2023 250cc Motocross Action Shootout

[@333studios.]

1. GASGAS - 3:00
2. Yamaha - 4:50
3. Suzuki - 6:55
4. KTM - 8:25
5. Husky - 11:00
6. Kawasaki - 13:00
7. Honda - 15:00

[@dylanhanley4651]

thats not the results thats just the intro to each bike

[@kyerindague7758]

Did he ever say they were they were the results

[@plxdin5450]

they literally hated on Yamaha for petty as reasons. the bikes to loud, the KTMs gotta hear me passing them some how. i bought a 2023 YZ250 and love it and so do heaps of other people

[@herbcanter2114]

YZ250F is flawless , so good in fact that many don't want to see an update in 2024. Wins the most shootouts every year except this one.

[@49cam13]

Same with the kawi, they are the 2 best 250s right now especially for supercross and these mxa guys just dick ride the Austrian 250s. Luckily, moisman didn't review the 450s and we got an honest review with kawi and yami uptop.

[@Slampiece88]

The tiny differences between these bikes will never be realized by 99% of riders out there.

[@landenwhite1531]

Facts

[@LevisLifts]

I think it’ll be realized. More like 99% of riders won’t be faster or slower because of them 😂

[@Davido50]

Very true👍🏻 All great machines! -Michigan

[@verytoe5371]

True but I want you to ride one of these and compare it 20 years later to a new one

[@brettfrimmer6567]

Yes and no. Anyone with motocross bike experience can feel a difference between the KTM bikes and the Suzuki. It’s noticeable. Will they be better riders? Not necessarily. But you get off the RMZ and get on the GasGas and it feels like you put a freakin supercharger on your bike. Much stronger power

[@jpesicka999]

2024 YZ250F sounds like the move when it drops.

[@ShiftGearsMoto]

can't wait for it

[@MegaStreet11]

These shootouts should just have lap times to settle it out. Take bias and preference out of it, overall, which bike allows riders to get around the track the fastest. Have a pro, intermediate, and beginner category.

[@PsyformSamples]

This

[@footballmx21423]

Back in the day some of the magazines used to do just that and it was glorious

[@MX-CO]

Yes

[@RogerT-kt3zd]

KTM will win that comparison on stock bikes everyday of the week. it wouldn’t be close lol

[@metalofthedeath]

The Honda and Suzukis look the sickest

[@carloscristoffanini1971]

Nah the husky and the Yamaha look amazing

[@leadhead7338]

Nah that Kawi Green is the sickest! 🤘🏻

[@metalofthedeath]

The kawi has super weird looking shrouds and the gas gas looks like the Nordic and rainbow bikes on mx vs atv combined

[@metalofthedeath]

The Yamaha shrouds/gas tank look like a street bike and the husky looks like a bunch of plastic shovels

[@metalofthedeath]

The ktms pretty sick, I just don’t like the color way. Last years was way sicker. It was like a Goku bike

[@lulukagung3153]

250 ama motocross champion
2018 Aaron Plessinger (Yamaha)
2019 Adam Cianciarulo (Kawasaki)
2020 Dylan Ferrandis (Yamaha)
2021 Jett Lawrence (Honda)
2022 Jett Lawrence (Honda)
Where is KTM, Husqy or Gas gas??
🤣🤣

[@leadhead7338]

Jap bikes all the way! Team Green Always though 😂… they’re always complaining about stripping bolts on the Kawi, I never have nor have I seen anyone around the pits doing this, I guess it’s because they’re test riders, and have never worked a wrench on their own bike😂

[@landenwhite1531]

Ahaha so true not even worth wasting ur time watching these videos anymore the Austrian bikes are gonna win every time and it’s personal presence all the bikes nowadays are better than 95% of the population that rides them😂

[@channel1_channel]

These winning bikes are not stock. They are factory and worth much more than stock bikes.

[@SLOWWS6]

Anyone whose watched mxa tests, knows that ktm is gonna win…I sacrificed 28 mins to figure out what I really already knew lol

[@sVERLo43]

just on paper ktm's always seem to have better numbers like weight, pawah, and tq

[@smark2016]

​@@sVERLo43
They're lighter because they use Airforks.
Airforks are light, but feel absolutely horrible

[@sVERLo43]

@@smark2016 i think air sprung suspension is the future, look at mountain bikes
can you objectively describe what exactly is horrible about air forks?

[@smark2016]

@@sVERLo43
The only "airforks" that are actually good are the KYB PSF1, Deegan rides with them for example.
The Stock airforks you get with the austrian bikes are just made for the average rider for quick adjustability which don't race the bike to the limit.

[@bradyn2193]

@@sVERLo43 they just dont feel good, had it revalved, tried a bunch of diff settings but still cant find a sweet spot for turning and going thru breakimg bumps/ruts

[@Skylerc24]

Weird how the Hondas and Yamahas are the only bikes to actually win on the track. These rankings are interesting as always

[@drakepeterson2134]

factory is completely different than stock

[@nickhowser7262]

@@drakepeterson2134 so Hondas and Yahamas are the best bikes to build

[@ryderdole5449]

it’s not the bike it’s the rider

[@49cam13]

These mxa guys always are sucking the austrian bikes off for the 250s... The 450s are the only fair shootout of these guys. Or go over to vital mx

[@kylegoodman5196]

Honda, Yamaha, and Kawi are really the only ones winning in the Lites divisions. It's been awhile since KTM was a player in lights.

[@lennartdiedrich2734]

interesting how well everybodys words on the 23 rmz can be after they get back a lil bit spot light. 21 and 22 where the same bike and evryone was talking shit. there you can see how much input media etc can have. the rmz was never bad it was only the Call

[@E63s_Scott]

Good honest review! Honestly ive noticed it’s always the American riders and reviews who are hating on ktm a bit stuck in the past as I always say ? Honda and kawi have a strong following in America I get it, but in Europe most bikes in the paddock are ktms and husky. Yamaha’s 3rd I’d say then Honda and a few kawi and only old suz. My buddy hates on ktm like crazy and he hasn’t even rode one, I race against him most weekend when his bike is actually working (fantic 250 2 smoker) always offer my bike to him but he never does.

[@southerngentleman2516]

All used ktms i see for sale have blowed up motors. 2 and 4 stroke. A guy i know bought one and had to have new motor put on after a short time

[@E63s_Scott]

@@southerngentleman2516 like I’ll say again are they people running no oil in their motors? Where are all these people? 150 hrs on my 17 350 and just sold my 2020 350 with 74hrs I holeshot most weekend fully stock with a stock pipe 😆 just bought a 23 husky 350 so will see first hand the reliability of the newer ones they are pretty different so let’s see but last 8 years my most reliable bikes have all been ktms 🤣

[@braedeniscool3531]

@@E63s_Scott dude it’s because these people absolutely beat on these bikes and just forget about maintenance then they blame the bike when something happens🤦🏼‍♂️ if you’re fast every bike is going to blow up and everyone needs to learn Austrian bikes and Japanese bikes blow up at the same rate

[@josephelefante9617]

Got the honda, absolutely love it

[@jacobyetto5780]

100% Agree 👍 MXA is my go to for any info I might need!

[@drakepeterson2134]

they spend months on end testing these bike compared to other media outlets that only do one day of riding

[@goldmx1229]

@@drakepeterson2134 They don’t need days they need people. did you see how many people Cycle News used for their shootout? All class riders and not just one from each class. See what is really happening with KTM pro riders and you would know the truth.

[@FakeFlowers420]

@@goldmx1229 I've ridden ktms for years and can tell you they're great bikes to race stock. Horrible for maintaince tho as the old bikes would have brake failures and the new ones have electrical issues

[@myyamaharips6360]

They hard meat ride ktm wouldn’t listen much to them

[@jkell411]

Motocross Action has always hated the new Yamahas. It's funny how they can't get over it, even though every other outlet (and most riders that own them) has no problems with them anymore. They also seem to love the KTM's while all the other outlets don't like them as much. They're not the only ones with perceived bias. Others do it as well. I really feel that it comes down to an unconscious influence between the test riders and editors.

[@kirkwilliams2127]

250 is old by comparison. Hoping for a 2024 update. MXA is the leader in test of all motorcycle. Simple as that. They have more experience than all the other magazine combined. What they say is pretty much the gold standard. They don't hate Yamaha's at all. Just telling it like it is.

[@jkell411]

@@kirkwilliams2127, lol. "Old by comparison" is a perfect description of MXA. I think they get things wrong just like any of the other outlets do. The results are influenced by the test riders they choose. It's not a coincidence that every outlet's test pool has very similar rankings to each other. They talk to each other during testing and influence their opinions. That's why you get one outlet saying the Kawi is the best while another will rank it 4th. It's not because one is necessarily better than the other.

[@harrisonH36]

yeah, I wonder why they always put JP bikes below the austrian bikes. Yeah I do know the austrian bikes are steel frame but I think we need an analysis which frame is stiffer and lighter. I live in asia so JP bike are a lot cheaper and mostly Honda and Yammie quite some Kawi's but the riders think they need a lot of maintenance, what do you guys think?

[@weston5146]

@@harrisonH36 all bikes need a good amount of maintenance. in my experience the Austrian bikes are much better but if you dont have the money dont. parts are more expensive and ussually hard to find depending on what it is. however theres nothing wrong with jp bikes at all they are all amazing

[@stan_smith395]

The yamahas are fat and heavy and shit bike stock

[@gioevor]

most accurate, specific and to the point shootouts, without ever forgeting we talk about 100% racing bikes ! congrats !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheSillybits]

On thy ktm and husqy the spokes come loose? I heard that several times now on reviews but seems to be taken lightly, I deem it a very serious issue likely ending up in destroying your wheels and/or make a serious crash, not? How can bikes with thise kind of issues end up 1st and 2nd? I don’t understand, also, I’d like to learn what to do about it, thanks!

[@randominc.2251]

Because they are race bikes...race bikes get more attention for routine stuff...They race these bikes every week and in many classes...They find all the weak points.

[@Shrekerator]

@@randominc.2251 granted tightening your spokes isn’t exactly routine lol

[@leadhead7338]

Team Green Always!

[@Dav_89]

So basically your team loser always 😂😂😂😂

[@leadhead7338]

@@Dav_89 Keep dreaming 🤡

[@motostarmx1777]

Honda baby!!

[@2216sammy]

Yamaha is more reliable than Honda .

[@davidleasterlingjr2038]

What made you say that it's more reliable? Been riding honda since the 80's. Always reliable. I have 22 250r and 22 rx. What did you base that comment off of? Yamaha doesn't even cover the wheel bearings on their bikes. Completely exposed. My bike cranks up every time.. better on fuel. Lighter than yam. Plus the low end fairy tale that every one is sold by yamaha is false.
No 4 stroke has low end to speak of really. Mid to high power is where 4 strokes shine

[@sdb92]

@@2216sammy Both are equally reliable!

[@mxr248]

Mosiman has always hated on Yamaha and always pushes Ktm mostly. Yamaha is all around bike that does everything. Why have a bike that only does 1 or 2 things great..plus the fact most all magazines say the Yamaha is the most reliable bike in the year that they have them.

[@m5132]

Yamahas blow up every 5 hours

[@mxr248]

@@m5132 😂 haven’t seen one yet. I’ve had 7 of them and never had a problem. My sons 250f had almost 200 hrs on it. Valves were still good and never adjusted once. Before we rebuilt it. My friend had over 200 hrs. Another friend of mine has 2 250f 3 of his boys have them as well with over a 100 hrs before refreshing the motor. None of theirs blew up. Also like I said every magazine said the Yamaha has less major problems than the other bike and they use those things every day. They have said that numerous times in videos over the years as well. Plus every track I have been to I have seen more problems ppl having is with a Ktm over any bike including a Suzuki that ppl give crap too. This year ppl are having issues with KTM pistons breaking, cylinder cracking and breaking with not even close to 40 hrs. It’s on the forums. Plus about a month ago I witnessed a brand new KTM’s … ya not one but 3 blow up at the track.. and at another track the guy went to out it in gear and it made grinding sounds and a glunk..also I personally know a few other guys this year had major issues with theirs as well. 4 of them went and got another bike cause that’s all they ever had was issues.

[@amitygaming7036]

i wish they would’ve brought in a Beta. Buddy of mine is a dealer for them and rides them. I’ve tried some of them and honestly like them more than my 2022 crf 250r

[@danwilliams1132]

I keep loosing the same exhaust spring on the KTM as your missing in this video.

[@wanlessadventures692]

You always know MXA is going to pick an Austrian bike. No big surprise

[@docstomp5524]

Love the new colors on the Husky

[@braedeniscool3531]

Dude I thought I was going to hate it until I saw it in person it’s pretty cool

[@kochj0713]

Why didn’t they put the Yoshimura pipe on it like they say they come with for till December

[@NickW90]

They’re lazy

[@tg8150]

That RM-Z may be “old”, but it still puts the rest to shame in the beauty category. It’s friggin gorgeous and looks the best built by far.
Those crappy overpriced unreliable Austrian bikes built in Thailand look like 1990’s KX’s with that steel frame.
Give me the Suzuki all day long. Not the fastest, but the fastest guy riding it could still beat the most powerful bike here.

[@braedeniscool3531]

Suzuki isn’t a bad bike but it’s just not up to par with all the other bikes. So people aren’t going to want to race on them it’s probably a amazing bike for the guy that just loves riding and doesn’t want to race

[@peterb121]

Funny thing is that once you ride the KTM and its siblings , you realize instantly that these high priced options are not what they are cracked up to be . You ride the Japanese bikes and instantly become comfortable with them. As a long time rider and enthusiast I question this so called test .

[@XecuTionNxx]

Totally opposite experience. Only rode Hondas and yamaha from 06-18. And a kawi once all uncomfortable felt like a fat overweight cow. Never got comfy ways had do bars pegs etc. Switched to ktm in 2018. By far the best out of the box cockpit for being 6+ feet. Nimble and slim cockpit that is point n shoot handling. I never go back jap.tbe build quality of the ktms are far superior.

[@SPCRacing1]

Agreed!
KTM is overpriced hype. Always has been and nothing had changed.

[@leadhead7338]

@@SPCRacing1 They always pick the Austrian bikes

[@davidleasterlingjr2038]

Shit. Japanese bikes don't vibrate like European bikes. Beta, ktm, etc all vibrate terribly. Only ktm I would consider buying is their 2 stroke. My crf250r is nimble, fast,, snappy and comfortable.All these 4 strokes are the same. None of them have low end hardly. These guys and companies sell that lie.. Mid to high power. Is where 4 strokes shine. All of them rev up quick for a specific reason and they are not 2 stroke trail bikes that have wider gear boxes and low end. Yamaha no different. From all these. Moto cross bikes aren't meant for lugging. Which is what everyone wants but 2 strokes are built for that kind of delivery.

[@kochj0713]

For some reason a lot of people are thinking that the stock Yamaha is gonna pull a KTM on a straight away at the start? it is not gonna happen! For some reason people watch the pros and go oh I’m gonna get the same motor as the star racing Yamaha 250s are you kidding me??

[@E63s_Scott]

I agree with this. I’ve been a long time KTM owner of several CCs including 2 250f’s and 2 350f’s. I’ve been following the hype of yams and wanted one so I rode a 2022 yam 250f with a pull FMF pipe and hard hitting map on the ECU and was massively underwhelmed it felt very flat, had an ok bottom but was really slow vs a stock ktm 250f and I ride in the mid range usually. I recently rode a 2023 yam 250f at a test day in the aggressive map it was much better but again I wasn’t blown away like everyone is of the mighty killer engine? The chassis and suspension I liked but need more time on vs the motor I can get used to that quickly. Maybe I’ve been spoiled by KTM engines for years. The only thing I don’t like about a ktm engine is it seems to have a more engine brake heavier feel with a stock pipe

[@manuelgiglifano1533]

@@E63s_Scott how you would compare chassis carateristic to sxf expecially in tight and rutted corner?

[@mxr248]

😂😂😂 I’ve seen plenty of stock Yamahas pulling KTM’s on straights! I’m an A rider plus I met a guy at a track he was mad at his new ktm and after that day he was selling it and going back to a Yamaha! He was pro level and was very fast. He said he hated the power and it didn’t handle very well it the mud. He said the Yamaha did everything better and loved the power more to.. I’ve had ppl ride my 450 and 250 that had other bikes and loved them. Several sold their bikes and now rode Yamaha.. plus the fact every magazine have raved about Yamaha having the best reliability as well..

[@2216sammy]

Yamaha's YZ250F is the undisputed king of 250's. Every other shootout puts it 1st .

[@mxr248]

@@2216sammy exactly been this way for years. But you have these orange lovers thinking those bikes they pay thousands more for are so fast! Lol.. plus don’t forget every magazine for years said the Yamaha also is the most reliable and last way longer than any bike.

[@mxoutdoors28]

Go Kawasaki

[@Davido50]

I concur with the results. Can't beat MXA wrecking crew! 💯

[@Davido50]

Truth! Ohh an KTM is #1. 😀😜💯

[@Peace2024TrumpUSA]

Hey kids don’t base what kind of bike you’re gonna buy off of what these people are saying. It is 80% rider 20% bike. A fast rider can win on any one of these bikes. Go figure dogging on Suzukis again and I’m gonna laugh when Ken Roxsan goes and mops the floor with all these guys on a Suzuki

[@busby905]

10:50 husky is 1 inch lower at the seat but they ride taller in the pits and on the track. I dont understand?

[@colbymullaney9908]

They mean the new frame rides taller than lasts years

[@gabrieleb5408]

13800 rpm is just crazy, and probably the limiter is over 14

[@danoa8859]

The factory ktm 250 with their ignition rev to 15 k rpm

[@danoa8859]

The factory ktm 250 with their ignition rev to 15 k rpm

[@zacharycrockett9884]

I don't know if it's been said but maybe another reason why Austrian rank different is they ride them 6 months before they release a video. When other outlets are one test day on one track. Which makes bikes like the kawi and yz which or more compliant out of the box and easier to set up show up a little more. But I'm a tinker my bike isn't the same set up when I got it off the showroom floor. So what does a bike feel like when you spend time and tune it

[@MRmwr2452]

It's funny how the RM is always dogged by stiff suspension when MXA says the Honda suspension is crap unless set-up and tuned by a pro company. Cant have it both ways MXA.

[@RunItDrew]

oh see how Suzuki was 2nd at 1:18 😁

[@davebishop2566]

I won’t be winning any races on my RMZ but is it ever fun. It still starts with a dead battery but I’m jealous of my sons new KTM.
Great video, thanks

[@VintageEngineRepairs]

If only it was 2 stroke 250…

[@jeliman13]

Thats a different shootout 🤟😊🤟

[@dougfalstad5227]

Let’s put all the 250s together, two or four stroke.

[@alexnajarianmusic]

The 4 strokes are about 5hp weaker than the 2 strokes from KTM. They would get demolished and the 4 stroke con job would come to an end.

[@braedeniscool3531]

@@dougfalstad5227 that’s not a fair comparison. 125 and 250F are comparable power and the 250 2T and the 450s are comparable power

[@melissatews9019]

I own all honda, red white and blue, all the way baby

[@frederickcarr6416]

I Don't Care what Place the Yamaha YZ 125 or 250 come in!! I'm not Happy with the results!! Yamaha YZ125 or 250F!! Without a Shadow of a Doubt!! Hands Down!! 🏆 No#1. It's just has Plain and Simple has that!! Period!!

[@Raydio6]

8:12 I think you’re right
I’m wondering if Suzuki is going to do a complete overhaul on their bikes soon to bring them up to par with the rest of the bikes

[@a226sig]

I hope so. My son isn't old enough to remember when Suzuki was the dominant force of SX/MX. It'd be great to see them have a glorious return!

[@braxtonfast8613]

Highly doubt it Suzuki is completely bankrupt after a major fail at trying to get into the car industry. Suzuki is just try to stay alive they don’t have money to dump into their bikes anymore sadly.

[@jacksonkloeppel1097]

2024 rmz250 I believe is supposed to finally get e start from what I’ve heard

[@jpesicka999]

​@@braxtonfast8613 they got Roczen now. They are developing a new bike. That is why they pulled out of moto gp. Saved money for a few years so they can reallocate resources into where it makes the most sense. In this case it's motocross.

[@tombunch5945]

@@braxtonfast8613might wanna fact check yourself, Suzuki crushes the car industry and does billions in sales. They are no where near bankrupt. They just don’t sell in the US.

[@andreasjonsson8075]

Use grease and washers for bolts. And clean threads. I've never had a problem

[@zook_291]

It’s funny how they said nothing good about the YZ but still put it in 3rd. I have a 2019 YZ250F and think it’s the opposite of what they said, very healthy and nimble bike.

[@TORKiT]

The Honda still looks the fastest.

[@karsonplett2649]

Fr

[@khanokash534]

It's all about the feels

[@roostfezza7563]

Which bike requires the least amount of repairs? That is which has the longest top end life? My crf250 had such poor top end longevity I wish I hadnt bought it. That is a decision factor for me.

[@adamwatts8343]

Which is most reliable??

[@MX-CO]

This!

[@larsvanderham8498]

i got a 2011 kx 250 f how much better are these new space ships compared to my old clunker

[@hannesdobbelaere]

testride one...only way to really know

[@jamest4383]

Josh, the name of the company you work for is “moto cross action” not motor cross action. You don’t even know the name of your employer?????

[@395PRS]

I've refrained from saying this for years, even have a paragraph or two saved to my notes a while ago and never pressed send because I would just be that guy and didn't feel like getting flamed...🤣🤣🤣 Is it being picky? It is Motocross Action Magazine which I have read since 1973. I root for Josh and Michael even more. Help me out here!!!!
Let the flaming commence!!!!😆😆😆
ruclips.net/user/sg

[@fugginrambo]

Welcome to the land of MordorCross

[@jaesea6125]

Josh he asked a question??

[@brentbarker3233]

did a great job

[@jamest4383]

Yes he does a great job, and yes he should be able to pronounce the name of his employer.

[@MX-CO]

What bike is most reliable/ Long lasting?

[@DeezNuts-yt2jp]

Video idea: a super mini dirt bike shootout with the super mini class bikes. For example crf150r sx85 kx112 yz85

[@MrRonronnj]

rear brake spring snaps easily?

[@jeanbotha6538]

I like that the YZ is louder.

[@ricardovillasenor1445]

OH WOOOOOW!! What a surprise! Did not see those results coming! What an unexpected ranking! KTM won!!! .... Glad I don't fall on this stupid publicity, you guys are getting really obvious. Japanese all the way!!! Yamaha :)

[@Rocketman0407]

As a big guy does the 4 stroke 250s provide enough power? I am currently running a 2 stroke kx250 and I really like the power on that one.

[@kochj0713]

I realize KTM has got to have their factory bike look but why they don’t have a whole orange on the bike is beyond me it looks the best and always has like the best they keep painting frames these odd colors?

[@mikeyfaulknor9970]

They change the color of frames every year. Next year the frame will be orange. What is the odd color? You get black or orange..

[@davidleasterlingjr2038]

The new ktm 2 stroke 250 racing trail bike is knarly. It will smoke any of the .moto cross bikes. Hands down. I ride honda and I am loyal to them since being a kid and getting my first honda 3 wheeler but my friend rides Nothing but ktm. I've ridden his bike. Perfect all the way around. 2 stroke low end and the pull of gear box is second to none.

[@taylorwaenga833]

Every other magazine have similar results. You guys always seem to have the total opposite 🤔

[@weejiwrxld]

Honda🔥

[@TheUrbanEpicure]

I get that you put them on identical tires, but why change the grips and bars? If they weren't damaged or severely worn down, you should have kept them on. These parts are a choice made by the manufacturer affecting ergonomics (a scored criterium) and are unlikely to be changed by most riders, at least not right away.

[@crk916]

Shocker…..KTM. Motocross Action is no longer my go to source of Motocross news for over 35 years. It is now nothing more than a monthly KTM advertisement. You guys are losing fans due to your constant sucking up to KTM

[@herbcanter2114]

You're 100% correct . They used to be trustworthy but now they say things that NOBODY ELSE says . Why is it that Motocross action magazine rates bikes the exact opposite of how all the other magazines and sources do is my question.

[@medjoolmaker]

yamaha for the win👍

[@worscohli]

Has anyone ever thought about like.... colliding a 2stroke w a 4stroke? maybe something like a 3stroke?

[@MRmwr2452]

I'm still pissed about the Deegan/Star Yamaha thing. I know its petty but thankfully the green bike is just as good!

[@herbcanter2114]

The green bike isn't as good , no way . Listen to all the other shootout reviews for an honest opinion.

[@ryangalbraith7080]

Green ,yellow ,red ,blue ,orange they’re all good it’s the rider not bike .

[@ryangalbraith7080]

@@herbcanter2114 shootouts don’t mean shit

[@go-joe2929]

Which one would you say is the most durable

[@chriss4690]

Sherco should get in the mix for next year. I’m curious on how they stack up

[@user-vr3cm7ml7d]

How come y’all never test the Hodaka ?

[@melissatews9019]

Rider make all the difference, honda should be right with yz. Ive rode both, there so close its not even noticable

[@stuartreeves8547]

What’s the best 250 for fast endrow riding, or 125🤷‍♂️ I need some advice

[@maddoxdavidson1403]

Ktm or husqvarna

[@CarsonKing2002]

Less than a year till I pay this truck off and get myself a Ktm 250. Can’t tell if watching this video is making my itch for one better or worse😂

[@matthewtoes6433]

How can the KTM be 45 HP and the husqvarna only 41 HP thought they were made on the same production line

[@motozz8258]

Only a god botherer could use the word proud will shafting everyone with there drivle

[@lucasl.8292]

Still no elec start for suki😢

[@Elcapooo61]

Wich handelbar is that?

[@MANBEARPIG111]

Do a 350 shootout!! Pressure the Japanese into making a 350 for the love of god.

[@LolliWANG505]

350's are cool but it's really not a bike that needs to exist.

[@E63s_Scott]

@@LolliWANG505 350 ktm is like the most sold MX bike, i think most people will disagree with that. I haven’t met a single person who doesn’t like them. Especially in Europe / uk they are everywhere!

[@completelylucid7596]

@@E63s_Scott Lol yeah no it’s not the best selling bike, do some research. I don’t even want to hear you say I’m wrong unless you actually back it up with some numbers because we both know you’re just spitballing a point to try and prove an argument lol

[@mattjones1792]

When u guys doing the yz250 2 stroke review and 250 2 stroke shootout

[@jonmcdougal9334]

Just wish I could get parts for my 23ktm !

[@carolinasrt4163]

If ktm would just get away from them shitty air forks they’d be 1,2 an 3

[@tcmx712]

You obviously have never rode one of the older spring equipped ktm's then haha. I'll take their airfork over them anyday!!!!

[@carolinasrt4163]

@@tcmx712 that’s why everyone dose spring covers on then I’ve rode some newer wp spring forks they feel good an before I had my 350 I had a 2014 ktm 250 that had factory spring an after it was setup for my wight it was a dream but that’s all I the experience I really have with wp spring forks they definitely ain’t no kyb lol

[@tcmx712]

@@carolinasrt4163 my last stock spring fork ktm was a '14 250 aswell, not great but not bad either. After everyone complaining about air forks I decided to try the spring conversion and honestly for what I ride (extremely deep sand) the stock air forks are better because of that initial "stiffness" or hold-up whatever you want to call it. I'm actually now running cone valve air forks and they are absolutely perfect for what I do

[@carolinasrt4163]

@@tcmx712 yea man if u can get the air fork dialed in with a good re valve an a psi setting that feels good to you the are pretty good I bet them cone valves are like butter would you say they worth the price over a kyb conversion

[@tcmx712]

@@carolinasrt4163 depending what you do, compared to the revalved yz's that my mates ride I'd say they are equal in comfort and "plushness" through breaking bumps and acceleration chop, where they excel is in deep rollers or hard hits (over jumps, flat landings, etc). I do heaps of freeriding in the dunes aswell and the way these forks feel in the bottom 1/3rd of the stroke is light years better than the kyb but if you're not doing stuff like that the kyb conversion is probably good enough in my opinion

[@ZT523]

If I’m looking into getting the Honda or kawi witch would be better for a c class rider?

[@youngman7655]

I mean a lot of people say the Hondas feel underpowered compared to the kawi and yz

[@ZT523]

@@youngman7655 I am on kawi right now and I kinda want to try and Honda and I love Honda but I’m not 100% sure uet

[@youngman7655]

@@ZT523 Yeah the 2022-23 actually seem to be a good as he said in the video they fixed the power. I have a 21 yz250f and I tried the 22 you should demo some bikes that what I did.

[@ZT523]

@@youngman7655 I will for sure thank you!

[@SHOWTIME070]

It will always be Kawasaki first an Yamaha 2nd for me. I have a 2019 yz250f an 2021 kx250f an there both super comfortable. I would not buy anything else. TEAM GREEN always #1 to me

[@ptshyu2]

With owning both which do you prefer to ride or is your go to bike?

[@SHOWTIME070]

@@ptshyu2 Kawi is my go to

[@ptshyu2]

@@SHOWTIME070 been trying to decide between the two but the price point of the kx is pushing me towards it

[@MrSteve16CZ]

These angry Yamaha tourists in the comments😂

[@xarilaoskaradimos3480]

ktm action forwarded video

[@bradnewman3565]

I don’t get how they say the Kawi handles and corners bad. But all the other shootouts say just the opposite? So four other shootouts say it corners great

[@donbrashsux]

Don’t take any shootout to heart .. it just gives the journos a job
All the bikes are great for 95% of riders .. just pick the one that suits you .. they can all win ..

[@terryshove5926]

They are always ktm husky gas gas bias it’s just their opinion, team Green for me

[@driftmax5180]

suzuki bestttt

[@JamesM-T]

Based off what you said Yamaha should be 2nd. At least it’s actually getting air flow to the air box unlike husky

[@JamesM-T]

@@EarthSurferUSA I know how to drill holes thanks, ask your mum about it😘

[@darcyreid6540]

I'd go the 2022 RMZ 250 love the bike but over here in Australia it's worth $13.000😢

[@aklaunch]

YZ 250 2 stroke

[@josephforcino6399]

I guess manufacturers can't get their chassis right and sometimes end up going backwards. Wtf.

[@MX-CO]

True everyone loved the 2018 KTM and Husky, They stiffened the frame in 19 and more after that and it hasn't one many shootouts since then. (It one them all in 2018

[@gqmonster976]

THEY TALK UP THE BIKES THAT COME IN LAST PLACE BETTER THAN THE HIGHER RANKED BIKES. THEYRE PLAYING WITH MY EMOTIONS

[@z400racer37]

no lap times?

[@marvs.1657]

nxt shootout 2023 450class

[@mxracer158]

Let's not forget the Yamaha's weak brakes compared to the KTM. I rode the 23 YZ 250 and yeah that thing is loud. I got back on my KTM and told my friend he needed to upgrade his brakes to Brembo.

[@leadhead7338]

Yeah so all you can hear is squeaking all the time😂

[@mxracer158]

@@leadhead7338 now I know why lead head is your name.

[@leadhead7338]

@@mxracer158 Because I love guns

[@eschrader]

Ooh these are 4 stroke f's. Closing video

[@jasoneli3779]

These do not matter to 75% of riders bike and motor are only going to make a difference to a fast B or A class rider most pp are hitting the track 1-2 days a week no matter what bike throw a new valve in the suspension and new spring for your weight and rider style and its gona bring all these bikes to basically the same bike. Dont think spending 10,000 is gona make you faster

[@scrapper501r]

How about cost of ownership being a category? Most riders do so on a budget.
I felt so cool with the r&b music in the vid. I want to go get a flat bill hat and tuck my ears inside it.
How about just hearing the bikes only ?

[@chrisbeerad8835]

MXA MOST POWER WINS NEXT

[@sambrown1779]

No chapters 😢

[@hydro2663]

Bruh, the KTM is so sick!! I WANT IT… but I can’t afford it… for the moment 👀

[@MX-CO]

You could buy 2 Suzuki's on sale for the price of one KTM

[@anthonyduzevich6421]

Dont know how these bikes cant shed weight when honda has a 219lbs bike & most others 227,228 & ktm went from 218 last year to 224 this year not a big diff to some but it is 2023

[@matthewellis5737]

KTM on top 💪🏻

[@michaelhernandez8102]

Suzuki on top

[@waynesworld5657]

Nice, honest reviews 🤘🏼