2022 Honda ADV150 vs PCX150
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Today is Thursday, September 16, 2021. I'm picking up a new 2022 Honda ADV150 scooter for Kevin ( @Excelsior / @excelsiorddz , or @Bikes.and.Pizza on Instagram)! He asked me to ride it and give my thoughts on it versus the Honda PCX150. This video is long, so skip around with the chapter markers below.
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Kevin found a great deal on a nearly-new 2022 Honda ADV150 at a dealer in Galveston, TX, so he asked if I would pick it up for him. Hmm... let's think about that for a second... OF COURSE! 🤣
I rode it around the Katy area and put it through the paces on some of the roughest roads I could find to test the suspension. Then, I ran my 2015 Honda PCX150 through the same gauntlet for a back-to-back comparison. The ADV150 wins the suspension test hands down.... no competition at all!
The ADV150 handles very well and feels more sure-footed than the PCX150 due to the ADV's wider tires: chunky 110/80-14 front and 130/70-13 rear tires on the ADV150 vs. the skinny 90/90-14 and 100/90-14 tires on the PCX150. Straight-line stabillity and cornering feel is considerably more confidence-inspring on the ADV150.
The ADV150's braking feel is also drastically better than the PCX150.
I couldn't test the ADV150's braking performance to measure stopping distances, but the feel at the lever and brake pad bite is immediately noticeable. It's a night and day difference compared to the PCX150. The seating position is mostly the same between the two scoots, but the ADV150 is slightly more roomy due to the longer seat and the higher handlebar position. The ADV150 will suit taller riders more comfortably than the PCX150's ergo's would.
My only complaint regarding the ADV150 was the instrument cluster... that was a big letdown. The contrast is so-so in direct sunlight, and the display is too busy. There are too many lines and widgets for at-a-glance clarity, and the small fonts require a jeweler's monocular to read! Honda could have done a better job with that display. The Rebel 1100's superb display as a prime example.
Overall, I'll give the ADV150 two big thumbs UP! It's a very comfortable machine for blasting around town or on back roads. The seating position is comfortable, and the suspension soaks up big bumps without bruising your kidneys. I would add a top box and a larger windscreen to round out the features to make a great mini-tourer. Cheers! 😉👍
Time indexes:
0:00 Starting out with a bang... and a jostle!
2:40 Beginning the ADV150 walkaround and comparo to the PCX150
8:08 Smart Key system and under seat storage comparison
10:30 PCX150 startup, variator upgrade discussion
11:48 ADV150 startup, digital dash quick look
12:42 ADV150 parking brake is genius, PCX150 is a FAIL
14:19 ADV150 adjustable windscreen is a nice idea, but it's too short
16:18 Tire comparison, the ADV150's footprint is much better
17:31 Starting the ADV150 t̶o̶r̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶e̶s̶t̶ test ride
20:02 Digital dash visibility and ride quality observations
22:44 ADV150 full-throttle roll-on performance from 10-50 MPH is a bit slow
25:00 ADV150 top speed run yields 63 MPH (indicated)
27:40 ADV150 suspension test
32:54 Another wide-open run on the ADV150, stand-up riding is possible!
36:32 Beginning the PCX150 comparison ride
39:52 PCX150 acceleration run is much quicker than the ADV150, simlar top speed
43:57 PCX150 suspension & kidney torture test
47:28 Ride plans for this weekend, MIchelin tire discussion
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I'm happy to report that after upgrading the variator and changing the weights to 3g (stock 18g) that the pull is fantastic and it will cruise all day to 60 without much effort. And will actually will hit 72 (with my weight) given enough patience and room. When you outpace 99% of the cars from a stop light on a scooter, I think that its a good combination.
MPG - I'll get 70 -80 mpg when horsing on it the whole time and 80-100 mpg when just taking it easy.
Its at about 1700 miles now and loving every moment of it. Just waiting for a few USA sources for accessories and slowly add those.
Overall, I'm VERY happy with my choice and the sheer luck of finding a used one with 12 miles on it!
Many, many thanks to @Quasimotard for picking this up for me.
Update: 12g rollers, not 3g.
What is your weight? I’m probably heavier than you, but would be satisfied with 60-65 top speed and 50ish cruise.
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Awesome, thanks for info. I been looking into scooters so I can get around and work, as well as be more mobile. This scooter seems like a perfect fit. Just wish it looked more like the rugged
I thought this would get 130MPG if used appropriately.
These Honda , Suzuki and Yamaha scooters are unknown jewels , I bought a 2017 forza 300 in summer of 2020 had less than a 1000 miles for $2700 and it is perfect for me in my mid 60’s
Excellent comparison of the two little ones. I chose to go with the 125 cc Super Cub mainly out of nostalgia, as the 50cc was my very first one at 14 and I got way too much for my money. It was the third “scooter “ I had, whatever I asked it for it did, and more. I got my CT 90 next, and I just rode the bike into the ground. Then both of my kids rode them to college. Then I sold it many years years later, now I’m just past my 73rd birthday and a slew of bikes over the years . I gave my 1995 Trumpet 1200/4 Trophy to the best friend, and genius mechanic,
I Think have ever known. I think it’s a good idea for if it, he’s just got the stuff that that it would take to get a the first Trophy 1200/4 into a proper showplace! That was my favourite thing I ever had, and it has a great History to me and my pal Gregory Anderson!
Thanks again Buddy!
Poppa Jack Byers
Buena Park, Ca.
Quasi, these videos are awesome! I really appreciate you sharing this content on comparing ADV150 & PCX150. I purchased a PCX 150 about 2 months ago, and has been riding it every chance I get. Thanks!
Just bought the adv 150 and I love how it absorbs bumps better due to its longer suspension travel compared to my Yamaha Aerox 155. Did plenty of upgrades to my Aerox especially on front and rear suspension which improved the suspension a lot better compared to stock but the suspension on the adv 150 both front and rear are far better. Adv 150 suits my riding style as I go offroad sometimes. Great comparison video. Kudos 👏🏻
Great comparison. I wish you had a ADV150 for some roadtrips to hear some touring reviews. Thoroughly enjoy your content Quasi keep up the good work. Cheers from South Australia 🍻
VERY thorough comparison, well done! I am going tomorrow to buy my wife a ADV 150. She doesn't want to pull in a clutch and shift so this is what I came up with for her. Hopefully this fits the bill. I own 22 motorcycles (yes, I know that's crazy, but I don't have kids so bikes are my happy place) I will come back and let you know her and my thoughts. Blessings to all...
Congrats on the upcoming ADV150! It sounds like you and I share the same affliction... collecting bikes! I was up to 25 bikes for a short time, but now I'm back down to 18. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
what you guys think of it so far? I am hoping to decide on one in next 2 weeks.
@@inseasonandoutofseason There is the new ADV160 being released. Y'all might want to check that out instead!
Time for that promised update !
I apologize, it's definitely the immature kid in me, but it is a weird irony, with your last name being what it is, not to have kids, seriously not trying be a azz hle just thought that was a weird coincidence, good luck with the bike though
Having both, the most obviously differences for me are the riding position and suspension. The adv feels taller and more upright. It also does much better on the washboard ripples on the road. The suspension is still scooter harsh, but much better than the pcx.
Agreed! The ADV150's suspension is the biggest improvement by far. The wider tires and higher handlebar position make it feel much more planted on the road. The larger front brake rotor also improves the brake feel compared to my older PCX150.
Kevin replied somewhere in the comments earlier, and he mentioned that he upgraded the variator and rollers. Now his ADV150 will run 72 MPH top speed and it gets 80-100 MPG under normal riding conditions. I'm still editing the weekend ride video up to Austin, so stay tuned for that episode! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I’m thinking of getting the adv 150 but do you have to take most of the body panels off to check the valves like on my pcx 150?
@@paulstanley3265 Unfortunately, yes... the center plastics and trunk tray must be removed to access the top of the engine for the valve check. I'll be doing the maintenance on my PCX150 sometime soon, so I'll be sure to share that whole process from beginning to end. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard ... and, did the valves need adjusting?
Looking for my first Scoot and was really interested in the XMAX, but i test rode the ADV150 in Hot Springs AR and really liked it. The wife was digging the PCX on the showroom floor. So i was glad to see your comparison video. Great stuff. I subbed and dinged. Thanks!
I love your "vocal bump monitor". Hilarious! Nice review - thanks!
you were having WAY too much fun on that bumpy road 🤣🤣
thanks for the look. I'm a big guy so the better suspension and brake makes me want the ADV
Looking at these two, I’m a beginner and just looking around and trying to do research, definitely just wanting one to have fun and using it for short commutes, nothing expensive or crazy, think the adv 150 fits the bill but definitely going to continue to search around to keep my options open
AVD150 will be my next bike for sure.. love the efficiency, comfort and looks.
Thanks for the great vid! I'm planning to buy an ADV150 this week. It sure looks like fun to ride.
Thanks for the feedback, and congrats on your upcoming ADV150! They are great fun to ride, and the fuel economy is a huge win with today's fuel prices. 😉👍 --QM
OK so that intro was hilarious! LMAO, been a while since I laughed out loud. Thanks! Owned a scooter back in early 80"s Yamaha Riva 185, I think? Miss the little scoot and considering this one for a city bike. Must be a good pal, not sure he'd get it if it was in my garage. LOL
I feel like this would be awesome for cruising on most streets around town, usually about 45mph... I live down the way in San Antonio, and am considering one of these for trips to HEB and just cruising around town, maybe to work occasionally, you know just for the daily stuff... seems like it would be fun.. Hopefully they bring the new ADV 350 to the US in the next year or two... I'd definitely be sold!!!
You also have a great scooter shop on Austin Highway if you feel like comparing Honda to Taiwan brands and other stuff like Piaggio/Vespa and Royal Enfield. I miss that place, as all we have for scooters in my current town is a Honda dealer, so you're paying pretty much top dollar, and they're significantly backordered. That said, you can't go wrong with either of these Hondas or really any small-medium Honda. These two especially are just throw a leg over and go.
Great real world video comparisons. I have a 2011 Ruckus and a very rare 2010 Elite 110 both stock. The Elite does 55 MPH so perfect for urban streets. Debating on adding the ADV150 to the stable but dealers in my state are literally getting one at a time, selling at a mark up and they are sold as soon as they come in. Wish Honda offered at least two color choices instead of one. A charcoal metallic grey would be nice along with the the Rose Red for 22. The ADV350 sold in other markets would be about $6-$7k here so that’s probably why Honda isn’t bringing it here yet. That’s serious coin for a scooter. You can also get a CBR300R non ABS for about $4,700 or same price as the ADV150 and it will do 90MPH but it’s a 6 speed motorcycle. Decisions, decisions
Looks fun as hell! Nice video Quasi!
Thank you for your video! I'm looking to buy a scooter, and your video was vey helpful!
I've tried a test ride on the ADV150 last week actually and those OEM tyres are really good for as far as OEM tyres go. This bike is a really good city runabout,and maybe occasionally go for an offroad detour. The suspension and tyres will handle about the same offroad as an OEM CT125 will i think,but just be careful of that ground clearance
Also,i just tried the Honda Forza 750 yesterday(had an off day and went to my usual dealership near where i live and hung around to look at the bikes then the sales guy asked if i wanted to try "the most powerful scooter in store"). That scooter is nuts...
Great comparison video. Thank you
Thank you for sharing, the video image and sound are super nice. I will pick the PCX for a relaxing scooter. Right now, I ride my Piaggio MP3 250, good but heavy.
Haha, sounds like you're riding your scooter down a set of stairs in the beginning! ✌️😅
I wish your comparison was between an equivalent year PCX. I purchased a 2020 in that beautiful red metal flake and couldn't be happier! Though I still have my very capable 2013 Pearl White Burgman 650 that I purchased used with 1926 miles as well as my 2009 KLR650 and 2014 Victory Cross Country Tour with a Hannigan sidecar, I LOVE my Honda for all it's capabilities...still, I've considered the ADV which if they bring the 350 to our shores will be an instant purchase. I just think older PCX 150s are not as stunning as the newer models with LED integrated lighting. Love your channel! Ever consider repping the single wheel trailer company? I'd buy one from you in a flash!
The adv 150 is a surprisingly comfortable ride. Those suspensions are really good at handling potholes.
Probably more practical than the Honda Trail, but still I think it's off-road capability is probably grass and dirt roads.
For guys like you who like the long haul I think it would be great, especially with your trailer. 🤠
I Never Thought I would ever buy a Scooter, But I really want the ADV. I may wait until the 160 comes out Here in Philippines. I like Bigger Cruisers but here in Philippines, the roads are rough and its really unsafe to go more than 50 MPH. It looks like the ADV is the Perfect Bike for S E Asia. Thanks for the Review
My brother is going to join us on scooter cannonball 2023. He bought the 2022 ADV, I steered him away from the pcx and super cub. He’s 6’1”. I’m 5’8 and was very uncomfortable sitting on the pcx in the show room. Seems like you can push back and stretch out more one the adv. since I’m Yamaha biased I tried to sway him to SMax. Honda all the way for him. Thanks for the side by side comparison.
I'm also Yamaha biased and looking to get the nmax
Thanks fer the carrier info. You have my subscription!
Having buying with only 12 miles you saved all the destination fees and dealerships set up fee also. Great deal. I love mine.👍
The ADV is the move! Fingers crossed I can’t turn these lemons I’ve been give into some lemonade 🤞😬
I own a 2022 ADV150 and feel the wind screen could be about twice as big for my liking. Raised or lowered windscreen to me shows no improvement in wind reduction.
Thanks for the video!
Great comparison video. Love that ADV. I wonder how the new PCX 160 ABS is in comparison to the ADV.
This! I've yet to find a good comparison review. And those are the two scooters I am torn between.
What's so funny is back in 1982 my Honda full Wheeler came with the same setup for lock in the brakes just right off the brakeclever I think that's the best they ever came up with
I knew I had seen that somewhere before , i was thinking maybe during my snowmobiling days,.. but now ya got me thinking it was on my brothers quad from many years back
It's nice to see this scooter to have a tour across America just like other Honda scooter
Great review Texas ' I live in Austin and just got the wife ta 21' PCX150 she loves it - not sure how she's gonna keep up with ma' Goldwing thou
I notice immediately your voice variation riding over even ripples compared to listening to you narrating while winding out on the Super Cub. I can feel the ADV stiffness just listening ;-)
just got my 22 pcx with the 157 cc hit 75 mph yesterday with no issues
Does anyone here have any idea where I can find front cover plastic part and signal light for a Sym Evo 200 scooter??? It's hard to find part for it, isn't it. Do I have to find parts from the manufacture in Taiwan sort of??? Any idea anyone??? I have tried to search on Google but can't find any place that have the parts that I want to buy.
Great VIDEO! after watching I went with ADV, I was leaning PCX until I watched your video.
Glad it was helpful! I will probably replace my PCX150 with the ADV160 when it finally comes to the USA. The improved suspension and more upright ergonomics of the ADV are very nice. The ADV feels more planted on the road than the PCX does at higher speeds... probably due to the wider tires and wide handlebars. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Hey quasimotard!! I just got a 2022 adv 150 3 months ago (was the only one at my dealer) I love this thing…I had a 2011 pcx 125 and it only did 61mph top speed but this adv did 67-68 stock not broken in and me at 225lbs, that’s pretty good but now I have an S23 billet variator with 12gram weights, a dna performance air filter, ngk iridium plug and I run 93 octane and just on the kickstand she went from 71-72 mph stock to now 82 mph 😳 and she pulls every car from a stoplight😈👍🏻
Congrats on your new ADV150! 😉👍 -QM
Watch to total video but didn’t hear anything on the transmission.. Maybe I missed it, there was some child noise.. Does it have a Honda magic or a CVT compared to the PCX? I believe the Suzuki Berman has a CVT and they offer a 400cc engine.
I can see how your friend caught the bug after taking your pcx 150 for a ride,.. I was in Thailand in 2017 and rented a 2016 pcx 150 for two months up in Chiang Mai, I too caught the bug and bought one when I got back to the states ( Boston ) . I’m back in Thailand now ( Phuket) and have rented a 2019 pcx 150 HYBRID ,… I’ve never seen one back in America but it’s pretty neat , it has a small toggle switch in the front of the left handgrip housing that allows you too place it in three modes that will appear on your odometer screen ( “D” for drive , “S” for special , and the last mode brings up a blank space on the odometer screen and it’s basically drive but the engine won’t shut down when your stopped at a red light ( in Thailand the red lights are several minutes long and the pcx150’s have the option of continuing to run, or shutting down and they restart with a twist of the throttle ( at 100 mpg is this really necessary) . So “ D “ and “blank” are self explanatory but the “S” mode is where the “hybrid” applies, there is a 48 volt electric motor and Lithium-ion battery under the seat that gives it a boost when you get on it,.. and comparing it to my pcx150 at home ,.. you can definitely see a difference . There’s also a pretty cool power thrust bar on the odometer screen that spools up as your nailing it. ….. thanks for the video on the adv,…. You keep your bikes super clean !
Yeah, these scooters are definitely addictive to ride! They are easy to get along with, and the twist-and-go lifestyle lets you focus more on the ride than the machine. It's unfortunate that we don't get a lot of the small-displacement motorcycles and scooters that other European and Asian markets have. If we did, then my fleet would probably be 3x bigger! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
we want to ride around country side no highways is bike comfortable with two riders? looking to purchase ADV. anyone know?
19:43 for Seat Height comparison. He states the ADV150 feels 1-1.5 inches taller since he is on both tip toes with 29.5-30in inseam. The main reason I'm looking at these is because it's for a shorter rider and all scooters with bigger engine are too tall. I ride a Yamaha Majesty 400
I think a small set of marine speakers and a water proof head unit if they make one would be a great edition have some music to listen to.
Hey, thanks for the review. When you're comparing the 2022 ADV to the PCX, are you referring to the 2015 PCX that you have there? I've watched quite a few reviews comparing newer PCX to newer ADVs and in general they suggest that the new PCX has a softer more compliant suspension than the ADV.
have you found a review of the new pcx in english?
That locking brake assembly on the ADV is virtually the same as the one on my 87 TRX 125. It's crazy they had to engineer some silly parking brake thing on the PCX when a piece of metal with a notch would suffice.
Exactly! I recognized that mechanism from Honda's other 4-wheelers. I'm not sure why they tried to reinvent the wheel with the PCX's parking brake system. I'm taking a short break from my motorcycle projects for a few weeks, but that ADV150 lever and perch will be installed on the PCX's and the NAVI very soon! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I bought Two PCX 150’s.I drove them to work one at a time They did a fantastic job of making each trip to & from my commute The commute was about 49 miles to & from destination I had over the road truckers try race me,most of time I made them angry because I could speed up much faster
Great review I'm in Thailand about to pull the trigger on a new scooter. The Yamaha N-Max and Aerox are OUT. I'm almost certain I'll get one of the following Honda's; PCX160, ADV160, or possibly even the Forza350. However, right now I'm leaning towards the PCX160.
I'm in the market for a scooter in Thailand as well. This figuring out what's best for me. Why's the N-Max out? I'm torn between N-Max and the ADV
@@Jorge-jk5xr I had to try a few scooters out over these last months. I'm currently riding a Yamaha Qbix 125, it's a great bike with big cargo space under the seat. Maybe the N-Max is okay but the ADV-160 is extremely popular especially since it has better suspension. I don't ride on the highway very often and when I do it's only for a few KM's. So for me I'm riding small streets and shortcuts through alleyways the Qbix 125 is perfect for this reason. Small 125 CC scooters are better than big scooters as their easy to park, maneuver through small spaces, etc. Of course if you're bigger than 200lb. I would recommend a 150/160CC. My next door neighbor has a Forza 350 but he's really a big guy around 230lb. Finally, after months of riding I realize how dangerous riding in Thailand truly is..I've decided to never go over 40KM per hour ever again..much better chance for survival. GL!
revzilla had fun with this adv150 out on dirt trails. got airborn with it too.
Hey Quasi quick question. When you installed the Dr. Pulley Variator did change anything else like the belt or clutch?
When I upgraded to the Dr.Pulley variator in the 2015 PCX150, I also installed a fresh CVT belt while I was in there. That PCX is still running the OEM clutch and spring in the back. The scoot only had ~2500 miles on it, so the belt was still fresh; however, I figured that a new belt would be prudent considering that we would be doing ~2K miles at highway speeds over the following few days. 😉👍 --QM
Thanks for doing this. Looking at a 2021 PCX vs a 2022ADV going to dealer later to have a look.
Keep in mind that this review was with a 2015 PCX150 with the older engine. The new PCX is a 160cc 4-valve engine with more power, and it also has updated suspension compared to my older 2015 PCX. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks, understood. Dealer has a 2021 PCX and a 2022 ADV
Awsome news. Its 2023.. Honda gave us a ( killer upgrade with 10 more cc's now it's it a 160cc .. the wind shield is bigger & adjustable .. the storage is bigger now.. the digital instrument cluster has nice upgrades and control buttons..! As if that wasn't enough ?.. feeling other stuff too;
I’ve got a cheap 150cc gy6 Chinese scooter that does tops 50mph. Are these Honda faster because of the better engine? I’m 5’10” and 240lbs, do I need more then 150cc to get me to 70mph?
You might have already seen this but the channel Some Guy Rides, he has a Trail 125 that he runs the TAT. It's pretty cool.
sounds pretty good beautiful motorcycle bikesb sir great review
Thanks for the feedback! 😉👍 --QM
hi. could you talk about upgrading the shocks,do you feel like the oem shocks from Honda ,need to be upgraded from factory?
Howdy! I didn't ride the ADV150 long enough to form any opinions on the OEM suspension. I'm sure that it will soften-up after a few miles and not be quite as firm. Otherwise, I think the spring rates and damping suits my riding weight very well (170 pounds, 77 kg). Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
New subscriber I love your video content as I have pcx 150 2019 white model.i suggest you try mossa cvt kit
Thanks for the sub and the feedback! I might upgrade the variator in my 2015 PCX150 before the Scooter Cannonball Run next year... we'll see! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard you're most welcome! Make sure to do a video if you upgrade to mossa cvt kit👍👍👍
You have a taller wind screen on the pix I don’t guess you could use that same screen on the ADV
Greetings from Turkey, what are the sales prices of these engines in your country? because it is too expensive for us.
Where can I get that windshield for my pcx ?
Nice video enjoyed it. On the adv 150 will you have to remove all those plastic panels like I do on my pcx 150 to check the valves. I’m getting tired of spending 40 minutes to take panels off to do a 10 minute job and then 40 minutes to put it back together. Was looking at the adv or super cub
Howdy, Paul! Thanks for watching and leaving feedback! Yes, the maintenance on the ADV150 will be equally painful (if not moreso) than it is on the PCX150. I wish that Honda could have designed a maintenance panel in the trunk tray or center body panels to make that job easier. Sometimes I wonder if it's not easier to drop the entire powertrain than to strip all of the Tupperware from these bikes! 🤣
The Super Cub's valve maintenance is easier, but clearance is still limited. You can watch that process here if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/GSxi4kdy2SY/видео.html . Revoving the Cub's leg shield is a giant PITA as well ( ruclips.net/video/k1ri2ZEX9JI/видео.html ), but you won't need to go that far for routine maintenance. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Whats the best variator to put on a 2011 pcx 125 ??
I wonder how they would do going up Montegal?
Update on my Update. I had a deposit down on a PCX at a dealer in Ohio. Due in Sometime in July?? A few weeks ago a 2022 ADV150 showed up at a dealer 20 miles away. Got my deposit back on the PCX (still hasnt showed up) and bought the ADV. Just rolled over 300 miles. 104MPG so far. Best toy I have bought in my life time.
Do you know where I can find some smile removal cream?
I live near Columbus , any ideas on a go to dealership in this area ?
Owner of a 2022 pcx, but I've ridden the ADV. It is slower, and the ride height felt weird. Glad I went with the pcx instead
the doggo just sleeping in the background in the beginning 😪
Riding 2 wheels moto is fun isn't it??? My brother bought a Sym Evo200 almost like new. He went on a vacation for a week and told me if I want to practice just go ahead. I did it the first few days was okay, getting used to it, but the last days of that week before he comes home from his trip I crash the scooter into a wooden fence and broke half of side of the front shield plastic part and the right signal light. Not so good, but I really had some fun. Will be looking to buy one about 150cc to ride for fun on the property and on the street some time.
I'm stuck between the ADV and the Super Cub for Door Dashing around town on 25-45mph roads. Any opinions on that?
Either machine would be a superb commuter or delivery steed, but it really depends on whether you want to shift or just twist-and-go. The ADV150 is probably more practical overall than the Super Cub because it has built-in storage under the seat, it has a much larger fuel tank (2.1 gal on the ADV vs 1.0 gal for the SC), and it's much faster to accelerate away from city traffic. The SC is more efficient overall if you don't mind shifting gears... no clutch needed. Your best bet is to test ride both of them and see which fits your needs better. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I was told I'll need this since I'm 6ft tall. Kind of expensive at $3000 over there in Phillipines but no choice.
I almost bought a ADV, then i tested the new PCX 160 2021. Hands down the newer 4 valve PCX. so i bought the pcx for 2021 with the 4valve.. only problem is its really shady buying parts and stuff for it here in the us. some dealers here dont even know the difference in the 4 valve. most of the stuff i have ordered has to come from the Philippines or Vietnam. But the up side is it will really run around 85mph and has plenty of power. really not a lot of mods needed, the rear shocks suck! and the seat is hard as a rock.
I only got my pcx 160 up to 68 mph hoe you get it to 85?? Mines totally stock
How do either of these compare to the Piaggio Liberty 150? I've owned an ADV150 and I was underwhelmed by it's top speed...this was before I knew anything about their CVT's so I didn't know things could be done to improve them. I'm looking to add a scooter soon and the PCX, ADV and Liberty are my top choices...just missed a 2019 Liberty with 62 miles for $1900, still kicking myself over that...but there seems to be a dealer not that far from me with several leftover 2022 PCX's where I might be able to get a deal
I'm hoping to purchase a 2022 ADV 150 in the next month or two. I'm interested in the cycle carrier you have mounted on the hitch of your truck in the first segment. Would you share the make/model, weight rating, etc. on it please, and would you recommend buying? I'm trying to decide on one. A lot of mixed reviews on various models making it difficult to decide. Any problems or helpful hints in loading? Thanks in advance. Liked and subscribed.
Howdy, Tom! I purchased that Haul-Master carrier from Harbor Freight several years ago on sale for $99.99. They don't seem to carry that all-steel model anymore, but they've replaced it with an aluminum version: www.harborfreight.com/400-lb-receiver-mount-aluminum-motorcycle-carrier-62837.html
You can get the exact steel version from Amazon here: amzn.to/3IlPJI9 . It's rated to carry 500 pounds, but I wouldn't recommend anything over 400 pounds just for safety. Loading and unloading bikes onto the carrier is very easy. The benefit of this steel model is that it uses a torqued mount on the reciver hitch to prevent it from tipping/wiggling around in the hitch carrier. Cheers! 😉👍
@@QuasiMotard Thanks for the information. Much appreciated! Safe ride ...
I just wish you could get a tall national windshield for it. The national Pcx windshield is amazing!
I love the adv 150 but man I wish we'd atleast get the bigger cc as an option like the adv350 or something
Good news is, it's just lunched, the 350 version.
@@madridistasejati5358 It's about $14,000 though. Quite a jump from the 150
I've seen a few articles listing that price, but I think they are mistaken. The X-ADV 750 costs around $14K USD (if we could get it here), and the ADV350 lists at £5,599 in the UK ($7500 USD) . The new ADV350 will likely cost around $7K if/when it's announced for the USA market... or so we hope! 😉👍 --QM
Just sold my 250!
The ADV seems to be a worthwhile small cc bike to own.
Over here in the UK we don't have either the ADV nor the CT Trail 125 which is the bike I would consider trading my Monkey for.
I'm curious as to the monument by the side of the road seen at 50 minutes.
Great video as always.
Thanks for the feedback! That monument is the armed forces memorial... I visited it during my Super Cub break-in ride here: ruclips.net/video/wrjrLvKWLKs/видео.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you for the Information.
Where can I buy or rent the hitch attachment to travel with it? Shown at 2:33.
Hello, Stephanie! I purchased that Haul-Master carrier from Harbor Freight several years ago on sale for $99.99. They don't seem to carry that all-steel model anymore, but they've replaced it with an aluminum version: www.harborfreight.com/400-lb-receiver-mount-aluminum-motorcycle-carrier-62837.html
You can get the exact steel version from Amazon here: amzn.to/3IlPJI9 . It's rated to carry 500 pounds, but I wouldn't recommend anything over 400 pounds just for safety. Loading and unloading bikes onto the carrier is very easy. The benefit of this steel model is that it uses a torqued mount on the reciver hitch to prevent it from tipping/wiggling around in the hitch carrier. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I LOVE DCT AND CVT SYSTEMS. NOW I CAN USE A BIKE IN THE CITY . NO JOY CHANGING GEARS IN MANHATTAN. I THINK YOU SOLD ME ON THE ADV.
They made the compression ratio way higher on the newer PCX that's da big difference.
Hi -- I'm interested in the windshield on the 150PCX (I have a 2019 and don't like the wind at all). Can you provide any recommendation/source, and did you modify it any? Thanks in advance.
The screen that I have on my 2015 PCX150 is the National Cycle VStream Sport Touring (medium height): www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/national-cycle-vstream-sport-touring-windscreen-honda-pcx150-2014-2018?sku_id=1161414 . The equivalent screen for your 2019 PCX should be the "Tall Touring Replacement Screen": www.nationalcycle.com/n50005.html .
I'm 5'7" (170 cm), and I like the height of this screen, but I think that the Tall Touring screen would work better to reduce helmet turbulence. The one for the 2019 PCX should be the "Extra Tall Touring Replacement Screen": www.nationalcycle.com/n50006.html . Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks for the info ... . . .
Against the wind love that song
HELP!!!!!!!! PLEASE!! My ADV recently got hit from behind while parked, the ignition switch turns to the on position but won't start. Kick stand up brake engaged, all fuses checked and are good! any suggestions? desperate in Florida!! When the bike was hit I was able to start it but the next day it wouldn't relay switch maybe?
🤔 Hmmm... I would inspect the following items in order of likelihood:
- start/stop switch on the handlebar (set to the ON/RUN position)
- side stand switch (stand needs to be in the up/closed position)
- battery voltage above 12.8V
- try your second keyless remote fob
- tip-over sensor
Try toggling the start/stop switch off and in a few times, and also flip the kickstand down and up to see if that clears the switches. You can check the side stand switch with a standard multimeter or continuity tester.
The start/stop switch is more tricky to test because you need to disassemble the switch pod and reach into the fairing cover to disconnect the harness. The tip-over sensor is also difficult to test because it's buried under the front plastics. You might need to take it to a service center for diagnosis if the quick troubleshooting doesn't solve the issue.
Good luck with it, and let us know how it turns out! 😉👍 --QM
Cutout on the windscreen because the 350 model have Levers brush covers and they would hit the screen without the cutouts.
Interesting. So do we know if the ADV150 and ADV350 share the same windscreen, or is it just the same aesthetics and design philosophy? 👍 --QM
I am 6ft. tall @ 180 lbs. Reducing the recommended tire pressures by 5lbs on my 22PCX greatly improved the handling and ride.
Do you think that ADV150 parking lever will work to replace the stubby rear/parking brake lever on the Navi?
I think that it will fit, but I haven't verified it yet. The only concern that I have is regarding the cable ferrule on the end of the parking brake cable... it might be a non-standard size that won't fit into the hole in the ADV150's brake lever. Otherwise, it should be a direct swap.
The real kicker is that the entire ADV150 assembly is over $150 USD after you add up the pieces (e.g., perch/mount, lever, locking lever, etc). Honda is REALLY proud of their prices on those parts. 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotardSo it turns out that the Navi in Mexico and Latin America has a full size lever, that also has the parking latch. I'm trying to get a part number for it, also not sure if US parking latch will work with it or if that would need to be replaced with lever as well.
What brand are your jacket and gloves, are they comfortable in the summer?
Howdy, Clive! I wear mostly textile-mesh riding gear throughout the year here in Houston, TX. Here is the short list for reference:
Jacket: Fly Racing Flux Air Mesh amzn.to/3uNfz3t
Gloves: Olympia 734 Digital Protector mesh gloves amzn.to/3HtjY0y
Boots: TCX Explorer EVO GoreTex amzn.to/3O1RWuE
Socks: Darn Tough Micro Crew Ultra-light amzn.to/3P7l2tZ
The jacket and gloves flow a lot of air while moving, but they can get stuffy while stopped in traffic. The unseen benefit of wearing a jacket, even during blazing-hot Houston summers, is that the jacket prevents sunburn and windburn that dries out the skin. A little bit of added sweat also provides a cooling effect while moving, so it's a worthwhile trade-off.
The Fly Racing jacket has been one of my best gear purchases in decades! That was a $99 close-out special at CycleGear nearly 8 years ago, and it's still kicking! The Olympia gloves usually last me 2-3 years of constant use (abuse), and they're hand washed every few weeks during the hot months to prevent the inevitable "stinky shoe" syndrome. All of my helmets are modular (flip-up), so that helps me to ventilate while stopped in traffic... just flip-up to breathe and cool off while stationary.
The Darn Tough Merino wool socks help to keep my feet dry and minimize odor. They are guaranteed for life, and I've exercised that warranty a few times. They will typically wear out at the heel or toe after a year or two. I just email them with the problem and they send me a fresh pair of socks! I need to pay for shipping back to Vermont, but that's a minimal expense: darntough.com/pages/our-unconditional-lifetime-guarantee
Good luck shopping, and I hope you find a good fit! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
I'd definitely vinyl wrap the inside floorboards area!
Agreed! Maybe that clear vinyl "bra" for sports cars would be a good protector in the center tunnel. Or maybe even skateboard deck (grip) tape for some texture to help hold a tunnel bag in place. 😉👍 --QM
Great video! Sure wish they hadn't made the seat so high on the ADV150. What shocks would you recommend for the PCX for a 150 lb rider. They can't make the seat any higher because I have a 27 inch inseam and can barely touch the ground with the stock shocks. Your input would be appreciated.
Thanks for the feedback, Dana! You can replace the PCX's rear shocks with anything that fits your budget. Most of the aftermarket shocks won't raise or lower your seat height, so you might consider "shaving" the seat down to reduce your seat-to-ground height.
There are quite a few options in the aftermarket, but I would suggest purchasing an adjustable shock... one with spring preload and damping adjustments... if your budget allows it. You're probably looking at $175-350 for a decent set of adjustable shocks.
Here are a few places to shop:
Webike (Japan): japan.webike.net/HONDA/PCX160/14419/mtop/
Steady Garage (USA): www.steadygarage.com/store/two-wheels/scooter-parts/honda-pcx
Bikerz Bits (Thailand): bikerzbits.com/honda/pcx/
Good luck shopping, and I hope you find a good fit on your PCX! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you, much appreciated!
you should try Honda beat ISS 2022 only 110cc scooter, very popular in Indonesia. The design looks like honda vario junior.
Unfortunately, we don't have many of those great small-displacement scooters and motorcycles here in the USA. I wish that we could have the Zoomer-X here instead of the Navi, but I'm happy for any new alternatives that we receive! Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
Nice video. which one is better for long trip bro.
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Hi Quasi. I am new to H town area. I live in Montgomery County. I am looking for a recommendation on Scooter maintenance on my 2013 Honda Silver wing 600cc. Know any trustworthy shops or dealerships? Thanks in advance.
Howdy, Scott! Congrats on the SWing... that's a great scoot! I have a 2004 SWing in the stable that needs to get back on the road soon.
I do most of my own service, so I haven't sought out a good scooter shop in a while. My local dealer, Wild West Motoplex in Katy, does a good job. Shop labor rates have gone through the roof lately ($120/hr and up), so I typically do everything myself. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
That adv look's red hot!!!
That's a gorgeous scooter
Wow are adv available in usa what about xadv 750 and honda forza and yamaha xmax are they available in usa yet?
Unfortunately, no... we don't have the XADV750, ADV350, Forza 150/350, or Yamaha NMAX scooters here in the USA. We would love to get those here, but the USA has poor sales and a low market share for small motorcycles and scooters. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
The PCX 160 is now in the US I think 🤔
I have a 2022 honda rebel 1100 Dct and I have the honda shadow phantom 750 enjoy both bikes I am looking at the ADV 150 and the PCX 150 for my wife she is a short lady and I'm not sure which one to get. Any help would be appreciated. We live in Mississippi and usually have great weather for riding.
Howdy, Dean, and congrats on your Honda cruisers! The short answer is this: the decision between the newer PCX150/160 and the ADV150 really boils down to the ergonomics and the rider's preference. I'd recommend finding a local dealer (or private seller) that has one of each scoot so she can sit on them and ride around the parking lot a few times to determine which feels more comfortable and sure-footed. The weight and seat height are roughly the same for both scoots, offering similar performance. However, they *FEEL* very different.
The long answer is below:
*Ergonomics*:
In my opinion, the ADV150's ergonomics are better than the PCX for most riders of average height (e.g., 5'4" or taller). The ADV's seating position is more on TOP of the bike than down IN it, and the wide/flat handlebars give you a very neutral position with lots of bar control. The riding position feels more like a standard motorcycle or a dirt bike than a scooter.
The PCX150's seating position feels like you're down IN the bike instead of on top of it, so that might be more comfortable for smaller/shorter riders. The PCX's narrower bars have a more traditional "cruiser" feel, and the rider triangle is a bit more compact due to the lower seat-to-floorboard gap. Those seating differences can make the PCX feel smaller and more manageable. (N.B.: my wife is 5'3", 115 lbs, and she can handle the PCX150 just fine... not quite flat-footed, but comfortable).
Weight and fuel capacity are nearly identical between the two scoots (ADV weighs 294 lbs vs 286 for the PCX). The most significant difference is in the seat and handlebar position. Road manners are a slightly different story...
*Road Manners & Brakes*:
The ADV's road manners are better due to its larger tires, better suspension & brakes, and wide/flat handlebars. It feels more planted at moderate to high speeds and doesn't feel squirmy under normal road conditions. The ADV's beefier suspension and wider tires can tackle light off-road riding (e.g., gravel and forestry trails) better than the PCX, if that's on your agenda.
The PCX's skinnier tires can make it feel less planted on the road when speeds climb above 50 MPH or when riding in heavy crosswinds. It can feel sketchy and unnerving for less experienced riders. However, the PCX feels more "flickable" and changes direction quicker than the ADV, making it feel more nimble around town and at lower speeds.
The ADV has a slightly larger front brake rotor than the PCX (240mm vs. 220mm), and it stops with much more authority... at least compared to my 2015 PCX. ABS is also standard equipment on the ADV. The brakes on the older PCX's (pre-2019) aren't as strong as the ADV, and you can only get ABS on the 2019+ models as an option. The PCX's brakes are adequate, but I upgraded to EBC HH front pads to give more bite and better braking performance.
Another minor but important note about handling: the PCX tends to get pushed around in crosswinds slightly worse than the ADV. I think it's due to the PCX's narrower tires and more "flatter" bodywork that gives it more surface area to push against, and there is less tire contact patch to resist the wiggle.
*Economy & Reliability*:
The PCX's bodywork is more streamlined and aerodynamic than the ADV, so it gets much better fuel economy than the ADV (although the newer 4-valve PCX160's are reportedly a bit thirsty). I easily average 100-120 MPG on my 2015 PCX150 around town AND on the highway running 55-60 MPH. Most ADV owners report only 75-80 MPG average for their scoots.
Maintenance intervals are identical for the ADV and PCX because they share the same engine and drivetrain. The newer 4V engines are reportedly more maintenance prone than the older 2V engines. Checking the valve clearances on both scoots is a pain in the butt. That requires removing a LOT of plastics to get in there every 2500 miles, so most owners stretch that out to 5-8K miles. My PCX's were in spec at every interval so far (600 and 3000 miles), so I'm not too worried about letting them slide.
If you're interested in seeing a longer road trip with the ADV150 and the PCX150, then you might want to watch this video: ruclips.net/video/uxlqSbNVRHg/видео.html . We took these scoots on another road trip a few months later with lots of abuse on gravel roads: ruclips.net/video/0AC_giCChTM/видео.html . Those videos might give you a better idea of how they perform on twisty highways and back roads. Cheers, and good luck shopping! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thank you for all the information on the two bike its greatly appreciated I have been watching your videos on yours rides especially the 1100 it a great bike. I live in Central Mississippi I am roughly two hours from New Orleans if you ever make a trip close I would like to catch up with you and ride with you guys I also have been following the life of Burch also. if interested let me know and I will send you my number. Thank you for your time. Dean
can you tell me about your hitch carrier, Im looking to get the 150, and was thinking of a trailer, but i see your hitch carrier and probably would feel better with a carrier than a trailer. I didn't think the scooter would be able to fit a carrier. any help appreciated.
Howdy, Ray! I purchased that Haul-Master carrier from Harbor Freight several years ago on sale for $99.99. They don't seem to carry that all-steel model anymore, but they've replaced it with an aluminum version: www.harborfreight.com/400-lb-receiver-mount-aluminum-motorcycle-carrier-62837.html
You can get the exact same steel version from Amazon here: amzn.to/3IlPJI9 . It's rated to carry 500 pounds, but I wouldn't recommend anything over 400 pounds just for safety. The benefit of this steel model is that it uses a torqued mount on the reciver hitch to prevent it from tipping/wiggling around in the receiver on the vehicle. Cheers! 😉👍 --QM
@@QuasiMotard Thanks for the response, will add the link to amazon to my list . Cheers
Awesome and very helpful, well done even if you had to give up a kidney or two 🤣