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Is The New Deco Really That Bad???? | #transformers Legacy Velocitron Leader Class Scourge/black convoy
The weapon storage is actually a callback to the original toy. G2 laser prime (and by extension rid scourge) had the same weapon storage.
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Ive been saying for years, they should have always used ball joints for the fold out hands. That way you get the folding hand with a wrist swivel.
That's a pretty solid idea. Not sure if it would scale down for deluxe-sized figures without making the plastic too thin. I guess that could be remedied with some extra reinforcements molded in.
Haslab Star Saber's smaller bot uses that same trick! I can't believe I actually forgot about it. I guess what you were referring to could be feasible. Not sure if can withstand the drop tests for mass-retail stuff, but I think it's plausible.
Rid 2001 scourge is always been one of my favourire repaints of all time,in the rid 2001/car robots show he was so unique,especially his personality and his arc in the show,and i like how he started the nemesis prime concept with the armada character,this is the best scourge in my opinion after the beast wars and the cybertron characters,"I have only one purpose,serve megatron,i have only desire to destroy megatron enimess.i have only one mission,lead the decepticons to victory"-rid 2001 scourge/car robots black convoy
Except Copy Convoy, the black repaint of Lio Convoy aka Leo Prime from Beast Wars II actually predates Car Robots Black Convoy/RiD01 Scourge by a couple years: BWII came out in 1998, versus 2000 for Car Robots and 2001 for RiD01. (Speaking of which, it shocks me that Takara didn't bother to do a Copy Convoy repaint of their LGEX Lio Convoy...)
@@DragoonMS are you talking about the lio convoy repaint and retool of titans return alpha trion ?
@@bilal_Hadjlaoui907 Yup
@@DragoonMS i like how the titans return toyline literally did make everyone a triple changer and a headmaster,and even if it doesn't make any sense,the legends toyline has some very great repaints and retools,like greatshot and slipstream etc....
@@DragoonMS copy convoy shouldn’t be considered first, not only has lio convoy never been officially called Leo prime (only alternate universe repaints based off lio convoy), showing lio convoy isnt optimus, and copy convoy wasn’t evil just confused, even coming to an agreement with lio convoy at the end of the episode. Easy mistake to make though. Hope this helps :)
As a Scourge fan myself, I was quite disappointed when the deco was revealed at first. But then I thought to myself: Do I always need the exact same deco layout on a Scourge? Especially when I compare him to the Siege Nemesis Prime or others from before (like the Takara Legends release of Titans Return Optimus as Scourge). It has definitely grown on me. That being said... I wouldn't mind Takara doing a Car Robot / RID 2001 accurate deco.
I think toyhax made some decals to make him look RID accurate
@@therailfanman2078 Yeah, I saw that. But I kinda think the decals take away from the toys "identity", dunno how to explain it. ^^
I personally like the new deco and always thought it looked cool
I'm sorry to say that's people dong get to be mad about the deco unless they are also mad about the prime universe characters getting butchered
@@flamebreaker7318Yet I never saw anyone getting pissed off about the Barricade made from Earthrise Smokescreen that doesn't look like any previous version of Barricade.
I was super stoked when this figure got leaked. I was google searching for announcements or leaks months ahead in hyperanticipation. It wasn't AT ALL what I was expecting when the PvP leak came out. But by George, I fell in love with it.
I pre-ordered it on on Pulse, but it hasn't arrived yet. I saw "scourge" while looking for Cosmos at my local Wal Mart, and picked him up. He's wonderful, and I'm so glad I got a spare because I found him knocked over and had to glue a smokestack back on.
This is my new nemesis prime for my alternate timeline where Unicron resurrects Optimus, not just Megatron.
OK I'm gonna be honest here, after watching this video? I'm not AS mad as I was originally on the deco. Being a fan of the original Scourge deco, OK yeah I'm miffed but i will be honest in that the deco is a LOT nicer than Laser Prime by far. Maybe I can repurpose this guy into someone else, but I'm a lot more sold on the deco than I was originally and it frankly doesn't look as bad as I thought, thank you so much for making this video and helping me move past my nostalgia stubborness XD
There's something about the black, teal, and dark pink that really do it for me. I'm looking forward to picking it up on payday. I have the Laser Optimus version and have been enjoying it a lot, but I'll be selling that one to get Scourge because good grief is that deco just the best.
The only shortcoming I saw with this mold was how they left off almost all of the ranged weapons from the trailer compared to the original toy. The figure from RID had a disc launcher, an air launched missile, and a spring-loaded 5 shot missile rack. This guy gets one claw arm and a tiny gun. But you can work with it by plugging the Micromaster combining weapons into the ports inside the tanker.
That air launch gimmick never worked properly even when I got the toy brand new
@Brian Babin ... did you get it and resell it/Keep it?
@Brian Babin That's because they're all bastards reselling a store exclusive for massive markup.
Imo, this Deco is better than the original. I absolutely dig the 80s synthwave look
Wish they painted the missiles better. Mold wise, wish the articulation was on par to the RTS G2 deluxe. Also if the "back" was the chest as the deluxe that'd be crazy. The deco from the TFCC is still nicer tho... But I do like this new deco.
@1:00 Hot Rod just planking there like a disappointment xD
I would like to see a stand alone SG optimus and SG Ultra magnus with this mold. I know we got the SG earthrise ones but this would match original SG toys better.
Edit: Scourge's paint job on this figure is more Nemesis Prime than Scourge. I see them as 2 different characters so I wanted Scourge to have his classic paint to help that.
"classic paint"
You do know that RID Scourge came before Nemesis Prime right?? :/
Besides, G1 Sweeps can never be taken seriously lol.
@@monster-mecha_enthusiast_2002 lol I didn't mean G1 Scourge when I said classic. And yes I do know that Scourge was before Nemesis that's why I consider them seperate characters.
@@EmeraldFatalis ...Right-
Sorry for misunderstanding.
I read SG as Studio Geries and not Shattered Glass
Found him at Walmart a couple days ago.
I also passed on Lazar Prime, and he's my favorite Legacy figure so far. Although I may get the toyhax stickers to make him look more RID.
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@@scottcowan5252 in the United States.
Dang it, That Toy Guy, you gonna make me pick this figure up, haha! He's shelfwarming pretty hard here in the US, as it was way too quickly released while the Legacy Laser Rod Optimus Prime figures are still on the shelf. He does looks really good, if not, as you mentioned, accurate to his source material. TRID is an interesting show, and I do wonder if they'll do a heavily retooled Fire Truck Prime, but that would be a very tell sell, because that original figure is quite spectacular.
Great review! Keep up the good work, bro! 👊😎🍻
It may not be the most accurate but I think the deco looks really cool. Whenever I can get this figure I'm going to display it with my encore Fire Convoy in their core robot mode. I think they're going to look awesome together.
Besides Sky-Byte, Scourge was the only character in RiD01 that I really liked (Everyone else wasn't bad per say but those two are the standouts) I also do kinda like the new deco I think that really dark black goes well with the neon they used
Hasbro just needed to put more effort into Scourge, the lack of grey was a little annoying. Overall though it’s a decent figure with a good mould.
i picked this up at ross today for $17 USD?! and you predicted the future with toxitron
I jumped on this the instant preorders opened. When Legacy Laser Prime was revealed, this was the deco I wanted and I got it.
I had to paint the chest on mine. I just had to. As much as I like Nemesis Primes, the justification for this deco was, quite frankly, shit. So I broke out my gunmetal paint and he looks correct now.
Also, please give us this mold as Toxitron and Laser Magnus in Selects.
Honestly main thing I hate about this mold (other than the colours for Scourge) are the non-movable shoulders and thin legs.
It just looks bad.
Nah, mainly the ARMS are the issue. So damn THIN.
Thin wouldn't be right to describe this guy. In hand, Scourge is too tall or too short
@@titantitties I think he does look skinny cause of the ER legs clashing with the shoulder pads, but I think the main reason they look off to me is that the shoulders are just too big. Like the Legacy mold is shorter than the original toy but the shoulder pads are as tall and larger than the original’s
@@grand_max66 his arms are too short, his torso is very short, and his legs are too long(King of Legs). My point exactly, but I love the design so much that I bought it.
Yeah, the only wheels on the original figure stand out on the sides of legs more and give him a more robust look. And as mentioned, the arms are stubby.
What I don’t get is why he’s part of the Velocitron Speedia 500 collection.
I was actually gonna skip prime and wait for Scourge but I ended up getting prime in the end. I'm glad I did because I'm not a big fan of Scourge's deco. I really wanted a more show accurate deco like the Takara Legends one.
In regards to the deco I I understand the complaints, however that doesn't mean we won't get a repaint later not to mention I missed out on the siege Nemesis Prime so for me he makes a great Nemesis Prime and I like that he looks a little different from my Earthrise Prime because it helps me separate them as characters.
I too haven't bothered with the Laser Prime, so I'm really glad that I got this figure. Scourge looks really cool with this Nemesis Prime-like color scheme. I'm happy to to have found this and own it, but I'm also open to other options. If they ever sell this figure again as a more accurate RiD Scourge (which I think would make sense later down the road), then I'll certainly buy that. For now, this figure suits my needs and still looks awesome. Additionally, Legacy Scourge and his weird proportions makes the Earthrise Optimus not look so out of place now, since he also has weirdly long legs with a short body. I wouldn't mind displaying them together. ^^
I love seeing engineering techniques that are normally reserved for 3p in mainline stuff. it really shows that hasbro and takara are stepping up in the mainline
My question for this specific part of the line is why wasn’t the leader galaxy armor cybertron prime used for siege when it feels more fitting to be used in this line since override is used here
It already is pretty hard to get hold of, I almost made a 100 mile trip for one in the U.K. but there was 1 eBay listing that wasn’t just scalping
I absolutely love this skirge/nemesis prime mold. I was not a fan of laser prime, but the scourge has become a Deceptacon I didn’t know that I needed and enjoyed.
Toxitron is real!
"Toxitron maybe" he did it, he actually did it, he predicted the future
I found 3 Scourge's at Ross and they were selling for $20
I don’t care if it has too be screen accurate but I do really like it!
106 chuckled way too much seeing Hot Rod just face planted
for those who desire a less pink look for this guy, and have both versions of this figure, there is a stupid easy part swap you can do.
all you have to do is remove the flaps on the shoulders that cover the fake missiles, and then the flaps below those that sit right next to the chest windows. they are both on friction hinges so it's easy and safe.
after that, there are 2 small screws on each shoulder that you then have to remove. you can then remove the piece that has the fake missiles, and repeat the process on the other figure, then swap the pieces.
after that, scourge will have the grey shoulders instead of pink, and the pink shoulders actually fit in well on lazer prime!
I managed to nab this when it became available again on Pulse, and oh my god I am in love with it. I am one of those people who doesn't care about accuracy. If it looks like the character, then that's good enough for me. And Scourge is a personal favourite of mine because I grew up with RiD 2001. Although I don't care at all for the trailer, because it's a trailer.
ya know, if there's one thing that irks me about the mainline primes, from like siege to legacy, it's that thing where the arms are just a big stubby. It's a really slight issue, but it's one of those things where.... I can't tell if it's that his biceps are just a tiny bit too short, maybe his sleeves are just a little too wide, or his hands are too small, I can't tell, but it just always looks to me like optimus is wearing a jacket that's just a bit too big on him..... Actually, I think it has to do with his abdominal section too, like below his window pecks... it's just a little too small, too short, and it makes him look like he's really high wasted. I feel like that's a harder problem to solve, but if they make a new prime mold ment to look like g1, that's the change I really want to see them tackle. It's weird, when earthrise prime came out, I think we all felt like he was the perfect prime, and I still like him, but in the face of legacy... I could use a new normal prime, which I'm loath to say because not that long ago it felt like we were getting a thousand optimus primes, and that's always kind of been an issue, and usually a new prime signals a new... well, everyone. Maybe Studio Series can make an 86 movie prime eventually, with some fun movie props like a big orange metal spike you can stick in his tummy to relive the childhood trauma of watching your first tv father figure role model take a mortal blow that eventually kills him.... Me? No, I'm fine (sob)
I got all of them except for scourge and cosmos and how did you get premium finish prime?
I barely managed to pick one up as they kept appearing and disappearing between pay days but a local Walmart got a bunch of the velocitron figures back in stock for boxing day.
I love your legacy comparison shots especially with Hot Rod
He looks spectacular, while for me he will be laser nemesis prime and not scourge, either way he looks amazing even though he came from a show i despise im still getting it
Gimme a Gen Selects Toxitron.
Just put it straight in my damn veins.
Honestly that 3rd party scourge you showed was Ong what I dream of for a scourge figure but wish it had the exact shape of laser primes head, bc how it looks rn it's like a stylized super robot ver of Optimus's head
This was the figure I wanted to get Day 1. I really loved the RiD Scourge character. I painted mine to look more like his 2000 self and I even bought the Larkin's Lair upgrade set to make him feel more like the G2 toy it was based off of. Yeah. I really enjoyed this figure
If they modify the transformation of the shoulder armor and add a weapon emplacement that connects to the back of the truck, this would make an awesome Clench, if they also fix the connection of the arms to the chest for him to look wider.
i find it quite strange that just a few minutes ago i was looking for laser prime videos then this shows up
My only thing is the transparent plastic on the shoulders and that’s it. I would have preferred if those were grey, but if there’s a replacement for those, then I’m good.
I own this figure my only nitpick is the lower arms are grey at the one side I feel like it should’ve been black Because it’s bit a unsightly in truck mode but besides that I think it’s a good figure probably my personal favourite out of the 3 prime modes We have
And I skipped on g2 prime not really a fan of its colour choice
While I really like the deco, it's definitely missing the iconic window coloration of the original, making this one feel more "Nemesis Prime"
SOOO glad I waited to pick up this version instead of getting laser Prime. The mould looked fun enough for me but I really don't care about G2 Optimus, then that toy showed up in stores very soon after they finally confirmed this deco was coming and I just prayed it wouldn't be too hard to find. He's absolutely gorgeous and honestly despite RiD 2001 being the show that aired when I was little I prefer this colour scheme
There’s price gaugers at my Walmart, so I’ll probably never see that figure in person 🙃
I actually didn't pay mind to this mold until Toxitron was announced/released. I think his deco serves this mold best.
I'm still waiting on my pre order on pulse US unfortunately but it says he'll release September so it might not be much longer before I finally have him. I think both sides of the deco argument are valid, I like the new colors more but I think they should release a more accurate version maybe in gen selects.
That would be nice, but I think that'll piss off some of the buyers for Legacy Scourge. You see, some bought him specifically because they didn't know if Hasbro'll release the accurate deco, leading to the buyers feeling like they wasted money.
@@shawnotoole9195 Yeah that's true.
I got the scourge and had the Lazer Prime figure prior. I did enjoy the figure but the Scourge remold.... I LOVED IT. I enjoyed it even more than the original. The colors are great, the body feels better than its predecessor, and it appears to have some remolded bits which feels better for posability. Plus the head being free from the neck feels far more enjoyable as well.
Honestly, since RID 2001 Scourge never had a Matrix I wrote his new deco down to finding some new trinket like "The Matrix of Shadows"
It's not from Unicron, but what it IS from is probably only better in that it doesn't want to actively devour the universe one planet at a time. Either way, it gave him an enormous surge of energy that gave him a lot more red.
I like the new deco. The hot pink weirdly works with the black and teal. The only problem I have with it is with the exposed clear pink plastic on the shoulder pylons. Especially with Legacy Laser Prime not suffering from that with those parts covered in what appears to be paint.
Although I’m also hoping that a more show/original toy accurate repaint happens sometime in the future too. Robots in Disguise/Car Robots fans deserve some love with a more accurate look too. Also I love the predominant gray look of the original RID toy.
So i see you’ve gotten the upgrade kit for legacy prime. Can you tell me how well it’s look if it was transferred over to this figure?
It might be because I’m colorblind and as a result I see both pink and gray as sorta similar, but I’d be perfectly fine with him if he just had the black trapezoid thingies on his chest and the shoulder design (either picked up in gray, silver or pink)
This could also be used for 2 bay movie g1 designed molds Optimus from 2007-Dotm and maybe Megatron from dotm, Dotm Megatron has a cool design in my opinion though he transformed with the trailer attached so there would have to be a way around this. Or this could be dotm videogame truck mode movie megatron.
To fix the gas tank issue i took them out and switched them to the opposite leg. That seemed to tighten them a bit.
Idk the trailer is pretty important for Toxitron maybe “Year of the Goat” could work without the trailer but I don’t know how happy people would be with a full clear plastic figure
Yeah I'm also wondering why does G1 have to be super cartoon accurate down to scene specific details and accessories but other series it's "yeah close enough. metroplex and armada starscream dont need a minicon. Arcee and bulkhead can just look similar if you squint"
Man I'm so glad I got this guy! Was checking out a Ross and found him for 15$!! Been slowly trying to build my collection as I took a interest in transformers lately and really wanted a Prime like figure and man this figure is amazing! Still need a actual Prime and probably won't get the Prime version of this one as i don't like the shoulder's on the prime one.
I know nothing of this character and saw it at walmart months ago and liked the color scheme but passed because of price. Recently I found it at Ross for $15. I really dig it, it has a very vaporwave color scheme.
Hey Toy Guy, it looks like your Scourge and my Scourge came from the same damaged mold. Both our figures' heads have the same exact chippings in the head crest's vent.
I’m just happy to get a great looking Nemesis Prime. Last Walmart Nemesis I never saw in person. The colors have a nice pop and the black makes this mold look much better then Laser Prime.
The fact it is Rid 2001 Scourge is an awesome bonus. Next we need an RID Optimus.
True, even I find RID Scourge alot cooler than the Alpha Trion-impostered Sweep version of him lol.
Honestly scourge is my bot of the year thus far. Im not counting menasor as he's technically not finished (as impressive as he is)
Heres hoping for a selects toxitron
I'm crossing my fingers for an accurate gen selects version
I was wondering what method you had in mind for fixing the awkward shoulders? I’ve had this figure since it first launched, and it still bugs the hell out of me.
For me, my issue with this mold is that the massive shoulders don't move. Because of that, the toy doesn't feel as dynamic as it should. The G2 laser prime feels better, mostly because the shoulders don't get in the way of posing the arms.
I have both, I love both designs. Its different and that's a good thing.
I really wish someone would make a shoulder upgrade for this guy. Similar to the kit for Armada Megs
I think I liked some of the RID show but not everything about it from what I watched back then. I'm not attached to the original character but I like how this looks SO much better.
One year later this figure has flooded Ross stores nationwide for a tad under $17 lol. Kinda sad really, it is a solid figure.
I never liked the Laser Prime mold, but this colorway is so amazing I had to get it.
I love this figure ever since I got it I’ve been posing it and taking pictures the light piping is great it really looks like he is a living being and not dead like others
His color scheme is okay, but I want the RID version. He costs too much to let "good enough" be good enough.
Plus, these days every "good enough" toy gets replaced. Galvatron, Soundwave, Ironhide, Mirage, Siege Megatron, Siege Prime, ER Arcee, Kup, Starscream ... and that's off the top of my head. So I'll just wait. And if it doesn't come I still have the other Black Convoys I own.
8:16 Given that you're a Bionicle fan, I was honestly expecting you to point out that the back of his head looks like Gali's mask
Just like you, I purposefully skipped the Optimus version of this mold in favor of this one, and I have to say I love him
I think they would include the trailer for toxitron. I mean, you can’t skip out on an oil tank for a guy makes TOXItron
i almost missed this at walmart when i was about to leave, then the box caught my eye and i bought him, he’s great, i like to think of him as Nemesis Prime rather than Scourge
I'm just glad I have a Car Robots 2000 Black Convoy thanks to the Legacy line.
Got mine yesterday from Amazon UK. 80 euros. And I just love this deco better than the Laser Optimus I bought last year.
Nice call on Toxitron!
To anyone else that has or had this mold; did anyone else notice how the doors in truck mode had 2 different door handles on each door?
Great review! I just found him this week and scooped him up.
I recently got this figure and I’m in love with it. Unlike some people, I think the paint job on the robot mode is soooo good. I love the colors. The transformation is also really fun. Amazing figure
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I got this guy at a Ross for like nearly $10 and he was my 1st leader and one of my favorite figures ever!!!
That anaemic crotch/waist design is what kinda kills the bot mode & gives the illusion of disproportioned legs, love the deco & overall design otherwise - it's a winner.
No, it is not bad. In fact I think the mold wears the Scourge/Black Convoy deco better than it does Prime's. And from what I understand the color/deco tweaks are more in line with the original Takara release (like the inverse G2 Autobot emblems) than the Hasbro one, which does liven the appearance up a bit. Still hoping we get a Toxitron. Maybe a Buzzworthy redeco eventually? They seem to be able to use the more exclusive molds that way as long as it's not the exact same character (like Netflix Bumblebee and Buzzworthy Goldbug both being the VW version).
Some people complain about the shoulders being seperate pauldrons from the arms. While their lack of rotation can be annoying, as someone who has the (reissue of) the original G2 Laser Prime, I can say this is also a bit of an improvement. There's less issues with posing the arms when you don't have to try and counterbalance angling backwards two large towers.
The trailer is also more interesting than Earthrise, both in the appearance in the trailer, and the transformation being a defense turret and barricades rather than a one big flat open space. There is a notch on top of the claw arm that you can tab the shield/axe on, with the handle out like a gun barrel. I the pair of leg sideguns from Siege Ultra Magnus (who I don't use them on) into some of the ports in battle platform mode to stand in for the other weapons the original had that this one doesn't.
Where did you got the premium finish ss-05 prime?
I think the deco looks nice in a vacuum but my problem with it is that it just isn’t even trying to be Scourge. It’s very clearly trying to be the Nemesis Prime color scheme but if they wanted to do a Nemesis Prime they should’ve just called him that. I’m hoping they do a Gen Selects or Buzzworthy Bumblebee version of Scourge later on that actually uses his original color scheme.
Literally got him dirt cheap
Where did you say you got this guy again? Outside of a handful of figures I find that the bigger size transformers almost never make it to stores near me.
I love Scourge. He's the og Nemesis Prime. I'm a little bummed his colors are not completely show accurate but it's not too different to be unacceptable. I feel that 80 dollars for a leader class is not too bad.
It may be closer to nemesis prime in look, but overall I enjoy it, and it still looks like RID scourge close enough without needing a bunch of grey, but I can see why people wanted it more accurate.
I don’t really care about the deco, yet the black really looks good on this mold.
Fun fact due to hasbro saying the trailer had to be silver they didn't have enough of a budget to make the figure itself as colourful as normal rid scourge
Did you got yours from walmart or hasbro pulse?
Still waiting for my Preorder from EB Games to ship. Still can't believe they were selling this for $60 AUD.
For some reason I hated this mold as Prime but I love it as Scourge. The shoulders are really off putting but again for some reason I don't mind it on Scourge as well as some other nit picks I have with Prime.
Looking at this, the dinky arms don't bother me as much as they did on the Earthrise mold for some reason.
You've convinced me, when it finally gets to nz im getting it if and when i see it