PAIN…..just…..PAIN | Transform And Rollout Commander Of Stars Cybertron Optimus
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PAIN…..just…..PAIN | Transform And Rollout Commander Of Stars Cybertron Optimus #transformers 
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Kid named Finger is no more.
RIP finger
We need to keep this as the top comment
I'm dead lol
@Coolbrick productions funny seeing you here
Our worlds are in danger
"This video is made for adult collectors because this toy is going to slowly fall apart and die?!"
That made me laugh harder than it honestly should have.
Note: His Transformation is identical to the original toy due to screen accuracy. Cybertron was one of those shows that actually used toy models and transformations for the characters.
didn't the whole Unicron trilogy (except maybe armada) do that?
@@thecondiffs yes they did. But that's just cgi for you
Yep. Clue no have people some. Not you I’ll pick it up from its most weakest point tho
Imo, I’d say both this and the original are screen accurate in different areas. The original had the flip up battle mask but the CoS has the leg transformation completely be screen accurate. I would say some accuracy was lost in favor of others
@thecondiffs no armada was pretty much 1to1 with a few exceptions sometimes depending how they animated it.
It's so sad this thing has all these issues, because it just looks absolutely beautiful
There was so many reviews and posts about how screwed this guy’s QC was, even from the company itself. Why would someone willingly risk it after all that news?
Only 2 ways it can go: People either didn't know (because they didn't actively look for info in places where the news was first coming out) or they didn't care. Why people didn't care came down to several reasons: 1) They thought they would be the exception and somehow get a flawless copy 2) They thought the problems were easily fixable, not expecting new ones to be reported steadily 3) They liked the look so much or were so blinded by nostalgia they'd be okay with no playing with the toy at all, accepting any possible function defect.
I risked it for the biscuit, and my copy is solid. I haven't had a single finger break yet, i did some tlc on the ratchets , nd they are still holding great. My truck mode holds up good and ddoesn'tsag. I was a lucky one
Damn I’ve got this on preorder but most reviews I’ve seen on this people said is fine with no qc issues
@@RID01S most reviewers barely mess with them. Almost every copy I’ve seen elsewhere from people posting breaks in some form. The company even admitted the fingers specifically are designed to break. When a fix for that is coming who knows.
They're brainwashed Transformers fans, thats why.
I recommend the Cybertron/Galaxy Force version. Super fun to handle, and the proportions and articulation are still pretty good.
you seriously think he's not aware of that toy?
I'd recommend it too, but not for the prices people charge for it on the aftermarket
@@beepbeeplettuce5890he probably does but they are like super expensive
@@beepbeeplettuce5890 No, but he may've been hesitant to try it out because this was SUPPOSED to be the superior alternative. I'm just pointing out it's still a good option.
I have the seige version with toyhax lables and a 3rd party had 9n kit
As a little kid I had the transformers Cybertron Optimus prime and I had no idea The matrix was important. So I took it out of the chest threw it behind me and couldn't find it for years
But then the chaos god, magathoth yeeted the matrix of leadership into the farthest corners of the galaxy. Now our heros must journey across space searching or the matrix, this is
transformers: lost universe.
transformers theme ensues⚡️
@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 haha I like this
same but with BOTH VERSIONS AND THEIR PISTOLS
didnt find it at all?
@@donkeykong6426 nope not at all
Thank you for the absolute *slap* in the face with the Cybertron Theme for Nostalgia.
The most Gundam-like Optimus Prime ever.
I was so excited for this guy. I grew up on an old box set of Cybertron, so I missed out on the toyline and didnt have a single Galaxy Convoy-esque toy. And this guy looked super cool. I eventually got him and loved everything about him, and then the fingers broke. When the first one broke I went, "meh," cause they had the replacement fingers in the bag. But then they continued to break. I have run out of replacements and he's now missing both of his pinkies. Pain.
Megatron: "Tell me where the cyber plant keys are Optimus or I'll tear off your fingers!"
Optimus: "My fingers are already coming off"
Jetfire: "Crikey!"
So apparently adding links to Amazon triggers bot guards in some bot. Gotta love the irony.
Anyway, I just got up to the part about how delicate Prime's electronics are (with the entire exposed PCB having to come out just to change the battery -total noob move on their part) and as someone with electrical qualifications, I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in here.
The level of static electricity required to completely fry the doping process in semi-conductors (the doping process is where you add impurities to a semi-conductor lije carbon or sillicon to make it slightly negative in some areas and slightly positive in other areas), is way below what you feel on a static electric shock. I'd recommend anyone who is going to be touching semiconductors invest in an anti-static wristband.
For those not aware, the wristband is attached to a wire that you clip on to a metal surface, so that you're grounding yourself and discharging that static charge buildup in your body, through the metal object you've clipped the lead of the wristband to. It's a golden rule of electronics to never work with semiconductors you'll come into contact with directly, without wearing one.
I never expected to have to bring that up regarding merely handling an action figure, but then I also never expected a manufacturer to be so stupid as to expose an entire PCB of semiconductors to unititiated hands, simply to change the batteries.
Amazon sell them for around $5USD but your local hobby shop which sells electrical components, or your local computer shop, should carry them.
If you're looking for them on places like Amazon, searching for "anti-static wristband" should bring them up.
Hope my 2 cents here has helped someone out and maybe even potentially saved someone's amateir repair or hobby project.
the fingers are such a narrative, they fascinate me with their longterm storytelling
He came into stock for me when I didn't have money, and when I did ShowZStore had accidentally cancelled my order.
BULLET DODGED!
High five!
@@MunkyDrag0n He can't...he can't high five...
@@DrLockdown high one i guess?...
Transformers! Breaks before your eyes!
Transformers! Falls apart and dies!
It's pretty obvious the people making this didn't understand the intricacies of plastic types and grades. The only way this mold can be redeemed is to replace every single part's choice of plastic.
3:03
If the transformation ain't broke, don't fix. Besides the OG toy and the cartoon, that's how Cybertron Optimus should be.
Atleast it wasn't riddled with overcomplicated armatures, struts and panels, this is a breath of fresh air from the oversaturation of G1 Optimus MPs (official and 3P).
The Dude porbably wants MP-44 level
@@huyle-ob8rgAnd I despise MP-44 and hate anyone who likes it because they're the problem.
His hand is permanently rocking out
Hopefully once Fans Hobby is done with Energon, they’ll make their own Galaxy Force Convoy which will be big and the best of the best and maybe they’ll do a Wingsaber to make the Optimus Sonic Wing Mode since they’re clearly making Armada Jetfire and Armada Overload for their Armada Optimus.
Fans Hobby knows what they're doing and I'd like to see their take on it
OUR FINGERS ARE IN DANGER!!!
TO SAVE THEM AND THE GALAXY WE MUST FIND THE FOUR CYBER PLANET SPLINTS BEFORE THE DECEPTICONS CAN USE THEM FOR EVIL
@@optimistprime3192 THIS IS OUR MISSION.
@@ZERO-Shinkai HOT SHOT, HOT SHOT, HOT SHOT, HOT SHOT, HOT SHOT, HOT SHOT, HOT SHOT!
TRANSFORM AND ROLL-OUT!!!
@@AfterAllWeAreHuman what a Boring anime, they don't have Zyuranger!?
*change the channel*
@@marcusblackwell6268 😆 🤣 lol
I will patiently wait for the eventual Fans Hobby release.
Thanks for giving us the heads up!
If they stylize it again like armada optimus I'm skipping
@@Greyhoundsniper they are 3RdParty not a Straight up Copycats
@@Greyhoundsniper there's an advantage on Fanstoys though they make all the combination to their toys So don't expect much since hasbro can't even do their job properly
@@Greyhoundsniper yeah their stylization SUCKS like why can't they make it accurate? Do they realize most of us are skipping out
@@AndrewKennethColborn I always see people say this, but where’s the stylization? Like it’s more “detailed” than the show model, but toon accuracy to a fault is… a fault.
What specifically is stylized on him?
the shoulder ratchets actually have tabs under the screws on the gear..but they are so fragile and tiny and the teeth of the ratchets are long so when you rotate them, the smoll fragile tabs just break on you.....broke on mine so what i did was shaved off a bit the ratchet teeth and tightened the screws...so they now rotate on the ratchet even without the flimsy tabs....though a bit easier to rotate but at least it is still ratcheted .
I remember all the hype around the figure and felt super cautious. Mainly cause I did my research and found out their Jazz was also a QC nightmare. Lools like they're 2/2 on problems.
Man, the finger part hurt to watch. I had the Mobile Command Center as a kid and the plastic that was supposed to clip over the walls to add search lights and gun emplacements basically did that within the first couple times of playing with it, so it was like feeling that alllll over again.
I have the original Cybertron toy but it was in pretty rough ass condition. I was considering getting this a year ago since this was my first ever introduction to transformers and Optimus prime but I instead decided to try to restore the original. Boy I made the right choice judging from this review lmao
That is some super rough Q/C on a $150 toy/collectable. Hasbro hasn't had the best track record for Q/C but for the additional/rising costs they feel to have gotten a lot better in the last year or so. The original toy surprisingly has held up really well since release or has since It's sat on a shelf in combined mode unmoved for 10+ years now. Hasn't fallen anyway. The most recent iteration of the design was a cool change up but never felt to capture the epic scale/feel of the original whereas a Legacy Commander Class with love put into Armada Prime would be absolutely amazing to see.
He's got them Prime Ultra Magnus hands fr. This guy's punched too many Predacons
Was considering hunting for this at TFcon but definitely reconsidering thanks to the QC issues
Don’t get one in box. Handle it and check it out first before f you can.
@@grimprime0158 That will only help in the moment. Besides, the issues seem to be nearly universal. The engineering seems to be inherently flawed.
Your warning at the start is probably my favorite one so far out of all your videos
I do find it funny that so far the first most successful UT Prime update to release after the original toy is Energon Optimus from Fans Hobby.
Proof that Energon Optimus is the best Optimus design.
This desperately needs a 2.0 release
Cybertron is one of those few moments where the toys absolutely SLAP! I've yet to see a remake that even comes close to the originals.
for its fragility and engineering issues, it honestly might've been better if it was like a model kit so you could tighten and loosen things before assembly as needed. Like yeah transformers usually isnt a model market but to get this thing where it needs to be you're putting in modeller work to make it function normally.
At this point, buyers may as well use it as a really heavy and expensive model because any tinkering causes new failures to be reported.
0:03 slowly fall apart
Thanks for getting the best intro music for transformers in my head
The extra fingers I don’t think were in the box. Distributors were supposed to send them with the figure. That might actually be on TFSafari, and the new fingers are allegedly better quality.
They weren't. Same plastic. Also, user in German reported pins way too large for the thickness of the fingers. Makes no structural sense. Any and all fingers should be treated as ticking time bombs. Some users reported fingers not being able to be produced as fast as people were breaking them and having to wait weeks for replacements if they'd even get them at all.
They were handed one of the coolest designs in transformers history on a silver platter, all they had to do was make him somewhat durable T_T
I cant imagine anyone will trust this company with anything again, so I mean.. why not print a whole-ass autobot logo, right? They're probably not gonna survive long enough to get sued
Regarding the key, Transform and Rollout didn’t actually make that one, which is why there isn’t a slot for it. It’s provided by the distributor, so it likely won’t come with people who preordered from TFSource or BBTS.
Why does the key activate the electronics, then? It was planned to have the key but they decided on a magnetic activation gimmick instead of a slot?
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Magnets activate the electronics, which is a very common feature in 3P light gimmicks. The key was included by the distributor and has a magnet built into it so that it can activate the electronics.
My Optimus came in a few months ago and the only issue was the fingers, obviously replaced them and just figured to keep his fist closed other than that it's perfect
Optimus trying to be spider man with that hand 😂
Nice to see a Prime whose had a run-in with the mafia judging by those fingers.
Same thing happened to mine. It astounds me that a toy that was in production for almost half a decade ammounts to this. I'm willing to bet that the amount of die-cast was used to justify artifically inflating the price on this thing.
Do the spares work better
I was so god damn hyped for this toy as cybertron optimus is my first transformer toy ever- dear god now I’m worried
Remember that episode where spongebob breaks his own fingers while cracking his knuckles? This figure is literally that.
I remember my history with the toy was that when I got it, it was way back when the first deposits on Showz were available.
It came up conveniently at 120 instead of 150 on my orders, so I sprung, and I specifically sprung much later because with early adoption on non-regulated toys (i.e. third party that hasn't had a good deal of history of releases), QC errors rears its head.
Now, he sits in his box, unopened out of fear he'll crumble
I wanna bring him out so badly, but if he breaks, I think my heart will break because I was hoping this was gonna be the toy to replace my need for Siege and to avoid Galaxy Force Optimus Scalpers.
I don't think I'll ever really take him out of the box unless Transform and Rollout release fingers that are at the very least guaranteed to not break as badly as these, and maybe also a fix for the ratchet shoulder to make sure it can actually stand the test of time.
They will not. They came out with a statement on how to fix the shoulder ratchets by gluing the spokes to the arm and lubricating the ring. That's all they are going to do. They are not going to fix the mold. They won't even reimburse you if the ring breaks.
@@MunkyDrag0n Welp, that's a dampener for that one... Looks like I'll need to find a guide on at least giving some longevity to the plastic.
Well i didn't put his hands in water hot water precisely. Yeah some did break out the box too but i put a bunch of oil in it and that actually works too it saved the ones that didn't. I did like mod the shoulders to actually work nicely now. His thigh swivels were yes really tight took applied the same thing to the shoulder, works great. What i did was did light sanding the the part that doesn't rotate, i didn't sand the gear. I did glue it like they recommend works great now feels fantastic and still very TIGHT
Welp, heres hoping the Fans Hobby version will be better.
The worst thing is the price. My god, Transformers prices have gotten absolutely unacceptable across the board
Because the costs of manufacturing and transportation are going up, in addition to inflation.
There are more QC issues on this thing than a mainline Hasbro figure. I think I'll stick with my galaxy upgrade optimus from the siege line.
I remember having a variation of this as a kid (official toy I think) and it was fire. The again it may be nostalgia talking lol
I NEED that original toy someday
@@ThatToyGuy so I think it's in easily accessible storage because I loved it so much. I think there was one of the blasters the went on the leg in truck mode was missing and I remember trying so hard to find a for parts one to replace that blaster part. It wasn't the stock color scheme either it was a black and red version.
I just gotta pray for either a upgrade set to fix it's issues or for T&R to fix the issues in a 3rd/4th pre order batch
I have the figure and I agree. Wait for an upgrade or a later wave as I hope they make the fingers out of better materials and with straight pins as well. Like the entire left hand on my copy shattered out of the box and I’m scared to mess with the replacements as the plastic they’re made of doesn’t feel great
I'd advise against ever touching this company again. They released these figures in such a state thinking it was okay. Imagine if a game developer put out a broken game. Would you give them a second, third, or fourth chance?
That intro was baller af!
got hands like a fireworks technician named "lucky"
I don't mind the simplistic transformation, because it's that simplicity that made the original such a great toy, and actually rather have it have thr same teansformation just like in the show.
But all I wanted, *all I wanted* was a a version of the originak that looked and felt more premium/proportional to the cartoon. I have no idea how you manage to fail so hard at something like that when you have the same transformation. Like how did they mess up on QC so bad. One day I hope we get either an official or third party that does this idea justice
When I first saw the prototype and stock shots for this figure, I was STOKED. FINALLY, a third-party Cybertron figure! I placed my pre-order on BigBadToyStore months ago in the hopes of receiving it. However, seeing some of the reviews come out for it now, and all the Quality Control issues...
...You know how reality hits you like a truck sometimes? This was a bit more literal. I cancelled my pre-order after seeing all the QC issues...
This figure performs the "roger rabbit" effect the masterpiece beast wars figures pulled off, but its QC flaws give it the fragility of fucking tissue paper.
This is one of those figures you display in a glass case or put back in the box and never touch again. You dust it, you breathe on it, you even look at it wrong and BOOM! plastic meltdown. Anyone else getting Vietnam Flashbacks or is it just me?
I think for the time being, until Transform and Rollout works out the QC issues, I'll save my money... or wait for the fated day the Maketoys "Galaxy Manus" concept finally gets a prototype. (I know Maketoys hasn't done anything in a while except for that Rioter Galvatron they're working on... but a guy can dream, can't he?)
The intro gave me so many memories and emotions
This figures cyberkey is a conspiracy and you can’t tell me otherwise.
looks cool,I had the original Cybertron Optimus Prime, lost it between some changes, haven't found it yet
Thank you. I pre-ordered this but there was complications so I’m glad I didn’t re-order it.
Our hands are in danger.
This figure is doing its best TFP Magnus impression...
(*ROTB reference when Mirage said "Yeah, I'm walking to Peru")
Yeah, I'm waiting for the Legacy remake of Galaxy Convoy.
I genuinely forgot this existed for a moment. Thought it released and we were moving on because I dont collect really anything other than mainline out of poor
*AUTOBOTS! DECEPTICONS! G O !*
2:32 yeah no joke. Ground vehicle ARE SUPPOSED TO STAY ON THE GROUND.
Dude looks like he waded hip-deep into car wax and then went home 😂
Who else was absolutely vibing with cybertron intro? Ah my childhood!
BAM! 2:13 it looks like somebody climbed on top of the cab and slipped and hit their head onto the guns.
16:35 TR didn't make that cyber key. Apparently the cyber key is a preorder bonus from the distributor not affiliated with TR. The retailers will get it through their distributor. In other words it's just a gift from the retailers for ordering the Commander of the stars figure.
y'know, GUOP isn't so bad all things considered, I'd like hasbro to give it another go with its own dedicated mold, but its fine for now
I was gonna get this, and was one of those who was wondering if the company had died off, but once I saw reviews for it I decided to go with Fans Hobby's Energon Prime instead as I knew that would actually be like *durable* and such.
And they'll probably make the Cybertron mold soon.
Most likely, I'll probably get it if they do.
Love this figure just hate my light up feature came broken but not a big deal. The fingers though is ridiculous I'm glad I got replacement ones but that shouldn't be needed
"Our worlds are in danger, to save them and the galaxy, we must collect the four cyber planet keys before the Decepticons use them for evil!"
cybertron was my childhood and i never had this figure as a kid. i picked up the regular leader class from 04 and even the hybrid mini figure, this should have been an easy pick up. but when i saw the images it looked identical to the original. lack of anything novel is why i didn’t fire on this. it just feels a skinnier prime, coupled with the issues you have im glad i didn’t pick this up
Did anyone well who has it too anyway notice like the wrists joint is on a ratchet joint? I thought they made it in a way where it was like a slip joint or something for the wrists but it doesn't which it interesting lol
from what I have been told, the QC issues are being addressed. I just hope replacement parts, especially for the hands, will be offered to customers who bought this
Source please, because I've heard exactly the opposite. I've heard qc issues are now so widespread, they've told bombusbee users they have "no intention of doing anything [about the issues]." Latest batch has 2 left thumbs on the figure and only left thumbs in the bag of replacements. Also 2 left backpack straps, so one actually flips upward making super mode unusable.
They did my boi dirty
11:58 the real revenge of the fallen because jet powered optimus did cut fallen's fingers in fight
my issues are a wobbly leg because of the waist/hip joint, and a wobbly arm at the elbow
Wow I matrix dodged a bullet there when I passed on this guy. Also poor SG starscream banished to the darkness of the top shelf.
This Optimus figure suffers from TFP Ultra Magnus syndrome
You should have put him in a pose where he was sad over losing his fingers.
I am glad I got a good copy from Agabyss. They're sending me another copy of the fingers incase any of them break.
Call the company and tell them you never got the extra fingers
Bro got the prime Magnus hand
I’m glad I still have the original Cybertron release, though his hips have given up. The Siege mold is more Magnus in execution but I still enjoy it. I was hyped to get this but the broken hands? And the die cast? Have we learned nothing...
I can feel RAGE!
BY SEEING THE BROKEN HAND!
in the end, u feeled the true meaning of PAIN
just like in naruto
I'm definitely waiting for the inevitable Fans Hobby one, it's just a matter of time till they get to it in my opinion
I feel like if the shoulder ratchets actually worked they’d break 💀
I'll be patient imma wait for FansToys Cybertron Megs and Prime
Ya mean Fans Hobby, right? They made the Unicron Trilogy figs
@@angelriverasantana7755 maybe 3-5 years from now imma be patient
Also seems on point for the original because he has hip ratchets forward and back and mine were broken OUT THE BOX NEW IN 04 or 05 i forget. I felt it was dumb when I was a kid like he had a big ass backpack and he falls backwards. Wasn't till recently i knew he had leg ratchets and they break too also dumb design i fixed that too recently.
“If you yank it you’ll break it”
Forget the shoulder ratchets, ask yourself why they thought it was necessary to put ratchets in the thigh rotation, a joint that will NEVER need to support any weight. Your best bet is to remove the ratchet ring and just make it a friction joint, and bonus you now have replacements for the shoulders.
The toy should have come with replacement fingers, the brittle finger plastic was a known issue and T&RO chose to give people new fingers rather than recall the batch.
I am hoping that they release new hands that have the first finger articulated and the rest of the fingers molded as a single part, or molded together with hinges. There is no reason for this toy (or most toys) to have fully articulated hands.
Overall I like this figure, and considering that it is onlyT&RO's second figure in the eight-ish years they've been around, I kinda figured it would have some issues.
I feel like i might put his hands in hot water to see like if they can loosen up possibly?
Here's hoping FansHobby will release their version someday? I mean they have to complete their Unicron trilogy of Optimus Prime's and Megatron's!
how they managed to take a figure as awesome as cybertron optimus and make it a mulched piece of shit it beyond me
yes all the pain
well they make a motormaster recolor of this?
there was a legends universe menasor that used the legends Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus
Keep makeing more of this now