Battery CAN be replaced in around 20 mins by dropping the motor (Orbea mechanics changed mine real quick from 750 to 625) - 20.8KG, Full 29er, 63.5 Head Angle, 170mm Fork, 160mm Rear, Bosch Race Motor. We can have LIGHT and FULL POWER!!
La zona de la costa es una ruta que une por la costa HONDARRIBIA con PASAI SAN PEDRO provincia de GIPUZKOA , el resto del video está gravado en LESAKA provincia de NAGARROA , a apenas 20 km. de Hondarribia
Woah, with a burly build my Rise was the same weight ( 20.50kg), carbon frame with the 360W battery. Full props to Orbea for making this bike so light with so much battery and power!
I can't decide between a rise and a wild 🤔 was worried the wild would feel too disconnected and boring on more traditional trail riding, but watching this video makes me think maybe the bike is just as agile and fun and the main difference would be the rise has more gentle less obvious assistance and the wild blasts off
@@ErikinCA Felt the same way, and I hike a bike on some of the steep and nasty stuff I find but I think I ride really rough trails and should probably get a Wild to add to the stable instread of another Rise
Awesome video Rob! I’ve caught a few of your vids recently and they are all really good. Re the bike- Lately I’ve been turned off of steep seat angles for any sort of pedaling while standing. Crazy technical climbs, for instance. The steeper angle has your center of mass quite high up, and I find the bike will get hung up much more easily on obstacles. With the “e”, I don’t mind more neutral 75-76 degree seat angles on even the steepest access roads (25% grades). Are you quite tall? I’m 174cm, so riding size medium bikes.
Hey Jeff - great to hear from you! Been watching your content for a long time! Yes, I'm 6"3 - so prefer steeper seat angles, so more needed perhaps compared to a medium frame, as these long droppers on bikes with slack seat tube almost put me over the back wheel!
@@RobRidesEMTB while not even approaching 1% of Jeff's riding style, but at 181 cm I feel the same as you. I used to prefer mullets or 27.5 partly for that reason of not sitting on the back wheels, until the steeper seat angle 29'ers appeared. Those feel much better when pedaling while sitting. But it's also true the center of mass moved up as well, so there is some compromise, riding out of seat earlier and more than before :).
@@RobRidesEMTB hi Rob, I am also 6ft 3 but 103kg (working on lowering that but natyrally big so can only hope to get to 98kg lowest). I've noticed despite my better skill than some friends, I just cant corner like they do, it's physics, but on burly straighter sections I gain back time lost in corners. I think you are 20kh or so lighter than me so you'll corner much better. I ride mostly technical enduro trails, natural forest types and wondering how, the bike handles on the limit (where traction is being lost) and changing direction. I know there's many variables: terrain, skill, tyres, tyre pressure, suspension tune, conditions but would love to hear more about slow speed handling on steep and twisties and railing all sorts of corners, flat, bermed, negative camber
@@FraGGile22 yup, a bit pricey hahaha. Positive side is that Orbea offers a wide range of models. But honestly despite being this impressive the new Wild is not going to be my next Ebike.
Hey Rob brilliant video once again! A question were you comfortable on the xl ? I'm just over 6,1 and don't like to big of a bike, just wondering whatd your thoughts thanks
You are the only reviewer I have seen mentioning overruns. This is one specification that makes a huge difference and most reviewers do not talk about it. Thank you. Is there a way I can find out these specs compared between different bikes/motors. What is the overrun on the non “Race” CX motor?
Wow ......... great review and a bike that is well sorted out but ......... the video quality is stunning . In a sea of poor quality POV MTB RUclips vlogs RR EMTB videos are always such a joy to watch. The bike reviewing gets better , informative and well thought out content that makes sense to us the viewer. I recently made my choice of bike to purchase based on some of your previous bike reviews , I spent a lot of money on a bike I had never ridden only looked at on a shop floor. My first ride out on it confirmed exactly everything you had explained in your review on it previously. The Spanish really are turning some great bikes out right now.
When you live in the area where I live, northern part of Norway, being able to take the battery indoors during the winter is a big advantage. But i agree it is a beautiful bike
Sweet🤙 Good 4 me. But don't EWS pros have spare batteries for swapping between stages...I guess it's the whole spare bike they'll have ready instead? Am I missing this point?
I watched a video of the pros racing them they were running 2 batteries and it was taking them 12 mins to swap inbetween though they have to drop the motor.
Great job Rob! Looks like a great bike. Beautiful places to ride there in Basque country! Seems they have found a way to get performance and lighter weight in the same package...hope this sparks a trend!
They're great! I ride mostly bike parks, but wanted to get out more in the colder months. There's a few new jump lines near me, and I'd get maybe 3-4 runs in before getting tired with my regular bike. The ebike I can get in 10 in the same time. Plus I'm riding longer and going a lot more frequently, I'm actually getting in better shape than I would had I not gotten one. BTW if/when you get one, don't settle for anything less than a Bosch battery. So much fun, good luck ✌️
Do you reckon the bike will run good as a mullet setup Rob? Got one on order it’s due end of January was going to try my rear wheel out my enduro bike see how it feels
Hi Rob loving the channel. I’ve just brought an Orbea wild and have been watching your videos with interest. Could I ask one question that nobody has asked on any of the videos I have watched. You say the remote is wireless and Bluetooth. So I’m guessing it has a battery in it to work. My question is. How do you recharge / change the battery. And how long will it last (potentially) between charges / batteries ? Thanks Keep up the good work 👍🏻🤙🏼👊🏻⚡️
I can't wait to see how light they could make the next-gen Rise! Current-gen is just over 16 kg but that's using a full-weight Shimano motor; new frame and something like a TQ motor could maybe bring it down close to 14 kg? That would be a dream.
I’ve got a COMMENCAL meta power 27.5 2018. It’s a heavy beast and I’ve been pinning for a light bike but this bike and the ibis is starting to show that i don’t necessarily buy an underpowered untested motor to get some weight off and still be able to hold its own in where I ride.
I have a 2021 aluminium H25 FS Wild and it's really heavy. It's been extremely reliable, and I've done 3,000 off road miles. The 625 Whr battery is sufficient, and the Gen 4 CX is plenty powerful. As I weigh 98KG, taking 4 KG off the weight is irrelevant. I ride with 2KG of water, another 1KG of tools and spares. I was a bit concerned that I'd not had to change any suspension bushes, service the forks or rear shock in that mileage. So, I asked my LBS to give it a once over before the warranty runs out in January 2023. No faults found. I have replaced cassettes, chains, brake pads, discs and both the front and rear wheels as the bike came with unsealed Shimano hubs. I now have Hope Fortus rims with Pro 4 hubs, which have been great so far. If I was to buy a new bike, I'd definitely want the fixed in-built battery as I rarely remove mine. I don't have a problem with the Bosch Purion display as it's an old familiar friend. My first Cube ebike had one and couldn't fault it then in 2017.
Rob, is rattle better with Race motor, how quiet is new Wild? If you can compare old Wild vs new, what would be main difference (except geo and weight)? Thanks.
Hi Rob, thanks for all the amazing and detailed videos. Which bike do you prefer between your Canton Strive On and your Orbea Wild? Looking to buy my first e-bike and I’m really torn between these two awesome bikes! Thanks in advance. Steve
Amazing video, Rob! Thanks for this incredible review! 👍 🙋♂Question: You mentioned you wished there was an XXL size... May I ask how tall you are? I'm 6.2ft, and since I appreciate maneuverability/agility over stability/velocity, I'm more inclined to go for the L size. What are your thoughts? I've seen other videos where they say this Orbea Wild could feel bigger when riding due to the great distance between the two axles. Thank you!
Great to see something that can be customised to your liking , and that there not using a one piece stem and bar like other manufactures, would definitely consider this as a replaced for my current eMTB.
They're amazing... Lightweight, Bosch battery, customizable with a ton of build/color options, great display and a beautiful aesthetic. Plus it's reasonably priced compared to similar builds. I don't have much to compare it too, but every review I've seen, comment I've read and people I've spoken to who have one, all have nothing but great things to say about it.
Beauitiful video! You are a master in creating this kind of content. Really! One question: What size were you testing in the video? XL? I am having problems to decide what size I should choose. I am about your body size, riding an XL Turbo Levo from 2020 right now, and comparing the Geo I would say I should go with the XL. An S5 TL fits also well for me. You mentioned the Wild is "compact" in its dimensions. And therefore I would assume that L would be too small as I prefer the big boys. (S5 and XL for Turbo Levo) instead of L and S4. Thanks in advance for a short info on that!!
Love that galactic rainbow paint. That's the colour for me. Iv asked orbea what the ews E team are going to do about only having one battery for racing. I really want the new wild, but need more range for training and racing.
probably the best presentation video of the orbea wild. i am impressed by your quality. Now I'm even more excited about my new Wild M team and can't wait any longer. I hope there will be more videos from the new wild +subscribed+
I’m 6’4” and have long legs/arms and a short torso. You mentioned that an XXL would be ideal for tall guys. Do you think this may feel a little too small for me?
I got all excited thinking i`m gonna upgrade my Wild FS to this. Shame the battery is not removable as mine is kept in the shed and the Mrs would flip if i brought it in the kitchen to keep warm.
Wow! great review Rob....both the bike and the location! Looks like the MY23 ebikes are upping the ante BIG time what with the Pole Voima and now the Orbea Wild FS and I hear Scott have something to get excited about just around the corner too! It's great to see Bosch investing in the racing side of the sport so will be interesting to see if other motor manufacturer's bring a race spec motor to market, along with race spec batteries and it is an exciting time to be an emtb enthusiast... who knows where we go from here? Racing uphill on downhill tracks? I for one would LOVE to see that!
I'm trying to decide between this 2023 Orbea Wild, the Pole Voima, and the Cannondale Moterra Neo (probably the Moterra Neo Carbon LT 2 or the Moterra Neo Carbon 1). I have a Pivot Switchblade already, and I'm looking for a bike that can handle the uphills and daily riding well, while also giving me extra travel (160+) for the bike park. I'm pretty set on a Bosch motor, but would consider a Brose. I definitely want to keep it under $10,000 USD. What you do you think? I'm hoping for a response from Rob, but welcome all comments. Thanks!
Hey Rob, any thoughts on how the new Wild rides compared to the Gen 3 Turbo Levo? I've had an S-Works Turbo Levo for a year and am intrigued by the lower weight and full-29er aspect of the Wild. Any comments will me decide if I should swap my TL for the Wild, and would be much appreciated. Thanks much. 🙂
you should, for sure. It will transform you from a mediocre, moving obstacle on the trail, into top 10 ews/dh/whatever rider. The last year model bike was what held you down. 🙄🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Nice bike 👍 but crazy light is a bit of an overstatement I think...only the 12K€ dentist race kashima 625wh ebike model falls into that category. Go down to a more reasonably priced bike...add 0,2kg for the normal motor, add 0,2kg for a burlier rear tire(exo+ on the rear is not really ebike territory if u ride seriously), 0,1kg for the not golden suspension, add 0,8kg for the 750Wh battery(which most will buy-only a small percentage of ebikers races) and finally no bike is complete without pedals so add 0,4kg(don't know why would someone state a bike weight without pedals...). Do the math and u end up with approximately 22,6kg and I didn't even venture into the heavier drivetrain/brake components specs....so in my opinion this is a pretty normal weight for a carbon ebike...would actually expect it to be less with the non removable battery. Also I wish more reviews/reviews would focus on the people's bikes and not the dentist bikes...but I guess Brands throw out their best and probably also point in the direction the releases/reviews should point...
Hey @Rob was the version you tested and weighed the one with 750W/h battery? Just wondering if the 20.8Kg are already including the bigger battery or the smaller one?
Great review. I'm in the market to move on from my Trek Rail, and this bike looks pretty sweet. I'm a bit confused about the comparison to a "trail bike" though. When I'm at the top of a trail I want my bike to perform with the speed and poise of a long travel gravity oriented enduro bike, rather than a shorter travel all-around trail bike. Do the trail bike comments mean that it is not a full on descender? Or just that it is more nimble than most of the other full power emtb's that are heavier and some of which have a sort of "monster truck" mentality on the descents?
Most races / E-EWS I've seen people ride require 2 batteries and a swap at the half way point. What if the battery becomes damaged? Am I able to take the bike on a plane? Makes charging the thing more difficult too Seems ludicrous to not have a removable battery. Any other reasoned I've missed?
The mechanics can change them in about 20 minutes (they swapped a 625 into mine super quick!). The motor requires dropping, but they put it in a stand and did it in no time. So races wont be an issue.
Awesome looking bike..👌 Pity there's no frameset only option, but then nobody is offering that. Can't understand why...🤷 I've got my Rail upgraded with everything I want and when I'm ready I just want to buy a frame,motor and battery option, when someone offers it, and transfer the parts ...😕
Wow, what a bike! I'm wondering where they saved the ~2kg compared to the other Bosch 625wh bikes? Motor seems to only contribute a small part to that and fox / Shimano parts haven't changed. Is it purely the frame?
@@joeernst266 For some reason the removable batteries are heavy. My 2018 Commencal Meta Power has an external 500Wh battery which is 2,600kg but my friend’s 25% bigger capacity 625Wh battery is 3,900kg and in addition the frame is burlier because of the big opening + the battery door and the closing mechanism. While I still prefer the external battery I understand why Orbea went with this solution.
@@tamasvarga67 interesting that batteries can be made so much lighter. Maybe they need less safety housing around themselves if they are considered built in. I'm with you though on the removable ones. I would love the weight savings, but I might travel and a removable battery is much more flexible for that. I'm hunting down a Nukeproof Megawatt these days :-)
hello and thank you for your video, could you tell me the model presented in your video because there are many models of Orbea Wild (h10-h20-h30-m10-m20 etc) I am looking for a model of 21kg or 22kg with minimum 500wh and between 70nm and 85nm thank you for your feedback in advance!!
@rob, do you have any intell, how much the alu version Will be heavier, it looks like An awesome packed bike. The topend alu looks decent for the price, Hopefully around 23kg
maybe not everyone needs removable battery but for me this should be possible and made as easy as possible.. Like for example someone may be keeping his bikes in shed which is not heated in winter, so its good to remove battery and take it home..
I think it will be interesting to see the bike travel around the world, because it will be one of the only emtb that you can't take on the plane, because you can't take the battery out.
Rob mentioned in his comment above that it can be done if you drop the motor which doesn't sound like it is that difficult to do. Probably around half an hour and if you are traveling far that is well worth it.
I have a 2021 Turbo Levo and was considering getting the 2022 version. I just can’t get over the mullet set up though. I like my full 29er Levo. In terms of power and handling, how would you say this bike and it’s motor compares to the turbo levos power…..specifically the motor performance. Thanks so much for making these videos. Great content!
Your Levo has had that remote and display for years, power wise your Levo is still hard to beat. turnaround for warranty is awesome with Specialized, the same day regardless of your problem if you use Berkshire turbo. the guys there have your bike turned around while you wait. your motor is quiet when bombing downhill the Bosh motor rattles like a B@$tard. I hope this helps.
Hello! Thanks for your message mate! With the 750Wh battery there is more than enough capacity for really long rides, especially in the lower assistance modes. When opting for the BOSCH system it is not possible to develop custom battery solutions. Cheers!
@@orbea thanks for the explanation. Congrats on the nice work, and it looks like a lot of viewpoints were considered before choosing the options. I'd like to keep the weight low, and probably even the smaller battery would be more than enough. Around 20 kg, the bike should pedal pretty fine even with the motor switched off, so not much risk.
really beautiful! I have to say, the new Bosch system looks much better than the old one. The old has so many cables going and it is easy to pull one out.
Its not only the cables y need to see eurything why y dont write about that the new model the battery can not be removed and what happent when the battery life end how can y replace it and the old wilf fs it is removable and can be added an extra battery .also the new its 2,000 euro more .
Just looked them up as well and the shops only show the weight for the LTD Edition and for the other i coudlnt even find it... so yeah not as crazy as it sounds at first
Was about to order a Rise H15 in Jan 2023. Back to the drawing board! I would like to see a review of the lower end Hydro 2023 Wild models though please!
Battery CAN be replaced in around 20 mins by dropping the motor (Orbea mechanics changed mine real quick from 750 to 625) - 20.8KG, Full 29er, 63.5 Head Angle, 170mm Fork, 160mm Rear, Bosch Race Motor. We can have LIGHT and FULL POWER!!
can you add a second battery?
If only this would be mullet😢
frame and battery sz for this weight?
@@roo450 no
Rob, one question only I have:
Voima or this Orbea?
Can we just acknowledge, Rob's absolutely gorgeous filming locastion. Like damn, i'm always suprised.
Basque country north spain
That's my local trails. They're a great testing ground for any bike.
@Rob Rides EMTB can you put a 27.5 in the rear?
La zona de la costa es una ruta que une por la costa HONDARRIBIA con PASAI SAN PEDRO provincia de GIPUZKOA , el resto del video está gravado en LESAKA provincia de NAGARROA , a apenas 20 km. de Hondarribia
Woah, with a burly build my Rise was the same weight ( 20.50kg), carbon frame with the 360W battery. Full props to Orbea for making this bike so light with so much battery and power!
My M10 rise with coil and DD tires in L is on 20.3 kg
I can't decide between a rise and a wild 🤔 was worried the wild would feel too disconnected and boring on more traditional trail riding, but watching this video makes me think maybe the bike is just as agile and fun and the main difference would be the rise has more gentle less obvious assistance and the wild blasts off
@@ErikinCA Felt the same way, and I hike a bike on some of the steep and nasty stuff I find but I think I ride really rough trails and should probably get a Wild to add to the stable instread of another Rise
Awesome video Rob! I’ve caught a few of your vids recently and they are all really good. Re the bike- Lately I’ve been turned off of steep seat angles for any sort of pedaling while standing. Crazy technical climbs, for instance. The steeper angle has your center of mass quite high up, and I find the bike will get hung up much more easily on obstacles. With the “e”, I don’t mind more neutral 75-76 degree seat angles on even the steepest access roads (25% grades). Are you quite tall? I’m 174cm, so riding size medium bikes.
Hey Jeff - great to hear from you! Been watching your content for a long time! Yes, I'm 6"3 - so prefer steeper seat angles, so more needed perhaps compared to a medium frame, as these long droppers on bikes with slack seat tube almost put me over the back wheel!
@@RobRidesEMTB while not even approaching 1% of Jeff's riding style, but at 181 cm I feel the same as you. I used to prefer mullets or 27.5 partly for that reason of not sitting on the back wheels, until the steeper seat angle 29'ers appeared. Those feel much better when pedaling while sitting. But it's also true the center of mass moved up as well, so there is some compromise, riding out of seat earlier and more than before :).
Very near to ordering a Trek Rail 9.8 XT but this has stopped me! Is it better and worth pre ordering?
@@RobRidesEMTB hi Rob, I am also 6ft 3 but 103kg (working on lowering that but natyrally big so can only hope to get to 98kg lowest). I've noticed despite my better skill than some friends, I just cant corner like they do, it's physics, but on burly straighter sections I gain back time lost in corners. I think you are 20kh or so lighter than me so you'll corner much better. I ride mostly technical enduro trails, natural forest types and wondering how, the bike handles on the limit (where traction is being lost) and changing direction. I know there's many variables: terrain, skill, tyres, tyre pressure, suspension tune, conditions but would love to hear more about slow speed handling on steep and twisties and railing all sorts of corners, flat, bermed, negative camber
Amazing photography! Perfect lighting and venues! Nice work man!
Kudos to Orbea! Looks like an incredible bike
agree, looks insane ! But the price tag tho :D
@@FraGGile22 yup, a bit pricey hahaha. Positive side is that Orbea offers a wide range of models. But honestly despite being this impressive the new Wild is not going to be my next Ebike.
@@andresaraujo7579 yeah same 100% not. One of those. that is fun to watch a video of and thats that :D
Hey Rob brilliant video once again! A question were you comfortable on the xl ? I'm just over 6,1 and don't like to big of a bike, just wondering whatd your thoughts thanks
It’s the only bike that would tempt me away from my Levo. Fixed in battery seems a great idea. Cracking review as always.
You are the only reviewer I have seen mentioning overruns. This is one specification that makes a huge difference and most reviewers do not talk about it. Thank you. Is there a way I can find out these specs compared between different bikes/motors. What is the overrun on the non “Race” CX motor?
Wow ......... great review and a bike that is well sorted out but ......... the video quality is stunning . In a sea of poor quality POV MTB RUclips vlogs RR EMTB videos are always such a joy to watch. The bike reviewing gets better , informative and well thought out content that makes sense to us the viewer.
I recently made my choice of bike to purchase based on some of your previous bike reviews , I spent a lot of money on a bike I had never ridden only looked at on a shop floor. My first ride out on it confirmed exactly everything you had explained in your review on it previously.
The Spanish really are turning some great bikes out right now.
Beautiful video, with all the tech talk too! Thanks
When you live in the area where I live, northern part of Norway, being able to take the battery indoors during the winter is a big advantage.
But i agree it is a beautiful bike
Sweet🤙 Good 4 me. But don't EWS pros have spare batteries for swapping between stages...I guess it's the whole spare bike they'll have ready instead? Am I missing this point?
I watched a video of the pros racing them they were running 2 batteries and it was taking them 12 mins to swap inbetween though they have to drop the motor.
Your reviews are like watching a movie. Damn nice shots bro!
Great job Rob! Looks like a great bike. Beautiful places to ride there in Basque country! Seems they have found a way to get performance and lighter weight in the same package...hope this sparks a trend!
Another amazing video, beautifully shot as well. I am a non e-bike rider but the more I watch your videos the more I am excited to convert !!!
They're great! I ride mostly bike parks, but wanted to get out more in the colder months. There's a few new jump lines near me, and I'd get maybe 3-4 runs in before getting tired with my regular bike. The ebike I can get in 10 in the same time.
Plus I'm riding longer and going a lot more frequently, I'm actually getting in better shape than I would had I not gotten one.
BTW if/when you get one, don't settle for anything less than a Bosch battery. So much fun, good luck ✌️
Do you reckon the bike will run good as a mullet setup Rob? Got one on order it’s due end of January was going to try my rear wheel out my enduro bike see how it feels
Hi Rob loving the channel.
I’ve just brought an Orbea wild and have been watching your videos with interest.
Could I ask one question that nobody has asked on any of the videos I have watched.
You say the remote is wireless and Bluetooth. So I’m guessing it has a battery in it to work. My question is. How do you recharge / change the battery. And how long will it last (potentially) between charges / batteries ?
Thanks
Keep up the good work 👍🏻🤙🏼👊🏻⚡️
I can't wait to see how light they could make the next-gen Rise! Current-gen is just over 16 kg but that's using a full-weight Shimano motor; new frame and something like a TQ motor could maybe bring it down close to 14 kg? That would be a dream.
nice technique in the climbing Rob :) and Orbea, they really have impeccable taste, another beautiful bike.
Finally....bosch stepping up to the more integrated options out there!
I’ve got a COMMENCAL meta power 27.5 2018. It’s a heavy beast and I’ve been pinning for a light bike but this bike and the ibis is starting to show that i don’t necessarily buy an underpowered untested motor to get some weight off and still be able to hold its own in where I ride.
I have a 2021 aluminium H25 FS Wild and it's really heavy. It's been extremely reliable, and I've done 3,000 off road miles. The 625 Whr battery is sufficient, and the Gen 4 CX is plenty powerful. As I weigh 98KG, taking 4 KG off the weight is irrelevant. I ride with 2KG of water, another 1KG of tools and spares. I was a bit concerned that I'd not had to change any suspension bushes, service the forks or rear shock in that mileage. So, I asked my LBS to give it a once over before the warranty runs out in January 2023. No faults found. I have replaced cassettes, chains, brake pads, discs and both the front and rear wheels as the bike came with unsealed Shimano hubs. I now have Hope Fortus rims with Pro 4 hubs, which have been great so far. If I was to buy a new bike, I'd definitely want the fixed in-built battery as I rarely remove mine. I don't have a problem with the Bosch Purion display as it's an old familiar friend. My first Cube ebike had one and couldn't fault it then in 2017.
It's not the same if weight is under you or what you carry... you move what is under you, so weight matters...
With that low weight, the differences between lightweight and full fat are getting smaller. Lovely lighting in the video, too!
Hi Rob, would you prefer the Orbea Wild more than the Specialized Turbo Levo?
Awesome video! Liked the fact you pointed out about the headset. I hoped there was more info about bearing sealing and linkage in general.
if you have to pick one, would you take this os the brand new strive? both look great
Great video review of an amazing bike! Your editing is top tier.
Hey Rob, having reviewed both the Yeti 160E and this 2023 Orbea wild, what is the better bike in your opinion? PS. love the videos, keep it up
Rob, is rattle better with Race motor, how quiet is new Wild? If you can compare old Wild vs new, what would be main difference (except geo and weight)? Thanks.
Hi Rob, thanks for all the amazing and detailed videos.
Which bike do you prefer between your Canton Strive On and your Orbea Wild?
Looking to buy my first e-bike and I’m really torn between these two awesome bikes!
Thanks in advance. Steve
Orbeas frame design is finally not ugly
Amazing video, Rob! Thanks for this incredible review! 👍
🙋♂Question: You mentioned you wished there was an XXL size... May I ask how tall you are? I'm 6.2ft, and since I appreciate maneuverability/agility over stability/velocity, I'm more inclined to go for the L size. What are your thoughts? I've seen other videos where they say this Orbea Wild could feel bigger when riding due to the great distance between the two axles. Thank you!
Another great video Rob! Damn…I was going to wait on 2023 Transition with Fazua Ride60, but hard to pass a 170/160 with full power at just over 20Kg!!
Same. Relay looks good and maybe there's still a niche for "mid weight/mid power", but why pass up lighter with full power?
Great to see something that can be customised to your liking , and that there not using a one piece stem and bar like other manufactures, would definitely consider this as a replaced for my current eMTB.
They're amazing... Lightweight, Bosch battery, customizable with a ton of build/color options, great display and a beautiful aesthetic. Plus it's reasonably priced compared to similar builds. I don't have much to compare it too, but every review I've seen, comment I've read and people I've spoken to who have one, all have nothing but great things to say about it.
@@topspot4834 It's really not reasonably priced compared to others. The base carbon model is £7000 and comes with a 35. Come on lol
Beauitiful video! You are a master in creating this kind of content. Really! One question: What size were you testing in the video? XL? I am having problems to decide what size I should choose. I am about your body size, riding an XL Turbo Levo from 2020 right now, and comparing the Geo I would say I should go with the XL. An S5 TL fits also well for me. You mentioned the Wild is "compact" in its dimensions. And therefore I would assume that L would be too small as I prefer the big boys. (S5 and XL for Turbo Levo) instead of L and S4. Thanks in advance for a short info on that!!
How does this compare to the Pole ?
Yes! Now we Talking, they are finally here, the Full Power light weight Bikes 🤠
Love that galactic rainbow paint. That's the colour for me. Iv asked orbea what the ews E team are going to do about only having one battery for racing. I really want the new wild, but need more range for training and racing.
I’m happy with my 2022 version 👍🏼
probably the best presentation video of the orbea wild.
i am impressed by your quality.
Now I'm even more excited about my new Wild M team and can't wait any longer.
I hope there will be more videos from the new wild
+subscribed+
Sweet spot found, awesome. Great vid Rob, cool shots.
I’m 6’4” and have long legs/arms and a short torso. You mentioned that an XXL would be ideal for tall guys. Do you think this may feel a little too small for me?
Subscribed, thank You for the valuable information, besides video production, talking part is done so professionally.
I got all excited thinking i`m gonna upgrade my Wild FS to this. Shame the battery is not removable as mine is kept in the shed and the Mrs would flip if i brought it in the kitchen to keep warm.
I hope they sell frame kit option like Pole Voima.. so I can put my own component. what a beautiful bike, and great video, thanks Rob.
New to your channel but man, your videos is a top notch. Btw lovely frame, cosmic colors.
Thanks Paulius 👍
Loved the review Rob, would you pick it over the santa cruz bullit which is also a fantastic bike.
I dig it. About time Bosch got rid of that abomination of a controller.
but they made it worse without a oled display
@@chrismade123you can use your phone as a display if you’d like
Beautifully filmed Mr Spielberg
Great job Rob. I am thinking of getting a Orbea Wild H20 20mph E-Bike 2023
Wow! great review Rob....both the bike and the location! Looks like the MY23 ebikes are upping the ante BIG time what with the Pole Voima and now the Orbea Wild FS and I hear Scott have something to get excited about just around the corner too!
It's great to see Bosch investing in the racing side of the sport so will be interesting to see if other motor manufacturer's bring a race spec motor to market, along with race spec batteries and it is an exciting time to be an emtb enthusiast... who knows where we go from here? Racing uphill on downhill tracks? I for one would LOVE to see that!
Hi Rob! Which one would you prefer, this one or the giant reign e+ 2022?
I have the Reign E+ 2022, this Orbea is a full 4Kg lighter, similar geometry. This would be a tough decision if I had to buy now 🤔
I'm trying to decide between this 2023 Orbea Wild, the Pole Voima, and the Cannondale Moterra Neo (probably the Moterra Neo Carbon LT 2 or the Moterra Neo Carbon 1). I have a Pivot Switchblade already, and I'm looking for a bike that can handle the uphills and daily riding well, while also giving me extra travel (160+) for the bike park. I'm pretty set on a Bosch motor, but would consider a Brose. I definitely want to keep it under $10,000 USD. What you do you think? I'm hoping for a response from Rob, but welcome all comments. Thanks!
This will be my next bike ( i hope ) 😂...score: 10/10
Hey Rob, any thoughts on how the new Wild rides compared to the Gen 3 Turbo Levo? I've had an S-Works Turbo Levo for a year and am intrigued by the lower weight and full-29er aspect of the Wild. Any comments will me decide if I should swap my TL for the Wild, and would be much appreciated. Thanks much. 🙂
you should, for sure. It will transform you from a mediocre, moving obstacle on the trail, into top 10 ews/dh/whatever rider. The last year model bike was what held you down. 🙄🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Nice bike 👍 but crazy light is a bit of an overstatement I think...only the 12K€ dentist race kashima 625wh ebike model falls into that category.
Go down to a more reasonably priced bike...add 0,2kg for the normal motor, add 0,2kg for a burlier rear tire(exo+ on the rear is not really ebike territory if u ride seriously), 0,1kg for the not golden suspension, add 0,8kg for the 750Wh battery(which most will buy-only a small percentage of ebikers races) and finally no bike is complete without pedals so add 0,4kg(don't know why would someone state a bike weight without pedals...).
Do the math and u end up with approximately 22,6kg and I didn't even venture into the heavier drivetrain/brake components specs....so in my opinion this is a pretty normal weight for a carbon ebike...would actually expect it to be less with the non removable battery.
Also I wish more reviews/reviews would focus on the people's bikes and not the dentist bikes...but I guess Brands throw out their best and probably also point in the direction the releases/reviews should point...
Hey Rob. What does ride like compared to the Kenevo sl not power of the motor just handling and downhill?
Can the stem be replaced from stock? Also, do you have to run the stock stem spacers due to the integrated cable routing?
The shuttle sl is amazing
Great video! 😍 What helmet are you wearing?
Is this the standard “Cosmic Carbon View” colour?
Hey @Rob was the version you tested and weighed the one with 750W/h battery? Just wondering if the 20.8Kg are already including the bigger battery or the smaller one?
Only the top model has that weight: Smaller 625Wh battery, lighter carbon rims, lighter motor, lighter groupset
Great review. I'm in the market to move on from my Trek Rail, and this bike looks pretty sweet. I'm a bit confused about the comparison to a "trail bike" though. When I'm at the top of a trail I want my bike to perform with the speed and poise of a long travel gravity oriented enduro bike, rather than a shorter travel all-around trail bike. Do the trail bike comments mean that it is not a full on descender? Or just that it is more nimble than most of the other full power emtb's that are heavier and some of which have a sort of "monster truck" mentality on the descents?
More nimble, less monster truck in feel, but still fully capable!
Most races / E-EWS I've seen people ride require 2 batteries and a swap at the half way point. What if the battery becomes damaged? Am I able to take the bike on a plane? Makes charging the thing more difficult too
Seems ludicrous to not have a removable battery.
Any other reasoned I've missed?
The mechanics can change them in about 20 minutes (they swapped a 625 into mine super quick!). The motor requires dropping, but they put it in a stand and did it in no time. So races wont be an issue.
Awesome looking bike..👌
Pity there's no frameset only option, but then nobody is offering that. Can't understand why...🤷
I've got my Rail upgraded with everything I want and when I'm ready I just want to buy a frame,motor and battery option, when someone offers it, and transfer the parts ...😕
Hey Rob, love what you do!
What gear you use to film your videos ?
Cheers from France :)
great video! will there be a range extender?
Thanks for your review! Amazing job. I love that ebike. Considering seriously of getting it vs the Rise or even the new Trek EXe. Good job! 💪🏼
Order in for the Ltd , ordered through Wheelbase Darlington. Went for the 750 battery.
Wow, what a bike! I'm wondering where they saved the ~2kg compared to the other Bosch 625wh bikes? Motor seems to only contribute a small part to that and fox / Shimano parts haven't changed. Is it purely the frame?
Frame and battery by make it non-removable. Frame can be much lighter an still stiffer without the cutout and the battery can be almost ‘naked’.
@@tamasvarga67 thanks, that makes sense! I guess I underestimated all the extra bits to secure the battery and then cover it.
@@joeernst266 For some reason the removable batteries are heavy. My 2018 Commencal Meta Power has an external 500Wh battery which is 2,600kg but my friend’s 25% bigger capacity 625Wh battery is 3,900kg and in addition the frame is burlier because of the big opening + the battery door and the closing mechanism.
While I still prefer the external battery I understand why Orbea went with this solution.
@@tamasvarga67 interesting that batteries can be made so much lighter. Maybe they need less safety housing around themselves if they are considered built in. I'm with you though on the removable ones. I would love the weight savings, but I might travel and a removable battery is much more flexible for that. I'm hunting down a Nukeproof Megawatt these days :-)
First time watching your channel. Phenomenal presentation, amazing visuals and a great review. Liked and subscribed!
Thanks!
Nice video and bike! Whats about weight for cheaper models?
was going to buy a rise..... not now! will wait for 2023!
So what happens when the battery stop keeping it's charge? Would I just throw the bike away, like my old smart phone?
Looks like u take motor out then battery will slide out
Correct. Took the mechanics about 20 mins to fully change my 750 to a 625 to test.
hello and thank you for your video, could you tell me the model presented in your video because there are many models of Orbea Wild (h10-h20-h30-m10-m20 etc) I am looking for a model of 21kg or 22kg with minimum 500wh and between 70nm and 85nm thank you for your feedback in advance!!
Very nice professional looking shots. And a very sexy bike !
That thing looks like the absolute dream.
@rob, do you have any intell, how much the alu version Will be heavier, it looks like An awesome packed bike. The topend alu looks decent for the price, Hopefully around 23kg
When will this bike be released?
What about aluminium model, how much weight's frame? Looks like Orbea doesn't care about alu model... just like we have alu model if you want...
Crazy nice shots!!!
And a great review as always 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
maybe not everyone needs removable battery but for me this should be possible and made as easy as possible.. Like for example someone may be keeping his bikes in shed which is not heated in winter, so its good to remove battery and take it home..
I think it will be interesting to see the bike travel around the world, because it will be one of the only emtb that you can't take on the plane, because you can't take the battery out.
Rob mentioned in his comment above that it can be done if you drop the motor which doesn't sound like it is that difficult to do. Probably around half an hour and if you are traveling far that is well worth it.
this is now top of my to buy list :-)
I have a 2021 Turbo Levo and was considering getting the 2022 version. I just can’t get over the mullet set up though. I like my full 29er Levo. In terms of power and handling, how would you say this bike and it’s motor compares to the turbo levos power…..specifically the motor performance. Thanks so much for making these videos. Great content!
Your Levo has had that remote and display for years, power wise your Levo is still hard to beat. turnaround for warranty is awesome with Specialized, the same day regardless of your problem if you use Berkshire turbo. the guys there have your bike turned around while you wait. your motor is quiet when bombing downhill the Bosh motor rattles like a B@$tard. I hope this helps.
Emtb is always a good choice for echo vehicle lovers....!
They have done everything I wished for: a configurable e-Rallon. Hopefully a battery extender will be attachable to the smaller internal batteries.
Hello! Thanks for your message mate! With the 750Wh battery there is more than enough capacity for really long rides, especially in the lower assistance modes. When opting for the BOSCH system it is not possible to develop custom battery solutions. Cheers!
@@orbea thanks for the explanation. Congrats on the nice work, and it looks like a lot of viewpoints were considered before choosing the options. I'd like to keep the weight low, and probably even the smaller battery would be more than enough. Around 20 kg, the bike should pedal pretty fine even with the motor switched off, so not much risk.
@@orbea so that means no extender batteries?
So the battery can’t be removed at all ?? Like even when it inevitably goes bad after a few years ??
Yes battery can be swapped by mechanic / dealers. Orbea mechanics swapped mine in approx 20 mins.
Ear your heart out average joe!
really beautiful! I have to say, the new Bosch system looks much better than the old one. The old has so many cables going and it is easy to pull one out.
Its not only the cables y need to see eurything why y dont write about that the new model the battery can not be removed and what happent when the battery life end how can y replace it and the old wilf fs it is removable and can be added an extra battery .also the new its 2,000 euro more .
Weights in Kg:
WILD H30 24.7
WILD H20 25.43
WILD M20 23.63
WILD M10 23.48
WILD M-TEAM 23.19
WILD M-LTD 22.80
This is with larger battery I’m guessing
Just looked them up as well and the shops only show the weight for the LTD Edition and for the other i coudlnt even find it... so yeah not as crazy as it sounds at first
how does it compare to the Voima?
Bike looks nice, but the trails look fantastic. When were you there? It's tipping it down outside now and I'd love to take a trip.
Good content as always but I would Never get an ebike with a non removable battery . Don’t care how much weight it saves.
Bosch race ?
Did I miss the Watt Battery size? Thanks
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! Great cinematography dude! Ride ride ride!
My only prob with this great review is that it makes me want to get one & i;ve not long since got a Trek Rail
Was about to order a Rise H15 in Jan 2023. Back to the drawing board! I would like to see a review of the lower end Hydro 2023 Wild models though please!