I Just Broke My Airplane Wing - What I Learned | Scrappy #47

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  • I put my wing spar design to the test. After designing and extruding my own custom aluminum, I finally get to test it...to the breaking point. Watch as I put all the engineering to the test!
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Комментарии • 1,8 тыс.

  • @superchargedpetrolhead
    @superchargedpetrolhead 3 года назад +675

    If i had professors like you in my engineering classes, I wouldn't have slept through most of them....

    • @chevyon37s
      @chevyon37s 3 года назад +58

      People like him never become professors, because he’s got better things to do, and actually put his knowledge to use!

    • @a351must2
      @a351must2 3 года назад +33

      @@chevyon37s Those who can, do; those who can't, teach

    • @darrelrobbins
      @darrelrobbins 3 года назад +9

      Teacher of the year

    • @christhirion9474
      @christhirion9474 3 года назад +7

      @@a351must2
      And those who can't teach consults.
      From a ex consulting engineer.

    • @kwaaaa
      @kwaaaa 3 года назад +28

      I think a lot of things being taught is abstract and is completely lost on students. In a sense, a lot of things are taught backwards, like you learn a bunch of equations and theory, but have no anchor to how it applies to reality. Sometimes learning the "why" helps people understand the "how".

  • @HomeBuiltByJeff
    @HomeBuiltByJeff 3 года назад +122

    I love seeing this level of real world testing, and it is amazing to see how accurately CAD modelling can come to real world results. Great stuff.

    • @TheSOMotorsports
      @TheSOMotorsports 3 года назад +3

      Oh shit! one of my favorite channels commenting on one of my other favorites!! love the work from both of ya!!

    • @michaelmcneil4168
      @michaelmcneil4168 3 года назад +1

      Can' they use carbon fibre spars

    • @alexanderunguez9633
      @alexanderunguez9633 3 года назад +1

      @@michaelmcneil4168 FEM and classic analysis work really well with metals but analysis on carbon fiber is incredibly complex and is still not very well understood. The other drawback of carbonfiber is that it's not very flexible. You can push metal past it's loading point in a pinch without a catastrophic fracture, but composites tend to shatter. This is why designers tend to pick metals for load bearing structure parts and composites for low risk parts.

  • @StevenCampbell1955
    @StevenCampbell1955 3 года назад +245

    " Only needed four, but I bought a pallet load of 32." Only Patey.

    • @rodneyross5282
      @rodneyross5282 3 года назад +10

      I think he has a plan lol.

    • @pete_mitchell
      @pete_mitchell 3 года назад +18

      @@rodneyross5282 yes, he Said it on The video, minimum order quantity IS a pallet. He joked about making tables from The extra ones.

    • @richardmartin6533
      @richardmartin6533 3 года назад +38

      No, It's not just Mike... I had a neighbor who built a house on a lake. He ordered the roof tiles from a company in South America, they were back-ordered and wouldn't arrive on time... So, he flew down, bought the company, put his order first, got his roofing tiles... then turned around and sold the company and made a profit!!!

    • @ChoppersModelworks
      @ChoppersModelworks 3 года назад +5

      I'm thinking a second wing design might be in the future. One for slow STOL work and another for general flying with general STOL abilities.

    • @grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346
      @grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346 3 года назад +5

      No Worries, I Beleive That Mike Has Plans To Going Into Productions Of New $High$ Super STOL LONG-Range Fully High Powered Electric + Carbon Fiber - 4-Seater+ Aireo-Planes & Now He Can Carry Lots Of Extra Batteries Weights Fur-Sure!!! 🤣

  • @keepitsimpleengineer
    @keepitsimpleengineer 3 года назад +22

    "One physical test is worth more than a thousand expert opinions" 🤔

  • @andresuribe8765
    @andresuribe8765 3 года назад +43

    You know Mike is cool and entertaining when I just watched over 30 minutes of a guy wrenching on a scale and writing numbers down and I’m sad that the video wasn’t longer (as always with every video) 💪🏼

  • @wimbraber944
    @wimbraber944 3 года назад +62

    Mike: Nothing wrong with gaining 20% strength through adding a few pounds of ribs...
    Me: let’s fire up de BBQ

  • @xpeterson
    @xpeterson 3 года назад +141

    “They’ll have to be large orders to avoid suspicion”
    “How Large”
    “Say, 10,000”
    “At least we’ll have spares”

    • @hadleymanmusic
      @hadleymanmusic 3 года назад +4

      And even scrap short pieces can be made
      " carrythroughs"

    • @sammiller5509
      @sammiller5509 3 года назад +2

      Hmmmmmmmmm🤔😅

    • @fuzzgutterwins3
      @fuzzgutterwins3 3 года назад +10

      Mike could be Batman.

    • @Noahlochner0
      @Noahlochner0 3 года назад +21

      @@fuzzgutterwins3 you ever see batman and Mike patey in the same place at the same time? Me either. Coincidence? There’s a good possibility he IS batman. Haha

    • @SkyWriter25
      @SkyWriter25 3 года назад +6

      @@Noahlochner0
      Q: Where does he get those wonderful toys?
      A: He makes them! Back to work!!!

  • @mikejw58
    @mikejw58 3 года назад +16

    The poor paint mixer at Home Depot was heard saying, " What happened to all my paint sticks"

  • @CKOD
    @CKOD 3 года назад +93

    "I dont see any reason why I'd try and hang a cub from my wingtip" He says now, but now that he knows he can do it, its gonna start to look awfully convenient when someone else gets a flat landing on some mountainside somewhere and you need to lift their plane to swap a wheel :)

    • @kronik907
      @kronik907 3 года назад +5

      There ARE two carbon cubs being built nearby, so theoretically he could test this theory out in the hangar.

    • @danblumel
      @danblumel 3 года назад

      It would tip over, no counterweight on the other wing.

    • @realulli
      @realulli 3 года назад +4

      @@danblumel Just have another Carbon Cub fly in and play counterweight. ;-)

    • @aerospot2
      @aerospot2 3 года назад

      Show me how you would do it?

    • @realulli
      @realulli 3 года назад

      @@aerospot2 Not sure how, but if he can hang one off one wing, I assume he can hang one off the other, too!

  • @johnfraser2407
    @johnfraser2407 3 года назад +15

    I recently retired as a physicist whose work included FEA as a design tool. I have been doing FEA for decades. It is always a thrill and tremendously satisfying when physical tests match the FEA predictions. FEA is a microscope, X-Ray viewer, time machine, and material selector all rolled into one.

  • @budrohammbone2806
    @budrohammbone2806 3 года назад +39

    Well Done, Professor. My Wife is a HS Math Teacher of 30 years.
    I have often given her Hot Rod publications to see how the math applies
    to auto motorsport. These aviation projects, Draco and Scrappy, provide
    a much wider example of applied sciences. My Daughter also teaches.
    She is involved in a "Project Based Learning" program that the HS Students
    find a need then design/create a solution, prototype and build, then market.
    I think that the 2 projects are worth creating a chronologically ordered
    VLog to use as a Teaching Tool. I think, Your Work on both Aircraft,
    would answer many questions the kids ask..... 'Why do I need all of this math ?', etc.

  • @lorendjones
    @lorendjones 3 года назад +11

    So, with a pallet of spars to play with, can we expect a limited production run? 😉😃
    I’m delighted to have a piece of Scrappy memorabilia coming my way! Thanks for making those available!

  • @jimskee44
    @jimskee44 3 года назад +75

    There are just some people you want to be around and hang out with and Mike is one of those people!!!! What an awesome human being!!

    • @drewt3210
      @drewt3210 3 года назад

      Pretty sure MP and Jason from Fireball Tool were separated at birth.

    • @paulodeoliveira3368
      @paulodeoliveira3368 3 года назад

      Him and Mark Rober.

  • @donbeary6394
    @donbeary6394 3 года назад +36

    "get physics, math and engineering .. machine it, draft it build it, test it, break it .. every time something new gets built, the entire world advances" .. The mantra that makes our world a better place

    • @stefveedub123
      @stefveedub123 3 года назад

      How cool would some artwork for this be, id put it on my wall!!

    • @frbb20
      @frbb20 3 года назад +1

      Also love that piece, and it also reminds me of a Daft Punks technologic 😅

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ 3 года назад

      Mass-Produce It*
      The world might advance but nobody benefits till you make one for everyone. Long live the capitalists.

    • @droge192
      @droge192 3 года назад

      Isn't it:- "IT'S physics, math and engineering...", rather than 'get'? Not to be picky, just that's what I always thought Mike was saying.

  • @tridelltransportation3603
    @tridelltransportation3603 3 года назад +110

    Ok I stopped at 2:48 because I couldn’t go on without saying,”you decided to extrude your own wing spar!!!!!!!!!!”
    I mean seriously, watching this channel is like having the Tom Swift books of my youth come to life.
    And building scrappy isn’t his real job!!!!!!
    Honestly, the man is simply amazing

    • @realulli
      @realulli 3 года назад +3

      I think he also designed his own airfoil...

    • @kirdazemar6931
      @kirdazemar6931 3 года назад +1

      Facts ✅

    • @tridelltransportation3603
      @tridelltransportation3603 3 года назад +1

      He’s one of the most amazing people on the planet
      Elon is a couple of laps behind Mike

    • @Mikesworld777
      @Mikesworld777 3 года назад +1

      Ron doesn’t like being on camera so it’s all his ideas. Mike is just the hired help 🤠😂

    • @timdrew4353
      @timdrew4353 3 года назад

      Hi Mike, love the wing spar testing. Like most beams if they don't suffer catastrophic failure due to fracture they fail under buckling. If would be a fun test to add a spar (shelf bracket) at the point of buckling. It should move the point of failure outboard. Maybe you could add another 200lbs to the load, pointless but fun to break a few more of those spars. Back to work...Tim

  • @rconger24
    @rconger24 3 года назад +7

    Mike seriously you should set up a bleacher section in your hanger and just sell tickets for the Draco giveaway fund.

  • @danielmoss2394
    @danielmoss2394 3 года назад +33

    Mike.... I am an Aerospace Engineer by education and this stuff you do is incredible. Yea, I could watch you do what you do all day.
    Yea, I’m living vicariously through you.

  • @matthewsellers82
    @matthewsellers82 3 года назад +12

    Talking to a professor at a major university, he was telling me he has a really hard time persuading many of his students that at some point they have to get away from their computers and actually build, test and verify.

    • @v1rotait23
      @v1rotait23 3 года назад +2

      Build, but that would mean getting off their computers and devices, getting out of their chair, room, basement, classroom, and lab and get dirty hands, and having to use a ruler, pencil, scriber, drills, drill-press, overalls, safety glasses, ear defenders, punches, drifts, hand and machine hacksaws, deburrer tools, ratchet tools, grind stones, grinders, mig/tig oxy, arc and spot welders, lathes, machining, sheet-metal skills and shears, mills and milling, cutting fluid, rivet guns, rivets, bolts, nuts, compressed air tools, socket sets, surface/depth gauges, levels, chain blocks, winches, hoists, hydraulic presses, hand cleaner, learn to polish your safety boots... What have I missed out?! ah, a floor broom, hand brush and pan and waste bin to sweep out the workshop after cleaning up! :)

    • @earthsciteach
      @earthsciteach 3 года назад +4

      The worst thing about being an engineer is being stuck behind a computer!

  • @twdog8106
    @twdog8106 3 года назад +106

    Holy crap, the level of engineering this man will go to for a one of a kind aircraft is absolutely ludicrous in the best way.
    I hate waiting to see the finished plane but I love watching this man’s passion for building it piece at a time.

    • @tridelltransportation3603
      @tridelltransportation3603 3 года назад +3

      I’m thinking this isn’t going to be a one of a kind.
      $10 says two years from now you can buy one.

    • @vironpayne3405
      @vironpayne3405 3 года назад +1

      Ludicrus. I think someone's already taken that name.
      Mike's insane passion remind's me of some of the old skool TV wrestlers going into a "Texas Lights Out Death Match." Mike is no holds barred sorts of man with his aircraft!

    • @danblumel
      @danblumel 3 года назад +2

      @@tridelltransportation3603 more likely a kit at first, maybe later certified. The cost for certification is prohibitive without significant quantity sales and takes years.

    • @TheJttv
      @TheJttv 3 года назад +7

      You say it is excessive for a one of a kind aircraft. I say it is him respecting his life and not wanting to die so he is doing it properly

    • @TrevorDennis100
      @TrevorDennis100 3 года назад +2

      Shouldn't that be 'Holy scrap!'?

  • @danielhoulihan7769
    @danielhoulihan7769 3 года назад +29

    I'm not a pilot. I'm not a designer. I'm not an engineer. I was totally amazed by this video and had to watch to the end just to see if Mike's design worked. Well done Mike, of all levels!!

  • @JohnWiltberger
    @JohnWiltberger 3 года назад +40

    I grew up with Saturday Morning Cartoons, now I’m doing Saturday Morning Mike Patey :) love it!!

    • @williamwilliams8145
      @williamwilliams8145 3 года назад +1

      He could use those extra spars to make real life planes from Dastardly & Muttley and Their Flying Machines.

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 3 года назад +2

      At least now (and I criticize RUclips for overcontrolling content on the downside of things) I watch what I want when I want. Not the networks or cable TV force feeding me. I gave up all that years ago)

    • @kirdazemar6931
      @kirdazemar6931 3 года назад

      Facts ✅

  • @paulstein7369
    @paulstein7369 3 года назад +5

    When my day sucks, I watch your latest post & I'm good for a long time. Thanks for an WELCOME infection of energy, intelligence & creativity America needs. Keep being YOU !

  • @seaknightvirchow8131
    @seaknightvirchow8131 3 года назад +23

    My campfire conversations about pulling ribs was always about the best sauce.I never thought about G forces, torsion, metal fatigue etc. Mike’s enthusiasm is infectious. I have never seen anyone so excited about breaking something they conceived,worked on, and waited for so long except for my cousin’s marriage and divorce.

  • @dmt3339
    @dmt3339 3 года назад +5

    Curious if having a more rigid spar would make turbulence feel more rough. The energy from the air would be transmitted straight through the plane to you.

  • @Joe-fi4hv
    @Joe-fi4hv 3 года назад +82

    You should cut up an extra spar into 1 foot pieces, lazer etch an image of Scrappy and autograph them, and sell/auction them for charity.

  • @richardconnoly
    @richardconnoly 3 года назад +45

    The easiest way to get young people interested in engineering is to show them a new MP video in the classroom each week. :)

    • @yzaw4411
      @yzaw4411 3 года назад

      Well said!!! Hands on makes the book work true and interesting.

    • @jacobpoucher
      @jacobpoucher 2 года назад

      lol young people are far past the point of no return. this country is in trouble.

  • @Lee-qp6gf
    @Lee-qp6gf 3 года назад +25

    This entire build needs to be condensed, when competed, and shown to future aeronautical students. This build is going a long way for the ongoing education of present builders every time you put out a video. Just the glass work is an education within itself.
    Thanks for your time,
    Lee

    • @GaryMCurran
      @GaryMCurran 3 года назад +4

      NOOOOoo. Just the opposite, it should be EXPANDED, and go the full length of the year. Entitle the course 'This is how an airplane SHOULD be built!

    • @Lee-qp6gf
      @Lee-qp6gf 3 года назад +1

      @@GaryMCurran I said, "when completed".

    • @GaryMCurran
      @GaryMCurran 3 года назад +3

      @@Lee-qp6gf I understand what you said. What I said was that the series should be expanded. Mike would make a great teacher. For example, if someone were to get into aeronautical engineering, there is a LOT that Mike is doing, has done, that he's glossed over that we don't see the details of, and honestly, don't really want to get that granular over specific details. But, students WOULD want that detail. I'm pretty sure that Mike could easily spend 8-10 hours going over the design criteria of this spar and it's design just in Solidworks. Most people watching this channel would, by the end of it, be bored to death, but students would benefit greatly..
      The poster below, 'Supercharged Petrolhead' said it succinctly, if he had a professor like Mike, he wouldn't have slept through his classes.

  • @jdbergan
    @jdbergan 3 года назад +5

    The whole video I was saying to myself, "I really want a piece of that spar."
    I don't think I've ever bought something so fast.

    • @VicWY
      @VicWY 3 года назад

      yup

  • @lorinmiller1682
    @lorinmiller1682 3 года назад +23

    An an engineer, I love seeing this type of real world analysis displayed in a fashion that non-engineers can understand and relate to. Good job Mike!

    • @FarmerFpv
      @FarmerFpv 3 года назад +1

      You don't need to be an engineer to understand or relate to building planes. Hobbyists do it all the time. Sometimes it's harder for the hobbyist as most designs don't scale down very well. Yes, Mike is one of a kind but many people can relate to perfection.

    • @lorinmiller1682
      @lorinmiller1682 3 года назад

      @@FarmerFpv Agree. In the world I work in however, many engineers have difficulty relating and explaining concepts to non-engineers. They just get too bogged down in the technical minutia that really interests them. That's all I was pointing out. I loved building my plane and love flying it - so definitely understand your comments.

  • @aciagriculturalconstructio2264
    @aciagriculturalconstructio2264 3 года назад +3

    Scrappy just got real expensive. You used real 2 X 4s.

  • @mpuck972
    @mpuck972 3 года назад +48

    Mike, we know you really never doubted the SOLIDWORKS results, but it does make for a good bit of RUclips drama right! We love having you as a customer and for all you and Mark do for general aviation. We're working on something big to announce at AirVenture to help GA that we think you're going to be excited about! We'll be in touch soon to get your feedback!

    • @MikePatey
      @MikePatey  3 года назад +41

      Wahoo I can’t wait to hear about it. 🤠 Also I never had a doubt about the results as long as I put in the data and constraints correctly on my end. I have had so many comment and ask if it could be trusted. This was fun for me as well to show how accurate it is. Now that being said give me a couple more videos and I’m going to Flex 💪 SoldWorks in my changing wing components and flow analysis. Thanks for such an amazing product so I can design and test wing theory. Its now time for the execution of my wing. Tell your team for me, YOU ALL ROCK 🤠🤠🤠

    • @kschleic9053
      @kschleic9053 3 года назад +3

      @@MikePatey so true. FEA is incredibly powerful and can produce amazing results, but it is only as good as the user!

    • @johnkey1682
      @johnkey1682 3 года назад +13

      @@MikePatey SolidWorks (simulation in general) also assumes no material defects. And now you've test sampled the batch that your spar was made from.

    • @mrkevinjmiller
      @mrkevinjmiller 3 года назад +5

      Even the best algorithm, and that's what a computer program is, is only as good as the input data. Garbage in, garbage out. Mike, I enjoy how you verify and validate everything with real world empirical experimentation and measurements. Looking forward to the ultimate proof; a flying Scrappy.

    • @Timbo428CJ
      @Timbo428CJ 3 года назад +2

      @@MikePatey How can I get a set of the anodized spark pieces ?
      Very cool !!@

  • @GrizzAxxemann
    @GrizzAxxemann 3 года назад +5

    Where was a physics teacher like Mike in the late 1990s when I was stuggling to stay awake?

  • @diegomarquez7327
    @diegomarquez7327 3 года назад +24

    Wohoooo Seeing scrappy born from the moment you mentioned you wanted to build a cub to the moment you are already starting the wing process is incredible. I never comment on your videos but I can tell you that every Saturday I sit like a child waiting for his favorite TV show. This moment has finally arrived and that only says that there is little left to see it fly

    • @paulodeoliveira3368
      @paulodeoliveira3368 3 года назад +3

      Wow! So true. It does remind me when I was a kid waiting for Gummy Bears

    • @findinghome748
      @findinghome748 3 года назад +2

      Totally agree! Mike is the only person I have notifications turned on for LOL!

  • @runalongnowhoney
    @runalongnowhoney 3 года назад +4

    “Remember kids, the only difference between screwing around and science, is writing it down” - Alex Jason

  • @Bendejo-lm8wo
    @Bendejo-lm8wo 3 года назад +23

    I love coffee with scrappy on a Saturday morning! 🤙

    • @crossbound
      @crossbound 3 года назад +2

      That's exactly what I was doing.. sitting on the front porch, coffee in hand and Scrappy

    • @niner_six_echo
      @niner_six_echo 3 года назад +2

      @@crossbound Same.

    • @tridelltransportation3603
      @tridelltransportation3603 3 года назад

      That’s what I’m doing

    • @Mower117
      @Mower117 3 года назад

      I enjoyed london fog tea and Timbits (doughnut bits), and rumballs on the porch in the sun on my phone screen (!) because I didn't want to waste time getting my laptop before watching.

    • @acirinelli
      @acirinelli 3 года назад

      Same, perfect time to drop the videos. And with the Instagram teaser the night before, knew it was coming!

  • @cameronlapworth2284
    @cameronlapworth2284 3 года назад +19

    Im a science and STEM teacher, I have often shown kids Mike's stuff as inspiration, cool stuff but also an excellent example of scientific thinking. Mike you are right up there with people like Adam Savage in effective science communication. I'm envious of Savages workshop too but more envious of yours, but not as envious as I am of your skills. Always a pleasure.

  • @travissenft3242
    @travissenft3242 3 года назад +19

    Love how you test your parts, it really shows how much detail and hard work you put in engineering your parts.

  • @dmccollom1969
    @dmccollom1969 3 года назад +3

    Just how did you get that corneal abrasion? Ron threw safety glasses in my eye...

  • @joetroyner
    @joetroyner 3 года назад +35

    Next Mike Patey video: making a modern art sculpture with busted wing spars..

    • @NICHOLASRGLORIOSO
      @NICHOLASRGLORIOSO 3 года назад +1

      WOULDNT Surprise me at all!! That boy is a GENIUS!!!

    • @jwil6902
      @jwil6902 3 года назад +1

      What do you mean NEXT video. Did you stop watching before the 33 minute mark? Lol

  • @IllFlyIt
    @IllFlyIt 3 года назад +1

    So I weight 270lbs. Note to self, don’t sit on the wing tip of a cub 😧

  • @adamscholl9410
    @adamscholl9410 3 года назад +15

    And I just thought you were procrastinating on the wings. Turns out you were only waiting on parts

    • @MikePatey
      @MikePatey  3 года назад +17

      exactly 🤠 . We are full steam ahead on wings! Machining and cutting parts now!

  • @hughboyle
    @hughboyle 3 года назад +2

    Another amazing, educating, and entertaining video Mike! It was a real pleasure meeting at the Carbon Cub BBQ event Thursday evening at Sun-n-Fun. I mentioned to you that you are a inspiration and this video is another example. By the way, I ordered a set of the Scrappy spars too and will proudly display them in my office!

  • @crossbound
    @crossbound 3 года назад +16

    I just shared this video with my son, who will start college next year and wants to study aerospace engineering. And he also wants to get his pilots license within the next year. This video is such a great practical example how engineering is done.

  • @gcmsinc
    @gcmsinc 3 года назад +1

    I want one of the Scrappy Scraps to go with my New High Performance Best Tug Bravo-8 I have on order. I can hardly wait to see how the Tug works pulling the loads we have in store for it.

  • @blancolirio
    @blancolirio 3 года назад +135

    “Cube-Out” Payload capacity. Congrats!

    • @thomasaltruda
      @thomasaltruda 3 года назад +5

      So scrappy is going to weigh 2000 and be able to carry 2000? Interestingly, the Cessna Caravan also can carry its own weight in useful load! Approximately 4400 empty weight, with a gross weight of 8800ish (don’t remember the exact numbers)

    • @nickwulf
      @nickwulf 3 года назад +10

      I closed my eyes
      only for a moment
      and the moment = weight x arm
      dust in the wind
      all we are is dust in the relative wind

    • @TheJttv
      @TheJttv 3 года назад +7

      I am a packaging engineer so weigh-out/cube-out is commmon terminology for me. But was kinda confused why anyone else would know that term. Then i realised it was Juan a pilot and it made perfect sense.

    • @Journeyman1642
      @Journeyman1642 3 года назад +2

      @@thomasaltruda yeah if I could choose any plane to buy that would be my first choose

    • @rconger24
      @rconger24 3 года назад +4

      Blanco. Now there's a compliment!

  • @12thtime
    @12thtime 3 года назад +1

    As a fellow plane builder, I wish you would've offered those spars for sale whole to the homebuilt community before you cut them up. Although they are custom, there's probably quite a few people who could have adapted them into their own designs.

  • @scottshellenberger4721
    @scottshellenberger4721 3 года назад +42

    Your videos could be used at universities to teach engineering principles. Amazing stuff!

    • @pete_mitchell
      @pete_mitchell 3 года назад +1

      The thing IS overbuilt so not really, IT means its heavier than it needs to Be. Its a really cool project and i love his Work, but its not optimized.

    • @chadpm11
      @chadpm11 3 года назад +6

      Na they're to busy teaching kids how to whine and cry as well as call everything they disagree with racist or other bs terms.

    • @dennisnbrown
      @dennisnbrown 3 года назад +2

      @@pete_mitchell geez man. Thanks for your amazing input. Not really. I’m sure you are much better than him. 😂😂

    • @ManicSalamander
      @ManicSalamander 3 года назад +1

      @@pete_mitchell You can't optimize something unless its mission requirements are very narrowly defined. Once you allow that it may be used for a variety of purposes in a variety of conditions, the question of optimization dissolves into a philosophical exploration. Scrappy is not the sort of thing that could be optimized.

    • @ameyers67
      @ameyers67 3 года назад +3

      @@chadpm11 "I've never seen a protest at a trade school". Mike Rowe.

  • @jlstock_1
    @jlstock_1 3 года назад +9

    Wonder what the 45 who put a thumbs down have accomplished in their life?

  • @N1RKW
    @N1RKW 3 года назад +74

    If Draco was a weapon, Scrappy is going to be a monster truck. What a beast!

    • @aerospot2
      @aerospot2 3 года назад +5

      Draco 2 is definitely in the works! He already has an airframe for it. And all the things he learned in posterity in the first Draco build, will be incorporated in the 2nd. They may need to start building more Wilga aircraft after he is done!

    • @bonzogamer6966
      @bonzogamer6966 3 года назад +5

      If Draco was a weapon Scrappy will be a Weapon of Mass Destruction in Mike's hands.

    • @brandoncaldwell95
      @brandoncaldwell95 3 года назад +1

      @@aerospot2 he has 2. A white and green Wilga

  • @gildedbear5355
    @gildedbear5355 3 года назад +2

    How will Mike manage to fill Scrappy with that most weight? Gold heist. LOL

  • @flyingkub
    @flyingkub 3 года назад +10

    Mike my wife just looked at this video with me and said that you are a richer version of me, starting with someone elses design and then changing it, to make it beter, stronger, lighter and longer lasting. She also said, "It is a good job you don't have access to a workshop like Mike's or I would never see you awake". So from that I think t might be said I am your poor older Brother form another Mother.

  • @cavemansmancave9025
    @cavemansmancave9025 3 года назад +1

    Real engineering. Thanks for showing everyone how it’s REALLY done.
    It’s not all computers and math.
    Geometry, materials, loads, predictions.
    Testing, testing, testing.
    Thanks,
    John

  • @JTLaser1
    @JTLaser1 3 года назад +32

    I’m sure that a lot of people have the resources to buy the things to build their own aircraft, but, to me, the thing I admire about you is that you are willing to use your stuff to teach the community firsthand the things that they would normally only find in some book. Kudos Mike!!!

    • @ManicSalamander
      @ManicSalamander 3 года назад +4

      Definitely a valuable resource to the public. This is what it looks like to simply work the plain process of developing a complicated thing that works well. Even if you are an engineer in a company, politics, shareholder theater, excessive bean-counting, corner cutting, time pressure, and more, serve to both complicate and warp the basic process. It masks the elegance, beauty and joy of it.

  • @BOBANDERSON5150
    @BOBANDERSON5150 3 года назад +1

    After watching this. I ordered my set of Scrappy Wing Spars. Thanks for the AWESOME DEMO Mike!!!

  • @randywheeler8976
    @randywheeler8976 3 года назад +9

    I ordered my wing spars, Mike I got to meet you at Sun-n-Fun and you seem to be just as genuine in person and for that you will eternally have my respect. I appreciate all you do for aviation making it so accessible for everyone. Now get back to work. 🤜

  • @Ripper13F1V
    @Ripper13F1V 3 года назад +1

    So what your saying, is that at 6'6", and 280lbs, I might have a chance at actually flying in that with full fuel, and all my luggage. NICE!

  • @Rollout001
    @Rollout001 3 года назад +7

    If you asked me 36 minutes ago if I would watch a video about wing spars, I would have said 'nope'. But I watched every repetition of the tests and waited with bated breath to see the bench test results compared to the Solidworks projections. Excellent content again Mike!

  • @croweater87
    @croweater87 Год назад +1

    Two years behind. I'm still catching up on the Scrappy Build. Those anodised test pieces are awesome. I jumped on your website straight away, thinking they'd be gone! Hopefully, it's on its way soon!

  • @Russellsperry
    @Russellsperry 3 года назад +11

    It always makes my morning to see a new Scrappy video come out.

  • @youknowwhoiam1314
    @youknowwhoiam1314 2 года назад +1

    I have resorted to watching ur old videos mike for happiness. PLEASE keep putting them out!!!!!!

  • @bassmandave5865
    @bassmandave5865 3 года назад +30

    Scrappy’s build journey so far has been not only very educational but really entertaining. Can’t wait to see him finished and in the air. Thanks Mike for sharing this journey with all of us.

    • @rhukaduka
      @rhukaduka 3 года назад

      Well said. I am soooooo looking forward to first flight.

  • @Animeistered
    @Animeistered 3 года назад +1

    There is no school to learn what you have accumulated in aviation, engineering, fabrication, assembly, and design. Do you want a protégé? Because I'd work for peanuts to suck up knowledge of such immense value.

  • @ghostedyoutuber263
    @ghostedyoutuber263 3 года назад +14

    While you were working, I started a MOSH pit in my mom's basement listening to the background music.

  • @NovejSpeed3
    @NovejSpeed3 3 года назад +1

    The last class I took before getting my engineering degree last year was CAE (Computer Aided Engineering). We used Solidworks FEA on a strut/shock absorber and turbine design we created. It scared the crap out of me going into it. However, what I learned from it made me the man for our Senior Design (aka Machine Design) course as I was the only one in the entire class that knew how to perform an FEA. So we were the only group who included it in our project report!!!! Easy A! To all future engineers take this course!!!!
    EDIT: Question, Mike did you have to account for any elongation of the hole in the spar for the bolt used to apply the force? Or is that one of those negligible things Strength and Materials courses force you to calculate just to make you lose your mind??? 😆

  • @Doug_Morgan
    @Doug_Morgan 3 года назад +8

    Love this kind of stuff. You never really know for sure what the results will be until you actually test to failure.

  • @plan9203
    @plan9203 2 года назад +1

    Hey Mike, what made you want to not go with a carbon fiber spar that you would have built yourself. I'd assume it be much more stiff, strong, and cheaper if you DIYed it?

  • @glenhugoiii1389
    @glenhugoiii1389 3 года назад +31

    I've never been into planes or aviation , but I literally cannot stop watching these videos! Amazing job

  • @mds19238
    @mds19238 3 года назад +1

    Why couldn't you put a conductive trace on the spar to give an 'idiot light' warning...showing that the spar has been flexed beyond an acceptable level?
    And no, I didn't stay at Days Inn last night, thank you for asking.

  • @paulabbott3601
    @paulabbott3601 3 года назад +10

    In episode #48, Mike is fitting the equipment for his anti-G suit

  • @OMG_No_Way
    @OMG_No_Way 3 года назад +14

    When Scrappy is parked at Oshkosh next year and has a Carbon Cub hanging off each wingtip, it’ll definitely be a crowd gathering display.

    • @snoopy7647
      @snoopy7647 3 года назад

      OSH AirVenture 2021, with a Carbon Cub hanging off of each wing!
      Don't forget about the possibility of hammocks, either!
      Mike and Mark Patey, two extraordinarily intelligent and gifted individuals!
      Both are very giving towards the Aviation Community, with all that I've watched over the last few years!
      Keep up the great works, guys!

    • @secondchancesurvival
      @secondchancesurvival 3 года назад

      Up next, Mike is going to make 2 mini cubs to launch from his wing tips like drone versions of drop tanks!

  • @ibbylancaster8981
    @ibbylancaster8981 3 года назад +26

    Mike Patey, the Kelly Johnson of Private Aviation! You are the man

  • @antibrevity
    @antibrevity 3 года назад +4

    Mike P: "I had to design and engineer my own wing spar."
    Everyone: Well, duh.

    • @danielwahl
      @danielwahl 3 года назад

      haha, right?

    • @diverbob8
      @diverbob8 3 года назад

      Well of course...we all know Mike is planning to take this thing to the edge of space...he'll definitely need a little extra fuel !!

  • @lucifermorningstar4548
    @lucifermorningstar4548 3 года назад +8

    So excited to see anything wing related with scrappy!!! I hope she has winglets.

  • @CLCIII
    @CLCIII 3 года назад +3

    Now you can literally haul a planeload of gold back from Alaska! Sounds like a plan!

  • @Big_Nipper
    @Big_Nipper 3 года назад +14

    1st, for the first of the wing build videos I've been waiting months for....bahahaha. Can't wait to see what Master Mike is going to do.

  • @charlieguenther5490
    @charlieguenther5490 2 года назад +1

    I would like to have seen how well the yield points corroborated with the FEA. I also use topology studies to cut amazing amounts of weight out of my brackets, turnbuckles etc. I love how the results always look alien or like insects.

  • @johnsweeney4257
    @johnsweeney4257 3 года назад +5

    Now you can fly around the country showing off your stellar matter collection without fear of tweaking your wings!

  • @tomclark6271
    @tomclark6271 3 года назад +1

    It's called "ribboning", when the deformation is caused by shear loading like this. Even a round spar would tend to ribbon, except that the deformation would eventually even out along the length and result in a kink at the pinch point. Even so, I'd like to see your same test rig setup on a round spar to test it's plastic deformation... maybe a box spar? Or reverse engineer a thicker shear web until you get the strength desired. Then you can determine the weight penalty.

  • @aassiscarvalho
    @aassiscarvalho 3 года назад +5

    Solid Works engineers watching the video with their fingers crossed from the start... :D

    • @robertchopp5477
      @robertchopp5477 3 года назад

      scrappy spar was not tested to same conditions as the first two spars. it was setup with the extra ribs. so results are not true comparision .

    • @mckenziekeith7434
      @mckenziekeith7434 3 года назад +2

      @@robertchopp5477 No. The very first spar was tested with fewer ribs. But he redid that test with more ribs using the same spar (carbon cub spar). The very first test was discarded.

  • @Jim_Austin
    @Jim_Austin 3 года назад +2

    There is no need for me to know this much (I don’t design airplanes) but I’ve got to admit this is interesting. Thanks!

  • @InitialDsTak
    @InitialDsTak 3 года назад +7

    Mike Patey, the only guy that can deliver those two dozen lead bars to that empty field 300 miles from literally anything else. Not sure WHY, but if you ever have the need...

    • @Otisthelesser
      @Otisthelesser 3 года назад +1

      And he can drop’em out of the candy scoop without having to land. Lol.

    • @Newberntrains
      @Newberntrains 3 года назад

      i know who im calling up to go for my next range ammo run lol

  • @maximusaviationchannel
    @maximusaviationchannel 3 года назад +1

    Gotta be honest Mikey. You lost me at "Math" But if you trust your life to your calculations that's good enough for me. Cheers. Can't wait to see it fly.

  • @MrJetjocjoe
    @MrJetjocjoe 3 года назад +4

    Hey Mike, you probably already covered this and I just hadn’t seen it, but why didn’t we go carbon fiber on the main spars?

    • @stephenjourdain1842
      @stephenjourdain1842 3 года назад +1

      I would think Carbon Fibre tends to snap rather than deform in one piece

    • @Nic-te3vq
      @Nic-te3vq 3 года назад +2

      Most likely because carbon fiber is stiff so it’s failure point would be catastrophic versus aluminum which can deflect and return and any failure is not your wing snapping into half

    • @chrisruf7590
      @chrisruf7590 3 года назад

      Many sailpanes and acrobatic planes have very strong Carbon fiber spars. +/-10 g or better in some cases

  • @skier222
    @skier222 3 года назад +3

    Question for those more well-versed in structural engineering than I am: if ribs serve to prevent this buckling failure mode, but the skin of the aircraft could span a larger rib spacing than is currently used, would it not be more efficient to just have a spar with wider flanges to resist buckling, thus enabling wider spaced ribs?

    • @RussellTelker
      @RussellTelker 2 года назад

      I was wondering how much difference wider flanges would make as well...

  • @Johnbobon
    @Johnbobon 3 года назад +6

    FEA analysis, brought to you by the Redundancy Department of Redundancy.

    • @MikePatey
      @MikePatey  3 года назад +1

      😂😂😂 exactly

    • @mckenziekeith7434
      @mckenziekeith7434 3 года назад

      SAT test. HIV virus. Etc. Always good for a laugh.

  • @justacoupleofkids320
    @justacoupleofkids320 3 года назад +3

    Not a pilot but I watch your channel because I really appreciate your positive attitude and your solid work ethic.

    • @MrJaiimez
      @MrJaiimez 3 года назад

      I don't really think of Mike as an aviation channel, very little of his content actually involves flying, he's an engineering channel, just happens that he like to engineer aircrafts.

  • @mcminimethec
    @mcminimethec 3 года назад +4

    If Mike was my neighbor, I'd be over at his place as much as possible doing anything I could to help out.

  • @slothandturtle8036
    @slothandturtle8036 3 года назад +1

    I wish you guys on the other side of the pond would also use the only right system, wich is the metrical system... 😜
    Great video, can‘t wait to see the progress with the wing design 💪🏻👍🏻

  • @geoffmeadows619
    @geoffmeadows619 3 года назад +5

    Been up since 6 to watch this video! Thank you for all you do Mike!

  • @Jeffrey-Flys
    @Jeffrey-Flys 3 года назад +1

    I see it now. Mike goes back country with four friends... two run out of fuel. Mike hauls them home under his wings like middle pods. August 2022...

  • @budrohammbone2806
    @budrohammbone2806 3 года назад +5

    Oh Yeah, Don't forget the hammock anchor points on both sides of Scrappy !

  • @williamwintemberg
    @williamwintemberg 3 года назад +1

    Way Over The Top Engineering! Education Beyond Education!

  • @johnedwards5516
    @johnedwards5516 3 года назад +4

    Dam, new video just came out. Now I’m going to be late for work

  • @morghino1497
    @morghino1497 3 года назад +1

    You are a Master! You and Howar Hughes' money would allow every man on earth to fly daily for the price of a Tesla within 5 years!

  • @frijoli9579
    @frijoli9579 3 года назад +4

    Who is giving this thumbs down? lol ... I love this stuff.

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 3 года назад

    Patey 'Factor of Safety' - way to go Mike. I can't even guess how much that bundle of spars cost - bearing in mind I assume a die had to be made specially. Impressive and your test program was fascinating. I'm jumping up and down now I am hearing the word 'wing' LOL. :)

  • @Adam-qn8of
    @Adam-qn8of 3 года назад +1

    I live and work in Australia as an engineer.
    It is so painful to watch engineering calculations being done in imperial.
    Metric units makes life easier and a lot more sense than imperial units.
    God bless America.

  • @alexgrifka8969
    @alexgrifka8969 3 года назад +5

    The reason I went to college for mechanical engineering is because I want to do things like this. Anyone else?

    • @dirkhamilton2709
      @dirkhamilton2709 3 года назад

      You’re not alone!

    • @watashiandroid8314
      @watashiandroid8314 3 года назад

      If you find an engineering job where you get to do stuff like this, please share how you found it, title, description, etcetera!

  • @LanceCampeau
    @LanceCampeau 3 года назад +1

    Boom.... I don't fly... but I'M IN

  • @cunhafixit
    @cunhafixit 3 года назад +6

    I should be preparing for camping with beavers, but Mike posted a video.

    • @MikePatey
      @MikePatey  3 года назад +3

      😂🤠

    • @edwardhasiak7961
      @edwardhasiak7961 3 года назад +1

      I was ready to go for a bike ride. LOL

    • @acirinelli
      @acirinelli 3 года назад +1

      I was supposed to be working in the yard. Wife: “that’s a long one today” ... yea 40 mins! See ya in a bit lol

    • @wb6anp
      @wb6anp 3 года назад +3

      I was supposed to be building my wing but his video popped up.