Can anyone see Koichi being one of these “American Heroes” coming as reinforcements to Japan? Maybe Captain Celebrity requested his help and he went overseas. Sounds like a stretch but it’d be a great surprise to see him returning to help Class 1A. He might’ve even gotten a big power spike overseas, working along side CC. Just spitballin’
This arc might end with Koichi facing prison time or fleeing the country. Since his only overseas contact are Makoto and Captain Celebrity it would make sense for him to end up in New York City. An NYC story arc would be pretty epic actually.
One of my theories is that at the end of all this Koichi can't stay in Japan cause stick in the mud Himawari will arrest him. So he gave him the option to leave country and since he knows CC he might reinvent himself at his hero agency. Badda bing badda boom he comes back to Japan to help out and check on his family and friends.
@@flotskryz While I can see Koichi going to America, that fact that he hasn’t shown up doesn’t mean something happened to. He is a vigilante who sticks to the Naruhata area of Tokyo, he hardly ever even leaves the area. Not only do most major events in MHA not take place in Tokyo, but those that do have never taken place in Naruhata.
well seeing that hes the main character of his own manga series i dont see why he wouldnt be in the main. But because the story isnt focused on him we dont know what hes doing. That doesnt mean he isnt doing any vigilantism here or there, maybe hes working a normal job by day and Crawler by night still. Regardless his apperance would probably be him saving Ida after he mistakes him for his brother this'll be also a good way to introduce stain again where he walks in to finnish off the attacker with crawler. also Stain would probably not attack ida since Japan is in dire need of heroes and the fact that he stayed a hero changes his mind about him. I also see Ida speaking to his brother about his encounter with the crawler.
Remember how Knuckle Duster used to spar with Koichi at basically full speed? I think that helped to train his reflexes. And considering how Number 6 dedicated to fighting as closely to Overclock as possible, his patterns may be subconsciously familiar to Koichi.
The greater koichi becomes the more concerned I am as to why he hasn’t been present in MHA. I can’t shake the feeling AFO has something tragic in store, and all might could have a story to tell.
Koichi vs. 1A would be a pure satisfaction to watch from a Vigilante reader's perspective. More unlikely than Deku vs. Koichi, but how nice would it be~ Actually another good, but bitter-sweet moment would be meeting Iida. Since his full costune looks very similar to Tenya's, Koichi could easily mistake him starting a conversation about what happened to Tenya (assuming that Koichi doesn't know)
I think on paper, Deku vs. The Crawler is one of the best fights of opposites the MHA world can throw up at this point in both their stories. Book Smarts vs. Street Smarts, The Strategist fighter vs. Improvisational fighter, The Muti-Quirk vs. The Multi-faceted Quirk, and The Eventual #1 Hero vs. The Current Home Town Hero. I think what gives Deku the edge is obviously the overwhelming power and versatile abilities stored in OFA which includes a quirk we don't know what it does but the vestiges confirm Deku knows about and can use (possibly a shooty go blam counter). But, if I was to give The Crawler the edge, I say it's his reaction speed. Deku gets the drop eventually because his analysis makes opponents become more predictable over time. If Koichi keeps adapting when backed into a corner, he might be able to wear Deku out. 8/10 Deku destroys Koichi without too much trouble and 2/10 The Crawler get a lucky knockout or at least escapes capture...like for still being a vigilante, lol.
I agree but...Deku typically finishes his fights with a bog knockout hit, something with a big wind-up and pretty punishable if he misses, and considering how maneuverable Koichi is, plus the freakin' shield, he'd be on Deku's ass real quick if he could bait him into a big move
Well koichi if he masters his quirk, he can defeat AFO with ease.. tomura can't even touch him because basically his quirk is repel, that's why even blasts from explosions can't touch him, he was faster than ignium whos the fastest hero at that time don't mention All might because he's already OP .. but his quirk repel makes him like accelerator.,
Deku final moves uses a lot of wind up times though, and Koichi was trained to counter from the beginning of his hero arc. Deku needs to tag him a lot while using full cowl, fajin and gear shift so that Koichi can't be as agile anymore, and that would be hard as hell considering Koichi knows how to cover himself in his quirk. The only reason why Deku can win in the first place is because of Float, Deku couldn't keep up with Koichi's air superiority by only jumping and swinging with Black whip
I think koichi is basically heavily slept on in the verse but I think that he has no chance against current deku. In terms of speed, and maneuverability I think that he edges but koichi just doesn’t have the firepower to put deku down compared to what damage he could deal out.
But he could probably block dekus punches like he did with number 6 and yes he has no where near firepower he is on the defensive currently if he became an aggressive fighter throughout the timeskip he will be top tier
@@mubarakhassan6060 no way he's blocking faux 100% seriously number 6 attack power doesn't even compare. That's why koichi wanted to get all might cause that's a guaranteed victory in seconds he'd dirt nap #6 with a Rhode island (smallest state lol) smash. So deku could totally beat koichi.
while i agree that deku would absolutely win a 1v1 i also think that if koichi uses his quirk right he could be doing some serious damage. koichi can make himself fly sky high in a matter of seconds by ejecting power from his feet (or whatever he is exactly doing) if he channeled that raw power into an attack that could be pretty devastating
Deku's also his own worst enemy. He can destroy himself with his quirk physically, he can get so invested in the hero mindset that he gets more and more reckless with himself, i.e. the whole last arc thus far, it's as Six said earlier about All Might, with that kind of power you either save the world or destroy it, there's no inbetween, and Midoriya has multiple other quirks he's trying to juggle ontop of everything, so I could see him burning himself out pretty easily if you let him. True, Koichi'd probably just run away if things got to that point, but I don't see Midoriya being able to seal the deal himself.
Man Koichi, I’m glad he is a hero. Cause if he was a villain after Deku than there really would not be any escape. Koichi is the Luffy of this world and his potential and his on the spot creativity with his power can make him the trickiest foe to face. And when it comes down to it, he is the most defensive hero to date. His speed is so ridiculous, he can freaking fly and make air maneuvers that Bakugo could only dream of, and his shield can stop explosions. I just want him to test it out and see if a car flying towards him if he could knock that thing away. And yeah might as well make it 1-A vs Koichi cause Deku might need all the help he can get just to catch up with Koichi, and even than he is such a slippery bastard that he might of came up with something we aren’t expecting.
@@izukumidoriya-qg8lu hes still dead, koichi can make better air maneuvers, basically has ultra instinct, and he can shoot projectiles all of this while running too
@@pumpking6687 at this point in time deku has everything to beat koichi with not much trouble there's no argument really koichi has high verstilaty but deku is now more versatile and can find ways to beat most characters in the story with quirk combination attacks
@@manuwa6630 I pray daily that we can have it announced. Considering it's popularity it might get an anime either before or shortly after its conclusion
In my personal opinion I never liked the whole concept of “quirk evolution” it seemed so contrived and random to me. But koichi seems like a natural and organic progression of a quirk or well just abilities in general
Koichi never got a quirk evolution, if anything, he got downgraded since he was a baby because his mother kept hitting him, Koichi never got a proper education about his quirk so everything he does now, he could have done it as a child if it werent for his mother
@@samiraguirre9387 yea I know but just hear me out. I didn’t like the whole concept of quirk evolution because it just seemed like it came out of nowhere. Especially with all the things that were established beforehand. Like how quirks become stronger with each generation for starters. How is a quirk getting spontaneously stronger all of a sudden without you having a child to either mix or make an advancement on said quirk? I know not every quirk is suitable for combat but the ones that are what makes some combat quirks have the conditions for evolution but other combat quirks not? And the limits and progression of quirks in general it’s known that if you overuse your ability past it’s limitations it could even be detrimental to you and you only get 1 quirk. That’s it just 1 so you have to figure out how to get stronger with it or use it smartly and it’s very rare for someone to develop new abilities related to that. Koichi however is what I feel like what the main series tried to do but correctly. With training he figured out how to temporarily fly, shoot out repulsive forces, and keep up with people with speed quirks. I know he got a downgrade but he worked his way up from that. Tl;dr: I have a lot of problems with mha’s power system (especially with Stars and Stripes introduced) but koichi gives me less of a headache and I also like him better than izuku
I think the question of rather or not Koichi can stand up to Deku in a fight is kind of unfair since Deku has 5 quirks at his disposal. Koichi's quirk is incredibly versatile however and I do think he could hold is own for a time. What I would be more interested in is where would you rank Koichi's quirk in terms of how powerful? Another is how what would Koichi's quirk be like if he was one of one for all users? How would that quirk supercharge his and in what way? Here is another one, what if Koichi was one of the carriers of one for all and Deku had Koichi's quirk at his disposal? Here is another idea to explore, How does Koichi measure up to the current class 1A and B? who would win if Koichi and Bakugo went at it? I'm more interested in that since both have one quirk that is incredibly versatile allowing for offence, defense and enhances mobility/ limited flight. Also considering the various applications of Koichi's quirk I'm led to believe his quirk is either magnetism, gravity, or makes use of kinetic energy considering how it work. Any one of the three would fit in my opinion. Anyone agree or disagree?
I love Koiichi, but I'm going to rank my below Deku. I do agree though that he belongs in that new generation S Class tier of heroes like LeMillion, Todoroki & above Bakuguo. As versatile as Koiichi is, he's not 8 completely different quirks versatile😅
Honestly he may as well be. He moves faster than Overclock, can basically fly, shoot lasers that can pierce enemies, create barriers to protect from nearly anything and keep him fighting even with broken bones, create a super-powerful energy knuckleduster, and probably more with proper time and training
This is a tricky question. The way things are now with the main series deku practically already surpassed all might. it's not to say that crawler doesn't stand a complete chance. I said it before if koichi never held back his attacks he'd be on if not past lady nagant's level of deadliness in the sense that he's fast, he can fly, he's a sharp shooter and his shooty go kablam can pierce through objects not to mention this guy is still growing we still have yet to see his united states of smash leveled super move which I'm telling you I totally see it being like iron man's unibeams in which he shoots a big ass beam out of his chest.
Deku hasn’t really even come close to surpassing All Might. Even after his injury All Might slowed the decent of the falling Tokyo Sky Egg and jump from ward of Tokyo to another. In his prime he could jump from Tokyo to Osaka in minutes. Deku only just recently became able to moving faster than a speeding bullet and even that is only with the use of multiple quirks.
@@CometX-ingare you comparing lady nagants quirk with a regular sniper? You do know early class a and a 5% deku was dodging regular gun fire and in his fight with shigi he was compared to all might ( old ) who even then has speed feats wayyy above bullet timing
I think that the firepower needs to be a point more, we know he flies by pushing himself up which mean he is pushing a steady and very powerful "Push" to the floor if he ever redirects as much strength to an attack maybe while using a "pull" to stick to the ground, it would be like getting hit by f1 car. I would like "Push and Pull" as his new quirk name
I'm pretty sure the only quirk awakening he has actually had is his ability to project his quirk from anywhere on his body. Everything else he has done has just be a different application of his quirk rather than him actually discover something completely new like say Toga being able to use the quirks of others.
Even AFO/O'Clock said if Koichi learned how to go on the offensive and get aggressive, Number 6 would get demolished. His Sgb and Sgkb are already threats not in power but in the amounts of times he can spam those
Even then he could've killed number 6 in the last fight but he's a hero If he aimed that punch kinda power at the head like knuckleduster said and he never uses sgkb directly on enemies
I would say that FIGHTING on the same level as Deku, no. Koichi relies heavily his quirk to evade and pester his enemies more than anything. If he were to develop more offensive combat techniques and applications of his quirk (as well as a more offensive mindset), then yeah, he could easily fight on the same level as Deku and likely even above. But I also would say that Koichi currently has the ability to basically be untouchable to anyone besides those in the upper levels of ability, even War Shigaraki likely struggle to tag him. Koichi is, at this point, dodging and blocking attacks from a casual bullet timer. Deku only after the war became able to move at those speeds and even then he needs to set up a whole process for it. So while Koichi can't actually hurt Deku or individuals who would be a threat to Deku at the moment (we also have to factor in his subconsciously block that keeps him from seriously hurting people) no one that isn't significantly above Deku in terms of power could actually touch Koichi right now. The Mirio comparison is pretty apt, as like Mirio, Koichi is potentially untouchable thanks to his repulsion being able to be projected from anywhere. But unlike Mirio, its unclear if he is able to properly use that ability or if he is only projecting them subconciously.
Koichi is arguably the fastest character in the series. I mean, we see O’clock keeping up with Prime All Might in a flashback. We know Six is faster than O’Clock. And Koichi and Six were going head to head in a race. Meanwhile in the main series Deku needs Fajin and Gearshift before anyone comments about him breaking the sound barrier.
Koichi is defenitly lower he feels too wanked man, in the newest manga chapter 6 said himself with his sniper rifle it's super Sonic and this was a guaranteed kill so kochi would be about transonic and building level in his raw physical defensive and offensive capabilities the shooty go blam isn't very well calced because it has no feats either than two fodder chacters being afraid of him. I don't think koichi has a chance against most of the main cast in MHA but he's still pretty cool your friendly neighborhood crawler coming to save the day he's well rounded and good for vigilantism.
Koichi can't actually hurt characters like Re-destro, Shiggy, Deku or pretty much anyone with a significant degree of durability or pain tolerance, but those character also can't really touch him like at all given what he can react to. It would pretty much just be a stalemate in most cases, with Koichi evading and failing to do any real damage until either fighter gets tired.
I know this is a super old comment but with the Vigilantes Manga over now i would say Koichi can beat anyone in the MHA main cast besides the 2 main Villians (All for One and Shigaraki),Deku,Bakugo,Stars and Stripes,Gigantomachia and All Might. But anyone else may actually be fair game. Not too many characters can react to Sniper rounds in the series even Deku was struggling with a Sniper based Villian. And characters like Ida and Uraraka would definitely be hurt by his bullet like projectiles (especially after his final power-up)
This is my first time stumbling on your channel, and I gotta say this is all class. The animation and analysis are awesome and I love the vibes! And as an avid Vig reader I’m really glad to see someone talk about this! Almost everything you said here i’ve thought about at one point! Also, another reason I would really love to see Koichi in MHA proper because he’s a sociology major. Who better to teach the kids about society and quirks than a guy who literally has a degree in it? 😂 You’ve earned a subscriber today.
All for one, overhaul, machika, shigeraki, plus ultra shigraki these people would probably be able to beat him. But these are like main villain material so that says something.
Yes koichi is my favorite vigilantes character and he is op now and it’s not like he became op out of nowhere there was a long buildup and he deserved the powerup
Defeat? No. Escape from? Yes. So V for the vigilante for escaping! I have to wonder if Koichi's mini-shields can block Air Force? They can block most of explosions, but not all of the percussive energy. Would they be able to block fast-moving, percussive air?
I’m am so confused cus everyone saying he is so strong but I’ve only read the first two chapters and he does not like he got become a good hero/viggalante at all
I'd honestly find it hard not to rank the fight as a stalemate. Deku has an utterly amazing offensive ability and is over analytical as anything. Crawler's defense is nigh unbreakable as he's nearly untouchable and who needs to analyze when your whole deal is action without thought? As I saw in a comment below someone remarked how Koichi's issue is his skills fully rely on his quirk, which is absolutely not the case as he was giving Eraser Head, the hero who can shut off quirks on a dime some real run-around issues with how he'd snap from quirkless movement to Slide and Glide with no hesitation. He's that thoughtless dancer in his very movements, he's tempered in the heat of battle as AfO said, "the Crawler has always dwelled at these depths." But I do think the two have enough going against them, Koichi's refusal to go offensive or think offensively on the fly, Midoriya's own quirks being so self-destructive if not carefully regulated, I could see the two gassing out before either got much headway on the other.
You must have put in a kitchen cause you’re back with the bangers (and mash). Koichi could definitely take Deku before he picked up the vestiges. Now, it would be a much more even matchup. I don’t expect him to have any direct contact till the final battle when all the stops are pulled out. With All Might determined to be in the fight, it would be very cool for an older Koichi to step in for a save.
I like Koichi a ton and he’s really grown on me since the start of the manga… but there’s literally zero chance Koichi could go toe to toe with Deku. Love the channel but very biased in this one. Koichi couldn’t take Mirio either. I would say he could beat Shoto, Ingenium, probably Sun Eater and *maybe* edge out Bakugo.
@@steph03tyna72 Deku is only arguably faster using his Psuedo 100%. Which requires far too much set up for him to use reliably in a fight against someone with speed like Koichi’s. Not to mention that he has no control of the direction he goes in once he uses it, while Koichi has far better maneuverability.
Great video koichi one of my favorite characters in the overall world of my hero i really hope he shows up maybe even to save All Might of a team up with Lemillion
Koichi's fast but he's far too weak to even harm 20% deku let alone 30-45%, not to mention deku's a far better fighter than koichi, deku also has more range, more lifting strength, more durability, more stamina, more power, more utility with black whip, fajin, float, smoke screen and especially danger sense. And while koichi reaction speed Is good, his movement speed is trash ( I mean no6, someone who is comparable to koichi in speed move so slow that the sound from his steps travel faster than he could, then in the latest chapter he was confident that koichi couldn't outrun a supersonic round, while deku could already keep up with todoroki's supersonic ice while he was still at 5%, while at 45% which is comparable to his previous 100% he could propel himself and launch shockwaves dozens of meters in an instant) so all deku need to do is send a city block size shockwave and watch koichi dies, also if he activates faux 100%, koichi's speed advantage will be completely nullified
Well the quirk of koichi is the nemesis of the quirk of tomura shiragaki.. the quirk repel was like the power of accelerator and Gojo .. if koichi master it to the fullest he will become so OP that even All For One can't defeat him.
Speed wise I’d say Koichi is top 5 in the series. I mean consider that we saw O’clock running alongside Prime All Might. It’s clearly indicating that they are on comparable levels of speed. And given how Prime All Might and Prime AFO were competitive they probably have similar levels of speed. But the thing is, I’m pretty sure Six is faster than O’clock. It was said that O’clock could do 4 punches in a single breath. Whilst Six could do 8. And with his upgrades in the crawler mode. I’d definitely say he’s faster than O’clock. Which makes him faster than Prime All Might and Prime AFO. And given what we’ve seen with Koichi somewhat keeping up with Six it is entirely arguable that Koichi is the second fastest character in the series. Only beaten by Six.
Can anyone see Koichi being one of these “American Heroes” coming as reinforcements to Japan? Maybe Captain Celebrity requested his help and he went overseas. Sounds like a stretch but it’d be a great surprise to see him returning to help Class 1A. He might’ve even gotten a big power spike overseas, working along side CC. Just spitballin’
Yeah the fact that we haven't seen him in the entire series means he is either dead, arrested or outside the country.
This arc might end with Koichi facing prison time or fleeing the country. Since his only overseas contact are Makoto and Captain Celebrity it would make sense for him to end up in New York City. An NYC story arc would be pretty epic actually.
One of my theories is that at the end of all this Koichi can't stay in Japan cause stick in the mud Himawari will arrest him. So he gave him the option to leave country and since he knows CC he might reinvent himself at his hero agency. Badda bing badda boom he comes back to Japan to help out and check on his family and friends.
@@flotskryz While I can see Koichi going to America, that fact that he hasn’t shown up doesn’t mean something happened to. He is a vigilante who sticks to the Naruhata area of Tokyo, he hardly ever even leaves the area. Not only do most major events in MHA not take place in Tokyo, but those that do have never taken place in Naruhata.
well seeing that hes the main character of his own manga series i dont see why he wouldnt be in the main. But because the story isnt focused on him we dont know what hes doing. That doesnt mean he isnt doing any vigilantism here or there, maybe hes working a normal job by day and Crawler by night still. Regardless his apperance would probably be him saving Ida after he mistakes him for his brother this'll be also a good way to introduce stain again where he walks in to finnish off the attacker with crawler. also Stain would probably not attack ida since Japan is in dire need of heroes and the fact that he stayed a hero changes his mind about him. I also see Ida speaking to his brother about his encounter with the crawler.
Remember how Knuckle Duster used to spar with Koichi at basically full speed? I think that helped to train his reflexes. And considering how Number 6 dedicated to fighting as closely to Overclock as possible, his patterns may be subconsciously familiar to Koichi.
The greater koichi becomes the more concerned I am as to why he hasn’t been present in MHA. I can’t shake the feeling AFO has something tragic in store, and all might could have a story to tell.
My concern is that the ending of Vigilantes will include Koichi quirk getting stolen by AFO and All Might us in that “secret” fight
@@damaniwhite8453 LOL, imagine AFO sliding around saying shooty kablam!!!!
Maybe it's not that he loses it but he can't use them because he sacrificed two of his limbs
Imagine All For One crawling around
@@Deadshot3535 whatttt
Koichi vs. 1A would be a pure satisfaction to watch from a Vigilante reader's perspective. More unlikely than Deku vs. Koichi, but how nice would it be~
Actually another good, but bitter-sweet moment would be meeting Iida. Since his full costune looks very similar to Tenya's, Koichi could easily mistake him starting a conversation about what happened to Tenya (assuming that Koichi doesn't know)
I think on paper, Deku vs. The Crawler is one of the best fights of opposites the MHA world can throw up at this point in both their stories. Book Smarts vs. Street Smarts, The Strategist fighter vs. Improvisational fighter, The Muti-Quirk vs. The Multi-faceted Quirk, and The Eventual #1 Hero vs. The Current Home Town Hero. I think what gives Deku the edge is obviously the overwhelming power and versatile abilities stored in OFA which includes a quirk we don't know what it does but the vestiges confirm Deku knows about and can use (possibly a shooty go blam counter). But, if I was to give The Crawler the edge, I say it's his reaction speed. Deku gets the drop eventually because his analysis makes opponents become more predictable over time. If Koichi keeps adapting when backed into a corner, he might be able to wear Deku out. 8/10 Deku destroys Koichi without too much trouble and 2/10 The Crawler get a lucky knockout or at least escapes capture...like for still being a vigilante, lol.
I agree but...Deku typically finishes his fights with a bog knockout hit, something with a big wind-up and pretty punishable if he misses, and considering how maneuverable Koichi is, plus the freakin' shield, he'd be on Deku's ass real quick if he could bait him into a big move
Well koichi if he masters his quirk, he can defeat AFO with ease.. tomura can't even touch him because basically his quirk is repel, that's why even blasts from explosions can't touch him, he was faster than ignium whos the fastest hero at that time don't mention All might because he's already OP .. but his quirk repel makes him like accelerator.,
Deku final moves uses a lot of wind up times though, and Koichi was trained to counter from the beginning of his hero arc. Deku needs to tag him a lot while using full cowl, fajin and gear shift so that Koichi can't be as agile anymore, and that would be hard as hell considering Koichi knows how to cover himself in his quirk. The only reason why Deku can win in the first place is because of Float, Deku couldn't keep up with Koichi's air superiority by only jumping and swinging with Black whip
I think koichi is basically heavily slept on in the verse but I think that he has no chance against current deku. In terms of speed, and maneuverability I think that he edges but koichi just doesn’t have the firepower to put deku down compared to what damage he could deal out.
yet, my friend
But he could probably block dekus punches like he did with number 6 and yes he has no where near firepower he is on the defensive currently if he became an aggressive fighter throughout the timeskip he will be top tier
@@mubarakhassan6060 no way he's blocking faux 100% seriously number 6 attack power doesn't even compare. That's why koichi wanted to get all might cause that's a guaranteed victory in seconds he'd dirt nap #6 with a Rhode island (smallest state lol) smash. So deku could totally beat koichi.
while i agree that deku would absolutely win a 1v1 i also think that if koichi uses his quirk right he could be doing some serious damage. koichi can make himself fly sky high in a matter of seconds by ejecting power from his feet (or whatever he is exactly doing) if he channeled that raw power into an attack that could be pretty devastating
Deku's also his own worst enemy. He can destroy himself with his quirk physically, he can get so invested in the hero mindset that he gets more and more reckless with himself, i.e. the whole last arc thus far, it's as Six said earlier about All Might, with that kind of power you either save the world or destroy it, there's no inbetween, and Midoriya has multiple other quirks he's trying to juggle ontop of everything, so I could see him burning himself out pretty easily if you let him.
True, Koichi'd probably just run away if things got to that point, but I don't see Midoriya being able to seal the deal himself.
Man Koichi, I’m glad he is a hero. Cause if he was a villain after Deku than there really would not be any escape. Koichi is the Luffy of this world and his potential and his on the spot creativity with his power can make him the trickiest foe to face. And when it comes down to it, he is the most defensive hero to date. His speed is so ridiculous, he can freaking fly and make air maneuvers that Bakugo could only dream of, and his shield can stop explosions. I just want him to test it out and see if a car flying towards him if he could knock that thing away. And yeah might as well make it 1-A vs Koichi cause Deku might need all the help he can get just to catch up with Koichi, and even than he is such a slippery bastard that he might of came up with something we aren’t expecting.
@@HatsAlEsman He'd be Bakugo's guaranteed death if that happened.
You are referring to koichi vs 45% deku with 5 quirks to use right 💀
@@izukumidoriya-qg8lu hes still dead, koichi can make better air maneuvers, basically has ultra instinct, and he can shoot projectiles all of this while running too
@@pumpking6687 means nothing to deku who is superior
@@pumpking6687 at this point in time deku has everything to beat koichi with not much trouble there's no argument really koichi has high verstilaty but deku is now more versatile and can find ways to beat most characters in the story with quirk combination attacks
i feel like vigilantes should be made into an anime ESPECIALLY if they put koichi in regular my hero academia
I want Koichi to meet and Bakugo and destroying him in a fight then Koichi introduces himself and Bakugo loses it even more!
I can't wait for Vigilantes anime 🤩 I'm have high hopes for it😍🔥
Are they making one yet
@@kinglattice705 not yet, but Ur no I'm so excited for Vigilante anime series 🤩😍
@@manuwa6630 I pray daily that we can have it announced. Considering it's popularity it might get an anime either before or shortly after its conclusion
@@kinglattice705 yeah 🙈, I can't wait for it🥺❤️
@@manuwa6630 Nor can I wait for Koichi to arrive in My hero proper
In my personal opinion I never liked the whole concept of “quirk evolution” it seemed so contrived and random to me. But koichi seems like a natural and organic progression of a quirk or well just abilities in general
Koichi never got a quirk evolution, if anything, he got downgraded since he was a baby because his mother kept hitting him, Koichi never got a proper education about his quirk so everything he does now, he could have done it as a child if it werent for his mother
@@samiraguirre9387 yea I know but just hear me out. I didn’t like the whole concept of quirk evolution because it just seemed like it came out of nowhere. Especially with all the things that were established beforehand. Like how quirks become stronger with each generation for starters. How is a quirk getting spontaneously stronger all of a sudden without you having a child to either mix or make an advancement on said quirk? I know not every quirk is suitable for combat but the ones that are what makes some combat quirks have the conditions for evolution but other combat quirks not? And the limits and progression of quirks in general it’s known that if you overuse your ability past it’s limitations it could even be detrimental to you and you only get 1 quirk. That’s it just 1 so you have to figure out how to get stronger with it or use it smartly and it’s very rare for someone to develop new abilities related to that. Koichi however is what I feel like what the main series tried to do but correctly. With training he figured out how to temporarily fly, shoot out repulsive forces, and keep up with people with speed quirks. I know he got a downgrade but he worked his way up from that.
Tl;dr: I have a lot of problems with mha’s power system (especially with Stars and Stripes introduced) but koichi gives me less of a headache and I also like him better than izuku
I think the question of rather or not Koichi can stand up to Deku in a fight is kind of unfair since Deku has 5 quirks at his disposal. Koichi's quirk is incredibly versatile however and I do think he could hold is own for a time. What I would be more interested in is where would you rank Koichi's quirk in terms of how powerful? Another is how what would Koichi's quirk be like if he was one of one for all users? How would that quirk supercharge his and in what way? Here is another one, what if Koichi was one of the carriers of one for all and Deku had Koichi's quirk at his disposal? Here is another idea to explore, How does Koichi measure up to the current class 1A and B? who would win if Koichi and Bakugo went at it? I'm more interested in that since both have one quirk that is incredibly versatile allowing for offence, defense and enhances mobility/ limited flight.
Also considering the various applications of Koichi's quirk I'm led to believe his quirk is either magnetism, gravity, or makes use of kinetic energy considering how it work. Any one of the three would fit in my opinion. Anyone agree or disagree?
I love Koiichi, but I'm going to rank my below Deku. I do agree though that he belongs in that new generation S Class tier of heroes like LeMillion, Todoroki & above Bakuguo. As versatile as Koiichi is, he's not 8 completely different quirks versatile😅
Honestly he may as well be. He moves faster than Overclock, can basically fly, shoot lasers that can pierce enemies, create barriers to protect from nearly anything and keep him fighting even with broken bones, create a super-powerful energy knuckleduster, and probably more with proper time and training
Dude finally someone covering Vigilantes, and good mic quality too.
Thanks man! Dedicated vigilantes channel over here! Welcome to the Bar! Knuckleduster video tonight!
This is a tricky question. The way things are now with the main series deku practically already surpassed all might. it's not to say that crawler doesn't stand a complete chance. I said it before if koichi never held back his attacks he'd be on if not past lady nagant's level of deadliness in the sense that he's fast, he can fly, he's a sharp shooter and his shooty go kablam can pierce through objects not to mention this guy is still growing we still have yet to see his united states of smash leveled super move which I'm telling you I totally see it being like iron man's unibeams in which he shoots a big ass beam out of his chest.
Deku hasn’t really even come close to surpassing All Might. Even after his injury All Might slowed the decent of the falling Tokyo Sky Egg and jump from ward of Tokyo to another. In his prime he could jump from Tokyo to Osaka in minutes. Deku only just recently became able to moving faster than a speeding bullet and even that is only with the use of multiple quirks.
@@CometX-ingare you comparing lady nagants quirk with a regular sniper? You do know early class a and a 5% deku was dodging regular gun fire and in his fight with shigi he was compared to all might ( old ) who even then has speed feats wayyy above bullet timing
Right now….. Proably not, deku in theory can chnage the weather with his punch plus 6 other quirks
I think that the firepower needs to be a point more, we know he flies by pushing himself up which mean he is pushing a steady and very powerful "Push" to the floor if he ever redirects as much strength to an attack maybe while using a "pull" to stick to the ground, it would be like getting hit by f1 car.
I would like "Push and Pull" as his new quirk name
At this point it feels like Koichi has gone through 2 or 3 quirk awakenings with how many abilities/applications his quirk has
I'm pretty sure the only quirk awakening he has actually had is his ability to project his quirk from anywhere on his body. Everything else he has done has just be a different application of his quirk rather than him actually discover something completely new like say Toga being able to use the quirks of others.
Even AFO/O'Clock said if Koichi learned how to go on the offensive and get aggressive, Number 6 would get demolished. His Sgb and Sgkb are already threats not in power but in the amounts of times he can spam those
Even then he could've killed number 6 in the last fight but he's a hero
If he aimed that punch kinda power at the head like knuckleduster said and he never uses sgkb directly on enemies
I was shaking from how happy I am this is a video. People acknowledging my boy on the badass he is gets me hyped!
I would say that FIGHTING on the same level as Deku, no. Koichi relies heavily his quirk to evade and pester his enemies more than anything. If he were to develop more offensive combat techniques and applications of his quirk (as well as a more offensive mindset), then yeah, he could easily fight on the same level as Deku and likely even above. But I also would say that Koichi currently has the ability to basically be untouchable to anyone besides those in the upper levels of ability, even War Shigaraki likely struggle to tag him. Koichi is, at this point, dodging and blocking attacks from a casual bullet timer. Deku only after the war became able to move at those speeds and even then he needs to set up a whole process for it. So while Koichi can't actually hurt Deku or individuals who would be a threat to Deku at the moment (we also have to factor in his subconsciously block that keeps him from seriously hurting people) no one that isn't significantly above Deku in terms of power could actually touch Koichi right now. The Mirio comparison is pretty apt, as like Mirio, Koichi is potentially untouchable thanks to his repulsion being able to be projected from anywhere. But unlike Mirio, its unclear if he is able to properly use that ability or if he is only projecting them subconciously.
Koichi is arguably the fastest character in the series. I mean, we see O’clock keeping up with Prime All Might in a flashback. We know Six is faster than O’Clock. And Koichi and Six were going head to head in a race. Meanwhile in the main series Deku needs Fajin and Gearshift before anyone comments about him breaking the sound barrier.
8:23 Not gonna lie, I forgot about the whole love triangle plot thing with Koichi exist.
Koichi is defenitly lower he feels too wanked man, in the newest manga chapter 6 said himself with his sniper rifle it's super Sonic and this was a guaranteed kill so kochi would be about transonic and building level in his raw physical defensive and offensive capabilities the shooty go blam isn't very well calced because it has no feats either than two fodder chacters being afraid of him.
I don't think koichi has a chance against most of the main cast in MHA but he's still pretty cool your friendly neighborhood crawler coming to save the day he's well rounded and good for vigilantism.
Koichi can't actually hurt characters like Re-destro, Shiggy, Deku or pretty much anyone with a significant degree of durability or pain tolerance, but those character also can't really touch him like at all given what he can react to. It would pretty much just be a stalemate in most cases, with Koichi evading and failing to do any real damage until either fighter gets tired.
I know this is a super old comment but with the Vigilantes Manga over now i would say Koichi can beat anyone in the MHA main cast besides the 2 main Villians (All for One and Shigaraki),Deku,Bakugo,Stars and Stripes,Gigantomachia and All Might. But anyone else may actually be fair game. Not too many characters can react to Sniper rounds in the series even Deku was struggling with a Sniper based Villian. And characters like Ida and Uraraka would definitely be hurt by his bullet like projectiles (especially after his final power-up)
It's time to redo this video with the current deku vs koichi again 😊
How strong is koichi
My boys battle intelligence is A LOT higher than a C+ and I think his chase against Eraser-Head proves that.
Deku vs koichi! I need this NOW!! 🔥
My man koichi needs to make an appearance in the story. Horikoshi 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 make this happen! 🤞😬🙏
This is my first time stumbling on your channel, and I gotta say this is all class.
The animation and analysis are awesome and I love the vibes!
And as an avid Vig reader I’m really glad to see someone talk about this! Almost everything you said here i’ve thought about at one point!
Also, another reason I would really love to see Koichi in MHA proper because he’s a sociology major. Who better to teach the kids about society and quirks than a guy who literally has a degree in it? 😂
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All for one, overhaul, machika, shigeraki, plus ultra shigraki these people would probably be able to beat him. But these are like main villain material so that says something.
Back then maybe, now? He’s lucky deku doesn’t kill.
The thing about Kouichi is that he doesn't work alone. He has people supporting him every step of the way
Hm, who would a good and/or fitting match for Koichi in DEATH BATTLE?
"After the Naruhata War ends Koichi maybe be arrested"
The manga series final: hey
i want koichi to be a charater in MHA: strongest hero, he'd be awesome!
Hey Dan! About time you remake this vid🤝
Oh word?
Koichi vs Midoriya is saying Superboy vs Robin
How would the final battle of Deku and Shigaraki effect the vigilantes.
Yes koichi is my favorite vigilantes character and he is op now and it’s not like he became op out of nowhere there was a long buildup and he deserved the powerup
Defeat? No. Escape from? Yes. So V for the vigilante for escaping!
I have to wonder if Koichi's mini-shields can block Air Force? They can block most of explosions, but not all of the percussive energy. Would they be able to block fast-moving, percussive air?
I’m am so confused cus everyone saying he is so strong but I’ve only read the first two chapters and he does not like he got become a good hero/viggalante at all
Keep reading because koichi became the top tier in the verse especially after the recent chapter 116
Koichi has evolved to a level beyond most pros and he still hasn't reached his peak yet
Koichi body’s almost all of class 1A lol and some pro heros
While the series are VASTLY DIFFERENT in themes, Koichi’s evolution definitely reminds me of Jagaaan. Maybe its the whole shooty thing 😂
I'd honestly find it hard not to rank the fight as a stalemate.
Deku has an utterly amazing offensive ability and is over analytical as anything. Crawler's defense is nigh unbreakable as he's nearly untouchable and who needs to analyze when your whole deal is action without thought?
As I saw in a comment below someone remarked how Koichi's issue is his skills fully rely on his quirk, which is absolutely not the case as he was giving Eraser Head, the hero who can shut off quirks on a dime some real run-around issues with how he'd snap from quirkless movement to Slide and Glide with no hesitation. He's that thoughtless dancer in his very movements, he's tempered in the heat of battle as AfO said, "the Crawler has always dwelled at these depths."
But I do think the two have enough going against them, Koichi's refusal to go offensive or think offensively on the fly, Midoriya's own quirks being so self-destructive if not carefully regulated, I could see the two gassing out before either got much headway on the other.
I'm imagining Dekus danger sense screaming out as Koichi points a shooty go blam at him and then it's only the power of a punch.
Koichi's new Shooty go Smash, however, would definitely have the danger sense screaming
You must have put in a kitchen cause you’re back with the bangers (and mash).
Koichi could definitely take Deku before he picked up the vestiges. Now, it would be a much more even matchup. I don’t expect him to have any direct contact till the final battle when all the stops are pulled out. With All Might determined to be in the fight, it would be very cool for an older Koichi to step in for a save.
Great vid!! Glad to have them back! Cheers mate ✌🏼
I can’t wait for the MHA vigilantes anime.
Wouldn’t koichi just weigh deku down with act 3
Is that you..Pucci?
I wonder if koichi is now faster than iida or if iida became faster after that burst to catch deku.
`100% is faster! our boyo can FLY!!!
@@DanExclaims idk man, flying doesn't really mean you're faster like at all. Just a different quirk. I'd honestly put iida as faster
@@monke1419 I'd put Koichi as faster, seeing as how he was almost as fast if not faster than number 6
@@bigdumber7242 but we don't really know how fast number 6 is compared to iida
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I like Koichi a ton and he’s really grown on me since the start of the manga… but there’s literally zero chance Koichi could go toe to toe with Deku. Love the channel but very biased in this one. Koichi couldn’t take Mirio either. I would say he could beat Shoto, Ingenium, probably Sun Eater and *maybe* edge out Bakugo.
He definitely couldn’t beat Deku or Mirio, but they also wouldn’t be able to touch him.
@@CometX-ing Why ? Deku is faster
@@steph03tyna72 Deku is only arguably faster using his Psuedo 100%. Which requires far too much set up for him to use reliably in a fight against someone with speed like Koichi’s. Not to mention that he has no control of the direction he goes in once he uses it, while Koichi has far better maneuverability.
@@CometX-ing i mean isn't Deku still faster without Fajin ? I mean at 45% he claps
@@steph03tyna72 He surely isn’t fast enough to tag Koichi, someone who can keep up with a casual bullet timer.
Great video koichi one of my favorite characters in the overall world of my hero i really hope he shows up maybe even to save All Might of a team up with Lemillion
Koichi's fast but he's far too weak to even harm 20% deku let alone 30-45%, not to mention deku's a far better fighter than koichi, deku also has more range, more lifting strength, more durability, more stamina, more power, more utility with black whip, fajin, float, smoke screen and especially danger sense. And while koichi reaction speed Is good, his movement speed is trash ( I mean no6, someone who is comparable to koichi in speed move so slow that the sound from his steps travel faster than he could, then in the latest chapter he was confident that koichi couldn't outrun a supersonic round, while deku could already keep up with todoroki's supersonic ice while he was still at 5%, while at 45% which is comparable to his previous 100% he could propel himself and launch shockwaves dozens of meters in an instant) so all deku need to do is send a city block size shockwave and watch koichi dies, also if he activates faux 100%, koichi's speed advantage will be completely nullified
All i can do is imagine if Slide & Glide was powered by OFA..Dude Would be like Kuma from One Piece
I believe Koichi is on par with All Might with reaction speed. Not running speed I mean reaction speed.
Well i mean Koichi is a very realible guy
I'm just saying he is to be avoided.... let's just say he's nothing to slide around it.
Yooo can we PLEASE talk about ch. 110??? 😭😭😭 knuckleduster 😫😫😫
He has the same fight intelligence as naruto it seems
Still saying nuke strong character, I'm just saying
Plus Ultra Dragon Shot
Well the quirk of koichi is the nemesis of the quirk of tomura shiragaki.. the quirk repel was like the power of accelerator and Gojo .. if koichi master it to the fullest he will become so OP that even All For One can't defeat him.
Nice video , I agree with your opinion
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Hmm... Does the speech bubble 💬 cause the copyright? Just curious.
In terms of control, Koichi Stomps Deku. Power output, Deku wins. Koichi vs Danger sense Deku. Who can out dodge the other?
Hey weird question what are all the anime/manga in your intro
So basically koichi is spider-man ok
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Can you defeat Deku?
Speed wise I’d say Koichi is top 5 in the series. I mean consider that we saw O’clock running alongside Prime All Might. It’s clearly indicating that they are on comparable levels of speed. And given how Prime All Might and Prime AFO were competitive they probably have similar levels of speed. But the thing is, I’m pretty sure Six is faster than O’clock. It was said that O’clock could do 4 punches in a single breath. Whilst Six could do 8. And with his upgrades in the crawler mode. I’d definitely say he’s faster than O’clock. Which makes him faster than Prime All Might and Prime AFO. And given what we’ve seen with Koichi somewhat keeping up with Six it is entirely arguable that Koichi is the second fastest character in the series. Only beaten by Six.
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From what you say koichi sounds like 30 to 40 percent of deku power
Since Deku doesn't has Super Healing, Koichi has a Chance