Cecil is one of the most under-appreciated geniuses around. He took what Art Tatum did and advanced it light years. Such sophisticated and complex music.
This is riveting. I've just discovered Cecil's music and I'm hooked. Listen to Gary Giddins interview about him, also on RUclips, for a sense of his remarkable history and legacy.
WOW, people still bash Cecil Taylor, that's kinda cool, he wanted to throw some people off and he still does!!you know Cecil kinda sees the piano as a drumset, he thinks in rhythmic cells that repeat, overlap, runon, run off, call to others, slip and slide, kaboom, blasts, events and events and events, he isn't trying to play"jazz" as a style but live the jazz ideal, playing music of great fun and warm feeling, he wants to break into your brain with his bird like chattering and zippering those piano runs into your consciousness, guys get confused, they think it does go anywhere or do anything, but that was the point all along, go nowhere, do nothing, listen and react, play and let it go, don't grasp don't fix it inyour mind before you do it, just be one with the moment and enjoy it fully, but as long as people take offense I feel like it has also succeeded in leaving the losers outside the door where the rest of us can listen and love it without the distraction of piano technique critics or "jazzmen"
I think that you are projecting your own stuff into Cecil, Marcus Barfield. He is a highly-trained force of nature, with people like yourself supposedly situated 'inside the door', but he is probably indifferent to your notions of "throwing people off", whatever the hell that means. Once the notion of "loser" is introduced, the penny drops that that these are, basically, your own personal status issues. Time to leave these received ideas,, the 'them and us' mentality, at your supposed 'door', surely? They are so yesterday. No-one is impressed by your 'kinda cool' shtick. Free Jazz has so often been high jacked, over the years, by those who want to prove their hip quotient, and you are just the latest. Taylor's technique, like that of Derek Bailey, is inescapable, and trying to ignore it is disingenuous in the extreme. Just listen to it, rather than striking poses, and acknowledge that Cecil's technical skills are what makes him so memorable. Listening to, and judging, Cecil without the 'distraction' of his technique tells me that you haven't really listened to him at all. Go to the back of class.
Marcus Barfield - Cecil is not trying to throw anyone off. Quite the contrary, i wud think he's disappointed that his detractors don't understand what he's doing. His music does have focus. Its linear, not circuitous as with most music. Its a journey, akin to a walk in the woods with all its bends, streams, storms, twists and turns, etc. One literally has to alter the way music is normally listened to.
My name is Samuel and I am currently working as a researcher gathering all known archival material on behalf of Cecil Taylor and the newly established Cecil P Taylor Foundation in Brooklyn NY. As Cecil is currently preparing a documentary as well as an upcoming autobiography, we are currently reaching out to all musical peers, institutions, academics, friends and fans to help him gather all known archival material regarding Mr Taylor including; home movies, concert films, personal and professional photography, documentary footage, television segments, print, radio interviews, lectures, posters and audio recordings of his gargantuan body of work. We have recently come across this amazing video on your channel and it would be brilliant to organize obtaining a copy of this for Cecil's archives. The award winning Australian filmmaker Amiel Courtin-Wilson is currently living with Cecil at his home in Brooklyn and overseeing the archiving of Cecil's poetry, letters, music and personal items of interest and as we are currently relying on volunteers to aid in this task, we hope that you can help us in our goal to create a definitive database of Cecil's artistic output over the last six decades. As we are gathering material from literally hundreds of sources from around the world we are hoping to find the highest quality source material possible so we would greatly appreciate any leads you may have in regards to radio or television stations that certain programs were broadcast on, as well as any other known contacts you may have who might also have material related to Mr Taylor. Thank you very much for your time and we look forward to hearing from you soon. All the very best, Samuel
@Samuel I worked with Cecil a little in the 90s and he was a profound influence on me. I have some music manuscripts in his own hand if the foundation and archive work is still proceeding. Let me know .
The rhythmic interplay between Cecil and the vibes player is amazing; it's actually a bit disorienting. Cecil plays like a percussionist. You know it's him when he plays.
If you don't like something,that's fine.Having an opinion is one thing,but making a value judgement is another.I love CT's music,but don't understand why people feel the need to trash him...Why are you listening(presumably)?
GeoCoppens, Evidently Cecil Taylor is above your level of comprehension. I admit that I don't always enjoy his music, it depends on my mood , today, for instance, it is the only music that satisfies me.
How do you know Cecil Taylor's music is above my level of comprehension? . There is nothing to comprehend! It harsh and unfeeling. It's not going anywhere! And it's all fine for you art snobs!
I'm not and I`ve never been a snobbish in the least, you don´t know me, Cecil Taylor music is very complex and hard to play, it is not phony, it is not aimed to massive audiences and it is not a fashion, not repetitive or minimalist crap. Maybe in the future if you have something worthy in your head you'll change your mind but at the moment judging your comment is obvious you understand nothing of his music.
@@GeoCoppens your mind is a closed trap which is literally useless. So in your pea brain view, all Cecil fans are art snobs. Nobody there who genuinely loves what he does!! Get your ignorant ass out of our space buffon!
I am a person that is open to most music, from classical modernicm, dark metal, Ornette, african, bulgarian voices , yes there are very few limits, if the music has the nerve. When it comes to Cecil Taylor i have no chance. A few of his early recordings are enjoyable , they got a lot of qualities. The things he present here, and in his newer genre is to me just empty noise. I'm sorry to say that, as a musician myself, i would prefer to say something good of my listning-experience, but it is nothing here that makes me curious or want me to hear more. It's only noise that make me wanna turn it off as soon as possible.
Coppens - love aylmer but get real. Taylor's music is exceedingly emotional more bluesy than Aylers and way more innovative. I have a dozen ayler records and he is an incredibley emotional
I have heard Taylor live in 1969 and in the 1970's. His music does not have a grain of feeling, let alone jazzy feeling! It's harsh! Then I heard him on tv with three tenor saxophonists - Frank Wright, Alfred Harth and Glenn Spearman, all third rate talents - who competed to blow their brains out, all at the same time, with Taylor bashing away at the piano, totally pointless and going NOWHERE! Simply awfull, a dead end!
Bro its one thing to have an awful opinion that sucks and no one agree with but why fuck it up for others why are you commenting on a video of his if you don't even like him! Why you here? 🤣🤣🤣
+Ricardo da Mata Thanx 4 replying(’-’*)♪ I have to say I'm not a good listener of Mr. Tailor. But I respect his creativity. I usually listen to Bach, Miles, Keith, Debussy, Monk, and so on. I would like to ask U your favorites.
What a great set-list!! We'd better talk about BRAHMS, in this case. Like Mr. Tailor, he created his ART in the tradition. For example, his 1st violin sonata was inspired by Corelli, the forgotten Italian music master.
Rashid Bakr - trap drums
Thurman Barker - marimba, misc. percussion
Cecil is one of the most under-appreciated geniuses around. He took what Art Tatum did and advanced it light years. Such sophisticated and complex music.
Great dynamics! So perfectly balanced with high pitch cymbal, marimbas, bass drum, and piano in between! Yes, excellent!!
This is riveting. I've just discovered Cecil's music and I'm hooked. Listen to Gary Giddins interview about him, also on RUclips, for a sense of his remarkable history and legacy.
What a pureness & Beauty!
WOW, people still bash Cecil Taylor, that's kinda cool, he wanted to throw some people off and he still does!!you know Cecil kinda sees the piano as a drumset, he thinks in rhythmic cells that repeat, overlap, runon, run off, call to others, slip and slide, kaboom, blasts, events and events and events, he isn't trying to play"jazz" as a style but live the jazz ideal, playing music of great fun and warm feeling, he wants to break into your brain with his bird like chattering and zippering those piano runs into your consciousness, guys get confused, they think it does go anywhere or do anything, but that was the point all along, go nowhere, do nothing, listen and react, play and let it go, don't grasp don't fix it inyour mind before you do it, just be one with the moment and enjoy it fully, but as long as people take offense I feel like it has also succeeded in leaving the losers outside the door where the rest of us can listen and love it without the distraction of piano technique critics or "jazzmen"
I think that you are projecting your own stuff into Cecil, Marcus Barfield. He is a highly-trained force of nature, with people like yourself supposedly situated 'inside the door', but he is probably indifferent to your notions of "throwing people off", whatever the hell that means. Once the notion of "loser" is introduced, the penny drops that that these are, basically, your own personal status issues. Time to leave these received ideas,, the 'them and us' mentality, at your supposed 'door', surely? They are so yesterday. No-one is impressed by your 'kinda cool' shtick. Free Jazz has so often been high jacked, over the years, by those who want to prove their hip quotient, and you are just the latest.
Taylor's technique, like that of Derek Bailey, is inescapable, and trying to ignore it is disingenuous in the extreme. Just listen to it, rather than striking poses, and acknowledge that Cecil's technical skills are what makes him so memorable. Listening to, and judging, Cecil without the 'distraction' of his technique tells me that you haven't really listened to him at all.
Go to the back of class.
Marcus Barfield - Cecil is not trying to throw anyone off. Quite the contrary, i wud think he's disappointed that his detractors don't understand what he's doing. His music does have focus. Its linear, not circuitous as with most music. Its a journey, akin to a walk in the woods with all its bends, streams, storms, twists and turns, etc. One literally has to alter the way music is normally listened to.
@@trevorbarre5616 standing ovation
very great set, thank you for posting this!!
And Cecil's music is all blues all the time.
Fantastique : l'extraordinaire beauté du chaos du monde transposée dans un univers sonore à couper le souffle...
Le Picasso de la musique, il casse tous les codes et c'est encore de la musique, magnifique
Picasso showing off at 5:05
the melodic lines.
Middelheim Jazz Festival. Antwerp, Belgium. 11th August 1995
Awesome!
wonderful set
My name is Samuel and I am currently working as a researcher gathering all known archival material on behalf of Cecil Taylor and the newly established Cecil P Taylor Foundation in Brooklyn NY.
As Cecil is currently preparing a documentary as well as an upcoming autobiography, we are currently reaching out to all musical peers, institutions, academics, friends and fans to help him gather all known archival material regarding Mr Taylor including; home movies, concert films, personal and professional photography, documentary footage, television segments, print, radio interviews, lectures, posters and audio recordings of his gargantuan body of work.
We have recently come across this amazing video on your channel
and it would be brilliant to organize obtaining a copy of this for Cecil's archives.
The award winning Australian filmmaker Amiel Courtin-Wilson is currently living with Cecil at his home in Brooklyn and overseeing the archiving of Cecil's poetry, letters, music and personal items of interest and as we are currently relying on volunteers to aid in this task, we hope that you can help us in our goal to create a definitive database of Cecil's artistic output over the last six decades.
As we are gathering material from literally hundreds of sources from around the world we are hoping to find the highest quality source material possible so we would greatly appreciate any leads you may have in regards to radio or television stations that certain programs were broadcast on, as well as any other known contacts you may have who might also have material related to Mr Taylor.
Thank you very much for your time and we look forward to hearing from you soon.
All the very best, Samuel
@Samuel I worked with Cecil a little in the 90s and he was a profound influence on me. I have some music manuscripts in his own hand if the foundation and archive work is still proceeding. Let me know .
Did this documentary ever get made?
What is status of the documentary
Greetings from Moers... forgot which year. - 🎶
Super Super 👍
Geo, I'm sure you stay for the safe stuff.. stick to what you know!
I'd love to see a "note-for-note" transcription of this one!
Why’s that...Do you think you could play it?
Is the same as listen to napalm death! Love it !!!
No it's not. What a crass comparison.
@@trevorbarre5616 to each their own bro stop with the elitism
I own a private jazz record label and my first release was the Albert Ayler Quartet from 1964. How safe is that?
The rhythmic interplay between Cecil and the vibes player is amazing; it's actually a bit disorienting. Cecil plays like a percussionist. You know it's him when he plays.
Any idea about exact date and location??
jazzrealities Michael Frohne
Middelheim Jazz Festival. Antwerp, Belgium. 11th August 1995
It was good of Picasso to play some percussion!
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
What other titles are in your catalogue?. I still dont agree with your comment.
whoa..and i thought schoenberg was avante garde. nice.
If you don't like something,that's fine.Having an opinion is one thing,but making a value judgement is another.I love CT's music,but don't understand why people feel the need to trash him...Why are you listening(presumably)?
For those who can hear...
Who said he didn't?
GeoCoppens, Evidently Cecil Taylor is above your level of comprehension. I admit that I don't always enjoy his music, it depends on my mood , today, for instance, it is the only music that satisfies me.
I'm with U. He is EXTRAORDINARY.
How do you know Cecil Taylor's music is above my level of comprehension? . There is nothing to comprehend! It harsh and unfeeling. It's not going anywhere! And it's all fine for you art snobs!
I'm not and I`ve never been a snobbish in the least, you don´t know me, Cecil Taylor music is very complex and hard to play, it is not phony, it is not aimed to massive audiences and it is not a fashion, not repetitive or minimalist crap. Maybe in the future if you have something worthy in your head you'll change your mind but at the moment judging your comment is obvious you understand nothing of his music.
It's not that I don't understand his music; I find it intensely repulsive!
@@GeoCoppens your mind is a closed trap which is literally useless. So in your pea brain view, all Cecil fans are art snobs. Nobody there who genuinely loves what he does!! Get your ignorant ass out of our space buffon!
"This isn't jazz..." I think I heard some jazz "critic" opine around 1920, 34, 46, etc. Robert Burnett.
So??
Sounds like the soundcheck was a success. When do they play music?
I thought this was one of those Shreds videos, it must be, right?
I am a person that is open to most music, from classical modernicm, dark metal, Ornette, african, bulgarian voices , yes there are very few limits, if the music has the nerve. When it comes to Cecil Taylor i have no chance. A few of his early recordings are enjoyable , they got a lot of qualities. The things he present here, and in his newer genre is to me just empty noise. I'm sorry to say that, as a musician myself, i would prefer to say something good of my listning-experience, but it is nothing here that makes me curious or want me to hear more. It's only noise that make me wanna turn it off as soon as possible.
Awww.
Coppens - love aylmer but get real. Taylor's music is exceedingly emotional more bluesy than Aylers and way more innovative. I have a dozen ayler records and he is an incredibley emotional
I love both but Ayler is more expressive. But Cecil is still really expressive.
Que padre llegar y hacer estupideces en el piano
que atrevido por favor!° ladron
you don't know what you say - one can appreciate or not this music, but his talent and skill are unquestionable.
I have heard Taylor live in 1969 and in the 1970's. His music does not have a grain of feeling, let alone jazzy feeling! It's harsh! Then I heard him on tv with three tenor saxophonists - Frank Wright, Alfred Harth and Glenn Spearman, all third rate talents - who competed to blow their brains out, all at the same time, with Taylor bashing away at the piano, totally pointless and going NOWHERE! Simply awfull, a dead end!
Bro its one thing to have an awful opinion that sucks and no one agree with but why fuck it up for others why are you commenting on a video of his if you don't even like him! Why you here? 🤣🤣🤣
Your comment exposes your profound ignorance.
sad opinionated criticism. Open minds chuckle
Cecil Taylor is not free because he plays the same thing over and over... He is not really a jazzman.
hahaha(^∇^) U have a good sense of humor. U don't like Duke, Monk, Bud, probably.
aki Ishi They have not to do with Taylor.
+Ricardo da Mata Thanx 4 replying(’-’*)♪ I have to say I'm not a good listener of Mr. Tailor. But I respect his creativity. I usually listen to Bach, Miles, Keith, Debussy, Monk, and so on. I would like to ask U your favorites.
aki Ishi Brahms, Sonny Rollins, Haydn, Lennie Tristano, Mozart, Charlie Parker, Sarah Vaughan, Beethoven, and so on.
What a great set-list!! We'd better talk about BRAHMS, in this case. Like Mr. Tailor, he created his ART in the tradition. For example, his 1st violin sonata was inspired by Corelli, the forgotten Italian music master.
Simply awful and totally overrated!