless / Saints vs XTRs / etc). Our XTR clipless pedals typically add 1 pound to the overall bike weight.
How does the 170 fork affect the geo? Would you go 170 or 160 on this?
We have ridden both and the changes are not too severe. We’d likely go 170 if we were speccing our own.
What is with those frogs??
They’re just adding their insight.
No mention of the fact that the battery isn’t removable (at least not without dropping the motor). I know why they did it, but it still makes it a no go for me. On a big 8000ft+ altitude day, you are going to need to swap the battery.
Lovely looking bike though
Big structural benefits to be had by making it enclosed. Definitely a slight loss of practicality for riders looking for true all day epic rides, but we’re rarely afforded the time to spend more than the time to drain one battery, so we enjoy the performance benefits.
I'm from Portugal, rumors run fast... There will be a range extender for this baby... 500w/h... 1250w/h will it be enough? 😊
Just wish this had the Shimano XT di2 on it like the new Rise but probably not going to happen with the Bosch motor...
Haven’t really desired an ebike till now.
We were pretty sold when we started riding them!
So...great value for money, no negatives. Where is my kidney. Oh wait I sold it already 😅
1sttttttt...........
Damn you beat me to it
Ha ha that’s 2 now.
@@TheLoamWolf yeah I won’t let it happen again lol 😂 but great video again
The frogggsss!!! So awesome hearing them they had to share there opinion lol
@@nickjones5728 welcome to the real world where every has their own..
Downsides:
1) Non removable battery for those who switch batteries at the bike park
2) Orbea customer support or warranty at the United States is not on par with Specialized, Trek, Santa Cruz or Transition. A local shop with 4 stores in my state has dropped Orbea because of this reason. They’re hard to work with.
I call BS. I had questions during the ordering and waiting for my bike. Orbea CS AND the factory both responded promptly. They made a spec change for me while it was being built. Top notch CS! Don’t believe everything you hear.
ribbit, ribbit, ribbit, ribbit, orbea, ribbit, ribbit, wild, ribbit, ribbit, emtb, ribbit, orbea ribbit,
Just one downside unremovable battery
Pros and cons to it. We don’t mind it for the improved frame performance
Unsubbed, thanks
When E-Bike riders talk about "racing" 😂
Do you laugh when motorcycle riders talk racing? Vapid comment.
A high spec bike shouldnt cost more than 5000 dollars full stop. I cant believe that dude thibks this is good value. I can get a ktm electric motor bike for less.
Cool. I look forward to the bike company you start that will be selling high spec eMTBs for under $5000. Go ahead and let us all know once you got that all worked out.