I am so blown away by the engagement this video and my last video have gotten! What an AWESOME feeling to see this many views and this many comments. I appreciate each and every one of you! So much!
I downgraded from Vista to XP x64 and it was awesome. It was basically Server 2003 with the XP stuff on top. I remember it being rock solid, but getting drivers for anything was an absolute pain back then
Agreed!! Also, I didn't think about this while making this video, I installed x64 SP2. I actually don't remember if I used x64 before or after SP2 was released.
i ran xp x64, it ran smooth. but there wasn't a lot of 64 bit software at the time.. the big thing about it was it could handle waaay more ram, which i needed.
I never had a problem with Windows XP 64bit, it played many dozens of games and every piece of software and hardware I installed worked. Most the problems people complain about was during launch, companies were slow at first making drivers - but as time went on companies caught up and it wasn’t much of a problem.
I think the only issue most folks had were obtaining drivers when XP x64 came out. It was not that the OS was bad, it was that the OEM/hardware manufacturers were a bit slow with their release of signed drivers.
remember that your experiment is at the end of driver development with no ongoing windows updates. when we were getting xp 64 as it came out, driver development was ongoing and buggy. windows updates were coming in, breaking stuff along the way. being at the end here has its advantages.
Yes! This a brilliant comment! Earlier today I was reading another comment and it sparked this exact same thought in my head! I actually do not remember what year I tried X64 XP back in the day.... I feel it was at the beginning of the life cycle. The ISO I used in this video was Windows XP x64 w/SP2!
This is my all-time favorite OS. I have built such a powerful computer to run it: Xeon E5-2697v2 ASUS P9-X79-E WS 64 GB DDR3-1600 ECC 4x Quadro M6000 / 2x GTX TITAN X (SLI does not work) 1600w PSU 80+ Platinum 3 DVD/CD drives Glad to see more people enjoying this OS.
That is a BEAST of a system!!! I could only have dreamed of something not even close to that back in the day. Thank you very much for watching and commenting! If you haven't already, hit that subscribe button to see more future content! :)
The biggest issue with XP x64 was that some games would not run because of it did not see SP3 and x64 did not have an SP4. If you use Hirens or Sterlec boot CD, you can use the Windows Install utility and point the install to a driver folder with your XP or XP x64 drivers and they will be installed... Also, the SDI and SDIO will help loading drivers that you may have missed or update them to the latest.
Interesting!!! I have the full Snappy Driver pack download from a different project. Never thought of using here though!! I wasn't aware of the other functionality in Hiren's that you speak of. I'll have to check that out! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
hey man great vid! XP x64 was definitely a much better experience than Vista. I remember picking up my new build with Vista x64 and reformatting to Install XP x64 the very first day. I used it for many years until I had to upgrade to Windows 7. I am tempted to set up an old laptop with it now after watching this. PS. Your experience from when you tested it may have been because of drivers. I remember driver support for x64 wasn't the greatest at the beginning.
Thank you for the compliments! Yeah, it had to be drivers for sure! I was an early adopter to WinXP x64 and my experience in this video was 100% different than when I first tried it many years ago. Thx very much for watching and commenting!
You know, I tried to remember how long I actually used XP... I and I struggle to find an answer! I do know that I really liked XP. I am not sure if it is my favorite.. because, you know... Windows 7.... hehehe. But yeah, it was great OS. Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
I ran XP x64 on my Core I3 first gen with 4G (later 6G) DDR3 RAM and integrated Intel graphics laptop. The computer came with Win7 Home Premium and I installed XP on it just for fun. First time I installed it in IDE mode and then installed SATA AHCI drivers but later I slipstreamed AHCI drivers and made my custom CD with all the drivers needed for that computer. It ran great, rock solid, without any issues. All the driverswere spot on and overall using the computer was a really good experience. The only difference to Windows 7 was that the battery lasted more on Win7 than XP.
It’s funny, but I remember XP64 the same way. Back in the 2000s I predominantly ran Win2K on my work PCs and XP on my home and gaming machines. I honestly cannot remember why I had avoided XP64. Heck, I was still running XP all the way to 2015 and inadvertently skipped over Win7 entirely lol. Last year I came across a bunch of LGA775 motherboards and components I forgot I had, and built out a few XP machines. For shits-n-giggles I decided to give XP64 a try, and damn do I wish I had done it back when it was still relevant. An overclocked Core 2 Quad Q9550, with 8GB of DDR2, and an ATI HD5770 is an absolute beast of an XP machine. Every game and piece of software I have thrown at it has worked flawlessly. Granted I am not using the system on a daily basis, but I have had zero stability issues running the old CAD/CAM software I used back then as well as hours of gaming. Only thing I have not yet tried, is some of the 16bit software I have kicking around from the 90s that I was still using well into the 2000s.
LGA775 is a great platform for Windows XP! I still have few complete parts sets kicking around. Even though I've only used the build in this video for a week, (I've been going crazy with games I have not played in a long time!) It has been rock solid. It's not what I remember from back in the day.
@@KMHardwareOh I know the feeling lol. When I finished building mine, I dug out one of my old CRTs then proceeded to install almost my entire CD catalogue.
I tried to run it way back when, and it was a trainwreck. Went back to 32, and smooth as silk. Besides, at the time, so few 64 bit software titles that were out there that it made no real difference.
I had no idea the perception of x64 was that bad in places, I ran an early Opteron chip using it for the longest time since I had all the drivers in 64-bit land as well. Smooth as butter in my experience from the day.
Yeah it's wierd how many ppl have such different experiences with x64 Edition. This current built is totally not a daily driver... but it's been rock solid.
Large address aware flag setting was required for many programs to be able to utilise the ram correctly. I would still be using it if 2d hardware acceleration worked, just couldn't justify screen tearing on video anymore.
I have XP X64 Edition installed on my 2010 Classic Mac Pro with as of now an unsupported AMD Radeon RX 580 8 GB, but it's either this GPU or a flashed Radeon HD 7950. Mind you, this machine has not seen anything beyond Mojave and Win 10 / XP installations riding along from a previous system. SPECS: 2 X Xeon X5680 at 3.33 GHz 64 GB RAM AMD Radeon RX 580 with 8 GB Dedicated (have yet to test this GPU with Metal and AI apps).
I had xp64 before, mostly for some emulators like Mame that started supporting 64bit and they run indeed faster than their 32bit versions, all perfectly stable. But other than that, I dont remember xp64 being something more useful than the standart xp, plus later 64bit applications didnt support xp64 but needed Vista or 7. So that was it, just an experiment from Microsoft, perfectly stable at least.
Use windows XP 64 daily still, on an work machine (no internet access) very stable, but atlast it will be replaced, mosly due hardware it run 24/7 on is getting very old noe.
I used win XP x64 on a single core AMD Athlon 64 XP machine and the experience wasn't good, mostly because of many applications not supported on 64 bit OS. As far as I can recall even MSN messenger didn't run. It was however stable.
l miss the XP days... I still have vivid memory of building the computer with the parts I bought specifically to install thIs brand new OS that I couldn't wait to come out. I bought that hardware over time as I could afford it and had it sitting on the shelf waiting for XP release date! That was the only time I ever did that.
It IS actually cheating using newer hardware, because it will have more mature/stable x64 drivers. The bad eXPerience with XP x64 back in the day was mainly driver support/stability. Updates where also hand-me-downs from Server 2003 which also brought some bugs/problems. Using Server 2003 x64 was probably a better experience than using XP x64. I went directly from XP x86 to Windows 7 x86/x64, so I'm just recalling what I read from people experiences.
Agreed on all points! It was actually the same thought I had after the video went live while reading comments. Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
I had, and still do have Win XP on one of my computers, win 7 - 10 on the other 2 computers :). I will NEVER use win 11. Look people, before you start calling a dumbass. I PAID 199.00 for that Windows XP Pro when it came out :)
I'm confused by your comment of the RAM being too big if a capacity to fit? In a 64bit OS RAM capacity is not a limitation like it is with 32bit systems. The maximum addressable memory of a 64 bit OS is theoretically 16 Million Terabytes, so I'm super confused. I have had windows xp 64 edition with over 8gb of ram working. So again, really confused by the statement.
I had to rewatch my own video to see what your statement was. Hehe. I didn't explain it correctly in the video. That ripjaws RAM, even though it is still DDR3, it can be problematic on older boards. I am not sure if it is the chip density on the actual RAM module or what... ("too big") Also, it is not listed in the memory QVL for this board as it is much newer RAM than this board is.
No worries! Your comment was actually great! It's a sign that I need to try and explain more clearly what I am doing while I'm recording. I'm still pretty new at this whole RUclips thing... so feedback is most certainly welcome and in fact, required!
Hehe.. I should have called our channel "The Dusty Basement". Its an old house and everything always has a fine layer of dust on it! Especially in the basement.
A well meant suggestion: Speak a bit faster/with fewer pauses, please. It might sound more natural or like a hangout. But for someone like me, who randomly clicked your video, it doesn't hold my attention very long if you hm and hah your way through the computer parts for the first two minutes, when this video seems to be about WinXP.
I thought it was fine. You need to watch less TikTok and RUclips Shorts, most people don't need subway surfers gameplay on the side and 30s videos to focus on things.
To be completely real.. I appreciate this type of comment. I very much hmm and haw too much. I hear it while I edit the video. To be honest, it's how I naturally talk... so hard to break the habit. Lol With 100% unscripted videos, I am left speaking the way I always do. I will say this though, the youtubers that speak at Mach 1 while screaming at the mic drive me nuts. I so don't want to be one of them. Thank you very much for watching and commenting! I am always so full of joy when a video gets engagement. It's a good feeling.
Hehe... I was waiting for someone to comment!! I have a little plastic spatula that I normally use but I couldn't find it. I am not a fan of using the cooler to spread the paste as you normally need to put way too much on for it to work reliably. Also, you really don't need much paste if it's pre-spread. So yup, a finger works well! Thank you for watching and commenting! It's truly appreciated.
As much as I want to agree, I've had no end of driver problems and general incompatibilities with it. I think Windows 2000 is the best ever version of windows. No frills, all business.
I am so blown away by the engagement this video and my last video have gotten! What an AWESOME feeling to see this many views and this many comments. I appreciate each and every one of you! So much!
I downgraded from Vista to XP x64 and it was awesome. It was basically Server 2003 with the XP stuff on top. I remember it being rock solid, but getting drivers for anything was an absolute pain back then
Agreed!! Also, I didn't think about this while making this video, I installed x64 SP2. I actually don't remember if I used x64 before or after SP2 was released.
If your were fortunate enough to have motherboard drivers for XP64, there was always a crappy printer or scanner back then without driver support.
You are speaking truth!!! :)
i ran xp x64, it ran smooth. but there wasn't a lot of 64 bit software at the time.. the big thing about it was it could handle waaay more ram, which i needed.
Yeah, I remember the system I bought specifically to run xp x64... It cost me a fortune and it made me so mad when it caused me grief. Lol
It didn't make use of the extra RAM above 4GIG, then I had idea in mind, if won't use it, I made a RAMDisk with it, and redirected my swap file to it.
@@MarkWhich that's windows xp, windows xp x64 could do 128gb, not that anyone had 128gb of ram in those days
Could you imagine the cost of 128 gigs of RAM back then!!!!
@@KMHardware i got curious, and had to look it up.. somewhere between 10k and 15k USD.. crazy expensive
I never had a problem with Windows XP 64bit, it played many dozens of games and every piece of software and hardware I installed worked.
Most the problems people complain about was during launch, companies were slow at first making drivers - but as time went on companies caught up and it wasn’t much of a problem.
Yep. I was certainly an earlier adopter of XP x64. Had my fair share of issues for sure! Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
Much like VISTA in that respect
Xp x64 edition and xp Pro x64 are different AFAIK, the latter being server edition based.
I think the only issue most folks had were obtaining drivers when XP x64 came out. It was not that the OS was bad, it was that the OEM/hardware manufacturers were a bit slow with their release of signed drivers.
Yeah, you are completely on point with your statement! Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
remember that your experiment is at the end of driver development with no ongoing windows updates. when we were getting xp 64 as it came out, driver development was ongoing and buggy. windows updates were coming in, breaking stuff along the way. being at the end here has its advantages.
Yes! This a brilliant comment! Earlier today I was reading another comment and it sparked this exact same thought in my head! I actually do not remember what year I tried X64 XP back in the day.... I feel it was at the beginning of the life cycle. The ISO I used in this video was Windows XP x64 w/SP2!
This is my all-time favorite OS. I have built such a powerful computer to run it:
Xeon E5-2697v2
ASUS P9-X79-E WS
64 GB DDR3-1600 ECC
4x Quadro M6000 / 2x GTX TITAN X (SLI does not work)
1600w PSU 80+ Platinum
3 DVD/CD drives
Glad to see more people enjoying this OS.
That is a BEAST of a system!!! I could only have dreamed of something not even close to that back in the day. Thank you very much for watching and commenting! If you haven't already, hit that subscribe button to see more future content! :)
The biggest issue with XP x64 was that some games would not run because of it did not see SP3 and x64 did not have an SP4.
If you use Hirens or Sterlec boot CD, you can use the Windows Install utility and point the install to a driver folder with your XP or XP x64 drivers and they will be installed...
Also, the SDI and SDIO will help loading drivers that you may have missed or update them to the latest.
Interesting!!! I have the full Snappy Driver pack download from a different project. Never thought of using here though!! I wasn't aware of the other functionality in Hiren's that you speak of. I'll have to check that out! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
hey man great vid! XP x64 was definitely a much better experience than Vista. I remember picking up my new build with Vista x64 and reformatting to Install XP x64 the very first day. I used it for many years until I had to upgrade to Windows 7. I am tempted to set up an old laptop with it now after watching this.
PS. Your experience from when you tested it may have been because of drivers. I remember driver support for x64 wasn't the greatest at the beginning.
Thank you for the compliments! Yeah, it had to be drivers for sure! I was an early adopter to WinXP x64 and my experience in this video was 100% different than when I first tried it many years ago. Thx very much for watching and commenting!
I used XP Pro x64 edition for like 3 years, it was perfectly fine. Compatibility for certain things was hit or miss, but overall it wasn't bad.
You know, I tried to remember how long I actually used XP... I and I struggle to find an answer! I do know that I really liked XP. I am not sure if it is my favorite.. because, you know... Windows 7.... hehehe. But yeah, it was great OS. Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
I ran XP x64 on my Core I3 first gen with 4G (later 6G) DDR3 RAM and integrated Intel graphics laptop. The computer came with Win7 Home Premium and I installed XP on it just for fun. First time I installed it in IDE mode and then installed SATA AHCI drivers but later I slipstreamed AHCI drivers and made my custom CD with all the drivers needed for that computer.
It ran great, rock solid, without any issues. All the driverswere spot on and overall using the computer was a really good experience. The only difference to Windows 7 was that the battery lasted more on Win7 than XP.
I really miss the Windows XP days... It was such a good OS. (I mean, Windows 7 eventually was awesome too)
It’s funny, but I remember XP64 the same way. Back in the 2000s I predominantly ran Win2K on my work PCs and XP on my home and gaming machines. I honestly cannot remember why I had avoided XP64. Heck, I was still running XP all the way to 2015 and inadvertently skipped over Win7 entirely lol.
Last year I came across a bunch of LGA775 motherboards and components I forgot I had, and built out a few XP machines. For shits-n-giggles I decided to give XP64 a try, and damn do I wish I had done it back when it was still relevant. An overclocked Core 2 Quad Q9550, with 8GB of DDR2, and an ATI HD5770 is an absolute beast of an XP machine.
Every game and piece of software I have thrown at it has worked flawlessly. Granted I am not using the system on a daily basis, but I have had zero stability issues running the old CAD/CAM software I used back then as well as hours of gaming. Only thing I have not yet tried, is some of the 16bit software I have kicking around from the 90s that I was still using well into the 2000s.
LGA775 is a great platform for Windows XP! I still have few complete parts sets kicking around. Even though I've only used the build in this video for a week, (I've been going crazy with games I have not played in a long time!) It has been rock solid. It's not what I remember from back in the day.
@@KMHardwareOh I know the feeling lol. When I finished building mine, I dug out one of my old CRTs then proceeded to install almost my entire CD catalogue.
I tried to run it way back when, and it was a trainwreck. Went back to 32, and smooth as silk.
Besides, at the time, so few 64 bit software titles that were out there that it made no real difference.
See!!! This is exactly how I remember it too! Lol thx for watching and commenting!
I had a really good experience with xp x64. No driver problems or anything.
Yup. Quite a few ppl saying the same thing!!
I had no idea the perception of x64 was that bad in places, I ran an early Opteron chip using it for the longest time since I had all the drivers in 64-bit land as well. Smooth as butter in my experience from the day.
Yeah it's wierd how many ppl have such different experiences with x64 Edition. This current built is totally not a daily driver... but it's been rock solid.
Large address aware flag setting was required for many programs to be able to utilise the ram correctly.
I would still be using it if 2d hardware acceleration worked, just couldn't justify screen tearing on video anymore.
Thank you!
@@KMHardware does x64 come with a wifi adaptor?
I have XP X64 Edition installed on my 2010 Classic Mac Pro with as of now an unsupported AMD Radeon RX 580 8 GB, but it's either this GPU or a flashed Radeon HD 7950.
Mind you, this machine has not seen anything beyond Mojave and Win 10 / XP installations riding along from a previous system.
SPECS:
2 X Xeon X5680 at 3.33 GHz
64 GB RAM
AMD Radeon RX 580 with 8 GB Dedicated (have yet to test this GPU with Metal and AI apps).
I had the chance to have two retired Mac pro machines from work a couple of years ago. (Before I started this channel) I wish I had of taken them.
XP x64 edition and XP Pro x64 are different systems.
@@nexus7tablet610 does xp x64 work with a wifi adaptor?
Spreading thermal paste with your finger? Now I've seen it all.
You should try it!!! 😅
Maybe taste it too!
Lol!
yeah i remmember x64 being a nightmare for driver support back in the day felt like a poorly done prototype OS.
I think it was rushed to support the very first x64 Pentium CPU.
@kmprojects2023 lol the itanuim that was the titanic of cpu's which totally failed.
Yeah that's what I remember being the case. Impossible to find any drivers for it.
I had xp64 before, mostly for some emulators like Mame that started supporting 64bit and they run indeed faster than their 32bit versions, all perfectly stable.
But other than that, I dont remember xp64 being something more useful than the standart xp, plus later 64bit applications didnt support xp64 but needed Vista or 7.
So that was it, just an experiment from Microsoft, perfectly stable at least.
Yeah, I think you are right. M$ had to start somewhere with x64... and I guess Windows XP made sense to them.
Use windows XP 64 daily still, on an work machine (no internet access) very stable, but atlast it will be replaced, mosly due hardware it run 24/7 on is getting very old noe.
Yup! I do IT work in a manufacturing environment. We still have some xp machines here too!
I used win XP x64 on a single core AMD Athlon 64 XP machine and the experience wasn't good, mostly because of many applications not supported on 64 bit OS. As far as I can recall even MSN messenger didn't run. It was however stable.
Yeah, this is the same scenario I remember. Just constant little issues that annoyed the heck out of me.
I used Windows XP x64. Considering very unstable RAM patches for XP x32, x64 is really the most normal version for using XP on not-that-old PC.
l miss the XP days... I still have vivid memory of building the computer with the parts I bought specifically to install thIs brand new OS that I couldn't wait to come out. I bought that hardware over time as I could afford it and had it sitting on the shelf waiting for XP release date! That was the only time I ever did that.
It IS actually cheating using newer hardware, because it will have more mature/stable x64 drivers. The bad eXPerience with XP x64 back in the day was mainly driver support/stability. Updates where also hand-me-downs from Server 2003 which also brought some bugs/problems. Using Server 2003 x64 was probably a better experience than using XP x64. I went directly from XP x86 to Windows 7 x86/x64, so I'm just recalling what I read from people experiences.
Agreed on all points! It was actually the same thought I had after the video went live while reading comments. Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
I had, and still do have Win XP on one of my computers, win 7 - 10 on the other 2 computers :). I will NEVER use win 11. Look people, before you start calling a dumbass. I PAID 199.00 for that Windows XP Pro when it came out :)
I say use what makes you happy!!! I still have a Windows 98 machine! Thank you for watching and commenting.
you must trying One Core API, maybe its can adding more compability into the x64 version of Windows XP
Hmmmm. I've never heard of One Core API before. It looks interesting. I may have to check it out! Thank you for watching and commenting.
well done
Thank you!
Great os 👍
Thanks for the visit!
I'm confused by your comment of the RAM being too big if a capacity to fit? In a 64bit OS RAM capacity is not a limitation like it is with 32bit systems. The maximum addressable memory of a 64 bit OS is theoretically 16 Million Terabytes, so I'm super confused. I have had windows xp 64 edition with over 8gb of ram working. So again, really confused by the statement.
I had to rewatch my own video to see what your statement was. Hehe. I didn't explain it correctly in the video. That ripjaws RAM, even though it is still DDR3, it can be problematic on older boards. I am not sure if it is the chip density on the actual RAM module or what... ("too big") Also, it is not listed in the memory QVL for this board as it is much newer RAM than this board is.
@kmprojects2023 That makes a lot more sense. Thank you for the clarification!
No worries! Your comment was actually great! It's a sign that I need to try and explain more clearly what I am doing while I'm recording. I'm still pretty new at this whole RUclips thing... so feedback is most certainly welcome and in fact, required!
NFS Porsche cool
I loved this game when I fist played it!
Yeah your memory is wrong. XP 64bit was my jam. Okay MF
Right back at you "MF". hahahahahahaha
But seriously, it seems the spilt between good and bad time with XP 64bit is fairly even!
I have that same computer case with a ryzen 7 1700 a rx 580 and 32 gb of 2666 mhz ddr4
It is a plain case for sure but I actually like it! I grabbed three of them when my work was recycling computers during an evergreening project.
nice video, but please, clean your monitor screen, is a little bit dusty ;-) 12:10
Hehe.. I should have called our channel "The Dusty Basement". Its an old house and everything always has a fine layer of dust on it! Especially in the basement.
@@KMHardware no worry and thanks for good content, subscribing 🫶
I sure do appreciate the sub!!!!!!!! Thank you so much.
would u give me that pc for free?
Hehehe. Maybe one day... but I've been hoarding hardware for years and years... it's a sickness!
@@KMHardware it was worth a shot lol
and it's not a sickness it's just u don't know when u gonna need them and that what smart people do
lol if you talk to my wife... She'll tell you a different story!
A well meant suggestion: Speak a bit faster/with fewer pauses, please. It might sound more natural or like a hangout. But for someone like me, who randomly clicked your video, it doesn't hold my attention very long if you hm and hah your way through the computer parts for the first two minutes, when this video seems to be about WinXP.
I thought it was fine. You need to watch less TikTok and RUclips Shorts, most people don't need subway surfers gameplay on the side and 30s videos to focus on things.
It's fine
I believe that's how humans communicate.
To be completely real.. I appreciate this type of comment. I very much hmm and haw too much. I hear it while I edit the video. To be honest, it's how I naturally talk... so hard to break the habit. Lol
With 100% unscripted videos, I am left speaking the way I always do.
I will say this though, the youtubers that speak at Mach 1 while screaming at the mic drive me nuts. I so don't want to be one of them. Thank you very much for watching and commenting! I am always so full of joy when a video gets engagement. It's a good feeling.
@@n646nJeez buddy. Jeez.
did you just spread the thermalpaste with your finger ? I mean using the cooler to spread or that thing is 1 thing but the finger
Hehe... I was waiting for someone to comment!! I have a little plastic spatula that I normally use but I couldn't find it. I am not a fan of using the cooler to spread the paste as you normally need to put way too much on for it to work reliably. Also, you really don't need much paste if it's pre-spread. So yup, a finger works well! Thank you for watching and commenting! It's truly appreciated.
@@KMHardware I mean I have no problem with it but then the finger is dirty and the paste everywhere
Oh!! Hehe. I just use paper towel with isopropyl Alcohol to clean off my finger after.
64 bit xp was the best windows o.s ever.
As much as I want to agree, I've had no end of driver problems and general incompatibilities with it. I think Windows 2000 is the best ever version of windows. No frills, all business.
Yeah, this is exactly what I remember too!
I got no doubt 64 bit was great but just 32 bit was far more comnon
It did not include the SetDEPProcessPolicy function, unlike Windows XP SP3.
I agree