Do You Know Your Five Pentatonic Boxes?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- With My Blues Master Classes Coming Soon, I have to make sure we all know our Five Pentatonic Forms and Where Certain Root Notes are. For your FREE chart, please click here stichmethod.co...
In Case you are not familiar with my chancel, reference My NeverLost Pentatonic. It can be found here • The NeverLost Pentaton... It helps connect these shapes with fluidity and ease. The numbers on the chart are the usual fingers to practice. 1 is index, 2 is middle, 3 is Ring and 4 is pinky.
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With My Blues Master Classes Coming Soon, I have to make sure we all know our Five Pentatonic Forms and Where Certain Root Notes are. For your FREE chart, please click here stichmethod.com/5-forms
My beard need to be trim haha I know that feeling
I think in the chart form #3 the B and high E notes should be 2's not 1's. Thanks!
Thanks I have seen them, and merge them in one single chart. Thanks Chief!
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I’ve made more progress by binging on your videos for the last month than I have in the last 20yrs of off and on playing.
Thank you so much!
You're not the only one!! I wish I would have found these videos years ago!
Ian! Ricky from Whole Foods. Great stuff, brother.
You have a way of explaining things on the guitar that is so clear and to the point. Seriously, you are up there with Govan and Gilbert in terms of teaching ability. Thanks for making these videos.
Officially starting here as home base. Self-taught, been noodling around the same stale lack of knowledge since I was 16...always afraid of any theory...learned just enough over the years to be frustrated as dream of beautiful melodies and progressions but didn't know the language to express them. Sounds like a few people have echoed the same feelings, but have already had more ah-ha moments watching a few of your videos during quarantine that I have over a couple of decades. Thank you Stitch....!
Form I 1:16
Form II 2:06
Form III 4:45
Form IV 6:45
Form V 8:08
Did you mean 3:06?
I just wanted to say your the man. I'm a huge fan of Phish and the dead and when I stumbled across your channel I couldn't have been more excited. The couple months I've been watching you my soloing has drastically improved using your neverlost system. Keep up the good work my phriend.
I memorized the 5 basic boxes decades ago and continue to use them as practice warm ups starting in different keys etc. I could never find a way to utilize #3 in my ad lib solos always jumping from 1- 2 then up to# 5. Thanks to you, I think that with some additional practice I can expand my solo vocabulary. I have played in cover bar bands for years and continue to do so. My thanks for your videos.
Awesome lesson as always. A nice way to remember min/maj root note positions is that if you descend the pentatonic shape, the maj root note is always the note after the min root note ie the next note in the pentatonic shape
I practiced these ad naseum, until I had it down. The book I originally learned the patterns from didn't call them "Form 1" and so on, it was "C shape" (which is form 4) . Your never-lost really helped. Now if I could just understand "phrasing." You and Sean are great teachers, I'm looking forward to your Blues classes.
I am seeing the light slowly. Confused by the comment that C shape is form 4. Seems to me it is form 3. What am I missing?
Thanks for the NEVER LOST system! Clears the fret board without confusion.
Suggestions for the PDF;
1.) show all the minor and major roots/homes (not just the first which occur)
2.) add an image which shows the forms "stacked" together (preferably with the individual forms indicated)
3.) add an image of the "circle of fifths" to clarify the relationship of the different keys/names of the minor and it's related major
I'm not complaining, just trying to be helpful. Thanks for all you do! ;)
John, I agree. Also on the PDF I am confused at to which fret these forms are played for a given key.
Somebody drinking the beard tonic!, great lesson stitch thanks
I learned mine by learning licks that I liked the sound of that happened to move around the different positions. It's pretty much how I learned everything I know.
Before watching this video, I thought that music is like an art, where you were born with it or you were not. But my understanding start to change. I start to believe that actually there is some logic and systematic in it. Thus with good method we can learn if we dedicate our time, attention and most of all our passion.
Thanks from Indonesia.
It's one thing to know things and another to understand what you think you know. Your videos have led me to a clear understanding of the pentatonic scales. Thanks!
So glad the ant poison didn't kill you! This lesson made a ton of random stuff I have been working on all make sense... You are a great teacher...
One subscription from my side bro...i challenge that the one who seriously wants to learn solo cant escape from subscribing your channel...good job and keep coaching us...👍
This guy has learned me so much and made it look simple
You are an awesome guitar teacher. Your lesson are packed full of good information. And you are great to listen to cause you keep it so interesting by going completely off the subject sometimes. I like that. Let me know when you have your blues coarse out!!
Been looking at your stuff. Downloaded your package. But this is what I needed!! I have gotten some stuff on the 5 shapes from different sources, but this brought it all together and now I get the minor major stuff...I think :)
This is what I have been looking for!!! Stitch, you rock. Thank you man. ❤️
I have come full cycle of procrastination again, also nice video really well explained
Everyone who plays guitar should know this.
Stich, you're the man, brother. Thank you for all you do. I once was lost, but now I'm found... or at least much closer than I was before. my other teacher, yes, you're my teacher, charges me a butt load and mostly just talks at me. I love nearly the neverlost stich method. When will the master blues class be available?? BLessings. Thanks again. I'm learning this language now and not lost in muck and the mire anymore because of your brilliant teaching skills. appreciate cha.
Ian, (I think.. I apologize if I'm wrong) these lessons have helped me a tremendous amount. I'm not unfamiliar with rythym guitar and folk style picking. Always been a dead head and loved the improv style leads. I've tried many times, and quit many times. You've made this information extremely accessible, I do not use PayPal.. But I would like to donate something to you in turn. That's how useful this has been to me. A month of daily practice based on these videos and I feel very confident in jamming on the spot. You need be compensated for that. If there is an alternate method of donation please reach out. Thank you so much.
Awesome video and thank you for sharing ❤❤👍👍
I actually love position 5. It's way underrated!
Thanks jack black
Wow.... Just had a huge "light bulb" moment. You're a great teacher man, AMAZING LESSON
I've been playing for ions. I use parts of all these pentatonic forms, but there's parts of them that I sorta don't venture into. The fan blade, hub analogy is perfect. This instantly made sense to me. Now I'm going back to each of these forms that I'm not totally familiar with and familiarizing myself with them. Thanks man, it's refreshing to see guitar teacher that's teaching others to create which is absolutely the best part of playing guitar.
this lesson helped me so much in my practicing 🖤
Awesome to hear!
Thanks for all your help bro cheers Brian Ireland 🇮🇪
Thank you so much for splitting the boxes up. I have found the overlaying charts so hard to follow
I just starting playing the guitar and realized the pentatonic boxes are all built on the same two shapes based on the root chord. Either a C shape or an A shape depending on your root note and if you are going up/down left/right. The only caveat is that once you hit the B string, you move the fretting by a half step. I think thats similar to what you are conveying
Stich is in my top 5 theory guitar teachers
Awesome video. It helped me a lot, thanx.
Shout out all the way from South Africa!!!!!!
Thanks Stich. Your teaching style is good. Just came across this video.
THANK YOU STITCH!!!! Looking forward to watching this Lesson. Want to learn all I can about the Pentatonic Scales😀 (This is all New to me). Thanks!!! [Printing the chart! Thanks so much!!!]
THANK YOU! =This lesson REALLY opened my eyes and opened the ENTIRE fretboard for me!
Really great stuff. Well presented, concise, and easy to grasp. Most of all, thanks for not ending every single phrase with that annoying, obligatory vibrato like so many of your competitors.
Love your videos. I felt this one was kind of rushed. Always pack full of information but it felt crunched together. Rock on Stitch!
Thanks for that, I always forget how 4 and 5 go hehe, and your explanation is always the best
6:16......hilarious..."my beard needs to be trimmed"....you rule, man!
You rock Bro! Thank you very much for free lessons. Your the instructor I've viewed on RUclips that knows what your teaching and doesn't leave out the vital parts in an attempt to get you buy something
Thanks a lot that just made something click for me.
Thanks for this video it help much😊
Yes! Finally a lesson about the different forms! You keep cranking out good stuff. Much appreciated. Something to consider...a view of the 5 forms from an entire fretboard perspective. Maybe that's part of the Blues Master Class?
Forget my suggest about fretboard view. Just bought the Neverlost PDF. Exactly what I was looking for. Rock On
never knew the five shapes,gonna have to study this more but thank you so much!!!
Nice lesson Stitch, I now understand this stuff better. Thanks
Hey Stitch. Thanks so much for the time you take to do these videos. I'm back into playing for a little over a year now after taking a LONG time off due to life issues.. Anyway, I always knew that first Pentatonic shape (and a small part of the second) but now, partially from your awesome videos, I can strongly say I have all 5 "boxes" down very firmly now. It's coming together in terms of how each "box" interacts with the box above and below it. I still struggle with "sounding" like I am playing blues. I can put a backing track on and play thru all 5 boxes, moving up and down, but I am still not really "hearing" that "blues" sound. I am understanding, in theory, the 3rds and 5ths but I still can't pull it all together into that cool "blues sound". Love to see you do a lesson on putting that all together into blues sounding riffs. I am close, but not quite putting it together. Thanks man!!
Sweet !! Looking forward to it. Thanks again for all you do with these videos.
Hi! just found your site today, already subscribed, again, THANK U THANK U THANK U FOR BEING SO DAMN ARTICULATE!!!! FINALLY!!!!!! Peace&Love out 2 U
Beat me to it Lawrence! But that aside going to be another informative and eye opening lesson!
Ali only just beat u and yes great lessons
Oh, it did! Thanks again man and keep up the great work!
Hey people this might seem like a regular crappy pentatonic lesson, but trust me this guy is fucking amazing! As soon as I finished his free shit on RUclips I will happily buy this dudes masterclss. This guy is THE BADASS guitar teacher. Full stop.
Thanks again😀
Another most excellent lesson, will be anticipating the master blues course you are working on. Keep on rockin!
Thank you 😊
I've been staring at the chart this morning. I a numbers kind of guy and noticed some patterns; don't know how valuable this is practically speaking, but I'm going to toss it out there in case it's of use to anyone.
First, the patterns emerge best if you consider only the low five strings. The high E is just sort of a "shadow copy" of the low E - those are always the same in all patterns. So for the rest of these points just sort of forget about the high E.
Form 1 has the root on the lowest fret of the lowest string, and gives us our fundamental pattern, Form 1.
Now imagine rotating the five strings to the right. The B string rotates around to the low E string (and remember the high E is just a copy of that). That leads us directly to Form 4; just remember that you have to shift down a fret when moving from the G string to the B string.
Rotating again leads us directly to Form 2. Once again, raise by a fret when shifting from G to B.
Rotating again leads directly to Form 5. The low fret of the G string isn't colored red, but that's just because he's only made the lowest root note red - that low G string fret is an octave up from fret 4 of the E string.
Finally, one more rotation leads to Form 3. For this one we want the root on the B string, so it starts one fret higher on the neck than the others because of that usual shift.
So this explains why there are five forms - there are only five "unique" strings (since high E is a copy of low E), so we get a form for having the root on the lowest played fret of each string. But they're really all just "string rotations" of one another.
Also, we can see WHY our guitars have the 4-fret difference between the G and B strings, instead of the "normal" five fret difference. Five unique strings, five frets each gives us a total range of 25 semitones. But two octaves only has 24 semitones, so including that one string-to-string shift of only four frets instead of five reduces our total to 24, as it needs to be.
Like I said, I don't know if this is worth anything, but I think it's going to help me along since it provides a relationship amongst the forms and makes them seem less "arbitrary" to me. Instead of just being things given to us, I see more fully now how they relate to one another.
I've never tried scales at all and have also peaked at the level of "never being able to play solos" as I'm sure many self taught also are at. I'm gonna change that so I can start to learn more technical stuff with the proper techniques (aka petrucci level technical)
thank you Ian,i've probably lernt more in the last few weeks than in the previous 20 odd years. regards dave.
🤓man you are the best teacher bar none thanks a lot for simplifying so much for me I love you man
Nothing new but well explained! I was waiting for that kind of topic because you mentioned earlier, that you are going to tell us when, in your opinion, to use the whole shapes.
Greets, Manuel
Sorry to be thick here Ian but I agree with Dan Daniels comment - your charts and the fret relationships have me completely confused and I do know the minor/major forms, but obviously in some other universe. I want to make sure there aren't any holes in my understanding of your reasoning. I have been able to following everything else I've seen you do. Thanks for your efforts.
EDIT: Ok, I ran through it a couple more times. You are just showing forms (not all progressing through the same key) and their relative roots. I have always seen them represented in a progression through one key. Your emphasis is on the minor/major root positions in each of their forms. Thanks, you have exposed a big weakness in my use of the pent forms. Thanks again, I have some work to do. TW
I actually have a printout of the 5 pentatonic scales taped on my wall. I haven't moved beyond that because I don't know what I would use them for. Here is a description of my playing - rhythm guitar, singing, mostly 60's R&B and some pop, mostly just me and the acoustic guitar. I have several songs where I just play the chords which gets boring to listen to.
Question is what would I use pentatonic scales for.
Watch my Blues Primer Playlist and my recent Jam Band Pentatonic Melody video
Something I always have in mind with the blues scale is that it is always three 1, 3 intervals followed by two 1, 4 intervals. You can't get very lost if you remember that.
.Nice point. All you have to do then is know where you are starting in that progression because depending on position and string you may end up starting with the second instance of the 1-4, or the third instance of the 1-3, whatever.
as said before you are a super teacher THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
I think I've finally got this. ... thanks... 🍷🍺😃
Thank you for what you do.
Hey man ! Thank you so much for all the invaluable info !
From Big Valley ,Alberta ,Canada 😊👍
your classes are amazing man thanks a lot!
always a good day when you release a video. super excited for the blues master classes, thanks for all the work that you do!
Thanks for the chart
good stuff ive got to go to never lost
Thanks so much Ian. I've been struggling to memorize my boxes. Your channel has been an incredibly enlightening experience. I have been using the neverlost but my soloing needs a lot of help. Doing my best to learn how to hit those chord changes. I think you're going to make a guitar player out of me yet.
I'm very interested this guitar lesson
I'm trying so hard to internalize the 5 boxes. Thanks for your help
Watch the last two videos of my. caged primer playlist... it will help
Excellent lesson. Shared on Google+ too!
Thanks for a great lesson, which I am sure will be very beneficial to many viewers.
What is your opinion about considering the starting points for the Pentatonic scale in a modal sense? i.e. they are pentatonic versions of the modes, so Box 1 = Aeolian (aka Minor), Box 2 = Ionian (aka Major,) Box 3 = Dorian, Box 4 = Phrygian, and Box 5 = Mixolydian. Although with the pentatonic scale for the Dorian mode the 3rd of the minor chord is absent, for the Phrygian mode the 5th of the minor chord is absent, for the and for the Mixolydian mode the 3rd of the major chord is absent, which can confuse some students when you try to explain that the chords used are constructed using notes which you don't play in the pentatonic scale.
This then raises the question as to whether it is better to teach the theory of triad construction (Root, 3rd, 5th) before or after teaching the pentatonic scales. In my limited experience I have had more success when I teach the full heptatonic scales (or are they septatonic scales? Music theory uses terms from Greek and from Latin, and doesn't always make sense or follow logic, especially when you start delving into German and Slavic notations where they have an H note, but not a B note, or some other stupidity which takes a lot of hard work to understand) before introducing the pentatonic scales, this is probably because I tend to throw the theory of chord construction into the mix at the same time. I don't teach professionally, but I do think that every musician needs to learn a bit of theory at least.
Sorry about the long winded and rambling comment. I hope that it makes sense to you.
Thank you, great lesson
Good lesson. A+++++
Thank you so much!!
Damn, this should have more views!! Thanks a ton!
StichMethod Guitar You're most welcome! I just found your channel and it's such a help! Wow! Keep up the great work ☺️👍
Thanks Ian! Another great lesson!
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I've been looking for this lesson. Thanks.
Can you provide a video with all the relevant major & minor scales or chords please??
Just was watching your video for pentatonics and wanted to know all the shapes and then boom you wrote it in the comments. It’s like your reading my mind. Are you going to Mondegreen.
Haha I try! I won’t be at Mondogreen unfortunately ☹️
Clearly the best lesson !! 💪💪
Thank you so much, this is really helping!
Thank's.
You can start any Form # on any fret and the form will always be the same...got it! Now to my question....this is where I am struggling to visualize...five Forms, five chords in CAGED....which chord corresponds with which form? Thanks for your work and teaching ability! Much appreciated...👍👍👍
That’s easy…. Go to my Caged Primer Playlist and watch lessons 7 and 8…. Then report back😉
@@StichMethodGuitar Thank you!
666 likes and I'm gonna bust that to 667! ! Man the way you explain and show it ...it has finally sunk in. You sir are a gift Ty
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I must have Rabies or something it been little confusing.. but this lesson calling off fret number in is better starting off point...Would mined waking up one morning and being able to moving threw all 5 positions fluidly like SRV.. .I just woke up and i'am already starting the day off Sarcastically. my bad.. Thanks for the posting Iam going to give it a try.. Peace health and happiest to you and your family.
Hi Stich, I'm new to your material and trying to straighten out some of my thinking and vocabulary. What does "Form" mean, and what does "1" mean, exactly?
This really helped thanks!
Do they call you stitch because you connect things? OMG I've never learned so much in a day. You are an amazing teacher, I have a feeling you are an even better musician. I'm a huge fan, you ever play live, and what area of the US are you?
Is there a magic trick for memorizing these forms? Obviously the top notes are always the bottom notes from the previous form. I get lost very easily but I am just learning. I am 60 which is kind of old but the main issue is that I'm a dumb ass.
Thanks
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FINALLY FOUND IT!