LOL... yup...I've said much worse in the past but had to edit it out... have to remember some people might be watching with their kids... or... my kids might even be watching lol... Either way, glad you enjoyed the video
I remember racing against these back in the 90's with my Yokomo YZ-10. The Cats were fast, when they worked, and the drivers always were in "don't come near me"-mode in the pits because of the terrible engineering those cars possessed, but I still respected them. The YZ was a model of simplicity, and all of us who ran them had nothing to do on the cars between heats. The only place where we played second fiddle was very bumpy tracks, and also if we snapped a front a-arm. The Kyosho Optima guys had similar experiences, with the exception of the a-arms. (they were like tanks)
Having started with Schumacher in '87 with the CAT XL to now with the LD2 and L1R it's safe to say that they do things a bit differently lol Most of the time for the better but not always 😆 Great stuff though, always a blast!
The ProCat has a special place for me as I raced one as a kid, in the UK this was an incredibly popular 4WD track car (a bit like how the RC10 was the dominant 2WD car to the US). It's definitely one of the more challenging builds but it's totally worth it. Light maintenance isn't too bad once it is all put together, changing motors, pinions and spur gears is super easy. The standard front pulley is a bit of a fiddle to keep the belt running straight so I recommend the Pro Transmission so you have the the side fences which prevent the belt being able to get too far off-centre. The Muzzoom Models ball raced steering upgrade is also a nice upgrade as the stock set up tends to be a little stiff and the then the bolts like to work themselves loose after a fair bit of track time. It is a lovely looking car too and the paint scheme on yours is very nice!
I still have nightmares about the wing orings (will try out that tip next time). Really shocked with how well the car rotates! It looked really good on track. I only have the 2wd cars...but the build is about the same. It's a different sort of build if you are adjusted to gold-pans and Losi cars for sure. None the less it does feel good on the bench (and on the hands) when completed. Great video brother!
Im loving that Body Ari 👌 looks sweet as a nut. The best way to fit the servo saver is leave it the bag, and lob it in the bin 😁 once you get the knack for the drive shafts and wing rubbers, there a piece of cake to put together, i love my procat, but going to be running a kyosho mid for a change. But the procat will be there on stand bye 😎
Schumacher is definitely harder to assemble than Tamiya. The servosaver was tricky. But all-in-all a satisfying build process. And fun to see other solutions than what Tamiya has 🙂
@@RCRetromaintenance was a pain with this car back in the ,90s .the servo saver was the easy bit😁. They put thought into protecting the car in crashes which was a nice touchTheir new stuff is all easy access to diffs to maintain now.
Just finished my build and dropped in a super fast servo with an xl5 motor and esc it is the highest quality best engineered work of art out there but the cat xls is prettier! Nice video man!
In my Cougar build I threw that servo saver away as I could not make heads or tails of it and stuck a Kimbrough on there I had on hand, that one works great and 1000% easier to put on! Those rubber bands holding the wing on were a royal PITA as well!! Not a fan of those either. I'd rather just replace the wing if it got damaged than fight with those things again! It looked like it ran really well and the paint job is fantastic! Sadly my Schumacher is in a storage box waiting for ne transmission parts as the layshaft stripped out which seems to be a very common failure in them.
Never really found much problem building them back in the day, found it all quite relaxing on Christmas day in the 80s and 90s, won quite a few championships with those little buggys. Might want to look into getting some roller driveshafts for the rear, as it improves traction considerably over the bumps. The Bosscat is a vast improvement, very predictable handling.
Love my procat, did the 13.5 justock and some holeshot tires, runs faster then my pro4 at the track. And have been wanting to ask, where did you get that lunchbox print in the background? I love it
Hey Ari from Down Under, I was of the same opinion with the wing (TopCat), really annoying, considering the ORings disintergrated by just sitting on the shelf! I can see the front arm bands are also looking old (not even 3 years old) just siting on shelf. That servo saver - just needs a twist to push on and flip over and turn clockwise. In saying that - I ended up taking it off and direct connected a servo horn lol With the wing - i ended up bolting it to the wing stays..I get the design, but hundreds of other brands cant be wrong with a tried and true design with normal screws and wing buttons..
Agreed.. Its like Schumacher decided to do everything opposite of the "standard". It runs awesome but I'm not looking forward to the maintenance on here.
Hopefully received as constructive criticism, but isn't your track dominated by hairpins? You can open up the last corner easily... Maybe other modifications too? Love the channel. 👍
Hi and thanks for the feedback. The track is not mine but I see what you're talking about regarding the hairpin turns. I am thinking of creating a very small track as well just to showcase cars up close in action. It would end up being hairpin turns as well to maximize space. Queens, New York have tiny, tiny, tiny backyards. Again, thanks for the comment and support. More great content coming your way...
Did you prematurely comment lol.... First, I was filming myself testing out the buggy with a GoPro stuck to my head which is why the car was at a distance. Then I filmed up closer when Phil was driving. I"m sure you saw that....
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The low-key “what the f$&k?” Had me laughing, man. Hilarious.
LOL... yup...I've said much worse in the past but had to edit it out... have to remember some people might be watching with their kids... or... my kids might even be watching lol... Either way, glad you enjoyed the video
It looks so much fun driving a Pro Cat. Probably going to get one for myself.
I remember racing against these back in the 90's with my Yokomo YZ-10. The Cats were fast, when they worked, and the drivers always were in "don't come near me"-mode in the pits because of the terrible engineering those cars possessed, but I still respected them. The YZ was a model of simplicity, and all of us who ran them had nothing to do on the cars between heats. The only place where we played second fiddle was very bumpy tracks, and also if we snapped a front a-arm. The Kyosho Optima guys had similar experiences, with the exception of the a-arms. (they were like tanks)
Having started with Schumacher in '87 with the CAT XL to now with the LD2 and L1R it's safe to say that they do things a bit differently lol Most of the time for the better but not always 😆 Great stuff though, always a blast!
Awesome, and that paintwork is on point!
Thank you. I wanted to use the same colors just something a little different then box art
The ProCat has a special place for me as I raced one as a kid, in the UK this was an incredibly popular 4WD track car (a bit like how the RC10 was the dominant 2WD car to the US). It's definitely one of the more challenging builds but it's totally worth it. Light maintenance isn't too bad once it is all put together, changing motors, pinions and spur gears is super easy. The standard front pulley is a bit of a fiddle to keep the belt running straight so I recommend the Pro Transmission so you have the the side fences which prevent the belt being able to get too far off-centre. The Muzzoom Models ball raced steering upgrade is also a nice upgrade as the stock set up tends to be a little stiff and the then the bolts like to work themselves loose after a fair bit of track time. It is a lovely looking car too and the paint scheme on yours is very nice!
Awesome buddy. Love the Procat. Really need to get mine done.
I still have nightmares about the wing orings (will try out that tip next time). Really shocked with how well the car rotates! It looked really good on track. I only have the 2wd cars...but the build is about the same. It's a different sort of build if you are adjusted to gold-pans and Losi cars for sure. None the less it does feel good on the bench (and on the hands) when completed. Great video brother!
Im loving that Body Ari 👌 looks sweet as a nut. The best way to fit the servo saver is leave it the bag, and lob it in the bin 😁 once you get the knack for the drive shafts and wing rubbers, there a piece of cake to put together, i love my procat, but going to be running a kyosho mid for a change. But the procat will be there on stand bye 😎
Schumacher is definitely harder to assemble than Tamiya. The servosaver was tricky. But all-in-all a satisfying build process. And fun to see other solutions than what Tamiya has 🙂
Agreed.. Very different. Quality build materials but not looking forward to maintenance.
@@RCRetromaintenance was a pain with this car back in the ,90s .the servo saver was the easy bit😁. They put thought into protecting the car in crashes which was a nice touchTheir new stuff is all easy access to diffs to maintain now.
@@RCRetro Schumacher building is all about patience. Better to walk away and go back to it 🤣
Just finished my build and dropped in a super fast servo with an xl5 motor and esc it is the highest quality best engineered work of art out there but the cat xls is prettier! Nice video man!
@rcretro what size pinion gear did you use in this build please?
Loved the video BTW
In my Cougar build I threw that servo saver away as I could not make heads or tails of it and stuck a Kimbrough on there I had on hand, that one works great and 1000% easier to put on! Those rubber bands holding the wing on were a royal PITA as well!! Not a fan of those either. I'd rather just replace the wing if it got damaged than fight with those things again! It looked like it ran really well and the paint job is fantastic! Sadly my Schumacher is in a storage box waiting for ne transmission parts as the layshaft stripped out which seems to be a very common failure in them.
That is the easy part of the build ,even the wife worked it out in seconds when she built a mission touring car
Never really found much problem building them back in the day, found it all quite relaxing on Christmas day in the 80s and 90s, won quite a few championships with those little buggys. Might want to look into getting some roller driveshafts for the rear, as it improves traction considerably over the bumps. The Bosscat is a vast improvement, very predictable handling.
I bent a paper clip to pull the o-rings through to the wing mounts on mine. Makes those final steps much easier.
The servo saver is tricky to understand but once you realise it twists round it's not too bad. Works well once assembled though
That thing looks nice and drives easy.
Great Video! All in All, if you had to pick one which would you choose: This Schumacher ProCat or the Kyosho Mid Optima?
Optima Mid hands down...
Love my procat, did the 13.5 justock and some holeshot tires, runs faster then my pro4 at the track.
And have been wanting to ask, where did you get that lunchbox print in the background? I love it
That car is a jet. Mental note "don't race Phil for money"
Hey Ari from Down Under, I was of the same opinion with the wing (TopCat), really annoying, considering the ORings disintergrated by just sitting on the shelf! I can see the front arm bands are also looking old (not even 3 years old) just siting on shelf. That servo saver - just needs a twist to push on and flip over and turn clockwise. In saying that - I ended up taking it off and direct connected a servo horn lol With the wing - i ended up bolting it to the wing stays..I get the design, but hundreds of other brands cant be wrong with a tried and true design with normal screws and wing buttons..
Agreed.. Its like Schumacher decided to do everything opposite of the "standard". It runs awesome but I'm not looking forward to the maintenance on here.
Such an excellent paint job!! I ship you mine to paint for money? Thanks!
Someday I’ll build a Schumacher kit.. I’ve always wanted one since the early days because my last name is Shumaker
Hopefully received as constructive criticism, but isn't your track dominated by hairpins? You can open up the last corner easily... Maybe other modifications too? Love the channel. 👍
Hi and thanks for the feedback. The track is not mine but I see what you're talking about regarding the hairpin turns. I am thinking of creating a very small track as well just to showcase cars up close in action. It would end up being hairpin turns as well to maximize space. Queens, New York have tiny, tiny, tiny backyards. Again, thanks for the comment and support. More great content coming your way...
The Brits engineer their RC cars like they do their full-sized counterparts, like a Rube Goldberg device.
what size pinion are you using
I was wondering the same as i have the same motor in my build
time for a kimbrough servo saver.
You might be right...
Doesn’t get any better than this - that build though can suck it I hate messing with the cat/Procat 😁
i cant see the car running, its to far out !!!! looks like matchbox car or hotwheels.
Did you prematurely comment lol.... First, I was filming myself testing out the buggy with a GoPro stuck to my head which is why the car was at a distance. Then I filmed up closer when Phil was driving. I"m sure you saw that....
Race race it.
Say NO!!! to shelf queens ....... have you not watched Toy Story ? They need to be played with or they go crazy :)