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I miss watching these trains. I’m a native to the area, and the highlight of my day was watching this train almost weekly. Thankfully you made this video, it brings back good memories when I was a kid.
Thanks for watching!
I've always been fascinated by uniqueness of those Morrison-Knudsen MK5000C locomotives (aka: MK50-3) with their 5000HP Caterpillar prime movers.
You should come out to Kyle Railroad here in Kansas. We have all of them and still use the remaining four (5003-5006) sadly 5001 and 5002 are in our yard for parts.
The MK5000C's were unique but heavily doomed with nothing but issues from the very start. Union Pacific wasn't impressed with the demonstrators and Southern Pacific decided 300 AC4400CW's instead were the better option when they found out that the dynamic braking from the MK5000C's wasn't as strong as any other GE & EMD units. This was also why they decided to stick with the GP40M-2 & SD40M-2 rebuild program only. Even though there was 6 MK5000C's completed there was more that were still in building but then MKR went out of business and the half done units were scrapped instantly. BC Rail also drew interest into them but then also ended up ordering more GE units. Needless to say,if these units didn't have all of the major issues that were present since the beginning,inevitably EPA regulations would've caused retirement or rebuilding to be the next thing. The same situation is really what happened with the SD80MAC's and why Caterpillar and EMD can't build engines. It would've been the same results with the AC6000CW's and SD90MAC's if the 7HDL's and 265H's didn't have problems.
The SD50s in this video were built by EMD licensee Clyde Engineering in Rosewater South Australia in 1982. They were built for Hammersley Iron for use in the Pilbara Region in Western Australia and were fitted with double skin cab roofs and A/C. They were withdrawn in 1995 after being replaced by GE 9-44CWs and sold to NREC and exported to the US 1999, sold to Utah Railway in 2001.
The thing to note is they have one larger radiator intake to cope with the high Ambient Temps in the Outback.
Yeah good one! Great info.
Is the cab setup as if it were in Australia where the engineer sits on the left instead of the right?
@@RedDed228 They are set up for right hand drive as the Pilbara Region follows the Amercain rail Practices
@@NSWRailwaysVideos is that in Australia the pilbara region?
@@RedDed228 Sure is
Drayton thank you for uploading this video again. I remember seeing this video a year or so ago. You must have been told by some that there was an error in your original narration. Thank you for making the effort to correction the original narration. It was great to watch this video again and to see the beautiful scenery that the Utah Railway travels through again!
Two things: 1) I never knew there was a Utah Railway, and thought this might be a video about Eric Broomans Utah Belt model railroad! 2) My gosh what beautiful scenery! A very well done film!
WOW. Never this much power being used on one train.Thank you for sharing
I’m glad the Utah Railway is keeping with the times and moving on from coal. Love me some MKs
Those are some cool looking engines
Those MK 5000's have always been so interesting.
Not only did you follow a train with 11 engines, but the scenery is absolutely stunning. Good job!
Utah railway railfanning coal trains are my favorite
Phenomenal camera work
Really great video! Enjoyed it very much! We are somewhat familiar with this area as we have travelled US 6 a few times. Never have been fortunate enough to see a coal train climbing up or down Soldier Summit!
Look forward to more of your videos!
Since the recording of this, only 3 of the locomotives in this video are still on UTAH Rwy’s roster, those being SD50S’ 6060, 61, and 62. All others, including the entire MK50 fleet, have been moved to other railroads.
Awesome Video! A 5+6 Old school Monster coal train!
I loved this video and very informative narrative. I don’t remember when if at all I saw a long train with 11 dpus. Magic. Thanks for sharing.
I can't be the only one who thought that was a dash 9 at first
Power Stalls - the big smack!
Chinese put online 50 coal power plants a week in your name of Clean Air in America we closed all ours down put all the miners out of work put all the trains out of work petierre doesn't get any cleaner
The two different models of locomotive on the train are SD-50's with the end standard cabs, in the 6000 number scheme, and the other models with the wide cab are the MK 50-3s numbered in the 5000 scheme.
And I can’t be the only one who thinks that cab looks terrifying
Those are those MK5000 That was built by MK rail. Biggest flop
Thanks for this high quality upload 👍
Alright, lets have some Utah Belt coaling action!😉😁
What a beautiful shot of the Train ❤
Great stuff! Those engines look very unique, but got to say I like the way it looks.
Whoa, I’ve never seen these locomotives for the first time! They look rare to me
Great footage! Thanks for sharing.
Amazing video love the railroad and its paint scheme
The crew be like: Wo Wo Wo Wo, *BANG*, No one saw how hard we coupled into these locomotives.
Better get to the MRL next before its gone!
Great work as always!!
0:45 I was on that second unit today
Very impression video;a lot of Diesel
Power in a beautiful landscape!
I have read an article about that
Line in a german railway magazine.
Volker
Another great video thanks
I loved living in utah when I lived there 06-08. Beautiful and Ogden was historic with railroading but I was young then and had no clue how historic. One day I will return and likely not leave haha
Great video !!!!!!
Good video Drayton thanks for sharing keep up the good work.....Robert
Wow what a great video love I only seen trains between Helper and Provo but never south of Helper Union Pacific and Amtrak all I seen
Good old coal trains there’s nothing better
Awesome video!
This video looks like a Model train set!👍🏻👍🏻
great footage!!!
4:43 that engineer definitely has back problems.
The classic and my favorite single engine 5000HP unit built: Morrison Knudsen’s MK5000C. I’m glad all six of these babies are still in active service on the Kyle Railroad. It shows that 5000HP is still used today, and that the SD80MAC was never the true champ among the 5000HP units, the MK5000C outlives the SD80MAC, not a single one of the 6 MK5000C’s has been scrapped!
None of the MK5000C's retain the Caterpillar 3612's,all six units were rebuilt and derated in 2003 for Utah Railway as MK50-3's with EMD 645F3's having 645E3 power assemblies. Within the first year during 2001 all six units were immediately removed from usage because of numerous mechanical issues involving the prime movers and alternator bearings. The Caterpillar prime movers kept destroying crankshafts and there also was main generator misalignments. Only 4 MK50-3's are active on KYLE because two units have been turned into parts donors. Union Pacific turned away all six demonstrators and Southern Pacific ended up ordering 300 AC4400CW's from GE because those units slacked immensely on dynamic braking and had wheel slippage. BC Rail briefly tried but also turned down the deal and instead purchased more GE units. After MKR went out of business there was half done MK5000C's that were still in building which were scrapped because nobody wanted them and they were plagued with issues. Using the SD80MAC's as a comparison is not even close...The SD80MAC's to this very day still uphold the title of being the most reliable units with the highest horsepower ever built. The AC6000CW's and SD90MAC's were extremely unreliable. There was only 6 MK5000C's made while 30 SD80MAC's were around and saw extensive usage after Conrail for CSX and Norfolk Southern totaling almost twenty five years. The thing that killed the SD80MAC's was old age,EPA regulations,and costs. As a matter of the fact,the SD80MAC's were the last of the better built modern EMD units because new EMD units suck.
DIB ... THE GILLULY LOOPS DESERVE MORE ATTENTION THAN YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE THEM ... THEY ARE THE REASON WHY THE TRAINS CAN REACH SOLDIER SUMMIT ... THEY ARE AS MUCH AN ENGINEERING FEET AS TEHACHAPI ... THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORTS ...
Don't know why you are yelling but anyway, I think you mean "feat" not feet.
Great vídeo
Cool video
The Orange Plague should be considered a disjointed Class I.
Not really, each of our railroads are entirely separate companies. Kinda like Southern Pacific and Cotton Belt, or if Berkshire Hathaway owned another railroad
The cab on 5004 on the first train looks empty! Ghost crew! LOL
This shows that coal trains are still a thing. Nice work!
UTAH stopped hauling coal in 2017
@@WyanoPenna Whoops, my mistake; I was fooled by the upload date of this video.
Union Pacific runs these now with there own locomotives
@@jamesedwards9857 Interesting.
As much as the environmental geeks wish otherwise. (Even the PRC still wants to purchase coal - and from the western US at that. There is a video on RUclips on that - not from DIB.)
A good video.
Holy DPUs!!
I know I've seen this already. Is this a re-upload?
Hey Drayton, super nice video! Really enjoyed it! Now, I’ve got a quick question…I was just wondering if you were going to upload your footage from Mobile, AL.
It’s going to be awhile.
I swear DIB already made a video about this railroad
Are they same unit?
They definitely had to have made this video before because I thought the same thing
@onethirty Here is the answer to the above comments about this video on the Utah Railway being a re-upload of a previous version of the video. This is a link to a video that Drayton uploaded on 17 February 2019 in which he explains why he uploads a new version of a previously video: ruclips.net/video/C-d09lxFTrA/видео.html Basically what Drayton is saying in this video is that he is a perfectionist and he wants all the information in his narration to be accurate even down to the correct pronunciation of the name of a town or location. This is not the first revision of a Delay in Block video. The video on the Michigan Memories that was available earlier this week was a re-upload of a video that was uploaded a year or so ago. Last year Drayton uploaded a video on the BNSF's line that was the former Santa Fe Railroad line through New Mexico and Arizona. Within three or four weeks of the original date the video premiered, Drayton re-uploaded the video at least two more times because he had made some errors in the original narration. I remember watching the original upload of the video and as I was listening to the narration I realized that Drayton had made an error in either the direction that the train was traveling or the direction that the camera was facing in that portion of the video.
Hate it when RxR get shut down or mothballed. On the upside, BNSF is looking to reopen a mothballed line once they seal the deal with MRL. Just read it on Trains Magazine.
What I like about the bnsf railroad is that they will take care of even dying railroads and keep a line running
I got one of the UR lanterns.
Am I crazy for thinking that those engines were just some weird rebuilt SD60’s?
They were MK5000Cs, built before AC6000CWs and SD80MACs, so arguably the progenitor of the mid-90s horsepower race. Wabtec later rebuilt them into SD50 equivalents, to match Utahs also rare Clyde built SD50S'.
The MK5000C's are just mocked SD70M's with the same canadian styled trucks that MLW units were equipped with,Caterpillar prime motors,and the notoriously awkward wide cabs. The cabs on these units somewhat resemble GE cabs if you focus on the windows or mainly the nose and how the slants are outlined. Union Pacific and Southern Pacific originally were the only two railroads to test and lease these units. As Robb mentioned,the MK5000C's were rebuilt a long time ago. All six units came from Wabtec shortly after MKR was gone. Utah Railway within the first year put them into storage due to numerous problems with the prime movers and alternators. The MK5000C's became MK50-3's with different electronics and EMD 645F3's but with 645E3 power assemblies. Aside from being unreliable,parts sources for Caterpillar 3612's were becoming outdated. After Utah Railway lost their coal service to Union Pacific the MK50-3's were replaced and sent to KYLE. Only 4 MK50-3's are left in active usage because the other two units have become parts donors.
cool
As of today, what’s the state of the railway?
No more coal trains anymore. Union Pacific outbid them. They still have other customers. Google the railroad im know expert.
Is it just me or is there no one running the first locomotive?
i have a question, do trains always try to reach the maximum allowed speed level on a main line? (is it a ''must'' to travel at that speed?)
and does it happen that trains cant even reach the max speed?
We always try and reach the speed limit. Sometimes we can’t, and so we go as fast as we can go
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Nice Video
lets talk about that joint at 4:45...
So what is the railroads current state?
It still exists?!
What’ll happen to the MK 5000’s since UP bought out the line?
All 6 MK50-3's were sent to KYLE after Utah Railway discontinued coal service in 2017. Only 4 MK50-3's currently are in usage with them because the other two units have become parts donors.
Is like 50,000 horsepower enough? Asking for a friend
Is anyone actually sitting in the engineer's seat at 0.33?
Wow,0:15
people a root is Under A Tree !
I wonder whats to become of those MK 5000's
Four went to Kyle, another G&W property
After Utah Railway discontinued coal service because of Union Pacific,they decided to replace all 6 MK50-3's. All six units went to KYLE but 4 MK50-3's are active because the other two units have been put into storage and became parts donors.
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Aren't those MK5000's with Cat Diesels?
They started life that way but were rebuilt to SD50s keeping their MK5000 cabs.
Originally all 6 MK5000C's had Caterpillar 3612 prime motors. The units retained those motors while being leased to Union Pacific and Southern Pacific. All of the units suffered immensely with crankshaft and main generator failures while issues with dynamic braking and wheel slippage were also present. Utah Railway acquired all six units from Wabtec shortly after MKR went out of business. Within the first year of usage they were immediately removed and put into storage because of major mechanical malfunctions and problems with alternator bearings. All 6 MK5000C's were rebuilt into MK50-3's with EMD 645F3's while having 645E3 power assemblies. Utah Railway replaced them several years ago and only 4 MK50-3's remain active on KYLE.
Does this coal railroad have *TUNNEL MOTORS*
No, but those MK50s at the start of the video are now on the Kyle Railroad out here in Kansas, and we have two SD40T-2s left (we used to have a ton)
20:04 What the… 🤔
Well, the Utah Railway no longer hauls coal.
I kinda got the answer to that
Does AOC and Kerry know this mine is still mining coal?
Sucks that Biden got in because now coal is in trouble again. My brother just got laid off with NS it crazy I don't get it I thought they where hiring not long ago
Thank the late Hunter Harrison and Wall Street for that. PSR is all about making the railroad look good on paper.
@@robbfisher2876 In 2020, NS was named one of the top 17 worst companies to work for IN THE WORLD! Absolutely set the board of directors asses on fire! Spoiler alert: Nothings changed as of 2022!
Sucks that biden "got in" cause now the whole country is in trouble again. I'm sure that's what you meant to say!
"Utah"
The name sounds mystical, perhaps populated with pagans.?
The scenery similar to lord of the rings
"No-one goes to Utah after sunset, you knows"
I want to visit,
I can't be the only one who hates the new G&W colors, right?
What was wrong with the old scheme?
I know they're _owned_ by G&W but why does the scheme have to go away if they're still running it as an independent railway?
One of the most striking things you see when watching "real" trains, is that the guys who do "weathering" of model trains usually fashion them as incredible rusty, like they're about to fall apart. And unbelievably filthy. Clearly, this is unrealistic.
Clearly you've never seen an SP train in 'full glory'. There's a reason they were painted that dark gray color, and it wasn't because the paint shop got a good price on that shade of paint. If you haven't been a railfan long enough to remember/see SP, you missed a treat! Check out some of the good videos of Tehachapi Loop and witness dirt and grime in amazing amounts! I've also heard SP really means "Shockingly Philthy"...
@@thomream1888 Correct. I am Australiam, and my interest in trains happened well after my last trip to the USA. But I stand by what I said. I accept your impliciation statement that RUclips videos of trains may not be truly representative of "real life".
was loving the video until I heard the evil name of xarak xbama, if I type the actual name I can't control my nausea...........
Really hope they don't paint over the rest of the locomotives with that ugly Genesee & Wyoming livery.
Supply and demand has put the cool companies out of business. Seems your a little racist there. I'm glad cool is mostly gone. I get to breath clean air.
Union Pacific hauls the coal now.
Racist? What are you talking about? Oh, and it’s spelled *coal. Might want to brush up on that.
Thought we talking trains 🚆 lol
@@richharris9489 Yea, I must have missed something! Ha!
The air that this coal was mined is cleaner than Provos air, by lots!