Edit: This video is almost four years old. Since then, Ive bought another Kyosho car and was more impressed. My ways of reviewing has changed since then. Original comment: *Yes, I know I know I made some wrong points but I will never buy another Kyosho car* . There are people in the comments section below who are civilised enough to convince me why Kyosho is actually a good brand, which I really do appreciate (as compared to just calling me names because of me having an *_opinion_* ) Nevertheless, I hope you guys enjoyed the video! For those who are new to my channel - Welcome! I like to make videos about all things cars and diecast so if you collect Hot Wheels, Tomica, Majorette, Greenlight, M2 Machines and more, don't forget to click the subscribe button :)!
The rear lights are integrated in the grill on the real MP4-12C. You should google the car and looks at the details. It doesn't roll because it's meant to be screwed to the base.
Keep this in mind people. Everyone has their own oppinion. Respect that. Also please keep conversations clean. Please show my man Drifter D The Respect he deserves. For the most part this hobby is one of the most respectfull groups of people. lets keep it that way please!!
Brands like Kyosho and Autoart are meant for displaying purposes. I have a kyosho Veneno Roadster myeslf, it looks amazing even in 1/64 scale. Kyosho have MUCH MUCH better scaling than hot wheels and tomica (scales of tomica is all over the place) . I agree they are super overpriced (scalpers....) but nonetheless Should be proud of owning kyosho models, they are pretty good. :)
Even Autodelta Philippines (local coachbuilder for Volvo Buses in PH) have models of Volvo Buses by Autoart. And for me, it looks AMAZING. i have seen a picture of one of it.
Firstly they have a box like tomica and your retailer didn't give it to you. Secondly unlike hot wheels its accurately scaled 1/64, do you know what accurate 1/64 scale is ? Thirdly the real gt3 has transparent rear light google it. Lastly in Bangladesh kyosho costs 7 us dollars.
I agree with you, this man just a bastard, he didn't even check about the real car and also about the price before making this video, just like stupid moron with his stupid judgement
@@tegarjunata8799 its his opinion and how would he know it comes with a package. also he said the price HE got it for and said it might be wrong. the gt3 car has rear lights. do something better with your life then call someone who collects toy cars a moron for making a mistake
5:07, gt3 car undersides are covered up just like that in real life too since the car hang so low that any junk that fall out may cause major accidents
Hello there. I don't want to be rude or anything but this is the most ill-informed video i have ever seen on the subject. It is borderline insulting how much you get wrong. First of all, let's talk about the price you paid for this piece. Yes, it was too much, even more so when it is incomplete (you didn't get the ACTUAL box with it). But at the same time, this is a model that was released more than a year ago and it could be that it is highly sought after on the secondary market. Or it could just be that you were ripped off. Just to give you an idea, i just did a quick search on ebay and the first result that popped out matching your car was selling for less than 9 USD. You can get Kyoshos for pretty cheap. Not all lines or models are collectors' favourites, and bargain can be found easily. I have quite a few of them and the price range went from a couple USD to TLV territory. My advice for you get Kyoshos at a fair price: buy them when they come out, and use sellers like Japan Booster to get the best deals. Second point: the box. You didn't get the box it came in yet had no problem comparing it to Tomica Premium and other brands. The "shitty" container that came with your car is actually what is inside the box, as an added protection, not the actual box. The same way the small plastic bag that comes with every Tomica is not the actual container, just some added protection. As for the details missing, which ones? Did you even know what the actual car looked like before saying that things were missing? Those taillights are exactly like that in the actual race car. Kyosho has more details in their models than anything coming from Hot Wheels, Tomica (TLV excluded) and Johnny Lightning. It even beats to the punch Greenlight and most Autoworld by the simple fact that they always have side mirrors and all lights are plastic inserts (with only a few exceptions). I collect all these brands, so I know what they do or don't. Last point: do they roll? Well, most of them do. Some actually roll a lot better than models from Hot Wheels. But it really depends on the series and model. A lot of their race cars don't roll very well due to the low to very low stance of the car. By trying to be accurate they sometimes have to compromise, i guess. For me it has never been an issue because i don't play with this cars. That is not their purposes. So here is my review of your review. Please, check your facts. In this day and age it is pretty easy. I invite you to look further into this brand. Hell, i am even willing to send you some models if that can help. Peace!
+Elisio Da Costa Thank you very much for your constructive feedback. You do make some good points and for that, I might consider doing more research in the future. But as of now, I will not be buying anymore Kyosho mainly due to the pricing. Ebay and amazon _does_ sell these cars at a cheaper price (such as the USD9 price you mentioned) but the shipping fee is ridiculous and cannot be ignored. As for the box, I did see pictures of the box online and it is comparable to a Tomica box, but I feel that the "shitty" (Sorry, I should not have used such a term in the video) packaging could be much better, just like M2 machines' acrylic cases. As for the details, you are also right. I _have_ seen the real thing and maybe thats the way its supposed to be in the first place. Lastly, the rolling part of the cars comes down to a matter of opinion. Highly collectible cars such as Hotwheels Redlines and TLVs cars are not meant to be played with, but they still roll well nevertheless so I was surprised a high brand such as Kyosho couldn't deliver as well as Hot wheels and TLV. But to summarise, I will be more careful in the future when constructing a critisism. Alot of comments I get are people calling me a "faggot" or "gay" but you sir are a nice person. I appreciate the time you took to type out this comment 😊 Cheers!
My first impression from this video is the same. The lack of research. The moment he started complaining about taillights, in my mind, I was already "did this guy even know how the MP4-12C GT3 looks like?" Then moving on to why there isn't any pipings at the bottom. The McLaren is a mid-engined car, and they are known for mounting the exhaust pipes really high, way above the rear bumpers, between their taillights. Even there isn't a flat bottom, you shouldn't be able to see pipings, and then again it's a GT3 race car, so definitely the bottom is flat AF. Kyosho models aren't meant to be taken out of their base and "played" with. People put them in the cases and bases and display them like that. I myself is an avid 1/18 model collector, and that's what many of us do either. While hotwheels, they are designed for both kids to run them in the track at high-speed, and also adult collectors too. That's the reason for the metal bases on some models and the "nice" card packaging they have. If you'd actually look closely at the intricate details the kyosho have, then you'd start to appreciate the car and the price itself. But it's really normal, even in the 1/18 world. There are collectors who pay $200-300 dollars for a highly detailed autoart model with many opening parts and rich details. Down to every single bolts and nuts in the engine bay to carpetted flooring etc. Then there are also people who pay close to $1000 for a resin model with 0 opening parts. Just a shell with intricate details hiding inside and under the bonnet you can't open. I can't appreciate the latter, but there are people who can. Is it a bad model? Is it overpriced? I can't say so myself. So yeah, after watching this video, I can definitely tell that the Kyosho is definitely targetted at a different kind of collectors, definitely not your cup of tea, but I don't think it deserves the bashing like you did. Because all you did is generate hate for it, and I can see the majority of your commenters are hating on it after that.
Hello again. Just a bit more information for you to consider. If you want better packaging for your cars then know that Kyosho has two lines of 1:64 models. The ones that you can buy in general stores, like the McLaren you reviewed, and a more "high-end" line that comes in acrylic cases and with some added details like antennas and brakes calipers. They can be a little pricier but still nowhere as expensive as a regular TLV and they are really, really nice. As for shipping, i always order directly from Japan as it is far cheaper than anything from the US. Also, some sellers offer free shipping worldwide if you buy for a certain amount. Worth considering if you are budget oriented (like me). Thank you for not taking umbrage and thank you @Ryo Hiyake for the added information. Cheers! :)
+Rio Hiyake Im now aware the base should be flat buy still.. A plastic base? 😣 On top of that, if the cars are not meant to be played with but if thats the case, Kyosho should just stick the wheels to the car with glue so it doesnt roll at all. No? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just my thoughts. But then again maybe you are right, Kyosho is definitely not my cup of tea. First impressions are important and in this case, it was a bad one
+Elisio Da Costa I will take your word for it.I'll keep a lookout for these Kyoshos when the price is right. Thanks to both of you for sharing your thoughts with me, I greatly appreciate it 😊 Cheers
Clearly the Kyosho cars are display only, but at least make it roll, dudes... I actually like the Kyosho packaging with the car sitting on its base and clearly visible from all sides (although the car comes in a box like the other commenters mentioned). I dislike how most diecast cars come in packaging where you can only see one side and you don't know if there are any defects on the other.
1. In japan, this car is sold for couple hundreds jp yuan, which is cheap.2. The reason why the package is so simple is that the seller threw away the box. Every kyosho has a paper box. Maybe to reduce the ship cost and also to reveal the car (some are sold in mystery boxes like lottery), sellers would remove the boxes. This is very common in Japan.3. Reselling price is high because this car is not officially sold outside of Japana.4. Online website is: goodsmileshop.com/en/ Normal kyosho are sold in set (around 10-20 boxes)Original kyosho is sold individually with a mica box for display (higher quality) Don’t buy this car on amazon, that is stupid. On ebay, depend on which seller that you can have good price.
For JPY 580,it's a good price for Kyosho.I saw a 1/64 with the price very expensive than a meal in Tokyo (the meal in Tokyo is JPY 1000,very nice they set all the price like that.Make it easier for me to bring money just for what I needed for a day)
If you look at a real C12 GT3, you won't see the backlights unless they are on, because their cover is black, so ye don't complain about detail without seeing pictures of the real deal xd
@@DrifterD Really? And what about hotwheels with their very stupid bad details, wrong scaling, bad painting, so much miss place tampos, but you bought some of them with very expensive price. Really man? Are you kidding? Wake up man. All of company always have their limited or special product, and that's gonna make the price are not same for every models, it is all depends on rarity. Are you really a collector? How could you make this stupid video without doing more research before? Have you checked another model from kyosho? Have you compared the model and the real car?
@@tegarjunata8799 yeah. Tomica is better than Hotwheels. Tomica has suspension, opening doors and trunk while hotwheels is only a body in piece of metal and no door + suspension
1. Kyosho switched factory(China) after 1/64 Ferrari collection 9 Neo. The old factory(china company) closed and lose build tools. 2. Rubber tires from New Factory are 2times thicker than old model. So mostly the wheel cant roll. Also models quality get worst. 3. If you open a Kyosho 1/64 Ferrari model. you will know why they use plastic base. (detailed interior, steering wheel and rollcage)
At the lottery, they had many McLaren cars like P1, 12C, 650s and others, but I think that the P1 was the best. The wheels didn't roll smoothly but the design was so good 😊 It was 1/64 scale but the line on the side looked very realistic. But the others wasn't very good lol
I think you got faked in your purchase. See first of all a Kyosho Mclaren 12C GT3 does not have tail lights. Second, they do mot cost as much. (ps in my opinion 580¥ isn’t expensive.)Third the box looks like it wasn’t handled right.
30 singapore dollars? That's more than P1,000 here in the Philippines that's like 8 pcs of hot wheels car and you still got P40 left. Naaaaah kyoso naaaah
mate, all the kyosho cars are around $8 - $15 in my country they're not actually expensive at all even this year. aand you kind of picked one of the models that some people hated
Yes, I think they are too expensive and don't like the fact that they don't roll. They are very nicely detailed and they do lens the tail lights on some of their models, but they should do it for all of them at that price. I have never bought a Kyosho and probably never will. I have bought several Johnny lightnings and a few M2s. These also have a lot of detail. I hear the M2s are very delicate but I keep mine in the box so they are fine. Overall I would say that Johnny Lightning is my favorite premium line.
And legend says in 2021 that you are collecting Kyosho. I told myself that too when I was upset over my first Kyosho and how I'm done with them after my first one but you know what. I was wrong. I have a lot of them now in 2021 LOL. 😂🤣👍🏻
kyosho cars are just great, I have many of them but only Ferraries...maybe this car is not good as we see,but generally they are very detailed and nice...
Haha! Nice DrifterD, you roached Kyosho!!... I totally agree with you buddy!! For that kind of money it should darn well have tail lights and at least a little detail on the chassis!! And the fact that is doesn't roll? Junk! Good review!
It looks pretty cool, but Kyoshos are hard to find and can be pricey, like I said before, I've only found 3 Kyosho models on my side of the shores in the past 2 years, there might be more here, but at this point, I'm entirely uncertain. Of course, when you do find a Kyosho model, you really should enjoy it because who knows if you'll ever find another one given how hard they are to come by (for those who don't live in Japan)!
Kyosho cars are model replicas. They are supposed to look like the real car. Since they are more accurate with better details they are more expensive. Kyoshos havent been sold much lately which is why they are not featured as much and why some have increased in price. Also the box is great in my view as it is resealable and stackable for storage (unlike all the HW and GL blisters). Moreover, the packaging protects the car (yes, they are fragile especially the mirrors) while still allowed you to see it. The packaging is crucial for shipping, storing or moving the car. If you want replicas Kyoshos are awesome. But they are not toys. TLVs are actually more expensive on the second hand market. As for the plastic base, other makers that strive for high realism like inno64 and tarmac also have plastic bases (as metal doesnt really add anything to the realism of the car except for making it heavier).
It looks great i think its really accurate in it's proportions the headlights are good the back is good to it's just not painted.and look the tires it really well done
It really IS disappointing! For that much, they could lens the rear lights if they don't do a metal base. The fact that it doesn't roll makes me hesitant to buy any Kyosho, because I've been VERY tempted to get the 911 turbo. Have you seen those? They look amazing. If you can't find them online, go to Japan Booster. They have em on their page.
+Duke LeMans I know right? :/ Well its up to you. After I posted this on Instagram, a kyosho collector suggests I should buy their 1:43 cars instead. Even he said himself that the 1:64 sucks lol!
Drifter D after that experience, I doubt I would spend EVEN MORE money on Kyosho. My friend is going home to Japan for a month, so he's going to bring me back some TLV, and we'll see... Maybe I'll try just one Porsche;)
I’m getting into 1/64 cars to collect any well detailed brands you’d recommend I’m in the states so it’s hard to find foreign classics. Thank you and great video
take a look at the rear lights on a REAL McLaren. the lights are not red until lit up hence being correct with no tampo. the rear of the McLaren is all black so kyosho got it correct. kyosho is a collector car not a play car hence it not rolling good. the hotwheels is all metal because its a real riders as well. kyosho is more for a shelf collector, hot wheels is more for a kiddie play.
We don't really see that brand in the states except for their rc stuff. I do have a 1/43 Kyosho 65 Shelby Cobra that is very nice but I also have a 1/43 autoart 57 Corvette SS1 that is a museum quality work of art and no it wasn't cheap.
..... i collect old vw beetle 1/64 from many brands ... i think kyosho has the best details ... i dont really care the plastic base... and not really care if its not rolling.. im not a small kid who play with his little car... i buy it to collect and have it show in my shelf... and the vw bettle kyosho has the best details and lamp from other 1/64 vw beetle... thats my opinion
+Chris Aryanto Thanks for sharing your opinion :) Im not a small kid who plays with his car either, but the thought of knowing the car doesnt roll at all and have a plastic base just kinda annoys me, especially for the price im paying
U need to know about kyosho, the car is only for display, not for rolling it on your table. And the seller sold to u at unreasonable price. So now I think the only problem is you. Who the hell cares about the base by the way ? Are u collect for displaying the car or the base of the car ? And u dont know the market price of the car. You bought it at unreasonable price and then you blame it. Omg 🤦🏻♂️ learn about the brand first before you buy it. Dont just search somewhere and buy straight away. Do some search about the brand first.
Kyosho is MUCH BETTER THAN Hotwheels1. Kyosho cars have insert headlights and sometimes also taillights2. Kyosho cars have a greater variety (beautiful Bentley cars... )Hotwheels just looks really ugly and is meant for kids. Kyosho 1/18 is much expensive but the detail is what matters first, not the price.
Kyosho cars are for displaying and collecting. Thats why they don't care much about the bottom of cars. I have no idea how did he compare this to a painted lights RR hw and say that hw is better. Maybe still a kid that want to drag cars around. I love that 12c gt3 and even more when turn it into custom boutsen ginion version.
Meh, alright looking model. I'd rather a Hot Wheels though. And Greenlight cars are nice, except for one casting, the 69 Dodge Charger. Probably the worst casting of that car I've ever seen, I have quite the collection of cars but I've never seen such filth. I can immediately tell if a car is out of proportion.
You havent seen Kyosho Beads collection. With much more details plus an acrylic case covering. It has almost the same price as the normal Kyosho, and sometimes even less, at least from where I live. But very hard to find
first of all the reason why it doesn't have rear lights it's because the rear lights isn't coloured. i advice to search for the car first before you judge the diecast itself because kyosho is a high-end model creator and they wouldn't definitely forget the rear lights unless they're colourless. second, why would they put an effort on creating designs underneath it if you will just display it? and third, it doesn't move like a normal, boring, hotwheels cars because, they're simply created just for display and not for playing. fourth, you're asking why it isn't famous? maybe the people around you are not collecting high end Pan cars because that is what I've observed when you said you only hear "majorette, hotwheels, tomica, etc.", and those brands are not high-end unlike kyosho. Better start collecting high-end pan cars and not those cheap and "for playing only" hot wheels. i'm serious. i'm not being biased with kyosho but i'm soo disappointed by your reactions on a high-end diecast car. and by the way, don't buy from lazadas or amazon, they're ridiculously overpriced.
I guess ebay kinda scam you off, kyosho cost like $9 here, came with a box (not just a plain plastic). And i guess the reason they didn't put any details on the base since you wont really see it Everytime (to reduce cost i guess idk) and according to my friend, kyosho actually concentrated to be a displayed (that's why they won't roll) but my 400R kyosho looks real good and it's good enough for a little photoshoot 😂
Where do you live brother? Wanna go there if Kyosho is $ 9,00.Have a lot of wishlist from Kyosho and never been able to get it as the price is soaring high,too high I should say.Like an skyscraper.
Edit: This video is almost four years old. Since then, Ive bought another Kyosho car and was more impressed. My ways of reviewing has changed since then.
Original comment:
*Yes, I know I know I made some wrong points but I will never buy another Kyosho car* . There are people in the comments section below who are civilised enough to convince me why Kyosho is actually a good brand, which I really do appreciate (as compared to just calling me names because of me having an *_opinion_* )
Nevertheless, I hope you guys enjoyed the video! For those who are new to my channel - Welcome! I like to make videos about all things cars and diecast so if you collect Hot Wheels, Tomica, Majorette, Greenlight, M2 Machines and more, don't forget to click the subscribe button :)!
The real McLaren 12c gt3 doesn’t have rear taillights drifter.
Kyosho isn't too expensive especially for yours series. Looks like you're the one who get an expensive one from wrong seller.
The rear lights are integrated in the grill on the real MP4-12C. You should google the car and looks at the details. It doesn't roll because it's meant to be screwed to the base.
Does the screwed included when I buy it in new condition and still inside the box?
@@handywijaya3689 Should have the screw in it
@@Aciimov Supposed to but I have bought several Kyoshos that aren't included with screws
you have got to be kidding me this car's taillights are like that irl
Keep this in mind people. Everyone has their own oppinion. Respect that. Also please keep conversations clean. Please show my man Drifter D The Respect he deserves. For the most part this hobby is one of the most respectfull groups of people. lets keep it that way please!!
4:45, in real life, if the car's rear lights were off, u wouldnt be able to see them either. it would look like part of a grill
Brands like Kyosho and Autoart are meant for displaying purposes. I have a kyosho Veneno Roadster myeslf, it looks amazing even in 1/64 scale. Kyosho have MUCH MUCH better scaling than hot wheels and tomica (scales of tomica is all over the place) . I agree they are super overpriced (scalpers....) but nonetheless Should be proud of owning kyosho models, they are pretty good. :)
Even Autodelta Philippines (local coachbuilder for Volvo Buses in PH) have models of Volvo Buses by Autoart. And for me, it looks AMAZING. i have seen a picture of one of it.
Hot wheels and tomica can be displayed too, what are you talking about lol
Firstly they have a box like tomica and your retailer didn't give it to you. Secondly unlike hot wheels its accurately scaled 1/64, do you know what accurate 1/64 scale is ? Thirdly the real gt3 has transparent rear light google it. Lastly in Bangladesh kyosho costs 7 us dollars.
I agree with you, this man just a bastard, he didn't even check about the real car and also about the price before making this video, just like stupid moron with his stupid judgement
then again its his own opinion
Tegar Junata true he just got faked
@@tegarjunata8799 its his opinion and how would he know it comes with a package. also he said the price HE got it for and said it might be wrong. the gt3 car has rear lights. do something better with your life then call someone who collects toy cars a moron for making a mistake
Oi bro amio bangladeshi kyosho car koi theke kinte parbo
5:07, gt3 car undersides are covered up just like that in real life too since the car hang so low that any junk that fall out may cause major accidents
Hello there. I don't want to be rude or anything but this is the most ill-informed video i have ever seen on the subject. It is borderline insulting how much you get wrong.
First of all, let's talk about the price you paid for this piece. Yes, it was too much, even more so when it is incomplete (you didn't get the ACTUAL box with it). But at the same time, this is a model that was released more than a year ago and it could be that it is highly sought after on the secondary market. Or it could just be that you were ripped off. Just to give you an idea, i just did a quick search on ebay and the first result that popped out matching your car was selling for less than 9 USD.
You can get Kyoshos for pretty cheap. Not all lines or models are collectors' favourites, and bargain can be found easily. I have quite a few of them and the price range went from a couple USD to TLV territory. My advice for you get Kyoshos at a fair price: buy them when they come out, and use sellers like Japan Booster to get the best deals.
Second point: the box. You didn't get the box it came in yet had no problem comparing it to Tomica Premium and other brands. The "shitty" container that came with your car is actually what is inside the box, as an added protection, not the actual box. The same way the small plastic bag that comes with every Tomica is not the actual container, just some added protection.
As for the details missing, which ones? Did you even know what the actual car looked like before saying that things were missing? Those taillights are exactly like that in the actual race car.
Kyosho has more details in their models than anything coming from Hot Wheels, Tomica (TLV excluded) and Johnny Lightning. It even beats to the punch Greenlight and most Autoworld by the simple fact that they always have side mirrors and all lights are plastic inserts (with only a few exceptions). I collect all these brands, so I know what they do or don't.
Last point: do they roll? Well, most of them do. Some actually roll a lot better than models from Hot Wheels. But it really depends on the series and model. A lot of their race cars don't roll very well due to the low to very low stance of the car. By trying to be accurate they sometimes have to compromise, i guess.
For me it has never been an issue because i don't play with this cars. That is not their purposes.
So here is my review of your review.
Please, check your facts. In this day and age it is pretty easy. I invite you to look further into this brand. Hell, i am even willing to send you some models if that can help.
Peace!
+Elisio Da Costa Thank you very much for your constructive feedback. You do make some good points and for that, I might consider doing more research in the future.
But as of now, I will not be buying anymore Kyosho mainly due to the pricing. Ebay and amazon _does_ sell these cars at a cheaper price (such as the USD9 price you mentioned) but the shipping fee is ridiculous and cannot be ignored.
As for the box, I did see pictures of the box online and it is comparable to a Tomica box, but I feel that the "shitty" (Sorry, I should not have used such a term in the video) packaging could be much better, just like M2 machines' acrylic cases.
As for the details, you are also right. I _have_ seen the real thing and maybe thats the way its supposed to be in the first place.
Lastly, the rolling part of the cars comes down to a matter of opinion. Highly collectible cars such as Hotwheels Redlines and TLVs cars are not meant to be played with, but they still roll well nevertheless so I was surprised a high brand such as Kyosho couldn't deliver as well as Hot wheels and TLV.
But to summarise, I will be more careful in the future when constructing a critisism. Alot of comments I get are people calling me a "faggot" or "gay" but you sir are a nice person. I appreciate the time you took to type out this comment 😊 Cheers!
My first impression from this video is the same. The lack of research. The moment he started complaining about taillights, in my mind, I was already "did this guy even know how the MP4-12C GT3 looks like?"
Then moving on to why there isn't any pipings at the bottom. The McLaren is a mid-engined car, and they are known for mounting the exhaust pipes really high, way above the rear bumpers, between their taillights. Even there isn't a flat bottom, you shouldn't be able to see pipings, and then again it's a GT3 race car, so definitely the bottom is flat AF.
Kyosho models aren't meant to be taken out of their base and "played" with. People put them in the cases and bases and display them like that. I myself is an avid 1/18 model collector, and that's what many of us do either. While hotwheels, they are designed for both kids to run them in the track at high-speed, and also adult collectors too. That's the reason for the metal bases on some models and the "nice" card packaging they have.
If you'd actually look closely at the intricate details the kyosho have, then you'd start to appreciate the car and the price itself.
But it's really normal, even in the 1/18 world. There are collectors who pay $200-300 dollars for a highly detailed autoart model with many opening parts and rich details. Down to every single bolts and nuts in the engine bay to carpetted flooring etc. Then there are also people who pay close to $1000 for a resin model with 0 opening parts. Just a shell with intricate details hiding inside and under the bonnet you can't open. I can't appreciate the latter, but there are people who can. Is it a bad model? Is it overpriced? I can't say so myself.
So yeah, after watching this video, I can definitely tell that the Kyosho is definitely targetted at a different kind of collectors, definitely not your cup of tea, but I don't think it deserves the bashing like you did. Because all you did is generate hate for it, and I can see the majority of your commenters are hating on it after that.
Hello again.
Just a bit more information for you to consider.
If you want better packaging for your cars then know that Kyosho has two lines of 1:64 models. The ones that you can buy in general stores, like the McLaren you reviewed, and a more "high-end" line that comes in acrylic cases and with some added details like antennas and brakes calipers. They can be a little pricier but still nowhere as expensive as a regular TLV and they are really, really nice.
As for shipping, i always order directly from Japan as it is far cheaper than anything from the US. Also, some sellers offer free shipping worldwide if you buy for a certain amount. Worth considering if you are budget oriented (like me).
Thank you for not taking umbrage and thank you @Ryo Hiyake for the added information.
Cheers! :)
+Rio Hiyake Im now aware the base should be flat buy still.. A plastic base? 😣 On top of that, if the cars are not meant to be played with but if thats the case, Kyosho should just stick the wheels to the car with glue so it doesnt roll at all. No? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just my thoughts.
But then again maybe you are right, Kyosho is definitely not my cup of tea. First impressions are important and in this case, it was a bad one
+Elisio Da Costa I will take your word for it.I'll keep a lookout for these Kyoshos when the price is right. Thanks to both of you for sharing your thoughts with me, I greatly appreciate it 😊 Cheers
Clearly the Kyosho cars are display only, but at least make it roll, dudes... I actually like the Kyosho packaging with the car sitting on its base and clearly visible from all sides (although the car comes in a box like the other commenters mentioned). I dislike how most diecast cars come in packaging where you can only see one side and you don't know if there are any defects on the other.
The base is actually very detailed because of that diffuser on the back. The car has a flat for in real life for aerodynamic reasons.
that flat base isn't bad. Gt3 cars covers their base so flat to avoid some risks. also I love it for 1:64 because you can easily remove dusts.
What risks?
@@FreemanF39 most likely drivetrain damage but gt3 cars also have like special aero plates under the cars
1. In japan, this car is sold for couple hundreds jp yuan, which is cheap.2. The reason why the package is so simple is that the seller threw away the box. Every kyosho has a paper box. Maybe to reduce the ship cost and also to reveal the car (some are sold in mystery boxes like lottery), sellers would remove the boxes. This is very common in Japan.3. Reselling price is high because this car is not officially sold outside of Japana.4. Online website is: goodsmileshop.com/en/
Normal kyosho are sold in set (around 10-20 boxes)Original kyosho is sold individually with a mica box for display (higher quality)
Don’t buy this car on amazon, that is stupid. On ebay, depend on which seller that you can have good price.
For JPY 580,it's a good price for Kyosho.I saw a 1/64 with the price very expensive than a meal in Tokyo (the meal in Tokyo is JPY 1000,very nice they set all the price like that.Make it easier for me to bring money just for what I needed for a day)
If you look at a real C12 GT3, you won't see the backlights unless they are on, because their cover is black, so ye don't complain about detail without seeing pictures of the real deal xd
Kyosho, Tomica Limited Vintage, and Autoworld are the best
+:o Yes, Autoworld is great and TLVs are not that bad. But for kyosho, their 1:64 are not that good for its price point
TLV and Auto World is too damn expensive,very expensive than Kyosho if I should say
:o yup
@@DrifterD Really? And what about hotwheels with their very stupid bad details, wrong scaling, bad painting, so much miss place tampos, but you bought some of them with very expensive price. Really man? Are you kidding? Wake up man. All of company always have their limited or special product, and that's gonna make the price are not same for every models, it is all depends on rarity. Are you really a collector? How could you make this stupid video without doing more research before? Have you checked another model from kyosho? Have you compared the model and the real car?
@@tegarjunata8799 yeah. Tomica is better than Hotwheels. Tomica has suspension, opening doors and trunk while hotwheels is only a body in piece of metal and no door + suspension
i dont want to dislike i like your vidssss
matchbox are more detailed then a hot wheels and cost less
1. Kyosho switched factory(China) after 1/64 Ferrari collection 9 Neo. The old factory(china company) closed and lose build tools.
2. Rubber tires from New Factory are 2times thicker than old model. So mostly the wheel cant roll. Also models quality get worst.
3. If you open a Kyosho 1/64 Ferrari model. you will know why they use plastic base. (detailed interior, steering wheel and rollcage)
I have lots of 1/64 Kyosho cars but I was disappointed that the wheels don't move smoothly...
Oh yeah and also the McLaren 12C GT3 was sold at Convenience Stores at Japan as a Lottery
+Mazda Love Same here 😐
+Mazda Love As a lottery? Wow, it must be an uncommon car 😆
At the lottery, they had many McLaren cars like P1, 12C, 650s and others, but I think that the P1 was the best. The wheels didn't roll smoothly but the design was so good 😊 It was 1/64 scale but the line on the side looked very realistic. But the others wasn't very good lol
+Mazda Love I see.. Cool! 😆 I looked up thr P1 and indeed it looks nice!
I think you got faked in your purchase. See first of all a Kyosho Mclaren 12C GT3 does not have tail lights. Second, they do mot cost as much. (ps in my opinion 580¥ isn’t expensive.)Third the box looks like it wasn’t handled right.
You should buy kyosho beads series man.. and compare with your hot wheels :P
This little kid collects hot wheels. It says it alll...
the reason the base is plastic, the box is bland, and the car is screwed in is because its supposed to be a display model
Corvette Grand Sport Roadster of hotwheels is much better and has a very good details than that.
I've been a fan of hot wheels and tomica but I've neva heard of dis before
tbh I think $5 is a reasonable price
Sahara desert was the best part hahaha
I bought a Kyosho BMW E46 M3 GTR, and I was pleased by it. I got it for $25 and I'm leaving it in the display case.
30 singapore dollars? That's more than P1,000 here in the Philippines that's like 8 pcs of hot wheels car and you still got P40 left. Naaaaah kyoso naaaah
mate, all the kyosho cars are around $8 - $15 in my country they're not actually expensive at all even this year. aand you kind of picked one of the models that some people hated
You forgot the engine details
Yes, I think they are too expensive and don't like the fact that they don't roll. They are very nicely detailed and they do lens the tail lights on some of their models, but they should do it for all of them at that price. I have never bought a Kyosho and probably never will. I have bought several Johnny lightnings and a few M2s. These also have a lot of detail. I hear the M2s are very delicate but I keep mine in the box so they are fine. Overall I would say that Johnny Lightning is my favorite premium line.
+Mark S You make some fair points. I have yet to get my first johnny lightning car, so that Im not sure of haha
Mark S boooooo suck it
Mark S The real McLaren 12c gt3 doesn’t have rear taillights
Dude, this cars does not have headlights sticking out, it is integrated within the body. Plus better quality is MORE important than lower prices.
I can agree on Johnny Lightning. I picked up a black Chevy Nova recently and it's very nice. Opening hood too.
And legend says in 2021 that you are collecting Kyosho. I told myself that too when I was upset over my first Kyosho and how I'm done with them after my first one but you know what. I was wrong. I have a lot of them now in 2021 LOL. 😂🤣👍🏻
I bought one Kyosho Ferrari Mystery boxes and then it was only for about ₱700.00 and was easy to assemble
kyosho cars are just great, I have many of them but only Ferraries...maybe this car is not good as we see,but generally they are very detailed and nice...
reconquista98 _They don't roll though_
Haha! Nice DrifterD, you roached Kyosho!!... I totally agree with you buddy!! For that kind of money it should darn well have tail lights and at least a little detail on the chassis!! And the fact that is doesn't roll? Junk! Good review!
I completely agree, I liked
Stay Honest ! I agree about the plastic base ! HotWheels is the Industry Leader in combining style quality and value !!!
I have 70 hot wheels
This video could've had less dislikes if only the word "mid" had been invented in 2017 lol
You want it to be as realistic as possible but you want them to add stuff on the bottom of a race car? And metal bases make it even more expensive
3:13 doesn’t has!
the most disadvantage is, its costly for a 1:64 and a cheap base
u have good points
good luck
+Shariful Islam Yup :/ Thanks for watching 😊
well the better it is, the more expensive ... only shit is worth nothing
Here in the US I have found many kyosho cars and the reason there that much money because there actually cars and they are collectibles
Kyosho are not big in diecast. But in rc, they are very big
why were there names under the car
(Samuel Ace, Puffer Fish, etc?)
Can my name be put there too?
+Wheelspin TV If you watch till the end on one of my videos, you'll find out 😁
Drifter D any video?
+Wheelspin TV It wouldnt be fair to the others if I just gave away the answer 😂 Just watch my videos and you'll find out 😁
Drifter D its.ok!!!
+Ricardo Bernal No, wtf. Thats not the reason why this is so. I do it only for my active subsribers, not for the money
It looks pretty cool, but Kyoshos are hard to find and can be pricey, like I said before, I've only found 3 Kyosho models on my side of the shores in the past 2 years, there might be more here, but at this point, I'm entirely uncertain. Of course, when you do find a Kyosho model, you really should enjoy it because who knows if you'll ever find another one given how hard they are to come by (for those who don't live in Japan)!
3:52 Kyoshos,
Come in this shitty boxes😂
ye, i agree, they are so lazy they cant even put at least the name kyosho on the package
Kyosho cars are model replicas. They are supposed to look like the real car. Since they are more accurate with better details they are more expensive. Kyoshos havent been sold much lately which is why they are not featured as much and why some have increased in price. Also the box is great in my view as it is resealable and stackable for storage (unlike all the HW and GL blisters). Moreover, the packaging protects the car (yes, they are fragile especially the mirrors) while still allowed you to see it. The packaging is crucial for shipping, storing or moving the car. If you want replicas Kyoshos are awesome. But they are not toys. TLVs are actually more expensive on the second hand market. As for the plastic base, other makers that strive for high realism like inno64 and tarmac also have plastic bases (as metal doesnt really add anything to the realism of the car except for making it heavier).
Do real cars use plastic in their base?
It looks great i think its really accurate in it's proportions the headlights are good the back is good to it's just not painted.and look the tires it really well done
It really IS disappointing! For that much, they could lens the rear lights if they don't do a metal base. The fact that it doesn't roll makes me hesitant to buy any Kyosho, because I've been VERY tempted to get the 911 turbo. Have you seen those? They look amazing. If you can't find them online, go to Japan Booster. They have em on their page.
+Duke LeMans I know right? :/ Well its up to you. After I posted this on Instagram, a kyosho collector suggests I should buy their 1:43 cars instead. Even he said himself that the 1:64 sucks lol!
Drifter D after that experience, I doubt I would spend EVEN MORE money on Kyosho. My friend is going home to Japan for a month, so he's going to bring me back some TLV, and we'll see... Maybe I'll try just one Porsche;)
+Duke LeMans Haha alright 😆👍
Drifter D 😜
I also like the cars but the packaging sucks
the mclaren irl the rear lights are part off the body work and you can hardy tell them apart when they are off
I’m getting into 1/64 cars to collect any well detailed brands you’d recommend I’m in the states so it’s hard to find foreign classics. Thank you and great video
I’m a collector and I recommend to tomica or m2 Machines both brands have opening parts like doors and hoods and trunks
I think it is suposed to stay on the stand
They have normal screws and this whould make those great for customization
But remember, that’s why it’s screwed onto base.
it says 580 Yen on the side... that's 5$ O_o
+TheFormActually Us$5 or SG$7 yea haha it was pretty cheap so I took the opportunity and see whether kyoshos are as good as they sound
In Indonesia kyosho cost like 12 dollars to 100 dollars if the 100 dollars it’s the complete set
they are not overpriced it is just rare car the reason it doesn't roll is because ur not supposed to take it out of box it is a collectors item
Kyosho is actually amazing.
take a look at the rear lights on a REAL McLaren. the lights are not red until lit up hence being correct with no tampo. the rear of the McLaren is all black so kyosho got it correct. kyosho is a collector car not a play car hence it not rolling good. the hotwheels is all metal because its a real riders as well. kyosho is more for a shelf collector, hot wheels is more for a kiddie play.
Sorry but you are totally wrong. Kyosho is die-cast of great quality and precision. My friend you are comparing die-cast with hot wheels toys 😂😂😂
I prefer greenlights or tomica premium than this shit
+Jehian Ezra Agreed. I wouldn't necessary call this "shit", but yes I will be sticking to tomicas and greenlights 😂
Drifter D maybe kyosho is not bad... Just overpriced item...because kyosho is 3x more expensive than greenlight.
+Jehian Ezra Yes, definitely overpriced :/
did you knew that kyosho also have bootleg version.. :P maybe ur review car :P
We don't really see that brand in the states except for their rc stuff. I do have a 1/43 Kyosho 65 Shelby Cobra that is very nice but I also have a 1/43 autoart 57 Corvette SS1 that is a museum quality work of art and no it wasn't cheap.
Thanks god we have tarmac and mini gt nowadays, which is cheaper than kyosho, but good at details.
BRO BUY A REAL CAR
I knows that you are single extreamly 😡 mad
is it made in japan??
yee
China
It’s cost 30$ because you pay kyosho
The rear lights are suppose
To be black FYI
There was a 1:18 scale Kyosho Veneno I wanted to get for 80 dollars. Looked nice but I just never bought it.
In our country, the price is so much lower
dude...invest in a tripod for your vblogs...
But,kyosho do makes some really awesome rc car kits especially the kyosho tomahawk and the beetle
The 12 has no visible brake lights they are tinted black and are in the strips
..... i collect old vw beetle 1/64 from many brands ... i think kyosho has the best details ... i dont really care the plastic base... and not really care if its not rolling.. im not a small kid who play with his little car... i buy it to collect and have it show in my shelf... and the vw bettle kyosho has the best details and lamp from other 1/64 vw beetle... thats my opinion
+Chris Aryanto Thanks for sharing your opinion :) Im not a small kid who plays with his car either, but the thought of knowing the car doesnt roll at all and have a plastic base just kinda annoys me, especially for the price im paying
thank you for sharing yours too :D
You ain't going to get a Bentley Turbo from Hotwheels...Kyoshos are for serious collectors.
U need to know about kyosho, the car is only for display, not for rolling it on your table. And the seller sold to u at unreasonable price. So now I think the only problem is you. Who the hell cares about the base by the way ? Are u collect for displaying the car or the base of the car ? And u dont know the market price of the car. You bought it at unreasonable price and then you blame it. Omg 🤦🏻♂️ learn about the brand first before you buy it. Dont just search somewhere and buy straight away. Do some search about the brand first.
Kyosho is MUCH BETTER THAN Hotwheels1. Kyosho cars have insert headlights and sometimes also taillights2. Kyosho cars have a greater variety (beautiful Bentley cars... )Hotwheels just looks really ugly and is meant for kids. Kyosho 1/18 is much expensive but the detail is what matters first, not the price.
The 12c uses thin strips as the tail lights
I dont how you can complain whrn you mainly collect hot wheels
Kyosho cars are for displaying and collecting. Thats why they don't care much about the bottom of cars. I have no idea how did he compare this to a painted lights RR hw and say that hw is better. Maybe still a kid that want to drag cars around. I love that 12c gt3 and even more when turn it into custom boutsen ginion version.
Meh, alright looking model. I'd rather a Hot Wheels though. And Greenlight cars are nice, except for one casting, the 69 Dodge Charger. Probably the worst casting of that car I've ever seen, I have quite the collection of cars but I've never seen such filth. I can immediately tell if a car is out of proportion.
The chassis is sad...
You havent seen Kyosho Beads collection. With much more details plus an acrylic case covering. It has almost the same price as the normal Kyosho, and sometimes even less, at least from where I live. But very hard to find
+Erik Fernandez Cool! Ive searched for pics of the beads collection and they look fantasric! Much better than... than this mclaren 😐
first of all the reason why it doesn't have rear lights it's because the rear lights isn't coloured. i advice to search for the car first before you judge the diecast itself because kyosho is a high-end model creator and they wouldn't definitely forget the rear lights unless they're colourless. second, why would they put an effort on creating designs underneath it if you will just display it? and third, it doesn't move like a normal, boring, hotwheels cars because, they're simply created just for display and not for playing. fourth, you're asking why it isn't famous? maybe the people around you are not collecting high end Pan cars because that is what I've observed when you said you only hear "majorette, hotwheels, tomica, etc.", and those brands are not high-end unlike kyosho. Better start collecting high-end pan cars and not those cheap and "for playing only" hot wheels. i'm serious. i'm not being biased with kyosho but i'm soo disappointed by your reactions on a high-end diecast car.
and by the way, don't buy from lazadas or amazon, they're ridiculously overpriced.
Do their wheels spin?
Lol the beginning oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Could you give this away? I really want it
Kyosho do makes great rc cars tho
haziqrc's Tamiya is better in my opinion
@@racinglineph7857 yeah,me too
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I guess ebay kinda scam you off, kyosho cost like $9 here, came with a box (not just a plain plastic). And i guess the reason they didn't put any details on the base since you wont really see it Everytime (to reduce cost i guess idk) and according to my friend, kyosho actually concentrated to be a displayed (that's why they won't roll) but my 400R kyosho looks real good and it's good enough for a little photoshoot 😂
Where do you live brother? Wanna go there if Kyosho is $ 9,00.Have a lot of wishlist from Kyosho and never been able to get it as the price is soaring high,too high I should say.Like an skyscraper.
cool car no good packaging and a bit expensive compared to mini gt's
wow first of all yes they do come in a nice box u got scammed dude wow
for the money i understand it just for looks i guess.mike c
Hey difter i wana buy your car how much is it for me to buy?
The mp4-12c tailight is led
Sg I think don't have any retails selling them