Spin Clean Record Washer Review
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- A review and demonstration of the Spin-Clean Record Washer System. Spin-Clean is an economical and effective way of cleaning Vinyl Records.
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Nice review, only thing i can add as an owner that made the critical mistake and had to change the brushes, never ever push the brush pads together to take out excess water, the inner pads loses height and density then when used again they no longer hold the records snug when used, just let the brushes air dry and never press or squeeze them if you want them to last.
So i tried the spin clean. I was skeptical i will admit. Impressed is all i can say after cleaning so far up to 80 lps. No regrets! And yes... the records absolutely sound better afterwards.
Cool, glad you are getting good results with your spin clean! There are a lot of skeptics and maybe it is a bit overpriced but you cant argue with the results.
I use the spin clean along with KAB EV-1 vacuum cleaner. Some form of vacuum cleaning is essential imo, regardless of scrubbing method.
I've heard that adding a rinse stage improves the process quite a bit. Some people even buy a second Spin Clean with only distilled water added for rinsing.
thats stupid. Better to just clean the records in soap water. all of them. Empty the spin clean. Fill it With water only and clean again and dry. The way smart People like me do it. 2 spin cleans is nonsense unless you have a partner who is cleaning NeXT to you. 100% meaningless to have 2 spin cleans.
It’s not meaningless if it’s faster and more efficient. Sorry you can’t afford two Spin Cleans, friendie
A little trick I've learned that makes the SpinClean easier to use, is that I put just a very tiny bit of Dawn (or other similar product) on the roller spindles. Makes spinning so much smoother and keeps rollers from jumping out of their slots. Yes, a tiny bit of Dawn makes it into the wash, but I get zero spots using distilled water.
That's a good idea, thanks!
Hey Wes I just wash my thrift store finds in the kitchen sink with soap and purified water, rinse them in purified water then dry them with a towel and let them dry on a dish rack for around the time it take me to clean the outer sleeves with a disinfecting wipes. If the inner sleeve looks okay I just reuse it... If its trashed or really dirty then I take an inner sleeve from a record that is not making my collection (I sorta of do the vinyl survivor with my thrift store finds as well). I also buy scratched records because I have in my experience found that just because it scratched does not always mean it will skip on you. 90% of my scratched records don't even skip If you have a decent turntable. The ones that skip sometimes don't even have a scratch. I find that if your on a tight budget this is the most economical way to clean a record.
+Average GamerYT I mostly clean records in the sink nowadays as well, a paint pad and some Dawn works wonders I have found. I still use the spin clean for a final rinse in distilled water and the wipe dry with a microfiber glass cloth. That is givning me the best results right now.
Don't knock this thing if you haven't tried it, it works great, even new records come with some dirt on them, I play a record and then clean it and there is a huge difference in the way it sounds.
I have a Spin Clean and like it .
Fact is, most vinyl crackles are caused by micro dust (which is everywhere) in the grooves and static which attracts it
A vacuum sys might remove some dust but not the static and will in fact create more static. The Spin Clean removes the dust and the static .... as well as clean it.
I still use mine, at this point I have put well over 1000 records through it, maybe over 2000.
Gave my copy I recently picked up of Polish Night Music by Marek Zebrowski and David Lynch a spin on my turntable tonight. I got half way through side A and realized there were specs of white dust-like debris all over it. The LP had been stored in a MoFi sleeve for the entire time I've owned it. I ran my carbon fiber brush over it a few more times hoping it would come out but it was resilient. Nothing I tried could remove the debris, so I gave up, furious as I wanted to listen to my album but didn't want to risk permanently damaging it. I have another album that's a similar story, my copy of Tomorrow's Harvest by Boards of Canada has just about the same issue. Resilient specs and debris that simply won't come up no matter what scrubbing, brushing, or (hand) washing I do.
The issue of static can be subsided with my MoFi sleeves but ultimately they don't help but for a moment. Would a Spin Clean solve my problem? I love vinyl but it's seeming like static and stuck on debris is a battle I simply cannot win. My best sounding and hassle-free albums are my vintage ones, nothing sticks and a quick brush with the carbon fiber is all it takes.
+Dan Gutsman The liquid bath does help with the static though it does always come back, its just part of vinyl. Maybe as records age they loose that some, I don't think much has changed with the formula. Have you looked into an anti static gun?
+SupraWes I have partially, but I feel cleaning them would help to remove those stuck on particles as well. So this is why I'm looking into a spin clean. I did just order a cork mat so that may help at least partially. It seems like mostly this stuff needs to be cleaned out at least once, but the reason I can't get it out is because the static comes back so quickly with my carbon fiber brush and keeps it stuck in. Living in a small college-esque dorm room, I have limited space and resources to really give my records they attention they deserve.
how good is the cleaning result?
I have a small collection of vinyl LP's (mostly rock music) that I bought back in the 70's and early 80's, and recently inherited my fathers vinyl collection of mostly classical music. My LP's haven't been played in more than 20 years since my home was in a minor flood that was deep enough submerge the bottom 2"-3" of my LP's which were stored in the bottom shelf of my stereo rack. I recently purchased a new turntable to be able to play these records again, but obviously needed to thoroughly clean them first.
I looked at purchasing one of those expensive vacuum record cleaning machines, but really didn't want to spend that much cash. I came up with what I think is a better solution. I use the Spin-Clean to clean the records, but instead of using the included drying cloths to dry the records, when I remove the record from the tank, I put it on an old turntable and use a "Vinyl Vac" that I purchased for about $30, while manually rotating the record. After drying the first side, I pick up the record, use the Spin Clean drying cloth to dry the turntable platter, then vacuum the second side of the record. It works great with my small shop vac, which probably supplies more suction than a $200-$500 vacuum record cleaning machine. It gives me the best of both worlds, with a total immersion cleaning of the record, followed immediately by a vacuum process that sucks all the remaining fluid and dirt out of the grooves, drying the record quite nicely in the process. All this for a total investment of just a little over $100. Not bad.
what attachment do you use w your shop vac? thanks
Did the records not warp when you had that flood?
Hi Wes. This was a great revue. I am going to look into these further. I'm not quite ready to take the plunge on a cleaning machine yet, but one of those might be good. Well certainly better than the sink!
Thank you, this does them up nicely. If I wasn't already using a vacuum system this would be perfect. Over time with more A-B comparison I may switch entirely.
I love my spin clean!
Nice Wes. I made up your vacuum system after watching your other video and it works great also.
I have a different brand that came with a drying rack built in / stored on the bottom, works well.
Hi There! The Spin clean is working well cleaning, Thou after about 10 records, I found that the rollers keep climbing out or become lob sided.
I have had that issue, try rotating in the opposite direction when it happens. Good luck.
Weird all this cleaning frenzy. In the early days you used a cloth! It was probably useless but we didn't go to these extremes. However, I think it's a good idea to clean your vinyl. Interestingly most of my LPs are 40+ years old and in excellent condition. I used a discwasher brush, stylus cleaner and Zerostat and these worked very well for me and still do decades later.
You'd be amazed to see all the stuff that comes out of record grooves. Carpet fibers, etc.
i do all that too and it wasn't enough back in the day and it's not enough now, even new records are snap, crackle pop. I'm gonna try out this Spin Clean thing.
Very good review, Wes. I think for most people, this is all they really need. From what I understand, you can use a coffee filter to help extend the life of the fluid, but it is so cheap, I don't see that being worth the effort. Will you use your method as a second step after auditioning new records?
You could filter out the dirt sure but the instructions say the fluid is bad after a week so I am not sure what kind of shape it would be in chemically. I think it's some sort of flocculent. Even if you made a new batch every week and just kept it constantly at the ready it would only cost a few dollars per year. I clean everything prior to listening so even the stuff I end up getting rid of is clean. I think I would use this as a cleaner for new purchases that I don't want to dig out and set up the whole vacuum system for. Also as a pre-clean for those really nasty records.
Great review Wes! I love my spin clean
Thanks, it really is a good system!
Wes, nice review!
One day I will try and get one and do a head to head comparison with my routine and see how it stands up. :)
Thanks, I think in your case it would be an addition to the process. I would start the really dirty records in the Spin-Clean and them move them to the vacuum system.
I would like to try one and see if it is anywhere near close to my process. I have my doubts but love to be wrong. ;)
Great review, as others have already said. I must say, I love the bat'leth and the ships in the rafters! Are those from the Playmates line in the 1990s?
+Lincoln P I think so, they are not mine. They have lights and sounds.
I think the attraction for alot of people apart from price is its quiet compared to vacumn cleaner machine . I don't have an issue with this..as I back my vac machine against couch.but yeh. First thing people tell me when I say I have.machine..omg .. so noisy. They sure clean recirds well tho. My vcs 2 only cost 470$ aus last year on sale too ..was a no brainer.
The more time I spend cleaning records and trying different methods is there is no one way to do it. You have to approach each record individually and address the kind and amount of "dirt" it has.
i use a dish rack but that wire rack looks like it will work better! too bad ot doesnt look like its available in store.
Nice review, Wes! My cleaning method was adopted from yours and I love it. But I've been somewhat interested in the Spin Clean, too, just out of the convenience it looks like it provides. Are you going to be making the switch over to the Spin Clean or are you sticking mostly with your DIY method?
Right now my OCD side has me sticking with my DIY method before a record get filed away in the collection. I have however been using the Spin-Clean for newly opened records or to quickly sample things before they end up in the inbox. Mark says some of his audiophile buddies use it as a pre wash and I think thats a good plan. Sometimes records are so dirty that I wonder if I am doing damage scrubbing them with the paint brush.
SupraWes Well the spin clean also uses brushes, i think i like your system better.
good review though.
Cheers
Great review on this Wes, I'm now thinking of getting one of these in the future. Like you said it easy and quiet and compact. Thanks
Would you advise using a carbon brush before the spin clean to knock off any loose dust/paper particles first?
It wouldn't hurt to do that.
Hi Wes, a great demonstration. Here in the Uk the spin clean costs £80 which is about $130. Do you think it is worth the money? It seems a little expensive if the results are no better than a more manual way
For clean records it is worth the money. You will be surprised how much better even a brand new record will sound after cleaning. If you don't have the means to put together a DIY vacuum system, pick one up.
I've heard from some that the enclosed cleaning solution leaves a residue on the vinyl that actually creates more noise. Wondering if you encountered that. Also would love to know if using just water without the solution is better. Thanks.
I have not had that issue. No you cant just use water because the surface tension of water alone is too high and it will not reach into the grooves, you need a wetting agent of some kind to break the surface tension.
Great video! Can I ask where you got your plastic sleeves?
Thank you! The sleeves are from www.clearbags.com Type "BLP" in the search box to see their selection of record sleeves both inner and outer sleeves.
Does the liquid ever get on the labels? I'm afraid runoff would get on the label while I was spinning it.
It doesn't get on the labels, it follows the grooves around as you turn it. Even if the labels did get wet it wouldnt be a problem they dry out just fine. I often clean records in the sink and the labels get soaked and I have never had any problems with any of them.
I hear it can create static after. What's the cheapest anti-static method? a rinse?
+Brian Smith Rinsing would do it, or a Zerostat gun, I didn't have any problems with static after though.
All these people demoing this cleaner never showed before and after result on how cleaned the records are. Makes you wonder if it actually cleaned it.
If your really on a budget you can clean the inner sleeve with disinfecting wipes (make sure its not to wet) and then dry the innersleeve by putting an asprin bottle in the center.
+Average GamerYT I hate paper sleeves, I keep them for originality but they are tough on records and hold a lot of dust and dirt and fibers.
If you are using a device like this they don’t work. My video actually shows a record being cleaned manually with actual video of dirt coming off the record.
Is the water dripping down on the label?
It tends to follow the grooves around, the labels don't seem to get wet. Maybe a drop or two but it won't hurt them. I get a lot more than that on them when I use my vacuum system.
THE PADS ONLY GOOD FOR 500 LPS IF YOU LUCKY ....WHERE CAN I BUY THE PADS AND HOW MUCH FOR THEM?
Any dealer who sells the Spin Clean kits should have extra pads and fluid for sale.
Mine comes with black brushes!!! it's not yellow like yours!!! Why mine is different ? i order it from Amazon.
Maybe its an updated version. I don't think the color of the brushes would matter, there aren't different sizes or anything.
SupraWes yes, maybe.. Thank you.
hmm anyone had problem with the spin clean ? The black wheels doesnt stay in position. falls in to the water all the time
+achmutt10 Sounds like maybe there is a problem with one of the parts of your spin-clean. I would contact them.
+SupraWes thanx!!! :) btw, i wanted to do this what yore doing with vaccum cleaner, do i have to use a special vaccum cleaner for that ?? thanx a lot from sweden
+achmutt10 awesome videos !!
+achmutt10 It's not absolutely necessary because you are using only a little bit of liquid. If its possible use a wet/dry vacuum, I picked up the compact one you see at the beginning of this video for around $30.
+SupraWes
ok thanks a lot, have a nice evening !
I now see my guy was doing it all wrong
I keep waiting for a klingon to pop out and grab that sword of the wall
and nice model of that imperial cruiser
I hope not
I tend to be very weary of someone who doesn't pay for a product and also fails to include any negatives in their review. Makes it seem like a product couldn't be better, when paying for a plastic tub to get your labels wet seems like a bad idea in the first place. Maybe for 10¢ records like you did, but theres no way I'm submerging my $50 records in solution and drying them off in a wire rack. It all screams scratches and excess solution on my vinyl. No thanks.
Dave Reed Maybe you should look at more reviews.
Dave, believe it or not, the labels don't get wet. The grooves of the record hold the fluid to where it doesn't drip straight down. It works really well. I've used it on hundreds of my LP's, and the process has never scratched any of them. Plus, most that weren't damaged, only dirty, sound better afterwards. If you can't afford an expensive vacuum system, this is the next best thing.
Not to be negative, but these things are a joke. $80 for a plastic tub??? You can buy a lot of used records for $80. You can clean them by hand with a lint free cloth just as well. I just got a used VPI for $350. Its amazing. If you're that much into vinyl just save and look for a used VPI. Also...I was told when I bought my table to never use liquid on records unless you have a vacuum machine.to clean it off. I always hear the "if you're just starting out" excuse for getting one of these. Don't do it. Its a waste of $80. This thing should only be $19.99. Peace;-)
@@nocturnaldivision Exactly! 80 bucks is a small price to pay for convenient cleaning
This isn't a review. This is a sales pitch. Wash them in the sink with a soft natural bristle brush and you get the same result. For pennies.
What Brush do you recommend? I have been using a siding brush, but it leaves little bits of "lint" from the brush on the lp. I still use vinyl vac, but I wonder if the vv can remove the leftover lint from the grooves?
Spin Clean infomercial. Spin Clean is an overpriced plastic basin. The drying cloth that comes with the spin clean is flimsy and cheap.
BEWARE! if you love your records, please NOT use the Spin Clean, why:
1. that pads push the dirty and particles inside the grooves!, you can scratch the record.
2. dry with a towel? the idea is NEVER touch the record, so if you want dry use a vacuum.
3. water on labels? nice way to wet and destroy the labels!
so how clean the records in a professional way, well you need buy a real RCM $200+, liquids, brushes, etc.
Wrong. I've been using one of these for years and it works great. You have to be smart. If records are super gross, rinse off majority under sink before using Spin Clean. I've never scratched a record or damaged a label with mine. The water never touches the label, even when removing it from unit. Soft, clean, lint free microfiber towels will not scratch records while drying them. Yes, a VPI or similar product will clean better, but the Spin Clean is by the best device under $100. Great for people that can't afford a $300+ vacuum unit.
"Wrong" "Never touches the label" "Rinse off in the sink first" Blah. You should take your own advice and be smart. Did you miss the part he mentioned about it pushing the dirt into the grooves? Because that's exactly what it does. It has to push it into the grooves by the way it is designed. Even after doing this method you can put your newly cleaned record on the table, drop the needle, and within 20 revolutions the needle will have all the crap from the groove building up on it again.