CNC Upgrades
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2021
- I have upgraded my CNC machine. I have been getting new parts from Avid CNC over the last few months and it is finally time to do one big project and upgrade the CNC. I have new pinion gears for the rack gear, I have a new z axis to put on, as well as a new 8.7 horsepower spindle. While I was making these upgrades I also wanted to do a few other things to the CNC machine that did not involve new parts. While I had a lot of the weight off of the machine, I moved it over towards the back of the shop by 4 inches. This will give me a little more space around the machine. I also put on a new 1” thick MDF spoil board which I hope will give me more holding power with my hold downs, and give me more opportunities to resurface the spoil board as I will have more thickness to work with. I also added a bunch of aluminum channel bracing to the table and will be storing a stack of oak wood to dry over the next year or so. This will add a bunch of weight to the table and hopefully keep it more steady as the machine moves around. I have also moved from Mach 3 to Mach 4 for the control software.
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I was waiting for the "bed goes up" and "bed goes down" .... 😂🤣
Me too Roy, it would have been great wouldn't it?
I just said it in my head but it wasn't the same...
Me too!!!
Quite. I am disappointed in him.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
It's good that you and your twin brother are working together in the shop again. I was worried there was some family drama and you weren't speaking to each other.
I was hoping for some Homer Simpson with the end table, haha
Me too!
Bed goes up. Bed goes down.
Missed opportunity
D'oh!
Me too
Anyone else notice how he handled that 1” MDF board?? If memory serves, those things are very heavy and that was a full sheet. Turns out the soft spoken humble retired guy can bend you in half if you get out of hand! 😂
He’s a machine! 😉😂
My back spasmed when I saw him carrying it.
I sure saw it! I have a difficult time managing a full sheet of 3/4” by myself.
In the next shot he was wearing that hand-thing.. :D
Well, he was manhandling gigantic logs in a previous video, described as "the largest piece he could handle safely" or something to that effect. I think it was for the wheeled stairs. Frank appears to be unexpectedly really strong :)
Id love to watch a time-lapse of leveling the table
One trick to counteract the jiggle is to fill the extruded aluminum of the frame with sand. Fill it just so much that it still has some room to move an cap it of with hot glue. The mass of the sand and the fact that it can move inside the Aluminium will greatly reduce vibration and jiggle
My shins would for sure find those sharp corners on the aluminum braces.
I like the subtle flex at 4:19 showing how much you paid for your wrench....we get it, that RUclips money is nice! 😆😉
"we see him rollin'..." 🤑
chinese-ium steel. we really should stop giving them our money.
no doubt a priceless garage sale find
Looking fantastic, as ever! Thanks for the new video and cheers from New York!
In addition to being educational and informative, your videos are some of the most entertaining I know of. Thanks so much for letting us watch and for your excellent video editing!
Thank you for putting this out there. My avid cnc is on order and Im going to change to the 8hp spindle. Your comments helped me make up my mind.
Very interesting upgrade Frank. Always enjoy your videos! Thanks for posting
Nice job on the upgrades Frank! Thanks for always sharing with us!💖👌👍😎JP
What an amazing CNC you've got, Frank. Thanks for sharing your excellent engineering and assembly skills with us.
I’m sure you’re going to enjoy all the upgrades you’ve been waiting so long to install. Have fun!
Great film. Always excellent work. 17:20 remembering drafting tables... : ) Mahalo for sharing!
Good stuff Frank. Nice upgrades!
I have said this before, and i will said it again: when i grow up i want a shop like yours :D
An impressive piece of equipment, Frank. You are truly a master of all things mechanical.
Thanks for sharing this video with all of us here, Felix!
Hope, your arm is well again. Thanks for showing. Regards from Germany.
I'm the only one who was expenting in the first seconds of the video for him to appear with a "pop" ? Hehehe ! :D Thanks for sharing !
I did as well.
As always a incredible video. You make the video so different and special. I look forward to see the new project you will make on this CNC table. I wish you and your family a great week. All the best from Jan in Norway
Thanks for the info Frank.
Just got my 21 boxes from UPS
And your info will help greatly in my upcoming assembly!
Cheers 🍻
Thanks Frank, this was really interesting to watch.
Jeezz... I'm glad ONE of us knew what we were doing.... Another great video Frank (y)
Great video Frank!
Frank, I was taught to immediately seal the ends of your freshly milled lumber with beeswax before storing/stacking to dry. Otherwise the ends dry out much faster which encourages cracking and warping. Sealed ends help the lumber to dry out at an even rate.
I'm impressed with how much use you've gotten out of all the materials that came out of that pool.
Thank you for another great video! Always love to watch your projects. Very therapeutic 😁
How have you watched a 21 minute video in 9 minutes? 😂
@@Kingdomfire1 I watch in very fast forward! 😂
@@jwv6985 😂😂👍🏻
Hi Frank ! Great news ! Cory guided me through acceleration profiles the XY movements in Mach 4 for the machine to shake a little less, and it has made a true difference for me ! (The cutting straying at the same speed)
Thanks, I will have to ask about that.
Do you mind sharing the values you're using on your machine? We got a guide from them, but not any suggested changes. we have a 5x10 pro series with the 3hp spindle.
Always a pleasure to watch when Frank is tinkering in his shop.
Coming here on the recommendation of Jeremy Fielding! Incredible video!
That exposed C channel on the outside if the table looks painful from here.
I like the way you do things. I always learn something new or another way of doing it. I also like that you reuse a lot of things that you have saved earlyer. Everything has another purpose of use. Your Video editing ist great. Many greetings from Germany.
You have A very relaxing voice. It is like listing to A.S.M.R.
WOW! Impressive!
“There’s probably a precise tension to the belt”
A man after my own heart
Always paint the ends of the slabs to sealed them before stored them. Prevent to crack.
Whenever I need to upgrade my CNC, I have to go to the gym.
Oh man, I'd totally forgot the workshop was once a pool!!! That was so long ago haha
I was waiting for a Homer coment on the table going up and down! 😂
Frank, every time my wife catches me watching one of your videos, she slaps me in the back of the head as if to say, why aren't you more like Frank; get out there in that woodshop that we're still paying for and make something. Still, I love watching your videos and my coworkers have gotten used to the constant bruising and my wife isn't putting as much oomph into it as she used to. Cheers.
Awesome as always sir! I hesitate to point this out, but conventional wisdom says to never use MDF as stickers when stacking wet wood, as MDF and moisture don't get along, and your stickers will gradually become shims over time... Also, with oak I would be concerned about marking due to oak's tannin content etc. Enjoy the new spindle!
That outer horizontal bracing looks like an absolute shin ripper.
Marius Hornburger just put a new spindle on his CNC and had some very clever techniques to get it perfectly aligned which he uploade to YT. Wish I had a space like yours to work in.
Holly Batman,your awesome
I was so disappointed in not hearing Homer say the table goes up the table goes down. Lol 😂
A new Frank Howarth upload, tis a good day
Nice.
I'll suggest again, the C&C computer probably doesn't need to be close to the machine.
Putting it in a dust free area and running a cable may be a better solution.
Not sure if it's worth the time and effort, but it's a thought.
You should look into moving that Pc to a cleaner location or install passive cooling on it.
Great video as always!. If you did have some sealer on the oak exposed end grain I couldn't tell in the video but think that would help a lot with the checking.
Pure genius
Jeeze you got King Kong on there! LOL
Bravo!
Beautiful. Time for a new driver bit that isn't bent. ;-)
Hey Frank. I built a CNC PC rig for a friend a few years ago. They sell thicker dust filters very cheap and it will probably prolong your computers life. Search 'dustproof fan protector computer', it's usually under $10 and you can keep that dust from destroying your fans and building up in the heat sinks.
As always, fun to watch. I always love seeing you do two things at once.
I am curious, I have noticed that you haven't been using the dust collection, How come?
As a video editor I’m curious what your data storage workflow is for your footage to be able to pull up a ten year old clip-presumably -on a whim. Love your work!
I used to operate one of those tables at a shop in Burbank, and it did tend to shake. Granted, I'm sure the guy who owned the company was responsible for it being out of tram, square, plumb, level, etc.
You and Marius Hornberger should collab. Of course, we will have to wait for saner times, first.
Project idea: A house with filters for the CNC PC.
Have you thought about putting the hinge for the vertical portion on the bottom instead of in the joint? Then you could have it at the same level as the main table surface and not have the hinge in the way. You could then even resurface the entire table surface (including the vertical extension) at the same time. I know if would take some reconfiguration of the hardwood piece, but I think it would be worth it.
Hi ... interesting build! ... you're lucky to have such a great machine! I was under the impression, could be wrong, that the surface of MDF has a greater hardness factor than the interior because of the high pressure manufacturing process ... if you intend to resurface the spoil board from time to time, you may lose the out-of-the-box dead smooth glassy surface ... maybe this is not a concern? ... just wondering .... Cheers Farmer John, Ontario, Canada
I am really enjoying my new machine with the new upgraded sensors. I am always walking into the old ones that stick way out. I did make some brackets to protect them but now I just smash my hip on the brackets. Thinking I will upgrade the other machine soon as well...
"Yes Sir, I know saving these oak timbers from the U S S Constitution are taking up room, someday we will need them. Sill true today.
Btw an impact driver will not torque twist your wrist like a combi drill will. A 12v one will suffice for light to fairly moderate tasks and are lighter too.
With an 8hp motor I would think that you could use a flycutter for large surfacing operations.
I agree
Metal shop!
8.7 HP spindle fort woodworking!?!? I must have miss heard that! I have a 3hp router and have never bogged it down.
Was I the only one waiting for "bed goes up" "bed goes down" when reattaching the end table ?
I want to play in Frank's shop. Do you have a calendar for available time slots?
NASA does woodworking.
when you remove the electronics box for the old spindle you can see in your half wall a plug hanging halfway out of the socket...
Great video. I enjoy understanding your whys & how's to address certain issues.
What softwares are you using: CAD ? And (CAM) translator (from CAD to g-code) to control the router ? Is it a 3D packard ?
I'm considering getting a CNC router but no one explains what SW tools they utilize. Your answer will be appreciated !
Cool!!👍👍👍🇺🇦
if i look at the speeds you usually go.. the 2.2kw was more then enough. i usually go full depth in medite 313 mdf.. so 18mm in one go or birch ply 18 mm in one go. what most people do with cncs .. is not going fast enough. you can easily go a few meter a minute full depth.
time to get a "big boy" bit (4" or 6" diameter) and see what sorts of depths of cut you can actually take. Maybe get it to make real chips and not dust. I wonder if the new spindle has speed control.
Frank, great video. Your drill though! Doesn't it drive you batty that it's so wobbly when you're using it? The chuck doesn't seem setup right at all. I bet Milwaukee would send you a new unit that is setup right, because every time you drive in a screw, or take one out it's noticeable. All the best!
you might already know but all of what you call bolts are screws. bolts use the support of a nut two hold two materials together and a screw uses a material to hold itself and another material together. they're called machine screws
Watch out using compressed air to clean out your compressor, I killed one doing exactly the same, guess it generated static in the line, maybe grounding the nozzle might prevent it
Adding weight to ours is our next step. We just replaced the spoilboard and added their vertical workholding kit.
Is that still the same bent bit you had when you built the machine?
Glad it is the bit. I thought Frank had dropped his drill or something.
@@cgstadler
IIRC he said that he only realized it was bent when he watched the video, not while he was building. funny, that.
but if i had a bent bit, i'd replace it.
yes
@@frankmakes
why didn't you replace it? or try to fix it?
Why would you make it smaller (12in > 8in)?
If you're not using it now, you might need it later. Always useful... Right?
Hi, Have you considered plastic nails (shot through a nail gun) to hold down items on your CNC table? If hit, the bit cuts through without damage and removal of the pinned down pieces is an easy lateral tap.
You have much 3 phase machinery. I would like to know what kind of phase converter you use. The CNC comes with its own converter? You run single phase 220v to it at how many amps? I'm looking to expand my machinery. Seems there are more options for 3 phase machines.
Ok, I haven't gotten through the whole video yet, but WHAT!? 8.7 HP (~6500 watts)? Does it require 3 phase power? Because even at 240V that's almost 30 amps. Or am I looking at this wrong?
Hey Frank. Caught wind of your channel from another. Was curious if you're doing commission work with that big router.
He needs to put a filtration system on his CNC CPU. Better yet, an actual filtration box with an all-in-one should be preferable to a standard CPU chassis. We have CNC Machines. Why not build a system chassis out of hardwood and then install upside down? I personally have 3 filters completely blocking all incoming dust to my CNC CPU. What I didn't cut out, I printed with my 3D printer. I mounted the back of the motherboard to the front for easy access. The DVD and all buttons with plug-ins are also mounted at the front.
Frank, I really enjoy your videos. May I ask, are you sponsored by AVID? Thanks
no money, but they send my free equipment.
@@frankmakes Thanks for your honestly, how much does a set-up lie that cost?
It’s interesting how you use a drill instead of an impact driver.
Probably because the torque of the impact driver is not as controllable as the drill. In a few instances, you can hear the sound of the clutch when it tightens.
@@tobyb9559 disagree. The variable speed control on the impact is quite precise. I just think it works better for spinning screws and bolts. My opinion obviously
A variable clutch drill/driver is definitely the way to go with machine assembly... Setting the clutch to the bolt torque you need is more precise, and it will be much less likely to cross thread.
@@biguprochester Mine doesn't have a clutch, but based on your comment I looked on the Mkita website and I see that the new ones do. I will make sure to seek that out when I go to replace mine.
What cad software should I get for this machine? I own a Mac.
If you put cheese cloth over computer intake a lot less dust get in tks
> 8.7 hp spindle
> steppers
it's time for servos chief
How are you powering that new spindle? 3phase? How many amps?
I was wondering about this too. You get the full 6.5 kw (8.7 hp) of spindle power on 3-phase, and get 27 % less spindle power (4.7 kw) on 220 volt single phase according to the Avid website. Any comments ?
🇩🇪: dankeschön
I'm sure other people are asking already, but what happened to your arm?
Hello, where can i get a bit like this 19:25 for T-track?
on your computer change your fan from in to out
Hi Frank! What happened to your wrist?
1:47 "that's what she said."