Growing Crops With Just Electricity
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Photosynthesis is unfortunately less efficient than we’d all like it to be, but with a little bit of help, plants might not need any light at all to grow.
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The power saving for indoor weed would be game changing
Bro, on god🤣
Weed is the reason that I clicked on this video
all about that sun grown weed Baby
Aren't we already growing indoors?....ah it's a joke yeah2 that would be great for some people 🙃
@@expendablewater7474 The sun is the best grow light but, a HPS bulb is a close second.
As anybody with some publishing experience will know: "Why didn't they try growing plants in the dark?" => "They did, my friend. They did."
Yeah probably full-dark was not good for plants, they probably use light for more than just the photosyntetic process
@@ratgr yes, plants need sunlight to absorb water into their leafs. When water is converted into co2 and oxygen, the plant gets rid of it and that allows more water to be absorbed. This motion and other bioreactions could be the reason why only a little of the sunlight energy is converted into sugar; there are other reactions that require the energy from the sun to facilitate the construction of nutrients.
@@ratgr For me it also sounds counterintuitive. Getting rid of the reason the lettuce plants needs green leafes and expect the plant to grow big green leafes :D
@@blablup1214 OH RIGHT
That is mind blowing. The fact that plants could do this, shows that there is so much potential in the natural world that is yet unknown and untapped.
It's not that surprising. We have used sugar to grow plant cells in dark for few decades already.
@@user255 We Have?!
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Time for me to Re-learn Everything!!
I know that Fungi and lichen does this,but would love to know a little more?!!
@@AndreaDingbatt Not sure what to tell. Example "callus culture" is often done in dark (google it to learn more). It is used as a step example in GM tech, chemical manufacturing (secondary metabolites) and plant propagation.
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There are also several species of parasitic albino plants that do similar by feeding on the nutrients produced by other plants. Sometimes even members of their own species. So the fact that some plants especially simple plants like algae could grow in such a medium without light makes perfect sense.
3:01 light provides important developmental cues for multicellular plants and they will typically not develop normally without light. to grow crops using this method in complete darkness you would need to first breed the plants (or genetically modify them) to grow normally in reduced or no light conditions.
Cool.
Makes sense and tracks with my learning.
I wonder if that is a contributing role to the acetate grown lettuce being meaker then the control
Still, this would allow for bare minimum light produced and thus still be more energy efficient and cost effective.
I sometimes wonder if skyscraper-sized grow towers would be viable for crop production. Water could be contained and semi-recycled within the grow tower skyscraper. Plants could also receive natural and artificial light in a regulated manner. While waste and food scraps could be used to produce nutrients for the plants.
That is what vertical farming is, which could also save a lot of space and limits the need to cut down rainforests for agriculture purposes.
If you’re relying on natural light, then no. The amount of crops you can grow indoors with sunlight only coming in through the windows is not nearly enough to make up for the expensive cost of building vertically as opposed to planting them in ordinary dirt or putting them in a greenhouse.
Vertical farms have become relatively commercially viable within their niche of fresh city crops though the viability differs a lot from farm to farm, and all use artificial light. Most do recycle their water in order to cut down on costs, and the big selling point of vertical farms is reducing water usage for plants, especially greens and fruits and vegetables which are thirsty plants.
The difficulty would be getting the water up there. It's not free energy to pump water that high. You can only pump water as high as the tallest water tower without putting a LOT of energy into it.
@@Treviisolion of course if this acetate growth model works out, we could easily replace all traditional farms with vertical farming.
That's going to take a while to sort out naturally but it is exciting to think about.
if we could have unlimited energy from Fusion reactors
Plants 1% efficient. Solar panels 22% efficient. If they can GMO our crops to accept acetate, it will be an agricultural revolution. Maybe even 15 underground fields being supported by a field of solar panels on the surface.
better idea. Make food (sugar, proteins) from energy and mass. Dont need middleman like plants.
@@Menelutorex that's called fusion and it's not energy viable yet unless you do it in a star and melt your face off. The alternative to that would be cold fusion and if you figure out how to do that then some guys in black suits an sunglasses would like a word with you.
@@Menelutorex meet you in the middle and just make it from chemicals, we got hella carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen
@@meltossmedia I believe there's a few companies making meal replacement drinks along the same lines already. One company has even had the irony to call it's product Soylent. I have seen some videos and read some articles that pose some health and safety concerns about said products so buyer beware as the saying goes. All and all its hard to beat nature at this game. it's been playing it for a long time and autotrophy is a hard life to live just ask the lichen living on the rocks.
@@johnathanbrandt2526 what's ya talking about here? Fusion is viable, heck you can hack a neon tube to fuse
Getting enough energy out of fusion compared to what you put in is the goal line we haven't crossed yet.
But we have gotten more then we put in, a long time ago.
Just not enough to cover line losses and conversation losses in power transmission.... or enough to make up for destorying the entire reactor chamber.
Oh. Ya. Then there is the hydrogen bomb+a reeeeealy deep hole. A.k.a. the back-up plan it. Would work.... and only with mild earthquakes!
They should call this new liquid "Brawndo", its what plants crave.
In college (I was a horticulture student), I got my hands on a mutant seedling which produced no chlorophyll. Basically, you could call it a failed undergrad attempt. Wish I looked into this then.
Is no one questioning what photosynthesis has to do with yeast?!
lol apparently not :) rather good point you have there!!!!!!
Well, I don't see why we should remove light from the equation entirely. A balance can be achieved between this and artificial lights which would be most efficient without changing plant genome completely.
If we are talking the Sci Fi idea of a colony on Mars, you are going to need a lot of light anyway just to keep the human population alive and sane.
Glow in the dark mushrooms? 🤷♀️😂
@@hattielankford4775 I hope, would look cool
@@hattielankford4775 I ate one and it recharged my batteries!
@@irononreverse I knew someone would take it there. I just didn't know it would be so soon.
1:14 you can use optimized grow lights now with the right spectrum and wave lengths where plants can use much more of the light or energy than from sunlight
It's cool to see that they used heavy carbon to track the acetate uptake, which is exactly how we figured out photosynthesis at first
I mean, it's not an uncommen method in cell-biology. But I know what you mean :)
"Brawndo! It's what plants crave."
Life is becoming a parody of itself.
It’s got electrolytes.
ow! my balls
I hope they're planning on doing testing to see if the plants will be safe for animal and human consumption. Plants have sugars still left in them at the point of consumption, and so they will likely also still have the acetate. This would definitely be good for decorative houseplants though. Sometimes it's really hard to keep a plant in sufficient light when all you have is windows to work with. Even when the weather is nice, it's slightly time consuming to check the plants and move them from window to window to keep them in as much light as possible to encourage healthy and thick growth. It also would be great for starting seeds, to make sure they don't become leggy from lack of sunlight if they sprout during an overcast week.
I know you don't _need_ to, but I'd be strongly tempted to power such a process with solar cells for thematic consistency.
Holy smokes
well solarpanels are 20% efficient so you could grow 20x more crops
@@ninosegers That's without taking into account the inefficiency present in acetate production and use, so probably lower than that. But I could still see there being room for very substantial gains.
Or you could use nuclear power, have it cheaper and with less environmental damage.
@@Borsuk3344 "less environmental damage"
I wonder what this "acetate" is, and why the chemical prefix is not mentioned? I'm pretty sure you can't just use any acetate compound you feel like?
The original article states that they were forming and using sodium acetate and potassium acetate. The one formed depended on which electrolyte they were using, NaOH or KOH.
@@adamwhitney3935 oh ok. I'm late to the party, but thanks 👍
While I'm guessing it's less, did they mention how much electricy was used for the electrocatalysis compared to a good quality grow LED light?
Annoyingly they mention the conversion rate efficiency but not the energy efficiency
And more annoying the paper mentions that they designed thier own electrolysis system to reach 80% conversion of the CO2.
So I think thier target is space based and they don't really care all that much.
But all said, commercial electrolysis is reaching 80% of the predicted quantum limit to break down hydrogen, I would imagine simular for hydrogen.
And I realized while reading the nature article; they are producing straight ATP to convert into food for the plants. ATP is what our bodies convert sugars and fats into. Pretty cool stuff
Mushrooms would probably be a staple food in a Mars colony.
If you can feed them. Mushrooms usually require manure, wood chips/sawdust/hardwood logs, straw, etc as a substrate. Which we would have to ship in.
I don't think so. Mushrooms don't harness solar energy like plants do. They just take energy from other organisms and change it into something else. They're basically the same as animals, meaning you have to feed them something. Which raises the question, why feed an animal and then eat the animal when you can just feed yourself directly? On earth this doesn't really matter because we have an abundance of energy so we can afford to be wasteful. But on Mars, that wouldn't be an option. At least not at the initial stage when energy is scarce.
@@feynstein1004 dude, you can feed them poop.
@@samsonsoturian6013 Looks like you're not familiar with the first law of thermodynamics. Let me ask you this. Based on what you're saying, you can create an infinite loop. Feed the mushroom to the people, then feed the poop to the mushrooms. If that were possible, why would a thing such as famine ever exist?
@@feynstein1004 Let me google how to care from mushrooms... Mushrooms consume oxygen rather than produce it, comprende? That would be a complication as you would need CO2 consuming plants as well.
Thank you for this information.💕
Great stuff guys
Seems like a glimpse into the future of growing food. Fascinating!
Really really cool, thanks for the video
This is actually super cool
Love the content!
Now THIS I'll watch!
Thanks for your sharing
The whole reason they grow outside is so we don't see the salad dressing
You are my hero for today Daniel. Thank you.
I'd love to see skyscrapers solely dedicated to growing crops.
Thanks for a cool video with a decent sponsor!
I wonder how quickly this could be used to increase yields in cultivation of mushrooms, brewers yeast, edible cyanobacteria and algae, and white asparagus.
Current vertical farms use specific wavelengths of light to increase efficiency. Adding acetate in the proper concentration the water and growth meeting may further increase their growth.
I knew it! Solar powered farm blocks here we come! I just hope we will have food diversity and not just one bland plant.
'if i told you that a flower bloom in a dark room would you trust me' -KL
This reminds me of those plants that can grow without sunlight in Stray.
Yes, it's amazing how science is outpacing science fiction these days
For indoor farming I've wondered if it would be reasonable to use something like fiber optics and solar funnels covering the outside of the building to capture sunlight and provide it to every floor evenly, a dispersion material could spread out the concentrated sunlight on each growing platform, all of the benefits of indoor farming in terms of space and water usage but a reduction in power costs and lighting needs, if this could work it would be very sustainable. I'd love to hear any arguments for or against this idea, at the very least it would reduce the amount of power needed for indoor vertical farming facilities, if integrated into a city sunlight could be gathered from multiple buildings feeding into a single farming facility so the necessary lighting for large crop loads would be achievable.
I was expecting that, instead of direct electricity, the design would emulate an inversion of lichen, where a fungus or other microbe either made a chemical, collection of chemicals or environmental condition to fill in the missing interaction. I feel you forgot to explicitly state that the new urban farming would replace light (like today's LED-lit bays) with something modern cities have -- electricity. Generally, just plain neat ☺
You still need an energy source for that. You can't just cheat physics unfortunately 😅
@@feynstein1004 obv but it would be way more efficient than light in theory
@@heinzarniaung2915 Doubtful
0:28 there is a single frame left over from a different shot in between cuts
Great. Now I can grow a garden in my basement.
ikr gotta put them kids to work!
apparently people have never heard of grow lights?
Awesome! Seems promising to our future as mole people when temperatures above are so high we might as well start digging down and spend part of the year underground. :P
3:22 Personally, I think it's because of the high acetate concentration that plant growth was stunted, not because of the potassium cancentration. I regularly use cleaning vinager (8% acetic acid solution) to kill weeds on my property, so clearly a high concentration of acetate is detrimental to plant growth.
Now that is potentially amazing. Imagine the possibilities...
2:24 Ah yes, yeast fungus that requires light.
what about using other photosynthetic processes? c4 or C6, idk, the one cacti and bromeliads use in their thick leaves
Useful for space plants
I'll read all the articles provided in the links and try this out at home .... gotta look if I've got any KOH left at home
I’m so excited about this
Wooooo let’s grow some eletrolettuce!
I think that instead of Potassium Acetate (the complaint was that the Potassium was present, so I guess that Potassium Acetate was used), they could have used Ammonium Acetate. That way the plants could also get a boost of Nitrogen instead of getting stunted by the Potassium.
Then I do think they need the assistance of a fungus or bacteria to convert ammonia into nitrate. IIRC, plants can't readily use ammonia.
I don't think the potassium was entirely deliberate. The way the acetate production works is by supplying electrons direct to microorganisms, but they need a specific growth medium, which presumably includes quite a lot of potassium. In order for it to be viable the product will have to work with little extra processing, so switching the potassium for ammonium might not be viable. Starting with a decent amount of ammonium bicarbonate might work though.
nice tittle on this one strait forward and understandable
Thanks brother
I’m trying to grow succulents in a north facing apartment in Canada, so this would be helpful to me
This is exciting. Will this revolutionize food production? This could greatly improve out off planet ventures.
how about collecting lots of light with mirrors, combining them to a single strong beam directed underground.
filtering this beam with prisms, to only direct the useful spectrum onto beam splitters, which direct the light to the end destination onto diffusers
That would take more effort then just getting there in the first place
As far as I am aware there are some plants that do grow in the dark (eg mushrooms & rhubarb) while some can grow in low light. In an urban enviro some crops can be grown in basements or indoors, and rooftops for plants that prefer full light.
mushrooms are actually fungus, ie animals, not plants though, so they don't use photosynthesis. Mushrooms are an obvious food option to look at for low light settings though aren't they
& where do you get the info on rhubarb from? I just looked it up & can't find anything supporting it growing well in anything other than full sun
@@mehere8038 Perhaps focus on the "food crop" thing rather than the "plant" thing. Mushroom are extremely vetsatile in a variety of sectors. As a vegetarian - I "live" on mushrooms. Yum!
My main point was about using the best urban spaces to suit crop preferences. And mushrooms are cheaper than lab-grown or plant-based meats...
@@CitiesForTheFuture2030 yes agreed! Mushrooms make much more sense than this stuff! Imagine the flavours & growth abilities we could achieve with as much effort put into them as is being put into this research! HIGHLY space efficient too! I calculated that I could actually produce my entire calorie needs from just my spare room used in mushroom growing, IF I really wanted to (and didn't count the space to grow the mushroom substrate)
btw, I'm reading the comments still & stumbled across one explaining the rhubarb in the dark thing, researching that though (I'd never heard of it before the comments) & it doesn't actually grow in the dark, but in the light for 2 years, then they grow the stems in the dark from the existing plant energy, so it doesn't actually grow in the dark, it's just growing like a bulb does
@@mehere8038 My country doesn't "do" rhubarb much. I saw a clip on the "rhubarb triangle" in the UK on the QI show. Yes, part of the growing occurs in the sunshine - on a rooftop? Since. It looks like white asparagus also does well in the dark.
I've been a veggie for around 30 years now and mushrooms where always a budget protein source for me. With climate change, moving to a more plant-based diet is critical. For the current "carnivore" culture generation this might be very difficult - lab-grown & plant-based "meats" might be the only thing that will ease the transition... if you can afford it. It does create a bit of a dilemma for me: I stopped eating meat on compassionate grounds so should I eat lab-grown meat (once it's affordable)?
Have you been following the UN's Oceanix initiative - building self-sustaining cities on the water including food production.
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Technically you should be able to expose plants to em radiation (induced) to fulfill the energy requirements of plants. I believe I saw a study from 10 years ago about how you can deny roots to a plant if you can directly induce the nutri-water into the plant mass. This of course implies that plants will be able to be grown in pods in space. Instead of generating heat energy when converting energy to visible light and plant sensitive spectrums, we could reduce that drastically by inducing frequencies that are not as entwined with thermal output.
Well done science, you made mushrooms! 🎉
incredible
Growing algae without light is already a pretty good breakthrough in itself. Underground structures,man made or natural caves, could sequester carbon dioxide and provide feedstock for other uses.
Is potassium acetate a good fertilizer?
This is huge for all farming not just Mars!!
Wow this is the best
Sounds like an excellent use for old depleted mines.
too dangerous
@@BJ-xm6bi the robots will harvest them
@@b.sharp. Eventually.
Probably best to start with spaces we can fully control. Just one less variable to worry about while getting a handle on the process.
@@StopChangingUsernamesRUclips that's literally what's happening
Too many toxic gasses
One step closer to recreating the setting of Stray but real-life
As someone who grow some plants, I really wonder how someone could think about growing plants without light. If you observe a plant growing you experience so many things that are influenced by the light. E.G. plants grow "towards" the light. Also plants need the sun to evaporate water to be able to draw more water (with the included minerals). So how should they suck up the nutrions from the solution without evaporating water?
I was also suprized that they made tests with yeast. I never heared that yeast has photosynthesis, is there any source for this information?
Can I use that on my house plants in the winter ?
This reminds me of the time when my dad was sleeping on the living room armchair and he was snoring really loud so I dropped one of my chicken nuggets into his mouth and he started choking. I didn't know what to do so I ran outside he still doesn't know what happened
pretty sure he spat it out and the dog ate the nugget
I thought this was going to be about growing mushrooms!
Am I the only one who thought this was going to be about mushrooms? Nature already figured out growing food in the dark.
Mushroom are saprophyte (absorb souble organic matter from dead substance). Plant produce organic matter which the human and fungi(mushroom) depand on to feed.. To get energy..
set up solar panels on surface and huge aeroponics underground. low power LED lights give enough even for fruits, esp. tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, etc. i know b/c i have grown my own indoors for years.
0:50 anyone know where I can get clips like this (high res video microscopy shots of plant cells) to just like.... stare at for hours?
A couple of unicellular green algae are known to have the option to feed on acetate instead of light. There's not much new in this study; organisms that depend on light, well, they do. Still kind of cool, for space colony purposes, to look into. 🛸
where are my references ! im researching the viability of vertical farms right now and I would love a link or 3 to get started. especially when hearing about pairing it up with technologies such as this!
Surely if you bypass the plants need for leaves, then it won't grow it's leaves very big?
Its not natural selection we are talking here, its artificial selection. We would simply select the ones with bigger leafs to eat
Maybe... at least the plants would be white. No light, no chlorophyll.
Thanks for the video! Anyone have early hypothesis’s on how these foods may affect or build up in the body?
some plants like hemp(cannabis) and banana "trees" are awesome at absorbing heavy metals and other stuff from the ground, those might get into our system.
but feeding plants a pure solution of nutrients and bypassing photosynthesis? it might stress the plant and we might even get some bitter compounds or something like that, but there's no immediately obvious way that it could harm us besides maybe being the worst (e.g.:) lettuce you'll ever have.
it's basically the same as growing it hydroponically, it works, it's safe, a more controles environment means less pests, usually, and you can simple not use herbicides and pesticides at all. it's what's actually organic.
now, truly "organic" crops relies on the soil microbes to feed them, both bacteria, fungi and other living organisms in the dirt all function in tandem as part of a hive mind, almost, some people swear it makes food better but there's no reason why it would besides maybe a constant dose of healthy amounts of stress(but you can also put fans to blow it and harden the stems and etc) making the plant sturdier and stronger, although it seems to produce less but that might be because hydroponics usually uses constant feeding so that the plant eats up every last bit it physically can.
I think the acetate solution will be the most problematic part of it because it might do something bad if some cleaning/household products get mixed with it.
it's like putting a respirator on a person and feeding it through tubes, technically we could just live like that, we just choose not to bc we like freedom and stuff.
but yeah, we won't get any hypothetical benefit from the xenohoermesis with the environment, sun and all that but hydroponics and indoor grows already limit that almost to completion, with the exception for aquaponics which introduces a fish-plant relationship which also involves some microorganisms and makes hydroponics more like organic(dirt) grows, without the pests problems that growing ""organically"" has and is the reason organic crops are sprayed with pesticides and herbicides, even when it's natural products, they're probably Neem oil or tobacco leaves , in any case there's a toxin that kills pests sprayed on it, and yes they're still able to sell you that as an organic product.
my final point is that artificial technologies aren't inherently bad, they're usually more efficient, almost always more profitable, and depending on the angle you choose to look at them, they're even safer than so-called "organic" products.
to answer your question more directly, if someone grows weed like this, in the dark but with a solution made from tap water from somewhere that's really full of heavy metals, they'll be picked up by the plant and mercury can vaporize, specially at high temperatures, so you might inhale mercury alongside the weed smoke
then I'd build up in your body.
it's really nothing to do with the process whatsoever, the plant species matters so much more than that, even heavily polluted waters could make safe food bc some plants simply don't absorb heavy metals and other toxins like that
@@Ewr42 I see. Thank you for the clarification. Would this also apply to other agents (ie.pesticides)? Would that be solved by simply not having a pesticide that was water soluble?
@@mehoi I think Roundup does accumulate, not sure tho
I believe that the bulk of the harm is done to the soil and underground water, and of course, to the workers being enslaved in farms.
I won't know how to adequately answer your question, but I think if it isn't water soluble it might accumulate on the soil instead of washing away(and polluting water, both underground and streams)
Talking about water, the damage that those big farming corporations do to water supply is nothing short of criminal, they literally waste tons of water so that next year they can waste just as much again.
I think people suffer more from low water levels in reservoirs than with pesticides, but ofc overall the danger that farming for economic growth makes to the climate will certainly be the thing that destroys us the most(to extinction, alongside most life on this planet)
Maybe just search "produce and brands with more chemical treatment" to know which to avoid, clean your vegetables (all plant matter you'll eat) and the beat option to be sure there's nothing, is to grow your own food. Which can be a lot of fun, and it can be done indoors too.
Monsanto's RoundUp-Ready crops are literally just resistant to being sprayed like crazy, so avoid that if you can(I think they're mostly to feed cattle tho, again, not sure)
Anyway, I'm just rambling away bc I have no real answer to your question specifically, but do look it up and if I made any mistakes please do correct me(i probably made a couple dozen mistakes in all I said, so I think the more appropriate would be to have used "if you notice" any mistakes, bc surely theyre there lol)
What nutrients are added to acetate?
Point of diminishing returns.
Why lettuce with the higher concentrations seemed to be stunted. Toxicity level had been reached.
This is going to require a lot of recipe tweaking, and different recipes for different plants.
Plus light doesn't influence only photosystems i and ii,. Ask sunflowers
Glowing Food Without Light...
Mushrooms?
This does beat photosynthesis using solar by ~4x, but I'm more excited about how it pairs with nuclear or wind. A nuclear powered LED grow house will be something like 10x less efficient than using this to feed them directly. By my numbers feeding a person could be done on something like 1kw. If the sun were to go out, and we diverted electricity production towards this, we could feed the world's population 2x. That is seriously impressive.
We have robots from Tesla, worms that eat plastic, and now plants that dont need light. Stray is REAAAAALLL
Bro science is so awesome
This is WILD.
Calling it now: all white lettuce mutant will be available at high end restaurants. It would look cool as hell.
One time when i was a kid i found a website that talked about growing potatoes in a basement, and having a sheet of aluminum foil outside and just connecting it with a wire would make the potatoes grow in total darkness...
This could cheapen vertical farming. If it gets refined enough it could become extremely helpful. Or could make harvesting plants for fuel more viable.
Or allow for hemp farming.
Wow! 💟
What type of acetate?
I still prefer using Mountain Dew (hehe)
Ohohoho exciting
Sci show needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees
maybe thunderf00t has a video on them..
spoiler alert: like everything else online, it's a scam. they buy land to preserve, from third party owners that claim to plant trees, but they're selling stuff like national parks which are already conserved, or buying carbon credits...
it's like that black square thing that turned off a couple pixels and claimed you were helping save the Amazon for it.
there's not really much we can do besides holding the super rich and their corporations accountable, also, the neonazifascist state of Bolsonaro has increased the Amazon destruction to 1000% levels in the last 4 years, they kill indigenous people, burn their land, take their trees, destroy the soil looking for gold, or by planting soy(to feed cattle) or letting cattle roam there, and they also burn down entire villages, raping 5yo girls, throwing 1yo boys into rivers...
all that because of greed, the profit motive, wanting to have more and taking it from the earth itself instead of taking from those who have thousands of lifetimes worth of stuff.
no one needs more than 10Million$ ever. at that point you should just get a prize for winning capitalism and retire completely from interfering on the "game".
but it's the world we live in and they're the ones in control, and they won't ever give up that control even if the world's burning.
which we will. along with suffocation, crops dying out, maybe a nuclear fallout, cities will be flooded, hurricanes, volcanoes and all that
and every billionaire will go to space to watch us burn from the VIP seats.
the world has ended already, unless capitalism falls immediately and we can repair the damage and redistribute wealth so that they stop doing harm for profit and rebuild a sustainable system
because our whole civilization today was designed to be unsustainable, it's based on infinite economic growth amd the resources are limited both physically and through hoarding to artificially increase the value of them.
we live in a huge scam, everything is done for profit and profit alone.
there's nothing you alone can do to help or contribute to it. we need nothing short of a complete revolution that changes absolutely every single thing about our current system.
this Theseus ship won't last till it's brand new through small changes, we need a completely different one because this one's already 90% sunk.
pro tip: if you just look around irl and refuse to acknowledge the truth, you can pretend to have a future to look after. it's what everyone else does
the world will burn down anyway, why die worrying?
anyway, lying to ourselves that stuff like ecosia works is also a coping mechanism, one that disappoints constantly, but it exists and its a fairly common one.
but we need nothing less than a complete ban on resource exploration and wealth appropriation from the super rich (10M$+) to firstly, pay up universal basic income so that we don't have to accept slavery under penalty of famine and death, and secondly, use the money to distribute resources fairly without allowing for the hoarding of it.
almost everything we do today is for the system itself, it helps us with nothing at all(but helps rich people get richer) like telemarketing or making those useless products you get ads for.
it's insulting, immoral, unethical, and unacceptable. but there's nothing we can really do, everyone knows every answer already, but they'll still refuse to act on them until half the population of the planet goes away(if you think eugenics and capitalism don't go hand in hand you should go back to studying the roots of feudalism)
and those who care about it are mostly in the lower half of the global population.
but that's it. the super rich are the only ones with real power to do anything, and they won't. it's already too late and they're still competing to see who can "grow" more before even they themselves have to do something about it(but then it'll be too late(bc it is already) and their only option will be fleeing to space)
sorry to hit you with all that, I hope the hope inside you never dies and I wish you live a happy life and a miracle saves the planet. good luck for us all
Don't worry, you unlock puffshrooms on the first level and they require 0 sun
Hi Stefan!
This is very good advice for 2023 sense the sun is becoming a red giant
So when can I buy this to use on my plants at home ?
It’s the plants from Stray! /o/
One solution for the city landscape - mushrooms.
ElectroBOOM down on the farm....
"And now we plug in the plant right next to this giant pile of NH2NO3..."
Wonder if this could be an efficient way to grow alge bio fuel from large scale renewable plants with limited grid connections
This whole "grow in the dark with acetate" concept is very interesting, but there is no need to reinvent the wheel so to speak-pressurized Mars colony cities can simply use nuclear fission to run powerful LEDs to grow hydroponic or aeroponic crops, a method already in use. Because the sun is dimmer in the orbit of Mars anyways LEDs would be best anyways.
As far as yeast and algae geneered to thrive with massive productivity, that appears more promising as these crops can provide biomass for many industrial processes as well as making high protein and healthy high fat foods.
One thing NOT motioned was mushroom farming on Mars- mushrooms can be used to make a tasty meat substitute, need no light, and can be fed organic refuse so one gets complete recycling. Mushrooms can also produce medicinal materials too, among others.
This makes me think of the nucular powered food machine that brought world peace to the pre fallout world of the Fallout games. Realistically though, we're not gonna live in the Fallout world, we're probably going to end up with human sized vegetables that will lean to walk and talk and levitate things with there mind. Nucular veggie tales!
They could also focus the light by using only red light which the plants use, rather than broad spectrum that they don’t.
How would it taste if it does not have sugar?
The acetate is used to create sugar in the plant.