We hit a Million views! Thanks to everyone who watched this it was my first of many Star Wars documentaries, sorry about the annoying music was simply a rookie mistake due to rushing this documentary but I promise the next one will be even better! May the force be with you my friends!
ur "hardcore fans vs casual fans" thing kinda turns me off. sure some people r more vocal than others but in the end the split goes between fans and people ho never cared and saw one random movie. its an overal money grab this days and the "hardcore fans" that did introduce star wars to their kids and kept the fever alive r less and less interested. star wars was allways about entertainment and its getting less and less entertaining, both in movies and games.. facts..
@@cyberchild7018 honestly I wouldn't be surpised if +Michael Connolly is right in this context. They would blame the fans for them ruining the franchise
Star Wars fans: "I don't like Rey." Disney: _"oh wowwwwwww typical sexist Star Wars fans hating on strong female protagonists!1!!!"_ The same Star Wars fans: *love Ahsoka Tano, Princess Leia, Bo Katan, Asajj Ventress, Padme, Hera Syndulla, and many other female characters the same as they love the male ones.
@@blazingn86 yikes. Literally I'm positive most Star Wars fans don't mind female characters (in fact, characters like Ahsoka Tano or Princess Leia for example are some of the most popular characters in all of Star Wars) Disney is just calling us sexist to justify their inability to write decent plots and complex characters.
Honestly! Rey is a poorly written character that has a horrible character arc. She doesn't deserve to be in star wars, but of course whenever a man says that they are characterized as being sexist even though they just want good writing. NO ONE CARES IF THE MAIN CHARACTER IS FEMALE OR MALE IF THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD CHARACTER ARC NO ONE WILL LIKE THEM. Well, except for people who want to please the left... People just want good stories!Stop trying to bring politics into it! We need more Star Wars like The Clone Wars. I rest my case.
Fans have built better films than anything made by Disney for Star Wars. Darth Maul, Vader, and even some fan projects trying to turn Legacy of the Force novels into movies.
@@wafflestoast5228 More likely the problem is that they weren't. At the time I would've called the prequels diabolical but that was fifteen years before I found out what the devil was _truly_ capable of. The prequels were bad films, atrocious star wars films.
@Vino I have hopes Knives Out will at least give him a Wes Anderson appeal (saw it a few days ago at a film festival. It was great), but like Wes before him, TLJ pretty much guarantees working on more independent projects in the near future.
Nice synopsis, but you left out Disney attacking the fans who disliked TLJ, and Mark Hammill's months of dropping hints at his horror at working with Rian Johnson
@@JRut99 Is Lucasfilms lack of character to protect its work from Disney. It's also Disney lack of vision and understanding of the franchise. Kennedy was to permissive with Bob Iger, she allowed him to treat Lucasfikm like it's Marvel Studios. Kennedy was in charge of chosing Jar Jar Abrams and Ruin Johnson, she was also not strong enough to protect Lucas involvement in the guidance of the new trilogy. At the end Bob Iger took the fault, and declared that "it was too much, too fast". Kennedy said "We didn't realize this was not Marvel".
Nobody wants dysmay, as the stories are not align with the original 6 films, as they attacked the fandom and called light sabres, laser swords is unforgivable, as making a mockery of luke skywalkers whole brilliant films by George lucas? How to crash star wars into the floor FACT!!
I don't know. History and National Geographic are perhaps the two companies that Disney has a reason to sell but either way, they should've been stopped decades ago after spending more than 3 decades of going really cheap in the live-action department to the point where nobody even cares about most of their live-action movies before 2000. Do you guys even realize that?
Smolby You may just get your wish. Keep an eye on the possible but out of Disney by Apple. Google it. Was just very recently & yes it has alot to do with the virus, virtually no one is going to movie theaters and not very many were before Corona Virus. Disney is well aware of the hatred for there films and they're finally getting it. It also has to do with their purchase of 21 St century Fox for which they had to pay over 30 billion if not more for and really, As farcas lucrative franchises go that Disney could capitalise on, there just aren't many there, aside from the 2 Alien & Planet of the Apes who's last entries didn't even make back their production costs so, it's for real & I hope it happens because if you thought what they did to star Wars was bad, wait until you see a Disney produced Alien film
@@chadwick4517 Most Alien movies got bad ratings from what I gathered and it's clear that people don't want anymore Alien films anyway. Plus, it's not like there's a possibility of toning down the violence because they *know* they'll get lots of hate if they do and the latest Predator movie remained R-rated. Case in point, people will want Disney to go R-rated because they especially expect thatt in Alien.
TRoS relied too much on fan service to tug on our heart strings. I'll admit, I actually liked it on first viewing, but looking back on it, the story and overall payoff was not good
Jedi: Fallen Order sucked as far as I'm concerned. Ya, lets have a SW game that glitches you right out of the game, over and over, has so little combat that you may as well not have a lightsaber at all, with such terrible game mechanics that you end up throwing your controller out the window, in frustration because you can't do anything properly. Oh boy, where do I sign up for THAT beta? The fact is, they ignored what the fans wanted, which was a TRUE sequel to battlefront 2, and 1313. But noo, they had to cancel those. Hell, they even sued the makers of the KotOR update, killing any chance we had of getting that. They didn't care what we wanted, and when they DID try to give us something (they thought) we wanted (TROS), they failed miserably with that too. And TCW, they only made 1 season of that. They can hardly be credited with ANYTHING to do with that one, except giving us 1 season of a show that they realized they never should have cancelled in the first place. A better example would have been Rebels. It's not nearly as good as TCW, but it had it's charms. Personally, I only liked the first 2 seasons, then I was done with it.
“Did you ever hear the tragedy of The Last Jedi? I thought not. It's not a story George would tell you. It's a Rian legend. The Last Jedi was a dark piece of political and cultural subversion, so powerful and so wise it thought it could use the Franchise to influence the fandom to create everlasting riches… It had such knowledge of the dark side that it could even make the iconic characters they so cared about easily die. The dark, subversive side of the Franchise is a pathway to many narratives some consider to be unnatural. It became so powerfully hated … the only thing it was afraid of was losing money, which eventually, of course, Solo did. Unfortunately, George gave his apprentice everything he created, and then his apprentice killed it in his sleep. Ironic. George spent 40 years breeding a Golden Goose then sold it to a butcher.”
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 Look, I don't wanna get into the conspiracy theory that Disney paid off critics to leave glowing reviews of the movie... But it's a helluva lot more plausible than Russian bots and trolls destroying the reputation of a great movie because it has women in it. There were millions of people who saw the movie. Roughly half of those who saw it thought it was good and gave no more thought to it. I can't find a Star Wars fan open to dialogue that doesn't think letting Rian get close to the script was a mistake, though. We could have had a great script to go with the fantastic visuals. The directing Rian did is top-notch if you mute the TV.
@@eras1066 it's legit bruh I remember looking at ratings for the movie when it came out and they were in the low 20s from audience and then 50k reviews got deleted to bump up the rating. Same shit happened to captain marvel
It can be a good movie, if it has some connection with the previous movie. I personally think letting different directors handling the same trilogy is not a good move
EA Battlefront 1 wasnt good, it was ok not good EA Battlefront 2 too overhyped, was not good at launch, great currentlly due to Dice fighting for it with adding new stuff all the time
I'll NEVER forgive Disney for how they totally degraded and treated hero Luke Skywalker and completely ignored Anakin. Disney SW simply isn't Canon to me.
D&D are talented, they directed all of GoT after all, it's just that after they got word that Disney were offering that sweet sweet cash they peace'd out of GoT and dropped the series, that's why the last 2 seasons are rushed beyond belief, they wanted to get started on the Star Wars money boat as soon as possible. They're not bad writers or directors, they're bad people.
@bla blahblah lol oh he could be an awesome actor but naw, not down for them to write him like that and then be portrayed in such a way...just like what's happened with several of the other characters...it's a darn shame.
I remember watching the first two films of the sequels and thinking “You know, they aren’t the best, but you know, i’ll take it. Wasn’t expecting much since it’s coming from Disney.” Then when Rise of Skywalker came out and I had a friend come to me telling me he was about to spoil it against my wishes, but I would be grateful in the end. He told me Palpatine survived the 2nd death star and I kinda laugh and thought he was joking...
The only problem was that it was rushed which wasn't it's fault. No the ceo of disney didn't write the sequels Lucasfilm did. Everyone was gonna hate the sequels they literally said before they made them its gonna suck and that's final.
@@Clay3613 I think you're the one not living in reality bro. Go watch the many many interviews he had talking about how he didn't like the movie and what they did to Luke Skywalker.
@Mustiboi Salman There is a different between liking something and thinking that something is objectively good or not. I like alot of movies that are badly made and not into good movies like the Shining or Jaws
@@MoreAwsomeMetal that's objectively false. Last Jedi made Force Awakens worse by creating plot holes it also copied Empire to a T and had the most contrived scenes in the series I wanna see proof that Force Awakens is nearly as offensive as Last Jedi
Here is the thing Many people were in denial that episode 8 was bad. Basically they were in stage one of grief, no way Disney could a bad Star Wars even no way Disney could make a movie this bad. That what was happening. I didn't help that the media is a bunch a payed sheels glorifying it. Anyone saying they liked The Last Jedi. Is in Denial(or still has rose tinted glasses on), A fucked Sheel, or just likes stuff other people hate.
It is a good individual movie, bad middle movie of a trilogy. Rise of Skywalker is the only shit movie in the Sequels. The main issue is that they never had a plan and let each director do their own thing, a recipe for disaster.
Its funny now that a crowd of people can apreciate the phantom menace now. I never hated any of the films when they came out when i was young. I thought this was pretty cool stuff! I loved thar robot with the one eye!
The thing is us fans didnt want EVERYTHING catered to us when it came to this sequel trilogy. Just one thing Disney could have done for us, treated the OT characters with respect and not use them as somekind of social message in the movies. They could have given us ONE scene showing Luke, Leia and Han all meeting up, on screen for one last time, a "reunion" and there would not hve been all the backlash there is now.
Andrew Pytko Nothing, actually I don’t think any execs understand this. Rogue one proved that fan service can be successful, yet they haven’t learned it. They don’t understand that letting a directly say fuck you I wanna make my own movie to an entire fan base is not a good idea, and it forced Solo to flop and now they’re paying for it
The most heart breaking part of all this is how crushed mark Hamill is. Disney got his hopes up that he would reprise one of the most iconic roles in movie history only to crush his dreams by ruining his character
Just the name “skywalker” sounds so badass. Shame on all of them. Even george lucas for handing his own life’s work completely over to a bunch of nutcases
I did feel sorry for him but Mark has turned out to be such a Twat , he hates me cause I dare hold different Political opinions to him. Seems like a horrible human.
Not to mention the 50.000 plotholes that completely break any continuity in TLJ. Nothing in this movie holds itself to any established rules. I was suprised Frodo didn't show up
You can like it as much as you want. All the more power to you. It's still a bad movie that makes no sense and seeing how you know about the "bandwagon", then you also know the solid arguments being made for it's massive gaping holes and nonsensical story. I'll shut up about it the moment people actually acknowledge it's bad, but they still like it. There's movies that are bad that I like as well. I'm not gonna pretend they're great movies tho.
@@Souledge5 Except all the critics seemed to like it just fine....but not the ultra toxic fan base apparently. Let me guess, Disney bought all those reviews right? How about its score on cinemascore? You know the review site which asks people to rate the movie right when the leave the theater on opening day...yeah sitting at a solid "A". It has 91 percent on rotten tomatoes and 85 on metacritic (which averages all critic scores). You know the first week before all this toxic crap flooded the internet, TLJ had phenomenal user reviews as well. When I went, (on the 3rd day it was out), people clapped at the end. So don't give me that bullshit. People stopped enjoying the movie cause they went into it expecting to hate it. Idk if you know who Ben Shapiro is, but he is known for being a fairly impartial judge of pretty much anything. He didn't like TLJ, yet was able to come up with so many positive aspects of the film. However, every comment I see is like yours- over-dramatic, bandwagon on the hate train BULLSHIT. Frankly its easily one of the better star wars movies, especially when you consider Rian Johnson had to write this movie after that dumpster first, hot pile of garbage that was TFA. Haha and if you don't think EVERY single star wars movie has gaping plot holes (and some way worse than TLJ) then you are deluded.
@@emperormouse5487 it was not, TLJ broke star wars in many places(bending/tearing the established rules of the universe), TLJ didn't answer anything about The force awakens and basically didn't follow certain rules for movie making. TLJ is/was a bad movie, it's a simple fact.
Everyone hated on the prequels and now look where that got us. Go back and watch the prequels and you'll see they don't deserve half the criticism they got.
The fans who were butthurt about how bad the prequels were are the reason George sold Lucasfilm to Disney. We can thank them for fuking Star Wars in the first place.
Jesus. I never actually internalized how completely and ruthlessly Disney demolished my faveourite franchise before I saw your video. And I'm still only at 9:32
@@Nigga.69 Yeah, we should just pretend the sequels dont exist and look forward to Favreu and Filoni, they will fix the franchise I assure you. Hope is a theme in Star Wars and is fans must have it so Star Wars may rise again into a good franchise, forget the sequels existed and remain positive for the future.
Disney buys star wars: "Okay great guys look at all this expanded universe, why don't we-" Kathleen Kenedy: "Burn it" And here we all felt that Jar Jar was gonna be the worst most brainless character ever created but no, turns out we didn't even need to create a fictional moron as the real world clearly outdoes any fictional nonsense we can imagine
@@merikmalhads1676 even if and when george lucas made his ST he was going to throw it out Meaninf people were going to be but hurt regardless Did you know the first thrawn trilogy ws largrly used by vlucas as test market to se if. Anyone was still onterested in star wars so he couls justify making the PT films
"The Last Jedi was so good it got a whole new trilogy!" *Literally going to pretend it isn't the most hated movie next to The Rise of Skywalker that literally had a petition signed by millions of fans to not exist in the cannon universe*
To me, they executed Order 66 with TLJ, TFA was just to hook us and make money at the theaters for their next project so they could do the deed with TLJ, imo.🤢 Well, WE have "the high ground" now. 😠 So, they're gonna keep KK for another 3 yrs. huh? 🤦🏾♀️ Well, that'll be another 3 yrs. of money loses then. 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾🤣🤣🤣
The funny thing is we don't need the Sequels for pretty much anything good in the series lately except for one neat little twist to start the later part of Fallen Order.
you see, the fans are what's wrong with star wars, not the movies the fandom. people can't accept or appreciate these new films. if fans didn't drive Lucas up the wall he would have made the sequel trilogy. we made the death bed now we need to sleep in it.
Just another example of a female getting an undeserved job on account of being female just so a mega corporation can appeal to their SJW audience for some reason. Also she can't be fired for her quite frankly, disgustingly offensive incompetence, because that would be sexist.
Disney reminds me of the CCP in China...😂😂😂 they think they knew what the public wanted but instead they just killed it without a care in the world but trying to bring in the money and now no one believes them anymore so it’s gonna be hard to do business in the future...it’s only the brainwashed die hard Star Wars fans that think anything after the force awakens film is good (which it wasn’t that good to be fair anyway but I was excited to see what they had to offer!) and now all I’m thinking to myself is that I don’t want to hand over my money to them anymore with their shit products....it’s such a shame to the fans and will never be the same again 😔 RIP Star Wars
All I want is Disney to admit that they made an awful Star Wars movie. That's all I want. Stop making excuses for why we hate it. We are not bots, sexist, or racist. We are fans that are upset with a bad movie with plot holes and bad characters. And don't lash out at your fans for their criticism (but toxic criticism IS way worse than TLJ). Me personally I liked TFA and RO, but this was awful. TLJ ruined TFA because of these. I saw this along with 30 friends all for free (church camp trip) and we felt bad for the person who bought all of our tickets. Even Mark Hamill seemed worried about TLJ. He looked so sick whenever he was asked about his opinion of TLJ. He constantly stated he didn't see this Luke as the Luke that we grew up with. I'm sorry Disney. I really want to like this movie but I can't and i don't know if i will see 9. could give a whole list why I hated it but I'll try to keep that to myself. All I want is just a simple sorry and for us to move on. And I'm sorry Kelly Marie Tran for all the hate you got for Rose Tico. Hopefully Disney gets you a movie to redeem yourself. You did your best with what they gave you. Hate the movie not the player
I fully agree, all I really want, all it would really take for me to be on board with seeing episode 9 would be admitting that they had done something wrong and apologizing for it, because otherwise I can't believe that they aren't going to continue doing what they did wrong in the first place because obviously if they don't think that they did anything wrong they aren't going to stop doing it, it's in The Last Jedi, failure is an amazing teacher however it is only a teacher if you recognize your failure and try to avoid repeating it in the future
@ ClassyRanger Damn right! But sorry, that will be a bit longer... My interest to see Episode 9 is ZERO! But do not expect any apology from Disney. That would make them lose face and admit that they do not know what to do with the Star Wars brand. Disney remains Disney. Do not tease and whitewash everything family friendly. Therefore, I also believe that they wanted to deliberately break with TLJ with the old fanbase, which has always been enthusiastic for a rougher Star Wars with clear role distributions. Humor yes, but no kid-friendly slapstick for its own sake. But thats what Disney want. The old fanbase, grown up with the old trilogy, the Dark Horse Comics and many books, are just only a burden for Disney. Disney don't need a fanbase that analyzes every aspect of a new product, in every detail. They only wan't stupid consumers who ask nothing behind. And i think, Kelly Marie Tran has not just a bad role, she also played it miserably, because the role of Rose Tico does not fit into the story at all, but only serves as a placeholder to teach the audience morally. But thats RJs main misstake, and not Kelly's. There were certainly a few critics who crossed the line to racism and sexism. That was by no means the majority, but it stuck in the public debate about TLJ. The problem is that Disney has lumped all the fans together and did not even begin to differentiate.
It was as if Disney had been waiting to attack the fanbase with baseless insinuations.
To cut a long story short, RJ ignored the foundations of TFA, sabotaged JJA's work, and unleashed a gender debate that fanbase never led. In my 30 years with SW, I have never cared for gender roles. Up to TLJ... The film tried to preach "equality" with the mallet method. And here comes the point where it becomes unrealistic ... Describing fans as sexists who criticize roles such as Holdo and Rose, but love Leia at the same time and mourn the death of Carrie Fisher, almost show's how insensitive and narcissistic Disney is at times. Back at the topic, Disney seems to want to dispose of the old fanbase by offending them and praising only the positive criticism of casual Star Wars consumers who found TLJ good. By now I'm at a point where Disney's acting for me has absolutely method. The SW-EU is no longer considered a canon, is the strongest proof for me, that Disney wants to tear down all the foundations of the old fanbase to transform Star Wars into a product that works at any time for 6 year old Kids. There is no interest in grayscale in the SW universe. Black and white sells better, especially among the younger crowd. Star Wars has been guiding me all my life, but after TLJ i have enough of Disney's interpretation of Star Wars. The only thing that still arouses my interest, is The Mandalorian, but as soon as even once, childish slapstick for 6 year old Kids in it, or any moral instruction finds in it, I am finally out of Disneys SW.
I wonder if that poor guy who said he watched episode 3 at the same spot he is watching episode 7 at 10 years later with his sons after missing one of their births gave up on the franchise after episode 8...cause good god...poor dude..in one way you feel bad cause its just pure joy and hope and excitement and I hope he wasn't let down but in another way its kinda funny cause while loyalty matters its why we don't get better quality cause these media people know idiots will eat up anything with the name brand on it even if its low quality sadly and make as much money as they want off these fools without proving the right service and its an endless loop
The level of mismanagement of Star Wars under Disney has been so bad it's kind of hard to believe. This is the biggest franchise in the history of pop culture and they decided it would be a good idea to go into a new trilogy with no plan and the audacity to pull the plug on the old extended universe.
The Last few minutes are my personal favorite, so if you find yourself needing to skip to the end 55:14 is a good place to start. Thanks for watching everybody
If there is anything you need to learn, it’s that if you ever own a really successful film company, don’t sell it to Disney. They will infamously screw it up.
The second best thing they could do is allow Turner Broadcasting and Adult Swim to air the entire Star Wars: Clone Wars micro-series on Toonami on Adult Swim for one night only in December.
I wasn't too pleased with TFA, since it went in a direction I didn't really like, but it still made me interested to see what would happen in the next installment TLJ made me feel insulted to be a Star Wars fan after watching it
@@RobimusPrime I don't know in what universe the last Jedi felt like Star Wars, I left that movie thinking I walked into wrong room. Where was the comradely adventure? only adventure I got was rose and fin(?) who's entire arc was useless and unnecessary waste of time. You can take that entire arc out of the movie and you wouldn't miss anything and save 30 min.
TFA felt too much like a rehash of A New Hope. It's only enjoyable enough from the fanservice of the older characters. The Last Jedi felt like a high budget Spaceballs but with humor that falls flat
I didn’t feel insulted to be a Star Wars fan, I just felt sad that anything new from Star Wars from that point on would never again bring me the excitement, joy, and anticipation I felt about anything prior.
Disney was one of the studios that turned down Star Wars back when George Lucas was trying to make the first one. Now that its a success they want it, and in a strange twist it has not been successful for them. Maybe they shouldn't have trashed George's outline for the sequels and ignored the rest of the EU stories and projects.
When you're happy with Disney that they're bringing Clone Wars back even though they were the ones that took it from you in the first place. "You have allowed this dark lord to twist your mind."
George Lucas once said "Star wars is really all about Anakin. It starts when he is a 9 year old boy, and ends when he dies". That is also my Star Wars. I loved the ending to "Return of the Jedi", but with the new movies, they make the ending seem so unimportant. If you ask me, that is.
As a casual Star Wars movie fan, I can safely say that The Last Jedi killed my entire interest in Star Wars. I’ll just stick with the OT. This is a sad time.
Unfortunately can totally agree with you. I have zero interest in rewarding Disney/KK for carefully dismantling the franchise into an unlovable entity.
the thing is Hayden Christensen isnt a bad actor. I guarantee they forced him to play it that dead and horribly. Go watch him in jumper. He's interesting and fun. Yes its not the deepest movie in the world but he does a good job in it. In SW he walked around with a stick up his ass looking annoyed with life and talking in a bizarre emotionless fake-deep voice
Since George Lucas sold his company to Disney they have: Shut down the fan loved and financially successful Clone Wars. Shut down the financially successful Star Wars games division which were producing a game that through hype alone was guaranteed to be a success. Released two god awful sequels which are so bad that fans have realised that the prequels are actually GOOD now. Released several animated successors which have largely been rejected as regurgitated crap by the community. Released SOLO, an alright film that was destroyed by fan rejection of the chaotic practices of Disney. What's next? How much longer will they continue to insist and destroying our beloved franchise before they just give up and Star Wars is shelved for decades...
You have to keep in mind that all of this drama started with the judgmental stupidity of the "fans" in rejecting Lucas's original story plans in the first place, in response to which he gave up and sold it. The "fans" are directly responsible for this. If they didn't arrogantly think they knew better what Star Wars should be than the creator himself, we wouldn't be in this position. I do think that Lucas could have done a better job in handling it by sharing the actual history and spiritual principles behind Star Wars and what he was trying to teach with the last trilogy, as I've been thinking about doing with my own RUclips presence, but that doesn't excuse the "fans" from being self-absorbed arrogant idiots about it. The bottom line is: this was Lucas's story and he has a right to tell it how he chooses. In general, movie fans are way too rigid and judgmental about movies and stories, and way too ignorant of how much work and passion goes into creating a good story. The disrespect was shameful, and I think the supposed fans who didn't trust his vision and proven storytelling abilities owe him an apology.
I disagree about Luca's ability to handle any story execution anymore, but I agree that it's ridiculous that fandom has this collective amnesia about how they trashed Lucas just as badly as they now trash Disney.
@@zippymufo9765 Anymore? He stopped making public films years ago. We don't know what he's capable of anymore, though some of us know that Filoni and Favreau are consulting with him and doing their best to follow his original vision as well as they can with someone else holding their leash.
@Filmfan Johnny im probably the biggest star wars fan you'll meet and i havent seen nor will see Solo or The Last Jedi. Im not okay at all with their bullshit political stuff they keep pushing in the movies. Keep the SJW PC culture out of my star wars movies. I'll play Kotor 1&2, the real battlefront 2 and watch the prequels and originals all day every damn day but ill be damned if i ever rewatch TFA or even try to watch Solo or TLJ. TFA is a shitty remake of a new hope and the last jedi destroyed all the interesting things JJ had set up in TFA. I doubt ill watch another Star Wars media unless its made by Dave Filoni or its the Kenobi film, and only if that has Ewan McGregor playing Obi Wan again and they keep kathleen kennedys grubby sjw hands out of it. "THE FORCE IS FEMALE" shut the fuck up kathleen kennedy the force isnt a fucking sentient being its a god damn part of the entire fucking universe amd its not a fucking living thing its like gravity and atmospheres its just fucking there the damn sjw fucking cunt tries to SJW everything
This would not be a conversation if Rey had flaws like a normal person and the Anthology films used legends material instead of just rewriting the events between Episodes 3-4.
@@martinjrgensen8234 They actually should've just followed Lucas' _actual_ VII-IX story template. Why would you shut the creator of an IP out of the creative process??
It is more canonical then anything Disney makes because it's narratives were 'approved' by George Lucas. Thus they have more connection to the original creator and THAT is what defines cannon. People confuse canon with continuity, the former is defined by WHO made it, the later is a set of fictional history that is being used for derivative work.
I still love Star Wars, I always will. I love the originals and the prequels. I loved the Force Awakens and Rogue One. I only wish I could love the Last Jedi the way I loved the rest of Star Wars. But I can't because I feel like the Last Jedi spits in the face of everything that made Star Wars special, everything I loved about Star Wars. Believe me when I say I want nothing more than to love every Star Wars movie. But after walking out of the theater in December of 2017 feeling confused, betrayed, and saddened, I just can't. And that breaks my heart more than anything.
Make sense. You were somehow revolved in all of the movies you love (maybe with the exception of RO), but you were not at all present in The Last Jedi.
@@rokhamler3352 don't take this the wrong way but why are you here, cause you essentially like 15 percent of star war, just wondering as someone who likes everything except ep8, rebels, New canon comics and a little bit of 7.
I remember the day the last Jedi premiered world wide. There was excitement, people walked into the theater with so much anticipation that Was intoxicating. Then when everyone walked out, that excitement was gone. You just could feel this was the turning point in Disney Star Wars, going from excitement to complete apathy, and that hasn’t changed since
53:10 this is still such an out of touch response. We aren't mad because there is too much star wars, or it's coming too fast. Everyone who says that is an idiot and doesn't understand the problem. The real problem is the quality of these movies are in the gutter. The movies are designed to excite the audience on the first or even second viewing, but aren't well crafted enough to withstand discussion and later viewings. In basic terms, these movies are not at all reaching the standard of quality that Star Wars used to be known for. We don't have too much star wars. It's just that the star wars they're making really sucks. We wouldn't be complaining at all if they were awesome movies. Give me an awesome movie every year and I'll continue to go. But burn me like you burned me the last few times... Well, I'll show you what happens. You got but a taste of what is to come when Solo hit, and failed. I'm afraid the boycott will be quite operational when episode 9 arrives.
ikr....just make a good story about space adventure.....no feminists agenda, no hints on any sexual identity shit.....just....good.....space....adventure........story. THATS ALL!
Just do the Marvel test. All the BS the media spun can be discarded by that. "People don't want 5 months in between"... Yeah, sure, Black Panther and Infinity War say otherwise. Once a year just doesn't work! Yeah, Marvel once again proves you wrong. Maybe it's the quality? (Gets called racist sexist manbaby)
George Lucas: Where is Star Wars, is it safe, is it alright. Fans: It seems in your anger you sold it to Disney George: I couldn’t have. It was alive I felt it. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Tico: not fighting what you hate but saving what you love... Me: ok I just won't see #episodeIX and will do a family starwars week for episodes I, II, III, IV, V and VI 😉
Man I'm a star wars fan, and if it's star wars I'm fucking with it! Even the obliteration Han solo film. Episode 3 to me was by far the best and one of the greatest films of all time, ep 8 was deff the worse out of the Skywalker saga... But that's what they get for switching from Jj Abrams to some random ass guy, like he didn't kno what jj was planning for the trilogy and to expect him to take the trilogy in the same direction that Abrams had planned is blasphemy, Disney recognized that and went back to him to close out the saga.. I just wish they would've kept him for all 3 but the past is the past and I have faith he will do his best to finish this saga to his best ability. I just want to see the old republic and some R rated star wars trilogy's already, they need to do a trilogy on Revan that leads into a trilogy about Darth Nihilus or a trilogy about Abeloth
@@SiddarthaTB it was the worst star wars yet, rated worse then even Episode I by the fans. Currently fans have it at 44% on rotten tomatoes, though I'll admit a minority of those that saw it probably liked it, most did not, its failures hurt Solo, and will hurt Episode 9. There was a laundry list of problems with the plot whitch was B movie quality, but if you don't care about good plot and story and just want flashy effects theres always another Transformers movie coming out.
And to think, all of this could've been avoided if we just didn't hurt George's feelings. I suppose the saying is right, the path we take to avoid our destiny is the one we usually find it on.
@@davidlennyman444 Well, to be honest this is only what I've HEARD, maybe he sold it to retire, but I doubt it. People really hit him hard with words when the prequels came out.
He would have made 7,8,9 but the reviews from fan about 1,2,3 were horrible. So he said fuck it then your not getting shit from me anymore... then sold. Tristan is 100% correct. Lucas says this himself in interviews.
Episodes 7 and 8 are crap, but Rogue One and Solo are vastly superior to those godawful prequels. That being said, the only EXCELLENT Star Wars films are still the original three. They have spawned a 42-year media giant because they really are THAT GOOD.
KA12345 A1234 fr man I personally love the prequels. Maybe it’s just because I grew up with them but everyone has to admit episode 3 really made up for that trilogy. hopefully episode 9 does the same bc the last Jedi was horrible
Prequel-Original Saga: I Hear, a new apprentice (Disney), you have, California, or should I call you.......Darth Calius? California: Prequel-Original Saga, You Survived................. Prequel-Original Saga: Surprised? California: Your Arrogance BLINDS You, Prequel-Original Saga. Now, you will experience the full power of The Dark Side!
@@noahpickering9674 hmm, I won't put it all down to that. The movie market had a lot of Star Wars in it, the previous moives were good to average and solo didnt spark much interest for me, as trailers werent anything to shout about. Movie itself was average.
@@whitewall2253 fair enough he was talking about it from just the Star Wars fan base but it would be worth mentioning the general view of the movie for reference.
You know, Ashoka is actually a really good character and I'm sure many agree. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I have not watched the entirety og The Clone Wars or Rebels.
@Lord Of Vengeance You may want to rewatch the last arc of Season 5 in the Clone Wars. I'm pretty sure it wasn't her who saved the day, not to speak about her crumbled faith. Not to mention when her literal incompetence killed most of her wingmen. She might grew strong, but she's definitely not a Mary Sue.
@Lord Of Vengeance She is no Mary Sue half the time her overconfidence saw her beat like the 1st time she encounters General Griveious she was beat and had to retreat. Ventress was able to get the better of her too so most of the main enemies she faced were able to beat her. Sure she could cut up droids all day long but in no way was she over powered.
Nothing about employees from Lucasfilm shitting all over and attacking the fans on social media? This only added insult to the injury Star Wars took from the last jedi, and is definitely relevant to the state of SW in 2017, especially surrounding the release of Solo. Why didnt you mention it?
STAR WARS Go!! Lol if you tell me don't watch the movie if you don't like what we're pushing down your throat then i won't watch it. So yeah it's a pretty big deal and had nothing to do with our "hate". That is just an idiot argument from you.
@@Imperator666 yes because listening to out of context videos made by biased individuals is accurate, so i guess you agree that if you pay for a ticket for a film you are allowed harass and send death threats to the creators?, if not then your not the side of that video.
The problem with that is that even George Lucas considers the comics and novels fan fiction that he allowed people to profit from as long as he got a cut. He never consider the extended Universe as cannon Disney would have to contact Dark Horse and make deals. Which would never happen as some of the best directors have said, "Disney doesn't like giving people free range to do what them want". Even if K. Kennedy is fired that would hire someone like her.
Why do you people even care about what is cannon or not ? It doesn't change anything about the novels, comics and games. They haven't changed or disappeared the moment disney said they were doing their own thing. The stories we experienced haven't changed from good to bad. We can still get access to them. It's a good thing they made that decision. We get 2 parallel universes, opportunities for different stories for the same era. But of course disney fucked up with the movies . Hopefully the rest will be good.
Yes, the story is more important than the political correctness or racial/gender equality or the actors who are old now/dying/died. Why the directors don't understand this?!
The biggest thing the success of Vader: Shards of the Past demonstrates is that 'Star Wars Fatigue' is utter BS. We just don't want the deviant sexual garbage LucasFilm decides to cram down our throats. Also, Solo had 88% 'want to see' rating a week before it premiered. Then Kasdan put on twitter that Lando was supposedly pansexual and it was at 35% by the time it was released.
Your argument is that the content is sexual garbage it has to be the characters since the characters are the "sexual deviant garbage." So if they were male and said exactly the same things, it's a thought experiment, what makes the characters good in your opinion?
@@nielsjensen4185 The last time I checked, Lando is male (at least at the moment - Disney will probably change that in Episode 9) and clearly wants a sexual relationship with his droid. It doesn't matter if the character was male or female - that's sexual deviancy, plain and simple. (And before you bring it up, deviancy is defined as 'departing from the norm', and since way over half the people in the world are heterosexual, this is the correct application of the term.)
@@wetbanana4782 yeah she is probably the most hated star wars character ever, even worse than jar jar. While jar jar had some comedic function for kids rose was just horrible and ruined another character too. In my opinion jar jar isnt that bad, because you can ignore him pretty good and he doesnt have a huge impact on the story which rose definitly has.
@@kyrex1785 at least jarjar had a wild fan theory. But yeah i agree they just all together had poorly written up characters and the story just made no sense. Too many plot holes, disregarding the universes logic. Fuck i gotta calm myself again.
We hit a Million views! Thanks to everyone who watched this it was my first of many Star Wars documentaries, sorry about the annoying music was simply a rookie mistake due to rushing this documentary but I promise the next one will be even better! May the force be with you my friends!
I watched the video just after 1M views! And I really enjoyed it :D
Don’t worry it’s well put together.
ur "hardcore fans vs casual fans" thing kinda turns me off. sure some people r more vocal than others but in the end the split goes between fans and people ho never cared and saw one random movie. its an overal money grab this days and the "hardcore fans" that did introduce star wars to their kids and kept the fever alive r less and less interested. star wars was allways about entertainment and its getting less and less entertaining, both in movies and games.. facts..
@Jag5tarZ agreed, but the OG ones are Geat but the new ones are 50/50 there Great and also not so great
thnx for including SC reviews, u earned a sub
Disney: "YOU TURNED THEM AGAINST ME!"
Star Wars Fans: "You have done that yourself."
George Lucas: "you have done that yourself."
@@cyberchild7018 honestly I wouldn't be surpised if +Michael Connolly is right in this context. They would blame the fans for them ruining the franchise
Michael Connolly u serrated comment lmao u need more likes!
@@jakephreel I can't agree more, but I meant that Lucas was the one telling Disney that they're the ones.
George: "You were my brother Disney, your were suppose to help destroy the SJW's, not join them"
Disney: "I HATE'CH YOU!"
I don't like Disney, it's coarse.. and rough.. ruins everything..
Not like you
*Looks at copies of all the Prequels and Originals*
Disney lost the high ground.
Joe Scott and I still have the high ground. How civilized
Im sorry for what they did to your son
And it gets everywhere
Star Wars fans: "I don't like Rey."
Disney: _"oh wowwwwwww typical sexist Star Wars fans hating on strong female protagonists!1!!!"_
The same Star Wars fans: *love Ahsoka Tano, Princess Leia, Bo Katan, Asajj Ventress, Padme, Hera Syndulla, and many other female characters the same as they love the male ones.
Yeah, we don't hate female leads. We hate characters that don't have any effort behind them.
@@CataciousAmogusevic exactly
I got berated on Twitter for saying that exact same thing, and that Disney is forcing political opinions on Star Wars
@@blazingn86 yikes. Literally I'm positive most Star Wars fans don't mind female characters (in fact, characters like Ahsoka Tano or Princess Leia for example are some of the most popular characters in all of Star Wars) Disney is just calling us sexist to justify their inability to write decent plots and complex characters.
Honestly! Rey is a poorly written character that has a horrible character arc. She doesn't deserve to be in star wars, but of course whenever a man says that they are characterized as being sexist even though they just want good writing. NO ONE CARES IF THE MAIN CHARACTER IS FEMALE OR MALE IF THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD CHARACTER ARC NO ONE WILL LIKE THEM. Well, except for people who want to please the left... People just want good stories!Stop trying to bring politics into it! We need more Star Wars like The Clone Wars. I rest my case.
Fans: We don’t like Rey
Disney: You’re sexist and don’t like strong female characters
Ahsoka, Leia, and Padme: hold my beer
More like "Am I a joke to you?"
eyubeon aayla secura, luminara unduli, bariss offee, asajj ventress,
*boi*
@@kitsuneoffacade9120
Tenel Ka Djo, Jaina Solo, Mara Jade, Winter Celchu
NRubric EU should be canon
The Xenomorphian I agree
As Mark Hamil said “you need to think about the fans”
*Disney laughs*
DisnEAy: Lol, no
@Rikki Bennet i bet Jaba the hut is behind this!
@@reddeaddude2187 clever girl...
Fans have built better films than anything made by Disney for Star Wars. Darth Maul, Vader, and even some fan projects trying to turn Legacy of the Force novels into movies.
Disney: If it isn't in the original films, it's no longer canon.
Fans: Everything Disney Star Wars is not canon.
Fans matter more, so we win ;)
Maybe the problem is that the people in charge of the new star wars movies and games are prequel haters.
@@wafflestoast5228 their not prequel haters, there just star wars haters
@@wafflestoast5228 More likely the problem is that they weren't. At the time I would've called the prequels diabolical but that was fifteen years before I found out what the devil was _truly_ capable of.
The prequels were bad films, atrocious star wars films.
No one paid me any money to except their movies.
"Rian Johnson, a relatively unknown name to Star Wars Fans" Unfortunately we know his name now.
GiovanniPrince too well
I don't think he's a *bad* director but I do think he should've done a "Star Wars Story" ala Rogue One or Solo.
Ruin Johnson, Jar Jar Abrahms and Bad Reboot have fucked it all up.
Unfortunate to know the name of the director behind great films such as Brink and Looper? Shame :/
@Vino I have hopes Knives Out will at least give him a Wes Anderson appeal (saw it a few days ago at a film festival. It was great), but like Wes before him, TLJ pretty much guarantees working on more independent projects in the near future.
2:39 “most of the diehard fans feared that this would be too much Star Wars, and that the films would be horrible”
Well they weren’t wrong
"The force is female" *Yoda becomes dissappointed in Rey for 800 more years*
Female it is gay I am not
“A Mary Sue, you are. Well developed, you are not.”
The force is anything that becomes controversial.
SK4rf Rey has nothing to do about It, this is KK
@@icecreamisyummy8490 I know but it is kinda about star wars too so i dont see whats wrong with that
Nice synopsis, but you left out Disney attacking the fans who disliked TLJ, and Mark Hammill's months of dropping hints at his horror at working with Rian Johnson
he dropped hints since TFA that they were heading the hell direction
Is that Disney’s fault or Lucasfilms current management?
@@JRut99 Is Lucasfilms lack of character to protect its work from Disney. It's also Disney lack of vision and understanding of the franchise. Kennedy was to permissive with Bob Iger, she allowed him to treat Lucasfikm like it's Marvel Studios. Kennedy was in charge of chosing Jar Jar Abrams and Ruin Johnson, she was also not strong enough to protect Lucas involvement in the guidance of the new trilogy.
At the end Bob Iger took the fault, and declared that "it was too much, too fast". Kennedy said "We didn't realize this was not Marvel".
Nobody wants dysmay, as the stories are not align with the original 6 films, as they attacked the fandom and called light sabres, laser swords is unforgivable, as making a mockery of luke skywalkers whole brilliant films by George lucas? How to crash star wars into the floor FACT!!
@@FirstnameLastname-us7mx absolutely true 👍
Disney needs to be stoped, they own 40% of the film industry atm
thats wild
And ironically Walt Disney himself fought against the studios for more independent producers back in the 50s
I wonder what Walt would think after seeing what a monster Disney has become... 😢
I don't know. History and National Geographic are perhaps the two companies that Disney has a reason to sell but either way, they should've been stopped decades ago after spending more than 3 decades of going really cheap in the live-action department to the point where nobody even cares about most of their live-action movies before 2000. Do you guys even realize that?
Smolby You may just get your wish. Keep an eye on the possible but out of Disney by Apple. Google it. Was just very recently & yes it has alot to do with the virus, virtually no one is going to movie theaters and not very many were before Corona Virus. Disney is well aware of the hatred for there films and they're finally getting it. It also has to do with their purchase of 21 St century Fox for which they had to pay over 30 billion if not more for and really, As farcas lucrative franchises go that Disney could capitalise on, there just aren't many there, aside from the 2 Alien & Planet of the Apes who's last entries didn't even make back their production costs so, it's for real & I hope it happens because if you thought what they did to star Wars was bad, wait until you see a Disney produced Alien film
@@chadwick4517
Most Alien movies got bad ratings from what I gathered and it's clear that people don't want anymore Alien films anyway. Plus, it's not like there's a possibility of toning down the violence because they *know* they'll get lots of hate if they do and the latest Predator movie remained R-rated. Case in point, people will want Disney to go R-rated because they especially expect thatt in Alien.
Jedi: Fallen Order:
Good
Mandalorian:
Good
Clone Wars:
Good
Rise of Skywalker:
...
We don't talk about that one.
"Rey is a Mary Sue"
If these kids could read they'd be very upset with you!
*points at KK, JJ Abrams, RIAN Johnson and SJW*
It was terrible, rushed, stupid, illogical and ruined the very cause the original and prequel trilogies exist.
TRoS relied too much on fan service to tug on our heart strings. I'll admit, I actually liked it on first viewing, but looking back on it, the story and overall payoff was not good
What about the prequels?
I agree about the rise of Sky-Zombie
Jedi: Fallen Order sucked as far as I'm concerned. Ya, lets have a SW game that glitches you right out of the game, over and over, has so little combat that you may as well not have a lightsaber at all, with such terrible game mechanics that you end up throwing your controller out the window, in frustration because you can't do anything properly. Oh boy, where do I sign up for THAT beta? The fact is, they ignored what the fans wanted, which was a TRUE sequel to battlefront 2, and 1313. But noo, they had to cancel those. Hell, they even sued the makers of the KotOR update, killing any chance we had of getting that. They didn't care what we wanted, and when they DID try to give us something (they thought) we wanted (TROS), they failed miserably with that too.
And TCW, they only made 1 season of that. They can hardly be credited with ANYTHING to do with that one, except giving us 1 season of a show that they realized they never should have cancelled in the first place. A better example would have been Rebels. It's not nearly as good as TCW, but it had it's charms. Personally, I only liked the first 2 seasons, then I was done with it.
“Did you ever hear the tragedy of The Last Jedi? I thought not. It's not a story George would tell you. It's a Rian legend. The Last Jedi was a dark piece of political and cultural subversion, so powerful and so wise it thought it could use the Franchise to influence the fandom to create everlasting riches… It had such knowledge of the dark side that it could even make the iconic characters they so cared about easily die. The dark, subversive side of the Franchise is a pathway to many narratives some consider to be unnatural. It became so powerfully hated … the only thing it was afraid of was losing money, which eventually, of course, Solo did. Unfortunately, George gave his apprentice everything he created, and then his apprentice killed it in his sleep. Ironic. George spent 40 years breeding a Golden Goose then sold it to a butcher.”
*clap clap clap* that was awesome!
munstrumridcully Preach!
Handclap
this has to be posted to prequel memes
Is it possible to learn this power?
"Rian Johnson received so much praise for his work on the film-"
What!?
"-From Kathleen Kennedy and others at Lucasfilm."
Oh, gotcha.
Rian DID receive heaps of praise from most critics and audiences.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932
Look, I don't wanna get into the conspiracy theory that Disney paid off critics to leave glowing reviews of the movie...
But it's a helluva lot more plausible than Russian bots and trolls destroying the reputation of a great movie because it has women in it.
There were millions of people who saw the movie. Roughly half of those who saw it thought it was good and gave no more thought to it.
I can't find a Star Wars fan open to dialogue that doesn't think letting Rian get close to the script was a mistake, though.
We could have had a great script to go with the fantastic visuals. The directing Rian did is top-notch if you mute the TV.
@@eras1066 OK, the Russian trolls thing does sound suspect. (Great username, by the way.)
@@eras1066 it's legit bruh I remember looking at ratings for the movie when it came out and they were in the low 20s from audience and then 50k reviews got deleted to bump up the rating. Same shit happened to captain marvel
It can be a good movie, if it has some connection with the previous movie. I personally think letting different directors handling the same trilogy is not a good move
How to ruin a franchise.
1. Sell to Disney
2. Sell to EA
1. In Cinemas
2. PCs XBox PS.
EA Battlefront 1 wasnt good, it was ok not good
EA Battlefront 2 too overhyped, was not good at launch, great currentlly due to Dice fighting for it with adding new stuff all the time
Storm I love the old battlefront 2 that was my childhood man
@@maxdavis897 k
@@M9Jenko marvel wasnt sold to EA
I'll NEVER forgive Disney for how they totally degraded and treated hero Luke Skywalker and completely ignored Anakin. Disney SW simply isn't Canon to me.
Damn right as far I'm concerned star wars ended at six just like terminator ended at two
I also believe what you believe sir.
My feelings exactly
If rumors are to be believed, the whole sequel trilogy won't be cannon to Disney either if all goes to plan hehe >:)
Timothy Zahn wrote the Thrawn trilogy which is still better than the Fraud Awakens by a few million times.
Rey: “I’m a skywalker”
Fans: so it’s treason then
WE are the Senate!
Cito Gonzalez the council will make its own mind who is a skywalker, not Kathleen Kennedy
This comment made me laugh way to hard lol
I love democracy
AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHRRR! 🔃🔃🔃🔃
"[D&D] were certainly talented"
Oh, oh... that claim didn't age well...
Honestly shitting myself for the D&D and Johnson trilogy 🙈
Well Kennedy selected them. What did you expect?
That woman certainly knows how to recognize talent...
@@electricdreams8237 I hope nobody tells her that D&D are MEN.
D&D are talented, they directed all of GoT after all, it's just that after they got word that Disney were offering that sweet sweet cash they peace'd out of GoT and dropped the series, that's why the last 2 seasons are rushed beyond belief, they wanted to get started on the Star Wars money boat as soon as possible. They're not bad writers or directors, they're bad people.
Hopesedge No, GOT went downhill after D&D ran out of source material.
I didn't even intentionally boycott Solo, I just forgot it existed. And I'm a huge Star Wars fan.
well it wasn't Star Wars so....
Honestly, I didn't forget. I just have some other things to deal with at the time instead.
I didnt see it because Solo is Harrison Ford, not some rando.
Exactly. You don't need an actual boycott. There's so much entertainment nowadays, you just need a lack of enthusiasm and that'll do it.
@bla blahblah lol oh he could be an awesome actor but naw, not down for them to write him like that and then be portrayed in such a way...just like what's happened with several of the other characters...it's a darn shame.
I remember watching the first two films of the sequels and thinking “You know, they aren’t the best, but you know, i’ll take it. Wasn’t expecting much since it’s coming from Disney.” Then when Rise of Skywalker came out and I had a friend come to me telling me he was about to spoil it against my wishes, but I would be grateful in the end. He told me Palpatine survived the 2nd death star and I kinda laugh and thought he was joking...
The original trailer for TRoS literally reveals Palpatine is back lols...
@ImOnIt4272 I watched TRoS for the Y-Wing
"D&D are good writers." said no one after season 8 GOT.
yep.
The only problem was that it was rushed which wasn't it's fault. No the ceo of disney didn't write the sequels Lucasfilm did. Everyone was gonna hate the sequels they literally said before they made them its gonna suck and that's final.
"D and D", and "GOT" Writers? Speak English please.
@@NuclearNuke41 because you don't know the terminology doesn't mean they aren't speaking English
@@thebossmana I know they are acronyms, but how do I know they are English acronyms? She also expects everyone to know what they are too.
The fans did not turn on Star Wars, the fans turned on Disney, and their version of Star Wars. They destroyed it.
THIS COMMENT! WOW! Spoken like a true philosopher 10/10 congrats :)
the fans turned on Star Wars and George Lucas with prequels since that
Your my friend are now the best person
Yes, to me Star wars never failed me eve the prequels, but since the Evil Mouse took over Star wars has been going down a downward spiral.
AGREED Michael
Kathleen: he is very important to the saga
Mark hamil-literally Luke skywalker: WELL THATS GOOD TO HEAR
I swear he gonna get assassinated by a Disney hired bounty hunter
When All of California is SUS..........
@@SevereWeatherQuester2005 wha??
You put a lot of time and effort into this video. Great job man.
Glad you enjoyed it! Congratulations on 100k
Duck off
@@StarWarsOnly Thanks man
I'm very impressed with you video , it does a good job of being fair.@@StarWarsOnly
Coming to you with another videoooooooooooooooo
Even Mark Hamill hated Last Jedi
Sure, reality can be whatever you want it to be.
@@Clay3613 that is the reality, he was constantly trying to tell people the movie wasn't going to be good.
Clay3613 i meann, watch any of his NUMEROUS interviews. you cannot tell me he liked it.
@@Clay3613 I think you're the one not living in reality bro. Go watch the many many interviews he had talking about how he didn't like the movie and what they did to Luke Skywalker.
@@ThatGuy76985 Yes, because clickbait taken out of context is truly what Mark Hamill thinks.
I'm afraid the boycott will be quite operational when Episode 9 arrives.
Nostalgia Works
Disney: you underestimate my powers!
The fans: Don’t try it!
Luke Huizenga JJs only talent is nostalgia-bait and plagiarism.
Disney : *Releases Sequels*
Fans : Brave, But foolish..
@@FirstnameLastname-us7mx shut the fuck up
I'm boycotting too, @Nostalgia Works
THE LAST JEDI WAS A GOOD MOVIE???!? Is that what I just heard? My poor ears, I don’t have enough insurance to fix the damage done to them.
It was a bad Star Wars movie for sure. But a far better and creative one than the 2 giant turds made by JJ Abrahams...
@Mustiboi Salman There is a different between liking something and thinking that something is objectively good or not. I like alot of movies that are badly made and not into good movies like the Shining or Jaws
@@MoreAwsomeMetal that's objectively false. Last Jedi made Force Awakens worse by creating plot holes it also copied Empire to a T and had the most contrived scenes in the series
I wanna see proof that Force Awakens is nearly as offensive as Last Jedi
Here is the thing Many people were in denial that episode 8 was bad. Basically they were in stage one of grief, no way Disney could a bad Star Wars even no way Disney could make a movie this bad. That what was happening. I didn't help that the media is a bunch a payed sheels glorifying it.
Anyone saying they liked The Last Jedi. Is in Denial(or still has rose tinted glasses on), A fucked Sheel, or just likes stuff other people hate.
It is a good individual movie, bad middle movie of a trilogy. Rise of Skywalker is the only shit movie in the Sequels. The main issue is that they never had a plan and let each director do their own thing, a recipe for disaster.
Remember Gorge lucas probably sold star wars to Disney because of all of the hate on him after the prequles
Fans really got what they deserved.
Its funny now that a crowd of people can apreciate the phantom menace now. I never hated any of the films when they came out when i was young. I thought this was pretty cool stuff! I loved thar robot with the one eye!
I loved the Prequels. I never ever understood the hate on them.
@@southdakotan5711 same man, same
Is there an interview or something he said about this? I'd really like to know.
Star Wars producers: "We will not be digitally recreate Princess Leia."
In other words, they will definitely digitally recreate Leia...
Subvert your expectations!
@@FirstnameLastname-us7mx they did, haven"t you seen the Episode 9 teaser? Rey hugs CGI Leia at around 1:34 timestamp
And they didn't just used deleted scenes from Force Awakens
They've done it once.
They'll do it again.
After all, they do enjoy 'Subverting our Expectations' (To sell toys)
Well, they did use a CGI Leia in Rogue One.
What's wrong with giving fans what they want?
Andrew Pytko I suppose it makes us entitled or something? Man, if they had only handled things with the fans better....
Andrew Pytko because the problem is they’re not ☹️
The thing is us fans didnt want EVERYTHING catered to us when it came to this sequel trilogy. Just one thing Disney could have done for us, treated the OT characters with respect and not use them as somekind of social message in the movies.
They could have given us ONE scene showing Luke, Leia and Han all meeting up, on screen for one last time, a "reunion" and there would not hve been all the backlash there is now.
Andrew Pytko Nothing, actually I don’t think any execs understand this. Rogue one proved that fan service can be successful, yet they haven’t learned it. They don’t understand that letting a directly say fuck you I wanna make my own movie to an entire fan base is not a good idea, and it forced Solo to flop and now they’re paying for it
Because we haven’t gotten it yet.
Disney: *delays episode 8 to "make it better"*
Fans after seeing it: *looks at Rian Johnson* "kill him, kill him now"
DEW IT
Jack ABoi He was too stupid to be kept alive...
@@stardustskywalker7327 Unlimiteddd, POWERRRR
DEW IT!
DEW IT!
If we hated the sequels because Rey was a girl, we wouldn't have boycotted Solo
George originally planned to have a female lead for the sequels too.
@@theajayyy - yeah, and she may have had an actual Character too.
Weston Robinson can’t we just have one male lead and one female lead
@@danielb.3515 - can't we just have good movies regardless of the sex of the leads?
Weston Robinson but if there was then maybe we could find some common ground
The most heart breaking part of all this is how crushed mark Hamill is. Disney got his hopes up that he would reprise one of the most iconic roles in movie history only to crush his dreams by ruining his character
Just the name “skywalker” sounds so badass. Shame on all of them. Even george lucas for handing his own life’s work completely over to a bunch of nutcases
I did feel sorry for him but Mark has turned out to be such a Twat , he hates me cause I dare hold different Political opinions to him.
Seems like a horrible human.
Please stop with this bullshit. Mark is fine.
@@Ihavehadmanynames7779just reminding you the reason George Lucas handed his work over is because of the “fans” ironic isn’t it?
Not to mention the 50.000 plotholes that completely break any continuity in TLJ. Nothing in this movie holds itself to any established rules. I was suprised Frodo didn't show up
SoulSc0rcher I recommend watching the CinemaWins video on TLJ.
STFU about TLJ already, it was a good movie. A lot of people think so, no need to jump on the band wagon
You can like it as much as you want. All the more power to you. It's still a bad movie that makes no sense and seeing how you know about the "bandwagon", then you also know the solid arguments being made for it's massive gaping holes and nonsensical story. I'll shut up about it the moment people actually acknowledge it's bad, but they still like it. There's movies that are bad that I like as well. I'm not gonna pretend they're great movies tho.
@@Souledge5 Except all the critics seemed to like it just fine....but not the ultra toxic fan base apparently. Let me guess, Disney bought all those reviews right? How about its score on cinemascore? You know the review site which asks people to rate the movie right when the leave the theater on opening day...yeah sitting at a solid "A". It has 91 percent on rotten tomatoes and 85 on metacritic (which averages all critic scores). You know the first week before all this toxic crap flooded the internet, TLJ had phenomenal user reviews as well. When I went, (on the 3rd day it was out), people clapped at the end. So don't give me that bullshit. People stopped enjoying the movie cause they went into it expecting to hate it. Idk if you know who Ben Shapiro is, but he is known for being a fairly impartial judge of pretty much anything. He didn't like TLJ, yet was able to come up with so many positive aspects of the film. However, every comment I see is like yours- over-dramatic, bandwagon on the hate train BULLSHIT. Frankly its easily one of the better star wars movies, especially when you consider Rian Johnson had to write this movie after that dumpster first, hot pile of garbage that was TFA. Haha and if you don't think EVERY single star wars movie has gaping plot holes (and some way worse than TLJ) then you are deluded.
@@emperormouse5487 it was not, TLJ broke star wars in many places(bending/tearing the established rules of the universe), TLJ didn't answer anything about The force awakens and basically didn't follow certain rules for movie making. TLJ is/was a bad movie, it's a simple fact.
Kathleen Kennedy says that the old starwars was mostly men but what about female leads like Princess Leia and Padmé Amidala
The original trilogy mostly focused on Luce Skywalker although the sequel trilogy was going to focus on Princess Leia.
Everyone hated on the prequels and now look where that got us. Go back and watch the prequels and you'll see they don't deserve half the criticism they got.
The fans who were butthurt about how bad the prequels were are the reason George sold Lucasfilm to Disney. We can thank them for fuking Star Wars in the first place.
I still don't like ep1, the other two however are pretty enjoyable, despite the clumsy dialogues...
Prequels bad sequels bad.
Prequels are still bad though
Keep whining on about how the Prequels are perfect movies and how you "Never understood the hate they got" because you were a kid.
Jesus. I never actually internalized how completely and ruthlessly Disney demolished my faveourite franchise before I saw your video.
And I'm still only at 9:32
Yeah I cried so hard that robot chicken couldn't make a Star Wars show....GTFO
Truly sucks
Didn't notice this is almost an hour long when I clicked on it.
I regret nothing.
The last Jedi was a garbage of a movie.
True. But TFA and especially TROS were the bottom of the pit. JJ Abrahams is a complete fraud in the cinema industry...
@@MoreAwsomeMetal True, and remember: the whole Sequel Trilogy is garbage.
@@Sergeant_Camacho can we just agree that the sequels aren't part of star wars
@@Nigga.69 Yeah, we should just pretend the sequels dont exist and look forward to Favreu and Filoni, they will fix the franchise I assure you. Hope is a theme in Star Wars and is fans must have it so Star Wars may rise again into a good franchise, forget the sequels existed and remain positive for the future.
@@Nigga.69 absolutely!
Disney buys star wars: "Okay great guys look at all this expanded universe, why don't we-"
Kathleen Kenedy: "Burn it"
And here we all felt that Jar Jar was gonna be the worst most brainless character ever created but no, turns out we didn't even need to create a fictional moron as the real world clearly outdoes any fictional nonsense we can imagine
Ohhhhmygawwwwd lmaoooo so true
Lmfao the eu was a glorified cash grab and fan fiction
@@shawnschaitel838 Ha! Okay then go back to your tiny indie company disney and get ur fill of useless feminist propaganda
"the ability to make money doesn't make you intelligent"
@@merikmalhads1676 even if and when george lucas made his ST he was going to throw it out
Meaninf people were going to be but hurt regardless
Did you know the first thrawn trilogy ws largrly used by vlucas as test market to se if. Anyone was still onterested in star wars so he couls justify making the PT films
"The Last Jedi was so good it got a whole new trilogy!"
*Literally going to pretend it isn't the most hated movie next to The Rise of Skywalker that literally had a petition signed by millions of fans to not exist in the cannon universe*
Brantopias where can I sign this petition
Brantopias no seriously where can we sign the damn petition.
Where can I find this petition you speak of?
Tell me where.
I must sign.
It's on change.org, a website dedicated to petition anything
I still don't get the hate on the prequels. I loved them, always will.
They weren’t great but at least the contributed to the lore.
@@DH-fu7bx to each their own✌
Attack of the Clones had some issues
@derajalen I've never had a problem with Jar Jar or little Anakin, but I understand why others do. All that other stuff, I agree!
One name: Jar Jar Binks...
The force has NO GENDER, it’s a mystic form of magic.
This is the way!
legit
Not to Disney it's all about dumb strong female
Disney executed order 66 by claiming the Vader fan film
they gave it back, but it is up to people whether they forgive or not
@@Banana_Zach did they really? Surprised the greedy corporation did not double down on "man-babies" 🤣
To me, they executed Order 66 with TLJ, TFA was just to hook us and make money at the theaters for their next project so they could do the deed with TLJ, imo.🤢 Well, WE have "the high ground" now. 😠 So, they're gonna keep KK for another 3 yrs. huh? 🤦🏾♀️ Well, that'll be another 3 yrs. of money loses then. 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾🤣🤣🤣
WillFanofMany ya, Disney stepped in and said like undo what you have done.
Vader goes to anger management?!😹
I WOULD HAVE PREFERED NO SEQUALS OVER THIS.
Preferred*
Sequels*
The funny thing is we don't need the Sequels for pretty much anything good in the series lately except for one neat little twist to start the later part of Fallen Order.
I personally never wanted a sequel trilogy, ROTJ ended the saga perfectly
NoChill you can go watch Deputy dog
you see, the fans are what's wrong with star wars, not the movies the fandom. people can't accept or appreciate these new films. if fans didn't drive Lucas up the wall he would have made the sequel trilogy. we made the death bed now we need to sleep in it.
Kathleen Kennedy has no idea about Starwars and should have never been the lead person.
Just another example of a female getting an undeserved job on account of being female just so a mega corporation can appeal to their SJW audience for some reason. Also she can't be fired for her quite frankly, disgustingly offensive incompetence, because that would be sexist.
@@TheBigEmstos Fucking fire her or she's gonna be taken care of in uncivilized means.
@@protogensvisiontimelost254 What's your problem?
@@sprodersprack4257 She fucking sucks.
Classic Trials Channel AND THATS A FACT
i honestly really dislike how they have made star wars into more of a confusing comedy than an actual serious and full franchise
Kathleen Kennedy has completely ruined star wars
100%
Kathleen Kennedys didn't ruin star wars she was only sucking Disneys dick as all she is a puppet.
Jaiw, Disney has become her puppet now... no I’m not happy about it.
Disney reminds me of the CCP in China...😂😂😂 they think they knew what the public wanted but instead they just killed it without a care in the world but trying to bring in the money and now no one believes them anymore so it’s gonna be hard to do business in the future...it’s only the brainwashed die hard Star Wars fans that think anything after the force awakens film is good (which it wasn’t that good to be fair anyway but I was excited to see what they had to offer!) and now all I’m thinking to myself is that I don’t want to hand over my money to them anymore with their shit products....it’s such a shame to the fans and will never be the same again 😔 RIP Star Wars
Rip Lucasfilms you make some good shit but its over now sad
All I want is Disney to admit that they made an awful Star Wars movie. That's all I want. Stop making excuses for why we hate it. We are not bots, sexist, or racist. We are fans that are upset with a bad movie with plot holes and bad characters. And don't lash out at your fans for their criticism (but toxic criticism IS way worse than TLJ). Me personally I liked TFA and RO, but this was awful. TLJ ruined TFA because of these. I saw this along with 30 friends all for free (church camp trip) and we felt bad for the person who bought all of our tickets. Even Mark Hamill seemed worried about TLJ. He looked so sick whenever he was asked about his opinion of TLJ. He constantly stated he didn't see this Luke as the Luke that we grew up with. I'm sorry Disney. I really want to like this movie but I can't and i don't know if i will see 9. could give a whole list why I hated it but I'll try to keep that to myself. All I want is just a simple sorry and for us to move on.
And I'm sorry Kelly Marie Tran for all the hate you got for Rose Tico. Hopefully Disney gets you a movie to redeem yourself. You did your best with what they gave you. Hate the movie not the player
Citation still needed on the hate on Kelly. It's been 9 months now and we still have zero evidence anything even took place. Makes it seem SO legit.
ClassyRanger Literally everything you just said.... is right.
This is just straight truth.
I fully agree, all I really want, all it would really take for me to be on board with seeing episode 9 would be admitting that they had done something wrong and apologizing for it, because otherwise I can't believe that they aren't going to continue doing what they did wrong in the first place because obviously if they don't think that they did anything wrong they aren't going to stop doing it, it's in The Last Jedi, failure is an amazing teacher however it is only a teacher if you recognize your failure and try to avoid repeating it in the future
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ClassyRanger
Damn right! But sorry, that will be a bit longer...
My interest to see Episode 9 is ZERO! But do not expect any apology from Disney. That would make them lose face and admit that they do not know what to do with the Star Wars brand. Disney remains Disney. Do not tease and whitewash everything family friendly. Therefore, I also believe that they wanted to deliberately break with TLJ with the old fanbase, which has always been enthusiastic for a rougher Star Wars with clear role distributions. Humor yes, but no kid-friendly slapstick for its own sake. But thats what Disney want. The old fanbase, grown up with the old trilogy, the Dark Horse Comics and many books, are just only a burden for Disney.
Disney don't need a fanbase that analyzes every aspect of a new product, in every detail. They only wan't stupid consumers who ask nothing behind.
And i think, Kelly Marie Tran has not just a bad role, she also played it miserably, because the role of Rose Tico does not fit into the story at all, but only serves as a placeholder to teach the audience morally. But thats RJs main misstake, and not Kelly's.
There were certainly a few critics who crossed the line to racism and sexism. That was by no means the majority, but it stuck in the public debate about TLJ. The problem is that Disney has lumped all the fans together and did not even begin to differentiate.
It was as if Disney had been waiting to attack the fanbase with baseless insinuations.
To cut a long story short, RJ ignored the foundations of TFA, sabotaged JJA's work, and unleashed a gender debate that fanbase never led.
In my 30 years with SW, I have never cared for gender roles. Up to TLJ...
The film tried to preach "equality" with the mallet method. And here comes the point where it becomes unrealistic ...
Describing fans as sexists who criticize roles such as Holdo and Rose, but love Leia at the same time and mourn the death of Carrie Fisher, almost show's how insensitive and narcissistic Disney is at times.
Back at the topic, Disney seems to want to dispose of the old fanbase by offending them and praising only the positive criticism of casual Star Wars consumers who found TLJ good.
By now I'm at a point where Disney's acting for me has absolutely method. The SW-EU is no longer considered a canon, is the strongest proof for me, that Disney wants to tear down all the foundations of the old fanbase to transform Star Wars into a product that works at any time for 6 year old Kids.
There is no interest in grayscale in the SW universe. Black and white sells better, especially among the younger crowd.
Star Wars has been guiding me all my life, but after TLJ i have enough of Disney's interpretation of Star Wars.
The only thing that still arouses my interest, is The Mandalorian, but as soon as even once, childish slapstick for 6 year old Kids in it, or any moral instruction finds in it, I am finally out of Disneys SW.
Well wasn't this just DEPRESSING to watch.
mr. plinkett: jj aka jar jar mystery box abbrams is the worst thing to happen to star wars since the birth of my son
I wonder if that poor guy who said he watched episode 3 at the same spot he is watching episode 7 at 10 years later with his sons after missing one of their births gave up on the franchise after episode 8...cause good god...poor dude..in one way you feel bad cause its just pure joy and hope and excitement and I hope he wasn't let down but in another way its kinda funny cause while loyalty matters its why we don't get better quality cause these media people know idiots will eat up anything with the name brand on it even if its low quality sadly and make as much money as they want off these fools without proving the right service and its an endless loop
@ThesuvW NO YOU
Yep
That’s for sure, it killed me to rewatch Disney destroying the EU
The level of mismanagement of Star Wars under Disney has been so bad it's kind of hard to believe. This is the biggest franchise in the history of pop culture and they decided it would be a good idea to go into a new trilogy with no plan and the audacity to pull the plug on the old extended universe.
The Last few minutes are my personal favorite, so if you find yourself needing to skip to the end 55:14 is a good place to start.
Thanks for watching everybody
Well done video. Enjoyed it
You did great on this one, it was worth the wait.
Thank you
StarWarsOnly hopefully last Jedi fans won’t spin this documentary in a negative light
Amazing job with this. Really worth the wait. Let’s hope 2019 can bring balance to the fandom.
Episode 9 failed, Fire Kathleen Kennedy
itwS okaY
@@noahowenst say that to its box office results
dark destoroyah metal wolf 468 yeah you’re right
@@dragonflamefilms5401 I saw it too and I think it is shit. I guarantee you all that money would go back if refunds were given
@@MartinJHenebury Yep but Disney would never give up their money why...CAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT
Me when I find out clone wars is on Disney+ :
*YO HO YO HO A PIRATES LIFE FOR ME*
Ahoy! I too will raise the ol' Jolly Roger and plunder episodes!
You are A PIRATE!
Not me matey, The Last Jedi made me despise Star Wars so much I don't even bother to pirate their stuff anymore
All you ought remember this as the day you ALMOST caught captain jack sparrow
Ultimate Heresy man ye battle stations
If there is anything you need to learn, it’s that if you ever own a really successful film company, don’t sell it to Disney. They will infamously screw it up.
The best thing Disney has ever done for Star Wars was renewing The Clone Wars, which they themselves killed off in the first place.
The second best thing they could do is allow Turner Broadcasting and Adult Swim to air the entire Star Wars: Clone Wars micro-series on Toonami on Adult Swim for one night only in December.
@@keelychow4569 I doubt they would put anything on Adult Swim, due to it being a part of cartoon network.
Ya cant wait to see a clone trooper say "oh gosh darn it" instead of "what the hell" fuck disney and fuck star wars pebbles
The only good things of Disney Star Wars: Rogue One, Rebels, season 7 of cw, and the Mandalorian
Rebels was just a watered down, more kiddish version of Clone wars.
I like Mandalorian, but it’s definitely overrated
I liked force awakens
The last 5 minutes of rogue one being badass don't make it a good movie 😁
Rebels was kinda cool but solo?
I wasn't too pleased with TFA, since it went in a direction I didn't really like, but it still made me interested to see what would happen in the next installment
TLJ made me feel insulted to be a Star Wars fan after watching it
**Que Skywalker drinking blue alien titty milk**
Agreed, at least it did feels like SW. I did not like the story and characters.
@@RobimusPrime I don't know in what universe the last Jedi felt like Star Wars, I left that movie thinking I walked into wrong room.
Where was the comradely adventure? only adventure I got was rose and fin(?) who's entire arc was useless and unnecessary waste of time. You can take that entire arc out of the movie and you wouldn't miss anything and save 30 min.
TFA felt too much like a rehash of A New Hope. It's only enjoyable enough from the fanservice of the older characters. The Last Jedi felt like a high budget Spaceballs but with humor that falls flat
I didn’t feel insulted to be a Star Wars fan, I just felt sad that anything new from Star Wars from that point on would never again bring me the excitement, joy, and anticipation I felt about anything prior.
Disney was one of the studios that turned down Star Wars back when George Lucas was trying to make the first one. Now that its a success they want it, and in a strange twist it has not been successful for them. Maybe they shouldn't have trashed George's outline for the sequels and ignored the rest of the EU stories and projects.
Disney: You turned the fandom against me!
Fans: you have done that yourself.
When you're happy with Disney that they're bringing Clone Wars back even though they were the ones that took it from you in the first place.
"You have allowed this dark lord to twist your mind."
REVENGE OF THE FANS
STOLEN! you stole the comment from someone on the same video, with 274 likes. Just scroll down and you'll find the OC
@Overkill XJ LOL "Where did we go wrong."
These are sociopathic narcissists. They don't think this way.
@Overkill XJ LOL "Where did we go wrong."
These are sociopathic narcissists. They don't think this way.
George Lucas once said "Star wars is really all about Anakin. It starts when he is a 9 year old boy, and ends when he dies". That is also my Star Wars. I loved the ending to "Return of the Jedi", but with the new movies, they make the ending seem so unimportant. If you ask me, that is.
He also originally planned nine movies and decided after episode 3 not to do the final 3 movies
Amalie Skjoldaa dont worry the rise of Skywalker will make things clear to you
David Lafond he but he told JJ Abrams what they were gonna be , you'll see in episode 9
@@bodiecollection I wouldn't be surprised if these were the movies he planned on making in the beginning, which was my original point
@ Amalie Skjoldaa. Agreed!!!
Just let Mark Hamill direct future Star Wars films. He listens to his fans.
A MAN??? You horrible sexist.
@@television1088 and a straight guy too??? What a shame...
@@television1088 Not even transgender, how bad
drunkenWilli ive been begging for that to happen!!! please disney!! come on!!!
Thomas Ley geaorge lucas was a fan. thats what made the movies so good. he made the movie because it was something he wanted to see himself.
Wow I just relieved several years of emotions and frustrations in under an hour. Great job Dude!
As a casual Star Wars movie fan, I can safely say that The Last Jedi killed my entire interest in Star Wars. I’ll just stick with the OT. This is a sad time.
Completely agree. I went from being so hyped for the future of one of my favorite franchises to not giving a shit about it. I'll never forgive Disney
Unfortunately can totally agree with you. I have zero interest in rewarding Disney/KK for carefully dismantling the franchise into an unlovable entity.
TLJ is an awful, awful story. I love the sets, the FX, the acting, the costumes.
The story is just awful, awful, awful.
@@jumhed994 the story also deconstructs the entire story that came before it and shits all over it
The last jedi is awful. I hate it, and it ruined my love for Star Wars too. The fact it’s canon is insulting. I’m sticking with the Gearge era films
I feel bad for Mark Hamil, a phenomenal actor being so misused. It reminds me of Hayden Christensen. Bad writing
At least Hayden has that Mustafar duel.
@Nickolas Schneider I hate it. I want to slaughter everyone that made it, not only the men, but the women and children too
the thing is Hayden Christensen isnt a bad actor. I guarantee they forced him to play it that dead and horribly. Go watch him in jumper. He's interesting and fun. Yes its not the deepest movie in the world but he does a good job in it. In SW he walked around with a stick up his ass looking annoyed with life and talking in a bizarre emotionless fake-deep voice
@@charlesreid9337 I never said he was a bad actor, I'm saying he is was misused like Mark Hamil
@Nickolas Schneider *coarse
Since George Lucas sold his company to Disney they have:
Shut down the fan loved and financially successful Clone Wars.
Shut down the financially successful Star Wars games division which were producing a game that through hype alone was guaranteed to be a success.
Released two god awful sequels which are so bad that fans have realised that the prequels are actually GOOD now.
Released several animated successors which have largely been rejected as regurgitated crap by the community.
Released SOLO, an alright film that was destroyed by fan rejection of the chaotic practices of Disney.
What's next? How much longer will they continue to insist and destroying our beloved franchise before they just give up and Star Wars is shelved for decades...
You forgot about nuking The EU
Wanderer628 Don’t forget that they confirmed and even got a director for a Boba Fett film, and then decided to cancel it
@Dovahgatr After they realised that the fans are getting annoyed
You forgot the battlefront mess
@@Phaileen001 That ain't on Disney's part. That's just good old EA being themselves.
You have to keep in mind that all of this drama started with the judgmental stupidity of the "fans" in rejecting Lucas's original story plans in the first place, in response to which he gave up and sold it. The "fans" are directly responsible for this. If they didn't arrogantly think they knew better what Star Wars should be than the creator himself, we wouldn't be in this position.
I do think that Lucas could have done a better job in handling it by sharing the actual history and spiritual principles behind Star Wars and what he was trying to teach with the last trilogy, as I've been thinking about doing with my own RUclips presence, but that doesn't excuse the "fans" from being self-absorbed arrogant idiots about it.
The bottom line is: this was Lucas's story and he has a right to tell it how he chooses. In general, movie fans are way too rigid and judgmental about movies and stories, and way too ignorant of how much work and passion goes into creating a good story. The disrespect was shameful, and I think the supposed fans who didn't trust his vision and proven storytelling abilities owe him an apology.
I disagree about Luca's ability to handle any story execution anymore, but I agree that it's ridiculous that fandom has this collective amnesia about how they trashed Lucas just as badly as they now trash Disney.
@@zippymufo9765 Anymore? He stopped making public films years ago. We don't know what he's capable of anymore, though some of us know that Filoni and Favreau are consulting with him and doing their best to follow his original vision as well as they can with someone else holding their leash.
You seem waaaaaaay to nice to EA. EA is a disaster for Star Wars gaming.
EA and Disney are the Deadly Alliance to bring death upon Star Wars
Remind me again, how many games has EA done in how many years? It's pathetic.
I think battlefront 2 is doing quite well atm
@@thegamingprozone1941 Ya its ok now, after going through hell and greed.
@@cleny217 yeah I get ya
You left out continuous attacks on the fans by Kathleen and her cultists. Everything that I loved about SW was destroyed. I m done with SW
He also said the backlash against Felicity Jone's character was simply because she was a female lead so that might give you a hint as to why.
Kennedy put the J in the middle of SW.
@Filmfan Johnny You don't know me. You assume much. I even deleted the games
@Filmfan Johnny im probably the biggest star wars fan you'll meet and i havent seen nor will see Solo or The Last Jedi. Im not okay at all with their bullshit political stuff they keep pushing in the movies. Keep the SJW PC culture out of my star wars movies. I'll play Kotor 1&2, the real battlefront 2 and watch the prequels and originals all day every damn day but ill be damned if i ever rewatch TFA or even try to watch Solo or TLJ. TFA is a shitty remake of a new hope and the last jedi destroyed all the interesting things JJ had set up in TFA. I doubt ill watch another Star Wars media unless its made by Dave Filoni or its the Kenobi film, and only if that has Ewan McGregor playing Obi Wan again and they keep kathleen kennedys grubby sjw hands out of it. "THE FORCE IS FEMALE" shut the fuck up kathleen kennedy the force isnt a fucking sentient being its a god damn part of the entire fucking universe amd its not a fucking living thing its like gravity and atmospheres its just fucking there the damn sjw fucking cunt tries to SJW everything
@Filmfan Johnny Then why did solo flop?
This would not be a conversation if Rey had flaws like a normal person and the Anthology films used legends material instead of just rewriting the events between Episodes 3-4.
It might not even be so bad if they had kept Rey, kept the SJW politics but simply set it all during the Yuzzan Vong arc. I could live with that
Well considering tlj completly shat all over the hard work in the originals, yes it would of been talked about
Yeah seriously. She’s more powerful than the most powerful Jedi ever? With no training? She’s basically invincible and for no reason.
Shawn Shaw they should have adapted the Thrawn Trilogy books. Just altered the time period to fit the older age of the actors.
@@martinjrgensen8234 They actually should've just followed Lucas' _actual_ VII-IX story template. Why would you shut the creator of an IP out of the creative process??
You know its bad when a fan makes a 50 minute documentary how you ruined a series
The Expanded universe is still canon in my eyes
And forever it will be canon
Yeah disney canon is not canon for me
It is more canonical then anything Disney makes because it's narratives were 'approved' by George Lucas. Thus they have more connection to the original creator and THAT is what defines cannon. People confuse canon with continuity, the former is defined by WHO made it, the later is a set of fictional history that is being used for derivative work.
Thesnaccattackishere hell yeah. I’ve read just over a hundred Star Wars novels and will not be told they didn’t happen
The Expanded Universe is definitely more canon than Disney's additions.
I still love Star Wars, I always will. I love the originals and the prequels. I loved the Force Awakens and Rogue One. I only wish I could love the Last Jedi the way I loved the rest of Star Wars. But I can't because I feel like the Last Jedi spits in the face of everything that made Star Wars special, everything I loved about Star Wars. Believe me when I say I want nothing more than to love every Star Wars movie. But after walking out of the theater in December of 2017 feeling confused, betrayed, and saddened, I just can't. And that breaks my heart more than anything.
Make sense. You were somehow revolved in all of the movies you love (maybe with the exception of RO), but you were not at all present in The Last Jedi.
Same here Kenobi.
General Kenobi
Original trilogy for me only and the last 30 minutes of Rogue One.
@@rokhamler3352 don't take this the wrong way but why are you here, cause you essentially like 15 percent of star war, just wondering as someone who likes everything except ep8, rebels, New canon comics and a little bit of 7.
“I rather see Rian Johnson finish the trilogy”......Are you still sure about that?
Oh yes! At least we could see if he is really as good when he has to end a story in a coherent way and not only subvert expectations.
I remember the day the last Jedi premiered world wide. There was excitement, people walked into the theater with so much anticipation that Was intoxicating. Then when everyone walked out, that excitement was gone. You just could feel this was the turning point in Disney Star Wars, going from excitement to complete apathy, and that hasn’t changed since
53:10 this is still such an out of touch response. We aren't mad because there is too much star wars, or it's coming too fast. Everyone who says that is an idiot and doesn't understand the problem. The real problem is the quality of these movies are in the gutter. The movies are designed to excite the audience on the first or even second viewing, but aren't well crafted enough to withstand discussion and later viewings. In basic terms, these movies are not at all reaching the standard of quality that Star Wars used to be known for.
We don't have too much star wars. It's just that the star wars they're making really sucks. We wouldn't be complaining at all if they were awesome movies. Give me an awesome movie every year and I'll continue to go. But burn me like you burned me the last few times... Well, I'll show you what happens. You got but a taste of what is to come when Solo hit, and failed.
I'm afraid the boycott will be quite operational when episode 9 arrives.
To clarify, I was talking about Bob Iger's response to Star Wars' failings.
@@NFS0038 you have a need... A need for..?
S. P. E. E. D
ikr....just make a good story about space adventure.....no feminists agenda, no hints on any sexual identity shit.....just....good.....space....adventure........story. THATS ALL!
NFS0038 1-6 are the best no point watching 7,8,9
Just do the Marvel test. All the BS the media spun can be discarded by that. "People don't want 5 months in between"... Yeah, sure, Black Panther and Infinity War say otherwise. Once a year just doesn't work! Yeah, Marvel once again proves you wrong.
Maybe it's the quality? (Gets called racist sexist manbaby)
I will never pay money for something related to star wars again until Kathleen Kennedy is fired!
Same for me! But I'll also wait R.Jonhson to be thrown into the pit of carkoon
Agreed
Exactly
I should’ve read this comment before I bought the Blu-rays for Episodes 7 & 8..
I haven't bought anything star wars since January 2013 😂
when jar jar binks is more loved than your four new movies you know you messed up.
Yu優一郎 JAJA IS WAY BETTER THEN THIS DISNEY TRASH!
@@AWretchedMan that's what he just said
@@damienerickson4182 he didnt just say it either dumbass he said it 2 months ago! 😂
nahhh
that's not true hater
*Disney* “We need to move away from the Skywalker family.”
*also Disney* Rey Skywalker
My son to me: you fought in the fan wars?
The separatists were right all along. In the Clone Wars and in the fan wars...
Yes I was once a star wars fan, the same as my father.
Drath Kennedy is more commercial, and PC now than woman.
I am an Expanded Universe fan like other fans before me.
Elder74 before the dark times, before Kathleen Kennedy...
George Lucas: Where is Star Wars, is it safe, is it alright.
Fans: It seems in your anger you sold it to Disney
George: I couldn’t have. It was alive I felt it.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Only because the fans badmouth the prequels, causing George Lucas to sold to Disney.
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Kill him kill him now
Funny note: George Lucas actually voice Darth Vader’s No.
You will not take Star Wars from me!!!
We will never forgive. We will never forget.
Oh, I'm afraid the boycott will be quite operational when Ep. IX arrives..
I got that reference
agreed
please don't let rebels go to reactor and put torpedoes to it
Jeff R haha best comment
Tico: not fighting what you hate but saving what you love...
Me: ok I just won't see #episodeIX and will do a family starwars week for episodes I, II, III, IV, V and VI
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Star Wars Fans: "you were the chosen one, it was said you would complete the saga, no leave it for darkness"
George Lucas: "you hated me!"
"The last jedi got so much praise" what praise?
From the film critics, not the fans
Ben Hickerson fans did give it praise dumbass
Man I'm a star wars fan, and if it's star wars I'm fucking with it! Even the obliteration Han solo film. Episode 3 to me was by far the best and one of the greatest films of all time, ep 8 was deff the worse out of the Skywalker saga... But that's what they get for switching from Jj Abrams to some random ass guy, like he didn't kno what jj was planning for the trilogy and to expect him to take the trilogy in the same direction that Abrams had planned is blasphemy, Disney recognized that and went back to him to close out the saga.. I just wish they would've kept him for all 3 but the past is the past and I have faith he will do his best to finish this saga to his best ability. I just want to see the old republic and some R rated star wars trilogy's already, they need to do a trilogy on Revan that leads into a trilogy about Darth Nihilus or a trilogy about Abeloth
@@SiddarthaTB it was the worst star wars yet, rated worse then even Episode I by the fans. Currently fans have it at 44% on rotten tomatoes, though I'll admit a minority of those that saw it probably liked it, most did not, its failures hurt Solo, and will hurt Episode 9. There was a laundry list of problems with the plot whitch was B movie quality, but if you don't care about good plot and story and just want flashy effects theres always another Transformers movie coming out.
It was shit even mark said so
And to think, all of this could've been avoided if we just didn't hurt George's feelings.
I suppose the saying is right, the path we take to avoid our destiny is the one we usually find it on.
@@davidlennyman444 Well, to be honest this is only what I've HEARD, maybe he sold it to retire, but I doubt it. People really hit him hard with words when the prequels came out.
He would have made 7,8,9 but the reviews from fan about 1,2,3 were horrible. So he said fuck it then your not getting shit from me anymore... then sold. Tristan is 100% correct. Lucas says this himself in interviews.
@@beltfedhate no one hates star wars more than star wars fans
That's not why he sold it, he sold it to spend more time with his daughter and to ensure it was in good hands. He regrets it
@@beltfedhate no he doesn't? Go watch interviews, he's never cared
Imo everything released after Lucas sold Star Wars is just high budget fanfiction
Episodes 7 and 8 are crap, but Rogue One and Solo are vastly superior to those godawful prequels. That being said, the only EXCELLENT Star Wars films are still the original three. They have spawned a 42-year media giant because they really are THAT GOOD.
@@SuperTonyony why didn't you like the prequels?
KA12345 A1234 fr man I personally love the prequels. Maybe it’s just because I grew up with them but everyone has to admit episode 3 really made up for that trilogy. hopefully episode 9 does the same bc the last Jedi was horrible
@@SuperTonyony maybe for episode 1 and 2 but not 3. Revenge of the Sith is one of the best Star Wars film
Frank Bowman the prequels were awesome
Me watching Disney Star Wars: “YOU’RE BREAKING MY HEART!”
Disney: “LIAR!!”
Prequel-Original Saga: I Hear, a new apprentice (Disney), you have, California, or should I call you.......Darth Calius?
California: Prequel-Original Saga, You Survived.................
Prequel-Original Saga: Surprised?
California: Your Arrogance BLINDS You, Prequel-Original Saga. Now, you will experience the full power of The Dark Side!
I am more interested to see Vader episode two, rathern than eipsode ix after last jedi.
just fuck off
Same.
@@Timo-nc2nw
Womp womp
I feel you underplayed alot of Criticism from 2017 onwards. I heard far worse reviews from the causal fan base.
he was impartial, the fandoms split pretty evenly down the middle between the ones who liked it and the ones who hated it.
Yeah one of the reasons solos flopped was because of fan backlash
@@noahpickering9674 hmm, I won't put it all down to that. The movie market had a lot of Star Wars in it, the previous moives were good to average and solo didnt spark much interest for me, as trailers werent anything to shout about. Movie itself was average.
@@whitewall2253 fair enough he was talking about it from just the Star Wars fan base but it would be worth mentioning the general view of the movie for reference.
You know, Ashoka is actually a really good character and I'm sure many agree.
Please correct me if I'm wrong as I have not watched the entirety og The Clone Wars or Rebels.
my favorite actually, and I'm not alone in that opinion either.
She's not a Mary Sue, because she went through a lot of training and got her butt kicked most of the time
@Lord Of Vengeance You may want to rewatch the last arc of Season 5 in the Clone Wars. I'm pretty sure it wasn't her who saved the day, not to speak about her crumbled faith. Not to mention when her literal incompetence killed most of her wingmen. She might grew strong, but she's definitely not a Mary Sue.
@Lord Of Vengeance She is no Mary Sue half the time her overconfidence saw her beat like the 1st time she encounters General Griveious she was beat and had to retreat. Ventress was able to get the better of her too so most of the main enemies she faced were able to beat her. Sure she could cut up droids all day long but in no way was she over powered.
She's fucking fantastic and everything a strong female should be.
Rey: I'm a Skywalker now
The fanbase: "Skywalker or not, you must realize you are doomed."
Who ever did rogue one needed to do star wars.
Omg facts!!!
BuggsDwabbit who me?
Needed my nigga said needed
YES!!!!
I agree,Rogue One was the best Disney has come up with so far...
Nothing about employees from Lucasfilm shitting all over and attacking the fans on social media? This only added insult to the injury Star Wars took from the last jedi, and is definitely relevant to the state of SW in 2017, especially surrounding the release of Solo. Why didnt you mention it?
because most of them are headcanon created by the fans to justify their hate and harassment
53:29 got a small part of it, but yeah it was a big part of the Solo Boycot reasons so it probably should have gained more attention.
STAR WARS Go!! Lol if you tell me don't watch the movie if you don't like what we're pushing down your throat then i won't watch it. So yeah it's a pretty big deal and had nothing to do with our "hate". That is just an idiot argument from you.
@@Imperator666 yes because listening to out of context videos made by biased individuals is accurate, so i guess you agree that if you pay for a ticket for a film you are allowed harass and send death threats to the creators?, if not then your not the side of that video.
The Extended Universe is cannon , the disney timeline isnt cannon .....
End of
Basically this, whatever project anyone can come up with I can only hope they ignore the disney timeline, I sure will do.
Perhaps the new trilogy is just a bad dream that Luke is having and in the end he wakes up beside Mara Jade.
The problem with that is that even George Lucas considers the comics and novels fan fiction that he allowed people to profit from as long as he got a cut. He never consider the extended Universe as cannon Disney would have to contact Dark Horse and make deals. Which would never happen as some of the best directors have said, "Disney doesn't like giving people free range to do what them want". Even if K. Kennedy is fired that would hire someone like her.
Why do you people even care about what is cannon or not ? It doesn't change anything about the novels, comics and games. They haven't changed or disappeared the moment disney said they were doing their own thing. The stories we experienced haven't changed from good to bad. We can still get access to them.
It's a good thing they made that decision. We get 2 parallel universes, opportunities for different stories for the same era.
But of course disney fucked up with the movies . Hopefully the rest will be good.
Damn right.
It's so sad that the fandom I love is dying under Kathleen Kennedy.
What if Star Wars and Disney shuts down?
Dear Disney, give us more things like The Mandalorian, Rogue One and Jedi Fallen Order. We don't hate women, we just want good stories
Yes, the story is more important than the political correctness or racial/gender equality or the actors who are old now/dying/died. Why the directors don't understand this?!
that girl in fallen order has abnormally sized eyes tho
@@angelg3986 yeah it is
@@yaboiyeets3721 okay and?
@@yaboiyeets3721 That's what the actress actually looks like. She is a real person.
The biggest thing the success of Vader: Shards of the Past demonstrates is that 'Star Wars Fatigue' is utter BS. We just don't want the deviant sexual garbage LucasFilm decides to cram down our throats.
Also, Solo had 88% 'want to see' rating a week before it premiered. Then Kasdan put on twitter that Lando was supposedly pansexual and it was at 35% by the time it was released.
Your argument is that the content is sexual garbage it has to be the characters since the characters are the "sexual deviant garbage."
So if they were male and said exactly the same things, it's a thought experiment, what makes the characters good in your opinion?
@@nielsjensen4185 The last time I checked, Lando is male (at least at the moment - Disney will probably change that in Episode 9) and clearly wants a sexual relationship with his droid. It doesn't matter if the character was male or female - that's sexual deviancy, plain and simple. (And before you bring it up, deviancy is defined as 'departing from the norm', and since way over half the people in the world are heterosexual, this is the correct application of the term.)
You forgot about the Toys not sell.
Alberto Arras those Rose Nico Kim Jong uhn girl toys
jadehelm288 0 The new Star Wars toys from these films are worthless, compared to the old classic ones from the OG series and prequels
Whats that useless asian chick from 8? Her character never sells and i work at a toy store.
@@wetbanana4782 yeah she is probably the most hated star wars character ever, even worse than jar jar. While jar jar had some comedic function for kids rose was just horrible and ruined another character too. In my opinion jar jar isnt that bad, because you can ignore him pretty good and he doesnt have a huge impact on the story which rose definitly has.
@@kyrex1785 at least jarjar had a wild fan theory. But yeah i agree they just all together had poorly written up characters and the story just made no sense. Too many plot holes, disregarding the universes logic. Fuck i gotta calm myself again.
watching this in the future where ep nine happened already... realizing the mandalorian is pretty much the only thing we have left right now.