The Divine Council and The River of Eden

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
  • How will God Heal the Nations?
    Is there a purpose in suffering?
    How did Exile help heal the nations?
    Welcome to another episode of Ring Them Bells!!!
    Dr. Michael Heiser, Tim Mackie, join the conversation and help us answer these important questions
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    Links to source material
    1) The Bible Project POdcast _ Rivers Flowing Upwards - bibleproject.c...
    2) Heiser - Power point Deut 32- • The Divine Council Wor...
    #divinecouncil #angels #enoch #endtimes #gospel

Комментарии • 54

  • @rogercoleman8515
    @rogercoleman8515 3 месяца назад +24

    I have been in insatiable and long season seeking God. Strangely and intermittently satisfied as well as unfulfilled simultaneously. I can't seem to scratch the itch in my longing for Him. I can't find like-minded men of God to sit for hours and have conversations like these.

    • @pattichapman7296
      @pattichapman7296 3 месяца назад +11

      I can’t find women willing to do that either.

    • @ChildofGod-q7j
      @ChildofGod-q7j 3 месяца назад +5

      Same boat. Blessings

    • @jasonleveck8546
      @jasonleveck8546 3 месяца назад +6

      I attend a Global Methodist Church last couple years, after not attending anywhere for over 30 years. We do whats called small class meetings, something that John Wesley and maybe some even before him, started long ago. You might seek this or something similar out, because it's been a great thing for faith building and spending an hour or so with people trying to build faith and brotherhood.

    • @lynnekirkup984
      @lynnekirkup984 3 месяца назад +1

      ❤❤❤

    • @robtball7629
      @robtball7629 3 месяца назад +2

      Everything seems shallow and surface skimming after this.

  • @cheryldavis7813
    @cheryldavis7813 2 месяца назад

    I enjoyed this immensely. I have passed it on to my prayer partner friends. Thank you!

  • @tinahale9252
    @tinahale9252 3 месяца назад +8

    You speak of biblical narrative. Throughout my short time on earth the Holy Bible is like a moving breathing ocean. I would read one verse and return to it later and it's altered. Still aligned with the original yet different in my spirit

  • @dennisburdick682
    @dennisburdick682 3 месяца назад +4

    Praise be to our LORD Yeshua the Anointed One for forgiveness and grace. Amen. 🙂🙏✝️🕎✡🇺🇸🇮🇱❤

  • @cathyblake4645
    @cathyblake4645 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @pattichapman7296
    @pattichapman7296 3 месяца назад +7

    Thank you for this!! It explains a LOT of the questions I’ve had about some of these verses!! I’m going to keep watching for Mike, Tim & Jon to explain more of questions I have. Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel & more, still have me scratching my head!! I’m sure, if I just keep watching & listening, you’ll cover the rest!! This teaching was so clear for such a complicated problem I was having!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +2

      That means a lot. Thanks Patti❤️

    • @pattichapman7296
      @pattichapman7296 3 месяца назад

      @@ringthembells143 I don’t watch many videos a second time, except for yours. I always watch yours a second time & sometimes a third!! They’re so packed with important info that I need to make sure I didn’t miss a thing!! It’s kind of like reading the Bible, the more you read it the more you find & understand!! You guys are the best!! I really appreciate you!! Keep up the great work you’re doing!! May God Bless you all!!!! 🙏🏼🌈❤️🕊🐾

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +1

      @@pattichapman7296 ✔️✌️❤️

    • @timfox2654
      @timfox2654 3 месяца назад

      I love listening to you Guys and also the late Mike Hieser 🕊️

  • @gregmorgan3508
    @gregmorgan3508 3 месяца назад +3

    I now have this wonderful picture in my head how Genesis is related to Acts 2. I also understand the Book of Acts summary as the process of reclaiming the nations.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +1

      This one connected a lot of dots for me as well🙋🏻‍♂️✌️

  • @peg678
    @peg678 3 месяца назад +5

    Wonderful Good News

  • @yeahnothx-e9l
    @yeahnothx-e9l 3 месяца назад +6

    So many good videos! I can't keep up! 😂

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +2

      @@yeahnothx-e9l Thanks🙏 Take your time, Lord willing they are not going anywhere ✌️🔔❤️

  • @user-og2qj8zg6y
    @user-og2qj8zg6y 3 месяца назад +1

    God Bless you!❤️🙏🏻✝️

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад

      WOW. Thank you so very much for your kindness🙏❤️

  • @school-kits
    @school-kits 3 месяца назад +1

    How to you get "the sons of God" (Deut 32:8) from "yiśrā'ēl", everywhere else translated as Israel?

    • @GoldenRuffian
      @GoldenRuffian 3 месяца назад +5

      Dr. Michael Heiser explains @ 7:30
      The Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as the Greek Septuagint, reflect this translation and the "sons of Israel" is probably an addition somewhere in the Hebrew Masoretic textual lineage.
      Additionally, to recap his point, Babel happens BEFORE Israel (aka Jacob), before Isaac, and before Abraham - so how can it be the "sons of Israel" if he doesn't even exist at the time?

    • @school-kits
      @school-kits 3 месяца назад +4

      @@GoldenRuffian Thanks.

  • @carmengale3311
    @carmengale3311 3 месяца назад

    Example, the couple in the bible old testament who sees and speaks to an angel, says he is a man/human like them.

  • @Simeonf7750
    @Simeonf7750 2 месяца назад

    The holy bible says 'Gihon goes to/through Ethiopia' not "cush" get you translation right.
    Ethiopia is mentioned above 40 times in the bible are you also going to replace them all with cush,you can't.

    • @Hiacre
      @Hiacre Месяц назад +1

      Cush was another name for Ethiopia. So was Nubia. (Lands South of Egypt)

  • @dewbye63
    @dewbye63 3 месяца назад

    You mean Crosby, Stills and Nash were right?!

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +2

      @@dewbye63 they weren’t wrong ✌️🔔

    • @gregmorgan3508
      @gregmorgan3508 3 месяца назад

      I am too young to understand what you boomers are talking about. 🎉

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +1

      @@gregmorgan3508😂I’m know boomer but boy oh boy do I love some Classic Rock 🙋🏻‍♂️❤️

    • @in4apenny787
      @in4apenny787 3 месяца назад

      "...And We've got to get ourselves back to The Garden."

  • @carmengale3311
    @carmengale3311 3 месяца назад

    Do you know about emmanual swedenborg writting about angels as once human? He says we become angels after death. How does this fit into Heisers divine council sons of God, watchers, 144,000? Its a deep question.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +8

      @@carmengale3311 Heiser believes that we may replace the rebellious Divine Council one day but beyond the shadow of a doubt the Bible does Not say we turn into Angels when we die.
      It’s really about defining the term angel. In the Bible “angel” only means messenger of God. It’s a job category for a spiritual being.

    • @BentIronBins
      @BentIronBins 3 месяца назад +2

      Yes anyone teaching that steer clear of teachings that aren’t biblical.

    • @tinahale9252
      @tinahale9252 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ringthembells143absolutely never says angels we will become. Angels don't live by free will. We humans are given this gift.

    • @ChildofGod-q7j
      @ChildofGod-q7j Месяц назад

      @@tinahale9252Lucifer and his fallen “ angels” fell? Y? Free will? Just asking what ur thoughts r on that???

  • @rogercoleman8515
    @rogercoleman8515 3 месяца назад

    Hey guys, just my opinion, but I would much rather see you than these illustrations and footage. I could just listen buy the more senses that are engaged the more full the experience. Thank you for all the work put into these productions.

    • @ringthembells143
      @ringthembells143  3 месяца назад +2

      @@rogercoleman8515 These are clips from The Bible Project Podcast✌️ There is no video

    • @joewilson3358
      @joewilson3358 3 месяца назад +1

      Love visual, as well as verbal

  • @theomnisthour6400
    @theomnisthour6400 3 месяца назад

    What many miss is the fact that after El Elyon took a different identity after establishing the division of Nations, and many of the demigods tried to claim "their" god was really El Elyon, when He was moving around from one form to another as part of His self-appointed Messiah mission. Only by knowing the patterns of the first creation can you decode which of the characters in the Bible are really God incarnate, and which others of his 4 primary assistants in the creation pattern, or their more or less "pure" descendants.
    This is why the classic temple has a central Holy of Holies for God the most high, and 2, 4, or more perimeters for the demigods that each city reveres as their chosen intercessors with the most high. When those demigod intercessors lose the favor/anointment of El Elyon, their prayers no longer work, and other more godly nations will often destroy the followers of lesser gods who have broken faith with El Elyon. YHWH is not God, but one of the descendants of Lucifer, God's testy eldest "son". Other deities mentioned, such as El Shaddai, are descendants of the shapeshifting hermaphrodite adversary, Lilith - the arch demon whore of Babylon. Poor monotheistic translation leads to much confusion and worship of demons or failed gods instead of the latest incarnation of El Elyon and His anointed faithful.

    • @pattichapman7296
      @pattichapman7296 3 месяца назад

      I don’t agree with you at all. El Elyon isn’t God.

    • @ChildofGod-q7j
      @ChildofGod-q7j Месяц назад +1

      Form of Gnosticism????

    • @theomnisthour6400
      @theomnisthour6400 Месяц назад

      @@ChildofGod-q7j not really, unless you consider it a sort of super-gnosticism that fills in the gaps and mistellings of the creation story to explain how it is cultural entropy - boredom and the frustration with cheaters and hacks - not physical chaos/entropy, that is the real adversary of God's team in the simulation multiverse. The many-tentacled Cthulhu of cultural marxism's my god "ones" wasn't just invented for the post modernist age. Once you get that the first creator of stable virtual realities was no almighty micromanaging tyrant, but the first father of very unruly generations and tribes of narcissistic narrow-minded brats, you are ready to learn the true religion of spiritual science, and how true evils emerge and seek to destroy all happiness in the co-creative game of souls