Thanks for checking out this week's video! If you have any questions about my bike setup, feel free to drop them below ⬇ Also, at 0:42 I say 5'11" is 183.3cm, when in reality it is 180.3 👍
Dude you’re a super nerd I love it. I had that suspension tuning book back in the day and also The Soft Science of Road Racing Motorcycles. It makes a difference being able to understand the concepts, though sometimes the perfect setting doesn’t feel too perfect! In Soft Science they talk about available traction and throttle control; about how important it is to be able to smooth out the bike with the throttle and how most riders overlook that technique. Even though we don’t have a throttle in mtb the same principle applies and you were hinting that saying how to get used to the looser setting of wide open rebound. Important to have lap times to keep you honest!
In the past I've had Horst link bikes and set the rear up the rear shock the same way, bounce test, which seems to work for me. So after watching this I went for a ride on my Ripmo AF. I set my rear rebound to the fastest setting and rode a section of trail with lots of roots, my bike would always hang up there and slow down, but after your suggestion it just floated through it! Thank you!!!!
linkage x3 looks super cool. I've also found myself running ZERO damping on my rocky mountain altitude. I'm starting to add a few clicks of rebound damping back in but still way faster than what fox recommends
Loving the suspension updates and hearing what you've learned. I am also a coil convert for all of my riding, especially since I don't do huge hits like the freeride lines you do. I have also fallen into the ultra fast rebound rabbit hole. I fell in love with faster rebound when I dropped a spring rate and dramatically upped my compression damping. Once I matched my fork settings, the bike transformed. The grip and composure is incredible. I feel like more and more I value adjustable suspension so that I don't have to rely purely on my spring rate to tune the ride. The only downside is I have to balance how fast my rebound is so that big compressions don't double bounce me. I am curious to hear what you learn down the road and I will have to pick up that book you recommended. Cheers!
4 months in on an HD6, with Fox front and rear. I like the bike and I am happy, but I do not feel like I have the suspension dialed in yet. Interesting video.
I’m riding a Ripmo, and haven’t messed too much with suspension. I’ve done some work on suspension settings with my dirt bike, so considering I have the same DW link I may try to increase rebound and see how it feels. 🤙🏻
Very informative video! I watched it when it was first posted, but wanted to come back to ask a question about the rebound. The section explaining how the optimal rebound (for traction) may be faster than what the rider is comfortable with makes sense, especially in those more techy sections, but I was curious if bigger hits were taken into account. I see many riders at rampage have their rebound settings very slow so that they won't buck off their bike when landing a big drop or jump. Obviously the average person doesn't do anything close to the features at rampage, but I would imagine that having a higher rebound on some of the larger impacts could be an issue. Just curious about what you think.
As someone who rides a lot of the Rampage features, yes, fast rebound can be detrimental. That said, often times the idea of ‘slow rebound’ in that terrain is taken too far in my opinion as getting ‘bucked’ is more due to incorrect spring rate than your rebound setting (the book referenced in this video touches on that) Hope this helps!
Fellow ibis rider here... I too prefer fast rebound, currently converted to a coil fork "no way in hell im going back to air" still yet to experiment w coil rear.... but if its anything like my coil fork i cannot wait🎉
Yeah zero rebound is perfect for techt trails. I've found that getting rid of any rebound helps the bike and wheels keep in contact with the trail better than a few clicks towards a slower setting; the goal of suspension setting is just that anyway. So yeah, in some cases rebound isn't needed nor recommended anyway!
A thicker grip has a tad bit more cushion due to the greater amount of rubber, and I find that it allows you to hold onto the bar slightly looser. What those factors lead to is reduced arm pump in opinion and experience. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
Hey Loved the video and I was wondering you honest opinion on marzotchi suspention. I was thinking about building a custom yt capra with a 170mm z1 and coil. Mostly using this bike for trails and bike park, some urban stuff. Thanks.
More regular maintenance than metal pads with the 180mm rotor for sure, but worth it to me given the feel. That said, 200mm with resin is definitely ideal. Thanks for watching!
@@andremtb480 180mm just because that is what I had in stock, and resin pads for modulation. In an ideal I would have a 200mm rear rotor on this bike ✌🏼
Any further feedback about that b-tension adjustment? I am curious to try it but I’d probably also need to shorten my chain. Any beta you can provide before I bust out the chain breaker would be awesome!
To be honest, right when I set up my shifting with this method of b tension adjustment I rode around the neighborhood and was so stoked on it - that said, I haven't really thought about it since 😂 I am building a new bike tomorrow and am going to setup that bike with the standard b tension setting and compare the two. That was a long winded way of saying: it has been cool to try, but don't think it is a complete game changer. Hope this helps!
@@PeterJamison appreciate the reply! Maybe I’ll hold off to see if you have any thoughts after comparing the two. Looking forward to seeing the new build!
@@alexanderosherow2064 Anytime! Reach and cockpit feel is super important 🤘 Always good to see what other people are running and compare your setup, I do it all the time 🤙
Negative, just riding the HD6 right now. I have two different Commencal frames I will be building up as well as a Transition over the next few months. Trying out a few different bikes to further my knowledge of what’s available 👍🏼 In this video I do tease the next bike build if you are curious 👀
I rode for YT the past few seasons, but I currently do not have a bike sponsor. I made this video explaining the situation if you are curious: ruclips.net/video/V30a17QQPXI/видео.html
Thanks for checking out this week's video! If you have any questions about my bike setup, feel free to drop them below ⬇ Also, at 0:42 I say 5'11" is 183.3cm, when in reality it is 180.3 👍
Dude you’re a super nerd I love it. I had that suspension tuning book back in the day and also The Soft Science of Road Racing Motorcycles. It makes a difference being able to understand the concepts, though sometimes the perfect setting doesn’t feel too perfect! In Soft Science they talk about available traction and throttle control; about how important it is to be able to smooth out the bike with the throttle and how most riders overlook that technique. Even though we don’t have a throttle in mtb the same principle applies and you were hinting that saying how to get used to the looser setting of wide open rebound. Important to have lap times to keep you honest!
That is rad you have read those books! So enjoyable breaking down suspension and trying to get the most out of the bike 💯 Thanks for watching!
In the past I've had Horst link bikes and set the rear up the rear shock the same way, bounce test, which seems to work for me. So after watching this I went for a ride on my Ripmo AF. I set my rear rebound to the fastest setting and rode a section of trail with lots of roots, my bike would always hang up there and slow down, but after your suggestion it just floated through it! Thank you!!!!
Heck yeah! Love to hear it 🤘🏼Thanks for watching!
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linkage x3 looks super cool. I've also found myself running ZERO damping on my rocky mountain altitude. I'm starting to add a few clicks of rebound damping back in but still way faster than what fox recommends
Linkage X3 is so rad. Would definitely recommend checking it out!
Loving the suspension updates and hearing what you've learned. I am also a coil convert for all of my riding, especially since I don't do huge hits like the freeride lines you do. I have also fallen into the ultra fast rebound rabbit hole. I fell in love with faster rebound when I dropped a spring rate and dramatically upped my compression damping. Once I matched my fork settings, the bike transformed. The grip and composure is incredible. I feel like more and more I value adjustable suspension so that I don't have to rely purely on my spring rate to tune the ride. The only downside is I have to balance how fast my rebound is so that big compressions don't double bounce me. I am curious to hear what you learn down the road and I will have to pick up that book you recommended. Cheers!
Glad you are enjoying the content, thanks for watching! Would definitely recommend that book as well 💯
4 months in on an HD6, with Fox front and rear. I like the bike and I am happy, but I do not feel like I have the suspension dialed in yet. Interesting video.
Takes time to get dialed in sometimes, hope you are able to find an ideal setup soon 👊🏼 Thanks for watching ✌🏼
i think i need to try the mullet set up on my other bikes
Definitely worth a shot to see what you think about it!
I’m riding a Ripmo, and haven’t messed too much with suspension. I’ve done some work on suspension settings with my dirt bike, so considering I have the same DW link I may try to increase rebound and see how it feels. 🤙🏻
Heck yeah! Hope you like it 🤘 Thanks for watching!
Very informative video! I watched it when it was first posted, but wanted to come back to ask a question about the rebound. The section explaining how the optimal rebound (for traction) may be faster than what the rider is comfortable with makes sense, especially in those more techy sections, but I was curious if bigger hits were taken into account. I see many riders at rampage have their rebound settings very slow so that they won't buck off their bike when landing a big drop or jump. Obviously the average person doesn't do anything close to the features at rampage, but I would imagine that having a higher rebound on some of the larger impacts could be an issue. Just curious about what you think.
As someone who rides a lot of the Rampage features, yes, fast rebound can be detrimental. That said, often times the idea of ‘slow rebound’ in that terrain is taken too far in my opinion as getting ‘bucked’ is more due to incorrect spring rate than your rebound setting (the book referenced in this video touches on that) Hope this helps!
@@PeterJamison I see, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks!
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Fellow ibis rider here... I too prefer fast rebound, currently converted to a coil fork "no way in hell im going back to air" still yet to experiment w coil rear.... but if its anything like my coil fork i cannot wait🎉
Rad, which coil fork are you running?
Fox 36 grip2 vorsprung smashpot
Yeah zero rebound is perfect for techt trails. I've found that getting rid of any rebound helps the bike and wheels keep in contact with the trail better than a few clicks towards a slower setting; the goal of suspension setting is just that anyway. So yeah, in some cases rebound isn't needed nor recommended anyway!
🤙 Thanks for watching!
Hyped to see how the commencal turns out! Also, do you know if you’re gonna be back at highland this year?
Not looking like I will be at Highland this year unfortunately, but hopefully things change and I am able to go. Fingers crossed!
@@PeterJamison I'm going to highland on the 7th with a new bike, hope to see you there
@@Mtbshredds That is awesome! Hope you enjoy your new bike!
🤙 Another great video. 11.1K
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Just out of curiosity what are the benefits of running thicker grips and why did you choose them?
A thicker grip has a tad bit more cushion due to the greater amount of rubber, and I find that it allows you to hold onto the bar slightly looser. What those factors lead to is reduced arm pump in opinion and experience. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!
It might be worth getting the shims redone to a lighter tune in your case
Yep, I will definitely be doing that in the future ✌
What a build!
A rad one no doubt! Thanks for watching!
Hey Loved the video and I was wondering you honest opinion on marzotchi suspention. I was thinking about building a custom yt capra with a 170mm z1 and coil. Mostly using this bike for trails and bike park, some urban stuff. Thanks.
Marzocchi suspension is great! Easy to setup and works super well✌🏼 Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video!
@@PeterJamison Thanks
anytime 🤙🏻
Great video, but 180mm rotor in the rear on resin pads? I feel like I’d be going through brake pads every other ride.
More regular maintenance than metal pads with the 180mm rotor for sure, but worth it to me given the feel. That said, 200mm with resin is definitely ideal. Thanks for watching!
@@PeterJamison makes sense. So you’re going 180 for more modulation?
@andremtb480 yep, exactly! I also prefer how quickly and consistently they bed in 👊🏼
@@andremtb480 180mm just because that is what I had in stock, and resin pads for modulation. In an ideal I would have a 200mm rear rotor on this bike ✌🏼
Any further feedback about that b-tension adjustment? I am curious to try it but I’d probably also need to shorten my chain. Any beta you can provide before I bust out the chain breaker would be awesome!
To be honest, right when I set up my shifting with this method of b tension adjustment I rode around the neighborhood and was so stoked on it - that said, I haven't really thought about it since 😂 I am building a new bike tomorrow and am going to setup that bike with the standard b tension setting and compare the two. That was a long winded way of saying: it has been cool to try, but don't think it is a complete game changer. Hope this helps!
@@PeterJamison appreciate the reply! Maybe I’ll hold off to see if you have any thoughts after comparing the two. Looking forward to seeing the new build!
Hello!! What Is the weight of your HD6?
With the bomber air it is about 33 pounds, haven’t checked the weight with the coil though 👍🏼🤘🏼
how tall are you? great vid
Glad you enjoyed the video! I am 5' 11" or 180.3cm 👊
@@PeterJamison thanks! helped me think about my reach and my size medium at 5' 8
@@alexanderosherow2064 Anytime! Reach and cockpit feel is super important 🤘 Always good to see what other people are running and compare your setup, I do it all the time 🤙
@@PeterJamison super key, love hearing new perspectives and changing things up to have more fun and keep it exciting 🤙
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Are you now going to be riding ibis bikes?
Negative, just riding the HD6 right now. I have two different Commencal frames I will be building up as well as a Transition over the next few months. Trying out a few different bikes to further my knowledge of what’s available 👍🏼 In this video I do tease the next bike build if you are curious 👀
@@PeterJamison I’m excited, can’t wait
Should be good! If everything goes well with shipping there will be a new bike build dropping next week 🤘🏼
I thought u were sponsored by YT?
I rode for YT the past few seasons, but I currently do not have a bike sponsor. I made this video explaining the situation if you are curious: ruclips.net/video/V30a17QQPXI/видео.html
@@PeterJamison thanks! I’ll check it out
@@stacystopmotion2604 👊🙏
man im so lost at all the technical terms and info....i really dont pay attention to suspension setup...i put air in it and ride it...
Hells yeah. Whatever works best for you. What matters is that you ride the thing ✊🏼👊🏼