Thank you guys for 600+ Subs! Ill be moving on from deku just for a short while so I can cover some other Heroes and Topics. Leave comments below on potential matchups you'd like to see whether its Inverse or Crossverse!
I mean hey I loved the Deku's videos too, giving him a more interpretations when people down play him quite a bit as fighter and a character xD great video
@@YaBoiSmurf Yea the scaling is real all over the place in the OP powerscaling community. One minute you have someone saying Luffy is Continental the next minute you have someone saying he's Universal. Atleast the speed scaling isnt as fluid since it's consistently in the FTL ranges.
I hate this tye pf comments that says "They would just be friends irl" no shit.We aint giving a fuck about their relationship.We want to know who wins.We dont care what would happen if they meet.We want to know who would win If they fought
Definitely a match up I enjoyed watching. Whenever I see Deku vs anyone, most of the time it's him against Asta. Although I love Black Clover, having Deku doing the washing for once is satisfying.
One thing I will say, and not as a mha fan. They do state the fight they had on death battle was won by popularity vote. If you did watch, they forgot the key quirk that would've been a Victory to deku. That being gear shift. Which is one of the most broken abilities he had in his arsenal
@@YaBoiSmurfyou are stupid Deku wins against the Akatsuki in boruto including itadori what kind of trash if I'm looking at stop saying City level nothing you say makes sense get to the damn point
@@YaBoiSmurfthere is no fucking scale and get to the point stop wasting your time scaling and talk about techniques I hate when you power scale in channels be doing this shit get to the points it's annoying
@@CosmicFather this was 3 months ago so I'll keep it short. The objects in a domain are essentially projections that can be interacted with. Nothing is actually created. Therefore you can't scale domain expansions as creation feats.
@@CosmicFather no they are not lol. That is entirely false. Just look at the sukuna vs gojo fight. And by your argument that would make mahito and anyone above him scale above universal as they can create infinite space or beat someone who can create infinite space.
I couldn't comment on the last video with the Akatsuki vs Deku for some reason but fire video, I love the editing done in this video and commentary was really entertaining, even the mic's better :O
yall remember Sakuna vs Jogo? Jogo was slightly under his speed and look how bad that turned out. Now imagine Deku doing the same but the asswhopping 100 times worse on Yuji
This was never even a close debate in the first place. Yuji is massively hypersonic with mountain level ap while Deku is ftl with multi continental ap. W video Smurf.
This never should've even been a debate, it only was because Deku gets scaled improperly. Deku slams the Jjk verse, most likely Gojo too, since Gearshift ignores inertia.
I think Sukuna takes it, ngl. Even with constant rewind, AFO is not winning as soon as he pulls out the domain. It'd be more interesting if we take Shigaraki, as he could prolly outlive the domain with his insane durability
@@TomasBregman Which is what annoys me so much about JJK verse Vs charcater, because of this one fucking ability. Gojo just makes them win or stalemate because you need a way to bypass infinity.
@@milesXD24i agree with sukuna, and only agree with the kashimo shit cuz like, his whole schtick is being fast. other than that deku slams (no im not an mha meatrider, i just dont think that a lot of the jjk verse is on par with mha)
Honestly just wanted to be as fair as possible for those who believe he gets that high. Not my personal opinion but if others think he's that high then hey 🤷♂️ lol let em live
Great vid, but there are two things I’d like to point out for the Deku scaling: 1. With the pic you showed of All Might’s VSBW page, that only shows *Prime* All Might scaling to country level. They usually scale weaker versions of All Might to only large island. So Deku would rather be about 1.2x above country level. 2. I found the Star’s ICBM Punch calc that you used to get Deku to multi-continental. However, I’m afraid people have already debunked that calc, so Idk if I’d continue using that. Otherwise, congrats on the 600+ subs! Keep up the great content man! 💯🔥🙌
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 1. My original comment was months before Deku’s weather changing feat. 2. The weather changing feat was specifically affecting the weather only on Japan and the U.S. 3. The highest feat the weather feat’s been calculated to is the lower ends of multi continental. Even if we say Deku at his peak was 60x stronger than he was during the feat, that would still make his peak self multi continental. So nah, saying he’s anything higher is wank.
@@Oreo_166 it's not wank, the entire US was affected, including parts of it that are on the other side of the planet, which make shim at least Moon level. You're just lowballing him. But even if he is Multi continental, he still destroys the entire JJK verse
Yuji: island level via kenjakus blackout feat in shibuya (no im not talking about the blackhole feat) and mhs+ via scaling above hakaris lightning dodging feat. Deku: continental via his storm clearing feat and relativistic+ via upscaling above stars and stripes blocking light speed attacks. Deku blitzes and one taps
yo cuz it seems u still reply to some comments, can u reply to this one? its basically, how would do deku, the one before losing all his quirks, against a full fleshed out potential? technically yuji does have shrine, which can do already dismantle and cleave, and maybe, with shrine, he could use fuga and even the world slash, just a maybe, but possible id say. he also has his, great resistance (bro fought almost since the begining against sukuna and then killed him, bro is outta this world in resistance) + his crazy ammounts of curse energy (as i said bro was fighting king of curses for so long it was actually surreal, also spamming rct, using cleave and soul dismantle like crazy, creating a unexperience domain expansion after a long fight, which was big as hell as sought in the leaks and then still using cleave and dismantle, which was said various times too hard to use a ct after a domain, and then bro just using divergent fist which is just cursed energy overflowing), maybe a speed reaching sukunas or gojos speed, since he was already physically goated and is a familiar of sukuna, so reaching his uncs speed could technically be possible. also the soul damage u mentioned, blood manipulation and the domain expansion in itself, which seems to damage soul directly, or, at least, be able to interact with it more deeply. i still think deku would have it, but it would seem a bit more fair, since deku was almost at his peak imo, and yuji is just begining to be a monster.
I guess I'll have to do a follow up vid lol but tbh nothing changes. If you believe he got stronger it's not by much considering how black flash works and how weak sukuna is. Stat wise deku clears him even at 5% of OFA.
@@YaBoiSmurf true lol, jjk scaling hasnt ever gone that up, which is better imo, but that means it stays on the lower tier of shonen animes. still, thanks for replying
deku has the power and speed, but the problem is the domain. If deku doesnt have ce then he could enter and walk out like maki does, but, if sukuna chaces him in the domain its gojover for deku. he aint surviving world slash or fuga. It be a not so fair fight cause sukuna has crazy ass abilities and shit gege pulls up every chapter
This is only a conversation because Yuji fans didnt watch MHA past season 3 where Deku got insane powerups. Yuji is not surviving even a season 6 Deku fa jin manchester smash, we dont even gotta get into gear shift and his 100% combination quirk feats.
Great video, although this wasn't really a debate in the first place. The only person in JJK that could beat Deku is Gojo, and even he gets speedblitzed by Deku. Infinity would be the only thing keeping him in the game and, if Deku fatigues before Gojo does, which is very likely, Gojo would win.
Sukuna could definitely beat deku too, however he'd have a harder time due to the speed gap, but sukuna could get it done if he plays his cards correctly.
Bro what are you talking about first of all deku's not fast enough to even get through Infinity and he doesn't even get speed blitz by him and sakuna would cut him up before he can even do anything and what the hell is Deku going to do against mahito who he can't even hurt him.
@@Keith_Norman I never said he speedblitzes infinity what are you on about dawg And yes he speedblitzes Gojo, definitely, no one argues about that. The fact that you think I said that shows me you haven't even read my comment correctly so replying to you is useless.
@@Keith_Norman Deku is faster than anyone in jjk sukuna is getting one shot mahito wont be able to do anything to deku as he is wayyyyyyyyyy slower gojo only lives cuz of infinity and even that is debatable as if gojo's infinity works on his preception(his six eyes being a filter to his infinity to what it allows to pass through and what not to let through in conclusion if it is preception based like its explained after his awakening gojo gets preception blitzed with infinity not activating as he legit cant see deku due to how fast he moves.
@Ritt3086 Dude, without cursed energy you can't even see curses, making literally every crossover JJK matchup impossible. This is why we have verse equalization, so Deku can both see and fight the curses and sorcerers.
No he didn't actually. He's correct, if people want a vid like that you'd have to equalize the verse to make it make sense. People do it all the time. Making them visible for a fight changes nothing about the scaling. Not to mention, deku already sees spirits, it's not ridiculous to say he can see the curses.
@@YaBoiSmurfnow I think that's cap,we don't even have feats for that deku and that deku isn't even said to really be equal to all might's but it has more upgrades
@@naetench5607 theres many feats for deku without him using his quirk. deku's suit is an upgraded version of all mights. all of this just requires reading :)
I think a more consistent feat you could’ve used for Weakened All Might was when he one shot the sludge monster and changed the weather. That was a mountain level feat and I just don’t see how a mountain level punch goes all the way up to multi continental when multiplied by 60. The average mountain in width is about 5-10 km while an average island usually is around a few or several hundred km’s. So if we multiply Weakened All Might’s mountain level feat from that punch and say that it was able to destroy a 10km wide mountain by 60, we would get 600 kms which is about island level. Although if we take into consideration of the height of a mountain as well, usually being a few hundred metres tall, that would take Prime All Might to country level which I think is pretty accurate for the heavy hitters in MHA. Still, really good video 🗿
That punch is Large Island level tho, it's not mountain level. Plus All Might is definitely not 60 times weaker than he was in his prime, it's likely that he is 100 times if not even more
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 there’s a calc for that weather changing punch and it’s been accepted by most that it’s just mountain+ level, large island is way too far. And after he ora ora’d with that Nomu in S1, he said that it took him 300 punches to take the Nomu down, but in his hayday he could’ve finished it in 5
@@konoheisenbergda he changed the weather across the entire city, the calcs I saw out him at Large Island level. Plus Deku changed the weather of the entire planet and he is equal to Shigaraki who is as strong as prime All Might, that alone is a better scale than the 60 times thing. Plus All Might's United States of Smash is far stronger than his normal punches, of which it would take him 5 to kill the Nomu
I know this was last month but good lord this is one of the most outrageous powerscaling takes I've ever seen. I love Deku, he easily solos jjk, but large planetary?? MFTL? LOWBALL??He just barely crosses FTL and Multi continental. Give me your feats for your take
@@Junoo9311 Im making an entire MHA rescale from scratch, I will complete the entire MHA scaling that no one has ever done. Also Deku never mastered over 45% and used his side quirks for fake 100%/120% and OFA 100% alone is stronger than even Overdrive so i will try to make a OFA 100% + side quirks for were he could potentially scale which it could reach even Star lvl
@@uglyslayerandrew1808 Mg, he gets crippled with every punch while EOS Deku's body has been adapted to higher percentages of OFA. Yuji would just let Deku immobilize himself.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yuji is not beating EOS Deku before he loses OFA. And even when he does we don't know what his suit does so Yuji's best bet to win is fighting Deku when he first got OFA or before he started unlocking other quirks. But my point is Yuji has an advantage at the beginning vs Deku who does not have a superhuman body without his suit or OFA lmao. This is like Spiderman vs Eddie Brock without venom
@@uglyslayerandrew1808 Deku's body is superhuman as fuck without one for all as I've just explained his body needs to be to handle its power! This is explained to us in like episode 2 of the show!
Oh my god really planetary know there's no way you actually believe it and he's not much faster than light at all since the speed boost he has doesn't last and isn't sufficient enough to get him faster than light. He's sub relativistic to relativistic and no one in mha is even close to multi-continental
haven't i already beat you in an anne vs deku debate where you never provided any evidence and just showed bias? lmao get out of here, that point is terrible.@@Keith_Norman
@@akita.1s oh I remember you now you're the guy that pretended to provide information but didn't provide anything whatsoever and Deku isn't even planetary in fact that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard I had no idea that you were this insane you didn't beat anyone . Anne beats Deku and Gojo, Sukana and Yuta stomp izuku
what abt current yuji? he’s got blood manipulation and shrine so i think in ur follow up video he’ll have a much better chance :) also i disagree with what u said abt yuji rarely hitting a black flash cuz yuji is known for just spamming it and making u think he’s using it at will when he rlly isn’t he’s jus apparently rlly lucky and locked in 😭😭😭
@@YaBoiSmurf yeah that’s true but maybe when his domain expansion gets revealed tonight from leaks it might give him the edge that’ll be enough for him to win
I love yuji but the way I see it Deku is more likely to win because of his flight and precog from danger sense giving him height advantage and a higher chance of landing a hit. but yuji has enhanced durability and rct allowing him to continue fighting and not get easily one shot. he even has his own shrine and blood manipulation to pull tricks on deku up close who does have heightened durability but not the pain tolerance or regen that yuji has because we have seen yuji sustain life threatening injuries to the vitals of his body considering the amount of times he's been stabbed, but deku has only been shot by a laser through the chest while all of his worst injuries are self-sustained and he struggled to even move. now that mha has come to an end, deku's strongest punch was able to affect a large area to stop getting hit by decay and even cleared the skies. yuji's black flash was able to make pretty large craters but sukuna getting hit by black flash doesnt really show the amount of devestation it causes. my point is that hypothetically, when both characters land a solid hit to the body, yuji would survive a 120% OFA but deku wont't survive a black flash with cleave and dismantle to the chest
1-MHA is still not finished 2-Yuji's power is still at the city level 3-We still haven't seen Deku's strongest punch because even when he didn't want to kill Shigaraki, he released 55 teratons of energy (more than the JJK universe could ever imagine). 4-We also know that Deku can one-shot Shigaraki 5-Also, Deku didn't just suffer laser damage. He easily dodged dozens of his own punches. 6-120% Deku vs Yuji is not a battle. Because Deku infinite will instantly destroy Yuji even in 100% mode. Also even 45% Deku will instantly destroy Yuji
neither do anything to someone that out stats him. weve only seen 1 instance of his blood manip and it wasnt even strong enough to severely wound an extremely nerfed sukuna.
What's crazy is that I've actually seen videos of people trying to get Yuji up to continental and saying so. Therefore, he one shot Deku which just really tells me a lot of people don't know how strong Deku is because season 4 Deku was easily contentential and here's the other thing that gets me. You can easily get deku up to planetary with the statement of shigiraki destroying the planet. Him destroying shigirakis stitch round the other statements backing up shigiraki being planetary ect So the fact that people actually debated this at one point is really sad
this is only about AP and speed, you need to remember how they fight and how their powers works. deku only evades shots that are from far away, other then that he prefers to fight 1v1 and get hit but also hit even stronger, and cause of the way his quirks work, he prefers to get more and more serious the longer the fight is. on the other hand, yuji fights like a normal martial artist, and tries to finish the fights as fast as possible. also, one for all doesn't have any defense skills, so deku normally uses all for one to tense his muscles and tank hits, and that would work well against physical hits. but yuji's powers aren't (entirely) physical, they are also imbued with cursed energy, which deku can't defend against (just reminding, only jujutsu sorcerers can see cursed energy), so his attack could kill deku in 1 hit, since deku can't defend from cursed energy. so, yuji might be weaker than deku, but he has the skills and methods to fight and kill deku. this also happens a lot in MMA
@@YaBoiSmurf that took like 2 minutes and i wasn't lying. Just cause you added a little bit of an interpretation at the end doesn't mean you aren't comparing them only based on AP and speed
@@pretro6136deku also has his other abilites Black whip, this move can be used to defends himself to keep yuji away from him Smokescreen, can be used to block yuji vision Also Deku has Air Force gauntlets, these items are used so deku can make air blasts as well for range attacks
@@nehemiah7012 look at how he fights, he prefers to fight his opponent the same way they fight him (just look at every fight deku ever had), so in yuji's case, that would mean they would fight hand to hand, and in that case, none of those quirks can help him defend from a cursed technique, so yuji could kill deku
Yujis black flash wont just hurt deku it would also nerf him. Also deku healing ability is greater than sukuna and gojo since hes able to reattach a limb. In the end Deku still wins but the fight is much closer with the information that we have now until we see yujis domain expansion
Lmao no it's not, blackflash isn't doing shit to Deku, Yuji needs to get in a certain mindset to land a BF, Deku would just kill him long before he can do that
first of all good video Deku wins obviously. Yuji does not scale to Hakari or yuta . yuiji punched Sukuna and his cursed energy went down. if he fought any of the special grades i think he would die that includes geto.
@@Jsipki265yeah he's really going to do well against mahito who he can't even physically hurt or Jogo who can summon a meteor from the sky and drowned the city in lava.
@@jasonwhite7910 yeah you're absolutely right it's just unfortunate that jogo can also control the battlefield by spinning lava everywhere in creating giant contracts that would hold deku's in the vicinity and can place multiply volcano heads and did you forget about this little thing called domain expansion which will even if he is little bit faster, and it's kind of wraps from there
@@Keith_Norman “little bit faster” he’s a blitz tier above him jogo is not doing anything and deku literally has air pressure to push all the lava away jogo is not doing anything.
@@JustS1lo not really. Bakugou is much faster and has much greater range and AP and DC than Sukuna. If he gets caught in his domain he would die, but he just would not allow Sukuna to use his domain in the first place. He has like city level explosions. If it wasn't for rewind All for one would have gotten one shot and he is much stronger than Sukuna
Well yeah as of right now deku's winning unfortunately but if he was fighting sakuna no way no how the broccoli would even come close to winning. Anyway even though yuji has more skill and better battle IQ there's no way he can even land a hit on Deku
@@Someone-dg8qtDeku definitely wins easily, but I wouldn't call Sukuna low tier. He would still be able to kill most humans in MHA since they have normal durability, but he's definitely not anywhere near top 10
Thank you guys for 600+ Subs! Ill be moving on from deku just for a short while so I can cover some other Heroes and Topics. Leave comments below on potential matchups you'd like to see whether its Inverse or Crossverse!
I mean hey I loved the Deku's videos too, giving him a more interpretations when people down play him quite a bit as fighter and a character xD great video
Hey Smurf have you seen the massive One Piece debunk made by Vonkey? The verse got debunked hard to Mountain level
@@AveryLuvsFrogs I havent but i will check it out. that community can never agree on AP for their verse.
@@YaBoiSmurf Yea the scaling is real all over the place in the OP powerscaling community. One minute you have someone saying Luffy is Continental the next minute you have someone saying he's Universal. Atleast the speed scaling isnt as fluid since it's consistently in the FTL ranges.
In short Deku folds Yuji like a lawn chair
Thanks for saving me 10 minutes 🙏
The only way he has a chance is if he pulls out sukuna
@@RammieReverlieDeku solos the verse but he ain’t beating Gojo due to infinity
Nah he ain't beating sukuna@@endit7934
@@Genuine-harbour Dude, I can give you power scaling if you want. However, Deku is folding him too.
Realistically they’d be good friends
Ikr
Yeah when itadori loses bro says this
shut up this is a who would win fight so quit saying thing shit its annoying i see it in every video about this kinda of thing
I hate this tye pf comments that says "They would just be friends irl" no shit.We aint giving a fuck about their relationship.We want to know who wins.We dont care what would happen if they meet.We want to know who would win If they fought
@@Darkblazer789True as fuck.Same with Tanjiro and Saitama fans
Definitely a match up I enjoyed watching. Whenever I see Deku vs anyone, most of the time it's him against Asta. Although I love Black Clover, having Deku doing the washing for once is satisfying.
As an unreasonable deku hater. Words can’t describe how much I hate this comment.
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 Mind telling me why? o.0
@@wolf-zinstinct3655 mha humour is very corny to me and deku is sometimes a part of this corny humour.
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 I see.
One thing I will say, and not as a mha fan. They do state the fight they had on death battle was won by popularity vote. If you did watch, they forgot the key quirk that would've been a Victory to deku. That being gear shift. Which is one of the most broken abilities he had in his arsenal
Just one thing... Deku punched so hard it changed entire earth's weather splitting the clouds
He sure did, that was a fire update they gave us. Was cool to see how far it spread and how long it lasted.
Tldr: *a single full powered attack from deku will probably disintegrate yujis head off into absolutely nothingness*
An Egg watching my videos is INSANE 😂😂
Not exactly it would kill him just not obliterate him.
@@YaBoiSmurfyou are stupid Deku wins against the Akatsuki in boruto including itadori what kind of trash if I'm looking at stop saying City level nothing you say makes sense get to the damn point
@@YaBoiSmurfthere is no fucking scale and get to the point stop wasting your time scaling and talk about techniques I hate when you power scale in channels be doing this shit get to the points it's annoying
It would obliterate his body to nothing
One thing thats important to know about domain expansion calcs: they don't count as creation feats. They're entirely ce usage and not physical objects
I agree. That's normally why I leave it to whoever is listening. I don't wanna crap on anyone's opinion. So if they believe that , it's on them lol
The same ce is used to reinforce their physical stats, your point?
@@CosmicFather this was 3 months ago so I'll keep it short.
The objects in a domain are essentially projections that can be interacted with. Nothing is actually created. Therefore you can't scale domain expansions as creation feats.
@@RapTapTap69 I'm saying that mahito and gojos domain is infinite sized
@@CosmicFather no they are not lol. That is entirely false. Just look at the sukuna vs gojo fight.
And by your argument that would make mahito and anyone above him scale above universal as they can create infinite space or beat someone who can create infinite space.
I couldn't comment on the last video with the Akatsuki vs Deku for some reason but fire video, I love the editing done in this video and commentary was really entertaining, even the mic's better :O
So basically Deku blitzes Yuji into oblivion and bullies him before he can even think to fight back so this is just Toji vs Megumi part 2
Nah,It would be like if Sukuna And Toji Did the Fusión dance against a Mai Zenin that can only create boxing Gloves
@@gabrielmachado1247Wonderful explination
yall remember Sakuna vs Jogo? Jogo was slightly under his speed and look how bad that turned out. Now imagine Deku doing the same but the asswhopping 100 times worse on Yuji
@@kindasomeviews 🤣 that asswhopping will 100 times faster too.
Excellent video man! I agree with every take you made. Though this isn't or shouldn't even be a debate at all.
This was never even a close debate in the first place. Yuji is massively hypersonic with mountain level ap while Deku is ftl with multi continental ap. W video Smurf.
Thanks Man! I appreciate the continued support!
Yuji is none of those 🙏😭 he’s a town level bum
ftl deku is bs but hes still relativistic
@@ctsv444 He is near the speed of light and it makes sense because his punches are warping space
@@OK-69420 i cant tell if you're joking or not
I perfectly agree with this, there is some stuff for yuji i would say buy this was truly a great analysis
Thank you good sir 🫡
@@YaBoiSmurf 👍
This never should've even been a debate, it only was because Deku gets scaled improperly. Deku slams the Jjk verse, most likely Gojo too, since Gearshift ignores inertia.
Gojo (without infinity) < deku
Gojo (with infinity) ??? Deku
In other words the claps of deku's booty cheeks absolutely vaporizes yugi
YOOOO 😲🔥 these vids been coming out quicker and quicker, brilliant surprise!
Thumbnail is heated asf yo, deku ready too mollywap sukuna plot armor fr🤣👏🏾👏🏾
S1 deku folds half the jjk verse bro why is this a debate
ask the jjk community 🤣🤣
You're either glazing too much or you're stupid
@@PocketCat6he’s joking
@@YaBoiSmurf the jjk community don't know how to read, that's the problem
Unironically, too, not quite sure where that first smash scales, but if it scales to large city level half the Jjk verse is GONE
what music are you using? its really chill
its from parasyte :) its a lofi remix. I can send it in your server if you want it
Deku beating his ass like a drum
Left Right Good Night Yuji
Bros gonna get beat by his own technique...
Good video smurf what are your thoughts on the scaling/power systems of Full Metal Alchemist (brotherhood is better frfr)
Yuji vs that rabbit hero with all her limbs is a better fight.
Preciate the comment gang but im ngl, Yuji dont scale to her either lmao
@@YaBoiSmurfsomeone tried to argue maki would beat mirko and I legit told them mirko would kick straight through her head on accident
@@chideraumejiaku3895imagine lol. maybe in a situation with equal base stats but even then thats being overly generous.
@@YaBoiSmurf ya but at least then he can die with a smile
Ngl mirko did literally one shot multiple nomus and kick their heads clean off
W video smurf. Now try and do sukuna vs all for one. Because that's like the dabura vs cell thing for clown
I think Sukuna takes it, ngl. Even with constant rewind, AFO is not winning as soon as he pulls out the domain. It'd be more interesting if we take Shigaraki, as he could prolly outlive the domain with his insane durability
Dude Deku is folding that man like a fucking lawn chair He solos Yujis verse
Deku bypass infinity therefore it's a stalemate against the verse at best
@@TomasBregmanDeku can’t bypass Infinity
@@kirbyof590stars That's what I meant to type 💀
@@TomasBregman Which is what annoys me so much about JJK verse Vs charcater, because of this one fucking ability. Gojo just makes them win or stalemate because you need a way to bypass infinity.
@@w1nther930 Deku has gearshift which could be a counter to infinity, infinity slows down things and gearshift speeds things up
shit this was never even a debate lol. A case could even be made for Kirishima beating Yuji 👀👀
believe it or not people used to try and argue otherwise lol i just wanted to have some fun on the topic.
People been glazing jjK recently putting them way higher than they should be
Jjk realistically are high low tier anime
While mha are high mid tier
@@sofakingthe2nd286 in the war arc the verse went from mid low to mid tier in power to mid high
@@erdenesaikhanamgalanhyiag8351 which one?
Nah Kirishima is pushing it
In short deku folds the verse now that Gojo is dead
Oh nah MHA fandom is cooked.
SUKUNA SOLOS MHA
YUTA SOLOS DEKU
KASHIMO OUTBLITZ AND DESTROYS DEKU(IF HE WAS ALIVE)
KENJAKU SOLOS(IF HE WAS ALIVE)
DISASTER CURSES SOLOS
@@milesXD24i agree with sukuna, and only agree with the kashimo shit cuz like, his whole schtick is being fast. other than that deku slams (no im not an mha meatrider, i just dont think that a lot of the jjk verse is on par with mha)
Ohhh no city level fodders,dekus definitely gonna lose 😭😭😭😭@@milesXD24
@@MadGodDoomhonestly if we keeping it a buck kashimo isn't gonna be faster than deku
Poor Yuji just gets one shotted by Deku 😭
This came at a great time in my recommended
W vid Smurf
Thank you!
To be honest Yuji and deku will just be friends then enemy’s
you tried really hard high balling yuji lmao. the mach 16 is crazy and the island level in AP is just funny
Honestly just wanted to be as fair as possible for those who believe he gets that high. Not my personal opinion but if others think he's that high then hey 🤷♂️ lol let em live
Great vid, but there are two things I’d like to point out for the Deku scaling:
1. With the pic you showed of All Might’s VSBW page, that only shows *Prime* All Might scaling to country level. They usually scale weaker versions of All Might to only large island. So Deku would rather be about 1.2x above country level.
2. I found the Star’s ICBM Punch calc that you used to get Deku to multi-continental. However, I’m afraid people have already debunked that calc, so Idk if I’d continue using that.
Otherwise, congrats on the 600+ subs! Keep up the great content man! 💯🔥🙌
Deku is multi continental at a low ball and probably around Moon level as he changed the weather if the entire planet
@@thegreatestoctopus9739
1. My original comment was months before Deku’s weather changing feat.
2. The weather changing feat was specifically affecting the weather only on Japan and the U.S.
3. The highest feat the weather feat’s been calculated to is the lower ends of multi continental. Even if we say Deku at his peak was 60x stronger than he was during the feat, that would still make his peak self multi continental. So nah, saying he’s anything higher is wank.
@@Oreo_166 it's not wank, the entire US was affected, including parts of it that are on the other side of the planet, which make shim at least Moon level. You're just lowballing him. But even if he is Multi continental, he still destroys the entire JJK verse
Let me hear Piano cover in the background? nice
You my friend are cultured
Deku dog walks this side character of jjk series. 💀
MC
@@naetench5607 issa joke😭
Yuji: island level via kenjakus blackout feat in shibuya (no im not talking about the blackhole feat) and mhs+ via scaling above hakaris lightning dodging feat.
Deku: continental via his storm clearing feat and relativistic+ via upscaling above stars and stripes blocking light speed attacks.
Deku blitzes and one taps
yo cuz it seems u still reply to some comments, can u reply to this one? its basically, how would do deku, the one before losing all his quirks, against a full fleshed out potential? technically yuji does have shrine, which can do already dismantle and cleave, and maybe, with shrine, he could use fuga and even the world slash, just a maybe, but possible id say. he also has his, great resistance (bro fought almost since the begining against sukuna and then killed him, bro is outta this world in resistance) + his crazy ammounts of curse energy (as i said bro was fighting king of curses for so long it was actually surreal, also spamming rct, using cleave and soul dismantle like crazy, creating a unexperience domain expansion after a long fight, which was big as hell as sought in the leaks and then still using cleave and dismantle, which was said various times too hard to use a ct after a domain, and then bro just using divergent fist which is just cursed energy overflowing), maybe a speed reaching sukunas or gojos speed, since he was already physically goated and is a familiar of sukuna, so reaching his uncs speed could technically be possible. also the soul damage u mentioned, blood manipulation and the domain expansion in itself, which seems to damage soul directly, or, at least, be able to interact with it more deeply. i still think deku would have it, but it would seem a bit more fair, since deku was almost at his peak imo, and yuji is just begining to be a monster.
I guess I'll have to do a follow up vid lol but tbh nothing changes. If you believe he got stronger it's not by much considering how black flash works and how weak sukuna is. Stat wise deku clears him even at 5% of OFA.
@@YaBoiSmurf true lol, jjk scaling hasnt ever gone that up, which is better imo, but that means it stays on the lower tier of shonen animes. still, thanks for replying
Sukuna vs Deku would be a good match up!
deku has the power and speed, but the problem is the domain. If deku doesnt have ce then he could enter and walk out like maki does, but, if sukuna chaces him in the domain its gojover for deku. he aint surviving world slash or fuga. It be a not so fair fight cause sukuna has crazy ass abilities and shit gege pulls up every chapter
@@Merc4rio91 NGL u had me at first. and then u didnt have me.
@@YaBoiSmurf😂😂😂 i mean, the main factors are sukunas domain sure hit thing and deku danger sense. Who wins?
@@Merc4rio91 considering he doesn't scale to deku in speed or ap or really anything :) deku wins.
@@Merc4rio91deku can’t just walk in and out of sukuna’s domain his domain manifests into the real world it doesn’t have a barrier
Nah yuji wins just by explaining what happened in shibuya to Deku, one taps with the depression
nah, that is.. they would need terapy and deku would try to help yuji, guy is a hero and would help in anyway he could
@@Merc4rio91yeah but i dont think deku has gone through as much shit as yuji tbh
@@MadGodDoom
Yuji:" I lost everything"
Deku:" Damn... lets be friends"
Good ending
@@vixenxia2475 LMAO
This is only a conversation because Yuji fans didnt watch MHA past season 3 where Deku got insane powerups. Yuji is not surviving even a season 6 Deku fa jin manchester smash, we dont even gotta get into gear shift and his 100% combination quirk feats.
They have been through so much dude.
Power scaling confuses me 😂
Just remember before ofa deku managed to put a whole ass truck on the top of a 30 ish foot tall pile of trash.
Yeah i feel like people forget about the fact he without ofa put a truck on top of a high ass mountain of other objects he bunched together.
@@vixenxia2475 Plus that panel he used during the sports festival was estimated to weigh around 3 tons.
Great video, although this wasn't really a debate in the first place. The only person in JJK that could beat Deku is Gojo, and even he gets speedblitzed by Deku. Infinity would be the only thing keeping him in the game and, if Deku fatigues before Gojo does, which is very likely, Gojo would win.
Sukuna could definitely beat deku too, however he'd have a harder time due to the speed gap, but sukuna could get it done if he plays his cards correctly.
Bro what are you talking about first of all deku's not fast enough to even get through Infinity and he doesn't even get speed blitz by him and sakuna would cut him up before he can even do anything and what the hell is Deku going to do against mahito who he can't even hurt him.
@@Keith_Norman I never said he speedblitzes infinity what are you on about dawg
And yes he speedblitzes Gojo, definitely, no one argues about that.
The fact that you think I said that shows me you haven't even read my comment correctly so replying to you is useless.
@@Keith_Normanu tripping lil bra
@@Keith_Norman Deku is faster than anyone in jjk sukuna is getting one shot mahito wont be able to do anything to deku as he is wayyyyyyyyyy slower gojo only lives cuz of infinity and even that is debatable as if gojo's infinity works on his preception(his six eyes being a filter to his infinity to what it allows to pass through and what not to let through in conclusion if it is preception based like its explained after his awakening gojo gets preception blitzed with infinity not activating as he legit cant see deku due to how fast he moves.
Can we get a Deku vs. Sukuna video?
You need cursed energy or a cursed tool to kill a spirit, so even if Deku is so much faster and stronger, he's incapable of dealing the final blow
@@Ritt3086sukuna is not a spirit he’s a transcended human similar to Tengen
@Ritt3086 Dude, without cursed energy you can't even see curses, making literally every crossover JJK matchup impossible. This is why we have verse equalization, so Deku can both see and fight the curses and sorcerers.
@@inferno3054 Did you just pull that out of your ass or...?
No he didn't actually. He's correct, if people want a vid like that you'd have to equalize the verse to make it make sense. People do it all the time. Making them visible for a fight changes nothing about the scaling. Not to mention, deku already sees spirits, it's not ridiculous to say he can see the curses.
Me seeing this four months later knowing Deku has no quirk now
@@ThatGuyggtufffffff wait til they find out end of story deku still beats up yuji 😂
@@YaBoiSmurfnow I think that's cap,we don't even have feats for that deku and that deku isn't even said to really be equal to all might's but it has more upgrades
@@naetench5607 theres many feats for deku without him using his quirk. deku's suit is an upgraded version of all mights. all of this just requires reading :)
Deku uses gear shift. One shots yuji= done
Domains do not infact “make” everything inside it.
That is their soul or inner mind or whatever interpretation gege chose to call it.
Agreed. thats why I leave it up to whatever a person believes. that part doesnt matter to me
You should do some One Punch Man Content!
Deku vs anyone in JJK basically goes:
“DOMAIN EX-“ Deku has won. The end. Deku also solos AOT.
Why tf u comparing aot to mha what does aot have to do with this
Hey! I enjoyed this video. If you like to have me as a quest for future anime talk, let me know! Id love to help!
Bro imagine if Yuji’s soul punches are so refined they rip out OFA’s past users-
i do mention this in the vid :) would be a wild concept fr
I think a more consistent feat you could’ve used for Weakened All Might was when he one shot the sludge monster and changed the weather. That was a mountain level feat and I just don’t see how a mountain level punch goes all the way up to multi continental when multiplied by 60. The average mountain in width is about 5-10 km while an average island usually is around a few or several hundred km’s. So if we multiply Weakened All Might’s mountain level feat from that punch and say that it was able to destroy a 10km wide mountain by 60, we would get 600 kms which is about island level. Although if we take into consideration of the height of a mountain as well, usually being a few hundred metres tall, that would take Prime All Might to country level which I think is pretty accurate for the heavy hitters in MHA. Still, really good video 🗿
That punch is Large Island level tho, it's not mountain level. Plus All Might is definitely not 60 times weaker than he was in his prime, it's likely that he is 100 times if not even more
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 there’s a calc for that weather changing punch and it’s been accepted by most that it’s just mountain+ level, large island is way too far. And after he ora ora’d with that Nomu in S1, he said that it took him 300 punches to take the Nomu down, but in his hayday he could’ve finished it in 5
@@konoheisenbergda he changed the weather across the entire city, the calcs I saw out him at Large Island level. Plus Deku changed the weather of the entire planet and he is equal to Shigaraki who is as strong as prime All Might, that alone is a better scale than the 60 times thing. Plus All Might's United States of Smash is far stronger than his normal punches, of which it would take him 5 to kill the Nomu
Deku Large Planetary+ - mftl+ (Lowball). I can easily argue with anyone
I know this was last month but good lord this is one of the most outrageous powerscaling takes I've ever seen. I love Deku, he easily solos jjk, but large planetary?? MFTL? LOWBALL??He just barely crosses FTL and Multi continental. Give me your feats for your take
@@Junoo9311 Im making an entire MHA rescale from scratch, I will complete the entire MHA scaling that no one has ever done. Also Deku never mastered over 45% and used his side quirks for fake 100%/120% and OFA 100% alone is stronger than even Overdrive so i will try to make a OFA 100% + side quirks for were he could potentially scale which it could reach even Star lvl
@@zMetaiRTPlease let me know when your done with your scale. I also scale him to Large Planetary but I'm curious how he could get to Star level.
@@AveryLuvsFrogs do u have discord?
Server coming soon 😊
99% of me knew what the outcome of this video would be, but that 1% really wanted to watch this. Great vid!!
Now the tables have turned and mha is just a pebble now compared to jjk
@@Itz_StegoYT oh how the turns have not tabled
It’s the other way around buddy
Powerscaling debates dont use characters at their weakest lol or people would just use Naruto after he lost Kurama. Not how it really works
@@YaBoiSmurf idk man with all the new stuff Yuji got I think he’s got it and Gojo def beats the mha verse prob Sukuna too
@@Itz_StegoYT this might be the running joke under this vid lmao
Yuji at the beginning of the seires vs Deku without any quarks would be a way better fight
Yuji was still superhuman due to being related to Sukuna and Choso he still had an advantage. Would be more fair when Deku just obtains OFA
@@uglyslayerandrew1808 Mg, he gets crippled with every punch while EOS Deku's body has been adapted to higher percentages of OFA. Yuji would just let Deku immobilize himself.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Yuji is not beating EOS Deku before he loses OFA.
And even when he does we don't know what his suit does so Yuji's best bet to win is fighting Deku when he first got OFA or before he started unlocking other quirks. But my point is Yuji has an advantage at the beginning vs Deku who does not have a superhuman body without his suit or OFA lmao. This is like Spiderman vs Eddie Brock without venom
@@uglyslayerandrew1808 After*
@@uglyslayerandrew1808 Deku's body is superhuman as fuck without one for all as I've just explained his body needs to be to handle its power! This is explained to us in like episode 2 of the show!
Yipeeee
ever since the new episode deku is the fastest in the whole mha verse and faster than all of the jjk verse
I personally scale Deku to Small Planet - Planet and MFTL+, but this is a good video I support
Curious about your scale chain/calcs. Feel free to hmu on Twitter or discord if u wanna talk about it
Sure I’ll defo friend you on disc in a bit@@YaBoiSmurf
Oh my god really planetary know there's no way you actually believe it and he's not much faster than light at all since the speed boost he has doesn't last and isn't sufficient enough to get him faster than light. He's sub relativistic to relativistic and no one in mha is even close to multi-continental
haven't i already beat you in an anne vs deku debate where you never provided any evidence and just showed bias?
lmao get out of here, that point is terrible.@@Keith_Norman
@@akita.1s oh I remember you now you're the guy that pretended to provide information but didn't provide anything whatsoever and Deku isn't even planetary in fact that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard I had no idea that you were this insane you didn't beat anyone . Anne beats Deku and Gojo, Sukana and Yuta stomp izuku
All I'm saying is that deku claps bro like how his dad clapped kenjaku
Yuji is screwed 😂
I wanna see what number of fingers Sukuna has that Deku can contend with
All finger sukuna still won't be a match
Any number higher than 20, next
all prob, mha verse easily outscales the jjk verse
Y e s
it'd be like million vs deku
what abt current yuji? he’s got blood manipulation and shrine so i think in ur follow up video he’ll have a much better chance :) also i disagree with what u said abt yuji rarely hitting a black flash cuz yuji is known for just spamming it and making u think he’s using it at will when he rlly isn’t he’s jus apparently rlly lucky and locked in 😭😭😭
current yuji still gets spanked unfortunately. doesnt scale much higher than when I made this vid. but i may follow up at the end of the series
Yuji still gets clapped
@@YaBoiSmurf yeah that’s true but maybe when his domain expansion gets revealed tonight from leaks it might give him the edge that’ll be enough for him to win
@@_euph0riiia the speed domains expand still ruin it for yuji. But in all honesty I'm hoping something massively upscales the verse by the end.
@@YaBoiSmurf me too man me too
I love yuji but the way I see it Deku is more likely to win because of his flight and precog from danger sense giving him height advantage and a higher chance of landing a hit.
but yuji has enhanced durability and rct allowing him to continue fighting and not get easily one shot. he even has his own shrine and blood manipulation to pull tricks on deku up close who does have heightened durability but not the pain tolerance or regen that yuji has because we have seen yuji sustain life threatening injuries to the vitals of his body considering the amount of times he's been stabbed, but deku has only been shot by a laser through the chest while all of his worst injuries are self-sustained and he struggled to even move.
now that mha has come to an end, deku's strongest punch was able to affect a large area to stop getting hit by decay and even cleared the skies. yuji's black flash was able to make pretty large craters but sukuna getting hit by black flash doesnt really show the amount of devestation it causes.
my point is that hypothetically, when both characters land a solid hit to the body, yuji would survive a 120% OFA but deku wont't survive a black flash with cleave and dismantle to the chest
1-MHA is still not finished
2-Yuji's power is still at the city level
3-We still haven't seen Deku's strongest punch because even when he didn't want to kill Shigaraki, he released 55 teratons of energy (more than the JJK universe could ever imagine).
4-We also know that Deku can one-shot Shigaraki
5-Also, Deku didn't just suffer laser damage. He easily dodged dozens of his own punches.
6-120% Deku vs Yuji is not a battle. Because Deku infinite will instantly destroy Yuji even in 100% mode. Also even 45% Deku will instantly destroy Yuji
And also cleave and dismantle...
Shrine? Blood manipulation?
He manipulate his own and his slicing requires touch
neither do anything to someone that out stats him. weve only seen 1 instance of his blood manip and it wasnt even strong enough to severely wound an extremely nerfed sukuna.
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Not a contest
Deku negs
What's crazy is that I've actually seen videos of people trying to get Yuji up to continental and saying so. Therefore, he one shot Deku which just really tells me a lot of people don't know how strong Deku is because season 4 Deku was easily contentential and here's the other thing that gets me. You can easily get deku up to planetary with the statement of shigiraki destroying the planet. Him destroying shigirakis stitch round the other statements backing up shigiraki being planetary ect So the fact that people actually debated this at one point is really sad
Yuji also hase blood manipulation... You know..
doesnt change the outcome ..you know... neither does him having the slicing techniques.
this is only about AP and speed, you need to remember how they fight and how their powers works. deku only evades shots that are from far away, other then that he prefers to fight 1v1 and get hit but also hit even stronger, and cause of the way his quirks work, he prefers to get more and more serious the longer the fight is. on the other hand, yuji fights like a normal martial artist, and tries to finish the fights as fast as possible.
also, one for all doesn't have any defense skills, so deku normally uses all for one to tense his muscles and tank hits, and that would work well against physical hits. but yuji's powers aren't (entirely) physical, they are also imbued with cursed energy, which deku can't defend against (just reminding, only jujutsu sorcerers can see cursed energy), so his attack could kill deku in 1 hit, since deku can't defend from cursed energy.
so, yuji might be weaker than deku, but he has the skills and methods to fight and kill deku. this also happens a lot in MMA
U typed all this and lied from the beginning lol
@@YaBoiSmurf that took like 2 minutes and i wasn't lying. Just cause you added a little bit of an interpretation at the end doesn't mean you aren't comparing them only based on AP and speed
@@pretro6136deku also has his other abilites
Black whip, this move can be used to defends himself to keep yuji away from him
Smokescreen, can be used to block yuji vision
Also Deku has Air Force gauntlets, these items are used so deku can make air blasts as well for range attacks
@@pretro6136deku has other things in his arsenal to help him
@@nehemiah7012 look at how he fights, he prefers to fight his opponent the same way they fight him (just look at every fight deku ever had), so in yuji's case, that would mean they would fight hand to hand, and in that case, none of those quirks can help him defend from a cursed technique, so yuji could kill deku
This didn’t age well
@@jahmallmarshall2215 you commented 2 mins ago and your comment didn't age well 💀 yuji gets slammed even still.
@@YaBoiSmurfliterally
@@YaBoiSmurfno way y’all still supporting the McDonald’s employee 😭🙏
@@AntiUni417 McDonald's employee still slamming the "just a cog" guy
@@AntiUni417 you mean the homeless hobo yuji
Akaza vs yuji?
Honestly, aside from characters such as Gojo, and true form Sukana, most major MHA characters pretty much stomp most major JJK characters.
Even Sukuna gets completely destroyed and Gojo gets killed in his own domain
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Yujis black flash wont just hurt deku it would also nerf him. Also deku healing ability is greater than sukuna and gojo since hes able to reattach a limb. In the end Deku still wins but the fight is much closer with the information that we have now until we see yujis domain expansion
Lmao no it's not, blackflash isn't doing shit to Deku, Yuji needs to get in a certain mindset to land a BF, Deku would just kill him long before he can do that
Dang it bro you spoiled me
@@greeeek_ mah fault!
@@YaBoiSmurf still great vid 🔥
@@greeeek_ much appreciated homie :)
As a mha reader and jjk reader i think deku has this ngl
You could’ve left a spoiler warning
me telling you im using deku up to chapter 400+ wasnt enough for you?
How about bakugou? Can he beat sakuna😅
that video is already on my channel :)
Bakugou will leave them all stuck in wheelchairs
Definitely. He is faster and has more range, plus stronger and hotter attacks
Yuji has come a long way but compared to the top tiers he is still weak
first of all good video Deku wins obviously. Yuji does not scale to Hakari or yuta . yuiji punched Sukuna and his cursed energy went down. if he fought any of the special grades i think he would die that includes geto.
Deku fighting the special grades? Nah he generally outspeeds and combo them to death
@@Jsipki265yeah he's really going to do well against mahito who he can't even physically hurt or Jogo who can summon a meteor from the sky and drowned the city in lava.
@@Keith_Normanjogos slow ass meteor isn't doing anything
@@jasonwhite7910 yeah you're absolutely right it's just unfortunate that jogo can also control the battlefield by spinning lava everywhere in creating giant contracts that would hold deku's in the vicinity and can place multiply volcano heads and did you forget about this little thing called domain expansion which will even if he is little bit faster, and it's kind of wraps from there
@@Keith_Norman “little bit faster” he’s a blitz tier above him jogo is not doing anything and deku literally has air pressure to push all the lava away jogo is not doing anything.
it's funny even with what's going on, deku still beats him.
I wonder what would happen if we also give yuji the one for all, along of his cursed energy…
He'd be the most broken character amongst both verses
deku speedblitzing everyone except gojo
gojo is more weak
@@facter-du6kt it’s just that gojo has infinity
@@zhnariyonclarke9473 Still weak because İnfinity is not OP power.He has so many issue and even air can bypass it.Confirmed in anime
@@facter-du6kt oh wait gear shift
to keep it simple deku violates yuji.
Im a massive jjk fan but brother, season 1 deku slams shindai yuji easily. Its not a fight its a one sided massacre
Update your list
@@exequterkuno3581 ?
deku still slams low diff since yujis domain does absolutely nothing in damage wise
@@SC4RL37 honestly even if it did, it doesnt expand fast enough to catch him in the domain.
@@YaBoiSmurf fr
Goat gets folded by bum
Bum gets folded by goat
goat gets slammed by (lesser) goat
i agree but yuji is not light speed
well its a good thing i never said he definitely is :)
Not just yuji but the entire verse Gojo included plus his infinity
Fk that. Half of jjk is a bakugou victim
@@JustS1lobruh even Sukuna is a Bakugou victim lmao
@thegreatestoctopus9739 Sukuna being a bakugo victim is Crossing it though
@@JustS1lo not really. Bakugou is much faster and has much greater range and AP and DC than Sukuna. If he gets caught in his domain he would die, but he just would not allow Sukuna to use his domain in the first place. He has like city level explosions. If it wasn't for rewind All for one would have gotten one shot and he is much stronger than Sukuna
Well yeah as of right now deku's winning unfortunately but if he was fighting sakuna no way no how the broccoli would even come close to winning. Anyway even though yuji has more skill and better battle IQ there's no way he can even land a hit on Deku
There's no way you trying to compare a city-block level fodder to a Planetary beings.
Sukuna would top as low tier in mha verse, that's it.
@@Someone-dg8qtDeku definitely wins easily, but I wouldn't call Sukuna low tier. He would still be able to kill most humans in MHA since they have normal durability, but he's definitely not anywhere near top 10
Why do you want Yuji to suffer more than he already has?
This might be the funniest comment under this video lmao
Bro, its just pretty unfair fight. Deku can just blitz Yuji in 0 sec, its not even close.
It pains me to say it, but Deku washes Yuji in every category
Why is Exe involved??😭 TWT stop
In my opinion, deku Caps at Country level at
max
Then your opinion is invalid and dumb
Deku is continental bud