John Lyons is the BEST hands down for trailer loading. When you use his methods, not ONLY will they load in the middle of a hurricane with all their buddies screaming at them, they will load quietly and safely...and maybe most importantly will UNLOAD the same way. Most people think the most important thing is that they get in, and you can shut the door on them. John teaches ONE foot in, then ONE foot back out. They are rock solid with this method, and because they're so solid, you will never have an issue again...and that is going to save you a ton of time and grief in the future. Lyons is an absolute MASTER. Thx John!!
I learned from John Lyons in the early 80s. He gave me a solid foundation to be the good horseman I am today. Not bragging but the round pen completely changed and allowed me to do colts and have a good career working horses. Thanks John I ever so grateful for your ability to convey your expertise to me!!
We got to meet John back in the late 80's during some of his rare trips to Florida... This was way before the internet, RUclips, and even DVD's... it was called VHS tapes. Used his training methods to work with many horses of ours including a few that the owners claimed to be un-trainable. People would be amazed how quickly horses would respond to these methods and it would become fun for the horse. The 3 rules, I don't get hurt, the horse does not get hurt, and end on a positive note! no matter how bad a training day is, there is always a positive note. We as humans, must be able to read their ques.
I attended three of John’s symposiums in the early 90’s. Two as a spectator, one as a participant at Cal Poly Pomona. I was in my early 20’s and didn’t realize the gift I had received at the time BUT it did change the way I viewed horsemanship! ❤
I have been good friends of John, Josh, Michael, and Jody for a number of years. I have also hosted clinics of his. His methods flat work. Go to Rick Watke on you tube. Just from this short video I had no problems selling my horse. I used Johns methods to get my horse to do what he did in the video.
Thanks John for sharing this clip, I can say that the talk about looking at different spots (areas) on the horse made a lot of sense to me, and will certainly assist me in furthering my horses training.
Alex, props for recognizing the horse's body moves which are similar to the ones he will be using when he's cutting cattle. But, this training isn't about cutting at all. It's the very BASIC stuff of teaching the horse a very alien concept: "We are going to become dance partners. I will always lead. I will teach you how to follow (read) me. So, when I apply pressure here, you shall respond by doing that." Upon this basic foundation, more complex "moves" are built. Hope this helped. :-)
I have the full series , perfect start for the unbroke horse. For people saying negative things, shame on you. When you have to mention other horse trainers that whip the snot or have to use exaggerated body gestures to get their horse to lead or backup, pathetic. Het your head out of the clouds, you can train your horse with a thumb movement. John is beyond fabulous with horses in an extremely genuine credible guy. Why does everything have to be a debate! Thanks John n Josh. 🧡
Lyons is the best, period end of story! Still trying to figure out all this bullshit with a flag and a whip. No I'm lying, start a horse in the round pen Lyons way and you eliminate all the bullshit I'm seeing on RUclips and I started hundreds of horses this way.
@@patrickhennigan9689 Completely agree. Lyons always said he didn't 'invent' the horse training concepts, and that's true... but I will say John is the guy who did it best, fastest, and with the least amount of equipment. When these methods are properly applied, you don't get hurt/nor does the horse, and the horse is SOLID and willing for the rest of their lives. Thanks John!! Saw you in Alberta, best horse $$ I ever spent. Got it back in spades!
thats soo cool, getting him to follow you as you turn like that! i once or twice got my horse to back up whilst i was standing aside her head facing in the same direction as her and i walked backwards and she did too.
For just once! I would like to see some one making a training video with a horse that is not so well trained. If our horses are already this trained before we start. Then whats the use. I want a video of horses that are doing it for the first time!!. Show us real horses with problems!!!
@Langly Miles, I took myself (a green rider) and a very green, eight-year-old horse with major issues, all the way to a calm and polite horse using his methods...and that was only by reading his book. It was not an overnight process, for sure.
I met John in the80s, and went to a number of his clinics. He would take horses at any level and improve them. Usin his methods, I have been able to take ra ge horses from cant touch to can ride in one (really long) day, 12 hours. Same thingnextday in 8 hours. Next day, 6 hours. Working these methods daily I could have another person riding that horse in less than a week. Really.
Yea, i have been training with my horse now in the pen and my familly have helped me much with it. What you said is exactaly what they said. Thank you =)
Thank you so much for this video. The video is perfect. I have a beautiful big power full young horse there need this training . The person there have uploaded this video, is this the real Johl Lyons or are you just a very big fan ?
I like to watch Monty Roberts videos as well and his advice was to let the horse get acquainted with the pen for "days" if need be to get him comfortable with it before working him. As long as it takes, kind of advice. kind of like you'd do with a horse N trailer. just put the trailer in the field and leave him alone with it to get acquainted. Hope this helps.
P.S- Rick Gore is great- I have learned sooo much from watching his videos- I knew nothing about horse care and found watching his videos to be most helpful while researching everything I could about horses before buying my first horse- IT is because of him that I ride bitless and have had some success with my filly- who was super sensitive and in dire need of proper sacking out- I learned about leadership and to ignore most of what other barn people would tell me to do- and do the research
I agree Kara. He’s taught me so much, and I’m enjoying so much success with my horses. I’m deeply grateful for his common sense based, free, advice & insight, as well as the fun-loving relationship he has with his horses which he shamelessly allows us to see.
Alex Diaz - Yep. And it is also the same for driving cattle or horse herds, and it is what some breeds of sheep dogs, like the border colie, do by instinct.
Loved this video! I haven't watched much John Lyons, but am going to start. He works a lot like we do (but better!). I posted a video comment of one of our yearling fillys being worked in the round pen...if it gets approved. Johnlyons2009, please approve my video response! Thanks,
No there’s two different types of turns, an inside turn and an outside turn. Just because he puts his butt towards you doesn’t necessarily mean he’s “disrespecting” you. It’s good to know how to get your horse to do both
Why? He never talkes about how good he is. And he is trying not to make good for people, but for horses, thats why he`s not so nice to people how they whant it to be.
I agree, horse training should be taught to people in a kind way, When ever I watch his videos I feel like i'm doing something wrong! Even though i'm not Rick can be a man b****
@hheellllooiittssmmee I kind of view as just blunt, because to him, what he says is common sense. I just ignore how he says things, and pay attention to what he says.
Basically all he does is tell you you're an idiot who tortures your horse while he's the god of horse training and horses bow at the very sight of him. He's good with horses, but bad with people.
John Lyons is the BEST hands down for trailer loading. When you use his methods, not ONLY will they load in the middle of a hurricane with all their buddies screaming at them, they will load quietly and safely...and maybe most importantly will UNLOAD the same way.
Most people think the most important thing is that they get in, and you can shut the door on them. John teaches ONE foot in, then ONE foot back out. They are rock solid with this method, and because they're so solid, you will never have an issue again...and that is going to save you a ton of time and grief in the future.
Lyons is an absolute MASTER. Thx John!!
I learned from John Lyons in the early 80s. He gave me a solid foundation to be the good horseman I am today. Not bragging but the round pen completely changed and allowed me to do colts and have a good career working horses. Thanks John I ever so grateful for your ability to convey your expertise to me!!
In as fare as man/horse communication goes, John Lyons is the only instructor I agree 100% with. No BS.
I know from personal experience how well John Lyons training methods work. They are by far the best I have ever come across.
We got to meet John back in the late 80's during some of his rare trips to Florida... This was way before the internet, RUclips, and even DVD's... it was called VHS tapes. Used his training methods to work with many horses of ours including a few that the owners claimed to be un-trainable. People would be amazed how quickly horses would respond to these methods and it would become fun for the horse. The 3 rules, I don't get hurt, the horse does not get hurt, and end on a positive note! no matter how bad a training day is, there is always a positive note. We as humans, must be able to read their ques.
I attended three of John’s symposiums in the early 90’s. Two as a spectator, one as a participant at Cal Poly Pomona. I was in my early 20’s and didn’t realize the gift I had received at the time BUT it did change the way I viewed horsemanship! ❤
John's methods are sound, they build trust and make for excellent ground manners.
I've been to several symposiums and am a big fan. 👍
I have been good friends of John, Josh, Michael, and Jody for a number of years. I have also hosted clinics of his. His methods flat work. Go to Rick Watke on you tube. Just from this short video I had no problems selling my horse. I used Johns methods to get my horse to do what he did in the video.
I share this video with all my friends!!! ALL the time! Thank you for this video! It is great for everyone to watch!!
Thanks John for sharing this clip, I can say that the talk about looking at different spots (areas) on the horse made a lot of sense to me, and will certainly assist me in furthering my horses training.
This guy is still the best.
Alex, props for recognizing the horse's body moves which are similar to the ones he will be using when he's cutting cattle.
But, this training isn't about cutting at all.
It's the very BASIC stuff of teaching the horse a very alien concept: "We are going to become dance partners. I will always lead. I will teach you how to follow (read) me. So, when I apply pressure here, you shall respond by doing that."
Upon this basic foundation, more complex "moves" are built. Hope this helped. :-)
I have the full series , perfect start for the unbroke horse. For people saying negative things, shame on you. When you have to mention other horse trainers that whip the snot or have to use exaggerated body gestures to get their horse to lead or backup, pathetic. Het your head out of the clouds, you can train your horse with a thumb movement. John is beyond fabulous with horses in an extremely genuine credible guy. Why does everything have to be a debate! Thanks John n Josh. 🧡
Lyons is the best, period end of story! Still trying to figure out all this bullshit with a flag and a whip. No I'm lying, start a horse in the round pen Lyons way and you eliminate all the bullshit I'm seeing on RUclips and I started hundreds of horses this way.
@@patrickhennigan9689 Completely agree.
Lyons always said he didn't 'invent' the horse training concepts, and that's true... but I will say John is the guy who did it best, fastest, and with the least amount of equipment. When these methods are properly applied, you don't get hurt/nor does the horse, and the horse is SOLID and willing for the rest of their lives.
Thanks John!! Saw you in Alberta, best horse $$ I ever spent. Got it back in spades!
thats soo cool, getting him to follow you as you turn like that! i once or twice got my horse to back up whilst i was standing aside her head facing in the same direction as her and i walked backwards and she did too.
For just once! I would like to see some one making a training video with a horse that is not so well trained. If our horses are already this trained before we start. Then whats the use. I want a video of horses that are doing it for the first time!!. Show us real horses with problems!!!
@Langly Miles, I took myself (a green rider) and a very green, eight-year-old horse with major issues, all the way to a calm and polite horse using his methods...and that was only by reading his book. It was not an overnight process, for sure.
I met John in the80s, and went to a number of his clinics. He would take horses at any level and improve them. Usin his methods, I have been able to take ra ge horses from cant touch to can ride in one (really long) day, 12 hours. Same thingnextday in 8 hours. Next day, 6 hours. Working these methods daily I could have another person riding that horse in less than a week. Really.
John youre awesome! learned from you the last twenty years at least...thank you!
Wow- John Lyons is amazing= what amazing results-
best method..i have used this with great success on an unhandled 2yo gelding...
Yea, i have been training with my horse now in the pen and my familly have helped me much with it. What you said is exactaly what they said. Thank you =)
I once got first hand training from tJohn. He's the best.
Alex, my pleasure. I wish you good luck, and much fun with your horse. :-)
Thank you so much for this video. The video is perfect. I have a beautiful big power full young horse there need this training .
The person there have uploaded this video, is this the real Johl Lyons or are you just a very big fan ?
I like to watch Monty Roberts videos as well and his advice was to let the horse get acquainted with the pen for "days" if need be to get him comfortable with it before working him. As long as it takes, kind of advice. kind of like you'd do with a horse N trailer. just put the trailer in the field and leave him alone with it to get acquainted. Hope this helps.
Monty Roberts is a performer, hawking his wares.
Lyons is the real deal.
P.S- Rick Gore is great- I have learned sooo much from watching his videos- I knew nothing about horse care and found watching his videos to be most helpful while researching everything I could about horses before buying my first horse- IT is because of him that I ride bitless and have had some success with my filly- who was super sensitive and in dire need of proper sacking out- I learned about leadership and to ignore most of what other barn people would tell me to do- and do the research
Rick Gore is an ugly natured human being.
I agree Kara. He’s taught me so much, and I’m enjoying so much success with my horses. I’m deeply grateful for his common sense based, free, advice & insight, as well as the fun-loving relationship he has with his horses which he shamelessly allows us to see.
Wow. Just wow
youre the best! Rick Gore......ahhhhh...
Blimey!... I learnt something today.
so its simular to cutting?
Alex Diaz - Yep. And it is also the same for driving cattle or horse herds, and it is what some breeds of sheep dogs, like the border colie, do by instinct.
Loved this video! I haven't watched much John Lyons, but am going to start. He works a lot like we do (but better!). I posted a video comment of one of our yearling fillys being worked in the round pen...if it gets approved. Johnlyons2009, please approve my video response!
Thanks,
@jillr0 It's you're...
I thought you always wanted your horse to face you when turning, not turn it's butt towards you?
yes, you do want your horse to turn towards you. Turning its butt towards you is your horse disrespecting you.
No there’s two different types of turns, an inside turn and an outside turn. Just because he puts his butt towards you doesn’t necessarily mean he’s “disrespecting” you. It’s good to know how to get your horse to do both
@Wellington5392 wow YOURE hysterical lol I think its your ..... i could be mistaken.
What’s this pressure all about. It’s about driving and blocking that’s all.!
Not what I expected
Why? He never talkes about how good he is. And he is trying not to make good for people, but for horses, thats why he`s not so nice to people how they whant it to be.
I agree, horse training should be taught to people in a kind way, When ever I watch his videos I feel like i'm doing something wrong! Even though i'm not
Rick can be a man b****
Gosh, some of us have come a long way from 'roundpenning.'
Roundpenning a Stallion.
ruclips.net/video/JvQHZzys4BE/видео.html
@hheellllooiittssmmee I kind of view as just blunt, because to him, what he says is common sense. I just ignore how he says things, and pay attention to what he says.
Two words for you: Clinton Anderson. Not only is he excellent in horse training, but he makes it simple for people to understand!
yes, ive been watching his vids too, hes great!
why are you saying clintion Anderson is better than him on his channel that's so rude. I honestly hate it!!!!!
Guess your pretty stupid if you can't understand John Lyons!
You are not being clear to the horse.
Basically all he does is tell you you're an idiot who tortures your horse while he's the god of horse training and horses bow at the very sight of him. He's good with horses, but bad with people.