So now is the time to remind you of the time Littlefinger told Sansa and Arya about the Hound being burned by his brother and ended it with "don't let him know you know" implying that the HOund would kill them if he knew that they knew. Yet, the Hound has done everything to protect Sansa. When she says "you won't hurt me" she's realizing that Littlefinger lied and that the Hound was not the monster that LIttlefinger portrayed. Granted, Arya has a problem with the Hound for killing the butcher's boy, but again he was doing it under JOffrey's orders.
If Cersei killed Tommen, only for the Lannisters to win, Cersei would absolutely have... found a way to make it all Tyrion's fault. That's just how her mind works, on a regular basis. Regarding 18:00 and Sansa not saying "Yes" to Sandor... by this point, Sansa has learned very well that nobody is to be trusted, and anything can be a trap. _Especially_ people who work for the Lannisters, but also claim to be on her side. She trusted Joffrey, and she trusted Cersei, and they captured her father and cut off his head. Ever since then, she's been called a "stupid girl" by everybody, to the point where she believes it, so she can't even trust her own judgment.
In the first season of The Witcher a Castle was under siege, and the Royal families prepared to poison their own children. I won't say whether they did or not, but it seems to have been a common medieval practice to protect their offspring from a much greater fate.
Yes, but it was changed to...someone else, as the show was trying to make Cersei more sympathetic(it never worked for me and I still treated book Cersei as the canon).
The hound has his own kind of honor. Bronn, on the other hand, is a sellsword, and the hound hates his cavalier attitude towards war, killing, sex, etc. That's what it seems like anyway. Not sure they even interacted in the books but I don't really remember.
For all that Cersei wants to pretend she's teaching Sansa about how the real world works and acting as a cynical drunk mentor, Sansa is way ahead of her in terms of actually showing leadership. She's the one actually trying to keep the civilians they're trapped with calm and keep up morale, which is compassionate, politically advantageous and just plain sensible,.since if there's a panic it could get them killed. Meanwhile, Cersei, the Queen, gives up all responsibility immediately in favour of getting hammered and telling everyone they're all going to be horribly assaulted. She's actively making things worse for everyone in that room, herself included, and she honestly seems to think she's the only one being sensible. God she's a mess. A great character, but a mess.
Book Facts!: -"He's just doing this for the heck of it?" Remember, Ser Ilyn Payne is a knight and sworn to House Lannister. He was captain of the guards for Tywin and lost his tongue when he said that Tywin and not Aerys ruled the seven kingdoms. -Stannis is a badass. Explosive napalm goes off and he just continues the attack. And besides that, remember that he lived on rats, cats and dogs rather than surrender during the year his brother was warring with King Aerys. -The Blackwater Battle plan of the show was fine, but could have been much better, as it shows Tyrion's brilliance. Book version is so much better. Tyrion, upon his arrival to the city, has the smiths make an absolutely massive boom chain stretched across the Blackwater. Davos, upon entering, thinks that the chain is made to be raised to keep them out, but after the wildfire trap is set off(by one of the flaming ships trying to use their new Swordfish shaped ram), the boom chain is raised and the current of the Blackwater carries the burning ships into the non burning ships, as well as keeps Salladhor's bigger war ships out). -14:34, I cannot laud Rory Mccann's acting here enough. The way his voice breaks as he says that the Blackwater is on fire, the way he hangs his head, totally broken, as Joffrey screams at him to keep fighting. -The book version of Sansa and the Hound's goodbye has him threaten her with a knife and it's suggested he might try to rape her as he orders her to sing a song for him. She sings the song about the Mother for him and she feels his face in the dark and feels that he's crying before he leaves, throwing down his Kingsguard cloak. She keeps it for herself and when others say that he fled because he was a coward, she knows that its the fire he was afraid of. -Tyrion's attempted murder is far worse in the books, with him losing a)a piece of his lip b)having an enormous scar from above his eye to below his lip and c)losing his entire nose. He later realizes that Cersei was the one who sent the Kingsguard knight to make sure he never returned from the battle, but he has no proof with Ser Mandon dead. -Since the armor is so nondescript in the show, it's hard to see, but Loras is wearing Renly's armor. In the books, it's far more distinct, bright green and with golden antlers. Here, it just looks like pretty much every other armor. In the books, the armor makes people believe Renly's ghost has returned(and, since many of Stannis's army are former Renly bannermen before his assassination by shadow baby, they panic and flee). In the book, the armor is worn by Loras's older brother Garlan(as it doesn't fit Loras). However, Loras and Margaery are the only children of the Tyrell's in the show, hence the change(/lazy writing). -"We've won! Joffrey will remain king!" "Yay?" See, the thing is, for me, I wanted Stannis to win, but I also didn't want Sansa and Tyrion to die. So...sorta yay.
Tyrion suspects Cersei, but everyone says Mandon is loyal to the King and not to the Lanisters. This implies Joffrey ordered Tyrion killed. Unless more evidence is found in the 2nd half of the book, I haven't finished my re-read.
I'm a bit surprised by your choice of Sansa as a potential monarch. I mean, maybe sometime later in her life, if you see a promising spark in her, but right now? She's very much still a child who wasn't raised to rule and has minimal relevant life experience, so she'd have no idea what she was doing. We see her showing more of a sense of duty and empathy than Cersei, which is certainly a good thing, but also not a very high bar.
Sansa was raised to be the Lady of a Keep/Castle. The same role that her mother held. She may not have been raised to rule over Westeros, but she was raised to be a leader & a diplomat. While out of her depth, she wouldn't be completely ignorant nor incompetent & she'd have The Small Council (for what they're worth). At least she could count on Tyrion, should he survive, & Varys. That said, she does seem to have entered into her circumstances with surprising naiveté. Why her education didn't aim to ground her in certain harsh realities I can't say. It's odd. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@@becca1189 Sansa does a great job rallying the spirits of the other ladies during the battle, which should have been Cersei's responsibility, but I'm not sure that translates over to making political and diplomatic decisions. Queen Consort is a very different job from Queen Regnant. As you say, she's startlingly naive at the beginning of the story, which I found surprising. It seems like she was still being raised like a small child, not like they were preparing her for her future real-world duties. Cat is a very shrewd and capable Lady of Winterfell (in most ways, anyway), but Sansa still thought life was like in the songs and stories she was raised on. Can you really tell me 1x01 Sansa was adept at leadership and diplomacy?
@@tehcoolemu Inexperienced to be sure, but why? Sansa was definitely educated. She had the book knowledge. There would be a learning curve, but seeing her potential isn't so odd. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Also, Varys clearly has his own plans for the realm (not a spoiler since he admits as much in season 1) and they clearly don't involve stannis on the throne.
Have you noticed the pattern, Lexi? Episode 9 of every season is always The Big One(tm). Stay tuned! Oh, and this is actually the least epic of the show's major battles... 😎
Varys probably regards Joffrey as someone who can be controlled. He knows that Tywin is the true power behind the scenes.
Wednesday has fast become my favorite day for reaction videos. We have Awkward Ashleigh starting Buffy, Funnylilgal starting Dr Who, and Lexi on GoT!
My feelings exactly! So cool!
Probem: I was meant to be working this afternoon, not binge watching reaction videos!
And Jules now on Season 5 on Doctor Who.
So now is the time to remind you of the time Littlefinger told Sansa and Arya about the Hound being burned by his brother and ended it with "don't let him know you know" implying that the HOund would kill them if he knew that they knew.
Yet, the Hound has done everything to protect Sansa. When she says "you won't hurt me" she's realizing that Littlefinger lied and that the Hound was not the monster that LIttlefinger portrayed.
Granted, Arya has a problem with the Hound for killing the butcher's boy, but again he was doing it under JOffrey's orders.
"Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them."
Honestly one of the most bad ass lines in the entire show.
George was so proud of that line. He even mentioned it in the commentary track (it's in the book)
Finally: a reactor that wants the children to die. 😀 Time to subscribe.
One of the Greatest siege battle ever
If Cersei killed Tommen, only for the Lannisters to win, Cersei would absolutely have... found a way to make it all Tyrion's fault. That's just how her mind works, on a regular basis.
Regarding 18:00 and Sansa not saying "Yes" to Sandor... by this point, Sansa has learned very well that nobody is to be trusted, and anything can be a trap. _Especially_ people who work for the Lannisters, but also claim to be on her side. She trusted Joffrey, and she trusted Cersei, and they captured her father and cut off his head. Ever since then, she's been called a "stupid girl" by everybody, to the point where she believes it, so she can't even trust her own judgment.
Book version had another possible way out planned(not saying who with because they don't take part until season 4).
NyxandChill AND Lexicrowd releasing new videos on the same day!? This is great.
In the first season of The Witcher a Castle was under siege, and the Royal families prepared to poison their own children. I won't say whether they did or not, but it seems to have been a common medieval practice to protect their offspring from a much greater fate.
Yeah unfortunately the show was crap after season 1
One of my favorites.
Sansa is the queen of passive aggressive 😂😂
Actually this is one of the smaller battles
loras entering the red keep (wearing renly’s armor 😭😭😭) like “l’oreal, i’m worth it” and i’m here screaming but daddy i love him
If I remember right, didn't Cersei tell one of her guards to make sure Tyrion didn't survive the battle?
Yes, but it was changed to...someone else, as the show was trying to make Cersei more sympathetic(it never worked for me and I still treated book Cersei as the canon).
@@phousefilms I never read the book, I was going off of what I thought I remembered about what happened in the show.
Wildfire provided by wesley wyndam-pryce’s father
You know I've seen GoT and Angel more times than I can count and I never noticed that! Seven hells!!!
@@MerryMachiavelli same i only noticed during my last rewatched a few months back, i think the actor died soon after being Got aswell
Why does The Hound want to start a fight with Bronn here? Is that explained in the book?
The hound has his own kind of honor. Bronn, on the other hand, is a sellsword, and the hound hates his cavalier attitude towards war, killing, sex, etc. That's what it seems like anyway. Not sure they even interacted in the books but I don't really remember.
For all that Cersei wants to pretend she's teaching Sansa about how the real world works and acting as a cynical drunk mentor, Sansa is way ahead of her in terms of actually showing leadership. She's the one actually trying to keep the civilians they're trapped with calm and keep up morale, which is compassionate, politically advantageous and just plain sensible,.since if there's a panic it could get them killed. Meanwhile, Cersei, the Queen, gives up all responsibility immediately in favour of getting hammered and telling everyone they're all going to be horribly assaulted. She's actively making things worse for everyone in that room, herself included, and she honestly seems to think she's the only one being sensible.
God she's a mess. A great character, but a mess.
Book Facts!:
-"He's just doing this for the heck of it?" Remember, Ser Ilyn Payne is a knight and sworn to House Lannister. He was captain of the guards for Tywin and lost his tongue when he said that Tywin and not Aerys ruled the seven kingdoms.
-Stannis is a badass. Explosive napalm goes off and he just continues the attack. And besides that, remember that he lived on rats, cats and dogs rather than surrender during the year his brother was warring with King Aerys.
-The Blackwater Battle plan of the show was fine, but could have been much better, as it shows Tyrion's brilliance. Book version is so much better.
Tyrion, upon his arrival to the city, has the smiths make an absolutely massive boom chain stretched across the Blackwater. Davos, upon entering, thinks that the chain is made to be raised to keep them out, but after the wildfire trap is set off(by one of the flaming ships trying to use their new Swordfish shaped ram), the boom chain is raised and the current of the Blackwater carries the burning ships into the non burning ships, as well as keeps Salladhor's bigger war ships out).
-14:34, I cannot laud Rory Mccann's acting here enough. The way his voice breaks as he says that the Blackwater is on fire, the way he hangs his head, totally broken, as Joffrey screams at him to keep fighting.
-The book version of Sansa and the Hound's goodbye has him threaten her with a knife and it's suggested he might try to rape her as he orders her to sing a song for him. She sings the song about the Mother for him and she feels his face in the dark and feels that he's crying before he leaves, throwing down his Kingsguard cloak. She keeps it for herself and when others say that he fled because he was a coward, she knows that its the fire he was afraid of.
-Tyrion's attempted murder is far worse in the books, with him losing a)a piece of his lip b)having an enormous scar from above his eye to below his lip and c)losing his entire nose. He later realizes that Cersei was the one who sent the Kingsguard knight to make sure he never returned from the battle, but he has no proof with Ser Mandon dead.
-Since the armor is so nondescript in the show, it's hard to see, but Loras is wearing Renly's armor. In the books, it's far more distinct, bright green and with golden antlers. Here, it just looks like pretty much every other armor. In the books, the armor makes people believe Renly's ghost has returned(and, since many of Stannis's army are former Renly bannermen before his assassination by shadow baby, they panic and flee). In the book, the armor is worn by Loras's older brother Garlan(as it doesn't fit Loras). However, Loras and Margaery are the only children of the Tyrell's in the show, hence the change(/lazy writing).
-"We've won! Joffrey will remain king!" "Yay?" See, the thing is, for me, I wanted Stannis to win, but I also didn't want Sansa and Tyrion to die. So...sorta yay.
Tyrion suspects Cersei, but everyone says Mandon is loyal to the King and not to the Lanisters. This implies Joffrey ordered Tyrion killed.
Unless more evidence is found in the 2nd half of the book, I haven't finished my re-read.
Nothing is as terrifying as a truly just man.
I'm a bit surprised by your choice of Sansa as a potential monarch. I mean, maybe sometime later in her life, if you see a promising spark in her, but right now? She's very much still a child who wasn't raised to rule and has minimal relevant life experience, so she'd have no idea what she was doing. We see her showing more of a sense of duty and empathy than Cersei, which is certainly a good thing, but also not a very high bar.
Sansa was raised to be the Lady of a Keep/Castle. The same role that her mother held. She may not have been raised to rule over Westeros, but she was raised to be a leader & a diplomat. While out of her depth, she wouldn't be completely ignorant nor incompetent & she'd have The Small Council (for what they're worth). At least she could count on Tyrion, should he survive, & Varys. That said, she does seem to have entered into her circumstances with surprising naiveté. Why her education didn't aim to ground her in certain harsh realities I can't say. It's odd. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
@@becca1189 Sansa does a great job rallying the spirits of the other ladies during the battle, which should have been Cersei's responsibility, but I'm not sure that translates over to making political and diplomatic decisions. Queen Consort is a very different job from Queen Regnant.
As you say, she's startlingly naive at the beginning of the story, which I found surprising. It seems like she was still being raised like a small child, not like they were preparing her for her future real-world duties. Cat is a very shrewd and capable Lady of Winterfell (in most ways, anyway), but Sansa still thought life was like in the songs and stories she was raised on. Can you really tell me 1x01 Sansa was adept at leadership and diplomacy?
@@tehcoolemu Inexperienced to be sure, but why? Sansa was definitely educated. She had the book knowledge. There would be a learning curve, but seeing her potential isn't so odd. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
One of the *best* episodes of the whole show!🤩🔥💚
SPOILER
25:05 - 25:38 I'll just leave this here for the posterity.
Varys was castrated by a wizard. That's why he has a deep hatred for magicians... Including Melissandre, and by association he hates stannis too.
Varys
This is a spoiler
Also, Varys clearly has his own plans for the realm (not a spoiler since he admits as much in season 1) and they clearly don't involve stannis on the throne.
❤🧡💛💚💙💜
10:01 why did you talk??? you lost "thousands"...i know it's just a word but it's too good
Yeah man I was waiting for her to be more shook to find out abt unforgiving,unretreating nature of Stannins.
Have you noticed the pattern, Lexi? Episode 9 of every season is always The Big One(tm). Stay tuned! Oh, and this is actually the least epic of the show's major battles... 😎
No it is the most epic battle in the show because it makes sense
Battles in seasons 5-8 look cool but they make no sense and the writing is awful
@@dominikjanda8832 Even if that were the case, aren't you forgetting something...?