Thank you for the honest comparison. We at the 3D scanning community value your tests since they look the most unbiased and professional at the same time. A hint: Otter is just a face scanning prince. A face scanning king is... Otter in small mode. Tested personally
Thank you for doing the video comparison between the raptor and raptor X. This in-depth is really giving me a lot of information that you want. Thank you again.
As always very informative, thank you. I also received the bridge for the Raptor (pre-order) About the phone clamp, it is not very usable on a Pixel 7a as you need to position the phone off-center or else the clamp will press on the buttons. I only managed to use the screen-sharing via the QR-code scan and was not able to connect using the app. However I did not connect my phone to the same access point of the bridge, but rather have my phone connected to my wireless network and the PC also connected to LAN. On my laptop (Lenovo Legion Slim 5 16ARP9), I managed to get about 40 fps while scanning using the bridge. I did not use the USB WiFi6 adapter on the laptop. The bridge makes scanning a lot easier and is IMHO worth the money. (at least for the pre-order price) The driver included on the USB WiFi6 stick cannot complete its setup, as it gives "out of memory" errors on my PC with 96 GB of RAM. Creality servicedesk did email me a different installer which could be installed. I had not seen this option where you could pre-scan the markers and select an area to scan with different settings. Is this a Raptor-X only feature? I will for sure look for it when I'm back home as it really seems like a very useful feature. Edit: I just checked and I did not have the 3.3.13 build installed on my PC, which seems to add these new features. In your video you mention (@4:20 ) there is a 3.3.14, but I cannot find it on the Creality site nor in the release notes. Do you have some test version?
You should do a comparison with einstar or einstar vega, creality vs einstar. Nobody has done it before, and believe me, so many people are looking for that, including myself😊
I've made 4 videos comparing Enistar Vega vs Otter, Shining 3D took back the scanner before I finish the test and they're not sending me the Einstar to review anymore.
Excellent video! Looking forward to see more ReaptorX scanning videos. When scanning object in two parts, top and bottom seperately. I always have quite strong seamline at the border of each single scan. For me this is a sw bug. How do you deal with this?
I wasn't prepared for it to be $3,300 on Black-Friday Seems a bit steep even with the included $450 wireless system (Raptor being $1,200 + 450 = $1,650 with the handle) I'm glad you were able to get your hands on one!
The Raptor is likely to benefit more from the WiFi bridge than the Otter. The Raptor requires a 12V power supply, which means extensive cabling and the need for an additional outlet for the AC adapter. In contrast, the Otter only requires a single USB-C cable.
@ I ended up buying an Otter after watching this video. I’ve been following you along for a while now, great content. $715 direct from creality. With the RaptorX it seems like there’s another round of improvements they can make on the blue light system over the standard Raptor that I don’t want to pay for only to be improved upon for potentially a cheaper price relatively soon. Wifi 6 should be integrated into the device and not an additional $450 on a $1,200-3,000 unit I want to use a device for reverse engineering though and that’s one of my only real options for sharper edge accuracy. I’m going to start with larger scale models like full vehicle scanning (multiple scans) and limbs/torso scanning for now. I did not have confidence in making a decision without your content, thanks for that!
Thanks for making a video of the WiFi bridge handle! I would like to make my own WiFi bridge for my Otter, as the price of the unit is too high. Is it possible you could do a teardown of the handle to see the components on board, and perhaps a port scan of the gateway while connected to the handle WiFi? I imagine the SoC is going to be a fairly common one found on travel-sized WiFi 6 routers w/ USB 3.0 connection. The most important thing to know is how the unit communicates with the software, and how it talks to the scanners via USB. Thank you!
I don't think I can open it up for you, as I might have to return it. But I know that the software does handshake with the handle, it might be hard to make it work together. I've a Ferret bridge Wi-Fi, I can tear that one down if you like.
A teardown of the other bridge would be beneficial too. I would expect the handshaking to be similar, perhaps the hardware too. Does the ferret bridge work with Otter? @@Payo-TensileCreator
Thanks! Questions: 1) can the raptor / raptorx be used to scan without computer? From this video it looks like the phone only serves as a extra screen , not realy a capture device 2) the tracking on the back of the car looks great xith raptor x. The markers seem to be +/-10cm appart, if i do that with raptor i cannot get good tracking. That would be a good test for tracking, plce the tracking markers further and further away from eachother, and see when the different devices can no longer track
1) No, it can't work without PC, it uses GPU for tracking and CPU for processing point cloud. 2) Yes, I can do marker dots requirement for each scanning mode.
Thanks for the video. I'm now using Otter with Bridge. Is it worth the upgrade for car body scanning? Seems a lot better. Could you tell us more about it?
I'll do more tests with a car body scan. It seems like it's made for this. As sharp as 7 lines, but larger capture range, lesser marker require for an area.
@@Payo-TensileCreator Thanks. I agree with you that the bridge is highly recommended but I'm waiting for an upgrade of the software functionality with more controls from the phone.
I asked you a couple of months ago if you would get the wireless handle. You said there was too much Wifi around you and, it would cause to much interference to be viable. I am super happy to see that was not the case. Theres always lots of slightly different channels in Wifi 6, that can play nice together given enough space between them. A bit like bitcoin divisions.
Creality updated bridge Wi-Fi firmware many times in the past months. Now Ferret`s bridge Wi-Fi works much better, before it would be very lagging. I still have stutter sometime with Raptor/Otter bridge Wi-Fi, the houses here are only 5 meters apart, it's very congested.
@@Payo-TensileCreator Possibly the broadcast distance can be dialed back, so there will be room for more connections. Then again 5-6G works on less penetration distance.
If I use marker stickers, the software will remove them, and no trace can be seen. But if I use the magnetic one like in the video. I have to select with rectangle tool and delete it one by one. The software can patch up the cuts when meshing.
Still the best channel for scanner comparisons. No screaming, zero fluff. Pure information. Keep on the good work!
Thanks, will do!
I'm so glad they sent you the raptor x to do comparisons!!!
with they would send me one too :P
Thank you for the honest comparison. We at the 3D scanning community value your tests since they look the most unbiased and professional at the same time.
A hint: Otter is just a face scanning prince. A face scanning king is... Otter in small mode. Tested personally
Your welcome
Thank you for doing the video comparison between the raptor and raptor X. This in-depth is really giving me a lot of information that you want. Thank you again.
No problem!
As always very informative, thank you.
I also received the bridge for the Raptor (pre-order)
About the phone clamp, it is not very usable on a Pixel 7a as you need to position the phone off-center or else the clamp will press on the buttons.
I only managed to use the screen-sharing via the QR-code scan and was not able to connect using the app. However I did not connect my phone to the same access point of the bridge, but rather have my phone connected to my wireless network and the PC also connected to LAN.
On my laptop (Lenovo Legion Slim 5 16ARP9), I managed to get about 40 fps while scanning using the bridge. I did not use the USB WiFi6 adapter on the laptop.
The bridge makes scanning a lot easier and is IMHO worth the money. (at least for the pre-order price)
The driver included on the USB WiFi6 stick cannot complete its setup, as it gives "out of memory" errors on my PC with 96 GB of RAM. Creality servicedesk did email me a different installer which could be installed.
I had not seen this option where you could pre-scan the markers and select an area to scan with different settings.
Is this a Raptor-X only feature? I will for sure look for it when I'm back home as it really seems like a very useful feature.
Edit:
I just checked and I did not have the 3.3.13 build installed on my PC, which seems to add these new features.
In your video you mention (@4:20 ) there is a 3.3.14, but I cannot find it on the Creality site nor in the release notes. Do you have some test version?
I typed it wrong, the latest 29 NOV is 3.3.13
Thank you very much for this review!
You should do a comparison with einstar or einstar vega, creality vs einstar. Nobody has done it before, and believe me, so many people are looking for that, including myself😊
I've made 4 videos comparing Enistar Vega vs Otter, Shining 3D took back the scanner before I finish the test and they're not sending me the Einstar to review anymore.
😂😂😂
Looks like otter is a much better option
Excellent video! Looking forward to see more ReaptorX scanning videos. When scanning object in two parts, top and bottom seperately. I always have quite strong seamline at the border of each single scan. For me this is a sw bug. How do you deal with this?
To reduce the burrs, I'd try to scan the connecting edge as much as I can. If the burrs still there I'd trim it out (if I can) before merging.
I wasn't prepared for it to be $3,300 on Black-Friday
Seems a bit steep even with the included $450 wireless system (Raptor being $1,200 + 450 = $1,650 with the handle)
I'm glad you were able to get your hands on one!
The Raptor is likely to benefit more from the WiFi bridge than the Otter. The Raptor requires a 12V power supply, which means extensive cabling and the need for an additional outlet for the AC adapter. In contrast, the Otter only requires a single USB-C cable.
@ I ended up buying an Otter after watching this video. I’ve been following you along for a while now, great content. $715 direct from creality.
With the RaptorX it seems like there’s another round of improvements they can make on the blue light system over the standard Raptor that I don’t want to pay for only to be improved upon for potentially a cheaper price relatively soon.
Wifi 6 should be integrated into the device and not an additional $450 on a $1,200-3,000 unit
I want to use a device for reverse engineering though and that’s one of my only real options for sharper edge accuracy.
I’m going to start with larger scale models like full vehicle scanning (multiple scans) and limbs/torso scanning for now.
I did not have confidence in making a decision without your content, thanks for that!
Thanks for making a video of the WiFi bridge handle! I would like to make my own WiFi bridge for my Otter, as the price of the unit is too high. Is it possible you could do a teardown of the handle to see the components on board, and perhaps a port scan of the gateway while connected to the handle WiFi? I imagine the SoC is going to be a fairly common one found on travel-sized WiFi 6 routers w/ USB 3.0 connection. The most important thing to know is how the unit communicates with the software, and how it talks to the scanners via USB. Thank you!
I don't think I can open it up for you, as I might have to return it. But I know that the software does handshake with the handle, it might be hard to make it work together. I've a Ferret bridge Wi-Fi, I can tear that one down if you like.
A teardown of the other bridge would be beneficial too. I would expect the handshaking to be similar, perhaps the hardware too. Does the ferret bridge work with Otter? @@Payo-TensileCreator
Thanks!
Questions:
1) can the raptor / raptorx be used to scan without computer? From this video it looks like the phone only serves as a extra screen , not realy a capture device
2) the tracking on the back of the car looks great xith raptor x. The markers seem to be +/-10cm appart, if i do that with raptor i cannot get good tracking. That would be a good test for tracking, plce the tracking markers further and further away from eachother, and see when the different devices can no longer track
1) No, it can't work without PC, it uses GPU for tracking and CPU for processing point cloud. 2) Yes, I can do marker dots requirement for each scanning mode.
Thanks for the video. I'm now using Otter with Bridge. Is it worth the upgrade for car body scanning? Seems a lot better. Could you tell us more about it?
I'll do more tests with a car body scan. It seems like it's made for this. As sharp as 7 lines, but larger capture range, lesser marker require for an area.
@@Payo-TensileCreator Thanks. I agree with you that the bridge is highly recommended but I'm waiting for an upgrade of the software functionality with more controls from the phone.
I asked you a couple of months ago if you would get the wireless handle.
You said there was too much Wifi around you and, it would cause to much interference to be viable.
I am super happy to see that was not the case.
Theres always lots of slightly different channels in Wifi 6, that can play nice together given enough space between them.
A bit like bitcoin divisions.
Creality updated bridge Wi-Fi firmware many times in the past months. Now Ferret`s bridge Wi-Fi works much better, before it would be very lagging. I still have stutter sometime with Raptor/Otter bridge Wi-Fi, the houses here are only 5 meters apart, it's very congested.
@@Payo-TensileCreator Possibly the broadcast distance can be dialed back, so there will be room for more connections.
Then again 5-6G works on less penetration distance.
Great review!
Thanks!
Thank you!
I wanted to buy Raptor but than Metro X came from Revopoint. Which one to choose?
I never try Metro X, so I can't give you any advice. But Revopoint told me they will send me a testing unit soon.
Could you post the helmet scans without post processing?
Upload link in the description. None of the scan in this video is processed, convert to OBJ right out of the scanning software.
How did you delete all the markers from the scan of a car?
If I use marker stickers, the software will remove them, and no trace can be seen. But if I use the magnetic one like in the video. I have to select with rectangle tool and delete it one by one. The software can patch up the cuts when meshing.
upload full tips and tricks
I'll try to roll out more videos.