Feels bad for SEE, he is my first GL. However, he helps complete a lot of challenges where is needed to kill 3 enemies at 1 turn and where enemies always respawns. He really helps with daily routine
@@AhnaldT101 I think the only data presentational issue I had was with the defensive holds. It was clear that the final column was average hold but I think it wouldve been better to show all of the individual GL-GL matchups as hold percentages rather than win percentage. Just means all the columns would be showing the same thing and a little bit clearer. Overall super helpful video though and well done on the level of depth!
Great analysis, but I think there’s one factor that was missed, and it has real impact in regards to accessibility. Ship requirements. If it weren’t for the lightspeed bundles, I probably would not have unlocked Rey or SLKR, almost exclusively because of their capital ship requirements and how either 1) painfully slow, or 2) painfully crystal-expensive (to accelerate with refreshes) their events are. And I’m a decent size account. 10.6m. I think those are pretty heavy strikes against SLKR and Rey, because it’s not just leveling up the fleet ships needed for the events, but then only potentially getting 10 shards of the capital ship per month. It could literally take years before you’re eligible to begin either the Rey or SLKR journey. None of the other GLs have this kind of hurdle. My two cents.
Ya know, Leia "Power Creep" Organa is all well and good, but you're forgetting the most important category! Looks! Which obviously Jabba takes it for just being so dang gorgeous!
I know this comment is a joke, but I like the idea of a looks ranking, so I figure I might as well do one. My looks order: 1. JMK 2. Leai 3. Lord Vader (Yes; I know it’s Hayden Christensen, but I’m also factoring in how he looks as presented to us in game) 4. SLKR 5. Rey 6. JML 7. Jabba 8. SEE (weirdly enough, I actually do believe that Jabba isn’t the ugliest, but it’s not like the last two on my list aren’t both ugly) I tried not to factor in any of my own preferences so as to look at things just from a perspective of general appearance.
After watching: maybe a little more to PvE…what I like is covering literally EVERYTHING. Even Conquest has its value on ranking. Feats irrelevant, just getting through it in general. But before I go through specifics, great video, I’ve been waiting for it FOREVER. Thank you. JML is used a lot for cheesing getting kills with a certain character like if it’s low gear and LS and is heavy on turn meter. SLKR good against heavy turn meter teams (Rey too, but not as good as SLKR). SEE with Sith Empire (a solid Fear team) or Bane or the triumvirate. JMK with his team durability and can practically deplete their stamina completely (that makes for a very good Conquest team). LV for a good AOE Daze with can shut down teams pretty quickly and his team’s survivability. Jabba, deadly bluff to start is a huge handicap against heavy assist teams. Leia, might die off quick, but ultimate can revive and turn meter given to team as long as she goes first (you’ll probably need Han in this case). Rey good for durability and Sudden Whirlwind and Damage Immunity with counter attacks with RHF, and very good with winning battles with LS characters surviving feats. Maybe all those could be ranked according to something similar to that. Like now for this conquest, JMK would probably win, but overall, which ones could get you through the most in general? I mean, being able to basically fully deplete a team’s stamina nearly and have them all survive still and used against maybe a 5th of the teams (albeit)…that’s pretty dang good. They each have their uses, I’d rank them according to how long they last, how good they are against the tougher teams and how good they are generally speaking on average in getting feats done. Like JML is the biggest cheesing kills, Rey is good on LS surviving…and so on. So yeah…I’d do that if I were to add anything else.
I thought about it but personally I’ve found every Galactic Legend useful. The feats and data disks are always changing too. There could be a conquest JML is absolutely not helpful at all. At the end of the day, I found every galactic legend helpful in Conquest.
@@AhnaldT101agreed- I’ve used every GL (except Jabba, farming him) all over Conquest when I can. I’ve never found one unhelpful JML does help cheese a few feats, but that’s only LS ones and could be completely useless if the feats change from one cycle to another Any advantage one has over another is likely to shift between cycles, so they average out, especially since farming a GL takes months
Hello Ahnald, I am returning to Swgoh after about 2 years of not playing. It would be great if you could possibly make a video about getting back into the grind and the meta! I remember watching every single video of yours back in the day. Glad to see the quality has only improved!
Ahnald! I have been watching you for about 5 years now! I love a lot of your videos but I have to say, this is probably the most informative and all around well done/useful video I have seen from you! This was fantastic!
@26:38 your true bias came out briefly with the flash of JML as #2 overall lol. But all seriousness, I agree with the list and assessment and using data to back it all up, including the exclusion of Bane for SEE. Another Banger! video and I'll be referencing it several times over the next year+ as I continue my farms. I'm like a week or two from unlocking Leia and having the undeniably best GL right now.
Great video @AhnaldT101! I'm a mechanical engineer so I love the extra data and graphs you did to with this one. A couple things I might include for your next GL ranking video would be: ~ How efficient each of these teams are on offense in terms of max banner. It would certainly help SEE as I feel that he is one of the better ones in this aspect. ~ What are they good against in terms of the "defensive" meta. Example: Who is good to take down Bo Mand'alor? Who struggles? ~ 3v3 GAC teams. As much as the community hates it, it is still half of GAC.
great video as usual Grandadmiral! But i think we could also need a category for the requirements as how easy those are to aquire. Like a WAT on rel 7 might take years with a beginner guild or a JKLS hard to achieve, while SEE is quite easy to get for new players.
Unique: Order 66: all 501st clones and commander Cody are considered empire. It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that. Think of how tanky 5s would be under LV, it would be awesome
@@osets2117 Would make cody viable and everything! Or maybe even give clone sergent a boost! 501st would be taken from gas, but that happens with time, just like JKA was taken from padme. Do better cg
I just gotta add when going off of personal experience: adding SLKR to any roster (for the relatively low cost) is huge value. The versatility of counters you get out of him on offense just makes so many matchups winnable that I would’ve never had a chance in before unlocking him
Awesome list and work you've put into this Ahnald! I think this video is not only a ranking video, but also is a tool that can be used when choosing your GL farms. I agree with not using the Bane data for Sith Eternal because it wouldnt be realistic to anyone whos in the early/mid game. Great work!
This was extremely helpful! Thank you! I just unlocked the ultimate on SLKR as my first GL and have been trying to decide where to go next. I’m close to unlocking Rey due to the LS bundle, so she’ll be next. I was gonna go to SEE third, but after seeing this, I’ll probably go to JMK
This is a very well put together video! I love how you went with data most of the time instead of your own personal experience. I would rank them as Leia, jabba, jmk, slkr, rey, jmls, lv, see. Jabba gets a boost bc his resource event is crazy valuable, plus he gives free points in TB for his required combat missions. Jmls gets a small boost just bc his reqs overlap with leia and jabba a good bit. And Slkr is simply the best first GL to get.
So I know people think I’m crazy but I’m going after LV as my first GL. JMK will be my second. Why? Because I first started playing the game because I enjoy Star Wars and the characters. Anakin and obi wan are my favorite characters so I’m going after them first. Regardless of anything else.
I got lord vader as my first GL and did not regret it but I realize now that it made me afraid to upgrade characters with kyrotechs or relic materials.
I loved the way you were able to organize and present this data. Definitely well done and gives a good objective look at the value of the GLs! I will say that although JML is rated lower overall, he provides one of the best cheesing strategies with his taunt and true damage in conquest to get feats with lower powered characters with the use of Wat Tambor or Voluntary Vanguard. Definitely helps smaller accounts chase after those conquest characters!
25:14 correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't JMK's ranking wrong? I might have missed something, but that doesn't look like it should be the average for that grouping.
Eventually I will get Bane. And then my SEE will be good. SEE was my first GL because I already had all the stuff mostly farmed to some degree. I have recently finished half a year farm and got JMK, he is not ultimate and only r4, but at the end of the month I unlock CAT. So I will rely on JMK until I unlock Bane in a year.
It's great to see an overall view of the GLs from different perspectives like power and value. I recently unlocked SLKR as my first and Rey is looking like she'll be #2 but I will DEFINITELY be grinding for Leia next. She is just on another level. Thanks for the video, Ahnald!
I'm confused about Rey's Defense charts. All the blue bars look like they are up at 17:59 but the average hold rate only shows 17% for the non-optimized team. Wouldn't it be quite a bit higher than the green bars? Looking at the rest of the bars, I'm thinking this has to do with showing the win rate of the GL against Rey. Just seems kind of backwards compared to the attacking charts. Maybe just flip the percentages for those defense charts to match the format of the "Average Hold Rate" bars
Great video! Thank you so much! This is very, very helpful. Trying to choose my next target to farm towards, and this video came out at the perfect time. Wow. Great content here.
24:51 Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. I think her reign of being the best character in the game may even exceed the length and dominance of the reign of JMK. Cg definitely did a great job with their “offense-oriented gl.”
One point that I think is important in rankings that isn't shown here is requirements used in other farms, whether it be GL's or ships. I would either put it in the first chart or do an additional addendum at the end like Personal Rankings.
Oooooo I'm so excited to watch! Judging by the visuals and length I know you poured your heart and soul! Thanks for these videos GE, you're one of a kind! LLTTKEEEEEE Question: who is your absolute favourite GL to play with from a fun standpoint? (Barring objective metrics and scamacrons.) Personally I'd have to say SLKR or Rey, the constant jumping and heavy hitting abilities and WW is so clean or perhaps Jabba, the ult never gets old!
I like numbers and noticed that your tables did not follow the tradition of skipping numbers if there are ties (i.e. Rey & SEE both had 2nd place for Kyros, but JMK got 3rd instead of 4th) to keep there having an 8th place and prevent positive skew I can't tell if this is intentional, but I compensated for this myself The averages for the first table (farming & requirements) went: SLKR Rey JML SEE JMK LV Jabba LO 2 - 3.5 - 3.75 - 5 - 5.25 - 6.25 - 4.75 - 4 The second table's averages (PvP viability) were also: SLKR Rey JML SEE JMK LV Jabba LO 4.8 - 5.4 - 6 - 6.8 - 4 - 4.2 - 4.75 - 4 With these, the overall averages would get updated as well, but since 2 GLs tied after all averages (Rey & JMK), I thought we could use PvE as a tie-breaker. Therefore, the final rankings are: Leia Organa Supreme Leader Kylo Ren Jabba the Hutt Jedi Master Kenobi Rey Jedi Master Luke Skywalker Lord Vader Sith Eternal Emperor As always, this is only so helpful depending on where you're at and why you are pursuing each GL. I just thought it would be fun and wanted to share the results
I LOVE THIS!!! Personally, I’d like to rank GLs based on their Journey Guide Connections. For example, Jedi Knight Luke’s requirements connect to Jedi Master Luke, which in turn connects to Leia! Also, Grand Master Yoda & Padme’s requirements connect to Jedi Master Kenobi!
Under the requirements sections you should go into more detail regarding ships. Example: SLKR is nice cause you get an entire fleet but it also takes way longer to farm those requirements. While, JML only requires one ship so it will be much easier to get but doesn't build any fleet for you.
This is really helpful for my F2P account. With my F2P I went for a fun route. What I mean by that is I got characters that I wanted because I want them not because I really need them. So I got all the legendarys which basically means I have options for GLs and I was thinking JMK so glad he’s number 2 and 3 on the rankings
Glad to see my gut instinct was (mostly) good, I've been working on kenobi as a f2p for around a year now, but my guild stopped doing ds geo so I'm no longer getting consistent wat shards
I'm working on JMK on my 2nd account (1st GL [damn those Wat Shards]) and just got JMLS as my 1st GL on my primary account (all nice andmaxedout now thank you) . I'm thinking Leia as next (have half the prereqs) after watching this I'm confident in that decision.
I would recommend adding one more variable into your calculations related to the accessibility of the optimized team. Your final total shows that JMK is number 2, but that's heavily skewed by his optimized squad. For any one who joined the game after a conquest character's conquest has ended will spend 6 to 18 months farming those characters, like Cat, Ben, Maul, and Bane through proving grounds. As such, Jabba is higher than JMK because you farm his requirements and you have one variant of the optimized team, whereas, players farming for Cat, Ben, Maul won't have the optimized team after farming the reqs. It would also be nice to have some rating for these characters in PvE included, even if the PvE scoring is weighted less than the PvP weighting. Jabba, for example, has a node in every phase of RotE. That makes him more valuable because it's an all or nothing situation. You either have him and generate 3M TP or you don't and generate 0. LV has a node that generates 200k. Some GL's, like SEE have little to no use in TB. I think, at least, weighing TB would be useful, since TB offers better rewards than TW.
I agree with this 98% but something to consider is if you get a team for a GL by farming a different GL, so example, if you already have SEE up and running, then you also have a LV team made, not a perfect one mind you but a team. And if you get LV first, the JMK gets Padme earlier. Don’t think this would affect the rankings, but something to consider
A lot of work went into this and I loved it. Leia is prob the best to look at now or even as a first. The fact she leads so well into other farms and set you up for JKL is too sweet to overlook.
For the defensive analysis, it definitely would be better to show the hold rate against each galactic legend, with the final column by total average hold rate. Should just be 100 - the success rate of the galactic legend vs the target GL on defence. Otherwise you have to switch from the GLs loss rate on defence (the bad thing) to their viability on defence (the good thing) in the middle of the graph. But a very good video!
I thought about that. Is that a pro or con though? Should it be a plus because they are more accessible or a con meaning don’t waste your time farming? The other issue is, 99% of the year lightspeed bundles aren’t available. Does no one good who is new to the game.
This is a very creative and amazing way of showing the value of each GL. I think it would be nice a video explaining each best team for every GL, like why is x character the best team for this GL. I am kind of a new player and I really don’t understand why is Cal Kestis a good character for the Rey team for example.
It’s always good to see another AnahldT video. I need help. My guild is engaged in it’s first territory war but I don’t know how it works or what I’m supposed to do as the leader
It sounds like you're guild is mostly comprised of new-ish players with low GP? If your guild has geonosians, put a wall of geonosians down, especially if many of you have the omicron on Poggle. Usually if there is a geonosian front wall people will choose that over the other wall, which means you can "trap" the enemy guild, put some heavy defensive teams behind the geonosians.
@@GrandReaper735 No worries m8! I’m already in a guild with some lovely people, so I won’t be planning on leaving it any time soon. But lemme know your guild name and I’ll check it out!
I gotta say, being f2p, it has been a struggle, but I’ve finally got SEE, I’m going for SLKR next, and I’m now 2nd in command for of my guild. It’s been a good year so far! Long Live The Kyber Empire! Edit: I said this stuff watching through the video, after SLKR, I think I’ll try and go for Jabba next, I was thinking of going for LV (for Bad Batch), but I think Jabba will be more worth it
Great video. As a fairly early LS Bundle player, I’ll probably make the most use of the graphic that emphasizes value. That’ll change as my earned GP grows.
Psrsonally i think JMLS is such a great starter GL because of the shared reqs witb Jabba/Leia. For that and many of the side teams get very good in the long run as well. Felt like that was overlooked a bit
About to get Rey and was going to use Rose instead of RJT in my resistance team (to help Holdo) - is that a bad idea? Also, for the ‘optimised’ team I’m planning L3-37 instead of Barriss. Would that not work as well?
I think it is worth at least mentioning in regards to GL usefulness with conquest for the bits of conquest that tend to be the same across each cycle. Jabba is super useful for beating bosses and get the common feat of using no force users. Rey and JML are very handy for cheese completing do X thing with a character you have low geared X number of times feats.
Hey I just got my first GL - Sith Eternal Emp. Can someone explain to me how to use his 'ideal team' none of it makes sense to me.. I can understand Thrawn, but thats it lol
My personal recommendation is still SLKR- He's so cheap and such a swiss army knife of a GL. Seasonal stuff like Raids, Conquest, GCs, and other special events he's still my go-to because he just has immediate power in any situation and a huge ability to ramp up. Leia and Jabba have comparable power in most cases, too, but they are so expensive to go for first.
I'm currently aiming for JMK... the out of left field issue is getting Shaak Ti to full stars (stuck on the Normal Fleet Battle where Tarkin seems to have 10,000 Turn Meter).
Yeah she is a pain getting to her nose 3*, (tip is since you need the negotiator for JMK you can try and get it asap to easier get to the node, now I get that isn’t that easy either but just something to think about) Also another tip if ur farming JMK is getting into a guild that gives a lot of wat tembor shards, cause he is the req that takes the longest to farm (unless you have problem with relic 8 mats, but I figured it isn’t to hard to get since the recent raid changes with the mk3 currency etc) Hope it helps :D
Well it depends right, obviously more shards is always gonna be better it’s just take into consideration how long you think it will take to get all the other reqs expect the wat shards (don’t need exact time of course, that will be very hard but try and guess) and then aim for a guild that suits that. So if you for example need about 255 shards from where you are now and you think you will need about 15 months try and find a guild with about 17 shards per month. Now more precise of a answers for your question would maybe be… 25? I would say that if the majority of the guild does the mission that’s a good amount, and you can will hav him 7* relatively quickly (The tip is also to obviously gear up geos for the wat event so you can complete the mission yourself, which could speed up the process) This got unnecessarily long so apologizes 😅
I think optimized Def should be a little bit different from optimized Offense, as best SEE def would be SEE Sith Traya, Nihilus, Savage. The same term should be applied to SLKR.
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Minor misunderstanding: Bane isn't SEE lifter
SEE is Bane 's lifter
Feels bad for SEE, he is my first GL. However, he helps complete a lot of challenges where is needed to kill 3 enemies at 1 turn and where enemies always respawns. He really helps with daily routine
SEE is a utility GL…
Shit, he was my last and 4th (jmk-jml-lv-see)
He's an auto 69 on most battles. He can beat half the GLs. He's underrated.
He is my 6th gl he has great purpose not the best gl but still a awesome character
I'm a data guy, and this was very well put together. Great video!
Glad you think so! Was worried it was too much or confusing.
It was excellent, you put so much work into your videos!
It was for sure; it must’ve taken quite a while to get everything organized.
@@AhnaldT101 I think the only data presentational issue I had was with the defensive holds. It was clear that the final column was average hold but I think it wouldve been better to show all of the individual GL-GL matchups as hold percentages rather than win percentage. Just means all the columns would be showing the same thing and a little bit clearer. Overall super helpful video though and well done on the level of depth!
3 am is the best time for an arnoldt101 video!
Great analysis, but I think there’s one factor that was missed, and it has real impact in regards to accessibility. Ship requirements. If it weren’t for the lightspeed bundles, I probably would not have unlocked Rey or SLKR, almost exclusively because of their capital ship requirements and how either 1) painfully slow, or 2) painfully crystal-expensive (to accelerate with refreshes) their events are. And I’m a decent size account. 10.6m. I think those are pretty heavy strikes against SLKR and Rey, because it’s not just leveling up the fleet ships needed for the events, but then only potentially getting 10 shards of the capital ship per month. It could literally take years before you’re eligible to begin either the Rey or SLKR journey. None of the other GLs have this kind of hurdle. My two cents.
Fun fact.....
Love a early AM video drop, Proves the kyber club never sleeps!
Ya know, Leia "Power Creep" Organa is all well and good, but you're forgetting the most important category! Looks! Which obviously Jabba takes it for just being so dang gorgeous!
In all seriousness, smash leia
I know this comment is a joke, but I like the idea of a looks ranking, so I figure I might as well do one.
My looks order:
1. JMK
2. Leai
3. Lord Vader (Yes; I know it’s Hayden Christensen, but I’m also factoring in how he looks as presented to us in game)
4. SLKR
5. Rey
6. JML
7. Jabba
8. SEE (weirdly enough, I actually do believe that Jabba isn’t the ugliest, but it’s not like the last two on my list aren’t both ugly)
I tried not to factor in any of my own preferences so as to look at things just from a perspective of general appearance.
Lol, I literally loled
After watching: maybe a little more to PvE…what I like is covering literally EVERYTHING. Even Conquest has its value on ranking. Feats irrelevant, just getting through it in general. But before I go through specifics, great video, I’ve been waiting for it FOREVER. Thank you.
JML is used a lot for cheesing getting kills with a certain character like if it’s low gear and LS and is heavy on turn meter. SLKR good against heavy turn meter teams (Rey too, but not as good as SLKR). SEE with Sith Empire (a solid Fear team) or Bane or the triumvirate. JMK with his team durability and can practically deplete their stamina completely (that makes for a very good Conquest team). LV for a good AOE Daze with can shut down teams pretty quickly and his team’s survivability. Jabba, deadly bluff to start is a huge handicap against heavy assist teams. Leia, might die off quick, but ultimate can revive and turn meter given to team as long as she goes first (you’ll probably need Han in this case). Rey good for durability and Sudden Whirlwind and Damage Immunity with counter attacks with RHF, and very good with winning battles with LS characters surviving feats.
Maybe all those could be ranked according to something similar to that. Like now for this conquest, JMK would probably win, but overall, which ones could get you through the most in general? I mean, being able to basically fully deplete a team’s stamina nearly and have them all survive still and used against maybe a 5th of the teams (albeit)…that’s pretty dang good. They each have their uses, I’d rank them according to how long they last, how good they are against the tougher teams and how good they are generally speaking on average in getting feats done. Like JML is the biggest cheesing kills, Rey is good on LS surviving…and so on. So yeah…I’d do that if I were to add anything else.
I thought about it but personally I’ve found every Galactic Legend useful. The feats and data disks are always changing too. There could be a conquest JML is absolutely not helpful at all. At the end of the day, I found every galactic legend helpful in Conquest.
@@AhnaldT101 but are there some that are more useful than others? Like the JMK stamina depletion he mentioned?
@@flyinggyrados4591I’ve used every GL all the way down to 0%. Some better than others but it depends on the data disk of the season.
@@AhnaldT101agreed- I’ve used every GL (except Jabba, farming him) all over Conquest when I can. I’ve never found one unhelpful
JML does help cheese a few feats, but that’s only LS ones and could be completely useless if the feats change from one cycle to another
Any advantage one has over another is likely to shift between cycles, so they average out, especially since farming a GL takes months
Hello Ahnald, I am returning to Swgoh after about 2 years of not playing. It would be great if you could possibly make a video about getting back into the grind and the meta! I remember watching every single video of yours back in the day. Glad to see the quality has only improved!
Ahnald! I have been watching you for about 5 years now! I love a lot of your videos but I have to say, this is probably the most informative and all around well done/useful video I have seen from you! This was fantastic!
@26:38 your true bias came out briefly with the flash of JML as #2 overall lol.
But all seriousness, I agree with the list and assessment and using data to back it all up, including the exclusion of Bane for SEE.
Another Banger! video and I'll be referencing it several times over the next year+ as I continue my farms.
I'm like a week or two from unlocking Leia and having the undeniably best GL right now.
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Great video @AhnaldT101! I'm a mechanical engineer so I love the extra data and graphs you did to with this one. A couple things I might include for your next GL ranking video would be:
~ How efficient each of these teams are on offense in terms of max banner. It would certainly help SEE as I feel that he is one of the better ones in this aspect.
~ What are they good against in terms of the "defensive" meta. Example: Who is good to take down Bo Mand'alor? Who struggles?
~ 3v3 GAC teams. As much as the community hates it, it is still half of GAC.
great video as usual Grandadmiral! But i think we could also need a category for the requirements as how easy those are to aquire. Like a WAT on rel 7 might take years with a beginner guild or a JKLS hard to achieve, while SEE is quite easy to get for new players.
Amazing video as always!!! I couldnt think in another metric for this video. This video couldnt be more perfect than this! Thanks oh mighty Emperor!
they really should let us use clones, should have been an order 66 ability, but instead cg said lets pair him with maul.... still blows my mind
Unique:
Order 66: all 501st clones and commander Cody are considered empire.
It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.
Think of how tanky 5s would be under LV, it would be awesome
@@osets2117 Would make cody viable and everything! Or maybe even give clone sergent a boost! 501st would be taken from gas, but that happens with time, just like JKA was taken from padme. Do better cg
@@TroopersonBreak6666 exactly lol
5:30 is that a sneak peak at the new farming guide 🤔
I just gotta add when going off of personal experience: adding SLKR to any roster (for the relatively low cost) is huge value. The versatility of counters you get out of him on offense just makes so many matchups winnable that I would’ve never had a chance in before unlocking him
Awesome list and work you've put into this Ahnald!
I think this video is not only a ranking video, but also is a tool that can be used when choosing your GL farms. I agree with not using the Bane data for Sith Eternal because it wouldnt be realistic to anyone whos in the early/mid game.
Great work!
This was extremely helpful! Thank you!
I just unlocked the ultimate on SLKR as my first GL and have been trying to decide where to go next.
I’m close to unlocking Rey due to the LS bundle, so she’ll be next. I was gonna go to SEE third, but after seeing this, I’ll probably go to JMK
So much effort into this video. Love it
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a very well put together video! I love how you went with data most of the time instead of your own personal experience.
I would rank them as Leia, jabba, jmk, slkr, rey, jmls, lv, see.
Jabba gets a boost bc his resource event is crazy valuable, plus he gives free points in TB for his required combat missions. Jmls gets a small boost just bc his reqs overlap with leia and jabba a good bit. And Slkr is simply the best first GL to get.
So I know people think I’m crazy but I’m going after LV as my first GL. JMK will be my second. Why? Because I first started playing the game because I enjoy Star Wars and the characters. Anakin and obi wan are my favorite characters so I’m going after them first. Regardless of anything else.
I got lord vader as my first GL and did not regret it but I realize now that it made me afraid to upgrade characters with kyrotechs or relic materials.
I loved the way you were able to organize and present this data. Definitely well done and gives a good objective look at the value of the GLs!
I will say that although JML is rated lower overall, he provides one of the best cheesing strategies with his taunt and true damage in conquest to get feats with lower powered characters with the use of Wat Tambor or Voluntary Vanguard. Definitely helps smaller accounts chase after those conquest characters!
F2P going for Jabba rn, really felt the struggle when you were talking about the Jawa farm 😭
This made me really happy to see that I farmed Leia. Unlocking her this week, she's likely going to lift me up quite a bit in GA.
Hell yeah baby! LV not dead last 😂🎉 27:31
Great video. Loved the data points and the unbiased analytics. This must’ve taken a ton of work, awesome job!
25:14 correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't JMK's ranking wrong? I might have missed something, but that doesn't look like it should be the average for that grouping.
really appreciate the data backing up the claims for the GLs as well as the effort put in to collecting and graphing the data
Eventually I will get Bane. And then my SEE will be good.
SEE was my first GL because I already had all the stuff mostly farmed to some degree.
I have recently finished half a year farm and got JMK, he is not ultimate and only r4, but at the end of the month I unlock CAT.
So I will rely on JMK until I unlock Bane in a year.
By far the best vidéo you prépared and made Ahnald, along with the best farming guid and Teams ranking.
Continue your incredible work
It's great to see an overall view of the GLs from different perspectives like power and value. I recently unlocked SLKR as my first and Rey is looking like she'll be #2 but I will DEFINITELY be grinding for Leia next. She is just on another level. Thanks for the video, Ahnald!
I'm confused about Rey's Defense charts. All the blue bars look like they are up at 17:59 but the average hold rate only shows 17% for the non-optimized team. Wouldn't it be quite a bit higher than the green bars?
Looking at the rest of the bars, I'm thinking this has to do with showing the win rate of the GL against Rey. Just seems kind of backwards compared to the attacking charts. Maybe just flip the percentages for those defense charts to match the format of the "Average Hold Rate" bars
Great video! Thank you so much! This is very, very helpful. Trying to choose my next target to farm towards, and this video came out at the perfect time. Wow. Great content here.
SLKR is hopefully going to get a lifter soon, most likely snoke, and I wouldn’t mind a FO faction lifter in general.
just got slkr yesterday so excited to use him!!!!!!
24:51 Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
I think her reign of being the best character in the game may even exceed the length and dominance of the reign of JMK. Cg definitely did a great job with their “offense-oriented gl.”
One point that I think is important in rankings that isn't shown here is requirements used in other farms, whether it be GL's or ships. I would either put it in the first chart or do an additional addendum at the end like Personal Rankings.
Hey i noticed in the offense and defense section there is no mirror match stat. Not a huge thing but some thing i noticed. Love the video
Is that chart about what Bane does without SEE with omicrons or without?
Oooooo I'm so excited to watch! Judging by the visuals and length I know you poured your heart and soul! Thanks for these videos GE, you're one of a kind! LLTTKEEEEEE
Question: who is your absolute favourite GL to play with from a fun standpoint? (Barring objective metrics and scamacrons.) Personally I'd have to say SLKR or Rey, the constant jumping and heavy hitting abilities and WW is so clean or perhaps Jabba, the ult never gets old!
I think it's been a few years since you're a galactic Legends glad to see it
I like numbers and noticed that your tables did not follow the tradition of skipping numbers if there are ties (i.e. Rey & SEE both had 2nd place for Kyros, but JMK got 3rd instead of 4th) to keep there having an 8th place and prevent positive skew
I can't tell if this is intentional, but I compensated for this myself
The averages for the first table (farming & requirements) went:
SLKR Rey JML SEE JMK LV Jabba LO
2 - 3.5 - 3.75 - 5 - 5.25 - 6.25 - 4.75 - 4
The second table's averages (PvP viability) were also:
SLKR Rey JML SEE JMK LV Jabba LO
4.8 - 5.4 - 6 - 6.8 - 4 - 4.2 - 4.75 - 4
With these, the overall averages would get updated as well, but since 2 GLs tied after all averages (Rey & JMK), I thought we could use PvE as a tie-breaker. Therefore, the final rankings are:
Leia Organa
Supreme Leader Kylo Ren
Jabba the Hutt
Jedi Master Kenobi
Rey
Jedi Master Luke Skywalker
Lord Vader
Sith Eternal Emperor
As always, this is only so helpful depending on where you're at and why you are pursuing each GL. I just thought it would be fun and wanted to share the results
I LOVE THIS!!! Personally, I’d like to rank GLs based on their Journey Guide Connections. For example, Jedi Knight Luke’s requirements connect to Jedi Master Luke, which in turn connects to Leia! Also, Grand Master Yoda & Padme’s requirements connect to Jedi Master Kenobi!
I've seen Thrawn lead work vs Jabba with help of Gar/ISC and other IMPS. It's difficult!
Yeah it is not consistent or a popular counter at this point in time.
Great analysis with a bunch of nice infographic! Thank you, GA! You are the best!
Under the requirements sections you should go into more detail regarding ships. Example: SLKR is nice cause you get an entire fleet but it also takes way longer to farm those requirements. While, JML only requires one ship so it will be much easier to get but doesn't build any fleet for you.
Great analysis, loved the vid. Only critique was no importance placed on the jabba special event. Feel like mod slicing materials are very valuable!
THIS is a perfect overview video. Thanks a lot!
Excellent video here, really appreciate the approach and the info. Thanks!
This is really helpful for my F2P account. With my F2P I went for a fun route. What I mean by that is I got characters that I wanted because I want them not because I really need them. So I got all the legendarys which basically means I have options for GLs and I was thinking JMK so glad he’s number 2 and 3 on the rankings
Pls explain 18:29 moment. Rey has better chance to stay strong with basic requirements rather than with optimized team?
You said the data you pulled from was from Kyber with no datacrons. But doesn't almost everyone in Kyber use them?
Glad to see my gut instinct was (mostly) good, I've been working on kenobi as a f2p for around a year now, but my guild stopped doing ds geo so I'm no longer getting consistent wat shards
I'm working on JMK on my 2nd account (1st GL [damn those Wat Shards]) and just got JMLS as my 1st GL on my primary account (all nice andmaxedout now thank you) . I'm thinking Leia as next (have half the prereqs) after watching this I'm confident in that decision.
I would recommend adding one more variable into your calculations related to the accessibility of the optimized team. Your final total shows that JMK is number 2, but that's heavily skewed by his optimized squad. For any one who joined the game after a conquest character's conquest has ended will spend 6 to 18 months farming those characters, like Cat, Ben, Maul, and Bane through proving grounds.
As such, Jabba is higher than JMK because you farm his requirements and you have one variant of the optimized team, whereas, players farming for Cat, Ben, Maul won't have the optimized team after farming the reqs.
It would also be nice to have some rating for these characters in PvE included, even if the PvE scoring is weighted less than the PvP weighting. Jabba, for example, has a node in every phase of RotE. That makes him more valuable because it's an all or nothing situation. You either have him and generate 3M TP or you don't and generate 0. LV has a node that generates 200k. Some GL's, like SEE have little to no use in TB. I think, at least, weighing TB would be useful, since TB offers better rewards than TW.
I agree with this 98% but something to consider is if you get a team for a GL by farming a different GL, so example, if you already have SEE up and running, then you also have a LV team made, not a perfect one mind you but a team. And if you get LV first, the JMK gets Padme earlier. Don’t think this would affect the rankings, but something to consider
Most entertaining man on RUclips 🏆
I appreciate Ahnald for making this video helps out a lot
A lot of work went into this and I loved it.
Leia is prob the best to look at now or even as a first.
The fact she leads so well into other farms and set you up for JKL is too sweet to overlook.
For the defensive analysis, it definitely would be better to show the hold rate against each galactic legend, with the final column by total average hold rate. Should just be 100 - the success rate of the galactic legend vs the target GL on defence.
Otherwise you have to switch from the GLs loss rate on defence (the bad thing) to their viability on defence (the good thing) in the middle of the graph.
But a very good video!
What about fleets? half of my considerations into GLs was what fleets do they get me for the boost in low level GAC and fleet arena payouts.
Another factor - is there a Lightspeed Bundle? 🤔
I thought about that. Is that a pro or con though? Should it be a plus because they are more accessible or a con meaning don’t waste your time farming? The other issue is, 99% of the year lightspeed bundles aren’t available. Does no one good who is new to the game.
This is a very creative and amazing way of showing the value of each GL. I think it would be nice a video explaining each best team for every GL, like why is x character the best team for this GL. I am kind of a new player and I really don’t understand why is Cal Kestis a good character for the Rey team for example.
It’s always good to see another AnahldT video. I need help. My guild is engaged in it’s first territory war but I don’t know how it works or what I’m supposed to do as the leader
It sounds like you're guild is mostly comprised of new-ish players with low GP? If your guild has geonosians, put a wall of geonosians down, especially if many of you have the omicron on Poggle. Usually if there is a geonosian front wall people will choose that over the other wall, which means you can "trap" the enemy guild, put some heavy defensive teams behind the geonosians.
@@Octotype Thank you. You know, maybe you can join me if you would like. We could use someone like you.
@@GrandReaper735 No worries m8! I’m already in a guild with some lovely people, so I won’t be planning on leaving it any time soon. But lemme know your guild name and I’ll check it out!
@@Octotype It’s called the “Dark Kingdom of Reaper” it has 3 people, including me, so you know ahead of time. I thinking about changing the name
This was a very fun way to compare the galactic legends.I liked it a lot
But if you have SEE and LV the cimpliment each others requirements
I gotta say, being f2p, it has been a struggle, but I’ve finally got SEE, I’m going for SLKR next, and I’m now 2nd in command for of my guild. It’s been a good year so far! Long Live The Kyber Empire!
Edit: I said this stuff watching through the video, after SLKR, I think I’ll try and go for Jabba next, I was thinking of going for LV (for Bad Batch), but I think Jabba will be more worth it
Jabba is definitely worth it, it’s great for the mods componentes as well as the ROTE special missions
Very thought out and thorough. Thank you Grand Admiral.
Appreciate the effort that went into this, so glad LV isn’t dead last 😅
Great video. As a fairly early LS Bundle player, I’ll probably make the most use of the graphic that emphasizes value. That’ll change as my earned GP grows.
Good stuff here - love all the charts and graphs!
yooo ahnald love the video! thanks for posting! keep it up!
Psrsonally i think JMLS is such a great starter GL because of the shared reqs witb Jabba/Leia. For that and many of the side teams get very good in the long run as well.
Felt like that was overlooked a bit
good to see the KC vip pass paying off
Such a great video with vital information! Thank you for this.
I just got done with the executor portion of the Jabba farm video from last year. Should I pivot to a different GL?
About to get Rey and was going to use Rose instead of RJT in my resistance team (to help Holdo) - is that a bad idea?
Also, for the ‘optimised’ team I’m planning L3-37 instead of Barriss. Would that not work as well?
I think it is worth at least mentioning in regards to GL usefulness with conquest for the bits of conquest that tend to be the same across each cycle. Jabba is super useful for beating bosses and get the common feat of using no force users. Rey and JML are very handy for cheese completing do X thing with a character you have low geared X number of times feats.
Great one, GA! Thanks!
Hey I just got my first GL - Sith Eternal Emp.
Can someone explain to me how to use his 'ideal team' none of it makes sense to me..
I can understand Thrawn, but thats it lol
This is fantastic. Great work!!!
Can you do a video on the optimal teams for galactic legends? Like why they work and why not to use other characters?
My personal recommendation is still SLKR- He's so cheap and such a swiss army knife of a GL. Seasonal stuff like Raids, Conquest, GCs, and other special events he's still my go-to because he just has immediate power in any situation and a huge ability to ramp up. Leia and Jabba have comparable power in most cases, too, but they are so expensive to go for first.
Big fan of this video. Just about to unlock JMLS and then pushing straight on to Leia
What's the best way to farm kyrotechs for someone who just hit max level and is f2p?
This is great! I am going for SLKR first cause of the light-seed bundle! He's a bit faster than rey for me to get so going for him first then rey.
Reference video - saved! Love your work, Long live free to play
Love that kind of videos full of data. Is there a way to get the images that are shown?
Thanks for the video! It was amazing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Recently unlocked JMK as my first GL, so really happy about that :D
(Currently working towards ultimate)
I'm currently aiming for JMK... the out of left field issue is getting Shaak Ti to full stars (stuck on the Normal Fleet Battle where Tarkin seems to have 10,000 Turn Meter).
Yeah she is a pain getting to her nose 3*, (tip is since you need the negotiator for JMK you can try and get it asap to easier get to the node, now I get that isn’t that easy either but just something to think about)
Also another tip if ur farming JMK is getting into a guild that gives a lot of wat tembor shards, cause he is the req that takes the longest to farm (unless you have problem with relic 8 mats, but I figured it isn’t to hard to get since the recent raid changes with the mk3 currency etc)
Hope it helps :D
@@dedarknes2536 what's considered "a lot" of Wat Tambor shards per event?
Well it depends right, obviously more shards is always gonna be better it’s just take into consideration how long you think it will take to get all the other reqs expect the wat shards (don’t need exact time of course, that will be very hard but try and guess) and then aim for a guild that suits that. So if you for example need about 255 shards from where you are now and you think you will need about 15 months try and find a guild with about 17 shards per month.
Now more precise of a answers for your question would maybe be… 25? I would say that if the majority of the guild does the mission that’s a good amount, and you can will hav him 7* relatively quickly
(The tip is also to obviously gear up geos for the wat event so you can complete the mission yourself, which could speed up the process)
This got unnecessarily long so apologizes 😅
GREAT video! My only quibble is I would flip Lord Vader and JML in my personal rankings.
I think optimized Def should be a little bit different from optimized Offense, as best SEE def would be SEE Sith Traya, Nihilus, Savage. The same term should be applied to SLKR.
Yep it is! I said I used things like Savage Omicron for defense analysis. Wat Armorer was only for offense.
there is one more thing you could have included, what is overlapping farms for the second or third legend.
YESSSSSSSS IVE BEEN WAITING BRO
Could you do a Legendary character ranking? Thing s like JKR, Darth Revan, GAS, etc.
Amazing video with so much good info
My favorite was your list of non GL counters. Can you expand on this in a video
Really good material, thanks :)👊👍