Dear Rabbit: Stop Threatening 14 Year Olds

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  • Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
  • After seeing how awful the Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin were, I knew I'd have to talk about it.
    When I saw how brain dead Jesse was, I realized it was time.
    I'm so sorry to put you all through this.
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    Edited by Ph4se0n3
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Комментарии • 603

  • @sekerhalithamza
    @sekerhalithamza 29 дней назад +861

    AI is in it's Juicero era

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. 29 дней назад +11

      Prime said this

    • @user-hl7ic7wc1r
      @user-hl7ic7wc1r 29 дней назад +68

      ​@@TomNook.* The verge wrote it and prime read it.

    • @Greeem
      @Greeem 29 дней назад +19

      @@monad_tcp so you know what it is. why ask what it is

    • @Adrot
      @Adrot 28 дней назад +4

      ​@@monad_tcpAnd you failed.

    • @Florian_Kiel
      @Florian_Kiel 25 дней назад

      LOL

  • @JohnMcclaned
    @JohnMcclaned 29 дней назад +1171

    hardware gpt4 wrappers are wild

    • @dingus1720
      @dingus1720 29 дней назад +140

      according to the r1 though, it's not even gpt-4, it's a fine-tuned gpt-3 lmao

    • @Emayeah
      @Emayeah 29 дней назад

      @@dingus1720 LMAOOOOOOOO they don't even have the money for gpt4 and they market it with complex words to make it look like it is powerful
      this is truly a snake oil salesman moment

    • @firstnamelastname2971
      @firstnamelastname2971 29 дней назад +13

      Absolutely savage

    • @rethardotv5874
      @rethardotv5874 29 дней назад +16

      @@dingus1720gpt4 costs 10 times as much as gpt3

    • @ccash3290
      @ccash3290 29 дней назад

      ​@@rethardotv5874the gpt3 API is $0.50 vs $10 gpt 4 per 1 million tokens. For an enterprise company openai can sell them a server for unlimited usage.

  • @aenguswright7336
    @aenguswright7336 29 дней назад +465

    I mean, the CEO literally says if you read between the lines, “this product could exist as an app, but if we did it as an app, someone else could too, and then we couldn’t force everyone to use us”

    • @sarthak-ti
      @sarthak-ti 28 дней назад +55

      They’re literally a gpt4 wrapper. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an app that already does it better

    • @MEHLOW
      @MEHLOW 25 дней назад

      @@sarthak-tishare an app that’s better, then without having to pay ai subscription.

    • @incription
      @incription 25 дней назад

      there is, but like you said, a gpt4 wrapper will always be as bad as gpt4, which means you will always get hallucinations and stuff@@sarthak-ti

    • @ReigoVassal
      @ReigoVassal 22 дня назад +8

      So they want complete monopoly. Got it

    • @neolordie
      @neolordie 22 дня назад

      Every company want monopoly duh, the only reason Microsoft isn't one in multiple industries is because they can't just buy everything without prior agreement with countries and such​@@ReigoVassal

  • @WyrdieBeardie
    @WyrdieBeardie 28 дней назад +308

    If we only had some rectangular device, with a camera... No, a camera for forwards and one backwards... With a speaker AND a microphone... Yeah... And a screen... No... No wait... A TOUCHSCREEN!!! And can communicate ✨ wirelessly ✨
    With sensors that can detect shaking and stuff...
    And runs android!
    Where else are you going to get all that?!

    • @Soraking007
      @Soraking007 25 дней назад +45

      Truely a device does not exist. Thank goodness these clowns made one! Praise rabbit!

    • @tezcanaslan2877
      @tezcanaslan2877 14 дней назад +21

      On the craig tablet from cashies

    • @mattplays3824
      @mattplays3824 10 дней назад +4

      Wow! This is SUCH a great idea! Thank you rabbit for totally being the first to do this!!!! 😊😊

    • @TheCommanderTaco
      @TheCommanderTaco 7 дней назад +2

      And a button on the side to raise or lower the volumes...no wait a complicated amount of movements because we want to save people time.

    • @lady.foxpoint
      @lady.foxpoint 7 дней назад +2

      ​​@@tezcanaslan2877oh mate.. at this point we just gotta understand the old mate craig is leagues above everyone else
      it's not surprising they have made it! AND to top it all off a cool blue disc with the silver ring around it

  • @fake172
    @fake172 29 дней назад +721

    "I don't think its worth shaming for using android as a starting point.... because they have soo much other stuff that we can make fun of."

    • @DryPaperHammerBro
      @DryPaperHammerBro 27 дней назад +15

      Look, the AOSP is there for folk to fuck with, and thus, it's fine to start with it

    • @ilonachan
      @ilonachan 26 дней назад +34

      It's fine to use as a starting point, but it's embarrassing if you literally don't go beyond that in any way whatsoever while pretending you are.

    • @kenzie4217
      @kenzie4217 25 дней назад +23

      ​​@@ilonachan Agree. It's moreso the fact that they're pretending it's different. Like it's literally just a small android box that can only run a single app, and if wanna run more than 1. Prepared to get harassed... Just call it what it is.

    • @TheCommanderTaco
      @TheCommanderTaco 7 дней назад

      Feel he said it best with going over the Marquis stuff " we want something that hasn't been done before".
      Asides from accepting criticism and having good PR. Humane at least has a reason to need their hardware to get the full experience ( assuming things worked as intended). You ( at least not yet) can't get a laser projection working from your phone, and as a wearable it should save you time without having to go through a screen, and if you need a screen for something lol.

  • @TempoFino
    @TempoFino 29 дней назад +470

    Remove the scroll wheel and enable the touch screen and it becomes a phone. 2024, start up reinvents the phone.

    • @hrdcpy
      @hrdcpy 28 дней назад +39

      That would have been a better plan. Market it as a hybrid dumb phone in the sense that it is not optimized for social media and content consumption yet could cover basic phone features.

    • @TempoFino
      @TempoFino 28 дней назад +4

      @@hrdcpy Even better, market it as a kids toy.

    • @murk959
      @murk959 28 дней назад

      That's a great idea
      Many people try to download minimalistic apps towards social media or add ad blockers where instead they could just have a phone without any pre-built apps and social media​
      Like the iPod for kids without the sim card option and without social media @@hrdcpy

    • @sp123
      @sp123 28 дней назад +13

      ​@@TempoFinoA $200 toy is a hard sell

    • @firstnamelastname2971
      @firstnamelastname2971 28 дней назад +4

      hardware gpt4 wrappers are wild

  • @blar2112
    @blar2112 21 день назад +63

    If your "device" functionality can be replicated with an app then you dont have a device, you have a gatekeeped app.

  • @TheLolz404
    @TheLolz404 29 дней назад +207

    I really hope people realize the company that didn't secure their own server endpoints probably is not good at protecting any of the data you are sending it.

    • @moamber1
      @moamber1 22 дня назад +6

      That's why we don't trust Google, Facebook, etc.

    • @dizzylilthing
      @dizzylilthing 2 дня назад

      to be fair, I just don't know what that is. I think people tend to forget there are a lot of us who just don't know these things. for the most part I just kind of have to have faith when I'm dealing with technology because I'm not going to understand what everything means. granted I never believed that this was at all realistic but even if I did and I tried to do my due diligence there's a good chance I wouldn't know to look for that. I don't know anything about steam or windows but I use them.

    • @TheLolz404
      @TheLolz404 2 дня назад

      ​@@moamber1 I do not trust Microsoft or Google but to function I have to utilize their services. As for Facebook Instagram and the other wonderful social media giants I have not had them for years. They are just ad machines. Choose wisely what you give your information to is the point.

  • @dstick14
    @dstick14 29 дней назад +99

    "Cloud Verification" === "Checking your user agent"

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 29 дней назад +22

      "R1" hardware == checking your device serial number for a thing that should have been an App

  • @slob5041
    @slob5041 29 дней назад +240

    Tony Fadell, the inventor of the iPod said in his book that he won't even look at the hardware of a startup until he's convinced it can't be done any other way.

    • @pikkyuukyuun4741
      @pikkyuukyuun4741 24 дня назад +8

      werent there plenty of options when it came to music players back then. seems like there were plenty of other ways. that quote kinda comes off snobbish ngl

    • @TimeLemur6
      @TimeLemur6 24 дня назад +17

      @@wojtek-33 Creative wasn't exactly a startup. I'm no Apple fan, but I think his point still stands; hardware startups are most likely in search of a problem.

    • @whydoineedagoogleplusaccou442
      @whydoineedagoogleplusaccou442 19 дней назад

      @@wojtek-33 that was a BS software patent on hierarchical menus on MP3 players. how else would you make an MP3 player UI?

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 6 дней назад

      @@pikkyuukyuun4741 apple isn't a startup though

  • @mx338
    @mx338 29 дней назад +109

    The same critique would still apply, if they built the Rabbit R1 on top of embedded Linux, or if they built "RabbitOS" from scratch entirely. It could still just be an Android App, there's no reason to create extra e-waste for this.

    • @bnorrish
      @bnorrish 28 дней назад +9

      But then you have to give Google all your codes...

    • @CorsaMaster
      @CorsaMaster 25 дней назад +2

      That's now how it works

    • @TriflingToad
      @TriflingToad 7 дней назад +2

      @@bnorrish what?

  • @28holes
    @28holes 9 дней назад +12

    After the recent Coffeezilla video exposing the "LAM AI" as just some ChatGPT scripts along with Playwright, an existing non-AI browser scripting tool, this looks even worse on their part. What a disaster.

  • @davidwhatever9041
    @davidwhatever9041 29 дней назад +63

    I had the misfortune of working for a manager who was very much like this CEO. He had a background in technical sales and was 'that' kind of salesman... you know the ones who only care about closing a sale... with not a care about whether what they sold is deliverable. Some people seem to constantly be recreating a reality that was good for them and then gaslighting everyone and themselves into believing it. The ones you mean in employment have amazing manipulation skills, seem to be shameless and incapable of learning from their mistakes....pp In the case of my manager, he had got the company to invest millions into an app, putting the business into serious financial problems, for an app that was a wrapper over opensource and barely better than a proof of concept prototype....
    the lessons i remembered from this, never work for a manager or a small company owned by someone with a sales background.... And most importantly buy anything from a business that engages in gaslighting marketing techniques like rabbit...

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 29 дней назад +13

      My life lesson is : never trust sales person, they're paid to lie.
      I only trust word that come from the engineers (whenever I buy product I try to find the engineering manuals for details or even talk to the engineers).

  • @LWatson
    @LWatson 28 дней назад +47

    “Hopping back and forward and suddenly the name rabbit makes sense” 😂😂

  • @hermitgreenn
    @hermitgreenn 9 дней назад +7

    The trend that really bothers me is people treating companies like they're their friends. "Oh it's okay it's their first product, give them some slack". NO. As a customer that bought a product that promises functionality you are in your right to expect that functionality.

  • @Illandren
    @Illandren 29 дней назад +51

    I've watched several of these kind of videos, but this is the one that made me cancel my order.

    • @daqwan
      @daqwan 21 день назад +1

      I've watched several of these kind of videos, but this is the one that made me regret my order. (Too late to cancel I already have it)

    • @jasonjennings8465
      @jasonjennings8465 21 день назад

      You can cancel orders? I am batch 6. Was still kind of excited, but this just really annoys me too much.

    • @daqwan
      @daqwan 20 дней назад

      @@jasonjennings8465 i mean i have my device I was batch 1

    • @daqwan
      @daqwan 20 дней назад

      it does work as a good toy for kids so my nieces' and nephews like it

    • @alexrogers777
      @alexrogers777 20 дней назад

      based

  • @SammyForReal
    @SammyForReal 29 дней назад +155

    About the first point. I think that people arent making fun of it because haha "funny crappy android app they are so bad" but because this whole device is useless and easily could have been a paid app in your phone. Especially considering all its weaknesses (like being not performant on this weak hardware), this whole idea of an extra device just seems pointless.
    Now, you made the example of e.g. your camera also running android. Or the human AI Pin. But for those two, I'd argue it does make sense having an extra device. Because they all have something your phone doesnt. E.g. an extra OP camera with a lens and such or an projector, etc.

    • @shamringo7438
      @shamringo7438 29 дней назад +29

      Exactly. The main problem is that the Rabbit app works with 100% compatibility with an Android phone. This is the reason the R1 is a laughing stock
      If your app requires specialized hardware (or unique enough that a phone doesn't have it) to get it working, then it doesn't matter even if it runs Android.
      Like an Android TV box, I can extract all the apks and install it on a phone. It will run, but the experience sucks because your phone doesn't have an HDMI port, nor does it come with a TV remote.
      By the way I just rolled my eyes with this LAM bullshit. I bet this is just some system message telling the AI what actions it can do, with the actions have to be manually coded in. Something the regular ChatGPT 4 can already do.

    • @LoneWanderer905
      @LoneWanderer905 29 дней назад +14

      Let's not forget the Rabbit also has terrible battery, and being an app, it would at least last as long as your phone.

    • @rigen97
      @rigen97 29 дней назад +1

      @@shamringo7438 The LAM was supposed to be like "universal API" to communicate with apps without modifying the apps themselves.

    • @shamringo7438
      @shamringo7438 29 дней назад +5

      @@rigen97 I highly doubt they are doing that at all. If they are doing this right now then why is it only right now limited to 4 “apps”?
      If it’s truly universal it should be able to use a lot more services than just those 4. Heck, it should be able to google search a timer to add a timer functionality. No, I strongly believe this is just some system message for GPT that triggers Spotify’s API, or Midjourney’s API, etc.

    • @rigen97
      @rigen97 29 дней назад +4

      @@shamringo7438 shrug, that's what they _wanted_ it to be. they clearly talk big. we knew from their past project that they knew how to make things sounds plausible and then just...not do it.

  • @sleepingcattv
    @sleepingcattv 29 дней назад +41

    I‘ve been following „AI“ developments for a while now and there were some really cool projects i tried. One i vividly remember was a project from Facebook Labs where it could take a single picture and make a 3D model from it. Impressive stuff!
    Nowadays every „AI“ is just the same API from OpenAI with a fancy skin on it. It’s disappointing and frustrating.
    With the Facebook Model thingy it was an actual engineer behind it who put his heart into the project. Actually when i posted the results i got from running his algorithm to twitter he liked my post pretty much right away.
    I want to see cool innovative projects like that again, not everyone packaging an API and calling it a day

    • @ten-faced-carrot
      @ten-faced-carrot 24 дня назад

      Yeah ikr? There's so many exciting things AI can do, contrary to what apparently everyone is thinking, AI doesn't mean to just get some text from ChatGPT lol

    • @justinwatson1510
      @justinwatson1510 22 дня назад +3

      Contrary to what is commonly repeated, capitalism doesn't reward innovation. If you want to see more passion projects, join a communist party and help build an economy that will give people enough free time to pursue their passion projects.

    • @sleepingcattv
      @sleepingcattv 21 день назад +2

      @@justinwatson1510 i mean yeah, you are right on that one. sadly there is no communist party in my country, and it doesn't seem we'll get a UBI any time soon

    • @shinyrayquaza9
      @shinyrayquaza9 9 дней назад +1

      I think the issue is big ceo man sees ai is the hip new trend and wants to hop on it but ooga booga spend money bad, use openAI

    • @deadturret4049
      @deadturret4049 День назад

      Facebook/Meta has been doing some crazy stuff with their computer vision tech tbh.

  • @throwaway3227
    @throwaway3227 28 дней назад +43

    Electron is not a good thing. Apps leaking a lot of memory (especially commit size, which is a huge issue on Windows), and separate runtimes with developers of each individual application being responsible for updates, which means that a vulnerability in Electron is a huge issue. This is a problem with browsers too, of course, but they are a lot better at pushing out updates when ACE vulnerabilities are found. This gets extra scary when people write chat applications, where you can push exploits without user interaction, and use Electron.
    /IT security specialist who is stuck on Windows and sick of having to pay for RAM sticks, just to literally be idle for "committed memory"

    • @john.darksoul
      @john.darksoul 25 дней назад +15

      Electron is one of the worst things that ever happened to desktop imo

    • @arnabbiswasalsodeep
      @arnabbiswasalsodeep 24 дня назад +4

      the only good thing ive ever found of electron without ever being in web development is that is for some home automation or game that has html, launching via electron is much easier.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 10 дней назад

      I have to wonder what apps people are using that do this, I've used a grand total of 3 electron-based apps and none if them leak like that.

    • @hgbugalou
      @hgbugalou 9 дней назад +1

      Agree. I hate electron. Its lazy development.

    • @Interpause
      @Interpause 7 дней назад +1

      what do yall think of tauri tho

  • @kwisatzsawyer
    @kwisatzsawyer 28 дней назад +13

    I suspect the real reasons for releasing the hardware and not the app is to:
    1. Get more money and hype from a physical AI device.
    2. Avoid paying 30% of subscriptions / usage fees once they have to pay for their clunky LAM system.

  • @adamsavard535
    @adamsavard535 29 дней назад +101

    CEO seems like they don't actually understand the tech and all they want is some sort of patent/to sell to some other company.

    • @No-you-are-wrong-stop-LARPing
      @No-you-are-wrong-stop-LARPing 29 дней назад

      The left creates nothing and understands nothing. Full on parasites.

    • @habilterserah4075
      @habilterserah4075 27 дней назад +2

      they sell nft too

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 25 дней назад +5

      They understand marketing. People get more invested in physical devices.

    • @neolordie
      @neolordie 22 дня назад +3

      That's actually a lot of companies business plan, build something that will get you bought up by one of the big tech corporations

  • @ProgrammeerMeneer
    @ProgrammeerMeneer 29 дней назад +23

    Good video! We managed to get the updated app working with valid details now, so yeah they still can't do proper server restriction and as long as they don't charge a subscription or completely revamp the os, there will always be ways around this.

  • @orbatos
    @orbatos 16 дней назад +8

    A correction. OS/2 was not an experimental joint project it was a multitasking operating system that also hosted Win 3.1 and DOS applications natively. While it did die off it was mostly due to cost as you were also buying a Windows licence. After 4 major versions it saw lots of use on non-consumer systems where stability was important.

    • @theodorgiosan2570
      @theodorgiosan2570 5 дней назад +1

      Still even sees use today. I encountered POS systems using it in 2016 which are probably still running today and now I see industrial machinery running it in 2024. But of course I see industrial machinery running CP/M in 2024 as well so there's tons of old stuff out there. Somewhere in one of the stairwells of my father's old office building, on the 5th floor, there is an Altair 8800 running a rooftop weather station that has been operational since the 1970s (the campus has its own power plant and is not on grid power, so the 8800 has presumably been running since the 1970s).

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 29 дней назад +40

    There is no shame in using AOSP for the underlying architecture for your new product. It has software for the screen, wireless connections, touch...why bother reinventing the wheel?

    • @iuse9646
      @iuse9646 29 дней назад

      Agreed

    • @pierrotA
      @pierrotA 29 дней назад +15

      Then why reinventing the smartphone ?
      I think it's the point of the video: if it run on Android, on a cubic object with a touchscreen, then why not make an app ?

    • @mojoxide
      @mojoxide День назад

      Yup, that’s exactly what he says in the video.

  • @bpadres
    @bpadres 26 дней назад +13

    When I saw this video on Sunday, I immediately submitted for an RMA to return my Rabbit R1. I received a response Monday morning stating: "Your email is important to us, and we want to ensure that we address your inquiry promptly. Our team is working diligently to provide you with the assistance you need." ... As of late Wednesday, no RMA or any other information has been provided. IMO it should not take longer than 24 hours to provide an RMA to return a device. It will be interesting to see how long it takes or if I will get one at all.

    • @bpadres
      @bpadres 25 дней назад

      This gets deep. In 2018 Bidu and Teenage Engineering released a similar project with Jesse Lyu (working at Bidu). Look up The Raven H. It’s a real thing!

    • @Josh1EWawa
      @Josh1EWawa 6 дней назад +1

      Any updates?

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. 29 дней назад +34

    More proof (Elizabeth Holmes, Web3, NFTs, anyone) that scammers have strong sway over investors.

    • @adamrak7560
      @adamrak7560 29 дней назад

      - technology gets genuinely hyped (computers, internet, lab-on-chip, crypto, AI)
      - scammers arrive first, (because it is the easiest to pivot if you are not actually doing anything useful)
      - we are swimming in poop and can barely see the actual real good products
      This cycle is so bad for crypto that I literally cannot name anything that is not somehow scammy.
      Elizabeth Holmes made lab-on-chip infamous, but never actually (mis)used the technology.
      AI scams are just beginning, at least there are some products which are usable, we should mentally prepare for a big avalanche of AI scams.

    • @sws212
      @sws212 25 дней назад

      Nah, Holmes at least wanted to make something that benefited people, her screw up was when she doubled down instead of just shutting the company down when research doesn't pan out like the rest of healthcare / biotech start ups. Web3 and NFTs are just morons chasing trends against business fundamentals, it's the same nonsense as the Dotcom bust when people buy internet stocks even if the companies had nothing to do with the internet.

  • @jannikmeissner
    @jannikmeissner 29 дней назад +14

    Thanks for the video… Personally I got into deep learning 11 years ago, focusing a huge part of my life on solving really hard engineering problems, and it is unfathomable how many low effort grifts these days seem to be showered in VC money…

  • @skull7083
    @skull7083 29 дней назад +13

    I do understand why they went the hardware route as yes, an app can't lock people in for apple or google to replace with their own. But it's just a bad idea especially if it's that fragile it should have never been considered to be made

  • @user-xj5gz7ln3q
    @user-xj5gz7ln3q 29 дней назад +17

    Their comment section is turned off. That's telling.

  • @userre85
    @userre85 29 дней назад +46

    These devices are getting more attention than they should. Didn't we learn anything from the NFT era?

    • @Gestersmek
      @Gestersmek 29 дней назад +9

      I don't know what is to be learned. NFTs were relentlessly mocked as well and now they're all worthless.

  • @hermdude
    @hermdude 29 дней назад +32

    Jesse's reply sounds like chatGPT, just that he made all of it lowercase so that it "looks" like it's not, together with the "its" and "it's" mistypes.

    • @mjdevlog
      @mjdevlog 26 дней назад +2

      lmao yeah. Weird af if he types on his phone but the auto capitalize didn't turned on.

  • @thomassynths
    @thomassynths 29 дней назад +20

    Just to be clear: Jessie is a board member of Teenage Engineering. So when you say "its nice that they didn't try to make their own sht hardware", that doesn't actually hold much weight.

    • @theorants
      @theorants  29 дней назад +12

      Wait what?? This is news to me, ty for sharing

    • @everyhandletaken
      @everyhandletaken 28 дней назад

      @@theorants "SANTA MONICA, Calif.-(BUSINESS WIRE)-Today, Santa Monica-based AI startup rabbit inc. has announced the appointment of Jesper Kouthoofd, founder of teenage engineering, as Chief Design Officer at rabbit. Together with rabbit founder and CEO Jesse Lyu, Kouthoofd will guide the future product design for rabbit while maintaining his roles as head of design / CEO at teenage engineering.
      Lyu and Kouthoofd first met more than 10 years ago and immediately connected over their shared passion for synthesizers, music and product design. Their collaboration officially began when Lyu’s previous company, Raven Tech, engaged teenage engineering to help design award-winning products like the Raven H and Raven R speakers. Lyu joined the board of directors of teenage engineering in 2020 and continues to serve in that role."

  • @AminaFilms
    @AminaFilms 29 дней назад +5

    I want this AI thing to turn into the pin from star trek but Im guessing Ill never get that in my lifetime.

  • @meta7gear
    @meta7gear 25 дней назад +5

    Honestly if what comes from these junk AI in a box devices is Apple pulling their finger out and making Siri decent then it will have been a positive in the end.

  • @bitman32x
    @bitman32x 8 дней назад

    This is the first time I came your channel and by accident, I really like the way you deliver your content, unrated and straight to the point talk. Now I'm subscribing and eagerly waiting for new content from you.

  • @SinisterSpatula
    @SinisterSpatula 29 дней назад +5

    Canceled my preorder, I agree, this needs to be an app and not a dedicated hardware device. One in which I have to carry, and keep charged, etc. This combined with their shitty behavior, I am done.

    • @MartinDlabaja
      @MartinDlabaja 21 день назад

      Its called ChatGPT, it does everything Rabbit does

  • @IRWBRW964
    @IRWBRW964 29 дней назад +6

    You forgot to mention that the LAM is not currently used for the 4 apps. It's a research model that they intend to use in the future.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 29 дней назад +2

      because it doesn't exist probably ?
      "for future use", yeah, sure, meanwhile lets use OpenAI chatbot version 3

  • @euanmeston
    @euanmeston 26 дней назад +2

    I work at a robotics automation scale-up and one of the best things we did was move away from manufacturing our own hardware product. The sheer monetary and personnel overhead required to start manufacturing even the simplest product, heavily outweighs the margins on selling the product itself. I could speak at length on those tweets from the CEO but this is a comments section and nobody actually cares.
    This is a CEO that has been sold a dream by a Product Manager that doesn't own a smartphone.

  • @Belgabor
    @Belgabor 29 дней назад +4

    The thing that had me worried pretty much right from the start is when Marques mentioned there is no subscription in contrast to the Humane Pin. Given that AI has running costs, how can that ever be a sustainable business model if you're not one of the big ones and this is just a side project?

  • @Palmtop_User
    @Palmtop_User 4 дня назад +1

    I have seen your face in my feed a few times and i expected a gruff, JJJ like voice. I did not expect your voice to be so gentle

  • @VXFluff
    @VXFluff 7 дней назад +2

    I just realized something...
    The Rabbit R1 is made by Teenage Engineering... So it makes sense that a teenager reverse engineered it lmfao

  • @memetech-
    @memetech- 3 дня назад +2

    The problem is not the fact that it is an Android phone, it's that they act like it isn't

  • @andyhu9542
    @andyhu9542 27 дней назад +3

    I want to rephrase the first point here: An App is hard to build but easy to copy. To make a good App you need two versions and maintaining both well is a challenging task, as stated. But your competitor can make a crappy App and claim to do everything you can do and undercut you in price to a point that users are not trying your App anymore. They would get the competitor App, have a bad experience and go, 'well, that's bad, why should I spend even more money giving this other one a shot?' Result: in the end, your great idea fails and the bad actor gets more money out of it than you.

  • @NateBear
    @NateBear 5 дней назад +1

    Calling it cringe hits so much harder than simply calling it a bad product.

  • @MarcCastellsBallesta
    @MarcCastellsBallesta 3 дня назад +1

    I'm not a genius. I will never develop a genius device, nor a genius app.
    That's why I don't seel genius promises to other people.
    People nowadays should:
    a) Accept their limitations
    b) Take responsibility for their actions
    c) Be held accountable for their mistakes
    Scamming people shouldn't be so easy.

  • @hrdcpy
    @hrdcpy 28 дней назад

    This video and Emily's Twitter thread will be the script for all the tech explainer channels. I can hear Logically Answered rn.

  • @naturegoggle
    @naturegoggle 24 дня назад +2

    Love these spicy rants 😆💕

  • @memetech-
    @memetech- 3 дня назад +1

    LAM is actually the same functionality OpenAI has had for a long time

  • @king5327
    @king5327 16 дней назад +1

    This man does not remember the days of the flashlight app setting your brightness to max and filling your screen with white because hardware flashlights didn't exist back then.

  • @joe_ferreira
    @joe_ferreira 29 дней назад +1

    Basically they want to become a if this then that alternative with a voice assistant frontend. You can do the same thing with node red.

  • @allegrostein
    @allegrostein 29 дней назад +4

    What if the old type of software development is still followed, first build is the final build🤔

  • @FluffyAngelUwU
    @FluffyAngelUwU 3 дня назад +1

    The issue isn't that it is an androip app, is that it could have been android app with no issues

  • @IDNHANTU2day
    @IDNHANTU2day 2 дня назад +1

    I hope someone starts a Class Action Law suit.

  • @ustav_o
    @ustav_o 29 дней назад

    what a nice video. maybe you could try making video from some stuff that happened on the past that you find interesting (like the os2)

  • @trajectoryunown
    @trajectoryunown 4 дня назад

    Wow, that response from the Humane guy makes me want to learn more about their products.

  • @webjoeking
    @webjoeking 29 дней назад +2

    Is there a case for Rabbit “OS” to be able to access lower level functions that Android OS doesn’t permit?

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 29 дней назад +1

      there's only one reason : accessing the serial number of the hardware for the purpose of doing license validation, so you can sell a service that should cost $5/mo for hundreds of dollars.
      no other "lower level" function would ever be needed for anything, they're not running the models locally anyway to ever have any custom hardware for the solution.
      and on Android you literally don't need lower level access to anything, everything on Android is done by IPC, you only need the adequate permissions, unless you're trying to diverge audio from the RLINK API used by the "phone app" that runs the telephony service, there's no reason for ever need lower level access.

  • @_Neopolitan
    @_Neopolitan 29 дней назад +2

    Although AI is incredibly useful, everyone is so focused around making it a product they can make money off of, rather than making a tool that can actually better society and vast amounts of work force, there is only so much an any form of AI can do, at some point down the line, a human is going to have to be overseeing everything.

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith 10 дней назад +1

    I'm impressed they've managed to jank their way to getting GPT-4 to talk to a back end on a remote device. But due to the nature of prompt engineering with extremely large LLMs like GPT, the moment OpenAI moves on to GPT-4.5 or whatever, it's going to break possibly forever. Worse, they implied the reason the Rabbit r1 even needed a dedicated device was to make use of a Qualcomm chip with it's own tensor processing unit to run some component of their app locally, which now the specs and app are out there and working on other devices, was obviously a lie.
    Worse still, the hardware there is about $80/device, after losses on shipping, tax, and etcetera, there's maybe $25 of income left on their end, how are they paying the fees for GPT-4 access for more than a year for every one of these little Android doodads? I smell an incoming rug pull again.

  • @phdonme1
    @phdonme1 21 день назад +2

    I saw some dude hyping this up a couple weeks before it came out.
    And immediately I thought this is going to fail
    Google lens is a far superior product
    And it's free

  • @Kane0123
    @Kane0123 29 дней назад +2

    So they have a public endpoint which was publicly accessible but if you interact with it you’re breaking rules.
    Can I sue WebScrapers for even landing on my website? Did they accidentally find the infinite money glitch?

  • @luckylanno
    @luckylanno 29 дней назад +1

    The CEO should've said "AI will change the way humans will use computers. The rabbit is that change."

  • @hereallyfast
    @hereallyfast 24 дня назад +1

    There's a RUclips short that makes fun of the phrase, "Think about it". I can't believe I saw it in real life.

  • @benmeehan1968
    @benmeehan1968 29 дней назад +2

    The business model is so clearly unsustainable, it's either a ruse to make some short term profit on the hardware, or it's a bait-and-switch exercise. The problem is that there are investors happy to look past this just to be in the AI space. Welcome to the next generation Dot Com bubble.

  • @TempoFino
    @TempoFino 29 дней назад +2

    This should be on your main channel!

  • @theodorgiosan2570
    @theodorgiosan2570 5 дней назад

    OS/2 did become a thing, just not for personal computers. I had to work on store POS systems running OS/2 as late as 2016. Now I still encounter industrial machinery running OS/2 in 2024. So there were some niche applications some of which are running to this day.

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 18 дней назад +2

    3:48 Well, I have used that fact to customize my user experience on my Samsung Galaxy A5. I use Taskbar as my home screen and GBoard as my keyboard.

  • @ttrev007
    @ttrev007 29 дней назад

    the first thing i thought when i saw the Rabbit was 'this should be an app' and then 'i don't want more crap in my pocket'. You have to have a REALLY IMPORTANT use case to create more junk for my pocket. having to put more crap in my pocket and remember to charge it is just not worth it. This should have been a an app or i can live without it just to avoid the clutter.

  • @randomperson-nq7nk
    @randomperson-nq7nk 23 дня назад +1

    there is still a subdomain from their old website that is still accessible I commented it but i think youtube took it down

  • @eggymens
    @eggymens 7 дней назад

    i absolutely would have shamed them for that... but given you clearly know more than me, and you explained it so well yeah it makes sense. excited to watch the rest and see the stuff actually worth making fun off in the rest of the vid.

  • @monad_tcp
    @monad_tcp 29 дней назад +2

    15:45 he created the design of a mug ? or the color of nail polish the guy is using ? I don't get it
    the mug is cool thou

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 10 дней назад

      I think it's supposed to be the stack of colored squares. Kinda fugly ngl, but I don't like their company's design aesthetic anyway so... 🤷

  • @LWatson
    @LWatson 28 дней назад +1

    Tbh the thing with it being android based is just funny and kinda ironic *because* everyone has been saying for a while that these AI hardware devices could just be an app. It’s not that surprising it’s built off base android. Then bundled with the fact the app they built is actually (to an extent) compatible with android phones with not too much tweaking - is also pretty funny.

  • @HoopyAmero
    @HoopyAmero 7 дней назад

    that flashlight he was referring to was literally a white screen with the brightness on max. Because the first iPhone didn't have a flash led on the phone to function as a flashlight!

  • @user-tz6nn8iw9m
    @user-tz6nn8iw9m 29 дней назад +1

    His way of selling reminds me of the CEO of Vercel selling edge serverless

  • @SimonDevScr
    @SimonDevScr 16 дней назад +1

    0:47 Wait, what was that pop up? It is like an extension or something?

  • @TheGuillotineKing
    @TheGuillotineKing 29 дней назад +1

    Fun Fact it had to be hardware because anyone can make that a app and they would have no moat around them so they made it hardware because you can't compete with them

  • @R-A-W
    @R-A-W 29 дней назад

    what is the app your using to have all your tabs it looks good, is it a twitch app
    Also the only reason they can Patient something is if they have a user press a button (at least here in Australia) You can't patient software code that has no user input.

    • @digitalnorth
      @digitalnorth 25 дней назад

      @R-A-W if you are asking about the browser its called Arc Browser by The browser company Its really good

  • @ToniMorton
    @ToniMorton 5 дней назад

    they didn't want to make an app because they knew how badly they would be roasted for it and likely would also have been denied from appstores for data collection policies

  • @brodo9919
    @brodo9919 29 дней назад

    has anyone seen the "quarterly update" video they just posted? I cringed so hard about the cross device Spotify part, they are showing the "change track from my rabbit while playing on pc" as it is their functionality lol

  • @404maxnotfound
    @404maxnotfound 29 дней назад +1

    That Jesse Lyu thread is basically: "if we me make it an app no investor or customer will pay us an insane amount of money and we don't want that. Of course that's bad to admit outloud that it's basically a scam so here's a bunch of barely thought out excuses."

  • @LuisMan123
    @LuisMan123 28 дней назад

    the thing is, if they put in a tiny bit of work this could 100% run on Android without root etc. they could use a lockscreen overlay to bypass the default android UI, and could make the app work as an assistant app so holding the power button would work like the push to talk button, and they could use the "write system settings" permission to toggle stuff like wifi Bluetooth yada yada
    all with no native hardware, but then the problem would be that no one would pay 200$ for an app that restricts your phone and is essentially just gpt on your lockscreen

  • @loganmedia1142
    @loganmedia1142 13 дней назад

    A typical example is that when I make an online purchase with my credit card I get a notification from my bank requiring me to approve it, then I get a notification from the online store which arrives through the mail app, and finally I get another notification from my bank that the amount has been charged to my card.
    What I find even more ridiculous is that this bespoke device of theirs is so expensive for what amounts to a very crippled phone. I can buy a decent Android phone for $200.
    I think his English is so bad because he's actually from China and it appears his funding has primarily come from Chinese investors. He wouldn't be the first to bamboozle venture capitalists though.
    OS/2 Warp 3 and 4 were actually really good.

  • @mielole
    @mielole 7 дней назад

    At 14:49 the "even if we built RabbitOS as an app..." is discussed. Theo reacts to it by giving an Uber example. To be fair to Jesse, he has a point. He's basically saying: "If RabbitR1 was an app, rather than a separate minimalist hardware product, the experience would be way worse, as in comparable to Siri". What he means is that as an app, you would have to launch it, be interrupted by the notifications from other apps on your phone, etc. He's arguing that by giving you a hardware thing without notifications the UX is better as the assistant could be immediately available and not get its volume reduced every time a notification comes in etc, distracting you from the assistant / intended UX.
    All other points made by Theo are valid, just being fair to Jesse here

  • @Ezra411st
    @Ezra411st 17 дней назад +1

    Yea I don't use the Default Samsung Keyboard app but I use the Google Gboard one that I can change the background and have translate on it by default, and I don't use the default background app but a different one

    • @theairacobra
      @theairacobra 7 дней назад

      use openboard, it's like gboard but less spooky and googleified

  • @slabriprock5329
    @slabriprock5329 19 дней назад

    Everyone needs to see this!

  • @hldfgjsjbd
    @hldfgjsjbd 29 дней назад +23

    Petition to consider word “cringe” as cringe

    • @arcuscerebellumus8797
      @arcuscerebellumus8797 29 дней назад +3

      Petition to consider a petition to consider word "cringe" as cringe as cringe superior in magnitude to using the word "cringe".

    • @hldfgjsjbd
      @hldfgjsjbd 29 дней назад

      @@arcuscerebellumus8797 congratulations, currently you are number 1 in cringe competition

    • @arcuscerebellumus8797
      @arcuscerebellumus8797 29 дней назад

      @@hldfgjsjbd 1 of?

    • @dbluare
      @dbluare 28 дней назад +2

      Cringe much?

    • @arcuscerebellumus8797
      @arcuscerebellumus8797 28 дней назад +1

      @@dbluare much cringe, very good.

  • @unruler
    @unruler 10 дней назад +1

    Obviously both of these "AI in a box" projects are a way to make a quick buck on AI hype. They don't need to be a separate hardware, but if they release as an app they would have to compete with millions of other apps and they just would get overshadowed by Siri or Google voice assistant. And they know that they don't have anything worth of value to offer with their service, because the app model is more sustainable in a long run and if they were confident in their service they would release it in as many forms as possible (like app, web, PC client program, etc) like any other big service does.

  • @Zelda00Gamer
    @Zelda00Gamer 5 дней назад

    They really should’ve pushed this device as an educational toy for kids. It solves all the problems. Kids don’t (shouldn’t!) have phones. Kids ask a TON of questions which seems to be the only thing this thing can do. It can also scan random objects and say what they are which kids would find fun. Heck you could go on a hike and have the kid scan a bunch of plants. Will it always be right? Probably not since plant scanning isn’t even great on phones (I’m a plant addict) but it’s still fun!
    Now $200 for a kids toy is insane BUT it’s the only way to solve the “it’s just a worse phone” issue

  • @Hypergraph
    @Hypergraph 29 дней назад

    thats it. i was looking to alternative ways to spend my money. thanks !

  • @404maxnotfound
    @404maxnotfound 29 дней назад

    Its wild they are admiting it's AOSP and then in the same breath claiming they invented and entire OS.

  • @jessthnthree
    @jessthnthree 25 дней назад

    I hate that companies rushing this kind of slop to market are directly leading to people not taking AI seriously

  • @3monsterbeast
    @3monsterbeast 24 дня назад

    Can't wait for next year when this founder is caught just using a bunch of conditionals in the codebase

  • @zvnavv3w5
    @zvnavv3w5 День назад

    Uh, it seems really concerning that they would have such explicit legal copy on security related concerns involving their API... Like, they are clearly prepared for (and likely experiencing) remote command execution on the endpoints processing the users' browser requests... Big yikes.

  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 28 дней назад

    Rabbit R1 & the Humane AI Pin are pre-Beta/Alpha products sold for full price.

  • @madebyjonny7637
    @madebyjonny7637 29 дней назад

    I wasn't sure if this was real, but the source code (that i saw) seemed to point at them using playwright for they "action model".

  • @Pekz00r
    @Pekz00r 29 дней назад

    Great video! I was pretty sure both those products would be pretty useless, especially the first versions, and in particular on first launch. This with Rabbit is a complete mess on a whole different level. It feels like the NFT hype all over again and there will be some tricksters making a lot of money before it collapses.
    The idea of LAMs is pretty good and interesting, but they need to be comparable to a human assistant to be actually useful. They are from that now.

  • @Tobi-ci3ns
    @Tobi-ci3ns 29 дней назад

    I didn't realize the design was Teenage Engineering. From the very first time I saw it, the only good thing I had to say about the rabbit was that it had great industrial design. I think anyone who's ever actually used AI would have known how useless this would be as a complete product just from the concept alone.

  • @fluffycritter
    @fluffycritter 22 дня назад +19

    The original iPhone didn't even have a flash that could be used as a flashlight - the original flashlight app just turned the screen white. Which you could do with the web browser.

    • @Houshalter
      @Houshalter 7 дней назад +2

      IIRC it was also spyware.

  • @jack_lion
    @jack_lion 12 дней назад +1

    Teenage engineerings not that great either. I bought an OP1 when it was at 1400. A year later it would not power on. I was quoted 800 for a repair and upon inspecting it myself and reseating the connections I couldn’t identify any obvious problems. They make overpriced trash in my opinion.

  • @oceansi
    @oceansi 22 дня назад

    I believe Rabbit r1's biggest mistake was that they didn't know how to market their product because they kept focusing on showing the benefits of the software, and it ended up in the hands of tech reviewers who started roasting it as an Android app, wondering why I would buy a device designed for an app when I could install it on your phone. That's a reasonable point, but why would I need a watch when I can see the time on my phone? They may be better off presenting their product as a luxury item that blends the beauty of Teenage Engineering designs with the power of having an AI agent right in your pocket.

  • @sammcdonald1975
    @sammcdonald1975 28 дней назад

    Great video. Thanks