i disagree about the side space beside the stove. that's a prime space to have commonly used spices, spoon rests, a jar of cooking utensils, condiments, oven mitts, trivets, etc. if it wasn't there you would definitely miss it.
The area around the cooktop is great for cooking oils, salt and pepper etc. You can put a spoon rest there for your utensils you’re using. Absolutely necessary!
First of all, Thank You very much for taking us on an outside tour! Nobody has done that, even the website doesn't show it. My bad list, move the half bath to the garage as an option. Mama needs counter space in the kitchen, #2 get glow steps for outside, #3. have the fuel tank for water or fuel. I plan to use the toy area as an office or work room. My favorites #1, I agreed with yours, but really love the hard doors in garage area for more use in marginal weather. #2 I do like the counters, their supposed to be very durable. #3 no carpeting, I have dogs and I'm known to spill every now and then. Thank You again for such a great review!!
The epoxy countertops is one of the main things that draws us back to this brand over Grand Design. But that's because my wife is an artist that works with resin and epoxy all the time, we have a great appreciation for it.
4 Likes: 1: Nice kitchen with good storage and nice Insignia range with big oven 2: Both bathrooms are a good size, and the shower looks really nice 3: Large multi-purpose garage with patio 4: Slick exterior paint job and decals 2 Dislikes: 1: Interior decor is bland, the Paradigm has a more interesting interior decor 2: Heavy hitch weight
I absolutely love everything about this toy hauler! They freaking knocked it out of the park. My 3 favorite things, 175 gallons of water!!! The pantry!! And washer dryer prep in the bedroom! The full length awnings, 60 gallons of fuel, coffee bar, stove and shower with the fold down seat are awesome too. This is my favorite toyhauler right now and I have had several in the past and have a voltage 4005 right now. This makes me want to trade. The only thing I'd like to see is permanent bar stools like the Raptor and dishwasher. This toy hauler gives a lot of bang for being under 40ft! Love it! Good job Alliance! The only thing I hate is the placement of the middle jack. It should be closer to the tires as it will drag going off road... Don't ask me how I know 😉. Edit- Alliance's website says only 98 gallons of water. Can you confirm it has 175 gallons?
I’ve got the Paradigm 370FB & my wife & I really like it. You mentioned their customer service & I can confirm it is EXCELLENT! We’d like to get the toy hauler for the office space, but we have a residential refrigerator & would like to see that in the hauler as well. Keep up the great work Matt!
Three things I love... 1-It’s a 5th wheel toy hauler that’s under 40 ft WITH 1.5 bathrooms and w/d hookups which are our top wants 2-the master shower tile is gorgeous and large 3-it has electric recliners on sofa which won’t fall down with the weight of your legs Three things I dislike 1-I detest toy hauler washer and dryer hookups in the master bedroom closet instead of garage, even with an 11 ft garage. My husband is a travel RN who sometimes works nights and I’d like to be able to do laundry while he sleeps during the day. 2-I really wish all four seats reclined in the couch...there are four of us and that might be why we don’t buy this one 😭 3-we would rather have the loft face towards the garage which we use for a bunk room when not going down the road with our motorcycle and golf cart
I think the few inches of counter space next to the stove is great! Most cooks have cooking utensils and big spoons to stir the food while cooking! Great video!
Man this would make an AWESOME MOBILE WOOD-SHOP!!!!!!! Like> 1. kitchen 2. bedroom 3. Garage w/ porch dislike > 1. Clips down on the ground 2. epoxy counter tops 3.No counter space near stove 4. I CANT AFFORD ONE YET!!!!!
I actually really love the extra counter space around the stove, I LOVE the fold out breakfast bar, and the extra long recliner sofa! A few things that I wish this had, because there is not much that I don’t like, is a central vacuum, the ability to net in the top bunk in the garage and a jacknife middle part of the sofa so there is an extra “bed” inside for smaller kids. If my husband didn’t have cancer then this is the fifth wheel/toy hauler we would get this year! But cancer costs and stuff, means probably a small travel trailer to visit family on the opposite side of the country instead because we are not supposed to fly. But anything is better than nothing and still a wonderful privilege to have, but a girl can dream! Oh and the awning off the back, GENIUS! Great job Alliance! Edit: Oh and I would absolutely love away to prep the camp side storage area for a coffee pot and tiny fridge if we want to make our own tiny outdoor kitchen while being stationary!
I actually like a little space next to the stove, rest spoons or spatulas there Likes: 3 ACs, counter space, shower Dislikes: locks on closet doors, epoxy counters in kitchen, no 2nd solid step
Like 1. Floorplan overall use of space 2. Compartment set up under 5th wheel 3. Kitchen appliances Dont like 1. Small sink in bathroom 2. Countertops 3. Washer Dryer in the closet set up the way it is, scratch the half bath and give me laundry room
I like Toy Haulers, but Alliance knows how to make them better and give you more for the money. Love they give you three air conditioning units, the half bath on the back, entrance to the garage, black and grey water dump station enclosed, the 5,500watts generator, it is simply perfect 👍🏻.
3 things I liked : Roller Shades. Tint looking color on the cabinets. The Control Panel had its own cabinet. 3 things I disliked : A Sink on the Island. End tables Over the bed some. No Washer and Dryer. Good one. Thanks.
I think the small space on either side of the stove would be great for spices that you're working with and also a spoon holder/spoon! I loved the deep storage above the fridge for a pizza stone or larger serving plates! I think whoever designed that kitchen did a great job with a small amount of space!
While I don't like not having counter space next to the stover I appreciate what they did offer because it gives you room to put pans with handles so they don't stick out over the other burners.
The small counters on either side of the stove are spacers for pot/pan handles when using multiple burners at the same time. They are Absolutely necessary - love the cutting board/pizza pan/cookie sheet/ cooling rack storage below those counters.
Hello, wow very nice! I love the garage and patio, love the island, sofa, love the shower. For the price, solid surface countertops, bathroom sink is way to small. Great job guys.👍👍❤❤
The space around the stove is useful. You can set a spoon rest there and any spices or oils used while cooking. That other spot would make a perfect coffee station as long as there’s an outlet there. I really liked this floor plan. Good job, guys!
Love the one dump hook up for both black tanks easy tracks is flush in the floor no high raise less tripping over them. USB ports next to the bed. Dislikes back door should open to the wall side so you don't have to walk around it. switches for the bed and lights in the garage should be on the wall as you come in to high where they are. no fuel gauge inside for the Generator. no place for a large trash can. no locks on the bathroom doors .
Fantastic toy hauler. The tie downs, both baths, furniture, storage, etc are all great. I like the flip up counter and don't mind the synthetic countertops. This is a well thought out unit.
Wow! Nice toy hauler! I absolutely love the ease of the patio set-up, but I actually hate the smelly, dirty part of the toy haulers...I would much rather pull a trailer with the toys in it, than have them stored inside the living unit. That’s just me, of course. Really a nice looking RV. Excellent adjustment ability for the TV...great job, Alliance. Absolutely stellar idea for the kitchen island with the pull-up eating bar. Beautiful, solid sounding cabinets. Definitely needs an all-around splash guard around the range...and LOVE having a four burner cooktop! Color scheme not too dark and not too light. AND THAT SHOWER!!! Love, love, love it! This is really an EXCELLENT unit!
Wow! I haven't seen one of these in awhile. Woulda been fun when I was younger. Great for a family or outdoors loving couple(s). However, I dislike the drab cabinets, the drab colors throughout (ugly back splash) and no dishwasher. I love the layout including the patio and garage, the kitchen island counter, and the king bed with storage.
Love the interior the screen doors for the garage and awning over the ramp for the patio Don't like the gate in the patio fence has the cable running through where you walk through not lowering the propane tanks to fit a 40 pound tank
I saw a few Alliance toy haulers at the Beaumont Texas RV show a couple months ago. I was very impressed with their color choices, quality, and floor plans. I'm looking to replace my 2013 triple axle voltage with another triple axel
That time, I'm kinda glad that you didn;t climb that ladder-Whew! 😊Lots of light in the living area with awesome seating from the windows!/Awesome sleeping areas and ramp to a patio!/The kitchen appliances and bathrooms are on point!!🙄I agree with the kitchen countertop-100% is needed./More storage is needed at the entry area/The closet doors are a hassle.
One thing to think about folks and this happen to us. In the kitchen if the kitchen isle is to close to the Fridge you will have issues sliding the fridge out for repairs. This happened to us, fridge failed , repair guy came out and could not slide the fridge out because of the kitchen isle and refused to remove the isle. We where out of luck and no fridge for a while till it finally went in for repairs, keep in mind if not for the kitchen isle in the way the repair would have been done right there. Food for thought folk
The 4 things I like about this fifth wheel toy hauler: 1. no vents in the floor and no carpet 2. the TV in the garage comes down for a netter viewing angle 3. the patio doors 4. the soft closing cabinetry and toilet The 3 things I don't like about this fifth wheel toy hauler: 1. the patio gate placement 2. the closet door latches 3. epoxy countertops
I dislike the patio rail door being right next to the door cable. I really like the door on the side just needs to be move so your not doing the limbo trying to get around it. I love the big shower and wet bay. Also I feel the small sides on the stove allow for pan handles to be on the sides instead of taking space over the burners.
Looks great! You always see in the reviews of toy haulers, that people are considering them because they want the garage to be an other self designed living space, like an office or etc. Give us a clean slate without the bed or couches. And make the gas tank for more water. I'm thinking 2 person hot tub or walk in bathtub room!
I really like this toy hauler! Alliance builds first class units and this just fits in their lineup. The only real dislike I have is the patio entrance should be on the back and not the side because the support cable is in the way. Another slight dislike is I wish the W/D hookups were in the garage, that way the closet up front would have a larger capacity. The epoxy counter tops that so many are screaming about are actually very durable and I have no problem with them. I wouldn't use it for a toy hauler though; that garage would be my office! Thanks for another great review guys! Keep it up!
I'm OK with the Epoxy counter tops. Also for a toy hauler the oven counter space is better than not having anything at all, like some other I have seen. It's just enough space to allow pot handles to be off the side than over a burner. This unit appears to have plenty of counter space for cooking serving while leaving a coffee station up as well. Great review by the way.
Matt, your wrong about the little bit of counter space by the range, you need that for spoon rest when cooking and salt and pepper, and elbow room while cooking. The thing I not sure about is the access to that bunk over a doorway, you keep a ladder in front of the door.
Love the size of the bedroom, love the patio, and love the doors to the patio door. Hate the bunk, the over the cab in the garage, and only want a couples theater seat in the living space. Mostly because the toy hauler part would be my studio.
I wish someone would create a hybrid between a towable and towable toy hauler. I don't need a garage or toy space but I would love a 3 season room and patio without losing so much indoor living space. Maybe make the garage half the size to extend the indoor living space.
It is a nice looking RV. Without the drop frame it looks like a mid level unit but the cost is high level. The Weight capacity is very low. I don’t like that the ducts are not ducted. I know what Alliance says but I rather have quiet ducted units. I don’t like the shades. I have seen first hand and on other reviews where they get all bent up very easily. The counter tops look very cheap. (Mid level unit) In the master area the toilet location is ridiculous spot. Whoever designed this, have they ever RV’d with their spouse or partner??? The washer and dryer location does make any sense. What I do like is, the wheels, stove, the soft close toilet lids and drawers and the patio area.
Three things I don’t like are....I have trouble with where the sewer hose gets hooked up, I think that one door into the bedroom would have been fine-just a little overkill , and some of the cabinets are really high. Three things I love are...the patio area, the large couch and that shower.
My issue with most toy haulers is the lack of the division between the kitchen and a living area. I would love to have a L shaped sofa and a little booth dinette.
Hi Matt and Will! I enjoy watching you so much! We are newbies and are looking to purchase a Toy Hauler. Here is what I like about the Alliance: the Length: we don't need anything past the max of 42 Feet; 1/2 bath in the garage: love the length of the countertop; love the Kennsington couches with the extra extension: my husband is 6'3" with long legs; epoxy countertops are interesting. I love the epoxy in the bathroom of the Paradigm but not sure about the kitchen; I like the side area around the stovetop where a spoon rest, utensil holder, or spice rack could be stored. My dislikes: The sink in the bathroom is too small; the kitchen sink I prefer divided. This may be my preference but I like the washer/dryer in the garage. It would give more space for clothes in the hull of the Alliance. The last dislike would be the latch on the closet that you mentioned. A magnet clip would be much better but I understand the latch would hold the doors in place during transportation. One other question regarding the patio: Is the patio entrance/exit (side) moveable to another spot? Since I have a tall husband he would strangle himself on the cord when entering/exiting the side patio. Maybe it could be moved to the back of the patio. Love your videos! I'm excited to begin a new adventure in our lives.
I've been waiting for this review!!🤗 #1 dislike....no washer dryer prep in the garage! Quit taking the already limited wardrobe space away!! Especially when there's a garage!👎👎👎 #2 Agree with y'all not a fan of the epoxy counter top in the kitchen. #3 All storage shelves should be adjustable. #1 Like that the vents are not in the floor. #2 Awesome tie down option in the garage #3 the glass door to the garage Thanks for the review!!
Alliance knocked it out of the park!!! Great toy hauler. LOVE the patio setup ( awning above solid steps screen doors!!) love the garage tv half bath and the tie downs, Love the bath (shower especially) love the kitchen think the stove is small but workable space around stove is small but good for your stuff spices spoon spatula etc. Love the couch and tv area. LOVE NO CARPET YEAH!!!! Love the GENNY . Dislike no outdoor tv (maybe ok with the garage having one) ply rating on tires ( kinda important on big a** fifth wheels) OVERALL this now makes me have a hard decision a 5er or toy hauler the back deck area etc is a plus but a true 5er have slightly better layout inside. Hmmmm......
The little countertop beside the stove isnt for stuff. Its so your pot handles have room. If u had straight wall beside stove, couldnt use four pots or for fry pan handles.
WOW ! I'm gonna have to rethink not liking 5th wheels / no dislikes / just note the majority of ppl don't even use 4 burners on their stove at home so they could have just put in 2 and moved them over. This ones pretty much perfect.
As a biker, who could imagine this as a mobile base for lovely trips: Likes: Patio with guardrails and awning - for cleaning and fixing small stuff, or as an evening patio Bunkbeds in the garage and salon - with 4 guys (4 bikes would fit in the garage easily) everyone can have their own bed Large couch in the salon - ideal to have a talk and edit videos in the evening Dislikes: Weird stove and countertop placement/size - sort of unplanned where i put it, there it stays layout Weird toilet placement in the main bathroom Barstools - Tiny
Matt, I may not be the only one, but I’m taking your dislike away from you on the counter beside the stove. I like the counter because (1) pot handles can swing away from the stove and not hit the walls, (2) spices, pot holders, and utensils can sit beside the pots for easy and fast access when cooking, (3) the pots and pans can be grabbed and lifted away from the stove without banging in the walls that are too close to the stove top. Very nice review and comments. Thanks for your hard work.
General question, I love the space a toy hauler provides. But I don’t have toys. Can you get them with a regular room in the back for an art studio or craft room? And with a regular set of doors to the patio and without all the couches and beds coming down from the ceiling? Are they 4 seasons? Solar ready?
Likes - 1) patio , 2) living area with the bar dining , 3) kitchen area Dislikes -1) Epoxy outside the bathroom ( could be sold just not sure how it will stand up to heat and wear) , 2) toilet placement in back bathroom, 3) can't come up with a third outside I want to be full time 18 months early. Lol.
I like that there’s room to walk between the tv and recliner when in the recline position. I’d rather the loft be accessed from the garage area. I love the east/west bed. Needs a convection microwave combo. I think ALL rvs should have on demand hot water. Bathroom needs a better sink area. I think it’s ridiculous to put the w/d connections in the closet/bedroom area when it’s a toy hauler…… connections should be in the garage!!!! We are looking for a TH to full time in……we currently have a Riverstone 39FK. It’s extremely nice but we are needing more storage! Luv your videos 👍❗️.
Thanks for the review, this is closest toyhauler to the momentm 381, i am looking for a new toy hauler and the v15 is now on my list. Would like to see an outside shower, would rather have the washer dryer in the garage, not sure about those kitchen counter tops, they may be nice but look cheap. Love the big shower, you did mention the air compressure, but what a great idea, and the big couch. Thanks Keith
I was going to buy a grand design momentum and I was told about alliance. So thank you so much for this video I think I may look into buying in alliance instead of grand design
I like that the owners have alot of previous experience. I like that they do not use luan. I like that they are using the PVC roof material. I do not like that they are sourcing Lippert chassis. I think they need to use heavier axles to give you a buffer over loaded capacity. Also would rather see dexter axels , torsion type with shocks added instead of leaf springs. Also it's a toy hauler so needs good ground clearance because boondockings is what they get used for and that includes good clearance of drain pipes.
I like all the various places in the garage to use. Love the patio. I don’t understand how u get toys up into the garage. Does the cables come off to lower the floor ? I’m confused. I also do like the living area and I don’t the the counter tops are bad at all I like the shine. The small counters around the stove can be handy for utensils and spices. Nice bedroom. All in all I really like it
LIKES: No frameless windows...get better circulation The back patio and all the perks that come with it Sorry Matt, I like the little extra counter space, as a cook I’ll take all the space I can get DISLIKES: I hate the door locks on the closet, location sucks too The epoxy counters in kitchen The weird position of the toilet in the main bath, remove a door, 2 aren’t needed anyhow
They should make the stove all the way to the wall either side so they can have enough space to set a pot or a pan by the stove and store them beside the stove.
I have been really interested in learning more about the Alliance line. My biggest concern is the fresh water capacity and Alliance fills that very well. The 5rs have almost 100 gallons and this model is 175 gallons of fresh water which is huge. But I saw two things in the video that are deal breakers. Being a fairly quick video, I'm not sure that this is as bad as I think it is. The back patio side entry looks like you will get clotheslined by the support cable coming from the roof to the deck. The second item makes the small cabinet in the entryway into the kitchen and under the control panel unusable to food storage and some other heat sensitive goods. I really want to have the heat vents in the cabinets, but this one doesn't work. It has an empty space where the vent is inside that bottom shelf will dump out all the hot air into that cabinet before is make it's way out of the cabinet vent. You need to duct that vent to the outside of the cabinet and not dump the air inside to be wasted. I could be wrong on both problems but from what I saw in the video sure looks like there is a problem
Some things I like - E-Track in garage floor. I have different toys that require different tie down methods. Versatility is key. East-West bed, provides way more room. Some things I don't like - I'm actually NOT a fan of the Lippert steps, or any comparable steps. In tight spots you can't get them out if you have another large RV next to you. I hate that all current toyhauler models expect you to eat in the garage. nobody provides an actual dining space any more. I'm not sure why the flip-up bar counter doesn't run the full length of that island. Not a fan of the AC vents in that cabinet. Once you set things in there it will block those vents. Should have had a bottom shelf to keep your items from blocking the vents. As a commercial kitchen designer (my day job), I hate epoxy countertops. If you set a hot pan on them without something under it, the epoxy will soften and you'll destroy your countertop, it's only a matter of time. Epoxy has NO place in a kitchen!
Would love to see what alliance could do with a travel trailer at or under 30 feet tip to tip length... not every one wants a rig thats 36 - 45 feet long... love their products just hopefully they make something smaller in the future 🙏 ☺
I don't like the epoxy countertops. Stove/Oven is nice. A spoon rest is the only thing you can put next to the stove. Soft close is awesome! Like the big sofa.
Don’t like the side ladder, no counter top space by range, cable on the patio where gate is. Like space in bedroom and bathroom and the 2 awnings. Thanks Matt and Wil!
Extra space around the stove is to allow room for pot and pan handles. Units that have no space are a pain to cook in!
Also a place to put your stirring spoons
I agree, also when you’re cooking the side counters are good to put spoons, spices etc while cooking.
And they are also easier to clean if you splash grease, food, etc. on them. They make a good protector for the little storage cabinets below them.
And cooking oils!
Mostly for heat from burners not being right next to a wall !!
i disagree about the side space beside the stove. that's a prime space to have commonly used spices, spoon rests, a jar of cooking utensils, condiments, oven mitts, trivets, etc.
if it wasn't there you would definitely miss it.
And you need area for skillet handles to extend and bigger pots to hange over. Plus the heat and steam on walls so close would be problematic.
Yes I agree with you on that plus a spot for putting a kitchen knife 🗡️🔪 holder
The area around the cooktop is great for cooking oils, salt and pepper etc. You can put a spoon rest there for your utensils you’re using. Absolutely necessary!
We need a new video on this unit! You're the BEST reviews!! Please update your videos.
You are the best narrator for RV’s ever.😂
First of all, Thank You very much for taking us on an outside tour! Nobody has done that, even the website doesn't show it. My bad list, move the half bath to the garage as an option. Mama needs counter space in the kitchen, #2 get glow steps for outside, #3. have the fuel tank for water or fuel.
I plan to use the toy area as an office or work room.
My favorites #1, I agreed with yours, but really love the hard doors in garage area for more use in marginal weather. #2 I do like the counters, their supposed to be very durable. #3 no carpeting, I have dogs and I'm known to spill every now and then. Thank You again for such a great review!!
The epoxy countertops is one of the main things that draws us back to this brand over Grand Design. But that's because my wife is an artist that works with resin and epoxy all the time, we have a great appreciation for it.
4 Likes:
1: Nice kitchen with good storage and nice Insignia range with big oven
2: Both bathrooms are a good size, and the shower looks really nice
3: Large multi-purpose garage with patio
4: Slick exterior paint job and decals
2 Dislikes:
1: Interior decor is bland, the Paradigm has a more interesting interior decor
2: Heavy hitch weight
I absolutely love everything about this toy hauler! They freaking knocked it out of the park. My 3 favorite things, 175 gallons of water!!! The pantry!! And washer dryer prep in the bedroom! The full length awnings, 60 gallons of fuel, coffee bar, stove and shower with the fold down seat are awesome too. This is my favorite toyhauler right now and I have had several in the past and have a voltage 4005 right now. This makes me want to trade. The only thing I'd like to see is permanent bar stools like the Raptor and dishwasher. This toy hauler gives a lot of bang for being under 40ft! Love it! Good job Alliance! The only thing I hate is the placement of the middle jack. It should be closer to the tires as it will drag going off road... Don't ask me how I know 😉.
Edit- Alliance's website says only 98 gallons of water. Can you confirm it has 175 gallons?
Need an updated review of this unit!
Love the side gate instead of the rear gate for ramp steps. Lot sites are often too short for end access.
I’ve got the Paradigm 370FB & my wife & I really like it. You mentioned their customer service & I can confirm it is EXCELLENT! We’d like to get the toy hauler for the office space, but we have a residential refrigerator & would like to see that in the hauler as well. Keep up the great work Matt!
Three things I love...
1-It’s a 5th wheel toy hauler that’s under 40 ft WITH 1.5 bathrooms and w/d hookups which are our top wants
2-the master shower tile is gorgeous and large
3-it has electric recliners on sofa which won’t fall down with the weight of your legs
Three things I dislike
1-I detest toy hauler washer and dryer hookups in the master bedroom closet instead of garage, even with an 11 ft garage. My husband is a travel RN who sometimes works nights and I’d like to be able to do laundry while he sleeps during the day.
2-I really wish all four seats reclined in the couch...there are four of us and that might be why we don’t buy this one 😭
3-we would rather have the loft face towards the garage which we use for a bunk room when not going down the road with our motorcycle and golf cart
I think the few inches of counter space next to the stove is great! Most cooks have cooking utensils and big spoons to stir the food while cooking! Great video!
Man this would make an AWESOME MOBILE WOOD-SHOP!!!!!!!
Like> 1. kitchen 2. bedroom 3. Garage w/ porch
dislike > 1. Clips down on the ground 2. epoxy counter tops 3.No counter space near stove 4. I CANT AFFORD ONE YET!!!!!
I actually really love the extra counter space around the stove, I LOVE the fold out breakfast bar, and the extra long recliner sofa! A few things that I wish this had, because there is not much that I don’t like, is a central vacuum, the ability to net in the top bunk in the garage and a jacknife middle part of the sofa so there is an extra “bed” inside for smaller kids. If my husband didn’t have cancer then this is the fifth wheel/toy hauler we would get this year! But cancer costs and stuff, means probably a small travel trailer to visit family on the opposite side of the country instead because we are not supposed to fly. But anything is better than nothing and still a wonderful privilege to have, but a girl can dream! Oh and the awning off the back, GENIUS! Great job Alliance! Edit: Oh and I would absolutely love away to prep the camp side storage area for a coffee pot and tiny fridge if we want to make our own tiny outdoor kitchen while being stationary!
Lmao Matt you said there is storage underneath the dinette but you lifted up the bedstorage
I cought that too
I’m glad I’m not the only one who has the wrong word come out of my mouth! Lol Great Review!
I actually like a little space next to the stove, rest spoons or spatulas there
Likes: 3 ACs, counter space, shower
Dislikes: locks on closet doors, epoxy counters in kitchen, no 2nd solid step
Like
1. Floorplan overall use of space
2. Compartment set up under 5th wheel
3. Kitchen appliances
Dont like
1. Small sink in bathroom
2. Countertops
3. Washer Dryer in the closet set up the way it is, scratch the half bath and give me laundry room
I like Toy Haulers, but Alliance knows how to make them better and give you more for the money. Love they give you three air conditioning units, the half bath on the back, entrance to the garage, black and grey water dump station enclosed, the 5,500watts generator, it is simply perfect 👍🏻.
3 things I liked : Roller Shades. Tint looking color on the cabinets. The Control Panel had its own cabinet. 3 things I disliked : A Sink on the Island. End tables Over the bed some. No Washer and Dryer. Good one. Thanks.
I love this! The storage is great, love the shower and the extra counter top. No dislikes on this one.
I think the small space on either side of the stove would be great for spices that you're working with and also a spoon holder/spoon! I loved the deep storage above the fridge for a pizza stone or larger serving plates! I think whoever designed that kitchen did a great job with a small amount of space!
While I don't like not having counter space next to the stover I appreciate what they did offer because it gives you room to put pans with handles so they don't stick out over the other burners.
The small counters on either side of the stove are spacers for pot/pan handles when using multiple burners at the same time. They are Absolutely necessary - love the cutting board/pizza pan/cookie sheet/ cooling rack storage below those counters.
Hello, wow very nice! I love the garage and patio, love the island, sofa, love the shower. For the price, solid surface countertops, bathroom sink is way to small. Great job guys.👍👍❤❤
The space around the stove is useful. You can set a spoon rest there and any spices or oils used while cooking. That other spot would make a perfect coffee station as long as there’s an outlet there.
I really liked this floor plan. Good job, guys!
Love the one dump hook up for both black tanks easy tracks is flush in the floor no high raise less tripping over them. USB ports next to the bed.
Dislikes back door should open to the wall side so you don't have to walk around it. switches for the bed and lights in the garage should be on the wall as you come in to high where they are. no fuel gauge inside for the Generator. no place for a large trash can. no locks on the bathroom doors .
Fantastic toy hauler. The tie downs, both baths, furniture, storage, etc are all great. I like the flip up counter and don't mind the synthetic countertops. This is a well thought out unit.
Wow! Nice toy hauler! I absolutely love the ease of the patio set-up, but I actually hate the smelly, dirty part of the toy haulers...I would much rather pull a trailer with the toys in it, than have them stored inside the living unit. That’s just me, of course. Really a nice looking RV. Excellent adjustment ability for the TV...great job, Alliance. Absolutely stellar idea for the kitchen island with the pull-up eating bar. Beautiful, solid sounding cabinets. Definitely needs an all-around splash guard around the range...and LOVE having a four burner cooktop! Color scheme not too dark and not too light. AND THAT SHOWER!!! Love, love, love it! This is really an EXCELLENT unit!
Wow! I haven't seen one of these in awhile. Woulda been fun when I was younger. Great for a family or outdoors loving couple(s). However, I dislike the drab cabinets, the drab colors throughout (ugly back splash) and no dishwasher. I love the layout including the patio and garage, the kitchen island counter, and the king bed with storage.
Love the interior the screen doors for the garage and awning over the ramp for the patio
Don't like the gate in the patio fence has the cable running through where you walk through not lowering the propane tanks to fit a 40 pound tank
I saw a few Alliance toy haulers at the Beaumont Texas RV show a couple months ago. I was very impressed with their color choices, quality, and floor plans. I'm looking to replace my 2013 triple axle voltage with another triple axel
That time, I'm kinda glad that you didn;t climb that ladder-Whew! 😊Lots of light in the living area with awesome seating from the windows!/Awesome sleeping areas and ramp to a patio!/The kitchen appliances and bathrooms are on point!!🙄I agree with the kitchen countertop-100% is needed./More storage is needed at the entry area/The closet doors are a hassle.
The entry steps onto the back patio...looks like you could get clothes lined by the cable supports for the ramp door
You dont need the Cable if the steps are in use ! they have a Support on both side that go to the ground !
@@maintainingmomentum Thank Goodness!
Concerning the little counter space beside the stove. It's not much, but a great place for a couple of spoon rests!
One thing to think about folks and this happen to us.
In the kitchen if the kitchen isle is to close to the Fridge you will have issues sliding the fridge out for repairs.
This happened to us, fridge failed , repair guy came out and could not slide the fridge out because of the kitchen isle and refused to remove the isle.
We where out of luck and no fridge for a while till it finally went in for repairs, keep in mind if not for the kitchen isle in the way the repair would have been done right there.
Food for thought folk
Needs frameless windows, wet bay needs to be sealed off from storage area. Needs electric cord reel. Whisper quiet ac system.
Yeah, the price of this unit is high tier, but the amenities are mid-tier.
You actually get better air flow with these widows ! frames cant really open like these .
The 4 things I like about this fifth wheel toy hauler:
1. no vents in the floor and no carpet
2. the TV in the garage comes down for a netter viewing angle
3. the patio doors
4. the soft closing cabinetry and toilet
The 3 things I don't like about this fifth wheel toy hauler:
1. the patio gate placement
2. the closet door latches
3. epoxy countertops
I dislike the patio rail door being right next to the door cable. I really like the door on the side just needs to be move so your not doing the limbo trying to get around it. I love the big shower and wet bay. Also I feel the small sides on the stove allow for pan handles to be on the sides instead of taking space over the burners.
Looks great! You always see in the reviews of toy haulers, that people are considering them because they want the garage to be an other self designed living space, like an office or etc. Give us a clean slate without the bed or couches. And make the gas tank for more water. I'm thinking 2 person hot tub or walk in bathtub room!
I really like this toy hauler! Alliance builds first class units and this just fits in their lineup. The only real dislike I have is the patio entrance should be on the back and not the side because the support cable is in the way. Another slight dislike is I wish the W/D hookups were in the garage, that way the closet up front would have a larger capacity. The epoxy counter tops that so many are screaming about are actually very durable and I have no problem with them. I wouldn't use it for a toy hauler though; that garage would be my office! Thanks for another great review guys! Keep it up!
Love the deck, the shower the kitchen, wish the would add more counter by the stovetop. There isn't really anything bad about this rig.
I'm OK with the Epoxy counter tops. Also for a toy hauler the oven counter space is better than not having anything at all, like some other I have seen. It's just enough space to allow pot handles to be off the side than over a burner. This unit appears to have plenty of counter space for cooking serving while leaving a coffee station up as well. Great review by the way.
Love the island. No white or gray kitchen cabinets wonderful. Wish shower was smooth walled.
Matt, your wrong about the little bit of counter space by the range, you need that for spoon rest when cooking and salt and pepper, and elbow room while cooking. The thing I not sure about is the access to that bunk over a doorway, you keep a ladder in front of the door.
Love the size of the bedroom, love the patio, and love the doors to the patio door. Hate the bunk, the over the cab in the garage, and only want a couples theater seat in the living space. Mostly because the toy hauler part would be my studio.
I wish someone would create a hybrid between a towable and towable toy hauler. I don't need a garage or toy space but I would love a 3 season room and patio without losing so much indoor living space. Maybe make the garage half the size to extend the indoor living space.
It is a nice looking RV. Without the drop frame it looks like a mid level unit but the cost is high level. The Weight capacity is very low. I don’t like that the ducts are not ducted. I know what Alliance says but I rather have quiet ducted units. I don’t like the shades. I have seen first hand and on other reviews where they get all bent up very easily. The counter tops look very cheap. (Mid level unit) In the master area the toilet location is ridiculous spot. Whoever designed this, have they ever RV’d with their spouse or partner??? The washer and dryer location does make any sense.
What I do like is, the wheels, stove, the soft close toilet lids and drawers and the patio area.
The toilet placement in the forward bathroom is so bizarre..a deal breaker for me..and I can’t believe that wasn’t a dislike for Matt or Wil.
Three things I don’t like are....I have trouble with where the sewer hose gets hooked up, I think that one door into the bedroom would have been fine-just a little overkill , and some of the cabinets are really high. Three things I love are...the patio area, the large couch and that shower.
Counter tops are durable and Far Lighter than Solid surface so it saves weight for more Cargo !!!
My issue with most toy haulers is the lack of the division between the kitchen and a living area. I would love to have a L shaped sofa and a little booth dinette.
Hi Matt and Will! I enjoy watching you so much! We are newbies and are looking to purchase a Toy Hauler. Here is what I like about the Alliance: the Length: we don't need anything past the max of 42 Feet; 1/2 bath in the garage: love the length of the countertop; love the Kennsington couches with the extra extension: my husband is 6'3" with long legs; epoxy countertops are interesting. I love the epoxy in the bathroom of the Paradigm but not sure about the kitchen; I like the side area around the stovetop where a spoon rest, utensil holder, or spice rack could be stored. My dislikes: The sink in the bathroom is too small; the kitchen sink I prefer divided. This may be my preference but I like the washer/dryer in the garage. It would give more space for clothes in the hull of the Alliance. The last dislike would be the latch on the closet that you mentioned. A magnet clip would be much better but I understand the latch would hold the doors in place during transportation.
One other question regarding the patio: Is the patio entrance/exit (side) moveable to another spot? Since I have a tall husband he would strangle himself on the cord when entering/exiting the side patio. Maybe it could be moved to the back of the patio.
Love your videos! I'm excited to begin a new adventure in our lives.
I've been waiting for this review!!🤗
#1 dislike....no washer dryer prep in the garage! Quit taking the already limited wardrobe space away!! Especially when there's a garage!👎👎👎 #2 Agree with y'all not a fan of the epoxy counter top in the kitchen. #3 All storage shelves should be adjustable.
#1 Like that the vents are not in the floor.
#2 Awesome tie down option in the garage
#3 the glass door to the garage
Thanks for the review!!
Alliance knocked it out of the park!!! Great toy hauler. LOVE the patio setup ( awning above solid steps screen doors!!) love the garage tv half bath and the tie downs, Love the bath (shower especially) love the kitchen think the stove is small but workable space around stove is small but good for your stuff spices spoon spatula etc. Love the couch and tv area. LOVE NO CARPET YEAH!!!! Love the GENNY . Dislike no outdoor tv (maybe ok with the garage having one) ply rating on tires ( kinda important on big a** fifth wheels)
OVERALL this now makes me have a hard decision a 5er or toy hauler the back deck area etc is a plus but a true 5er have slightly better layout inside. Hmmmm......
The little countertop beside the stove isnt for stuff. Its so your pot handles have room. If u had straight wall beside stove, couldnt use four pots or for fry pan handles.
WOW ! I'm gonna have to rethink not liking 5th wheels / no dislikes / just note the majority of ppl don't even use 4 burners on their stove at home so they could have just put in 2 and moved them over. This ones pretty much perfect.
As a biker, who could imagine this as a mobile base for lovely trips:
Likes:
Patio with guardrails and awning - for cleaning and fixing small stuff, or as an evening patio
Bunkbeds in the garage and salon - with 4 guys (4 bikes would fit in the garage easily) everyone can have their own bed
Large couch in the salon - ideal to have a talk and edit videos in the evening
Dislikes:
Weird stove and countertop placement/size - sort of unplanned where i put it, there it stays layout
Weird toilet placement in the main bathroom
Barstools - Tiny
Matt, I may not be the only one, but I’m taking your dislike away from you on the counter beside the stove. I like the counter because (1) pot handles can swing away from the stove and not hit the walls, (2) spices, pot holders, and utensils can sit beside the pots for easy and fast access when cooking, (3) the pots and pans can be grabbed and lifted away from the stove without banging in the walls that are too close to the stove top. Very nice review and comments. Thanks for your hard work.
The space on each side of the stove is for the frying pan handles to hang over.
General question, I love the space a toy hauler provides. But I don’t have toys. Can you get them with a regular room in the back for an art studio or craft room? And with a regular set of doors to the patio and without all the couches and beds coming down from the ceiling? Are they 4 seasons? Solar ready?
Likes - 1) patio , 2) living area with the bar dining , 3) kitchen area
Dislikes -1) Epoxy outside the bathroom ( could be sold just not sure how it will stand up to heat and wear) , 2) toilet placement in back bathroom, 3) can't come up with a third outside I want to be full time 18 months early. Lol.
I like that there’s room to walk between the tv and recliner when in the recline position. I’d rather the loft be accessed from the garage area. I love the east/west bed. Needs a convection microwave combo. I think ALL rvs should have on demand hot water. Bathroom needs a better sink area. I think it’s ridiculous to put the w/d connections in the closet/bedroom area when it’s a toy hauler…… connections should be in the garage!!!! We are looking for a TH to full time in……we currently have a Riverstone 39FK. It’s extremely nice but we are needing more storage! Luv your videos 👍❗️.
I love the interior look and furniture and a lot of features including the entertainment
The generator is not propane, it is gasoline. If it was propane it would say LP on it.
Another entertaining rv video from Matt's rv. Lol. Thank you!
Thanks for the review, this is closest toyhauler to the momentm 381, i am looking for a new toy hauler and the v15 is now on my list. Would like to see an outside shower, would rather have the washer dryer in the garage, not sure about those kitchen counter tops, they may be nice but look cheap. Love the big shower, you did mention the air compressure, but what a great idea, and the big couch. Thanks Keith
I was going to buy a grand design momentum and I was told about alliance. So thank you so much for this video I think I may look into buying in alliance instead of grand design
The floor plan in the momentum and the valor are identical floor plans
I'm also torn between this model and the Grand Design 351 toy hauler. The floor plans are almost identical but there are tiny difference.
Matt can we see the awning extended on these also? Thanks😊
I like that the owners have alot of previous experience. I like that they do not use luan. I like that they are using the PVC roof material. I do not like that they are sourcing Lippert chassis. I think they need to use heavier axles to give you a buffer over loaded capacity. Also would rather see dexter axels , torsion type with shocks added instead of leaf springs. Also it's a toy hauler so needs good ground clearance because boondockings is what they get used for and that includes good clearance of drain pipes.
No look at the roof? Love the extra space beside the stove for pot handles.
more water storage is a must
Matt ! I love the alliance 5 th wheel but I’m not feeling the toy hauler! But it’s just a personal preference!
I do agree with your dislikes BUT I LOVE EVERYTHING ELSE with this toy hauler!
So many things I like than dislike.
I have this floor plan and many others in Alliance! They are amazing!
I like all the various places in the garage to use. Love the patio. I don’t understand how u get toys up into the garage. Does the cables come off to lower the floor ? I’m confused. I also do like the living area and I don’t the the counter tops are bad at all I like the shine. The small counters around the stove can be handy for utensils and spices. Nice bedroom. All in all I really like it
I meant to say I don’t think the counter tops are bad
Love the legs on ramp door
Best Price in America by Matt&Will Team papapapam 😉 Everyrhing you need inside plus plus and you could actually live permanently there 👍ping
THANK YOU for uploading in 4K.
LIKES:
No frameless windows...get better circulation
The back patio and all the perks that come with it
Sorry Matt, I like the little extra counter space, as a cook I’ll take all the space I can get
DISLIKES:
I hate the door locks on the closet, location sucks too
The epoxy counters in kitchen
The weird position of the toilet in the main bath, remove a door, 2 aren’t needed anyhow
Definitely has amazing oven and microwave
Azdel and the overbuilt suspension should push alliance to number one!
wish washer and dryer hook ups were in the garage. we need all the closet space we can get
I like the generator, garage, and the kitchen. I don't like the epoxy countertops, and the side ladder
Could you please tell me if you see this ?? I think I might have been muted
I heard you give the G tire rating hopefully you will continue with future tire ratings.
Love this toy hauler😄
They should make the stove all the way to the wall either side so they can have enough space to set a pot or a pan by the stove and store them beside the stove.
I would have liked to see a 13’ garage in this unit.
I have been really interested in learning more about the Alliance line. My biggest concern is the fresh water capacity and Alliance fills that very well. The 5rs have almost 100 gallons and this model is 175 gallons of fresh water which is huge. But I saw two things in the video that are deal breakers. Being a fairly quick video, I'm not sure that this is as bad as I think it is. The back patio side entry looks like you will get clotheslined by the support cable coming from the roof to the deck. The second item makes the small cabinet in the entryway into the kitchen and under the control panel unusable to food storage and some other heat sensitive goods. I really want to have the heat vents in the cabinets, but this one doesn't work. It has an empty space where the vent is inside that bottom shelf will dump out all the hot air into that cabinet before is make it's way out of the cabinet vent. You need to duct that vent to the outside of the cabinet and not dump the air inside to be wasted. I could be wrong on both problems but from what I saw in the video sure looks like there is a problem
why were the lights in the bedroom flickering? Also the little counter next to the stove is good for stirring spoons etc...
The lights appear to be flickering because the camera records at a certain frame rate while lights run at a certain frequency.
I saw on a different video that the stools fold up and fit in those narrow cabinets on the side of the stove.
I was looking for this review, good work
Why is the door on the patio right in the way of the cable that is so silly that they would do that
There are struts on the ramp door that support it when the patio is set up.
@@chrishunt6278 yup, put the legs down and the cable is gone.
It has everything u can ask for only thing that would make it better would have been an out side small kitchen
Great design. I’m thinking of getting one even though I may not need it for toys.
Great reviews. Just landed on your bids looking at 5th wheel reviews. Hilarious.
Some things I like -
E-Track in garage floor. I have different toys that require different tie down methods. Versatility is key.
East-West bed, provides way more room.
Some things I don't like -
I'm actually NOT a fan of the Lippert steps, or any comparable steps. In tight spots you can't get them out if you have another large RV next to you.
I hate that all current toyhauler models expect you to eat in the garage. nobody provides an actual dining space any more.
I'm not sure why the flip-up bar counter doesn't run the full length of that island.
Not a fan of the AC vents in that cabinet. Once you set things in there it will block those vents. Should have had a bottom shelf to keep your items from blocking the vents.
As a commercial kitchen designer (my day job), I hate epoxy countertops. If you set a hot pan on them without something under it, the epoxy will soften and you'll destroy your countertop, it's only a matter of time. Epoxy has NO place in a kitchen!
Would love to see what alliance could do with a travel trailer at or under 30 feet tip to tip length... not every one wants a rig thats 36 - 45 feet long... love their products just hopefully they make something smaller in the future 🙏 ☺
They are coming. They have just built another production area to build the travel trailer line.
I don't like the epoxy countertops. Stove/Oven is nice. A spoon rest is the only thing you can put next to the stove. Soft close is awesome! Like the big sofa.
Don’t like the side ladder, no counter top space by range, cable on the patio where gate is. Like space in bedroom and bathroom and the 2 awnings. Thanks Matt and Wil!