4K CABVIEW Niš - Beograd -- Agency train 13154 Optima Express -- Central Serbian main railway line
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Serbian railways main central line Beograd - Niš is the most important railway line in the country. Railway line Beograd - Niš is the main transport route between the railways of Bulgaria, Turkey, North Macedonia and Greece and the railways of Central Europe. It's mostly double - track line. Single - track line stretches between Resnik and Velika Plana and a short section between Stalać and Đunis. Railway line from Belgrade over Mala Krsna to Velika Plana can be considered as another track of Belgrade - Niš line. The basic route between Belgrade and Velika plana is over Resnik and Mladenovac.
Rakovica and Resnik are southern Belgrade railway intersections for many railway lines. Between Resnik and Mladenovac, the line stretches over Ralja hilly pass. There are some old railway tunnels and old steel bridges. It is also possible to notice several old wartime German bunkers. During the Second World War they served as military protection of important and large buildings along the railway. The another hilly landscape section on the line is between Stalać and Aleksinac. From Stalać over station Stevanac to station Đunis the line follows the riverbed of the river Južna Morava (South Morava). On its way from Belgrade to Niš, the tracks several times cross the rivers Velika Morava, Južna Morava and Nišava.
It is the first railway line built in this area. It dates back to 1884. Since then, the route has been many times changed, upgraded, modernized and electrified. Until the 1990s it was the backbone for the numerous international long - distances passenger trains. Since then, the number of trains has been constantly reduces. That reduction in traffic was followed by great deterioration and the gradually destruction of railway infrastructure. The long term of infrastructure non-maintenance and neglected situation led to a remarkable reduction in maximum allowed speed. In some places it is 30km/h and rarely an incredible 20km/h and 10km/h. On some sections the maximum permitted speed is 100km/h, but it is hard to achieve with long and heavy trains. Along the way, train passes a number of faulty signal and safety devices and defective railroad crossings. All this slows down the movement and the journey on this 243km long railway line often lasts over 6 hours. Freight trains often travel over 10 hours.
The recording was made from the Optima Express agency passenger train number 13154. This train transports passengers and their cars from Edirne (Turkey) to Villach (Austria). Detailed information about route and train composition are shown at the beginning of the video. From Niš to Belgrade, the train has two ASEA locomotives (Serbian Railways series 441). The train consisted of 16 wagons (6 passenger coaches and 10 wagons for car transport). It was 885t weight and 473m long train.
The train ride starts at 04:39 from Niš main train station. The train passes through Niš marshalling yard (Popovac station) at 16:40. It reaches its maximum speed of 100km/h for the first time around minute 30:20. A fast ride is short because there are many limit and slow order speeds. There are also numerous train dispatcher orders for passing faulty signals and not working railroad crossings.
On the route follows:
01:03:00 from Korman to Đunis 9 track signals and 5 railroad crossings do not work
01:29:00 train enters the South Morava gorge
01:49:50 tunnel "Stevanac"
01:56:25 station Stalać and crossing to double-track line to Velika Plana
03:28:00 station Lapovo (passenger station and marshalling yard)
03:53:30 staion Velika Plana and crossing to single-track line to Belgrade railway junction
05:03:48 tunnel "Ralja" and the highest railway station on this railway line
05:10:20 tunnel "Ripanj" - the longest railway tunnel on old Beograd - Niš mainline (1614m long)
05:24:00 an interesting freight trains meeting at station Klenje
05:44:27 entering to Belgrade railway junction (station Resnik)
05:58:44 the longest railway tunnel at Beograd Centar - Niš line (tunnel "Dedinje" 3086m long)
This locomotive cab ride is finished at Beograd Centar railway station.
The recording was done in November 2021.
Dule, veliki užitak! Hvala. Zastrašujuća je spoznaja da je za prelazak trase od nepunih 250 km potrebno preko šest sati u 2021.
Круто, ты снимаешь в кабине электровоза Сербии!!!👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️, Ставлю лайк 👍
Kakvo pozitivno iznenadjenje . Putovanje iz Niša do Beograda i to sa Optimom Expres.
1993-98 preko Subotice i Novog Sada 15pari Optima, plus Attica, pa ASR tours preko Segedina i Horgoša i Subotice more brzih vozova, i 1 teretni dnevno. Atticu je nasledio 1411/1410 Wien- Thesaloniki!
@@hadesdescent6664 Da ne pričamo o sedamdesetim i osamdesetim godina prošloga veka koliko je vozova tom rutom išlo.
WOW! i havent seen personal train combined with freight for such a long time!! thats so cool::) thanks Dulevoz, once again great video
It's not freight, it's the cars belonging to the passengers. This service isn't as common as it used to be, but it still runs every day on some routes such as Graz to Zurich.
Čist Auto Voz (kola sa ležajima i kola za spavanje + kola restoran / ne obavezno, i da teretna kola za prevoz praćenih automobila)! Jedino sezonski agencijski voz!
Great video thanks for shooting and posting. It took a few sessions but I made it through to the end! I love the way the small towns all have a uniformed official to acknowledge the passing trains.
Yeah it is something remaining from 1800s and early beginnings of Serbian railway industry .
I take it you mean a signaller. Ours remain in their boxes/towers in the UK except to give single track tokens but many flag their trains through
Malo brze nego za vreme kralja Milana kada je tadasnja pruga bila cudo tehnike za ondasnju Srbiju koja je zaista isla napred... strasno u kakvom su stanju pruge, a ovamo se pricaju bajke.
Po obicaju super video i sve pohvale!
Sada je samo 2 sata brže u odnosu na 1880-te .
Kao i uvijek uvijek, veliko Ti hvala. Mislim da bi daleko više uživao da nije ovako (jadno) stanje jer mi je taj dio poznat i iz nekih drugih vremena.
Le train qui s'arrête au passage à niveau parce les barrières sont restées ouvertes, je n'avais encore jamais vu ça !
Another excellent work! I'm looking forward to seeing the changes after the construction of the new line.
Sensationell! Und das mitten in Europa. Die EU hätte noch viel Möglichkeiten, Serbien zu helfen. Super Video, topp Qualität. Danke und Hut ab.
Odličan je video i svica mi se najbolji si snimatelj za snimanje vozova ikada
@1:11:13 view is good... makes a nice wallpaper... thank you for the ride.
Svaka čast Dule!
WOW! Very Cool, Greetings Friends of Railfans from Indonesia
A nice trip, with the background music of "Steely Dan" becomes a fantastic trip (it's just my choice) :-) Greetings sir, and happy new year
And I thout that BDZ (Bulgarian National Rail company) is in hopless state... Looking at the speeds and the condition of the track , its like the Serbian network is held by ducktape waiting to collapce.
You told the point.It is the matter of time when it will be privatised.Everything in Serbia is falling apart.
Wonderful video from the cab of the locomotive!!👍
Looks like going by foot will be faster than Optima Express :)
You can’t even call this an express, the state of the track outside of Belgrade is something to be truly ashamed of.
5:56:37 At this very moment, the train that stands neglected on the left was Josip Broz Tito's Plavi Voz (Blue Train), I guess.
Zašto je ograničenje na 30 kmh na deonici Trupale - Grejač koja je projektovana za 100kmh Pruga ne izgleda tako loše na tom delu Inače , video je odličan kao i uvek Pozdrav
Beautiful Train Video, Beautiful Scene , Very nice.
I enjoyed the film, at least when the many speedlimits didnt make me fall asleep
Hello! I'm here to tell you of a good location where there are some trains! Zrenjanin Fabrika is a train station in Zeleno Polje (a part of zrenjanin) you can ask the workers at the station if you want to know when it is gonna come. They're all freight trains. For now I have seen 4 trains in Zrenjanin but I will get more in the future hopefully.
wonderful views from the cab!great video
Hello from Czech Republic - one may say that we have slow railways (up to 160 km/h), but it is OK... ;) I hope you will get new tracks soon.
They will get Belgrade-Niš railway (100 minutes) in 2026-2027 (maybe 2028-2029 if delays occure) and Budapest-Belgrade railway in 2025 (3 hours travel). For Belgrade-Niš railway EU gives money in form of a grant and loans.
This entire section is planned for modernisation. Also in 2022 I do not think the section between 3:55:00 and 5:53:00 will be in use. Most trains will be forwarded to the Mala Krsna-Jajinci line which is largely renovated and the works are about to complete within a month. BTW great to see Optima running in November, in previous years it was only running once weekly during summer.
I bet the passengers were pleased to get off after quite a marathon! Quite a lot of investment neededto bring the line up to standard but an interesting view - well done!
Prekrasan video. Nije mi jasno gdje izgubi toliko vremena, od Niša do Kormana ide solidno za 1h, ali onda 2h se izgubi posvuda. Trebalo bi mu duplo manje od Niša do Bg, recimo 3h, najviše 4h.
It’s lunacy that the train has to stop at unguarded grade crossings. In the US, the train has right-of-way. You cross the rail at your own risk.
The train only stops at defective automatic level crossings (no sound and light warning for the incoming vehicles, barriers remained raised).
These guys are doing it the right way --- too easy for distracted or inattentive drivers to assume it's okay to cross the tracks when the crossing gates are up, there are no flashing lights and no bells. I live in the states as well and have witnessed numerous occasions when a train had stopped to actually have someone flag the crossing. It's when you get careless, nonchalant and impatient that things jump up and bite you.
It's the same process in North America. If an automatic crossing is reported defective, the train stops and a crewmember has to get down and flag the crossing.
U kakvom stanju nam je signalizacija na pruznim prelazima, malo nam se nesreca i desava. Zastrasujuce!
Pozz super video
Ja sutra navečer vozim Optimu expressu Zagreb- Vinkovci
Click click click click click click eee flop.
What is this sound?!?!?
It is hypnotizing me 👍🏻
Bravo Dule!!!
I hope that the modernization works that are being in place between Belgrade and the Hungarian border will be held also on this line, this railway (and its
Belgrade-Niš railway will be reconstructed and modernized. This time the EU,EIB etc. will provide the money. 600 million euro grant and over 1 billion Euro loan. Apparently modernized Belgrade-Niš railway ready in 2026-2027.
5:56:37 At this very moment, the train that stands neglected on the left was Josip Broz Tito's Plavi Voz (Blue Train).
svaka cast kakav ekstra video... ja sam isto masinovodja u nemacku, ako postoji mogucnost da se snima neki video
Da li ćeš skoro da snimaš prugu Niš-Zaječar?
Nije trenutno u funkciji
Nice video, do you know if the modernization near Stara Pazova has ended?
Nice little meet and greet at 1:39:03
Boa noite 💤🌃 estamos aqui 🙏 pra ver trem 🚆 buzina isso é bom prô zumbido distrai tava com saudades ouvir trem 🚆 apitando um grande abraço Jaú SP Brasil 23:10 16/12/21
To serbify this journey to the max they should set a V sloworder of 10 km/h for the whole distance, a stop before every signal and crossing due to malfuction, and go with that soviet tripple diesel locomotive and only 1 waggon but full of gypsys.
moldy, let's smoke a gypsy 💩👹🖕🦨
Best christmas surprise - Super tour! Thanks you.
What is it for a castle on 5:03:50?
Thank you from Radeberg near Dresden in Germany.
Udo
To je bunker iz 2 svetskog rata. Ima ih nekoliko. Uglavnom kod mostova i i tunela. Dosta ih je srušeno a ako se ne varam u jednom su se uselili ljudi. 🙂
that is shelter from ww2
@@walter3197was probably used in nato bombing of 1999
Long Live Serbia!!!!!
Am I the only one hearing the horn go "HELLOOO", "HELOOO" ?
Excellent
pored svakog mosta ili tunela obavezam je Bunker
samo cab rade najače gasiranje ,krnaja njača i kafe zale
Tuga i jad,vozovi su pre sto godina brze isli.
The person responsible for the railroad crossings and signals should get a very long prison sentence. He/she is playing games with the human life. Can't belive that this can happen in Europe in 2021(2022). And this is obviously not a "lack of money"problem, this is a neglection and corruption problem. Btw, great job!
Juče sam uživao u vožnji Sokolom od Novog Sada do Beograda i nazad, a danas sam tužan kako je zapuštena infrastruktura na železnici Srbije. Od Beograda do Niša za sedam sati??? Pa ti turci što šalju svoje vozove preko Srbije mora da su popili mozak. Jadni putnici, za sedam sati 200 kilometara i to ekspresom. Trebalo bi neko njima da plati za takvu avanturu. Isto je na Barskoj pruzi. Dosta više gradnje nepotrebnih Autoputeva i novac usmeriti na gradnju železničkih koridora po Srbiji. Duletu hvala za lep video i nažalost ruglo i pored pruge. Jedina uredjena stanica je Rakovica sa uredjenim peronima osvetljena i sa klupama.
Спасибо за видео. Не понятно почему в Раковице и дальше по стрелкам 20 км/ч. 40 уже не выдержат пути?
Sledeći put snimaj iz vectrona
На многих станциях вижу ограничитель 30км/ч и не работающие светофоры ... это какой то капитальный ремонт сигнальной системы, или уже постоянное "30"? Просто - абсурд сбрасывать со 100 до 30 когда идешь по сквозному через станцию.
U Velikoj Britaniji parne lokomotive postižu bez problema i veće brzine od 160km/h!!!ima ih u Londonu na svim stanicama,pa i na glavnom kolodvoru !!
Dule jeli mozes da mi kazes zasto toliko puta vozi ovaj voz po 20 kmh? Jeli ima neki razlog? A nista se ne vidi po prugi
Dužine pruga Beograd - Niš nje je 271 kilometara ???
Hope the Chinese can get this line rebuilt as well as they did the Belgrade - Novi Sad line. It sure needs attention!
For Belgrade-Niš the EU gives money (a grant AND loans). What companies will do the reconstruction I don't know. Apparently in 2027 Belgrade-Niš in 100 minutes is possible.
Здравей може ли въпрос ?защо е ограничение 30 км при преминаване през стрелка без отклонение?
4:36:00
Здраво. На овом месту је спајање са бившом уском пругом Младеновац - Лајковац. Мислим само да је вредно помена, пошто је то последња угашена уска пруга у СФРЈ. Такође, у станици Младеновац има парњача која трули годинама.
Čudi me da je nisu Romi isekli da prodaju u staro gvožđe
@@markonikolic7725 Ciganmala je sa te strane pruge.
@@Mladjasmilic ne znam nisam odatle
Don't think that loco at 3:27:57 is going anywhere soon.
Nem hiszem el hogy a szerb teherszállítás nem ráfizetéses! Egy nagyjából 2 órás úton 6 órán át vánszorogni; 70 100 helyett 20 - 30 km\h val, ráadásul úgy hogy lépten nyomon leállítják a vonatot!... Így a fajlagos teljesítmény felvétel 8 - 10 szerese az ilyenkor szokásosnak.
👍👍👍
Are these ASEA locomotives Swedish built or Serbian built under licence?
The latter, most likely. I don't think any Swedish buildt units has ever run down there, other than maybe some demo units back in the day.
well, technically yes, they're Yugoslavian built (that old, yes) locomotives which were based off the design of the Romanian formerly-060EA/EA1/EA2, now Class 40/41/42 locomotives which IN TURN were based off the Swedish SJ Type Rb locomotives. :)
@@theopdiamond8349 Thank you for the detailed explanation! Quite a complex background. Stunning machines!
04:25:17 чија је ово локомотива,?
Jel ide iz turske ili ne
Najveci broj je isao na relaciji Villach-Edirne
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Nice
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ZASTO JE BRZINA OD PARACINA DO JAGODINE SAMO 100 KM NA SAT, KAD JE ZADNJA REKONSTRUKCIJA RADJENA ZA 160 KM NA SAT.
Za 120 kmh je radjena i radili su je Italijani. Ovaj voz je verovatno ograničen sa brzinom. Štadler kod Gilja ide 120kmh.
@@IvanNisic Koliki je razmak signala za brzinu 120 a koliki razmak za brzinu 160.
Pardon radjena ne za 160. A trenutno je 120. I ne verujem da će ići brže od te brzine
@@IvanNisic NISI ODGOVORIO ZA GORE POSTAVLJENO PITANJE.
300 i 500 metara
Optima Express
Looks like swedish RC locomotives
They are of the same basic design, but were buildt in Yugoslavia/Serbia under license.
@2:48:24 a cat tries to cross the track.
da tebe nema mogli bi samo sanjati ove linije
Hate fast trains. This is great
Zašto ograničenje na deonici Paraćin - Jagodina , pa to je bila nova pruga KOJU SU RADILI iTALIJANI Ovo je stvarno sramota , PA OVO JE ŽELEZNIČKI KORIDOR 10 ,A NE SEOSKA PRUGA
120 je verovatno je do kompozicije. Možda ima ograničenje zbog D vagona
@@IvanNisic Nije u pitanju 120 kmh , već brzine od 50 i 30 kmh na novoj pruzi
Štadler vozi 120kmh.
@@IvanNisic Vozi na pojedinim deonicama , a do Niša putuje 5 sati ?? Ako ste gledali snimak mogli ste da vidite znake ograničenja na pruzi koja deluje OK , pa sam zato pitao čemu ova ograničenja
Na deonici pruge koju su radili Italijani vozi se 120 kmh za Štadler. To ste napisali pa vam dajem odgovor. Odgledao sam celi snimak na toj deonici ne ide ispod 100. A razlog je verovatno DD vagoni za prevoz automobila. To što su pojedine deonice loše ne znači da je sve tako loše. Recimo da su radili taj dan signali i da nisu radili taj dan verovatno bi stigao barem sat vremena pre.
5:21:00
Dog !!!
Juri 30
👍👍👍❤🤍💚
Jel za prokop ili ne
Svaki drugi prelaz ne radi branik.I to na ovakvoj pruzi.Naprdno.
Ja od sramote ovaj video ne bi objavio (momku svaka cast na trudu)!
250 km prelazi 6:30h… Strašno… blam da ovo ljudi u svetu vide!!! Kao u Pakistanu i Avganistanu… 35 km/h
Al ima još grdje… Zrenjanin - Novi Sad 7o km prelazi za 3 sata… tako da mu ovaj dodje kao express! Zemlja Srbija💩 Jedino ako su putnici svi krenuli u Toponicu onda ih razumem!
Dali iko u Srpskim železnicama misli o vizuelnom identitetu? Na šta im liče vozovi, pa i elektične lokomotive Končareve proizvodnje. Ofarbali nekom cvekla bojom, valjda četkama za pranje podova. Užas. Da su bar ostavili originalni izgled.
Boze gospode
Bože Isuse šest sati vlakom do Beograda ajme Bjeda😞
2:48:29 i love how engineer cares, and he horned for that little dog to move away from the tracks, engineers are a such a genuine persons, and full of stories probably.
that's how it is: Ordinary people get the work done. Narcissists rule and bugger up. Stop kissing Narc Arse and the world will improve
@@Isochest You are overstepping the bounds of decency - your comment directed at Floyd Rose here is downright mean-spirited and completely uncalled-for. If you don't have anything constructive and positive to say, please do us all a favour, bite your tongue to keep your meanness to yourself - thank you!
5:21:00
I wish we could see this dog cross the tracks. The video is cut but you see the dog approach, disappear, and then reappear on the bottom right of screen. He stops for dogs? Nice!!!
Сјајан видео Душане. Мени мучан за гледање. Делом пруге направљеном пре 5 година за брзине 120 км на сат вози се 30 на сат. Да је Стаљин жив овде би летеле главе. 200 на сат само за наивне.
Meni je isto tužno gledati da se 220 km prelazi 6 sati. Ko je lud da putuje vozom od Bgd do Niša osim avanturista?
@@milanrsfc neko ko ima vremena na pretek ili nema mnogo para
Sve je tacno,samo nismo mi SSSR
Quite amazing. To see 95% of the infrastructure for a really solid rail network in place but to have it so hampered by emergency limits and what I assume is lack of maintaince. So much potential!
Yes and by the looks of the traffic it's all critical to the Serbian economy and to that of other countries!
These tracks are all extremely old, but due to the lack of funds and money not spent where it's supposed to be still little of the railway is in good shape. They only have a high speed line between Belgrade and Novi Sad.
Mind you, on the plus side, many of the VslowOrder limits look to be because the track has recently been reballasted.
Look at from the other side, there are no rush at any times, and if theres a bar rhey earn double as much as a regular drive - but admitted 30 Km/h at large pieces, that not tolerated in many countries.
6 hours 😮💨
I drove the same distance using only local roads (no freeway) in 5 hours.
So much money invested in useless projects, none in railways...
Awesome train ride! Lovely places and landscapes! Good work, master! Mega Thumbs Up!🚊🚂😎👍
All the best from Romania
Andrew
Thanks for the video. I have asked you for a long time to take a view from the cockpit of this railway section, thank you for listening. Now almost all the main passages of the Serbian railways are already on your channel, and this is good news. Now it remains to shoot a video of the view from the cabin from Niš to the Macedonian border, as part of the main European railway connection to Athens (if possible, of course).
And this video is very interesting for me as a railway worker, it was curious to discover in my time how the Niš railway junction is arranged.
also the part of railway from Belgrade to Bjelo Polje
Nice,and sad 😢! In the 1960's with 661 best travel time 3:08 h BG Niš!!!!!!!!
Хвала на дивној вожњи!Супер!Лепа природа Србије!Срећна Нова година и Божић!
I've read an article that said they're going to upgrade this line starting next year.
They said that just because we have elections in 4 months... Otherwise it wont happen and even when it does if this same government stays it will be just to grab more money from stinky tenders and job offers... Nobody sane expect them to do anything good with this trace in next 10 years.
Nothing said by Serbian government is true.This is the worst country to live in modern day Europe.
After watching this video with all it's speed reductions I was surprised when I realized overall speed was just over 65 km/h.
That's Serbia...
Very interesting - one minute, the view is very modern - then you see someone using horses and carts for transport, and the buildings are falling down.
Kako sam se nadao i nije loše mislim da je u kontra smeru još gore. Ovako težak voz nije zaslužio da staje na svakom putnim prelazu. Štadler tu izvlači fleke sa ubrzanjem.
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niska zeleznicka stanica izgleda ko iz filma dan posle sutra
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Wow, Great view, I love to see new places 👍✌️
Great movie 👍 Bravo 👋
And I have a new movie from a walk around the city 😊
Yours sincerely, DJ Janusz from Warsaw Poland ✌️ 🇵🇱✋
The landscape on the way is great, but unfortunately this railway is in an advanced state of decay, especially for a main line...Hopefully they will repair it soon, the trains shouldn't need more than 3h 30 min. between Belgrade and Nis. Thanks for the video, greetings from a traveller from Germany!
as a serb im very angry at how our railway has been neglected over the years...
Modernized Belgrade-Niš railway will allow connection of Belgrade and Niš in 100 Minutes (faster than highway connection). EU gives loan AND a 600 million Euro grant. Reconstruction apparently finished around 2026-2027.