I watched a History channel documentary about Rome and apparently they talked about racism the whole time and said the only people at the time who had slaves were the Romans. Complete rewriting of history.
@AugustYou just posted that "Scandinavians have NO MEMORY OF BLACK PEOPLE IN (YOUR) COUNTRIES UNTIL THE 1960s"? That is clearly false...which is why people can't trust in your opinion about Cleopatra and other historical facts.
@@thomasreaves588 You will not score well here... just accept it. Egyptians are not black, Vikings are FAR from black, and Cleopatra was NOT black. Nothing wrong with being black. But the influence that blacks had in past culture and ancient history was minimal. It's better to focus on more recent developments, the present times, and validate achievments of the moment.
😂😂😂 I laughed so hard at this imaging my professors face when he saw my grandmas name included in the citation section. He doesn’t even let use biased news sources or Wikipedia.
@@danirichey8313 Wikipedia is horrible. I started contributing to Wikipedia last year and quickly got the hell out of there as fast as I could once I caught on that the vast majority of the admins / senior editors on that site are EXTREME far-leftists (and when I say EXTREME Far-leftists, I mean EXTREME to the point where they make Twitter far-leftists look normal). A great example of them going insane would be the Wikipedia page for Gamergate (there are so many lies on that Gamergate page on Wikipedia and if you try to edit anything there, even if you have a credible citation, they will erase your edit and threaten you in every possible way, sometimes even threatening to investigate the IP address of the person they don't like... and they have actually done this to some people. It's freaking creepy). Also, I noticed that even many of their entertainment related pages are lacking info (especially pages for individual video games and even movies and comics) because they will delete anything from a user they have it out for. Anyway, Wikipedia sucks. For movies and TV shows I use IMDB (which is 100 billion times better than Wikipedia). For video games, several RUclipsrs are much better at giving out more accurate info, even though Reddit can be very valuable for games which are more on the obscure side and also for games that RUclipsrs might hate but certain people on Reddit might love. So for video games, I use a combination of Reddit and RUclips together. For comics, certain sites that sell comics actually provide really nice info for the comics they are selling. For more important stuff like history, politics, astronomy, medical related stuff, etc, almost any other website is better than Wikipedia.
Depends on wether or not her grandmother was two thousand year old woman who discovered the fountain of youth and actually lived through the age of Mark Antony, Cleopatra, and Caesar and managed to be in the same vicinity as her. If that's the case than she'd likely be a better source than all the statues, coins, painting, and descriptions from official documents that describe her as looking Greek (basically white). So I mean.... it's clearly not TOOOO far fetched right?
Thank you, Brett, for discussing this. As an Egyptian man, I want to talk about something other than the Queen Cleopatra movie, as I believe it is merely one small side of Afrocentrism. The history of Egypt has been the subject of manipulated pseudohistory. Although Egyptians, since the time of the pharaohs, have ranged from light brown to dark brown skin (sometimes pale), the idea that we were a monoracial group is absurd and harmful. Even darker-skinned Egyptians are distinctly different from Sub-Saharan Africans, and rightfully so, since we have the biggest natural barrier between us lol. Our language, Coptic, has survived and even influenced our Egyptian-Arabic dialect. Our celebrations, like Sham Ennessim, have endured for thousands of years. Egyptians, whether dark-skinned or light-skinned, are Egyptians, and nobody can claim our history other than ourselves. It is absolutely terrible that our history is being pulled into woke cultural wars.
At least Greek people are also offended by this like we are. Cleopatra was our queen but she had a Macedonian ancestry so you also should be feeling what we might be feeling when this came out..
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy Because Greece is part of the "WOKE" EU…that’s why! The People care, but the people in charge DO NOT !!!! Plus, Greeks have so much History that Cleopatra is kinda an afterthought for them. But the ones that know History are obviously pissed off!!!! 😃👍
Willful ignorance. If you don't know something, or just don't believe it, you can say whatever they hell you want instead. They aren't being tested on it, so being wrong to them doesn't matter. If people dropped Netflix because of it, then it would matter to Netflix, but these people would already have been paid. Race, gender swapping or even changing character histories in fictional works is one thing, this is just scary. People will see this and think it is true. Netflix needs to label this as fiction. Hopefully a disclaimer at the beginning, saying the show took Creative License, with history.
This is a quote from the only historian from a white Greek man and he described Cleopatra and her family as mix race people not white... Strabo states "Three classes inhabited the city (Alexandria in Egypt): first the Aegyptian or native stock of people, who were quick-tempered and not inclined to civil life; and secondly the mercenary class, who were severe and numerous and intractable..; and, third, the tribe of the Alexandrians, who also were not distinctly inclined to civil life, and for the same reasons, but still they were better than those others, for even though they were a mixed people, still they were Greeks by origin and mindful of the customs common to the Greeks."
Well if you give your grandmother testosterone she will probably change her mind: when researchers gave women testosterone they became more skeptical than before and when they gave old men testosterone they became LESS religious, not more
My grandmother would run after me with intention of beating the shit of me with a stick if I ever thought of making babies with a black-haired woman, let alone African or Asian. I am thrilled to imagine what kind of thrashing would Cleo's father get if he did that lol
@Demand Peace Give it a break. Idk what it is with this new wave of wokeness, but it’s tiresome and lack lustre. Ask people who actually study DNA and work as ancestry analysts (like Ancestral Brew who is on socials and doing DNA breakdowns is his job if that wasn’t clear). But if you ask these people they will tell you the vast majority of Ancient Egyptians (including most of the Pharaohs) were not black at all, infact the ironic part is that modern Egyptians have more Black African ancestry. ☠️ Look at pictures of the Coptic people (the closest relatives of the Ancient Egyptians and still speak a unique language that is surprise, surprise descended from Ancient Egyptian). Coptic people have various different nose shapes, but many of them have Wide, larger noses yet they are not black. Please stop trying to speak on SWANA/MENA history when you know nothing. We don’t won’t your contribution, leave us alone.
It should be noted that in Egypt, people were equally angry about a blonde actor playing an Egyptian Pharoh in a local TV series and that series was cancelled. For a lot of us Egyptians, this isn't about hatred towards blondes or blacks, but about making sure our history is accurately represented.
@@abdelhamidmetwally2266 four ancient mummies have been recovered and found to have fair/blonde hair. This is scientific fact. Modern day egyptians migrated into the area and have zero connection to the ancients. They lie about every bit of history and laughably think the pyramids are only 4000 years old when they're in fact 12 or 15 thousand years old, they've been ransacked dozens of times and only more recently inhabited by nomadic cultures who have tried to assimilate into the egyptian culture, but they guard any information that denies them their history, rewriting it all in the process.
Denying her Greek heritage also takes away a huge chunk of _why_ her story is so amazing, momentous and remembered to this day. It wasn't just that she was a fearsome and strong female leader. It was that she was a foreigner, who through that strength and determination as well as her beauty, intelligence and the fact she was the _only_ known Egyptian leader to actually speak to her people's in _all_ of their spoken languages at the time (Egypt had mnay different languages present and she could speak them all. 10 languages in total) made an entire country fall in love with her and accept her as their Queen. Honestly the more you learn about her, the more impressive a woman - a human being even - she becomes. Aside from marrying her younger brother, but we can overlook that since it was political as well as fairly common in those times for members of higher society. And a big part of what made her so impressive _was_ that she was Greek, not Egyptian.
Im Greek and Arab and its very annoying to see our accomplishments get stolen. Both Greeks and Arabs have given the world so much in sciences, religion, culture, medicine, technology and more and its just rude to claim credit for what you have not done.
Exactly! When my ancestors in NW Europe were living in caves and wattle huts, the Greeks and Arabs were inventing alphabets and mathematics. And yes, I learned that in school.
THIS! I have so much respect for these people as they were pretty much the pioneers for today’s technology and were so innovative it’s insane how intelligent and powerful they were mentally physically and spiritually
Omg! In history back in my days in the 90s it was drill into us that Cleo is Greek descendant she is mixed. And the Arabic folk were mathematics and because of them all the knowledge we have in western civilization that we thought was dead, gone it’s because of the library of Alexandria and the smart Muslims whom translate our work and created the sciences and mathematics so when we found the library again we could translate all of our works and new ones for math, science and medicine what happen to this kind of cooperation?
My Ancestors were waring against our selves in Western African Tribes and kings ,queens and chiefs 1,000s of years ago while the Greeks and Arabs philosophy and science and medicine
Even if you claim that Cleopatra was Egyptian (which is not historically accurate), most Egyptians are not "black" even though Egypt is in Africa. They have more of a middle eastern look.
that's modern egyptians, the original ancient Egyptians were of black heritage. Edit: for all of you saying I'm just saying stuff, Ancient Egyptians were black ( karu/Eelam/ Tamil / sub saharan.) Most African countries speak one or two ancient Egyptian words also. Kaku- an ancient Egyptian word or Kalam- a tamil word. Or (Get to gather timbers kat maram/Katiu maran) Also the ancient figure ishtar also known as siwan/ siwas, was worshipped in South Africa and other countries therefore it makes sense for black africans to talk about ancient Egypt. With ancient nubian culture having strong links. Even kemet (black land) Also, the ancient Egyptians wrote in their own artifacts that their ancestral homeland was up the Nile, meaning South. For example In Hatshepsut's Tomb accounts of the expedition to pwenet. (Eritrea/Ethiopia as per the genetic link matching that area) There is no documentation by Greco-Romans or Ancient Egyptians that indicate they migrated from a northern region. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. Ps: This has nothing to do with Cleopatra. We all know she's Greek. Here's a few other things: the oldest symbol of the Ankh was found in Ghana, people don’t understand that the whole of Africa was involved in the development of ancient Egypt, Imhotep himself came from the Twa people.. White Mission director Professor Alejandro Jiminez Serrano discovered in that the pharao's shemay's atamology was of black nubian descent as well. the Cultural traditions of Ancient Egypt with the rest of Africa have a cultural continuity. There is no comparison with the middle East. The wearing of leopard skin was a Cosmological expression of Symbols relating to other black Africans. The linguistics of Ancient Egyptians clusters in close proximity to West and Central Africa and not the Middle East. Study the Wolof vs Ancient Egyptian language. Want more evidence? Egyptologist Cheikh Anta Diophad invented a method for determining the level of melanin in the skin of human beings. When conducted on Egyptian mummies inside the Museum of Man in Paris, this test indicated that these remains were of Black Africans “Lepsius canon,” distinguishes bodily proportions of various racial groups categories the “ideal Egyptian” as “short-armed and of Negroid or Negrito physical type.”
As an egyptian I just want to say a few things. 1. A documentary is meant to be historically accurate and Cleopatra was macedonian greek...its not complicated. 2. African americans have been attacking modern day egyptians for years calling us invaders and colonizers which is incredibly racist and offensive. 3. Egypt does not adhere to americans standarda on race. In america you have 2 races. White and non white, which is absolutely ridiculous and not how most people in the world identify. Egypt is made up of many colors and we are all egyptians in this beautiful melting pot but genetic studies have been done and have shown that most modern day egyptians carry gene e-m78 which is native to north east africa. Also no offense but most americans are not historically aware and have no idea what egyptian history is even about. Its not that egyptians hate that she is black..its that they hate the lies and the inaccuracy and also did make a big fuss about the Gods of egypt movie that was all white actors as well as when Elizabeth taylor played her. Egypt is for egyptians alone.
@Bobby's Channel This is not something an average citizen has control over. It's very unfortunate what's happening to Nubian land. But this doesn't excuse this theft of our history sorry. Your argument doesn't make sense.
@@bobbyschannel349 you don't make any sense. These nubians still aren't african americans, they aren't YOUR people, they are OUR people. They do not look like you at all, they don't have the same features. This is another proof that americans don't know anything about egyptians and how bad their racial concept is. This weird categorization of people based on skin tone is totally racist and came from the white people who enslaved your ancestor and yet you guys still acknowledge it as real ?
@Bobby's Channel That's cause you keep trying to appropriate their culture and black face it. Just because Kush, and Nubia once conquered Egypt and placed thier own kings as Pharoah doesn't mean that the original Egyptians were black. How about you people, (and yes, I mean "YOU PEOPLE") all you ignorant woke American liberal socialist; put down your rainbow flags, BLM protest signs, smart phones with all your Insta tiktock and Twitter likes, and pick up some god damned books. Preferably read one on biology, history and one of Thomas Sowell's books of economics. And for fu*ks sake please stop the woke navel-gazing! We're all tired of hearing it and so is the rest of the world.
This is a quote from the only historian from a white Greek man and he described Cleopatra and her family as mix race people not white... Strabo states "Three classes inhabited the city (Alexandria in Egypt): first the Aegyptian or native stock of people, who were quick-tempered and not inclined to civil life; and secondly the mercenary class, who were severe and numerous and intractable..; and, third, the tribe of the Alexandrians, who also were not distinctly inclined to civil life, and for the same reasons, but still they were better than those others, for even though they were a mixed people, still they were Greeks by origin and mindful of the customs common to the Greeks."
@@ndennant Modern day egyptians carry the north african E strain, more specifically the E-M78 + V-22, basically the very exact same strain that has always been dominant in Egypt since ancient times and all the dna studies proves this again and again. Egyptians are not arabs.
Normally I don't take offense to stuff that doesn't effect me, but I take great offense to Jada Pinkett Smith changing Cleopatra to a black woman! Everyone should be offended by this! It's our world history! Cleopatra was an *incredible* woman that all woman still today are fascinated by! She wasn't black, she wasn't white, she was Egyptian! That's such a HUGE part of who she was that by changing that one thing, you change who Cleopatra was entirely! The audacity of Jada P.Smith is disgusting!
There's something about that "lazy lids" expression that both enrages and disgusts me. In my experience, it's a very accurate indicator of narcissism and sociopathy.
americans are the most narrow minded people on earth. africa has different original inhabitants, it’s not just the black people. if you were to ask them who the amazigh people are and where they’re from they’d start glitching.
As a Persian, I would like to say all the love to the people of Egypt, the Arabs and the Copts. We have a long history with each other, a history full of love, battles, science, inventions and achievements 🤍
You just reminded me of the black Persian in one of those Hollywood movies. I don't remember if it was "300" or another movie. I was a child when it came out, and I was so confused. I was like "since when are Persians black?" 😂
My mom is Albanian, which is right next to Greece. She’s gotten many comments on how she looks Egyptian, which just adds to the bizarreness of this series. I don’t know why people have to change history to make it more “inclusive,” rather than just making it accurate.
@@silentstorm3467 well, illyria and albania did share the same land and the illyrian tribes speak a very similar language to modern albanian so no its not like saying cleopatra was black
I am Egyptian, and while cleopatra and I don't exactly share the same race or descent she was still one of the rulers of my country long ago, one that we studied in history and is well liked and respected to this day, so honestly I am offended by this
I have a bit of Aegean islands aka Greek island and this kills me she is mixed if they wanted to be inclusive they could have gone through her bloodlines to show she has alot of culture within her
and so you should be ...its wrong....one of our historical figures...Anne Boleyn was played by a black woman a couple of years ago.....netlix allowing entitled race baiters to do what the want just for bucks is so wrong....they need boycotting some more...they are losing customers all the time because of what they make and release
I agree (Algerian here) I don’t understand why Egyptians are just left out of this story ! It’s like they took a fascinating story from the Egyptian history and made it their own ! And now they are debating about it 🙄 I understand you feeling offended… I would be 🫤
I'm a half Egyptian highschooler living in Egypt and this was honestly infuriating Even the history curriculum here makes it very clear that Cleopatra was Greek I love how they keep talking about representation yet start race-swapping historical figures or popular figures in general in TV shows and/or movies, It's backwards isn't it?
Inclusivity in the west means swap any important and benign historical figures with black actors . You will never see a black hitler , black Stalin or black ge GH is Khan . 😂
This is a quote from the only historian from a white Greek man and he described Cleopatra and her family as mix race people not white... Strabo states "Three classes inhabited the city (Alexandria in Egypt): first the Aegyptian or native stock of people, who were quick-tempered and not inclined to civil life; and secondly the mercenary class, who were severe and numerous and intractable..; and, third, the tribe of the Alexandrians, who also were not distinctly inclined to civil life, and for the same reasons, but still they were better than those others, for even though they were a mixed people, still they were Greeks by origin and mindful of the customs common to the Greeks."
Cleopatra (Κλεοπάτρα) and her family can't be black figures because the were Greeks. The Ptolemies, originated in the Greek Kingdom of Macedonia (Alexander the Great). She was just the last member of a Greek Dynasty that ruled Egypt, as other Greek Dynasties ruled Asian Kingdoms in the same period (Bactria, Seleucid Empire, Pergamon, Indo-Greek kingdom etc) {Greek/Hellenistic period of Asia and North Africa}.
The painful part is that her race is very important to the story. It would be like if we made a story about the founding fathers but made them Native American. She was literally of the family who conquered Egypt and was oppressing it's native people. The fact that the people and the rulers were of a different race was huge. There was actually a big racial divide between Ptolemaic Greeks, Romans (both Cesar's and Pompey's), Modern looking Egyptians, and black Nubians
they already try to claim the the Founding Fathers were taught by the "native" Americans rather than the great minds of Europe. soon, decades at most, they _will_ be claiming the Founding Fathers were native Americans.
@Skiver the Ptolemaic dynasty oppressed the native people for 300 years. They literally had a revolution against them. Her being good or not doesn't matter tho because every historical figure is bad by today's standards. What's bad is that they are lying in a 'documentary'
The most iconic Queen of Egypt though her name is not as well known is Hatshepsut. She was the only Queen that was a king. I was able to visit Egypt last year and her temple is carved out of the side of a mountain. So cool!
@@neichareich7474 lol the "Middle East" is a man made region for separation purposes and is relatively a new concept when you consider history. No you defended Arabs. Arabs are not even from Egypt, they are Asian.
@@neichareich7474 i am aware that Asia is a continent as well as Africa, but those people who originate from those continents are considered Africans and Asians...nationalities are secondary. So no my logic isn't flawed. Egypt is an African country period. You can think it middle east/Arab whatever, but the middle east didn't exist technically 200 years ago. And the people who inhabit Egypt now are mixed Arab(Asian),Greek(Caucasian),African...they are not "true" Egyptians
4:45 this is the best point anyone's made about the show. this is the part that pissed me off the most, i would've been so excited to see an accurate representation of cleopatra and a telling of her REAL story, because it really is one of the most interesting in all of history, but wokeness just HAD to fuck it up for me. i truly hope that one day a series is made about cleopatra that isn't complete shit, she deserves it.
When I first saw the trailer I literally boiled. Unfortunately, people are no longer trying to hide the fact that we are rewriting history as we know it.
They never were won't even admit that Egypt wich is in AFRICA was made by Africans it truly is sad how people who didn't creat something so great incert themselves whites Asians Arabs have all gone delusional
i’m a black african and i’m offended too. making everyone in docus and movies black is so distasteful and boring. it’s disrespectful to the original creators and the characters. erasing historical characters ( real or fiction ) by replacing them with black characters is textbook definition of racism.
We're going from the idea that black history wasn't being told, to black producers, writers and directors simply making it all up. It's worse than ignoring the truth.
@@nicolepaloms3509 African native name? That makes no sense. Africa is not a country, it's a vast continent with so many different countries, cultures, and languages. Which specific language do you think it belongs to? Most North Africans are are a different race than sub Sahara Africans. Cleopatra is Macedonian.
Another Fun Fact: There wasn't only one Cleopatra. There were 7. The "Famous" Cleopatra we all know was Cleopatra the 7th. Also, lets not forget when they did they same thing in the Series "Troy: Fall of A City" where they made Achilles black as well calling it "fact" and if you disagreed with the "facts" they just called you a "Racist". 😒
The reason they do this is because of a sinister evil vile agenda of wh!te racial replacement called the “K A L E R G I Plan” - these movies are pr0paganda to normalize this replacement
The fact that DrWho,the series abt a guy that owns a magical blue box that travels through time,and a guy who changes his face and fights aliens,the fact that it was more accurate than the dedicated documentary is concerning on a nother level
I got mad at that black woman who talked about the black 'Queen Charlotte' in The Bridgertons. There was no black queen in British history. Nothing about that series should be considered historically accurate.
I loved those parts in Netflix docuseries preview when Cleopatra said to Julius Caesar: "Hasta la vista, baby" and yelled to Marcus Antonius: "Get to the choppa!". So epic historical moments!
Well, depends on the time and place you went to school. We just a month or 2 ago did a lesson on chromosomes and obviously no chromosome lesson is complete without discussing gender, thankfully I go to school in a magical world called the UK where our teeth are more yellow than the sun and we drink tea all day but at least teachers can't get away with teaching the woke bullshit as easily as they seem to be able to over in the US
@@poseidon808 It's not even that they can't "get away" from the woke stupidity. It's that it's literally part of the curriculum. I got taught in *health* class that gender is different from sex and people can identify as whatever they feel like. And you risk expulsion for speaking out against it on the grounds of "hate speech.,"
This story gets worse. *Egyptian* people got together and made a petition to have this cancelled, it got to 100.000 signatures and the site took it down shortly after it reached 100k 😒
I hope so… These things drive me crazy! I find it a total lack of respect and I am not even Egyptian. Fortunately we are all good readers at home. We don’t depend on Netflix to know about history.
I think Cleopatra was an outlier within the Ptolemaic dynasties in that she actually learned the language of the people she ruled over. From historical accounts she was not a beautiful woman, but had charisma and a fierce intellect. She was not a warrior queen, and I doubt if she had sparkly blue & gold eyeshadow. Hollywood always seems to have the need to portray her as the most beautiful woman who ever lived, almost like they can't accept that a plain woman can be a force to be reckoned with.
the center of debate here is she was not black in any measure and she is greek macedonian with like 1% persian ancestory that some stupids are saying she was mixed raced so she is must been black african in some form when in the other hand her genealogy is fully known and her familly practiced inbreeding and sibling marriage
@@abedbbb7083honestly as a Greek I m not sure why people find it so hard to say she was Greek. Like is that somehow bad? 😅 She was a foreign ruler of an empire that decayed. She was not the first foreign ruler of Egypt and not the last, empires existed all over history.
I loved the part when Caesar said “It’s Roman time” and was gonna Rome all over Cleo. But then Chris Pratt shows up and with Dom and says “No, itsamee. I’m Mario” and uses the power of family to push the Romans away. Truly a historical accurate drama of a century
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." George Orwell, 1984 (feels like it's no longer just fiction)
Hi Brett, I used to be a stupid teen who went with the way all my liberal blue friends thought. But you really expanded my mind and I’m not afraid to share my more conservative views now. Thank you!!! Love the videos
Remember, the first step to being your own person is to accept the reality that some people only like you for agreeing with them. Most often these types of people are also the type to use you for personal gain or to betray you when it benefits them more than your relationship does. Being brave enough to speak your own mind might cost you relationships in the short term, but in the long term will gain you higher quality friends.
The saddest part about this is the fact that people can actually use this to convince others that she was actually black without any context. They can say that it is a real documentary, and someone who doesn’t know any better, would be immediately convinced. Also, this is not even a documentary to begin with since they already got her race wrong. Like what’s next? Is she not going to be born in Egypt?
@@vanderful2397 Americans weren't the only ones involved in this production. The production company behind this, Nutopia, is British owned and operated out of London.
@@thatHARVguy Well... in case like when you not like the actors themselves that can be true. But in this case that's just putting the dirt under the carpet.
Not only skin color but facial structure which is very different from caucasion and negroid bone structure.Nefertiti and Ramses were definately caucasion bones structures from their mummies and obviously Ptolemy the greek general under Alexander the Great was Caucasian
@@IQandRaceDifferences just to let you know white people,arabs and indians all fall under the caucasian category biologically speaking. Asian people under the mongoloid category and black people under afrikaans category
@@oxyht At the time, there was a powerful empire where Iran is. It is likely that her ancestors intermarried with that royal family, when they weren't inbreeding. Though I believe that family was also descended from one of Alexander's generals, so it's up in the air if she had any Iranian blood in her.
I’m Greek and I feel offended bc they are appropriating my history, she’s actually Macedonian, Greek 😢 I might die from this transgression Putting this in after getting out of church Χριστός Ανέστη! Happy Easter to the orthodox people out there :)
It’s okay for them to appropriate history, but not for anyone else. That’s the liberal MO. As a very likely descendant of this queen through her daughter, I take the offense personally.
Yeah they did. Also from things like coins we also see her face a lot and when you compare it to others she looks much more like European women of the time then African. Also they had black paint at the time so if she was black they would have made her image that way
@@Random-qi3vv Greek. They were an incestuous, classist, and Greek-supremacist family since before Alexander the Great put them on the throne of Egypt. If you look at a breakdown of her family tree, the percentages of Persian and Iranian blood Cleopatra VI had are laughably low (3/16 and 1/16 figures, respectively). The Ptolemies hadn't even had new(ish) blood since Cleopatra I wedded Ptolemy V, and Cleopatra I came from an inbred family that the Ptolemies were already related to.
Like we need any more evidence of Jada Pinkett Smith's toxicity. And I particularly like how she's like "An era when women ruled with unparalleled power" and I'm like "Dude, Cleo needed to suck the toes of Rome to get any where near power." But, I should know better than to expect these clowns to have any knowledge of or respect for historical facts.
Well yes it's true but there were some women who ruled a kingdom with no man one example is Rani lakshmi Bai whose husband passed away and she took the throne and tried to fight agianst sexist Britishers from East India company for freedom but perished African had queens that weren't sucking to men Britishers always attacked rich culture countries that weren't white so Britishers were dicks and were white to the point the word white becomes associated with abusers and oppressors when it was Britishers who were history's biggest offenders
They could’ve made a film/documentary on ACTUAL dark-skinned queens of Egypt such as Hatshepsut and Nefertiti, their stories can be interesting. But no, they’re too woke to realize that
I recall the times my Grandmother would speak of her younger days when she met Elvis Presley. Although she was suffering from dementia, she clearly remembered that he was a handsome Chinese man.
Don't listen to whatever those teachers and expert historians have to say. Just know that I'm your grandmother and Alexander The Great was whatever race you happen to be. ***k knows who your father was though.
Thank you so much for calling this out dear... As an Egyptian it makes me sad & angry that people are rewriting my history.. I'm proud that more amazing people like you called this out ❤ tysm
Tho as a modern Egyptian this isn't your history. Arabs didn't migrate into Egypt until much later. It would be like me, a descendent of Europeans, claim Native American history as my own because I'm an American.
Funny thing is when I was in high school(early 2000's)the common misconception was that Cleopatra was Egyptian/darker skinned. I remember watching a history channel documentary(when the history channel only showed documentary style content)about how she really looked. It was mind blowing to see the coins with her face, a 3d scan on her bone structure, etc. We all knew of course she was of Greek ancestry but still always saw her depicted as darker skinned and with classic Egyptian features. After that point it was common to see her shown with more Greek features. Crazy how in 20 years the yoyo effect of history.
The Romans in the 1st century AD depicted her in paintings a pale skinned (Cleopatra visited Rome). We also have busts of her and they depict an average looking Greek woman. Zero hints of her being black anywhere in any historical literature, paintings or busts.
@@Wowzersdude-k5c even if there is that hint it would ve been forgery because her ancestry is fully known from both sides father and mother and we know that her familly practiced inbreeding and sibling marriage and even if some sources are claiming her mixed raced she was not black the second race in her blood line is Persian and it is a very weak influence knowing that it goes to her grand grand grand grand grand ... mother being a persian princess that married a Macedonian diadochi
@@belle3055 tells that not every one will like a historical figure to be missed up just for views, there is a lot of black Legendary people in history, the community of making historic series don't need to swipe race, I am pretty sure you will not like a historical black figure to be swipe race, just for the satisfaction of a few people in the 21 century, I can go with everything else that isn't really Linked to a real person, like Ariel, in the case of Ariel and angrboda yes I can agree with you, it's was kinda racist, but for a queen of egybt that is actually Greek, no, here you should stop acting like a victim, we already have black lagends, no need to Distorting the reality of real people
@@belle3055it tells you that people don't want history changed or taken away from them. This documentary is racist against Egyptians and Greeks. Their culture is just as important as any other race.
I didn't hear about this until my brother in law mentioned it. I feel for the people of Egypt. You'd figure with all this representation buzz they'd actually do what they set out to do but you are right. They are profiting off of this outrage which is sad.
I remember hearing as a kid that the problem with causes is even good ones that after awhile they go to far so you get the cause people support it, it starts making a difference then goes in the opposite direction and people get pissed at it look at gay pride now trying to in doctorate kids that they're trans, look at black history meant to be inclusive but doesn't include every ethnicity, is trying to rewrite history, some people even thinking that it means black people are more important then others (guy on the bus was black was saying he was important cause he was black then this father and child cause they were white so I'd cause racism in the other way. So yer its a messed up situation and throughout history people have ended up fighting (not against the message) but the cause cause it always caused bigger problems in the end
As someone who has always had a huge fascination with Ancient Egypt since childhood, I find it so perplexing that pop culture is so fascinated with Cleopatra when the OG Egyptian girlboss Hatshepsut is right there. Hatshepsut was one the first female rulers of Ancient Egypt, she has left her mark in Egyptian history. Depictions of her have her wear the fake beard, a mark of Pharoahs, she was the OG ''Woman King''. Also, Cleopatra was a product of inbreeding in the Ptolemaic dynasty.
I have to agree. Originally she took the throne until her step-son was old enough to rule, but then she refused to let him take his rightful place as Pharaoh.
That TikTok at the end had me in stitches. How about Will Smith playing the Russian Tsar Nicholas II in a story about the Romanovs? Sarah Oh as Anastasia? Honestly, as a white Russian woman, I'm real tired of people thinking 'the whites' do not have history or culture while simultaneously making garbage like this and claiming it's the truth. It's giving book burning dictator vibes.
Already happened, did not Will Smith play "James West" a white Secret Service agent in the Wild, Wild, West ?? Albeit a fictional character but nonetheless white according to the script.
I lost my job as a doctor when my patient's grandpa told me that he doesn't care what I learned in school, he knows how to treat his grandkid's pneumonia, sadly rubbing herbs and essential oils on the kid did not work....
I am so sad right now. I stopped dressing like her for Halloween because I thought it was cultural appropriation! I am Mediterranean I could totally dress as cleopatra lmaoo
As an asian, i hate cultural appropriation with a passion. Who the hell invented that shit anyway? Now i can hardly see any westerners wearing our cultural clothing becuz of this. We actually love it when foreigner wear our cultural clothing and act like us.
I’m guessing they will also say something like she forced almost all the Roman’s out of Britain where really she got destroyed when she came up against a actual Roman Army that was smaller then hers
Yeah the Anne Boleyn one got me. One second their saying everyone in Europe at the time was racist (and therefore we as their descendantsare as well) and the next second their putting a black woman on the throne of England in the 1500s.
When Alexander the Great conquered the Middle East region and Egypt, they brought Greek culture to Egpyt, and they began practicing/embracing this Hellenistic culture. After Alexander died, his empire fractured. Egypt became one of these nations emerging from that calamity. Cleopatra's lineage is descended from a Macedonian greek general who was installed to govern the region after Alexander's conquest, the generals name was Ptolemy Soter I. Cleopatra is formally known as Cleopatra Ptolemy Soter, the VII. 7 generations from Alexander's conquest. Alexandria, the city in Egypt, is named so after Alexander the Great.
Alexandar the Macedon. He was from Macedonia. What is macedonian greek??? There was Macedonian empire and there were greek city states. They were not the same. Read the histrory for once
@Emilija Gjorgieva never heard of Alexander the Macedon. I've heard of Philip II of Macedon, his father 😂 if you're gonna rip into someone, at least make sense and do it properly. Macedonia considered themselves Greeks. They shared the same culture and the same gods.
@GrenadeCraig96 well Aleksandar was his son, so the last name stays the same right??? Here in Makedonija, we call him Aleksandar Makedonski (Aleksandar the Macedon). When you translate the word The Macedon it means The Great in English 😏 It is sad that the history all over the world is written by the same people (the Anglo-Saxons)
@Emilija Gjorgieva Well missy, I'm not from Macedon. In the US, we do not refer to him Alexander the Macedon. Ever. Salty feminist?? You must be upset that Cleopatra wasn't black like you wish she was because the evil white Anglo Saxon men "warped" history? Macedon's religion was greek polytheism, also known as Hellenism.
As an Egyptian, I’m dissatisfied with Netflix and the attempt to permanently misrepresent the history of my country, but I feel happy because the world is starting to notice what we Egyptians are suffering from, we have been suffering from this matter for a long time and no one knew anything about it, why can't they just leave us alone? Why do non-Egyptians always come and easily say “You are not Egyptian” and then start telling superstitions as if thy knows my history and the history of my country more than the original Egyptians!! we really done with black Americans and I don't know why there is a big problem with education in America, and the result is a people who don't know anything about history, and their only evidence is "I remember my grandma saying to me" like are they for real?! We are the original inhabitants of Egypt and everyone must accept this fact. #Egypt_wasn’t_black #Egypt_for_egyptians
The woman laughing about the race swapping cast memes seems like a lovely woman. Refreshing and nice to see she finds it equally as ridiculous, as everyone else should.
brett, all i have to say is that i love how put together and relevant your content is , even as a teenager i find it really helps me be educated in a non- indoctrinating way and you bring light to the darker corners of history and politics just sharing your opinion and not caring what anyone else thinks. thankyou.
the next thing we will see as a documentary will be queen Elizabeth the 2 as a black woman who lived in north Korea ,escaped and was adopted by a king , was named elizabath and became queen of england after the kings death
Thank you thank you thank you from the bottom of my heart for pointing out that ancient Egyptians were not black!!!❤❤ we literally are being called out as racists and harassed on social media for saying that! We have nothing against black people but it’s our right and duty to defend our history and culture.
your culture lied too you if you think original Egyptians weren't black. yall history books started after the invasions but Egypt was there longggg before your people came and guess what sweetie? it was BLACKKKKKKKKKK. So spare me the lowkey fake ‘we have nothing against black people’ when Ure literally trying to erase them from their history. It’s condescending and makes u look disingenuous and phoney. 'We wuz kangs'
@@ndennant and? If you care to take a closer look you will notice the Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria all have the same features before and after the Arab Invasion and very few individuals with Arab routes but the majority is still pure blooded Egyptians. Exceptions don’t make rules. North African countries were never black they were,are and will always be distinguished by light brown or olive skin and Mediterranean features.
@@madeleineazer3901 It is historical fact that the Arabs occupied Egypt. We cannot aruge facts. Therefore, what do you think of the possibility that darker skin peoples migrated up the Blue Nile (originating in Ethiopia) and into Egypt. It's entirely plausible that pre-dynastic nomadic tribes of the southern Nile Valley followed the river to the Mediterranean coast. Thus creating a multi-diverse society of brown and black complexions. This possibility is accepted among scholars. Apart from trading and commerce, the Egyptians isolated themselves from the east i.e. Canaan and Asia minor. Believing they were barbarians. Egyptians depicted themselves as diverse. Therefore to say the Egyptians weren't black is ignorant. The Kushites or (Nubians) in the South were depicted as having a darker complexion but that doesn't mean the Egyptians weren't themselves black. There are different complexions of Black skin as seen in Africa today.
For some reason this prompted me to check my Netflix history to see if I’ve actually watched anything good lately. Realized I haven’t even fired it up in 2 months, so now I’m saving that $20 a month before it renewed tomorrow. Thanks, Brett! 😂
I still have Netflix Canada because it’s the only place I can still watch the real Star Trek, the pre Jar Jar Abrams 2009 thing that some claim is Star Trek. Otherwise, I agree with you it’s pretty much garbage
In the trailer, "Cleopatra" mentions that, "there is no Rome without Egypt." This is not correct because Rome was everything. Rome was the World. It was Cleopatra who was the first dignitary to visit Rome, (after her affair with Caesar) to tie up loose political ends after her father died. She did everything in her power to keep Egypt a strong nation but unfortunately that's not how it ended. By the way - good movie review :)
I love how she says "my grandmother told me", as if Cleopatra lived 100 years ago when her grandmother was around 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Her grandmother was dead wrong haha
@@FrozenCappucino in both ways, dead and wrong
😂😂😂
I watched a History channel documentary about Rome and apparently they talked about racism the whole time and said the only people at the time who had slaves were the Romans. Complete rewriting of history.
As an Egyptian, thank you for defending history against blackwashing
And you're oddly silent about white actors portraying Egyptians. You guys are funny.
@AugustYou just posted that "Scandinavians have NO MEMORY OF BLACK PEOPLE IN (YOUR) COUNTRIES UNTIL THE 1960s"? That is clearly false...which is why people can't trust in your opinion about Cleopatra and other historical facts.
@@Sunrise6410 White people didn't try to steal history with false information and make documentaries, they were making science fiction movies
@@thomasreaves588 You will not score well here... just accept it. Egyptians are not black, Vikings are FAR from black, and Cleopatra was NOT black. Nothing wrong with being black. But the influence that blacks had in past culture and ancient history was minimal. It's better to focus on more recent developments, the present times, and validate achievments of the moment.
@@joanofarcxxi When did all the Vikings die off? Do Tiger Woods kids count as Viking decendants?
I did an undergraduate degree in History, and I don't think that using my Grandmother as a source would have been academically acceptable.
Don't give them any ideas. 😅
😂😂😂 I laughed so hard at this imaging my professors face when he saw my grandmas name included in the citation section. He doesn’t even let use biased news sources or Wikipedia.
@@danirichey8313 Wikipedia is horrible. I started contributing to Wikipedia last year and quickly got the hell out of there as fast as I could once I caught on that the vast majority of the admins / senior editors on that site are EXTREME far-leftists (and when I say EXTREME Far-leftists, I mean EXTREME to the point where they make Twitter far-leftists look normal). A great example of them going insane would be the Wikipedia page for Gamergate (there are so many lies on that Gamergate page on Wikipedia and if you try to edit anything there, even if you have a credible citation, they will erase your edit and threaten you in every possible way, sometimes even threatening to investigate the IP address of the person they don't like... and they have actually done this to some people. It's freaking creepy). Also, I noticed that even many of their entertainment related pages are lacking info (especially pages for individual video games and even movies and comics) because they will delete anything from a user they have it out for. Anyway, Wikipedia sucks. For movies and TV shows I use IMDB (which is 100 billion times better than Wikipedia). For video games, several RUclipsrs are much better at giving out more accurate info, even though Reddit can be very valuable for games which are more on the obscure side and also for games that RUclipsrs might hate but certain people on Reddit might love. So for video games, I use a combination of Reddit and RUclips together. For comics, certain sites that sell comics actually provide really nice info for the comics they are selling. For more important stuff like history, politics, astronomy, medical related stuff, etc, almost any other website is better than Wikipedia.
Not just use your Grandmother as a source, but also disregard what we were taught in school.
Depends on wether or not her grandmother was two thousand year old woman who discovered the fountain of youth and actually lived through the age of Mark Antony, Cleopatra, and Caesar and managed to be in the same vicinity as her.
If that's the case than she'd likely be a better source than all the statues, coins, painting, and descriptions from official documents that describe her as looking Greek (basically white).
So I mean.... it's clearly not TOOOO far fetched right?
So lemme get this straight , they made a documentary based on what her grandma told her?
Bingo
I know It's a serious issue, but I can't stop laughing 😂 Jada should become a comedian 😂
Next we should have a series about white kings and take Mansa Muza
Yep
Thank you, Brett, for discussing this. As an Egyptian man, I want to talk about something other than the Queen Cleopatra movie, as I believe it is merely one small side of Afrocentrism. The history of Egypt has been the subject of manipulated pseudohistory. Although Egyptians, since the time of the pharaohs, have ranged from light brown to dark brown skin (sometimes pale), the idea that we were a monoracial group is absurd and harmful. Even darker-skinned Egyptians are distinctly different from Sub-Saharan Africans, and rightfully so, since we have the biggest natural barrier between us lol. Our language, Coptic, has survived and even influenced our Egyptian-Arabic dialect. Our celebrations, like Sham Ennessim, have endured for thousands of years. Egyptians, whether dark-skinned or light-skinned, are Egyptians, and nobody can claim our history other than ourselves. It is absolutely terrible that our history is being pulled into woke cultural wars.
Thanks for sharing this!
No one in Africa would think differently. It's all the uninformed dweebs overseas who think Africa is a monolith
Yess 😢❤
thank you for clearing this❤
Can’t wait to go to egypt in a few month! (Biladi biladi biladii lol)
Saying Cleopatra was a black woman is like saying Jada Pinkett Smith is a loving wife.
😂
Best comment here. 😂😂
I mean.....how do you know?
Cleopatra was promiscuous, so no wonder Jada is mesmerized by her😂
Bro in dead
As a Greek, thank you for defending our and Egypt's history. These people think they can trespass on anyone's rights to support their fantasies.
At least Greek people are also offended by this like we are. Cleopatra was our queen but she had a Macedonian ancestry so you also should be feeling what we might be feeling when this came out..
@@colorfulaura105 Obviously we are she was a Greek woman
Then why don't we hear from you? She was even more your queen than theirs
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
Because Greece is part of the "WOKE" EU…that’s why! The People care, but the people in charge DO NOT !!!!
Plus, Greeks have so much History that Cleopatra is kinda an afterthought for them. But the ones that know History are obviously pissed off!!!! 😃👍
I think the problem is they think she is too dark. They need a lighter actress.
Cleopatra was Greek , descendant of Ptolemy who was one of Alexander's generals . Her name in Greek means "glory of the fatherland"
Even if she was Egyptian then she is Egyptian not black at allllll
I have been a History professor for 25 years, and it still amazes me how much people still don't know she was Greek!
Willful ignorance.
If you don't know something, or just don't believe it, you can say whatever they hell you want instead. They aren't being tested on it, so being wrong to them doesn't matter. If people dropped Netflix because of it, then it would matter to Netflix, but these people would already have been paid.
Race, gender swapping or even changing character histories in fictional works is one thing, this is just scary. People will see this and think it is true. Netflix needs to label this as fiction. Hopefully a disclaimer at the beginning, saying the show took Creative License, with history.
European "Barbarian"
it is not about knowledge..it is clear ego problems.....THEY KNOW...not you
This is a quote from the only historian from a white Greek man and he described Cleopatra and her family as mix race people not white... Strabo states "Three classes inhabited the city (Alexandria in Egypt): first the Aegyptian or native stock of people, who were quick-tempered and not inclined to civil life; and secondly the mercenary class, who were severe and numerous and intractable..; and, third, the tribe of the Alexandrians, who also were not distinctly inclined to civil life, and for the same reasons, but still they were better than those others, for even though they were a mixed people, still they were Greeks by origin and mindful of the customs common to the Greeks."
I've always thought of her as simply Egyptian. Apparently it's a lot more complicated than that 🤣
My grandmother told me "I don't care what they tell you in school, the Moon is actually a spaceship."
*Girl, be for real.*
Well if you give your grandmother testosterone she will probably change her mind: when researchers gave women testosterone they became more skeptical than before and when they gave old men testosterone they became LESS religious, not more
My grandmother would run after me with intention of beating the shit of me with a stick if I ever thought of making babies with a black-haired woman, let alone African or Asian. I am thrilled to imagine what kind of thrashing would Cleo's father get if he did that lol
Stupid grandma. We all know the moon is a giant space egg.
🎶 *Doctor Who theme plays* 🎶
@Demand Peace Give it a break. Idk what it is with this new wave of wokeness, but it’s tiresome and lack lustre.
Ask people who actually study DNA and work as ancestry analysts (like Ancestral Brew who is on socials and doing DNA breakdowns is his job if that wasn’t clear). But if you ask these people they will tell you the vast majority of Ancient Egyptians (including most of the Pharaohs) were not black at all, infact the ironic part is that modern Egyptians have more Black African ancestry. ☠️
Look at pictures of the Coptic people (the closest relatives of the Ancient Egyptians and still speak a unique language that is surprise, surprise descended from Ancient Egyptian). Coptic people have various different nose shapes, but many of them have Wide, larger noses yet they are not black.
Please stop trying to speak on SWANA/MENA history when you know nothing. We don’t won’t your contribution, leave us alone.
It should be noted that in Egypt, people were equally angry about a blonde actor playing an Egyptian Pharoh in a local TV series and that series was cancelled. For a lot of us Egyptians, this isn't about hatred towards blondes or blacks, but about making sure our history is accurately represented.
I agree
How can a blond be Pharoh, unless he's Greek?
As it should be accurately represented!
@@Hiraghm He can't! Especially if he is of a native dynasty.
@@abdelhamidmetwally2266 four ancient mummies have been recovered and found to have fair/blonde hair. This is scientific fact. Modern day egyptians migrated into the area and have zero connection to the ancients. They lie about every bit of history and laughably think the pyramids are only 4000 years old when they're in fact 12 or 15 thousand years old, they've been ransacked dozens of times and only more recently inhabited by nomadic cultures who have tried to assimilate into the egyptian culture, but they guard any information that denies them their history, rewriting it all in the process.
Denying her Greek heritage also takes away a huge chunk of _why_ her story is so amazing, momentous and remembered to this day. It wasn't just that she was a fearsome and strong female leader. It was that she was a foreigner, who through that strength and determination as well as her beauty, intelligence and the fact she was the _only_ known Egyptian leader to actually speak to her people's in _all_ of their spoken languages at the time (Egypt had mnay different languages present and she could speak them all. 10 languages in total) made an entire country fall in love with her and accept her as their Queen. Honestly the more you learn about her, the more impressive a woman - a human being even - she becomes. Aside from marrying her younger brother, but we can overlook that since it was political as well as fairly common in those times for members of higher society. And a big part of what made her so impressive _was_ that she was Greek, not Egyptian.
Stop greek washing her. She was Macedonian
dont you just love it when greece consistently takes history from many countries in order for them to feel better about themselves
Thank you for your comment, it was very informative and educational, I didn't know those details about Cleópatra 😄👍🏼☀️...
@@RU-Aussie *Greek-Macedonian, actually.
Im Greek and Arab and its very annoying to see our accomplishments get stolen. Both Greeks and Arabs have given the world so much in sciences, religion, culture, medicine, technology and more and its just rude to claim credit for what you have not done.
Exactly! When my ancestors in NW Europe were living in caves and wattle huts, the Greeks and Arabs were inventing alphabets and mathematics. And yes, I learned that in school.
THIS! I have so much respect for these people as they were pretty much the pioneers for today’s technology and were so innovative it’s insane how intelligent and powerful they were mentally physically and spiritually
They’re trying to make it seem like black people are the source of everything. They’re even taking Chinese and Hebrews and Vikings.
Omg! In history back in my days in the 90s it was drill into us that Cleo is Greek descendant she is mixed. And the Arabic folk were mathematics and because of them all the knowledge we have in western civilization that we thought was dead, gone it’s because of the library of Alexandria and the smart Muslims whom translate our work and created the sciences and mathematics so when we found the library again we could translate all of our works and new ones for math, science and medicine what happen to this kind of cooperation?
My Ancestors were waring against our selves in Western African Tribes and kings ,queens and chiefs 1,000s of years ago while the Greeks and Arabs philosophy and science and medicine
Even if you claim that Cleopatra was Egyptian (which is not historically accurate), most Egyptians are not "black" even though Egypt is in Africa. They have more of a middle eastern look.
But we’re they born in the middle
East?? Shut up’
No She was Macedonian Greek ,a White European..
that's modern egyptians, the original ancient Egyptians were of black heritage.
Edit: for all of you saying I'm just saying stuff,
Ancient Egyptians were black ( karu/Eelam/ Tamil / sub saharan.)
Most African countries speak one or two ancient Egyptian words also.
Kaku- an ancient Egyptian word or
Kalam- a tamil word. Or
(Get to gather timbers kat maram/Katiu maran)
Also the ancient figure ishtar also known as siwan/ siwas, was worshipped in South Africa and other countries therefore it makes sense for black africans to talk about ancient Egypt.
With ancient nubian culture having strong links.
Even kemet (black land)
Also, the ancient Egyptians wrote in their own artifacts that their ancestral homeland was up the Nile, meaning South. For example In Hatshepsut's Tomb accounts of the expedition to pwenet. (Eritrea/Ethiopia as per the genetic link matching that area)
There is no documentation by Greco-Romans or Ancient Egyptians that indicate they migrated from a northern region.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Ps: This has nothing to do with Cleopatra. We all know she's Greek.
Here's a few other things: the oldest symbol of the Ankh was found in Ghana, people don’t understand that the whole of Africa was involved in the development of ancient Egypt, Imhotep himself came from the Twa people..
White Mission director Professor Alejandro Jiminez Serrano discovered in that the pharao's shemay's atamology was of black nubian descent as well.
the Cultural traditions of Ancient Egypt with the rest of Africa have a cultural continuity. There is no comparison with the middle East. The wearing of leopard skin was a Cosmological expression of Symbols relating to other black Africans.
The linguistics of Ancient Egyptians clusters in close proximity to West and Central Africa and not the Middle East. Study the Wolof vs Ancient Egyptian language.
Want more evidence? Egyptologist Cheikh Anta Diophad invented a method for determining the level of melanin in the skin of human beings. When conducted on Egyptian mummies inside the Museum of Man in Paris, this test indicated that these remains were of Black Africans “Lepsius canon,” distinguishes bodily proportions of various racial groups categories the “ideal Egyptian” as “short-armed and of Negroid or Negrito physical type.”
@@serenitysubs933 we wuz kangz right
@@serenitysubs933 no they were not its essentially the opposite as the sub sahatans came in and mixed
As an Egyptian I can’t believe the gall on the woman who just said cleopatra was black with such confidence. Like who do you think you are 🤦♂️
Well all ancient Egyptians were black
@Vicious V lol go study history before saying shit bro
@@viciousv9671 no they weren't they were arab
@@viciousv9671 Cleopatra wasn’t even Egyptian, she was Greek
@@annelycabrera8611lies
As an egyptian I just want to say a few things. 1. A documentary is meant to be historically accurate and Cleopatra was macedonian greek...its not complicated. 2. African americans have been attacking modern day egyptians for years calling us invaders and colonizers which is incredibly racist and offensive. 3. Egypt does not adhere to americans standarda on race. In america you have 2 races. White and non white, which is absolutely ridiculous and not how most people in the world identify. Egypt is made up of many colors and we are all egyptians in this beautiful melting pot but genetic studies have been done and have shown that most modern day egyptians carry gene e-m78 which is native to north east africa. Also no offense but most americans are not historically aware and have no idea what egyptian history is even about. Its not that egyptians hate that she is black..its that they hate the lies and the inaccuracy and also did make a big fuss about the Gods of egypt movie that was all white actors as well as when Elizabeth taylor played her. Egypt is for egyptians alone.
Egyptians also racist towards blacks. We know that you're pushing the Nubians out of their ancient territory of aswan right now as we speak.
@Bobby's Channel This is not something an average citizen has control over. It's very unfortunate what's happening to Nubian land. But this doesn't excuse this theft of our history sorry. Your argument doesn't make sense.
@@bobbyschannel349 you don't make any sense. These nubians still aren't african americans, they aren't YOUR people, they are OUR people. They do not look like you at all, they don't have the same features. This is another proof that americans don't know anything about egyptians and how bad their racial concept is. This weird categorization of people based on skin tone is totally racist and came from the white people who enslaved your ancestor and yet you guys still acknowledge it as real ?
@Bobby's Channel That's cause you keep trying to appropriate their culture and black face it. Just because Kush, and Nubia once conquered Egypt and placed thier own kings as Pharoah doesn't mean that the original Egyptians were black. How about you people, (and yes, I mean "YOU PEOPLE") all you ignorant woke American liberal socialist; put down your rainbow flags, BLM protest signs, smart phones with all your Insta tiktock and Twitter likes, and pick up some god damned books. Preferably read one on biology, history and one of Thomas Sowell's books of economics. And for fu*ks sake please stop the woke navel-gazing! We're all tired of hearing it and so is the rest of the world.
@@bobbyschannel349 no they dont want to leave bec they make good money from tourism there, dont say sth you dont know
As an Egyptian woman, Thank you Brett for discussing this. It's just disgusting, and an insult to the Egyptian people.
The Arab occupation of Egypt began in 639 AD after the Roman empire fell.
This is a quote from the only historian from a white Greek man and he described Cleopatra and her family as mix race people not white... Strabo states "Three classes inhabited the city (Alexandria in Egypt): first the Aegyptian or native stock of people, who were quick-tempered and not inclined to civil life; and secondly the mercenary class, who were severe and numerous and intractable..; and, third, the tribe of the Alexandrians, who also were not distinctly inclined to civil life, and for the same reasons, but still they were better than those others, for even though they were a mixed people, still they were Greeks by origin and mindful of the customs common to the Greeks."
@@ndennant Modern day egyptians carry the north african E strain, more specifically the E-M78 + V-22, basically the very exact same strain that has always been dominant in Egypt since ancient times and all the dna studies proves this again and again. Egyptians are not arabs.
Normally I don't take offense to stuff that doesn't effect me, but I take great offense to Jada Pinkett Smith changing Cleopatra to a black woman! Everyone should be offended by this! It's our world history! Cleopatra was an *incredible* woman that all woman still today are fascinated by! She wasn't black, she wasn't white, she was Egyptian! That's such a HUGE part of who she was that by changing that one thing, you change who Cleopatra was entirely! The audacity of Jada P.Smith is disgusting!
@@ndennant acient Egyptians is look smiliar to Arab people. Brown people. unlike black or European always claim Egypt part they culture lol
Jada pinkett smith gets under my skin unlike any other celebrity. She is so frustratingly entitled
That feeling you have comes from her demonic vibes.
@@calistafalcontail she also looks like a demon. A wannabe human. She doesn't look natural.
There's something about that "lazy lids" expression that both enrages and disgusts me. In my experience, it's a very accurate indicator of narcissism and sociopathy.
Agreed to both of u!
@Mike Griffin, yup. My "lids" rule applies to her as well 😁
They're just blindly thinking "being African equals black" which is pretty ignorant for people who claim to be so educated and open minded.
americans are the most narrow minded people on earth. africa has different original inhabitants, it’s not just the black people. if you were to ask them who the amazigh people are and where they’re from they’d start glitching.
Not very educated or open minded
Apparently
They are actually delusional, which is worse than ignorance because they don't think they need to correct their wrong ideation.
And it's coming from people (African-Americans) who are mostly 3/4 or less black, compared to African blacks.
@@Trollificusv2 that’s true
As a Persian, I would like to say all the love to the people of Egypt, the Arabs and the Copts. We have a long history with each other, a history full of love, battles, science, inventions and achievements 🤍
You just reminded me of the black Persian in one of those Hollywood movies. I don't remember if it was "300" or another movie. I was a child when it came out, and I was so confused. I was like "since when are Persians black?" 😂
My mom is Albanian, which is right next to Greece. She’s gotten many comments on how she looks Egyptian, which just adds to the bizarreness of this series. I don’t know why people have to change history to make it more “inclusive,” rather than just making it accurate.
There was an Albanian at my uni, she looked very much like the reconstruction of Cleopatra deriving from her busts.
My dad is Albanian and I’m 1/2 greek
Saying Cleopatra was black is like saying Albanians are Illyrians.
@@silentstorm3467 Albanians are Illyrians
@@silentstorm3467 well, illyria and albania did share the same land and the illyrian tribes speak a very similar language to modern albanian so no its not like saying cleopatra was black
now people are gonna start cancelling history teachers for “teaching the wrong history” 💀
People are dumb these days
Yep
Nothing new. People are still canceled for speaking truths around WW2. It's illegal in many countries to do so.
Im sure Christian will everyone in the Bible are white
That has probably been going on for years.
I am Egyptian, and while cleopatra and I don't exactly share the same race or descent she was still one of the rulers of my country long ago, one that we studied in history and is well liked and respected to this day, so honestly I am offended by this
I have a bit of Aegean islands aka Greek island and this kills me she is mixed if they wanted to be inclusive they could have gone through her bloodlines to show she has alot of culture within her
@@kirayoungblood she wasnt mix, she was inbreed. there's a reason she was extremely ugly
and so you should be ...its wrong....one of our historical figures...Anne Boleyn was played by a black woman a couple of years ago.....netlix allowing entitled race baiters to do what the want just for bucks is so wrong....they need boycotting some more...they are losing customers all the time because of what they make and release
My ex girlfriend is Egyptian, lives in Alexandria, and she absolutely hated the politicized nature if Egyptians in media
I agree (Algerian here) I don’t understand why Egyptians are just left out of this story ! It’s like they took a fascinating story from the Egyptian history and made it their own ! And now they are debating about it 🙄 I understand you feeling offended… I would be 🫤
Brett's transition into a sponsor ad is better then Marvel and DC transitions nowadays, so good that you dont even mind
I am Egyptian and I feel disgusted by the blatant falsification of history
you guys must defend your heritage 💗
Fighting historical colonization by colonizing the the written history is. This is not "representation" but compensation.
Ancient Egyptians were black actually
@@viciousv9671 No they weren't
@@viciousv9671 Adolf hitler was black
Saying Cleopatra is black due to her being from Africa would be like saying Elon Musk must be black due to him being from Africa.
At first I thought Elon Musk did have some ethnicity in him 😂. I thought he was half-Asian or something 😅…
@@AlekseyMaksimovichPeshkov So if he's white he doesn't have ethnicity?
If she was a white actress you would be silent 😂 dUMMIE
I'm dying 😂😂😂
So he's from the South? 😂
I'm a half Egyptian highschooler living in Egypt and this was honestly infuriating
Even the history curriculum here makes it very clear that Cleopatra was Greek
I love how they keep talking about representation yet start race-swapping historical figures or popular figures in general in TV shows and/or movies, It's backwards isn't it?
Inclusivity in the west means swap any important and benign historical figures with black actors . You will never see a black hitler , black Stalin or black ge GH is Khan . 😂
W school system
Next is black King Arthur
This is a quote from the only historian from a white Greek man and he described Cleopatra and her family as mix race people not white... Strabo states "Three classes inhabited the city (Alexandria in Egypt): first the Aegyptian or native stock of people, who were quick-tempered and not inclined to civil life; and secondly the mercenary class, who were severe and numerous and intractable..; and, third, the tribe of the Alexandrians, who also were not distinctly inclined to civil life, and for the same reasons, but still they were better than those others, for even though they were a mixed people, still they were Greeks by origin and mindful of the customs common to the Greeks."
Wasn't Cleopatra Mesopotamian?
Thank you for defending our and our brothers greeks 🇬🇷 great history, you've gained all respect
Bruh apparently nowadays someone's grandma knows more history than actual historians 💀
She's probably lying and is just trying to blame that crazy idea on someone else lol
My grandma is a historian, infinite iq
I hope they don’t ruin ancient Mesopotamia with legendary people like Sargon of Akkad and Hammurabi and other legends
My grandma said 5*5 is 11
I am Egyptian/Greek and this bullshit is wildly disrespectful
It is. I am English and I am sorry that they think it’s ok to do something like this. This really is out of hand.
these people are Crazy and sad and I’m sick of it and especially being west African Caribbean Haitian that loves all history
If your Arab your nothing close to an Egyptian
I agree and I'm Greek. I'm sick of this woke bullshit.
Bro was hit from both sides at once sorry for you man and for all greeks and Egyptians who witnessed this
Cleopatra (Κλεοπάτρα) and her family can't be black figures because the were Greeks. The Ptolemies, originated in the Greek Kingdom of Macedonia (Alexander the Great). She was just the last member of a Greek Dynasty that ruled Egypt, as other Greek Dynasties ruled Asian Kingdoms in the same period (Bactria, Seleucid Empire, Pergamon, Indo-Greek kingdom etc)
{Greek/Hellenistic period of Asia and North Africa}.
The painful part is that her race is very important to the story. It would be like if we made a story about the founding fathers but made them Native American. She was literally of the family who conquered Egypt and was oppressing it's native people. The fact that the people and the rulers were of a different race was huge. There was actually a big racial divide between Ptolemaic Greeks, Romans (both Cesar's and Pompey's), Modern looking Egyptians, and black Nubians
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they already try to claim the the Founding Fathers were taught by the "native" Americans rather than the great minds of Europe.
soon, decades at most, they _will_ be claiming the Founding Fathers were native Americans.
@Skiver the Ptolemaic dynasty oppressed the native people for 300 years. They literally had a revolution against them. Her being good or not doesn't matter tho because every historical figure is bad by today's standards. What's bad is that they are lying in a 'documentary'
@Skiver yha she was not a good person there's a reason why everyone tried to kill her
Back in that time people had no problems killing their own family members to be in power. It was kill or be killed unfortunately.
The most iconic Queen of Egypt though her name is not as well known is Hatshepsut. She was the only Queen that was a king. I was able to visit Egypt last year and her temple is carved out of the side of a mountain. So cool!
Hatshepsut is so underrated! Y not make a doc about her and how her name was erased from the columns?
Also Nefertiti who ruled with her husband !
That's amazing! I'm going to look into her now. Thanks for sharing. ✨
As an Egyptian, thank you for defending our history ❤
I am Greek and this is an insult for both Greeks and Egyptians. In fact, this is an insult for all Mediterranean people.
@@neichareich7474 lol the "Middle East" is a man made region for separation purposes and is relatively a new concept when you consider history. No you defended Arabs. Arabs are not even from Egypt, they are Asian.
Its not only your history, its worlds history… we need to defend it
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@@neichareich7474 i am aware that Asia is a continent as well as Africa, but those people who originate from those continents are considered Africans and Asians...nationalities are secondary. So no my logic isn't flawed. Egypt is an African country period. You can think it middle east/Arab whatever, but the middle east didn't exist technically 200 years ago. And the people who inhabit Egypt now are mixed Arab(Asian),Greek(Caucasian),African...they are not "true" Egyptians
4:45 this is the best point anyone's made about the show. this is the part that pissed me off the most, i would've been so excited to see an accurate representation of cleopatra and a telling of her REAL story, because it really is one of the most interesting in all of history, but wokeness just HAD to fuck it up for me. i truly hope that one day a series is made about cleopatra that isn't complete shit, she deserves it.
Saying Cleopatra was black is like saying Jada is a good wife
She is! She even lets her husband watch her and her boyfriend sometimes!
Omg that husterical🤣
@@grantchampaign thanks for confirming Cleopatra was black. ure appreciated
@@berka6539 she wasn’t black, good joke though
@@grantchampaign she wasn't white either. even better reality.🤣🤣🤣
Imagine the outrage if Ryan Gosling played Barack Obama!
When I first saw the trailer I literally boiled. Unfortunately, people are no longer trying to hide the fact that we are rewriting history as we know it.
They never were won't even admit that Egypt wich is in AFRICA was made by Africans it truly is sad how people who didn't creat something so great incert themselves whites Asians Arabs have all gone delusional
1984
Thank you! I really enjoyed watching this.
in an attempt to not offend they offended all egyptians
And greeks
And historians
i’m a black african and i’m offended too. making everyone in docus and movies black is so distasteful and boring. it’s disrespectful to the original creators and the characters.
erasing historical characters ( real or fiction ) by replacing them with black characters is textbook definition of racism.
Nah. They meant to offend 🙃
@@boits88 It's like with games. They could make games/movies set in African history, but instead they just put Africans in European history.
We're going from the idea that black history wasn't being told, to black producers, writers and directors simply making it all up. It's worse than ignoring the truth.
They're gonna start saying Shakespeare was black soon.
Cleopatra was black. Even her name Cleopatra is a black African native name. I speak 12 languages by the way.
@@nicolepaloms3509 Κλεοπάτρα was Macedonian Greek. She was not Black or of African descent. Stop lying to yourself
@@nicolepaloms3509 African native name? That makes no sense. Africa is not a country, it's a vast continent with so many different countries, cultures, and languages. Which specific language do you think it belongs to? Most North Africans are are a different race than sub Sahara Africans. Cleopatra is Macedonian.
@@nicolepaloms3509 Well, I speak 24 languages, but you can’t prove it because I’m not gonna reply your comment.
Another Fun Fact: There wasn't only one Cleopatra. There were 7. The "Famous" Cleopatra we all know was Cleopatra the 7th.
Also, lets not forget when they did they same thing in the Series "Troy: Fall of A City" where they made Achilles black as well calling it "fact" and if you disagreed with the "facts" they just called you a "Racist". 😒
Yeah the Neo-Marxist Afro-Centric Narcissists really like to appropriate cultures of Indo-European peoples.
The reason they do this is because of a sinister evil vile agenda of wh!te racial replacement called the “K A L E R G I Plan” - these movies are pr0paganda to normalize this replacement
The fact that DrWho,the series abt a guy that owns a magical blue box that travels through time,and a guy who changes his face and fights aliens,the fact that it was more accurate than the dedicated documentary is concerning on a nother level
So instead of going by history, they are going by what Granny said. I love the lady's laugh in the clip.
Yes just like your racist ancestors re-wrote our history.
I got mad at that black woman who talked about the black 'Queen Charlotte' in The Bridgertons. There was no black queen in British history. Nothing about that series should be considered historically accurate.
@@mayloo2137 she was joking man
@@이지민-j5w Was she?
@@mayloo2137 i think so. she was laughing hysterically
I loved those parts in Netflix docuseries preview when Cleopatra said to Julius Caesar: "Hasta la vista, baby" and yelled to Marcus Antonius: "Get to the choppa!". So epic historical moments!
I actually cannot fault the phrase “I do t care what they tell you in school”. I mean they don’t even know what a woman is after all.
Well, depends on the time and place you went to school. We just a month or 2 ago did a lesson on chromosomes and obviously no chromosome lesson is complete without discussing gender, thankfully I go to school in a magical world called the UK where our teeth are more yellow than the sun and we drink tea all day but at least teachers can't get away with teaching the woke bullshit as easily as they seem to be able to over in the US
@@poseidon808 It's not even that they can't "get away" from the woke stupidity. It's that it's literally part of the curriculum. I got taught in *health* class that gender is different from sex and people can identify as whatever they feel like. And you risk expulsion for speaking out against it on the grounds of "hate speech.,"
To them a woman has become a myth
3:15 I love how she just blends the advertisement with what she was saying only great RUclipsrs can do it that well 😂😂😂
This story gets worse. *Egyptian* people got together and made a petition to have this cancelled, it got to 100.000 signatures and the site took it down shortly after it reached 100k 😒
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Good!
The Greek people as well signed off on it.
✨ freedom of speech ✨
I hope so… These things drive me crazy! I find it a total lack of respect and I am not even Egyptian. Fortunately we are all good readers at home. We don’t depend on Netflix to know about history.
This is why the Netflix meme of the new polar bear documentary starring black bears was so fitting
I think Cleopatra was an outlier within the Ptolemaic dynasties in that she actually learned the language of the people she ruled over. From historical accounts she was not a beautiful woman, but had charisma and a fierce intellect. She was not a warrior queen, and I doubt if she had sparkly blue & gold eyeshadow. Hollywood always seems to have the need to portray her as the most beautiful woman who ever lived, almost like they can't accept that a plain woman can be a force to be reckoned with.
the center of debate here is she was not black in any measure and she is greek macedonian with like 1% persian ancestory that some stupids are saying she was mixed raced so she is must been black african in some form when in the other hand her genealogy is fully known and her familly practiced inbreeding and sibling marriage
@@abedbbb7083honestly as a Greek I m not sure why people find it so hard to say she was Greek. Like is that somehow bad? 😅
She was a foreign ruler of an empire that decayed. She was not the first foreign ruler of Egypt and not the last, empires existed all over history.
I just found your channel a couple days ago and you are a god of the ad transition. It's truly amazing 💯✌️🤟🤘
I loved the part when Caesar said “It’s Roman time” and was gonna Rome all over Cleo.
But then Chris Pratt shows up and with Dom and says “No, itsamee. I’m Mario” and uses the power of family to push the Romans away.
Truly a historical accurate drama of a century
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bro was high on acid when he wrote this
@@Cynique_NoirHe sniffed some ancient ashes ⚱️
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."
George Orwell, 1984 (feels like it's no longer just fiction)
Chilling right? I was re-reading it recently and felt like it was contemporary history.
Africa is a continent not everyone in Africa is black
I don’t think they know that
Charlize Theron was born in South Africa. She's white.
Very true. I know plenty Arab and white Africans. People are so ignorant and narrow minded.
no shit Sherlock Holmes
I have been to Morocco that's Africa most Morrocians look Greeks but don't tell them that they wouldn't like it.
The "Polar Bears" one killed me 😂😂😂😂
Hi Brett, I used to be a stupid teen who went with the way all my liberal blue friends thought. But you really expanded my mind and I’m not afraid to share my more conservative views now. Thank you!!! Love the videos
Looks like the creation of a high value woman. Keep going strong!
We don't have to listen to other people to be ourselves
Welcome to the dark side Anna😅💕
Remember, the first step to being your own person is to accept the reality that some people only like you for agreeing with them. Most often these types of people are also the type to use you for personal gain or to betray you when it benefits them more than your relationship does. Being brave enough to speak your own mind might cost you relationships in the short term, but in the long term will gain you higher quality friends.
Chose the wrong side
The saddest part about this is the fact that people can actually use this to convince others that she was actually black without any context. They can say that it is a real documentary, and someone who doesn’t know any better, would be immediately convinced. Also, this is not even a documentary to begin with since they already got her race wrong. Like what’s next? Is she not going to be born in Egypt?
Don't worry except for some of those uneducated blacks we all know what's wrong and right
Trailer also said that she was defending her people.
For some reason Americans especially can't get how new the idea of nationalism is..
They think Wakanda is f**king real.
@@vanderful2397 Americans weren't the only ones involved in this production. The production company behind this, Nutopia, is British owned and operated out of London.
If she was white, it wouldn’t even be talked about… racist
The actress who took this role annihilated her acting career before it even started 🤣🤣🤣 And you have Jada to thank for that! 😅
It's when Adele James said; "If you don't like the casting, don't watch the show.", is when her career died.
Not first life and career destroyed by Jada….
Too bad. She actually looks kind of cool and I almost like her.
@@thatHARVguy Well... in case like when you not like the actors themselves that can be true. But in this case that's just putting the dirt under the carpet.
@@thatHARVguy no, black people will support her. She'll have plenty of work
Grandma rolled up and said "forget what you learned in school children, I'm the teacher now"😂😂
Cleopatra was of Greek and Iranian descent. She would more than likely be closer to olive/tan skin tones accentuated by the sun. But not black.
I've never seen a black person in my life...dark? yes, black? No
Not only skin color but facial structure which is very different from caucasion and negroid bone structure.Nefertiti and Ramses were definately caucasion bones structures from their mummies and obviously Ptolemy the greek general under Alexander the Great was Caucasian
Irani?
@@IQandRaceDifferences just to let you know white people,arabs and indians all fall under the caucasian category biologically speaking. Asian people under the mongoloid category and black people under afrikaans category
@@oxyht At the time, there was a powerful empire where Iran is. It is likely that her ancestors intermarried with that royal family, when they weren't inbreeding. Though I believe that family was also descended from one of Alexander's generals, so it's up in the air if she had any Iranian blood in her.
saw the title and verbally said "not again"
This was around 20-30 years ago, for cryin' out loud.
I’m Greek and I feel offended bc they are appropriating my history, she’s actually Macedonian, Greek 😢 I might die from this transgression
Putting this in after getting out of church Χριστός Ανέστη! Happy Easter to the orthodox people out there :)
I am so sorry friend
Please do!
@@ExoticAfrican6 we found the leftist.
It’s okay for them to appropriate history, but not for anyone else. That’s the liberal MO. As a very likely descendant of this queen through her daughter, I take the offense personally.
@@ExoticAfrican6 Nuttin butt a troll
I think I remember seeing a CGI recreation of Cleopatra’s bust (basically what she would look like alive) and it looked nothing like this.
yep. She looked arab like she most likely was
@@Random-qi3vvno she looked Greek cause that’s what she was
Yeah they did. Also from things like coins we also see her face a lot and when you compare it to others she looks much more like European women of the time then African.
Also they had black paint at the time so if she was black they would have made her image that way
@@Random-qi3vv she ain't egyptian dawg
@@Random-qi3vv Greek. They were an incestuous, classist, and Greek-supremacist family since before Alexander the Great put them on the throne of Egypt. If you look at a breakdown of her family tree, the percentages of Persian and Iranian blood Cleopatra VI had are laughably low (3/16 and 1/16 figures, respectively). The Ptolemies hadn't even had new(ish) blood since Cleopatra I wedded Ptolemy V, and Cleopatra I came from an inbred family that the Ptolemies were already related to.
Breet deserves an award for her smooth ads transitions. She really does 👍
Calling this a documentary is like calling "Cuties" family-friendly.
LOL
Like we need any more evidence of Jada Pinkett Smith's toxicity. And I particularly like how she's like "An era when women ruled with unparalleled power" and I'm like "Dude, Cleo needed to suck the toes of Rome to get any where near power." But, I should know better than to expect these clowns to have any knowledge of or respect for historical facts.
I think it was more than toes she was suckin on...
Well yes it's true but there were some women who ruled a kingdom with no man one example is Rani lakshmi Bai whose husband passed away and she took the throne and tried to fight agianst sexist Britishers from East India company for freedom but perished
African had queens that weren't sucking to men
Britishers always attacked rich culture countries that weren't white so Britishers were dicks and were white to the point the word white becomes associated with abusers and oppressors when it was Britishers who were history's biggest offenders
They could’ve made a film/documentary on ACTUAL dark-skinned queens of Egypt such as Hatshepsut and Nefertiti, their stories can be interesting. But no, they’re too woke to realize that
Nefertiti wasn't black. Lmao
They never said black they said dark-skinned
@@itsfunwhenitsmessy5111 did you even watch the video? She literally said "I don't care what they tell you in school Cleopatra was black"
@@johnstrife7(It’s possible that person was replying in context to the person who was above them in comment order)
@@sparklingstarsforeverinthe493 ohh my bad then
7:35 I can watch this one million times and still laugh because of how genuine that woman's laughing is. It is so fucking contagious.
I recall the times my Grandmother would speak of her younger days when she met Elvis Presley. Although she was suffering from dementia, she clearly remembered that he was a handsome Chinese man.
Good grief.
☠️😂😂😂
Dementia*
Don't listen to whatever those teachers and expert historians have to say. Just know that I'm your grandmother and Alexander The Great was whatever race you happen to be. ***k knows who your father was though.
I love that Jada is involved in this.
More proof of what kind of person she truly is.
Allow me to make a "throw burnt popcorn at the screen every time Jada shows up" challenge. That would slap harder than Will's fall from grace
Can i just spit on the screen?
😂
On an unrelated note, I noticed that Brett Cooper is dressed like Doug Funny.😄
It’s not only the fact that she was of Greek descent , north africans are not that dark either
It's no suprise that Jada pinkette Smith is fascinated by Cleopatra, given the fact that Cleopatra was promiscuous too 😂😂
Cleopatra was promiscuous for strategic reasons. Jada’s just a skeez.
@@PuddilyOops Damn you right!!!😂
Cleopatra and her family were inbred too. Maybe Jada is subconsciously telling us something.
Thank you so much for calling this out dear... As an Egyptian it makes me sad & angry that people are rewriting my history.. I'm proud that more amazing people like you called this out ❤ tysm
Tho as a modern Egyptian this isn't your history. Arabs didn't migrate into Egypt until much later. It would be like me, a descendent of Europeans, claim Native American history as my own because I'm an American.
@@MrHominid2Uit is our history. Repeating your lies doesn’t erase that.
@@mirbear72 If you're an Arab Ancient Egypt isn't your people's specific history. It is, of course, human history. The history of all of us.
@@MrHominid2U I’m Coptic. It’s my history.
@@mirbear72 I stated I was talking about Arabs. Nothing I said was a lie. If you aren't Arab I wasn't talking about you.
Funny thing is when I was in high school(early 2000's)the common misconception was that Cleopatra was Egyptian/darker skinned. I remember watching a history channel documentary(when the history channel only showed documentary style content)about how she really looked. It was mind blowing to see the coins with her face, a 3d scan on her bone structure, etc. We all knew of course she was of Greek ancestry but still always saw her depicted as darker skinned and with classic Egyptian features. After that point it was common to see her shown with more Greek features. Crazy how in 20 years the yoyo effect of history.
The Romans in the 1st century AD depicted her in paintings a pale skinned (Cleopatra visited Rome). We also have busts of her and they depict an average looking Greek woman. Zero hints of her being black anywhere in any historical literature, paintings or busts.
@@Wowzersdude-k5c even if there is that hint it would ve been forgery because her ancestry is fully known from both sides father and mother and we know that her familly practiced inbreeding and sibling marriage and even if some sources are claiming her mixed raced she was not black the second race in her blood line is Persian and it is a very weak influence knowing that it goes to her grand grand grand grand grand ... mother being a persian princess that married a Macedonian diadochi
That's called US cultural imperialism. US has no respect for other nations.
Thank you for your kindness to us from Egypt 🇪🇬♥♥😘
"Don’t care what they tell you in school cleopatra was black" sounds like your grandma didn’t even go to school 😂
Knowing that the trailer has 20k likes and 209k dislikes, that alone tells everything.
Tells that people are racist
@@belle3055 tells that not every one will like a historical figure to be missed up just for views, there is a lot of black Legendary people in history, the community of making historic series don't need to swipe race, I am pretty sure you will not like a historical black figure to be swipe race, just for the satisfaction of a few people in the 21 century, I can go with everything else that isn't really Linked to a real person, like Ariel, in the case of Ariel and angrboda yes I can agree with you, it's was kinda racist, but for a queen of egybt that is actually Greek, no, here you should stop acting like a victim, we already have black lagends, no need to Distorting the reality of real people
@@belle3055 it tells that most people are educated enough not to buy Jada's and Netflix bullshit "documentary"
@@belle3055it tells you that people don't want history changed or taken away from them. This documentary is racist against Egyptians and Greeks. Their culture is just as important as any other race.
@@belle3055Yup, the 20k people are. They are racist towards Greeks and Egyptians and are trying to take away their cultures.
I didn't hear about this until my brother in law mentioned it. I feel for the people of Egypt. You'd figure with all this representation buzz they'd actually do what they set out to do but you are right. They are profiting off of this outrage which is sad.
And for greek people
Ok. White people worshiper
I remember hearing as a kid that the problem with causes is even good ones that after awhile they go to far so you get the cause people support it, it starts making a difference then goes in the opposite direction and people get pissed at it look at gay pride now trying to in doctorate kids that they're trans, look at black history meant to be inclusive but doesn't include every ethnicity, is trying to rewrite history, some people even thinking that it means black people are more important then others (guy on the bus was black was saying he was important cause he was black then this father and child cause they were white so I'd cause racism in the other way. So yer its a messed up situation and throughout history people have ended up fighting (not against the message) but the cause cause it always caused bigger problems in the end
Bassem Youssef did a great job talking about this .
Thank you all
As someone who has always had a huge fascination with Ancient Egypt since childhood, I find it so perplexing that pop culture is so fascinated with Cleopatra when the OG Egyptian girlboss Hatshepsut is right there. Hatshepsut was one the first female rulers of Ancient Egypt, she has left her mark in Egyptian history. Depictions of her have her wear the fake beard, a mark of Pharoahs, she was the OG ''Woman King''. Also, Cleopatra was a product of inbreeding in the Ptolemaic dynasty.
I have to agree. Originally she took the throne until her step-son was old enough to rule, but then she refused to let him take his rightful place as Pharaoh.
Don't call her girlboss, when you need to dress like a man and wearing a fake beard to be aknowledged is a man's world that is bossing YOU
That TikTok at the end had me in stitches.
How about Will Smith playing the Russian Tsar Nicholas II in a story about the Romanovs? Sarah Oh as Anastasia?
Honestly, as a white Russian woman, I'm real tired of people thinking 'the whites' do not have history or culture while simultaneously making garbage like this and claiming it's the truth. It's giving book burning dictator vibes.
Already happened, did not Will Smith play "James West" a white Secret Service agent in the Wild, Wild, West ?? Albeit a fictional character but nonetheless white according to the script.
Don't give Disney ideas. They'll make an Anastasia remake casting her as the lead
They made a german nazi officer a black man not that long ago. A historical viking king is a black queen in the Vikings show.
all this commotion could have been avoided if Jada painted tiny rabbits on her head,from a distance they would have looked like hares
BRO!🤣☠
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Thanks, creativity is always appreciated. 😀
😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍😎
Well she is a hare-brain.
I lost my job as a doctor when my patient's grandpa told me that he doesn't care what I learned in school, he knows how to treat his grandkid's pneumonia, sadly rubbing herbs and essential oils on the kid did not work....
Granny literally said "fuck them historians I have a headcannon about history and no one will tell me I'm wrong"
I am so sad right now. I stopped dressing like her for Halloween because I thought it was cultural appropriation! I am Mediterranean I could totally dress as cleopatra lmaoo
I hope you didn't go as blackface. Because she wasn't black, so it would have been unnecessary.
You shouldn’t be afraid of cultural appropriation at all. It’s just another tactic that these folks use…
Just dress as you please, the Twitter opinions of some woke 19-year old in a random university need not apply.
As an asian, i hate cultural appropriation with a passion. Who the hell invented that shit anyway? Now i can hardly see any westerners wearing our cultural clothing becuz of this. We actually love it when foreigner wear our cultural clothing and act like us.
@@Nyorane They are not just random universities
I dread to think what they plan to do with Boudicca the Warrior Queen - she was a badass if you read the history on her.
They best leave her alone but knowing how this is all snowballing
They would probably say she was a single non binary aboriginal caregiver
They will probably make her Irish or 'Scotch' for the hyphenated Americans in Boston, MA or Mid West. With leprechauns and bagpipes
I'm guessing she'll be played by a Pan-Sexual, East Asian, "trans woman" (man). 😂 Gotta get them intersectionality points.🤣
I’m guessing they will also say something like she forced almost all the Roman’s out of Britain where really she got destroyed when she came up against a actual Roman Army that was smaller then hers
@@mitchamcommonfair9543 scotch is the drink Einstein.
We’d love to see you in Egypt! genuine hospitality guaranteed
The only box they forgot to check was that Cleopatra was really Cleopatro in drag
I hear John Leguizamo is really upset about not getting the role.
😂😂😂
I heard Dylan is upset cuz after 365 days as woman he can’t get a role as a queen
@@Trollificusv2 the only time John Leguizamo gets any roles they are from Pillsbury and its spelled with two Ls
They did it with Anne Boleyn, so why anyone would be safe anymore?
I'm waiting for that Mandela biopict played by Anthony Hopkins.
Wouldn't Dylan Mulvaney be a better fit?
It wasn't netflix who done this to Anne boleyn it was channel 5 and the stage show six
@@davidcopplestone6266 For Cleo? At this point, yes, anyone but this Jadda woman.
The race swaps usually don’t go the other way
Yeah the Anne Boleyn one got me. One second their saying everyone in Europe at the time was racist (and therefore we as their descendantsare as well) and the next second their putting a black woman on the throne of England in the 1500s.
When Alexander the Great conquered the Middle East region and Egypt, they brought Greek culture to Egpyt, and they began practicing/embracing this Hellenistic culture. After Alexander died, his empire fractured. Egypt became one of these nations emerging from that calamity. Cleopatra's lineage is descended from a Macedonian greek general who was installed to govern the region after Alexander's conquest, the generals name was Ptolemy Soter I. Cleopatra is formally known as Cleopatra Ptolemy Soter, the VII. 7 generations from Alexander's conquest.
Alexandria, the city in Egypt, is named so after Alexander the Great.
Alexandar the Macedon. He was from Macedonia. What is macedonian greek??? There was Macedonian empire and there were greek city states. They were not the same. Read the histrory for once
@Emilija Gjorgieva never heard of Alexander the Macedon. I've heard of Philip II of Macedon, his father 😂 if you're gonna rip into someone, at least make sense and do it properly.
Macedonia considered themselves Greeks. They shared the same culture and the same gods.
@GrenadeCraig96 well Aleksandar was his son, so the last name stays the same right??? Here in Makedonija, we call him Aleksandar Makedonski (Aleksandar the Macedon). When you translate the word The Macedon it means The Great in English 😏 It is sad that the history all over the world is written by the same people (the Anglo-Saxons)
And the gods were not the same... you can read it yourself from the proper sources
@Emilija Gjorgieva Well missy, I'm not from Macedon. In the US, we do not refer to him Alexander the Macedon. Ever.
Salty feminist??
You must be upset that Cleopatra wasn't black like you wish she was because the evil white Anglo Saxon men "warped" history?
Macedon's religion was greek polytheism, also known as Hellenism.
As an Egyptian, I’m dissatisfied with Netflix and the attempt to permanently misrepresent the history of my country, but I feel happy because the world is starting to notice what we Egyptians are suffering from, we have been suffering from this matter for a long time and no one knew anything about it, why can't they just leave us alone? Why do non-Egyptians always come and easily say “You are not Egyptian” and then start telling superstitions as if thy knows my history and the history of my country more than the original Egyptians!! we really done with black Americans and I don't know why there is a big problem with education in America, and the result is a people who don't know anything about history, and their only evidence is "I remember my grandma saying to me" like are they for real?! We are the original inhabitants of Egypt and everyone must accept this fact. #Egypt_wasn’t_black #Egypt_for_egyptians
The woman laughing about the race swapping cast memes seems like a lovely woman. Refreshing and nice to see she finds it equally as ridiculous, as everyone else should.
Polar bears had me dying 😂😂
brett, all i have to say is that i love how put together and relevant your content is , even as a teenager i find it really helps me be educated in a non- indoctrinating way and you bring light to the darker corners of history and politics just sharing your opinion and not caring what anyone else thinks. thankyou.
The ruling elite of Egypt was Macedonian and Greek for hundreds of years from the time of Alexander's conquest until the Romans took Egypt.
the next thing we will see as a documentary will be queen Elizabeth the 2 as a black woman who lived in north Korea ,escaped and was adopted by a king , was named elizabath and became queen of england after the kings death
As an Egyptian, we aren’t black. We are tan and we were always tan.
You are what Netflix says you are you handsome, beautiful, black Egyptian... lol kidding.... about the Netflix part.
Thank you thank you thank you from the bottom of my heart for pointing out that ancient Egyptians were not black!!!❤❤ we literally are being called out as racists and harassed on social media for saying that! We have nothing against black people but it’s our right and duty to defend our history and culture.
your culture lied too you if you think original Egyptians weren't black. yall history books started after the invasions but Egypt was there longggg before your people came and guess what sweetie? it was BLACKKKKKKKKKK. So spare me the lowkey fake ‘we have nothing against black people’ when Ure literally trying to erase them from their history. It’s condescending and makes u look disingenuous and phoney. 'We wuz kangs'
The Arab occupation of Egypt began in 639 AD after the Roman empire fell.
@@ndennant and? If you care to take a closer look you will notice the Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and Algeria all have the same features before and after the Arab Invasion and very few individuals with Arab routes but the majority is still pure blooded Egyptians. Exceptions don’t make rules. North African countries were never black they were,are and will always be distinguished by light brown or olive skin and Mediterranean features.
@@madeleineazer3901 It is historical fact that the Arabs occupied Egypt. We cannot aruge facts.
Therefore, what do you think of the possibility that darker skin peoples migrated up the Blue Nile (originating in Ethiopia) and into Egypt. It's entirely plausible that pre-dynastic nomadic tribes of the southern Nile Valley followed the river to the Mediterranean coast. Thus creating a multi-diverse society of brown and black complexions. This possibility is accepted among scholars.
Apart from trading and commerce, the Egyptians isolated themselves from the east i.e. Canaan and Asia minor. Believing they were barbarians. Egyptians depicted themselves as diverse. Therefore to say the Egyptians weren't black is ignorant.
The Kushites or (Nubians) in the South were depicted as having a darker complexion but that doesn't mean the Egyptians weren't themselves black. There are different complexions of Black skin as seen in Africa today.
@@ndennant it’s widely known that ancient Egyptian called their neighbors to the south “ burnt faces”. Clearly Egyptians weren’t black
For some reason this prompted me to check my Netflix history to see if I’ve actually watched anything good lately. Realized I haven’t even fired it up in 2 months, so now I’m saving that $20 a month before it renewed tomorrow. Thanks, Brett! 😂
Brett should now brand the channel as a financial advisory channel
I still have Netflix Canada because it’s the only place I can still watch the real Star Trek, the pre Jar Jar Abrams 2009 thing that some claim is Star Trek. Otherwise, I agree with you it’s pretty much garbage
Lol same here 😂😂😂
I have got 499/- pending and Iam thinking of deactivating it .
In the trailer, "Cleopatra" mentions that, "there is no Rome without Egypt."
This is not correct because Rome was everything. Rome was the World. It was Cleopatra who was the first dignitary to visit Rome, (after her affair with Caesar) to tie up loose political ends after her father died.
She did everything in her power to keep Egypt a strong nation but unfortunately that's not how it ended.
By the way - good movie review :)