BEST Vinyl Record Cleaning Machines | Spin-Clean, Pro-Ject VC-E, Pro-Ject VC-S2, Audiodesk Systeme
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2021
- The purpose of this video is to go over how we think you should keep your records in the best possible shape. There are actually several aspects to it we will cover.
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With record sales across the world continuing to grow, we thought it would be fun to go over some of our favorite ways to take care of your vinyl records. If you are into buying vinyl, you have probably found out it's a really fun hobby, and you can quickly spend several hundred dollars or more on your favorite music.
One way to save some money, and we must say the hunt is a lot of fun too, is to search for used records in good condition. But whether you are buying all new records, used, or a combination of the two, before you know it, you will have a pretty substantial investment in your growing collection.
When we see someone who has more than a few records with just a simple brush to clean them, it makes us very sad. They are missing out on so much! Usually, it is just a lack of knowledge in why it is important to properly clean your records and how to safely do it.
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Great info here! I learn so much from your videos. Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Finally somebody knows how to use the VC-E correctly! Great!
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic video. Vinyl care is so often overlooked.
Totally agree!
I have the Pro-ject VC-E and it really does do a great job,I have rediscovered my Lps and some are 50yrs old, and after cleaning, are as good as the day I first took them out of the sleeve when I bought them..This is a great vid to show the differences of some popular cleaning machines..The only gripe I have about the VC-E, is it does not have a cover, like the larger model does, as an optional extra..but it`s easy to use, and does the job.
Thanks for sharing!
Great job!!! Very professional. Thanks.
Thanks!
Thank you very informative. Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
This was super informative. I am new to collecting vinyl and will be investing in a good wet cleaner as I'm a fan of hunting used records.
Smart move! Thanks for watching
Great options! Thanks for sharing
You bet!
Great video Leon!
Glad you enjoyed it
Have used the Project VC-E for a couple of years now. An easy mod I did was to tape a narrow piece of tape to the top clamp from the center out so I could count the revolutions ( the ocd in me). For applications, I always do side two (or B) first so when I turn it over the blower will further dry that side and side one will be face up on the TT. I have not done batches but have never had an issue with moist air out the vent.
That's a good tip as it is hard to see the spins. Thanks for sharing
I use Spin-Clean. It's a lot of work for a large collection You can see the dirt at the bottom of the cleaner. This thing really works great.
Thanks for sharing, for the money, it works just great!
Yes it does....do that large collection in small amounts and it goes quickly. Spin Clean is simple and very effective.
lets just hope that dirt is not actually the vinyl itself
@ Nemanja Milosevic It’s dirt AND vinyl pieces. The Spin Clean wears down the other edge of your records, but I hasn’t ruined any of my LPs or affected the play. Interested buyers need to know.
I use the spin clean after using my Vinyl Vac to suck out the dirt and it does a excellent job. My records are very noise free!
Thanks for sharing!
Love my Degritter. Game changing
Glad you love it! Thanks for watching.
Hi. Great overview video. I purchased the Pro-Jet VC-S2 after watching.
It did a great job cleaning the records, but two flaws in design. 1) There’s nothing to catch the overspill as you put the cleaner on the record - it ended up running down the back of the machine by the cord. 2) The top metal clamp that covers the label has a foam rubber ‘gasket’ that allows fluid to seep onto the label and I ended up damaging every label on every record I cleaned. I used LPs of little value as test subjects and glad I did. They refunded the cost and said “Oh, sometimes production flaws happen.” To which I’d say, “That’s what quality checks are for.” I didn’t get a replacement because they use a foam rubber and it is inherently absorbent.
Sorry you had trouble, there is a bit of an art to applying the fluid, but once you get that down, you will not have either of those two issues.
very informative!
Glad it was helpful!
I use 2 spin cleans, one with chem and the second with just h20. Does a great job. You can also clean a record in less than 30 seconds, which is a plus! if you are cleaning large amonuts of records.
Great idea, the water wash is always a plus. Thanks for sharing!
Love my VC-E. Very easy. Have had it for a couple of tears now. The ultrasonic cleaners interested me but more time consuming and way more costly. I’ve always wondered if I should try a stiffer brush though other than the ProJect one. I saw someone using a nail brush etc.
We would suggest you stick with the brush it came with, but keep it clean along with the velvet pieces and replace them when they show wear. The VCE is fantastic for the $$ and does a great job
Awesome video thx
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video I own the the Project VC-E machine (I did at one point owned the original VCS machine the one that was made out of that compressed wood but, sadly it leaked on me so they upgraded me to this one) I too was a little miffed that you had to put that plastic flex disk underneath, I like the Idea of the machine that it just grabbed on the label! So I made a vent for it cutting a piece of soda bottle & taping it on there to vent it out. Sure it would have been nice if they put the vent on the side like it's brother!! I was even think of drilling a hole & putting the vent on the side.. But, the vent I put on the top works. My question is which machine makes the least noise? Thanks
Paul, nice idea. When we tested the VC-E seemed quieter to us, not by a lot, but noticeable. Thanks for watching and commenting
Great video
Thanks very much
Thanks for sharing! Informative video!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video,very informative .
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great video, thanks. Does the VC-E have the same motor and powerful vaccuum as it's big brother?
Thank you. The one on the VC-S2 is louder, but we are not sure it that is due to the inside being larger or the way it is vented. They both seem to dry off a record equally fast. Thanks for watching
While these are neat. I still have a 45 year old Disc washer with brush and cleaner and its still in its original box! Informative video.
That was the product that made people start thinking about cleaning their records, thanks for sharing.
How come you did not include the Degritter, also one of the best if not the best record cleaners, in this comparative test?
I may have to get A VC-E eventually. BTW, any news on the Techniques 1210gr Black restock? Been waiting to order that turntable from you guys.
Thanks, its a great machine. Nothing yet, they have been painfully slow to arrive. We appreciate your patience.
Do you have a link to the white brush you used to apply fluid to the VC-S2? Seems like i should get a couple of those.
Project has it on their site for $39, we should be adding it to Audio Advice soon. However, it will take thousands of records to wear it out. You can easily hand wash it with mild soap and water, then give it a good rinse. Thanks for watching pro-jectusa.com/product/vc-s-record-brush/
I've found the Record Doctor V to be a happy medium between the Spin Clean and the Pro-Ject models. It is a little primitive, design-wise. But it gets the job done and if you can work around it's little quirks (hand turning, loud noise, substantial heat after five or six record cleanings), it's a great value for the money. I think the best advice however is to avoid thrashed records at any cost if you can help it. Also, you should make mention of the fact that any record cleaning machine, no matter what the cost, will never eliminate deep scratches embedded in a record's grooves.
Thanks for sharing, yes scratches are hopeless, but it is amazing how a wet cleaner can take out so much grime.
I have used the Knosti Disco Antistat cleaner for about 5 years and I found it really good, Europe’s version of the spin clean but I decided to use a record cleaning machine, the Pro-Ject VCE , I found that the section was good but the air vent would soon cause problems and I had to use the “12” plastic protector to avoid water splashes, I also noticed water residue at the start of the record and on the run out so I decided to take it back , might use the Record Doctor now !
After using both the record doctor and the Pro-ject VC-S2 ALU, the project wins by a mile not only is the platter rotation easier for cleaning the project is whisper quiet compared to the record doctor. That sucker is LOUD
Thank You for this great Video! Full of useful information! I am about to purchase a Cleaning Machine - but had no idea which to choose; thanks to you - I now know! :-) By the way; you have really nice hands that I had difficulty taking my eyes off. :-) I do hope you didn’t mind my saying; I am alone here - but I am blushing... 🙂
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! Can you estimate the weight of the VC-E for shipping?
Thank you! We have free shipping :) www.audioadvice.com/pro-ject-vinyl-cleaner-vc-e
Hi, do you guys ship the revolution home theater recliners to canada?
At this point, no, sorry.
The Project VC-s2 Alu is a great RCM, it will outperform half-assed ultrasonics like the Humminguru and KLAudio that only use distilled water and no physical agitation. The Audiodesk is still superb at a higher price.
Yes, the VC is awesome. Thanks for watching and sharing your comments!
I got a Knox Gear which is very similar to a spin clean but also comes with a drying rack. It is also a bit cheaper. I used it the first time last night and one record that was unlistenable and while still lots of noise it was much better. I had already done a semi wet clean on it by microfiber as many record stores do.
Good to hear! Clean records just sound sooo much better and will let your stylus last much longer!
Many thanks for this. Can anyone give an honest view on the spinclean - is it worth it, when contrasted with fluid, a microfiber towel, and a bit of care? Thank you!
You could probably rig something up similar to the spin clean but the convenience factor is so much better on the SpinClean. Thanks for watching
The Spin Clean is worrisome in that it may first move the dirt around in the grooves and actually do damage. After all, nothing is suctioning the dirt out in the cleaning regimen. Thoughts?
It is not as good as a vacuum system but it can make grimy records playable. Thanks for watching
Do the pro-ject machines accept 10"/78 rpm and 7"/45rpm's?
Not really, the clamp would cover some of the 10" 78, it does not not have a 45 adapter included, but one that clicked in solidly would probably work.
I've heard to clean brand new records due to factory debris. I can't imaging them needing an insanely deep wet clean since theyre still NEW, so, what could one recommend for new ones?
New records do benefit from wet cleaning. Thanks for watching
My recommendations are super glue, windex, rust remover, wet and dry 40 grit, Drain cleaner, high pressure washer.
You might as well sand blast it too! Thanks for watching
I just fill any empty slots in the dishwasher after dinner 👍
and lye
3D print a cover that redirects the exhaust ... Like the one I printed for my ender 3 to make the exhaust blow forward instead of up... Also keeping stuff from falling in....
Great idea! Thanks for sharing
May I ask how many times the brush can be used
Great question, it really depends on the condition of your records. When you start to see it fray, it is time to replace it. But most people should get 200+ cleanings out of it. Thanks for watching
I’ve been using a VPI for about 17 years. It has revived many an old classical LP, and even resurrected some thrift store purchases. Do they still make VPI?
Yes they do, they make a good machine as well, its about double the price or more of the Pro-Ject we go over, but it works great. Thanks for sharing
@@AudioAdvice I just checked. Wow! It's pretty much doubled in price since I bought mine! Were I in the market now, I would probably go with the ProJect. I like the vacuum dry.
Hi,this method, goe away the clicks and Pops.??
Wet cleaning a record will reduce noise usually, but there is no way to get rid of scratches. Thanks for watching
I’m very happy with spin clean and then vinyl vac to dry
Thanks for sharing
What about Nitty Gritty? It is similar to VC (vacuum based) and cleans both sides simultaneously. My friend recommended it but I haven't seen too many reviews to make a decision. Does anybody know anything about that one?
That is a nice machine too.
@@AudioAdvice Thanks!
The Audio Desk Systeme Vinyl Cleaner is expensive, but it is superb. The best way to afford one is by partial ownership. If you’re in an Audio Club, or simply know some vinyl nerd friends, split one among several guys. That way, you’ll get it for a week/month at a time, can clean all your records at once, then pass the machine on to the next owner. I’ve seen it done!
Thanks for sharing, that is a very good idea.
I've found out it's a great hobby but it's challenging keeping the records clean.
yes, it can be, thanks for watching
Thoughts on Degritter and HumminGuru?
We have not tried those two, thanks for watching
I've used both the Audio Desk and the Degritter. While it did a fantastic job when it worked, you don't hear much about the build issues of the Audio Desk. It's built like a tank, but unfortunately that means you can't open it up (without great damage being done) to replace small parts. I had two pumps break on me with the Audio Desk. Both times fix costs were pretty steep (hey yes i know the cost of the product itself is ridiculous). The repair costs, coupled with the fact you could not replace/repair a part yourself was the deal breaker for me. After the second break down, i shifted across to the Degritter. Nothing but a pleasure to use. Very adapable as in can change time of wet cycle, drying cycle or total cycle or even just run one cycle without the next. Very few moving parts that need to be replaced. Filters are small and cheap and easy to make yourself if need be. Easier to clean 10"/7" records. It tracks total cleans and reminds you in intervals when to change water, clean filter etc. Does it cleaner any better/worse than an Audio Desk - i don't thing so. But the build and adaptability make it superior in my eyes. The bigger questions is does it do a better job at cleaning vinyl than the other MUST cheaper methods - yes i believe it does. But the biggest differentiate factor it has is the ease. Drop in a vinyl, press a button, within 5 minutes you have a clean and dry record you can drop the needle on and play. You just can't beat that... if you can afford it!
Can these cleaners be used on the old bakelite records?
To be safe you should probably just use distilled water, thanks for watching
what about 7" singles with the spin cleaner???
You just move the rollers for 45's. Thanks for watching
Je kan gewoon de vloeistof op de plaat aanbrengen, zielig gedoe om het op het borsteltje te doen😮💨
What about Degritter?
We are not a dealer for Degritter, but it is a good machine. Thanks for watching
I had a spin clean. It works really well. Still, I got bored of cleaning records many at a time and seldom buy many at once anymore. I sold it. There is never smoke in my house and I hold my records correctly and handle them properly. So. No record of mine is cleaned more than once. I used distilled water in the spin clean. Now I just clean a record under the tap. Yeah. Residue argument. I think my records sound really good after a thorough clean in sink. Dry them properly. Spin clean is better if you have the patience and buy a lot of records at a time.
Thanks for sharing! If they sound good then that is all that matters!
I’m a college student who is struggling to buy 1 record per month. I will never be able to afford an ultrasonic cleaner, at least not in the next 5-10 years. Spin clean is expensive for a hunk of plastic, but it works immaculately
The good news is you have a lot of years ahead of you to enjoy this fun hobby! Thanks for watching
Really? I wasn’t impressed with the results TBH.
The spin clean is still incredibly expensive for what it is. Sells for $160 in my country.
Interesting, its much less here
Spin clean applies way too much force to the record and if you don't clean out the pads and replace them regularly, you are basically grinding your records down with accumulated dirt and the worn out pads. Use bright light at an angle and you'll see the damage.
Yeah , the Disco antistat is much better!
Klaudio one and only vinyl cleaner. Period
That is a nice one, but they appear to have discontinued it, their site shows it as an archived product. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I use equal parts thumbtacks, gravel and bees in Kerosene, applied counter-clockwise in a circular motion with a lobster. Don't apply clock-wise, that would be ridiculous.
Ha Ha, thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice Just messing around. Thanks for your video.
the Loricraft 6i is the best record cleaner. no heat applied to the records like ultrasonics.
Thanks for sharing! We will have to check it out.
I'm gonna get one
If you have a decent collection they are worth every penny! Thanks for watching
Definitely second rinse
Yes, we agree
gem dandy is the best
The vcs 2 is a good machine although I got it for the blink and you'd miss it 470aus $ sale. Otherwise I was going to buy spin Klean.
Thanks for sharing!
I put them in dishwasher, replace washer fluid with baby shampoo and turn of hotwater. it way easier
That would normally destroy the record label. How does that turn out for you? Also the heated dry cycle could warp them.
Well f..., Sure would have been nice if you included the prices of each item
Sorry, they are all linked in the description.
You said to use distilled water but you used purified water?
Either should work.
just use the pressure washer you use for car washing, should be cleaner
Ha Ha. Thanks for watching
Anyone told you you look like John Branca, former studio engineer of Michael Jackson?!
spin -clean is O.K. you can make your sink do the same the other machines are for stores where time is important -I Had a Huge Collection at one time and cleaned everone by hand with a mild detergent & distilled water and they all sound good I handeled all my records with cotton gloves-most Dirt & grease comes from your own hands-Sounds silly but clean your hands with soap & water with alcohol this will all bacteria & grease before a night of listening & occionally wipe hands with lysol wipes during handling records/ It will save a lot of cleaning down the road trust me/ OH one last thing Dust your equiptment & room
Thanks for the feedback and for watching.
I've been dying to ask this question, but haven't had a chance to ask anyone. I'm almost 60 so I grew up with vinyl records. My question is, why on earth do people still play vinyl records? The snap, crackle and pop used to drive me nuts. CDs were a godsend and now you don't have to clean anything! So...why????
Vinyl has a different sound than CD. Many people prefer the pure analog sound of the recordings done before the mid eighties. For recordings done in the digital domain there really is no advantage to vinyl. But when you hear a good pressing that is all analog on a great system, it is pretty spectacular. There is also the social aspect of having people over to look through your records to reminisce and the ability to hold the album art in your hand. Thanks for watching
If you have good condition vinyl and learn how to clean your records properly and have enough humidity in the room to mimize static you won't hear much snap, crackle, and pops at all.
@@BubbaBigDude Great point too. Thanks for sharing
CD's sound artificial, synthetic, not real. Records have warmth and depth of sound, with feeling and emotion. That's my take. Always hated CD's even though I have many. But I have more records - over 2000 😉
@@Rocketed12 Thanks for sharing!
what do you think of these new ultra sonic cleaners ? is it worth it ? @Techmoan has done a video on that ruclips.net/video/pj2MbDpP-HA/видео.html
We have only tried the Audio Desk, which is fantastic. Thanks for watching
For nasty records, I’ll clean them in the Spin Clean and then on the Record Doctor V
Thanks for sharing
@@AudioAdvice my goal is to get one of the Pro-Ject RCMs, the bigger one. The exhaust coming out of the top is mind boggling stupid lol. Unless they intended it to aid is drying? I have no clue.
@@davethestalker We are not sure, it does not blow anything but air until you clean about 3 records in a row, otherwise, they work the same to us. The Spin Clean pre rinse for nasty is a good idea since you can pretty much bathe the record.
@@AudioAdvice I like to use my Record Doc longer than they suggest. I go three rotations forward and three back. I also do a rinse afterwards. A double LP would be like doing 8 records lol. When it released a few years ago, the original was around 500 bucks. I have not looked at them lately, I’m not in the market yet. My guess is, hopefully they reduced the price of the smaller one to $250-$300 to saturate the budget market. They probably just kept it at $500 and made the new one $750. In this economy they would move more units and have more profit if they lowered the price points. We shall see when I start looking. I just haven’t had the extra cash to pull the trigger on that.
The plug on my Record Doctor V won’t stay in. I have a folded paper towel underneath to catch drops of liquid. I don’t think it even goes into a bladder or anything other than the interior of the box. The rim of the hole is protruding out like hemorrhoids after some Flammin Hot Doritos or Wendy’s Spicy Chicken Pringles!!! It’s not even high quality MDF or definitely not treated plywood.
Maybe SWMBO will allow me to get one this year. I would definitely play more records. It’s a pain in the ass to do them manually. They thing is also stupid loud! I have to use ear plugs or headphones to protect my heating! It’s almost as bad as a riding mower! When I first got it, I made the mistake of cleaning one record without hearing protection. I had never played that record before and it sounded like something was wrong with it!
Love the video, I don’t see any sort of need for an ultrasonic RCM. The original manual Record Doctor V does a good job. I just want higher quality materials, better results, and more efficient at a reasonable price. Pro-Jett has never let me down and has a wide price range for their turntables. I upgraded my 2013 Debut Carbon as far as I can and I traded it for an mmf-5.1. Which I am quite satisfied with. If I had the money I’d get an mug-7.3 with a 2m Black or even a Bronze. I have an upgraded 2m Blue on the Music Hall and the Pro-Ject. Or, I could butter her up for a Fanatec GT DD PRO at $700 and I don’t think that comes with the power boost power supply or load cell brake. SWMBO doesn’t even want me to get the GT7 PS4/PS5.25th Anniversary Edition lol.
As a seller of record cleaners I would cringe at someone using only a simple brush to clean them because they probably will not buy any of my record cleaning machines.
Fair enough!
Remember do not wear Rings when cleaning records!!😂😂
Thanks for sharing!
I wouldn't want to try the spin clean. Some of my records have razor sharp edges.
Maybe one out of every thousand records we see were cut incorrectly and have a sharper edge, but not so sharp as to cut you. Use gloves if you are concerned. Hope this helps
Only a madman would have designed the exhaust to blow out onto the record. Makes me wonder what else that we can't see is badly designed.
It only impacts things if you clean about 6 sides. The machine works so fast, most people just clean an LP before playing. We still feel it is the best value wet cleaner we have ever seen.
Nop.....already after one side cleaned starts sending some vapour on the other side. Need to redirect the the vapour with the plastic disc on the hole or use some water pipes.....what a strange design by project!!!
maybe they thought it provided something of a drying function ?
You don't need a machine at all. You only need a lot of demineralized water 😉
If you are willing to go through the hassle, yes, you could do it that way
Have a shot of whiskey and spit and polish. Done.
Ha Ha, thanks for watching
The spin-clean fluid is not that good I tried using it and I still have crackles then I put distilled water in there with a tiny amount of alcohol redid the record and it was so much better😀 do not use spin clean fluid!!!!👎
We haven't experienced that issue, but thank you for watching.
@@AudioAdvice it's not just me, many people have experience they're liquid just not being that good🤔
Cleaned more than 6,000 records 7" and 12" I work in a record store dealing with a collection that goes back to 1988.
Nothing better than elbow grease and a lint free cloth for Foxing mould etc.
Also cleaned Jamaican press records (reused Vinyl pellets)
Dude showed as an example a record wrapped in PVC ... Nah Never store your vinyl with PVC , plastic.
Imagine using this machine for 6,000 plus records Not practical.
Vinyl buddy is my go to!
PS:Id never touch vinyl with any brush, its useless for LPs the grooves are too small for the brushes , waste of time.
Your way is far far better than theese Strange expensive things. We also use ultrasound shing totally clean five at The time. Even vinyl given up due to dirt
use distilled water
100% agree, I think we said it several times
Uh yes, he said that... notice the bottle of distilled water in the video.
You have no idea , do you?
What in the world do you mean? These are all great record cleaning machines.
Billy Mays would have made a mint off vinyl junkies.
Not to mention Ron Popeil
Just point to the best one please talk after
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching.
Pro ject record cleaner. Nice...I really liked mine! Almost perfect!
Mine worked for 3 months or maybe 100 records before it get broken. People in Pro-ject think that I have no warranty rights because I bought it online in another EU country.. I also live in the EU but obviously, Pro ject thinks that warranty is for pussies.
We are sorry you are having trouble and sent your comments to the US Project importer hoping they can put some pressure on the EU service team. We have good service in the US. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice Wrong! Please don´t assume you know what I am into. It is better to ak. I post it anywhere I find the name Pro ject VC-e to tell potential buyers who are they dealing with if they choose this brand. Don´t expect you or anyone other to do anything.
Those channels are watched worldwide so I am of no interest to know which channel is purposed to which market. It is, after all the notorious Pro ject. World wide rock swindle. The greatest after the Sex Pistols.
@@AudioAdvice It came on top again and only now I see I have missunderstud what you said to me. Sorry for my response. I was (not just) a bit upset with what is going on about my warranty and further, I a hurry I have missreaded/missinterpret/misstranslated your answer.
I know that damage is already done from my side, but wish you to know that I see it now.
Regards!
@@zerowaf Thanks, we appreciate that. This has made it pretty far up the EU Pro-Ject ranks, if you will send us your email address to web@audioadvice.com, we can forward that to them so they can contact you directly
@@AudioAdvice They did. I will become another vacuum motor unit to my doorstep. Of course, they expect me to build in that motor unit. I sure can di this and I will do that, but there is still bitter taste because I must repair the unit myself altough they will send me just the part that is broken. Imagine what if I can not repair it myself even with original service part?
This is still apsurd, but I will take it as it is as I need that record cleaner. Otherwise I would not buy it.
However, apreciaze your kind support. It is interesting that you across the big pond have more understanding than the Pro ject headquorter which is about 350 miles away from my house.
Vinyl in general is a money-sucking business. Use CDs or digital content, get superior sound quality, less hassle and save money. Don't buy into the hype.
Come on mate, you cringe when you see someone cleaning their vinyl with a brush? That is so annoying to hear that, not everybody can afford a fancy cleaning machine. Also some people will have bigger priorities than buying one of these, like having children.
The price of the spin clean is about the cost of two new records. Yes, the others are more, but if you start buying vinyl, you'll soon have a lot tied up in it and it makes sense to keep them clean. Thanks for watching
deionised water is better it's even more pure. distilled water has impurities in it's still.
I'm better manual clean is the disco antistat the original machine.
I don't like that method the cleaning either going one way and then the other way, a rocking motion forward to backwards and slowly rotating it 3 to 6 revolutions. keep the Brussels... should be goats hair, from collapsing and keeps them optimally straight better penetration, and 4 to 5 drops of soap but only soap for washing cars without the wax don't use dish soap. some 99%isopropanol can be used 10% won't do any harm to vinyl. but ethanol can damage vinyl make sure it's isopropanol rubbing alcohol only!
anti-factor wetting agents leave a residue behind what can be hard to remove
WASTE OF MONEY!!!
Degritter Mk II
That is another good one
@@AudioAdvice #1
Spin Clean is waaaaay over priced and for me did a sub par job. 100 bucks Canadian for what? Don't be price gouged for plastic meh cleaner.
We feel its a pretty simple to use all in one solution, yes you could construct something yourself for less, but most people just want to clean their vinyl. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts
I designed three different machines. Nothing on the market like mine. And I can tell you, they're doing a better job than any of these. Can't give more information, because I don't have the patent yet, but I believe in a year I'll be on the market with all three machines. Besides those created my own range of record brushes, and record cleaning fluid with the help of my brother in law who's a chemist professor. Did the testing as well. Checked all the records under a microscope. What these machines are capable of is nowhere near to my results.
Can't wait to share it with all the enthusiasts.