I live in NYC and would love to own this bike. I can change a flat tire but I'm not mechanically inclined. The problem with this bike, as with most e-bikes, is that when it breaks, who's going to fix it? I know my neighborhood bike shop won't touch it. It's the dirty little secret the e-bike makers won't tell you. You're on your own if it breaks. Heck, VanMoof is in my own backyard in Brooklyn and you're screwed if you need something fixed. Also, the next gen Honbike would be better with a 500 watt mid-drive Bosch or Bafang motor.
This bike really has my interest. I wish I could see it in person and try it out. Seems like a great option for the pits at the racetrack or in my city living room. The fact that is weighs just over 40lbs gives you the option to carry it up the steps in the house or load in to the bed of the truck pretty easily. So many options out there, its hard to choose one. Certainly this looks the part.
Single speed test rides benefit from some climbs. You filming in Florida again? I think this gets lots of style points, but always wonder if the cadence of the single speed would make me leave it for a bike with gears.
As you mentioned a bit under powered. I understand it is a light folding bike but I need 500w or better. Do Like the drive shaft technology . My ancestors built the first safety bicycles back in Scotland and the first pedal powered one used push rods connected to the pedals, design based on the old strider style bike but we didn't want to get horse cookies on our feet.
I like the fact that you can remove the tires and tubes from the wheel without first having to remove the wheel from the bike. Makes fixing a flat much easier and faster. Find someone who knows how to unlock the bikes top speed if you want/need.
I like the weight..not a good feeling to run out of battery power on a bike ride but at 44 pounds the ride is easier than most other ebikes out there..
It is a nice looking small e-bike, but the speed is something most can and do peddle with no assistance for countless miles. If the speed were 25mph+ along with having a capacity of far more than around 11 miles I’d consider. There is nice tech in the Ebike, but the performance is lacking majorly Unless you cared to travel at that speed, and have a very short distance to travel, and the time to wait for the bike to charge again. Also hills is a big question in the low amperage of the battery. Will it drain the already small mileage making it even smaller of a range?😲
@@shannontrainer5857 why not? I’m also curious about this. It’s maxed out at 15mph strictly because of UK laws. I’m hoping the app or something will allow for higher speeds
@@shannontrainer5857 good point, I’d be surprised if a 250w motor could even achieve 20mph. Maybe with super fast peddling on a smooth flat surface and a lightweight rider.
@@TheStuartstardust because the manufacturer of this bike built a special size and shape break pads that only fits this bike. So if you need to change the break pads you can’t because the manufacturer doesn’t sell them and no bike shops only carry standard size break pads. This bike is just like crappy swagtron eb7 bike.
@@erikkison I once bought a Chinese bike with crappy mechanical squeaky disk brakes - did replacement with Shimano disk/pads and hydraulic calibers for less than 70 EUR. I don't get why they save on these parts, would happily have paid for the upgrade to avoid the hassle and leftover parts. 🤔🤷
On the page where the bike is being sold i asked and they replied they are standard pads available at bike shops. They will also stock parts for 5 years and 2 year warranty. I ordered one
@@erikkison eb7 is just a one bot s6 from china, therefore i'd assume pads are available for it. in every country a company just rebrands and sells it. here in the uk they call it mirider one. anyway worst case you can just replace the whole braking system, not a huge expense to "throw the bike away"
I'm assuming you misread the est. mileage because 20 kilometers is less than 12 miles which is unacceptable...I think a mention of the design "similarity" to Gocycle would have been due as well. Otherwise a good review.
If you live in a place like London, and you live 4km away from a tube station and your work is 1km away the range is good for that, and thats how the majority of Londoners live
It might be a good bike if part of a person's commute involved trains or subway, especially weighing 44 pounds. It is 100% impractical for my area, as we don't have public transportation.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
I find it strange that a 250W motor will only get you up to 15 mph. 250W of human power at the cranks will make you go 25 mph on a road bike. Does that motor peak at 250W and then decrease the power output when you go faster? Or is it because this bike is just very un-aerodynamic compared to a road bike?
An unrestricted 250W motor without pedaling might eventually get you over 25mph in ideal conditions like a velodrome track. Motor power is more important to assist even on slight grades than to get you more speed. 273Wh is the potential energy of 100kg (my bike+me) raised 1km which is about the same energy to assist me 30km on the level (I average 9Wh/km). If you ascend this 3% grade you need double the energy overall. If you don't slow down from your level speed, you then need double the power. Roughly each 1% grade needs 30% more power so a 10% grade needs about 4x the power.
@Brian Nugent Yup, those numbers do climb quickly as weight and grade increase. Locally the inclines average 12% with the high hitting around 18-20%. I have killed several low powered hub motors (200-300w) on these hills.
250w in a hub is not the same as 250w through a drivetrain. This why mid-drive motors can be less powerful (both in torque and watts) and still do the job just fine as assist.
nice design features - too expensive - too light in power for the light weight to be of any value - too small of a battery - when it drops to $699 then it will be about right
Agreed on the price being too expensive. Ebikes with similar specs are $600-900, so you’re paying a lot just for the minimal design and shaft drive. That being said, I’m still considering this ebike lol
Bigger motors please in Rural Alaska we need to go faster than a bear can run and this is not a joke or avoid a moose charge by distancing ones self from those hazards
Use a Honda 49cc scooter instead. They can go over 40mph and they get 100+mpg Best part is you don't have to wait for any battery to charge back up. If you want to travel farther just stop at a gas station and fill it up with 1 gallon of regular unleaded. They have a 4 stroke engine so you don't need to mix any oil with the gas.
@@Prepare2Survive The idea here is to be done with fossil fuels. And I am not going to be putting one of the Honda scooters in the back of my car or in my camper...
@@johnsexton3841 You really think we are going to stop using crude oil? There's thousands of other products made from it besides fuels for internal combustion engines. A lot of the pharmaceuticals many people rely on to stay healthy as they age are made using chemicals derived from petroleum. Why would you need to put a scooter in the back of your car? The Honda ones are super reliable and pretty much last forever and they are street legal. I see tons of people with Honda Ruskus mopeds on the back of their camper with a hitch carrier. They aren't anywhere near as heavy as the typical motorcycle.
@@Prepare2Survive This was a review for a "last mile" solution. Any other insertion to this discussion is just wasted time. But in answer, what is your point? Where I live, those hitch mounted carriers are not legal. I would have to mount a bike rack to the exterior which will ding my mileage. I would put the thing inside my camper and lose no mileage. And no, we will never get rid of the fossil fuel industry but we should try to remove it where possible. When it comes down to it, I will change to all electric vehicles but never get rid of either my Tiger or R100S...
those who buy this will get shafted when company goes bankrupt...nobody's buying this at 2400 (knowing they are still profiting at 1200 igg) except a few poor suckers
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At the 3:18 mark, I am guessing you were planning to say 20 miles or 45 kms and not vice verse...
This should be pinned
You're absolutely correct, John. I think I'm getting too old for this. ruclips.net/video/lLuv5mergoc/видео.html
… and 20 miles is equal to 32 kms
Spot on correctional officer!
Awesome song at the end btw… Made me feel alive in a magical 80s kind of way :^)
I live in NYC and would love to own this bike. I can change a flat tire but I'm not mechanically inclined. The problem with this bike, as with most e-bikes, is that when it breaks, who's going to fix it? I know my neighborhood bike shop won't touch it. It's the dirty little secret the e-bike makers won't tell you. You're on your own if it breaks. Heck, VanMoof is in my own backyard in Brooklyn and you're screwed if you need something fixed. Also, the next gen Honbike would be better with a 500 watt mid-drive Bosch or Bafang motor.
What a breath of fresh air. So many new innovations in one package. Would like to see a 750w continuous version offered in the future.
I seriously doubt it.
This bike really has my interest. I wish I could see it in person and try it out. Seems like a great option for the pits at the racetrack or in my city living room. The fact that is weighs just over 40lbs gives you the option to carry it up the steps in the house or load in to the bed of the truck pretty easily. So many options out there, its hard to choose one. Certainly this looks the part.
Single speed test rides benefit from some climbs. You filming in Florida again? I think this gets lots of style points, but always wonder if the cadence of the single speed would make me leave it for a bike with gears.
Oh man this would almost be perfect with only 2 things left out. 18-20mph top speed and cargo-really need storage/racks to carry.
As you mentioned a bit under powered. I understand it is a light folding bike but I need 500w or better. Do Like the drive shaft technology . My ancestors built the first safety bicycles back in Scotland and the first pedal powered one used push rods connected to the pedals, design based on the old strider style bike but we didn't want to get horse cookies on our feet.
I like the fact that you can remove the tires and tubes from the wheel without first having to remove the wheel from the bike. Makes fixing a flat much easier and faster. Find someone who knows how to unlock the bikes top speed if you want/need.
A great feature not illustrated in any of the few videos Ive watched.
You don't need to take wheel. Off to fix a flat on a regular bike. Just slide tube out, patch.. Put back on
Wow very cool and futuristic!
Nicely innovative!🚲 🔌 🤓 Reminds me of the GoCycle. Better price tho. 😉
🤣The rear mudguard.....what Tune does it play at speed over bumps 🤣
If we take the battery, will still function if we manually pedal it.
I like the weight..not a good feeling to run out of battery power on a bike ride but at 44 pounds the ride is easier than most other ebikes out there..
Carry a extra big battery lol
Rear fender wobbles
Yeah a bit worrisome, but I’m hoping that’s because this is a review unit and not a final production model
Awesome design 👍🏼
It is a nice looking small e-bike, but the speed is something most can and do peddle with no assistance for countless miles. If the speed were 25mph+ along with having a capacity of far more than around 11 miles I’d consider. There is nice tech in the Ebike, but the performance is lacking majorly Unless you cared to travel at that speed, and have a very short distance to travel, and the time to wait for the bike to charge again. Also hills is a big question in the low amperage of the battery. Will it drain the already small mileage making it even smaller of a range?😲
How is the seat? Does it get uncomfortable on long rides?
it has the option to swap for standard seatpost/any seat you want
Any possibility of unlocking 20mph for US market?
No.
@@shannontrainer5857 why not? I’m also curious about this. It’s maxed out at 15mph strictly because of UK laws. I’m hoping the app or something will allow for higher speeds
@@HypocritesExposd That's because the tiny motor is designed for up to 250 W.
@@shannontrainer5857 good point, I’d be surprised if a 250w motor could even achieve 20mph. Maybe with super fast peddling on a smooth flat surface and a lightweight rider.
Lovely Bike ☺️
4:07 you say it’s $1299 on indegogo, but I see $1499
3:15 '20 kilometers or 45 miles'? 20 kilometers = 12 miles
I wonder is this uncomfortable to ride once the battery power runs out?
can u still ride it when battery is dead?
Cool, gotta save up! Any spare batteries?
Yes you can get an extra battery for $199 when you order one at the indegogo campaign. I’m contemplating getting the extra battery myself
The back fender looks like it’s gonna fall off!Ill keep my Lectric XP
When the break pads wear of you basically have to throw the whole bike away. I learned my lesson the hard way after buying Swagtron eb7.
Why?
@@TheStuartstardust because the manufacturer of this bike built a special size and shape break pads that only fits this bike. So if you need to change the break pads you can’t because the manufacturer doesn’t sell them and no bike shops only carry standard size break pads. This bike is just like crappy swagtron eb7 bike.
@@erikkison I once bought a Chinese bike with crappy mechanical squeaky disk brakes - did replacement with Shimano disk/pads and hydraulic calibers for less than 70 EUR. I don't get why they save on these parts, would happily have paid for the upgrade to avoid the hassle and leftover parts. 🤔🤷
On the page where the bike is being sold i asked and they replied they are standard pads available at bike shops. They will also stock parts for 5 years and 2 year warranty. I ordered one
@@erikkison eb7 is just a one bot s6 from china, therefore i'd assume pads are available for it. in every country a company just rebrands and sells it. here in the uk they call it mirider one. anyway worst case you can just replace the whole braking system, not a huge expense to "throw the bike away"
I'm assuming you misread the est. mileage because 20 kilometers is less than 12 miles which is unacceptable...I think a mention of the design "similarity" to Gocycle would have been due as well. Otherwise a good review.
If you live in a place like London, and you live 4km away from a tube station and your work is 1km away the range is good for that, and thats how the majority of Londoners live
Probably means 20miles or 45km.
@@Notagain640 20 miles = 32 km
27 miles = 45km
What's the rider weight limit?
Which country is it made?
...you mean 20 miles or 45 kilometres. :)
if the main hinge is move back 3 inches or so, the wheels will overlap and the bike will fold even smaller.
nice bike....where i can buy it? ah we live same neighbors hoods.
Can a rear rack be added? If so is there specific brands that work?
Get a seatpost mounted rack ... they clamp straight on.
if this has 500w motor,40-45mile range and 20miles/hr, this will sell like pancakes
It might be a good bike if part of a person's commute involved trains or subway, especially weighing 44 pounds. It is 100% impractical for my area, as we don't have public transportation.
Noone says it must be used in combination with public transport 😂🤭
*Range tested by an emaciated toddler descending Pike's Peak
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Supercool!
3:18 Strike that, reverse it ruclips.net/video/lLuv5mergoc/видео.html
All this engineering and innovative design and then a crappy motor and battery? Might as well get a $300 cheapy Costco e bike.
I find it strange that a 250W motor will only get you up to 15 mph. 250W of human power at the cranks will make you go 25 mph on a road bike. Does that motor peak at 250W and then decrease the power output when you go faster? Or is it because this bike is just very un-aerodynamic compared to a road bike?
It's because the power cuts out at 15 mph due to European laws limiting e-bikes to 15 mph under power
An unrestricted 250W motor without pedaling might eventually get you over 25mph in ideal conditions like a velodrome track.
Motor power is more important to assist even on slight grades than to get you more speed.
273Wh is the potential energy of 100kg (my bike+me) raised 1km which is about the same energy to assist me 30km on the level (I average 9Wh/km).
If you ascend this 3% grade you need double the energy overall. If you don't slow down from your level speed, you then need double the power.
Roughly each 1% grade needs 30% more power so a 10% grade needs about 4x the power.
@Brian Nugent Yup, those numbers do climb quickly as weight and grade increase.
Locally the inclines average 12% with the high hitting around 18-20%.
I have killed several low powered hub motors (200-300w) on these hills.
250w in a hub is not the same as 250w through a drivetrain.
This why mid-drive motors can be less powerful (both in torque and watts) and still do the job just fine as assist.
nice design features - too expensive - too light in power for the light weight to be of any value - too small of a battery - when it drops to $699 then it will be about right
Agreed on the price being too expensive. Ebikes with similar specs are $600-900, so you’re paying a lot just for the minimal design and shaft drive. That being said, I’m still considering this ebike lol
Bigger motors please in Rural Alaska we need to go faster than a bear can run and this is not a joke or avoid a moose charge by distancing ones self from those hazards
Use a Honda 49cc scooter instead. They can go over 40mph and they get 100+mpg Best part is you don't have to wait for any battery to charge back up. If you want to travel farther just stop at a gas station and fill it up with 1 gallon of regular unleaded. They have a 4 stroke engine so you don't need to mix any oil with the gas.
@@Prepare2Survive The idea here is to be done with fossil fuels. And I am not going to be putting one of the Honda scooters in the back of my car or in my camper...
What you need is a Class 3 e-bike. This bike is intended for urban commuting
@@johnsexton3841 You really think we are going to stop using crude oil? There's thousands of other products made from it besides fuels for internal combustion engines. A lot of the pharmaceuticals many people rely on to stay healthy as they age are made using chemicals derived from petroleum. Why would you need to put a scooter in the back of your car? The Honda ones are super reliable and pretty much last forever and they are street legal. I see tons of people with Honda Ruskus mopeds on the back of their camper with a hitch carrier. They aren't anywhere near as heavy as the typical motorcycle.
@@Prepare2Survive This was a review for a "last mile" solution. Any other insertion to this discussion is just wasted time. But in answer, what is your point? Where I live, those hitch mounted carriers are not legal. I would have to mount a bike rack to the exterior which will ding my mileage. I would put the thing inside my camper and lose no mileage. And no, we will never get rid of the fossil fuel industry but we should try to remove it where possible. When it comes down to it, I will change to all electric vehicles but never get rid of either my Tiger or R100S...
Almost the same with the igogomi bike you reviewed months ago
ruclips.net/video/D4q3Fjx-Pdk/видео.html
surprised this didnt get deleted after micah says "this is unlike anything hes ridden before"
Thanks for pointing that out. Almost same exact design, except that igogomi ebike is $1799 and only 200w.
Looks great.. to slow
The fenders look like they are origami, they wobble like paper.
20Km or 45 miles? Obviously not right.
*EYEROLL*
So it's "just fine" but not good.
where can I put my waifu pillow?
those who buy this will get shafted when company goes bankrupt...nobody's buying this at 2400 (knowing they are still profiting at 1200 igg) except a few poor suckers
Like many other ebikes, the retail price will be $2400 but will regularly go on sale for $1700ish