As an engineer, I built a bin, that matched the furniture, to hold all of those silly pillows. They've been in there ever since, never removed or used.
Well that comment threw me in a loop... Dunno if that was the original attempt, but I found myself thinking about it being a good analogy of expectations management. > If the size of the glass represents your expectations, and the volume of water you put in it is the result of a situation, you're more likely to have a full glass, or even some excess, if you choose the correct size to begin with.
@peterb2272 The way I heard it, the operator just had to use the glass he was provided with; a JFO (just f..k off) engineering team backed up by JFDI (just f..king do it) management.
Another engineer here. It's really hard to turn-off the problem-solving! My wife says that engineers think differently (one of her brothers is also an engineer); saying "That just means we engineers think correctly" was not the right answer. LOL
Aye, the real risk is when it knows what they want before they want it, and then solves the problem before they ask, to deliver seconds after they realize they need it.
Well, I gave a trainee a coding task. He gave it to ChatGPT. What the trainee received from ChatGPT didn't work. And the trainee was not able to debug it. A good tool only works correct in good hands. If the customer would have good hands, he wouldn't need me.
I married an engineer 32 years ago (FYI she is Lehigh ‘86 too, Don). We understand each other very well, but a two-engineer household means that our home has all the charm of an industrial production facility. And our kids have threatened a “no more home automation intervention.”
Home automation *shivers in agony* I am an engineer as well. I want a light switch that turns off and on when I flip it - not some WiFi Bluetooth sensor schedule nonsense. Let a switch be a switch!
Maybe I should have been an engineer. My idea of buying shampoo is one giant bottle of Mane and Tail (yep, originally made to use on horses). It lasts for a very long time.
@@joannleichliter4308 i bet you have a nice shiny coat, and it's logical, if it's important to you. do you think there's anything more important to a horse owner than their horse? eg, in new england dry cold winters, would you pick skin care cream w botanical blah blah blah or the udder balm that dairy farmers apply to the cows their family n community are counting on?
Another engineer here. I have always subscribed to the philosophy, "Who cares how it looks - does it work, is it reliable, is it simple, is it cost-effective, and, most importantly - DOES IT SOLVE THE PROBLEM?" It's a condition called PSD - Practical Solution Disorder. But, unlike most conditions, it leads to societal progress and a better life for all. Fortunately, there is no cure.
I am an engineer married to an engineer....in our house there are no excess pillows, or bed curtains, or shower squeegee, or unnecessary hair products. 😆
you've selfishly married when you could've intermarried with communications or some random social science degree holder and improved the greater population. there's no way just the two of you could have enough kids to justify this act … unless you're irish.
Engineer here. The shower squeegee is meant for wiping down the water from shower walls so at least most of it flows into the sewer. Not vaporize into the room air, which would increase humidity and increase moisture stress on the building structures. 🤓
We don't have a dust ruffle for the bed, nor do we have carpet. The result is that every so often, we will look under the bed and find a line of dust bunnies running exactly down the middle.
I'm an engineer, and every time I need to buy to a new bottle of shampoo, I discover the one I want has been off the market for about 10 years. Then I'm forced to choose a replacement among the myriad of products in that aisle of the store. I usually end up picking the one that has a bottle of similar shape and color to my old one lol.
Hmmm. For me, the smell would be the deciding factor, so I'd open each product and have a quick sniff ... until I was thrown out. The other alternative - when a product has only just disappeared from the shelves - is to go online and purchase 10 years' supply or as much as possible. I'm just reaching crisis point with my stockpile of Signal toothpaste (UK) ...
Does a software engineer count? Anyway, I solved the "which shampoo to use" question by just using a bar of soap for both body and head. Works fine - and means no hair products at all!
Engineer here. My wife bought me a Tshirt as a way to get a message through to me. The Tshirt says "I'm an engineer. To save time let's just assume that I'm never wrong" To which I said Thank you for finally recognizing it. That was the wrong statement.
My husband's favorite shirt says THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD 1) Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data It's sad how often people come up and ask what it means or why there's no number two. It's even sadder how many feel personally attacked by it.
As an Engineer I'm not opposed to adding attractive touches around the house, but I draw the line at unnecessary inconvenience. The dust ruffle, duvet cover, art, knick-knacks, are fine in moderation. But f*ck right off with those stupid mini-pillows. I'm NOT going to have to disassemble/reassemble my bed every damn day.
This... so much this. Engineering can be aesthetic too - and the best engineers manage to combine things wonderfully. When done to excess it's magnificent, for example the Crossness Pumping Station (sewage pumping station designed by the engineer Joseph Bazalgette)
As a software engineer I HAVE to parse what my wife says using boolean logic so to questions like "You don't like coleslaw, do you?" "Yes" is apparently not a satisfactory answer because I then find it on my plate. And then there are the double negatives which tend to short circuit my brain and leave me silently opening and closing my mouth like a goldfish.
One of my earliest memories as a child was my dad asking "you won't want any chips (fries) will you?", me replying "no" and then being upset because I didn't get any chips.
Retired civil engineer, my wife came onto the office one time to answer phones because we were short in the office. She later told me that she was a nervous wreck when she left because she had never seen that many people running around with clinched sphincters. We never really noticed, just another day.
@@bigkirbyhj666 That's the difference between engineers and philosophers, scientists, economists, artists, teachers, journalists, professors, politicians, etc., etc. When engineers make mistakes, people get hurts or die, almost nobody cares WHEN (not if) the others mess up.
Depending on where you live, if the shower doesn't dry fast enough you'll get hard water, calcium deposits, or mold. It's easier to squeegee & not let it build up, than to use a ton of elbow grease to get it off later.
@@Kenionatus it's more than just limestone. Also has soap scum, mold, and other junk which sodium hydroxide works well to remove. If you prefer acid, you can use CLR, but that doesn't work as well due to dilution.
As an engineer married for 28 years I absolutely hate being forced to listen to a problem where there are clear actions which may be taken to resolve and my wife absolutely doesn't want to hear them. It is almost like she relieves her stress by forcing others to suffer listenning to the problems she doesn't want solutions to... Women are kind of sadistic like that. The other engineering trait which makes my wife and kids insane is my lack of tolerance for extraneous BS in their explanations and insitance on clear answers to question. You come to me with an issue and there is no clear solution so the first step is to properly define the issue and contributing factors. That takes me asking CLEAR questions about specific factors. JUST ANSWER THE F'N QUESTION!!!! I alway hear "why do you insist on asking questions all the time?" to which my response is "Because you are not clearly defining the issue and contributing factors." Somehow it is my fault they both cannot logically construct the issue themselves or follow simple directions which allow me to do so.
Engineer here married long time. Had a chat with wife about this and she understands that any problem given to me must be solved unless I am specifically told not to solve it.
My wife used to complain that when she was stressed I would 'logic away' her feelings. I asked her if she liked being stressed - apparently the answer was YES.
@@deansmith4752 When women are complaining often times they just want someone sympathetic. Solving the problem is good. But give them the sympathy they need first.
@@IIVQmold and milder develop very quickly in areas that are constantly damp/humid. Unless your shower is strong enough to power wash all of the buildup every time you shower, I’d suggest you squeegee the shower. Good ventilation also works.
@@FelarofTheMearh I have the fortune to live in a building with strong forced ventilation, and on the 6th floor so no moisture from the ground seeping through.
"i got fat" "objectively or subjectively?" "what?" "one requires data analysis, the other one doesn't" "your face needs data analysis" "are you mad?" "why would I be mad" "because you look mad" "no, you are mad." "I am?" "ugh" this really happened
The hair products one really gets me. I ran out of shampoo once so I look over on the other side of the shower to see if she has any instead I found 7 different types of conditioners and not one shampoo!
Visiting my parents I've multiple times gone through my mom's box of hair products trying to find "shampoo for normal hair" but there's just a billion products for differently (purposely) abused hair.
Why would this be hard for engineers to understand? In a machine shop, you have all sorts of drill bits and machines. You have drill presses, drill mills, lathes, band saws, hand drills, dremels. You have files, sand paper, all sorts of nuts like lock nuts, wing nuts, heat set inserts. All of these tools have their purpose, and the more of them you have the more things you can make. Why would hair be any different?
My wife has a similar collection of pillows (and yes, I’m a retired engineer). She hates the similar pillows in hotels, says they are dirty and never washed, but to my knowledge has never washed the ones we have at home, and they just get tossed on the floor every night and put back on the bed in the morning. We have to have a cover on the mattress and pillows we sleep on for hygiene reasons, but these other pillows go from bed to carpeted floor and back every day, but somehow that’s OK?
My late father was an engineer. An aeronautical engineer who named me after him. I wasn’t fond of that. So I became a scientist. Piled higher and Deeper to boot. After a handful of years working as a scientist in close cooperation with engineers, I finally faced up to the fact they made more money than me. So I became an engineer.
When I attended Georgia Tech in the 1970s there was a small hand-typed note taped to the glass top of the information desk at the Student Union Center. It read as follows: ENGINEER: a person who learns less and less about more and more until he knows nothing about everything. SCIENTIST: a person who learns more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing.
Reminds me of a small joke from Space Odyssey 4 by Clark. It goes along like "Everyone is either a deist or a theist. A deist believes there can be no less than one god, a theist believes there can be no more than one god. A mathematician went insane attempting to measure the difference."
@@nickryan3417Honey, I've got H2O2, ammonia, and dilute nitric acid, but if you want the stronger stuff, it's gonna take me a few days to get it from Fisher. What? That's not the solution you were looking for? What do you mean you wish you had married the psychologist instead???
Engineer here. I explain to people the way I think is like this - my wife asks me to go to the store and get a gallon of milk. If they have eggs, get a dozen. I come home with 12 gallons of milk.
This is more like how programmers/computers think. Engineers are supposed to correctly interpret instructions, while computers blindly execute what the program says.
The "bed curtain" is called a dust ruffle. It's supposed to keep dust from gathering too quickly under the bed. It also hides the box spring and bed frame.
I'm married to a woman who sold steel for years and then switched to the buying side of things for ten years. We worked at the same steel structure manufacturing company, she as the purchasing manager and myself as the shipping manager. She only bought what our household needed and at the right price and I organized it into nice tidy areas, effectively and efficiently utilizing the space we were given when we bought our home.
As someone who didn't used to get it but now mostly does, allow me to explain! 1. Hair products: Testosterone makes you oilier than estrogen does; if she used your one product, she'd dry out her hair. (You're probably drying yours out too, but you keep it short so no particular length of hair has the chance to get too damaged before cutting.) And finding just the right hair care routine to keep long hair looking nice is actually a lot of trial and error! Sure, maybe you only need like, one shampoo (not always used), a conditioner, a leave-in conditioner, and a styling product, but on the way to finding the optimum combination you'll accumulate at least a few of each! And you're not going to just throw them out and *waste* them, are you??? 2. Feelings or solutions: Feelings do need to be processed, and in almost all cases, implementing the solution A. doesn't fix how things are sucky THIS time and B. is nontrivial and will take concerted effort that requires calm planning. If you ever got made fun of in school for social faux pases, being told "next time, don't do that!" didn't help you feel any better in the moment, did it? 2a: That said, communication is key! Both of you could probably do better here. 3. Shower squeegee: I dunno but it might be to prevent yucky soap scum buildup from reaching the point it has on my shower. This might be a good idea... 4. Bed curtain: I am guessing she finds it aesthetically more pleasing than seeing the stuff stored under the bed, but I don't know; this doesn't bother me. 5. Pillows: I have no idea, man. Maybe this is aesthetics too? I hope that helps! I used to laugh at all these jokes and now I understand, but I still laughed at the six giant bottles of anything. Yeah, that's the way to get stuff cheap! It's efficient!
2. Me listening to a solvable problem that I'm not allowed to solve, makes me also feel bad. Now we have two people feeling bad, not implementing a solution. When I feel bad, I return to logic as much as possible. The Brain processes the bad stuff anyway, it cannot not process. And most of the time you not only get told the yucky situation, but everything that led up to it, and the back story of every person involved, and their families. And of course there are 3 other stories that need to be told and all of them alongside. It's exhausting to listen to all of that and constantly reply with "Oh ... really ... wow ... unbelievable ... phew ... " instead of saying something useful. And it makes me actually develop bad feelings against these people, like the stupid spreadsheet-lady who deleted her spreadsheet again ... You feel bad? I can't make that go away, und you don't want to hear how to avoid that it will happen again. Do I care? sure, but I want to do something meaningfull and prevent the same thing to happen ever again. I don't see how talking helps to make anything better. 1. I also have 7 Shampoos, because I like to try new stuff and cost and quality will simply average out. Although if I find something I really like, I'd love to buy it in barrels. 3. Never used a shower squeegie. I have a curtain. 4. Never had a bed curtain. I actually prefer to see the dirt, so I know when to clean. 5. No extra Pillows.
1) Designing things that can actually be worked on 2) Making screws/fasteners easily accessible 3) Making things *less* complicated 4) Not "upgrading" things that have worked perfectly fine for a century 5) Why other engineers don't understand that you're smarter than they are 6) That non-engineers aren't always stupid 6A) Some non-engineers are more intelligent than a lot of engineers are 6B) Even some (gasp!) blue-collar workers are more intelligent than many engineers 7) That what they see as "logical" is far from it in the real world 8) Because it "works on paper" usually doesn't mean it will work in real life
As a retired engineer with 32 years industrial experience, I too have seen a lot of "book engineers" who were not mechanically inclined and hadn't a clue because they could not mentally visualize the internal workings of machinery. I saw one "engineer" ridiculously go around a pot hole with his car, rather than just straddling it.
The engineering reason to squeegee the shower is to remove the water from the walls obviously; but why? Because mold grows in the water. I not only squeegee my shower I have a dedicated towel to remove ALL the water from the walls. What does this nightly ritual gain me? No mold grows in my shower. And since no mold ever grows there’s no need to use harsh chemicals cleaning the shower once a month or once a week. I spot clean what little mold that gets away from me literally only once or twice a year... And what make me a authority on this subject? I’m a Union trained card carrying Journeyman Tile-setter with over 40 years of experience in the masonry veneers. The couple of minutes spent removing the water after showering will pay dividends in not having to regularly scour your shower...
An other reason to squeegee the shower is limescale / calcification if you're in an area with hard water. If the water is left to dry on the surface, it leaves streaks and over time build up of crud which is much harder to clean up (and protects other gunk). Squeegeeing limits this greatly, even more so if as you mention you also pat the walls dry with a towel afterwards.
I've never had a problem with mold on my tiles... but then I have 2 fans in the bathroom - both of which run during a bath or shower. One of the fans is in a heat lamp fixture. They do a great job, otherwise water would condense on the window every time I showered. The only place I get mold is in the toilet bowl.
I also dry my shower with a towel because I'm too lazy to go to the trouble of removing limescale every few weeks. But what annoys me every day is that it takes me longer to dry than to shower.
When a man approaches an engineer with a problem, he's looking for a solution. When a woman approaches an engineer with a problem, she's looking to vent.
Bed curtains that reach the floor would help to reduce the dust under the bed, especially if you're storing stuff there. Just pop the curtains in the washer once every while. // Depending on where you live, squee-geeing the shower helps in humid tropical countries where you want to reduce the water that remains after a humid shower. It makes the shower dry a lot quicker and keeps the corners (eg. silicon areas) free of slime mould-buildup since the corners also dry faster.
No engineer should be complaining about the squeegee in the shower. It is an effective tool for controlling mould growth in the shower, and is a solution to a very real problem
@@pancudowny No, if such an answer would exist, if would be passed down from father to son for generations! Men are from Mars, woman from Venus. You think it is a coincident that Musk/SpaceX want to visit Mars. Hell no! If we would visit Venus, it wouldn't make any sense to us men...
If you feel fat, first get on a scale, calculate your BMI and see if it falls in the range that could be considered to be "fat". If so, here are a few steps you can take...I see a object flying towards me, and the thrower leaves the room while slamming the door as loud as she can.
Hats off to this very necessary, albeit often mocked, segment of society. My dad was an engineer and regaled the family with accounts of his research and development group. They were a crazy bunch but did amazing work.
I am also a member of a problem-solving profession. In fact, clients come to me specifically to solve their problem. I do that all day, maybe 20 times or more, and then when I go home I'm supposed to just listen when my wife starts telling me about a problem. I told her I was going to get her a life-sized cut-out of myself. That went well.
Once upon a time my wife walked into my home office and talked to me for about five minutes. My chair faces away from the door, so I don't hear her come in. She DID see me walk in to the office after she had spent five minutes talking to the back of my empty chair.
LOL.. spot on. As an engineer myself, my wife drives me crazy sometimes with inefficient she does things... if there's a more complicated or less efficient way to do something she will find it.
The squeegee bit shows that engineers don't understand humidity and airflow. Which is obvious if you've ever lived in a house designed based on a computer model. The airflow is always messed up.
As an engineer married to a non-engineer, I actually have more hair care products than she does. My wife just has one bottle of combined shampoo/conditioner for her normal hair, but since I have oily hair and a serious case of eczema, I have scalp cleanser, medicated shampoo, Denorex (the 'tingle' helps me know if I actually got my scalp clean enough), and oily hair conditioner. Most of the bottles in the tub are still hers, though, she has seven or eight different kinds of body wash (I have one).
The slide that flashed on the screen for about 1 frame at the beginning was the old engineer joke, 'you can fit 63 Earths into Uranus, 64 if you relax. I was a field service engineer, I notice things real fast.
Ah yes field engineering. When I could speed read 500 pages of codeology to pass a 45 minute written exam while the weaker ones sweat and gave up and walked out. That was a satisfying job until all the hazardous variables ended my career. I find myself laughing at vision jokes since I nearly went blind in one eye after a very unqualified engineer nearly got our work crew electrocuted. The senior electrician sure thought it was funny we survived. It wasn't his first brush with over 30 amps but it was my first time getting pulled on a ground to neutral when the feed was off. Ah there I go ranting again. I guess I just need to relax hahaha... humor heals and you need it for stressful work.
My dad was an engineer married to my mom who was not organized. On one particular vacation my poor dad was packed, sitting in the car ready to go and honking in the driveway. My mom, sister and I finally got it together twenty minutes later. Five minutes down the road my mom wanted to go back home to add something to her suitcase. The next time we were down the road she suddenly realized she needed to go home once again to pack another item. After getting to our destination my mom discovered she forgot her pajamas. My dad let her wear his pajamas to bed. My parents were both only children and this made their marriage even more difficult. As a result, I am low maintenance because my parents were barely noticing me…
As a retired engineer, some 40 years after bathroom renovation, squeegeeing might had make sense. Lots of other things spouses do that makes no sense though. To be fair, not only spouses makes illogical decisions. Engineers too. Just check your toolbox. and compare to number of spouses shampoos.
Squeegeeing does make sense if you have really hard water. Because any water left to dry will leave proportionally more limescale that needs to be removed with chemicals later.
@@TheBrain2Khmm 10 minutes with chemicals a year, or 30s with a squeegee every time I shower. I don't know about you, but I shower more than 20 times a year
@@kapperbeastYT I can tell you, with the stupidly hard water we have, it's definitely not just 10 minutes after a year. And it will already look like shit after a month. And I have to then use strong chemicals to the point of them being pretty much a health hazard without respiratory PPE. Consumer-grade bathroom descaling sprays simply don't cut it. The only efficient way is to use appliance descaling liquid in a spray bottle which creates a ton of nasty aerosols. So go in, open window/switch on fan, spray everything, run out and come back half an hour later when the aerosols have dissipated to rinse.
@@saintsword23 🤣 Trust me, I don't care that much about how things look and I would call myself very pragmatic in terms of cleaning. Windows? Enough to clean them MAYBE once a year. A bit of limescale in the bathroom or kitchen? Not an issue. Toothpaste/spit sprinkles on the bathroom mirror? They can stay for weeks when I don't feel like cleaning. But I also don't want to live in a place that looks like it hasn't been cleaned in years. This is my home after all and I do get some enjoyment from things not being a complete mess. I've struggled a lot in the past trying to keep up with the bare minimum of cleaning. I've had one of my previous landlords needing to call a plumber to disassemble the toilet and soak it in industrial acid to remove the buildup of limescale/residue that we were unable to remove with regular cleaners when moving out. By now, I have come to the conclusion, that it's much easier for me to build habits around not letting things get messy in the first place rather than trying to keep up with some sort of irregular deep-cleaning schedule.
There was an article on automotive engineers in The New Yorker a few years back that contained this wonderful illustration of how an engineer's mind works: A pessimist says, "The glass is half empty." An optimist says, "The glass is half full." An engineer says, "The glass is twice as big as it needs to be." My son became a mechanical engineer about 13 years ago. I have really enjoyed watching how his way of thinking has evolved. I also heard, on NPR some years back, that a mechanical engineering degree is one of the few, perhaps the only, four year degree that will put you solidly in the middle class.
When the honeymoon is over more and more pillows appear on the bed, so when a guy has found a place for all 30ish pillows he's so exhausted he just wants to go to sleep.
Makes you nervous too. Ever heard "dont put that there!" My wife and I now sleep in separate bedrooms. I have two pillows on my bed. She has 7. My bed us made in less than a minute. Hers takes 3. I know better than to tell her how much time she's lost over the last year. 730 minutes is a long time. 😮😮 for you geeks that's 3 -1 = 2 x 365 = 730 min. Over 12 hours lost to pillows and comforter! 😂
@@kenjordan5750 If the food wasn't wasted, there wouldn't be much to rinse off. Take all you want, eat all you take or it will be there the next time you eat.
Well being a woman engineer in a past life, I have many of all these traits mentioned, practical and logical and fluff. Always had an artistic side but mostly tend to be practical. Not as practical as my network admin hubby, who doesn’t understand my obsession with buying and using the correct towels for each bathroom. That bit of artistic sense says colors must match.
I was going to post this to my Facebook page, but discretion got the best of me. My wife reads my FB page, and too damn hot to sleep outside! Great stuff!
Also a retired engineer: My one bottle is only about 4" tall. Other than that, he described my situation in every detail. The quantity of bottles, the pillows & squeegee were dead on.
The "bed curtain" is called a dust ruffle... and is supposedly meant to keep dust from gathering under the bed. To which I ask: Since we still need to dust under there, even with it there, what's the point of having it? Just buy a Roomba or a few vacuum cleaner extensions, and admit defeat!😕
In my mind, the purpose of the dust ruffle is so that I never _see_ all the dust that collects. Out of sight, out of mind. My wife was faced with the choice of cleaning under the bed herself, or removing the ruffle so I'd notice the dust, and decided to clean it herself. 👍
"I work all day as a problem solver and I come home and try to solve my wife's problems, but apparently that makes me an asshole." ...funniest joke I've heard this month, and it's the 26th.
Forty plus years as an engineer and 30 plus years married and my wife is always telling me that people (her and the kids) aren't engineering projects. Especially the kids. Yeah, they are.
Finally, there’s a natural home for engineers. Welcome to, brothers (from a retired engineer who’s glad to see more women in engineering; they may yet teach us some social skills). 😅
Engineer here. Had exactly the same problem when first married. Tried to solve my new wife's problems with logic. Big mistake! Learned pretty soon the best answer is "Yes Dear, I love you Dear." and a hug. 22 years ago!
The shower squeegee actually has a practical application. Some city's water has too much calcium or just general crap in it. So, you squeegee everything down so there's no build up (which is a real pain to clean otherwise) and helps prevent mildew and mold.
IMO a true engineer would spend hours learning about scalp, skin care and hair products so they can understand for once and for all exactly what they need and the reasoning behind it. At least that's what I did 😂 People often confuse "an engineer" with "a man" 🤷🏻♀️
Now that you mention it, surviving an electrical burn because of an unqualified engineers disregard for safety has put me in such a situation. I have gone from focusing on electrical applications to immune treatments of an electrical burn that hasn't healed in pfff over ten years now? Nearly lost my leg hahaha... There's humor in there somewhere...
Just put your bed on the floor. There's no need for bed frames or raising the bed off the floor unless you're elderly and can't stand on your own. It's all senseless luxury.
The hair product thing hit home for me. I have my head, so the 30 bottles of hair products in my house are just things in the way of my razor and the aspirin.
As a guy wo worked on cars and also rebuilt oil well equipment I thought engineers were the guys who looked at a perfectly simple reliable mechanical device and figured out how to make it overly complicated, with three times as many parts and four times the price.😊😅
About the wiping: water contains chalk and it is so much of an effort to remove it later, that it is easier to wipe all excess water off after showering instead of spending hours later to get it all off and not be very successful no matter how you do it. The rest I don't do, female engineer here. I don't understand the pillow thing either, in Europe we don't have the bed curtain anyways (it would be to hide anything that you store under the bed by the way) and I only have one product in the shower plus an additional spray one gliss thingy to make it easier to comb the long hair. I also don't do these trap question stuff as it is totally stupid to do it. I ask a question, I want an honest answer, even if I might not like it. What I don't understand is why men don't want women that act logically. Seems like they want some stuff in their lives they don't understand to make it more interesting, or whatever reason there is.
I am an engineer, my father was an engineer. All my childish questions were responded to by "you know the answer to that" followed by a circular series of questions that solved for the answer. He said that Socrates developed this tutoring mode. I an still very curious at 75 years of age. '
As an engineer who actually figured it out through trial and error, allow me to reveal this secret knowledge: When your wife doesn't want to accept your solution, it's because your solution isn't actually helping the problem that she has. What really happened was that you made an invalid assumption about the problem and started working on a solution, but your work was out of scope. Instead, you needed to have a stakeholder meeting where you solicit customer feedback so that her expectations are aligned with yours, and then you can proceed with work authorization. Don't neglect the value of planning! And the reason why you can't just take her words at apparent face value is because, like you, she is using a set of common shorthand, but one you've never been trained in. All her friends know it, which is why none of them have the same problem as you, but you lack the qualifications to understand it until you complete a training course. But the way to get proper training involves being able to actually communicate, so it's no surprise that it takes us a long time, if ever, to finally figure it out.
I’m a retired hvac contractor. The joke in our office was that of all our thousands of customers, only engineers found it necessary to tell us they were engineers. We were like… who the F cares unless your an HVAC engineer…go away. I worked for a world famous surgeon who had no desire to tell me what he did ( I didn’t ask). But he had the nicest property I’ve ever seen so I was curious. Only after I Googles his name did I find out his profession. Sorry engineers.
Well, they are different. The kind you mean are literally “engine” eers working on engines. Locomotive drivers work on engines, also, hence why they are called that here in the US anyway. They work on engines. But the designers are actually “ingenu” neers….comes from ingenuity root. Sometimes we tell people we’re working with because we don’t want them thinking they can pull a fast one or that we are otherwise stupid. Has happened to me, workmen condescending or perhaps trying to convince me I need to spend more money. Being a woman it may be moreso because I’m a woman.
I’ll have to ask my HVAC Engineer (Boeing) son in law if he shares that when someone works on his home system. You’d think you could tell just by looking at him.
Lol I am a mechanical engineer but practice civil. I did some hvac on the side. I had a problem with a condenser pan leaking. Call hvac company and had to pay their stupid 69 dollar fee to tell me the same thing. Ok... then the ahole company tells me it would be 800 for then to fix. I tell the tech to get me his manager. I tell them I am an hvac engineer. That I know it is a 1 hour job and the pan would cost them less than 200 easily. They tries to spin a bs that they have to make them in-house custom. I said fine, I will give you 500 and I know you are overcharging me. They said no. I went and bought the pan at home depot for 159 and did it myself. F anyone trying to gouge me. I always tell any contractor or solar sales people, I am an engineer, let me do the math.... end of sale lol. Specially when they try to appeal to my emotions lol. Like if I had any...
@@donquique1 We were quoted $5,000 to fix our old Lexus, the radio had stopped working and several other little things. Son in law told my husband which part to order and walked him through taking the dashboard (damaged by Lexus of Eugene) off. He had it fixed in fifteen minutes. $5,000 my ass!
I asked the car salesman if the car I was considering buying had a free running or an interference engine. He just looked at me and said, "You're an Engineer, aren't you?" Somerimes it's so painfully obvious, you don't have to come right out and say it.
As a field service engineer for many years (no I didn’t service fields), I went onto many company sites. The first point of contact was often the CEO or site manager. They always had a solution to fixing their problem, of course I had to listen as they indirectly paid my salary. 99% of them didn’t know one end of a screw driver from the other! I’d go onto the factory production floor and see the guy operating the particular sick machine. He was well aware of what was wrong with his machine as he used it every day. More often than not his knowledge was very helpful in solving the problem.
Squeegeeing the shower is meant to reduce the chances of mildew in the shower. If you live somewhere with high humidity or have bad ventilation in the bathroom leaving water on the tiles allows more mildew to grow. Its something that makes perfect sense if you think about it, and especially if you're the one cleaning the shower out.
You know what else doesn't make sense to engineers? Adapting. I used to be in industrial sales. One day I received a PO from a power plant. They wanted Red Head Trubolt+ wedge anchors. I immediately called them and told them that there was a recall on those and they were unavailable and provided them an option for an alternate from another brand that had the same specs. They refused and said that's what the engineers spec'd for the project and they could not use anything else, it had to be those specific anchors. I told them that there was a world-wide recall and they were not available. Every one was taken off the market and destroyed. They kept trying to get me to get them. This was 2018. To my knowledge, those anchors are still no longer on the market at all. ITW just said, nope, we're not making that mistake again. The inability to do anything other than what the sheet of paper says is the engineer's biggest downfall.
After watching this clip I suddenly realized that I must be an engineer. I also always wondered why my wife needed so many different things that all seem to do the same thing...
I would like to see an engineer use and do regular maintenance on what they design. Even better, try to do simple repairs on their stuff. Like changing a water pump on a typical car. Or a starter, etc. Bet them a $2 bill that they can't do any of those things with a basic tool set.
Computer engineer here. Ok so, I think every house needs a router, firewall, 2 switches, 2 wireless bridges, 5 desktops, 3 laptops, a business class server with 8 hard drives and an enterprise class server with 21 hard drives. All the blinky lights are awesome. Apparently my wife does not.
I'm not an engineer, and am actually more of an artistic person, and the lots of extra pillows thing never made sense to me. Maybe it's more a man vs woman thing.
Throw pillows (and curtains under the bed though that's also functional in that it hides dust) are decoration, so it just depends on your likes and sensibilities. Though oftentimes they're added as default / habit (because one of the spouses comes from a throw pillow home and thought it was the thing you did) and no one actually likes them, in which case the issue is just a lack of communication.
@@BlairdBlaird A fair question... and I asked this of my mom, when she insisted on me--a single, masculine hetero male--having a dust ruffle on MY bed: Who the hell are we gonna be showing our private areas to that we need play "dress-up" for?😕
Interesting. I was raised in a household that barely has any pillows or several shampoos at once. I'm guessing it's more of developed country vs. 3rd country thing.
Also an Engineer, but retired, 80 years of age, Full head of hair excepting the crown area (30mm circle). Shampoo every day when I shower. Statisical sample of two here!!! - conclusion: If you don't shampoo regularly you will go bald? Squeegee the glass each time - not that I think it's necessary but a happy partner means a happy life.
As an engineer, I built a bin, that matched the furniture, to hold all of those silly pillows. They've been in there ever since, never removed or used.
sounds like an engineering problem to me
make a tiny pillow fort
Cool story. Kindergarten story time
SO, what kind of features could we add into this version 1.0?
@@DjKorppiCompression straps to cram more in, or into a smaller space.
Philosopher: "Is the glass half full or half empty?"
Engineer: "Who spec'd the wrong size glass?"
Software Engineer: Yes
it's not wrong spec, it's for future capacity ramp up. engineer out.
Well that comment threw me in a loop...
Dunno if that was the original attempt, but I found myself thinking about it being a good analogy of expectations management.
> If the size of the glass represents your expectations, and the volume of water you put in it is the result of a situation, you're more likely to have a full glass, or even some excess, if you choose the correct size to begin with.
Who cares? When it’s empty just refill the glass from the (wine) bottle!
@peterb2272 The way I heard it, the operator just had to use the glass he was provided with; a JFO (just f..k off) engineering team backed up by JFDI (just f..king do it) management.
Another engineer here. It's really hard to turn-off the problem-solving! My wife says that engineers think differently (one of her brothers is also an engineer); saying "That just means we engineers think correctly" was not the right answer. LOL
oh no😂
I recommend watching the short video "It's not about the nail."
It was the right answer. Your wife just thinks wrong.
… but it WAS the correct answer lol
Nah, this isn't an engineer vs non engineer thing. This is a man vs woman thing. Logic vs illogic
"AI will replace you"
"How does AI work?"
"First, the customer tells it what they want..."
"I think we're good"
If the customer would know what they want, they wouldn't need us :)
Aye, the real risk is when it knows what they want before they want it, and then solves the problem before they ask, to deliver seconds after they realize they need it.
@@michaelmartin9022
"AI will replace you"
"How does it work?"
"First, AI tells the customer what they want......"
"Ok, bye"
"Had I asked my customers what they want, they'd have said, 'faster horses'." -- Henry Ford
Well, I gave a trainee a coding task.
He gave it to ChatGPT.
What the trainee received from ChatGPT didn't work.
And the trainee was not able to debug it.
A good tool only works correct in good hands.
If the customer would have good hands, he wouldn't need me.
I married an engineer 32 years ago (FYI she is Lehigh ‘86 too, Don). We understand each other very well, but a two-engineer household means that our home has all the charm of an industrial production facility. And our kids have threatened a “no more home automation intervention.”
With two engineers in the household, it won't be long until it looks like the one from Wallace and Gromit.
Interventions could very easily be automated.
Home automation *shivers in agony*
I am an engineer as well. I want a light switch that turns off and on when I flip it - not some WiFi Bluetooth sensor schedule nonsense. Let a switch be a switch!
@@nvirevolution2235 New fancy features like that will only cost you $9.99 a month and require a service contract.
I agree. Engineer here as well.
@@nvirevolution2235Let a switch be a switch that I CONTROL. 🙂
My wife and daughter went to CVS and asked me if I needed anything. I said, yes, I need shampoo. The asked what kind, and I replied, “Extra large.” 😂
the judges would have also accepted "on sale" for an answer.
@@jaewok5G 😂
Maybe I should have been an engineer. My idea of buying shampoo is one giant bottle of Mane and Tail (yep, originally made to use on horses). It lasts for a very long time.
@@joannleichliter4308 i bet you have a nice shiny coat, and it's logical, if it's important to you. do you think there's anything more important to a horse owner than their horse? eg, in new england dry cold winters, would you pick skin care cream w botanical blah blah blah or the udder balm that dairy farmers apply to the cows their family n community are counting on?
@@jaewok5G Well, I was a horse owner for many years, so...whatever
Another engineer here. I have always subscribed to the philosophy, "Who cares how it looks - does it work, is it reliable, is it simple, is it cost-effective, and, most importantly - DOES IT SOLVE THE PROBLEM?" It's a condition called PSD - Practical Solution Disorder. But, unlike most conditions, it leads to societal progress and a better life for all. Fortunately, there is no cure.
This never works with Wives
@@scottstewart9154 True. The only practical solution is divorce. An even better solution is not to get married in the first place.
@@scottstewart9154 It does with submissive wives.
Like ADHD, there's a VERY good reason it's not called a disability.
Most importantly, when it breaks is there enough room for the mechanic to repair it!
I am an engineer married to an engineer....in our house there are no excess pillows, or bed curtains, or shower squeegee, or unnecessary hair products. 😆
you've selfishly married when you could've intermarried with communications or some random social science degree holder and improved the greater population. there's no way just the two of you could have enough kids to justify this act … unless you're irish.
Same here!
Engineer here.
The shower squeegee is meant for wiping down the water from shower walls so at least most of it flows into the sewer. Not vaporize into the room air, which would increase humidity and increase moisture stress on the building structures.
🤓
Aby flowers?
We don't have a dust ruffle for the bed, nor do we have carpet. The result is that every so often, we will look under the bed and find a line of dust bunnies running exactly down the middle.
I'm an engineer, and every time I need to buy to a new bottle of shampoo, I discover the one I want has been off the market for about 10 years. Then I'm forced to choose a replacement among the myriad of products in that aisle of the store. I usually end up picking the one that has a bottle of similar shape and color to my old one lol.
Hmmm. For me, the smell would be the deciding factor, so I'd open each product and have a quick sniff ... until I was thrown out. The other alternative - when a product has only just disappeared from the shelves - is to go online and purchase 10 years' supply or as much as possible. I'm just reaching crisis point with my stockpile of Signal toothpaste (UK) ...
I choose the one that stinks the least.
@@marekstanek112 Not a bad method, if you're able to get a smell (The bottle might have a seal under the cap that needs to be removed).
Try using a bar of soap. It does everything you need it to do.
Does a software engineer count? Anyway, I solved the "which shampoo to use" question by just using a bar of soap for both body and head. Works fine - and means no hair products at all!
The optimist says the glass is half full. The pessimist says the glass is half empty. The engineer says the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
Included safety for the case of a failure (by the bottle handler) 😉
😂😂😂😂😂😂
My dad would have called it predictive redundancy.
Or is there half as much water as there needs to be?
@@blackwing1362 The Russian says, "Why is there water in my wodka glass?"
P.E. here.
An *_extroverted_* engineer, when speaking with you, looks at your shoes instead of his own.
I enjoy your standup because its like you have discovered a whole Narnia landscape of funny stuff that no comedian has ever touched.
too many pillows and hair products, truly the least mined comedy material
Scott Adams comes close.
@@silverhammer7779 Obligatory mention of XKCD
And there really is an XKCD for everything.
@@plwadodveeefdv The pillow thing is right up there with the flawed "mattress tag" jokes.
Engineer here.
My wife bought me a Tshirt as a way to get a message through to me.
The Tshirt says
"I'm an engineer. To save time let's just assume that I'm never wrong"
To which I said
Thank you for finally recognizing it.
That was the wrong statement.
My husband's favorite shirt says
THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD
1) Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
It's sad how often people come up and ask what it means or why there's no number two. It's even sadder how many feel personally attacked by it.
@@realjettlagWhere’d he get it? I need one in my life.
@@ClockworkBees+1, i need it
As an Engineer I'm not opposed to adding attractive touches around the house, but I draw the line at unnecessary inconvenience. The dust ruffle, duvet cover, art, knick-knacks, are fine in moderation.
But f*ck right off with those stupid mini-pillows. I'm NOT going to have to disassemble/reassemble my bed every damn day.
This... so much this. Engineering can be aesthetic too - and the best engineers manage to combine things wonderfully. When done to excess it's magnificent, for example the Crossness Pumping Station (sewage pumping station designed by the engineer Joseph Bazalgette)
Jesus you sound just like my son. And yes he is an engineer.
I solved the problem of little pillows by rationalizing that the bed doesn't really need to be made in the first place....
As a software engineer I HAVE to parse what my wife says using boolean logic so to questions like "You don't like coleslaw, do you?" "Yes" is apparently not a satisfactory answer because I then find it on my plate. And then there are the double negatives which tend to short circuit my brain and leave me silently opening and closing my mouth like a goldfish.
double negatives be like "!false"
You can't have too much water in a nuclear reactor. Too much or too little?
One of my earliest memories as a child was my dad asking "you won't want any chips (fries) will you?", me replying "no" and then being upset because I didn't get any chips.
The trick is never give boolean answers, always return a comprehensive f-string that's been designed for non-technical users.
You could try speaking in full sentences lmfao
Retired civil engineer, my wife came onto the office one time to answer phones because we were short in the office. She later told me that she was a nervous wreck when she left because she had never seen that many people running around with clinched sphincters. We never really noticed, just another day.
Excuse me, but why do civil engineers run around with clinched sphincters?
@@magnetospin Oh no, non-engineers can see this?
@@magnetospin because they aren't allowed to fuck up or someone may die.
@@bigkirbyhj666 That's the difference between engineers and philosophers, scientists, economists, artists, teachers, journalists, professors, politicians, etc., etc.
When engineers make mistakes, people get hurts or die, almost nobody cares WHEN (not if) the others mess up.
So it was not a diarrhea issue or lack of toilet paper?
Depending on where you live, if the shower doesn't dry fast enough you'll get hard water, calcium deposits, or mold. It's easier to squeegee & not let it build up, than to use a ton of elbow grease to get it off later.
Sodium hydroxide takes them off easy without much manual effort. Better time utilization than squeegee after each shower.
@@yootoobvyooerHuh, that's interesting. Using a base to remove what's to my knowledge calcium carbonate aka limestone.
Don't understand why you would need to get it off later?
@@Kenionatus it's more than just limestone. Also has soap scum, mold, and other junk which sodium hydroxide works well to remove. If you prefer acid, you can use CLR, but that doesn't work as well due to dilution.
Everyone but who commented on this comment is most likely a engineer...
As an engineer married for 28 years I absolutely hate being forced to listen to a problem where there are clear actions which may be taken to resolve and my wife absolutely doesn't want to hear them. It is almost like she relieves her stress by forcing others to suffer listenning to the problems she doesn't want solutions to... Women are kind of sadistic like that.
The other engineering trait which makes my wife and kids insane is my lack of tolerance for extraneous BS in their explanations and insitance on clear answers to question. You come to me with an issue and there is no clear solution so the first step is to properly define the issue and contributing factors. That takes me asking CLEAR questions about specific factors. JUST ANSWER THE F'N QUESTION!!!! I alway hear "why do you insist on asking questions all the time?" to which my response is "Because you are not clearly defining the issue and contributing factors." Somehow it is my fault they both cannot logically construct the issue themselves or follow simple directions which allow me to do so.
That's me too.
Engineer here married long time. Had a chat with wife about this and she understands that any problem given to me must be solved unless I am specifically told not to solve it.
My wife used to complain that when she was stressed I would 'logic away' her feelings. I asked her if she liked being stressed - apparently the answer was YES.
I am not married yet but I can see that definitely happening to me as well.
@@deansmith4752 When women are complaining often times they just want someone sympathetic.
Solving the problem is good. But give them the sympathy they need first.
"Why must I squeegee the shower?" if you don't know, then you're not the one cleaning it.
Why do you need to clean a shower? Don't you just hose it down every time you shower? 😂
@@IIVQmold and milder develop very quickly in areas that are constantly damp/humid. Unless your shower is strong enough to power wash all of the buildup every time you shower, I’d suggest you squeegee the shower. Good ventilation also works.
@@FelarofTheMearh I have the fortune to live in a building with strong forced ventilation, and on the 6th floor so no moisture from the ground seeping through.
There is also limescale
I have a technical solution for that. The art of not caring.
"i got fat"
"objectively or subjectively?"
"what?"
"one requires data analysis, the other one doesn't"
"your face needs data analysis"
"are you mad?"
"why would I be mad"
"because you look mad"
"no, you are mad."
"I am?"
"ugh"
this really happened
There are three problems in this interaction. Two are people, one is the need for a well-spec'd classification algorithm
The hair products one really gets me. I ran out of shampoo once so I look over on the other side of the shower to see if she has any instead I found 7 different types of conditioners and not one shampoo!
If she wasn’t using your shampoo, you wouldn’t have run out.
I used to rent out a few rooms in my house to college students. There is actually a name for that pile of different shampoos, a shampoo garden.
Visiting my parents I've multiple times gone through my mom's box of hair products trying to find "shampoo for normal hair" but there's just a billion products for differently (purposely) abused hair.
Ah, see that's why you buy the six-pack.
Why would this be hard for engineers to understand? In a machine shop, you have all sorts of drill bits and machines. You have drill presses, drill mills, lathes, band saws, hand drills, dremels. You have files, sand paper, all sorts of nuts like lock nuts, wing nuts, heat set inserts. All of these tools have their purpose, and the more of them you have the more things you can make. Why would hair be any different?
My wife has a similar collection of pillows (and yes, I’m a retired engineer). She hates the similar pillows in hotels, says they are dirty and never washed, but to my knowledge has never washed the ones we have at home, and they just get tossed on the floor every night and put back on the bed in the morning. We have to have a cover on the mattress and pillows we sleep on for hygiene reasons, but these other pillows go from bed to carpeted floor and back every day, but somehow that’s OK?
"but somehow that’s OK?" You've got your (normal) logic, and she's got hers.
Of course its ok, "It's our dirt"....
@@mrbrown6421 This.
Don't question it if you want to sleep in the bed. Some things we just have to accept.
I often make the same mistake you're making...trying to use logic where logic doesn't work.
My late father was an engineer. An aeronautical engineer who named me after him. I wasn’t fond of that. So I became a scientist. Piled higher and Deeper to boot.
After a handful of years working as a scientist in close cooperation with engineers, I finally faced up to the fact they made more money than me. So I became an engineer.
TRUTH
When I attended Georgia Tech in the 1970s there was a small hand-typed note taped to the glass top of the information desk at the Student Union Center. It read as follows:
ENGINEER: a person who learns less and less about more and more until he knows nothing about everything.
SCIENTIST: a person who learns more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing.
Reminds me of a small joke from Space Odyssey 4 by Clark. It goes along like "Everyone is either a deist or a theist. A deist believes there can be no less than one god, a theist believes there can be no more than one god. A mathematician went insane attempting to measure the difference."
@@TiroDvD If the mathematician had been an atheist, he could have factored in zero.
My engineering approach to my wife's problems: a solution is empathy, empathy is not a solution.
That's an *entirely* different statement when one is talking to chemical engineers or chemists...
@@nickryan3417Honey, I've got H2O2, ammonia, and dilute nitric acid, but if you want the stronger stuff, it's gonna take me a few days to get it from Fisher. What? That's not the solution you were looking for? What do you mean you wish you had married the psychologist instead???
Engineer here. I explain to people the way I think is like this - my wife asks me to go to the store and get a gallon of milk. If they have eggs, get a dozen. I come home with 12 gallons of milk.
This is more like how programmers/computers think. Engineers are supposed to correctly interpret instructions, while computers blindly execute what the program says.
Yes, clear subject references are important.
I have diagnosed myself with the condition of being an engineer based on this video
There's nothing more empathetic than wanting/trying to solve someone elses problem
Like your use of punctuation instead of a word.
Ah true - but the current problem is that they have feelings they need to get out.
Whatever happened before those feelings is history.
The "bed curtain" is called a dust ruffle. It's supposed to keep dust from gathering too quickly under the bed. It also hides the box spring and bed frame.
It's called a "valance" or "bed skirt".
@@HamishGarlandalso, dust ruffle.
"I feel fat."
"Have you tried farting?"
Dad was an engineer, and Mom was an artist; for a while I thought that this was an old clip of Dad!
I'm married to a woman who sold steel for years and then switched to the buying side of things for ten years. We worked at the same steel structure manufacturing company, she as the purchasing manager and myself as the shipping manager.
She only bought what our household needed and at the right price and I organized it into nice tidy areas, effectively and efficiently utilizing the space we were given when we bought our home.
Truly a blessed union.
As someone who didn't used to get it but now mostly does, allow me to explain!
1. Hair products: Testosterone makes you oilier than estrogen does; if she used your one product, she'd dry out her hair. (You're probably drying yours out too, but you keep it short so no particular length of hair has the chance to get too damaged before cutting.) And finding just the right hair care routine to keep long hair looking nice is actually a lot of trial and error! Sure, maybe you only need like, one shampoo (not always used), a conditioner, a leave-in conditioner, and a styling product, but on the way to finding the optimum combination you'll accumulate at least a few of each! And you're not going to just throw them out and *waste* them, are you???
2. Feelings or solutions: Feelings do need to be processed, and in almost all cases, implementing the solution A. doesn't fix how things are sucky THIS time and B. is nontrivial and will take concerted effort that requires calm planning. If you ever got made fun of in school for social faux pases, being told "next time, don't do that!" didn't help you feel any better in the moment, did it?
2a: That said, communication is key! Both of you could probably do better here.
3. Shower squeegee: I dunno but it might be to prevent yucky soap scum buildup from reaching the point it has on my shower. This might be a good idea...
4. Bed curtain: I am guessing she finds it aesthetically more pleasing than seeing the stuff stored under the bed, but I don't know; this doesn't bother me.
5. Pillows: I have no idea, man. Maybe this is aesthetics too?
I hope that helps!
I used to laugh at all these jokes and now I understand, but I still laughed at the six giant bottles of anything. Yeah, that's the way to get stuff cheap! It's efficient!
2. Me listening to a solvable problem that I'm not allowed to solve, makes me also feel bad. Now we have two people feeling bad, not implementing a solution. When I feel bad, I return to logic as much as possible. The Brain processes the bad stuff anyway, it cannot not process.
And most of the time you not only get told the yucky situation, but everything that led up to it, and the back story of every person involved, and their families. And of course there are 3 other stories that need to be told and all of them alongside.
It's exhausting to listen to all of that and constantly reply with "Oh ... really ... wow ... unbelievable ... phew ... " instead of saying something useful.
And it makes me actually develop bad feelings against these people, like the stupid spreadsheet-lady who deleted her spreadsheet again ...
You feel bad? I can't make that go away, und you don't want to hear how to avoid that it will happen again. Do I care? sure, but I want to do something meaningfull and prevent the same thing to happen ever again. I don't see how talking helps to make anything better.
1. I also have 7 Shampoos, because I like to try new stuff and cost and quality will simply average out. Although if I find something I really like, I'd love to buy it in barrels.
3. Never used a shower squeegie. I have a curtain.
4. Never had a bed curtain. I actually prefer to see the dirt, so I know when to clean.
5. No extra Pillows.
I grew my hair down to my waist and boy oh boy did I learn why girls have so many hair care products.
1) Designing things that can actually be worked on
2) Making screws/fasteners easily accessible
3) Making things *less* complicated
4) Not "upgrading" things that have worked perfectly fine for a century
5) Why other engineers don't understand that you're smarter than they are
6) That non-engineers aren't always stupid
6A) Some non-engineers are more intelligent than a lot of engineers are
6B) Even some (gasp!) blue-collar workers are more intelligent than many engineers
7) That what they see as "logical" is far from it in the real world
8) Because it "works on paper" usually doesn't mean it will work in real life
As a mechanic for 26 yrs and counting. I believe there are a lot of things engineers don't understand!
As an engineer and shade tree mechanic I agree and shake my head at the things I encounter. Not how I would have done it.
As a retired engineer with 32 years industrial experience, I too have seen a lot of "book engineers" who were not mechanically inclined and hadn't a clue because they could not mentally visualize the internal workings of machinery. I saw one "engineer" ridiculously go around a pot hole with his car, rather than just straddling it.
The engineering reason to squeegee the shower is to remove the water from the walls obviously; but why? Because mold grows in the water. I not only squeegee my shower I have a dedicated towel to remove ALL the water from the walls. What does this nightly ritual gain me? No mold grows in my shower. And since no mold ever grows there’s no need to use harsh chemicals cleaning the shower once a month or once a week. I spot clean what little mold that gets away from me literally only once or twice a year...
And what make me a authority on this subject? I’m a Union trained card carrying Journeyman Tile-setter with over 40 years of experience in the masonry veneers. The couple of minutes spent removing the water after showering will pay dividends in not having to regularly scour your shower...
An other reason to squeegee the shower is limescale / calcification if you're in an area with hard water. If the water is left to dry on the surface, it leaves streaks and over time build up of crud which is much harder to clean up (and protects other gunk). Squeegeeing limits this greatly, even more so if as you mention you also pat the walls dry with a towel afterwards.
I've never had a problem with mold on my tiles... but then I have 2 fans in the bathroom - both of which run during a bath or shower. One of the fans is in a heat lamp fixture. They do a great job, otherwise water would condense on the window every time I showered. The only place I get mold is in the toilet bowl.
I also dry my shower with a towel because I'm too lazy to go to the trouble of removing limescale every few weeks. But what annoys me every day is that it takes me longer to dry than to shower.
yeah, i'm an unmarried engineer and i squeegee religiously; it just makes sense. excess water on the glass/tile is like technical debt 😅
@@pklausspk I just use a kitchen sponge. It doesn't get it as dry as a towel would, but close enough and it's a lot faster.
0:39 Makes perfect sense to me, a computer programmer: (1) keeps out dust, and (2) hides junk from view.
0:52 Hard water deposits, and soap scum.
Yeah, it just turns the bed into an extra bit of storage space. Bonus points if there are actual drawers under there.
When a man approaches an engineer with a problem, he's looking for a solution. When a woman approaches an engineer with a problem, she's looking to vent.
Remember this!! Or else!!😂
If a woman approaches an engineer with an HVAC problem she might be looking for a vent!
Or a meal ticket.
Bed curtains that reach the floor would help to reduce the dust under the bed, especially if you're storing stuff there. Just pop the curtains in the washer once every while. // Depending on where you live, squee-geeing the shower helps in humid tropical countries where you want to reduce the water that remains after a humid shower. It makes the shower dry a lot quicker and keeps the corners (eg. silicon areas) free of slime mould-buildup since the corners also dry faster.
2:00 “I got it in Costco in 1993…” 😂😂😂
No engineer should be complaining about the squeegee in the shower. It is an effective tool for controlling mould growth in the shower, and is a solution to a very real problem
Even better with a window vac to actually remove the water. (An engineer)
Reduces water spots if you have hard water
I never have mold. I have a vent window.
@@solarsynapse It takes more than a vent window if you live in a humid climate
Actually this is correct... Faster easier and a lower costs in maintenance time.
- I feel fat
- how much you feel you got?
Oh, is anything a husband says in frankness--and honesty--REALLY ever "the right answer"?
@@pancudowny No, if such an answer would exist, if would be passed down from father to son for generations! Men are from Mars, woman from Venus. You think it is a coincident that Musk/SpaceX want to visit Mars. Hell no! If we would visit Venus, it wouldn't make any sense to us men...
If you feel fat, first get on a scale, calculate your BMI and see if it falls in the range that could be considered to be "fat". If so, here are a few steps you can take...I see a object flying towards me, and the thrower leaves the room while slamming the door as loud as she can.
Hats off to this very necessary, albeit often mocked, segment of society. My dad was an engineer and regaled the family with accounts of his research and development group. They were a crazy bunch but did amazing work.
How do you know if somebody is an engineer?
Don’t worry they will tell you.🎉😂
yes, we will.
Or a Texan
Or a Cherokee
Or someone from Chicago
I am also a member of a problem-solving profession. In fact, clients come to me specifically to solve their problem. I do that all day, maybe 20 times or more, and then when I go home I'm supposed to just listen when my wife starts telling me about a problem. I told her I was going to get her a life-sized cut-out of myself. That went well.
Once upon a time my wife walked into my home office and talked to me for about five minutes. My chair faces away from the door, so I don't hear her come in. She DID see me walk in to the office after she had spent five minutes talking to the back of my empty chair.
@@senseisecurityschool9337And I'm sure that, to her, was all your fault.
LOL.. spot on. As an engineer myself, my wife drives me crazy sometimes with inefficient she does things... if there's a more complicated or less efficient way to do something she will find it.
LMAO! THANK YOU! I have been stuck in bed, sick with some ungodly virus, fever over 104°. This really helped my morning. 💛
The squeegee bit shows that engineers don't understand humidity and airflow. Which is obvious if you've ever lived in a house designed based on a computer model. The airflow is always messed up.
As an engineer married to a non-engineer, I actually have more hair care products than she does. My wife just has one bottle of combined shampoo/conditioner for her normal hair, but since I have oily hair and a serious case of eczema, I have scalp cleanser, medicated shampoo, Denorex (the 'tingle' helps me know if I actually got my scalp clean enough), and oily hair conditioner. Most of the bottles in the tub are still hers, though, she has seven or eight different kinds of body wash (I have one).
And i've had the same 12 pair of socks for over 15 years.
How do they not get holes 😂
The slide that flashed on the screen for about 1 frame at the beginning was the old engineer joke, 'you can fit 63 Earths into Uranus, 64 if you relax. I was a field service engineer, I notice things real fast.
Ah yes field engineering. When I could speed read 500 pages of codeology to pass a 45 minute written exam while the weaker ones sweat and gave up and walked out. That was a satisfying job until all the hazardous variables ended my career. I find myself laughing at vision jokes since I nearly went blind in one eye after a very unqualified engineer nearly got our work crew electrocuted. The senior electrician sure thought it was funny we survived. It wasn't his first brush with over 30 amps but it was my first time getting pulled on a ground to neutral when the feed was off. Ah there I go ranting again. I guess I just need to relax hahaha... humor heals and you need it for stressful work.
My dad was an engineer married to my mom who was not organized. On one particular vacation my poor dad was packed, sitting in the car ready to go and honking in the driveway. My mom, sister and I finally got it together twenty minutes later. Five minutes down the road my mom wanted to go back home to add something to her suitcase. The next time we were down the road she suddenly realized she needed to go home once again to pack another item. After getting to our destination my mom discovered she forgot her pajamas. My dad let her wear his pajamas to bed. My parents were both only children and this made their marriage even more difficult. As a result, I am low maintenance because my parents were barely noticing me…
Not organized or passive aggressive?
@@653j521 Not organized and slightly selfish
Engineer: Someone who can use calculus to find the area under a curve yet cannot use basic math to balance a checkbook.
As a retired engineer, some 40 years after bathroom renovation, squeegeeing might had make sense. Lots of other things spouses do that makes no sense though.
To be fair, not only spouses makes illogical decisions. Engineers too. Just check your toolbox. and compare to number of spouses shampoos.
Squeegeeing does make sense if you have really hard water. Because any water left to dry will leave proportionally more limescale that needs to be removed with chemicals later.
@@TheBrain2Khmm 10 minutes with chemicals a year, or 30s with a squeegee every time I shower. I don't know about you, but I shower more than 20 times a year
@@kapperbeastYT I can tell you, with the stupidly hard water we have, it's definitely not just 10 minutes after a year. And it will already look like shit after a month.
And I have to then use strong chemicals to the point of them being pretty much a health hazard without respiratory PPE. Consumer-grade bathroom descaling sprays simply don't cut it. The only efficient way is to use appliance descaling liquid in a spray bottle which creates a ton of nasty aerosols. So go in, open window/switch on fan, spray everything, run out and come back half an hour later when the aerosols have dissipated to rinse.
@@TheBrain2K "And it will already look like shit after a month."
@@saintsword23 🤣 Trust me, I don't care that much about how things look and I would call myself very pragmatic in terms of cleaning.
Windows? Enough to clean them MAYBE once a year. A bit of limescale in the bathroom or kitchen? Not an issue. Toothpaste/spit sprinkles on the bathroom mirror? They can stay for weeks when I don't feel like cleaning.
But I also don't want to live in a place that looks like it hasn't been cleaned in years. This is my home after all and I do get some enjoyment from things not being a complete mess.
I've struggled a lot in the past trying to keep up with the bare minimum of cleaning. I've had one of my previous landlords needing to call a plumber to disassemble the toilet and soak it in industrial acid to remove the buildup of limescale/residue that we were unable to remove with regular cleaners when moving out.
By now, I have come to the conclusion, that it's much easier for me to build habits around not letting things get messy in the first place rather than trying to keep up with some sort of irregular deep-cleaning schedule.
For this engineer, the key operational principle is the SYSTEM. As long as everything relates to the system, I am good.
There was an article on automotive engineers in The New Yorker a few years back that contained this wonderful illustration of how an engineer's mind works: A pessimist says, "The glass is half empty." An optimist says, "The glass is half full." An engineer says, "The glass is twice as big as it needs to be." My son became a mechanical engineer about 13 years ago. I have really enjoyed watching how his way of thinking has evolved. I also heard, on NPR some years back, that a mechanical engineering degree is one of the few, perhaps the only, four year degree that will put you solidly in the middle class.
When the honeymoon is over more and more pillows appear on the bed, so when a guy has found a place for all 30ish pillows he's so exhausted he just wants to go to sleep.
Part of their evil plan to tire us out at bed time so that we sleep instead of doing "other" things...
Makes you nervous too.
Ever heard "dont put that there!"
My wife and I now sleep in separate bedrooms. I have two pillows on my bed. She has 7.
My bed us made in less than a minute. Hers takes 3.
I know better than to tell her how much time she's lost over the last year.
730 minutes is a long time. 😮😮 for you geeks that's 3 -1 = 2 x 365 = 730 min. Over 12 hours lost to pillows and comforter! 😂
@@rg3965 I've had this argument with my grandfather. He gets upset that I don't make my bed at all. It's a waste of time to me.
Rinsing off plates before putting them in the dishwasher puzzles me.
And most modern dishwashers use the bits left on the plates as part of the cleaning process, kind of like sandblasting.
31 years ago my boss at the restaurant told me "if you put them in clean, they'll come out clean".
@@kenjordan5750 If the food wasn't wasted, there wouldn't be much to rinse off. Take all you want, eat all you take or it will be there the next time you eat.
@@senseisecurityschool9337 busing tables is the worst job, imho
@@kenjordan5750 When I was a kid I picked up garbage from a drive in theater, can get gross.
Well being a woman engineer in a past life, I have many of all these traits mentioned, practical and logical and fluff. Always had an artistic side but mostly tend to be practical. Not as practical as my network admin hubby, who doesn’t understand my obsession with buying and using the correct towels for each bathroom. That bit of artistic sense says colors must match.
I was going to post this to my Facebook page, but discretion got the best of me. My wife reads my FB page, and too damn hot to sleep outside! Great stuff!
So, like the guy above who buys 12 gallons of milk instead of a dozen eggs, are you saying your WIFE is too hot to sleep outside?
0:16 On the same theme, Jack Davenport says that all guys remember his cushion rage scene in the BBC series "Coupling".
Hey Don, please keep up the good work i really like what you do, it's unique 😊
I suspect the squeegee does serve a purpose in that it reduces the chance of mildew and mold growing on the shower door.
Also a retired engineer: My one bottle is only about 4" tall. Other than that, he described my situation in every detail. The quantity of bottles, the pillows & squeegee were dead on.
The "bed curtain" is called a dust ruffle... and is supposedly meant to keep dust from gathering under the bed. To which I ask: Since we still need to dust under there, even with it there, what's the point of having it? Just buy a Roomba or a few vacuum cleaner extensions, and admit defeat!😕
In my mind, the purpose of the dust ruffle is so that I never _see_ all the dust that collects. Out of sight, out of mind. My wife was faced with the choice of cleaning under the bed herself, or removing the ruffle so I'd notice the dust, and decided to clean it herself. 👍
You can store things under the bed and this keeps it hidden so room looks neat
I thought it was a dust bunny fence.
This is an "under-the-bed-tote-organizer-hider."
Unless you're elderly and struggle to get out of bed, raising the bed off the floor is impractical and useless. Just put the mattress on the floor.
"I work all day as a problem solver and I come home and try to solve my wife's problems, but apparently that makes me an asshole."
...funniest joke I've heard this month, and it's the 26th.
Forty plus years as an engineer and 30 plus years married and my wife is always telling me that people (her and the kids) aren't engineering projects. Especially the kids. Yeah, they are.
Finally, there’s a natural home for engineers. Welcome to, brothers (from a retired engineer who’s glad to see more women in engineering; they may yet teach us some social skills). 😅
Re: a retired engineer who’s glad to see more women in engineering; they may yet teach us some social skills..
- Impossible... LOL
@@jimbrent8151 The difference between an accountant and an engineer is? The engineer looks at YOUR shoes when he’s (yes, he) talking to you.
@@bungee7503 I was just poking fun at myself...
Engineer here. Had exactly the same problem when first married. Tried to solve my new wife's problems with logic. Big mistake! Learned pretty soon the best answer is "Yes Dear, I love you Dear." and a hug. 22 years ago!
The shower squeegee actually has a practical application. Some city's water has too much calcium or just general crap in it. So, you squeegee everything down so there's no build up (which is a real pain to clean otherwise) and helps prevent mildew and mold.
IMO a true engineer would spend hours learning about scalp, skin care and hair products so they can understand for once and for all exactly what they need and the reasoning behind it. At least that's what I did 😂 People often confuse "an engineer" with "a man" 🤷🏻♀️
Now that you mention it, surviving an electrical burn because of an unqualified engineers disregard for safety has put me in such a situation. I have gone from focusing on electrical applications to immune treatments of an electrical burn that hasn't healed in pfff over ten years now? Nearly lost my leg hahaha... There's humor in there somewhere...
the skirt around the frame under the bead GREATLY REDUCES dust settling in that space - same as how cloth tarping keeps grime out of gaps on vehicles
... and it makes it easier for the monsters to hide.
And makes itself a real nuisance when you do need to clean under there--or look for that dog toy or whatever may have migrated under the bed.
Just put your bed on the floor. There's no need for bed frames or raising the bed off the floor unless you're elderly and can't stand on your own. It's all senseless luxury.
@@saintsword23 My bedroom is small. I make full use of the space under my bed for storage.
Hell yeah!! I love it!!
The hair product thing hit home for me. I have my head, so the 30 bottles of hair products in my house are just things in the way of my razor and the aspirin.
As a guy wo worked on cars and also rebuilt oil well equipment I thought engineers were the guys who looked at a perfectly simple reliable mechanical device and figured out how to make it overly complicated, with three times as many parts and four times the price.😊😅
About the wiping: water contains chalk and it is so much of an effort to remove it later, that it is easier to wipe all excess water off after showering instead of spending hours later to get it all off and not be very successful no matter how you do it.
The rest I don't do, female engineer here. I don't understand the pillow thing either, in Europe we don't have the bed curtain anyways (it would be to hide anything that you store under the bed by the way) and I only have one product in the shower plus an additional spray one gliss thingy to make it easier to comb the long hair. I also don't do these trap question stuff as it is totally stupid to do it. I ask a question, I want an honest answer, even if I might not like it.
What I don't understand is why men don't want women that act logically. Seems like they want some stuff in their lives they don't understand to make it more interesting, or whatever reason there is.
I am an engineer, my father was an engineer. All my childish questions were responded to by "you know the answer to that" followed by a circular series of questions that solved for the answer. He said that Socrates developed this tutoring mode. I an still very curious at 75 years of age.
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Things that don't make sense to an engineer:
Literally ANYTHING not on paper.
I have several engineer friends; & when I try to explain how something is malfunctioning at my house, they just tell me to get out of the way.
As an engineer who actually figured it out through trial and error, allow me to reveal this secret knowledge: When your wife doesn't want to accept your solution, it's because your solution isn't actually helping the problem that she has. What really happened was that you made an invalid assumption about the problem and started working on a solution, but your work was out of scope. Instead, you needed to have a stakeholder meeting where you solicit customer feedback so that her expectations are aligned with yours, and then you can proceed with work authorization. Don't neglect the value of planning!
And the reason why you can't just take her words at apparent face value is because, like you, she is using a set of common shorthand, but one you've never been trained in. All her friends know it, which is why none of them have the same problem as you, but you lack the qualifications to understand it until you complete a training course. But the way to get proper training involves being able to actually communicate, so it's no surprise that it takes us a long time, if ever, to finally figure it out.
Comes up with complcated solutions to simple problems and create bigger problems than the one they solved
I’m a retired hvac contractor. The joke in our office was that of all our thousands of customers, only engineers found it necessary to tell us they were engineers. We were like… who the F cares unless your an HVAC engineer…go away. I worked for a world famous surgeon who had no desire to tell me what he did ( I didn’t ask). But he had the nicest property I’ve ever seen so I was curious. Only after I Googles his name did I find out his profession. Sorry engineers.
Well, they are different. The kind you mean are literally “engine” eers working on engines. Locomotive drivers work on engines, also, hence why they are called that here in the US anyway. They work on engines. But the designers are actually “ingenu” neers….comes from ingenuity root. Sometimes we tell people we’re working with because we don’t want them thinking they can pull a fast one or that we are otherwise stupid. Has happened to me, workmen condescending or perhaps trying to convince me I need to spend more money. Being a woman it may be moreso because I’m a woman.
I’ll have to ask my HVAC Engineer (Boeing) son in law if he shares that when someone works on his home system. You’d think you could tell just by looking at him.
Lol I am a mechanical engineer but practice civil. I did some hvac on the side. I had a problem with a condenser pan leaking. Call hvac company and had to pay their stupid 69 dollar fee to tell me the same thing. Ok... then the ahole company tells me it would be 800 for then to fix. I tell the tech to get me his manager. I tell them I am an hvac engineer. That I know it is a 1 hour job and the pan would cost them less than 200 easily. They tries to spin a bs that they have to make them in-house custom. I said fine, I will give you 500 and I know you are overcharging me. They said no. I went and bought the pan at home depot for 159 and did it myself. F anyone trying to gouge me. I always tell any contractor or solar sales people, I am an engineer, let me do the math.... end of sale lol. Specially when they try to appeal to my emotions lol. Like if I had any...
@@donquique1 We were quoted $5,000 to fix our old Lexus, the radio had stopped working and several other little things. Son in law told my husband which part to order and walked him through taking the dashboard (damaged by Lexus of Eugene) off. He had it fixed in fifteen minutes. $5,000 my ass!
I asked the car salesman if the car I was considering buying had a free running or an interference engine. He just looked at me and said, "You're an Engineer, aren't you?" Somerimes it's so painfully obvious, you don't have to come right out and say it.
As an Engineer I am concerned only in "does it do the job?" Not the packaging, the colour or anything else. Just the functionality
As a field service engineer for many years (no I didn’t service fields), I went onto many company sites.
The first point of contact was often the CEO or site manager.
They always had a solution to fixing their problem, of course I had to listen as they indirectly paid my salary.
99% of them didn’t know one end of a screw driver from the other!
I’d go onto the factory production floor and see the guy operating the particular sick machine.
He was well aware of what was wrong with his machine as he used it every day.
More often than not his knowledge was very helpful in solving the problem.
Another masterpiece 👍
Squeegeeing the shower is meant to reduce the chances of mildew in the shower. If you live somewhere with high humidity or have bad ventilation in the bathroom leaving water on the tiles allows more mildew to grow.
Its something that makes perfect sense if you think about it, and especially if you're the one cleaning the shower out.
The bed skirt makes sense, it reduces dust under the bed making it so you need to clean under the bed less often.
You know what else doesn't make sense to engineers? Adapting. I used to be in industrial sales. One day I received a PO from a power plant. They wanted Red Head Trubolt+ wedge anchors. I immediately called them and told them that there was a recall on those and they were unavailable and provided them an option for an alternate from another brand that had the same specs. They refused and said that's what the engineers spec'd for the project and they could not use anything else, it had to be those specific anchors. I told them that there was a world-wide recall and they were not available. Every one was taken off the market and destroyed. They kept trying to get me to get them. This was 2018. To my knowledge, those anchors are still no longer on the market at all. ITW just said, nope, we're not making that mistake again. The inability to do anything other than what the sheet of paper says is the engineer's biggest downfall.
After watching this clip I suddenly realized that I must be an engineer. I also always wondered why my wife needed so many different things that all seem to do the same thing...
I would like to see an engineer use and do regular maintenance on what they design. Even better, try to do simple repairs on their stuff. Like changing a water pump on a typical car. Or a starter, etc. Bet them a $2 bill that they can't do any of those things with a basic tool set.
You know you'e an engineer when .... your mom keeps asking what it is what you do for a living again.
And if they say "I feel fat", that is not the time to make physical contact of any kind.
Normally I will just say, "You look it too."
So "you feel fat? Let me feel you and see" isn't the correct response?
Reminds me of Steves cushion rant in Coupling, calling these little bastards "sofa parasites" 😂
Computer engineer here. Ok so, I think every house needs a router, firewall, 2 switches, 2 wireless bridges, 5 desktops, 3 laptops, a business class server with 8 hard drives and an enterprise class server with 21 hard drives. All the blinky lights are awesome.
Apparently my wife does not.
You had me at 'apres-shampoo'
There is no superior race, but engineers are superior beings. Yes, I'm an engineer supremacist.
2:05 - absolute golden truth.
I'm not an engineer, and am actually more of an artistic person, and the lots of extra pillows thing never made sense to me. Maybe it's more a man vs woman thing.
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Throw pillows (and curtains under the bed though that's also functional in that it hides dust) are decoration, so it just depends on your likes and sensibilities. Though oftentimes they're added as default / habit (because one of the spouses comes from a throw pillow home and thought it was the thing you did) and no one actually likes them, in which case the issue is just a lack of communication.
@@BlairdBlaird A fair question... and I asked this of my mom, when she insisted on me--a single, masculine hetero male--having a dust ruffle on MY bed: Who the hell are we gonna be showing our private areas to that we need play "dress-up" for?😕
Interesting. I was raised in a household that barely has any pillows or several shampoos at once. I'm guessing it's more of developed country vs. 3rd country thing.
From when I left my mom's house to when I lost my hair, I think I bought less than 10 bottles of shampoo in my whole life. I'm an engineer 😎
Also an Engineer, but retired, 80 years of age, Full head of hair excepting the crown area (30mm circle). Shampoo every day when I shower. Statisical sample of two here!!! - conclusion: If you don't shampoo regularly you will go bald? Squeegee the glass each time - not that I think it's necessary but a happy partner means a happy life.