Vertical CNC Table and New Spoil Board
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- A year ago, I added four feet of length to my CNC router table in anticipation of adding an adjustable vertical table to the CNC set up. Before I started the adjustable table project, I replaced the spoil board that I had been using for 2 years. I went through several design options for a system to adjust the table and ended up building a ratcheting system that allows me to move the table into position and have it stay in that position. This table will allow me to clamp and hold work at various angles. I will be able to carve the sides of wood turned objects as well as the ends of longer objects.
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That Homer Simpson voice clip at the start had me really confused while I was trying to find what was making the noise! Amazing video as always, thank you for the entertainment!
I hear Homer throughout the video....
@@fevermusicstudio9941 Yea, it's just the one at the beginning was the one that confused me!
same
I knew recognised the voice, but could not place it until I hear it again several times later in the video. I originally thought he was play acting and talking over with his normal voice, but instead he was play acted with homer voice, poking fun with the bed.
Same here. I had music playing in the other room while I watched this video. And when the sound clip played the first time, it was while he was talking. I actually stopped the video because I thought someone was talking outside my house.
I always love those „at this point I thought ...“ moments. Part suspense, part game show it makes me want to find out what will be re-done. thank you again from germany
Your stop motion skills are great!
Speaking for all the "Tubers" we REALLY appreciate the time and effort you put not only into your projects but the editing time you put into your videos. Clearly they are at the very top of RUclips. Thanks Frank! !! !!!
You don’t speak for everyone.
@@GeeTheBuilder NO just 99.99% of the people who appreciate what Frank does. Apparently you are the .01% of the people who do not. To bad for you
Like!
Fighting the temptation to be jealous. I understand that what Mr. Howarth has is not only a shop full of useful tooling and materials, but the skills to design, use and maintain it all. CNC sounds great, even if you can afford it, but then there's the learning to get it to do what you want. This guy makes it look much easier than it likely is.
Once again, sir... thank you for sharing.
Bed goes up. Bed goes down
Not everyone can afford a voice controlled cnc table
Can't explain it
this brought me so much joy
It would be great if there was some way to make the table trigger a recording of "Bed Goes Up" and "Bed Goes Down" when it's raised and lowered.
Cloud goes up, cloud goes down! -HoSi
I'm sure this space doesn't have everything Frank would want but it's shop heaven to me. The synergy between the tools is fun to watch... making parts needed with other tools. I get lots of ideas watching this kindred spirit at work.
LOVED the stop motion! It’s an art form all in itself. Great job Frank.
I don’t understand how the public hasn’t caught on to the premium product that is produced on this channel. This channel should have millions of subscribers. I could watch this channel uninterrupted for hours straight. The precision, attention to detail, and creativity is like none other. Keep up the good work, Frank! I’ll follow you the whole way!!
I enjoy listening to your thought process. With your videos, it's often less about 'how to do' and more about 'how to think'.
I've been binge watching your videos for a week now, I'm no woodworker nor will I ever be, but I find it hypnotizing to watch people create nice things. What amazes me every time is not only the stuff you make, but the planning that must have taken place for the shots and the angles of the camera.
Thank you. It's been a lovely week. Although I'm already having withdrawal symptoms.
May I give some sugestions ? ☺
1) Use some metal washerss between the bolts and the waste bed. More clampingforce and less risk to go into the bed with the bolts.
2) Use, for example, a rubber band to force the locking device/bar into the teeth of the arc. In the top position the gravity doesn't help (as much) to let the teeth fall in position.
Looking forward to your next video! 👍😃
2) Yes, it might vibrate and fall down a step.
What I would suggest is making it with triangle-like shapes instead of rounded. That rubber band would also help anyway, if only for peace of mind, but I think it would work better.
Also, I would have written on both sides some kind of "angle-scale" system, so when the board is not used flat or 90º it would take no time to know what angle it is.
Other than that, great project.
Washers 100%, was surprised he didn’t use them
@@fadetounforgiven I thought alot about scoring an angle guide into the arcs. I decided they would not be very accurate until I got it together. Having the guide read 46.7 degrees and the angle being that would be unlikely. I think It might be more useful to mark and take notes on the arcs for particular projects.
Guust if you use a washer, you loose the adjustability that the slot gives you.
It never ceases to amaze me how your brain works. I am very much in awe of your talent.
Well that was a very elegant yet simple solution to moving the vertical spoil board up and down. Very nice.
I really appreciate your commitment to the "bed goes up/down" joke. Thanks, Frank.
Video goes up, I press like
No, it's the bed, no table, that goes up
You could integrate your 4th axis with your bowl holding lathe jaws to index the workpiece rotation. I like the simplicity of the angle stops. This makes angle repeatable without a lot of fiddly measurement. A treat to watch your work as always, thank you Frank.
It's always nice to have a friend drop by to help clean up the shop....
you're an absolute genius frank, constantly inspire me to be creative to solve solutions or problems. not only in my woodworking but my life
Man, I hate when an overcomplicated design gets beat out by a simpler, better one, too, but your stop-motion and multiple exposure editing makes this one a gem, Frank!
These videos are never long enough. 😡 I could watch these videos all day.
Your videos blow my mind every time, Frank. Thank you.
That's it. Competition is over. Video of the year right here. Right in the first 20 seconds the faint homer simpson reference was amazing.
I love your animations. Your design concepts, the execution, the skill: those things are wonderful. But those animations add an element that really sets your work apart. Thanks again
Your stop motion always makes me smile!
I am very impressed at your editing and post-production work and the fact that you do it all yourself as well as make stuff.
Frank; du hast eine traumhafte Werkstatt! Ich gratuliere dir!
Only draw back I can see to the ratcheting system for the table is dialing in an exact angle. Your limited to its stops but i guess you could just clamp the table if you need to be in between stops for whatever angle. Great video as usual Frank.
It's always a great day when I see Frank in my sub box. I think I smile at the end of every video.
Thanks Frank
Nice work. The little ratchity bit is called a pawl as in rack and pawl.
"Who are you calling a little rachity bit ?" - Paul
Frank you really are an amazing man. You workshop is stunning.
Finally! I get to see what their rotary table looks like! I can't wait to see it in action!!
Everything you do is awesome! from your video editing to your woodworking skills. You are my hero!
Cutting bolts: screw a nut onto it before cutting, then remove it.
Martin. They say that simple solutions are the best, and yours is the best. Not many will admit to not knowing this trick. but I will.
Cheers.
Regards from the UK
John.
Being all-thread, it can be screwed on any time. :) Better than a nut, however, is a die...if you have the right size.
I use to do the same and grind the cut area a little so it wasn't as sharp anymore and then back the nut off.
Good Idea
I can't resist describing my technique for doing this:
1. Thread two nuts onto the rod and tighten them together.
2. Thread a third nut onto the rod some distance away. Now you have two flat points that you can clamp in a vise, and the rod won't move or rotate when you cut it.
3. Cut the rod.
4. File the cut end flat to get rid of the ratty burr, and then chamfer with a file. That will keep any stray metal bits from getting in the way of a new nut.
5. Now remove all the nuts. They'll clean up the threads on their way off the end.
I'm not worthy to comment on frank makes videos but I will anyway. When you cut threaded stock run a nut onto the stock behind your cut, then cut, then run the nut back off. The nut will clean up your threads for you. For extra credit chamfer the cut end first. I learned that from a 4th gen. Oil field guy. High school dropout incidentally. Love the evoulution of the cnc frank, keep it up.
When cutting a thread make sure to put a nut on the thread. You can then take the burr of the cut off by driving the nut over the freshly cut end of the thread. This will make it easier to clean up the cut.
No offence but everyone watching this video knows that. Everyone.
another solution to "clean threads" when cutting with a hacksaw, for example, is to light touch up the end on a grinder, and magically the threads are deburred and easy to thread nuts.
Love the Stop motion video. You obviously love what you do. Thanks for sharing.
Great solution, great execution, great video! :-)
Jeremy we are waiting for ur CNC to come up
It es allready two years since you installed the new CNC ... wow ... crazy how time flies ... cheers from germany, Arne from #kreith32
Ach der der Arne isch auch hier.
Servus
On your all thread run a nut on it past were you want to cut it at , cut it , then take your nut off. That usually forms the thread again . And once again another awesome video Frank .
I love your craftsmanship - both what you build and your videos. Man, you must spend a lot of time editing. Also, Homer Simpson!!! Loved it!
i am excited to see what you do with the addition.
I love your videos! I was almost all 2018 in a hospital and without internet, I went in and out several times to the hospital and only for a few days I stayed at home (once it was just a day at home) and the few things I wanted to do when I was home. If you had a new video and savor it to the fullest. Thank you very much indeed, you were very helpful. I'm almost 3 months old at home and already healthy, just trying to return to my "normal" life (which is not easy)
A big Thank you for all your videos, for me, they are very helpful👍👋
Greetings from Mexico
I use the google translator for translation haha, I put it in Spanish in case you have a better translator
me encantan tus vídeos!!! estuve casi todo el 2018 en un hopital y sin internet, entre y sali varias veces al hospital y solo por algunos dias permanecia en casa (una vez solo fue un dia en casa) y las pocas cosas que queria hacer cuando estava en casa hera ver si tenias un nuevo video y saborearlo a tope. muchas gracias en verdad fuiste de mucha ayuda. ya casi cumplo 3 meses en casa y ya Sano, solo tratando de regresar a mi vida "normal" (cosa que no es facil)
Un gran Gracias por todos tus videos, para mi, son de mucha ayuda👍👋
Saludos desde Mexico
Well thanks a bunch Frank. Homer is now everywhere in my shop...blade goes up, router goes down, bandsaw guides go up, drill press goes down, router lift goes up, chop saw goes down....then my wife walks in and asks 'hows things going today?'...'aw, up and down', i reply : )
Frank, you are the MASTER at cutting sheet goods! Also, love the Homer voice in the background.
Wow! Genius, as always. I really enjoy watching you sort out these challenges. Was also so confused by the Homer voice... great touch! 🤣
Perfect position to cut slot for a yarn bowl, great stuff as always Frank.
The cnc lathe looks awesome!
I laughed when you said that piece “can be a dumb rectangle”. I can relate to that fo sure. If it’s not complicated, it doesn’t show off my EXTREME INTELLECT! Gosh!
This is worth watching for the stop-motion alone, in addition to the great content!
Did you reference the 0,0 position of your CNC when you were creating the t-slots? That way if you were designing something that needed specific clamping locations you could overlay your t-slots with your design.
No, %*#$@*! and that seems like basic CNC best practices that I missed.
Love this idea Nick!
Wow, you must really like making videos, the dedication in making stop motions and animation is amazing. Keep up the good work.
Homer was a huge help on this build.
Love the mechanism you created to hold the bowl. Can't wait for the first time you get to use it!
Dude. Bed goes up, bed goes down. I didn’t think I could love your channel more 😂 Kudos!
So nice of your twin helping you out there
first of all: I really do love your videos! your style, the editing and the fact that you show your “mistakes” just makes it all way more enjoyable for me to watch.
when cutting one of those threaded rods it is a helpful trick to have one nut on the side of the rod that you want to use. after you made the cut you just use a wrench to move the nut over the cut-area (sorry I am “nut” a native speaker). this will help to re-do the threads on the threaded rod.
I wish you a lot of fun with your new vertical CNC table! Hopefully, we will see it in many new videos ;)
Greetings from Germany!
The fourth axis looks amazing!
A few suggestions.
1. Use nylon bolts to hold the spoilboard to the frame. If you do go too deep and hit one you don't ruin a bit.
2. Cut an entrance/exit hole on both ends of the T-slots so you can add more clamps if necessary without moving the workpiece if its covering one end of the slot.
3. Get a cheap horizontal bandsaw from Grizzly, Harbor Freight, or Craigslist for cutting threaded rod and other metal pieces. After a couple of projects you'll wonder why you didn't get one years ago.
4. Check with a lumberyard that supplies cabinet shops and see if you can get 1" MDF for the spoilboards. It will be better quality than big box store MDF, stiffer, and you can resurface it several more times before you spend the time replacing it.
5. Build the storage under the table on the frame itself and put a bunch of heavy stuff in there. It will help stabilize the frame. Some large gussets on the corners wouldn't hurt either.
you're an absolute genius frank, constantly inspire me to be creative to solve solutions or problems. not only in my woodworking but my life :')
I'm excited to see you use this new setup
Thought that went into this, along with everything else you've done, never ceases to amaze me.
The video editing work @ 7:23 minutes is just awesome!!
as always....thanks Frank. I can't imagine how long it takes to shoot and edit one of these.
I'll tell ya...If I ever had crazy money to build a house and any gadget I wanted, you and Samurai Carpenter would be under contract! Great work...
It's always nice to see your identical twin show up to help.
Never ceases to amaze me when people use tools to produce parts and pieces to use with those tools. Stuff like the table bed here and 3D printing accessories for printers, love it!
Ps. Ever gonna dabble with 3d printing?
How does ANYONE give this a thumbs down! Brilliant as always Frank!
Glad you mentioned the fourth axis in the video... I was about to go searching for the video I missed :-)
frank fantastic video especially the stop motion. Everyone has there own way of doing things. Mine would be to replace the vertical board making it a rigid part and make a sliding top so it slides towards your vertical board so when your not using the vertical just slides over giving you your extended horizontal workspace. " Subscribed "
tip, something i saw on a metal working channel ... when cutting threaded rod, but a bold on the rod before cutting, undoing that bolt over the cut will clean up the threads
You never cease to amaze. I'm always in awe of what you come up with!
Great video as usual. One suggestion that I do. When trying to adjust t-nuts in AL extrusion I find using long cable ties as tongues for either side to push it along until the nut align with the hole.
I don't know which I admire most, the projects you produce of the tools you use to produce them. I would love to have a CNC machine. Only two things hold me back, space and money.
Small CNC machines take up less space and cost less money. As a rule of thumb figure CNC costs about $100 a foot. You don't really get a volume break for a while either. Once I saw a vinyl cutter bigger than a basketball court. I should have asked them what it cost. The gantry on it was like 6 feet tall. Like it was that thick.
Wow, can't imagine how long it took to get the stop action of all the waste pieces from the vertical table. Awesome job as always
interesting video, to help save the threads when cutting them to length, thread nuts onto the rod either side of the intended cut. When the cut is complete, run the nuts over the cut end and it will help restore the threads on the rod.
Just came across your videos. Like what you do how you talk things through and edit. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the ideas
Man your engineering skills are phenomenal
This is my favorite channel on RUclips.
The lifting sounds like a roller coaster starting it's accent! Awesome setup!
Your stop motions always put a smile on my face, but when i heard Homer i lost it... 😂😂😂😂👌
When drilling the holes for the screws in the piano hinge you use a bit/drill that seems to make sure the hole is centered. Do you know what that is called/where you got it? Thanks 🙏
Vix bits is what they're called. There are lots of different kinds or brands. Very handy.
Building advanced rolling to realize design. Bravo! And inspiring.
Looking forward to seeing work done on the new tilting table. Great work!
Great video and amazing work 👍 also absolutely love the homer bed goes go and down. Keep up the great work
Nice and simple solution! You could write the angle at the different increments as a way to quickly adjust the table :)
looking forward to seeing the 4th axis, i tryed adding one on my cnc a month ago and was very unsuccessful
Frank love your content as always. Thank you for all the effort and time you put into your videos. I might suggest some washers for all your connections with MDF and plywood as the heads of the screws don't provide a ton of surface area. Thanks and look forward to more great videos!
In this episode Frank discovers the K. I. S. S. Principle You go Frank! Good Job!
My shop is smaller than your CNC 😂👍
Hobbyschreiner Kreuzi same
20 foot shipping container alright!
My shop is more non-existent than your shop!
lol right
same
Frank you could put out a video making a PB&J and I would still be fasciated.
That would be another job for the CNC machine: Spreading PB and J on slices of bread laid out all over the table.
Frank I enjoy your videos perhaps more then anyone other. I respect your intelligence and thoughtfulness and learn a great deal from you.
I think this tilting section a great idea and aid but I have an observation. with the piano hinge being on the end of the MDF there is a possibility to hit it with the cutter head perhaps. If the hinge was flat on the bottom surface of the MDF then perhaps less likely to cause a problem.
Thanks. I did not think of doing the hinge that way. That would work it would just be harder to install.
frank howarth I only thought of it because of the slots cut out in the old tabletop MDF sheet you replaced. Some of the cut lines seemed to go a little deeper. Didn’t mean to offend in any way.
I can't wait to see the 4th axis I have the same machine and have been eyeballing the 4th axis also.
Great job Frank. I really love your mods on this cnc.
I'm sure its been mentioned already but have you thought about making a spot to mount a cheap lathe chuck. You may still need to add extra clamping but it would make indexing easier.
As always amazing. Wish you and your family a happy new year
I could be jealous of your CNC machine....but after watching this, it is obvious I don't have enough smarts to even set it up. Love your vids. table goes down DOH.
Howard, Absolutely amazing design, build and Videography!
If you ever need to cut an angled slot (or more complicated cuts) in the middle of a panel, you may want to remount the adjusting jig on the 4th axis end. That way the spindle/gantry will approach the extending panel to be cut rather than have to run through it. Just a thought from my own experience.
0:44 This shot must have taken forever ^^
I love the stop motion, nothing feels quite like it.