Thank you for your video. For those who are unfamiliar with gold smelting process, the addition of pulverized glass melted together with scrap gold forms what is known as slag. The molten slag absorbs impurities from the gold which increases in its purity.
@@iehaningrad645 Thank you for your question. Silver can be purified by dissolving it in nitric acid. Then the silver nitrate solution is used in electrolysis whereby an impure silver ingot is connected to the anode and pure silver therefore gets plated onto the cathode. Similarly gold can also be purified by electrolysis which is known as the Wohwill Process. Impure gold is dissolved in Aqua Regia. In the electrolysis, an impure gold ingot is connected to the anode and pure gold therefore gets plated onto the cathode.
@@jesscorbin5981 Platinum melts at 3,215° Fahrenheit (equivalent to 1,768° Celsius) as compared to Gold which melts at 1,948° Fahrenheit (equivalent to 1,064° Celsius). To melt Platinum would require a much hotter torch such as an Oxyacetylene torch capable of 3,590 °Fahrenheit (equivalent to 1,980° Celsius).
Colega exelente la refinación del oro , me gustó mucho el vídeo uno va aprendiendo mucho y acumula conocimiento, " tan solo se que no sé nada" ( Sócrates)
الدهب عندما يخطلت بشوائب مثل القصدير الحديد يصبح غير قابل لسحب توضع له مادة مثل الدقيق تسمى البوتاس او مثل مافعل في الفيديو وضع البديل لذلك الزجاج وهو يقوم بنفس الوظيفة فصل الدهب على الشوائب وللعلم انا الفضة يحصل لها مثل الدهب وتعالج بنفس الطريقة ومعلومة اخرى على ماشي لاداعي لطحن الزجاج حتى يصبح مثل المسحوق
They just wanted to show an antique alternative to clean the gold. That's why they used glass. Otherwise of course they know about modern chemical alternatives...
I noticed you didn't measure that glass powder so I guess ratio isn't crucial but what approximately do you think the ideal ratio should be because you obviously have some sense of how much you want to put in there but didn't indicate what that is or how you determined it.
Would any other forms of silica do the same thing? Also worth mentioning I think that modern glass is different from the old school glass and different from but it glass and evidently whatever they put in that glass to make it green isn't a factor as I assume you could use clear glass blue glass or any other type of glass except maybe leaded glass and I wonder about the gold glass in the shielding for the Apollo missions to protect the astronauts from ultraviolet radiation and cosmic rays / ionizing radiation
1. Altın bozulmaz, ayrıca yorulmaz kullanım süreci içinde içine pislik, demir , parçacıkları toz halinde girer . Cam tozu evet bir nebze temizler ancak en iyi temizleyici Bor madeni yani Boraxtır...Ayrıca erime esnasında borax ile temizledikten sonra Nişadur denilen bir başk kimyasal toz da katılır oda madenin yumuşaklık almasını sağlar. Bu bilgiler 40 yıllık tecrübemdir.
the ancient goldsmith use brick powder and some amount of lead mixed with gold or silver to refine the same way video shows with glass powder,the refine result was pure gold and pure silver,if they want only pure gold they add salt powder to the melted metal,that take out the silver as a silver chloride.
yuğtupta geziniyorum altın eritme diye aratıyorum hem türkçe hem ingilizce. türkçe aratınca türkler çıkıyor altın eriten. 1000 derece potaya çıplak elle atıyorlar altınları. İstisnasız. Bir tane koruyucu eldiven giyen görmedim veya alet kullanan. Sanki o çıplak elle attığı için madalya takacaklar. İngilizce aratında da yabancılar çıkıyor. Hepsinde korucu eldiven, gözlük var. Her türlü güvenlik önlemi alınmış. Neden böyleyiz biz.
لايوجد ضروره لتكسير الزجاج يكفي قليل منه مع اضافه حبوب .براسيتول. واظافه حجر مطحون قليل .يعني هذه المواد الثلاثه كافي لازاله الشوائب .واذا لم تنجح العمليه عليك في تصفيتها واعاده تركيبه عيارها المراد من جديد تحياتي.
It attracts the lesser metals and impurities. Still do not have 24k at the end. Just the same karat 10k, 14k, 20, 22k. If you want pure gold you will need to use aqua regia, or cupel it
What exactly is the glass doing pulling out impurities or something like that because you pull it back out before it ever became similar to the viscosity of the gold and maybe I missed it but I didn't see you use any flux like boric acid either
çarşı çocuğuyum piyasayı tanırım kuyum piyasasında 80 sonrasında lapis öndeydi turistik mağazalar açtılar bir ermeni, bir musevi ve bir türk ortaktı bunlar ben küçük esnafla çalıştım mıhlamacı arto yapardı işlerimizi iyi ustadır zincirli han bizim merkezdir şu anda kanadadayız çarşıya selam
Ну и колдуны🤣🤣🤣В начале хотел сказать придурки, но сдержался. В своей зажни переплавил вдоль и поперек. Что только не делал… А работаю я с 1971 года. Есть способ, почистить загрязненное золото, но это делается с помощь медного купороса. Видео просто для болванов😡
@@arekgloba2781 есть случаи, когда метал засоряется, разными посторонними металлами, или влияет лигатура, когда перемешиваешь разные металлы от клиентов. В таком случае помогает бура, смешанная с медным купоросом. Одна часть буры и пять частей медного купороса. При плавке нужно перемешивать все и процедуру повторить несколько раз. Переплавил, прокатал и опять переплавляешь с медным купоросом. Если не поможет, весь лом золото переплавляешь с медью до 230-250 пробы, прокатываешь как можно тоньше и все в азотную кислоту. После разедания металла до выпавшего бурого осадка, все промываешь водой, бурый осадок высушиваешь, добавляешь чуть буры и переплавляешь. Получается чистое золото и можешь делать что хочешь … Все занимает пару часов
Ahoj Milane, kde tě jeden nepotká... Už mám malou muflovou pícku, budu zkoušet kupelaci nejdřív na stříbře... Na zlato si na první dobrou netroufám. Mám bismut, s olovem se mi pracovat nechce...
Gold24k & F.n.silver .9999 or .999 doesn't lose any weigh too it . other elements do burn way on 10k to 23k gold or Sterling silver 50%-92.5 . this video should clarify this point.
friend, so that this does not happen, you must create a lubricant if it is industrial, taladrina is used, an oil that is mixed with ordinary or distilled water. But for home-grade drawing or rolling tools that are not in continuous rolling, you must create dense amangama lubricants , Viscous or dense lubricants 1X1 cocoa fat and raffite powder = Viscous suitable for low temperatures. 1X1 Synthetic Acrylic Vaseline or Gynecological Vaseline and Graphite Powder This lubricant is good for hot days and chips . Roll damage occurs when one of the rolls does not rotate at the same torque as the drive roll. To improve the work, the chain sprocket and hydraulic sprocket gear system is eliminated. The total opening of the bearing guide erreje is a minimum rotational lamination of 0.12nm, a maximum of 12cm.
Çok acemice olmuş paşam potayı deviriyordun az kalsın borax daha kolay çözüm. Potayı oraya koydun madem kalıbın ısınmayan yerine döktün cam tozunu çok fazla döktün vs. Emeğine sağlık genede anlatım olsa daha iyi olurdu diye düşünüyorum. Eleştiri yapmam kendini gelistirmen içindir canın sıkılmasın buna o kulede nasil öyle bir çapak cikarabildin mesela 😊
Arkadaşın az bir mesleki bilgisi var sanırım. Yorumlarda ders vermeye kalkmış ama hala tam olmamış ham. 22 yıldır bu sektordeyim en teknolojik aletlerle Dünya ya çalışıyoruz ama yinede zevkle izledim. Her yiğidin yoğurt yemesi farklıdır. Video için teşekkürler
Где вы а где ювелирка?!🤭😁😁😁Ребята не позорьтесь.Хотя бы нормально плавить и заливать научились. Есть более лёгкий и эффективный метод очистки состава сплава без использования кислоты. Со стеклом ,вы то хоть сможете прокомментаровать почему так происходит или кто то показал просто не вникая повторяете ?
Thank you for your video. For those who are unfamiliar with gold smelting process, the addition of pulverized glass melted together with scrap gold forms what is known as slag. The molten slag absorbs impurities from the gold which increases in its purity.
Is it possible to clean slag with silver?
@@iehaningrad645 Thank you for your question. Silver can be purified by dissolving it in nitric acid. Then the silver nitrate solution is used in electrolysis whereby an impure silver ingot is connected to the anode and pure silver therefore gets plated onto the cathode. Similarly gold can also be purified by electrolysis which is known as the Wohwill Process. Impure gold is dissolved in Aqua Regia. In the electrolysis, an impure gold ingot is connected to the anode and pure gold therefore gets plated onto the cathode.
Does this work on Platinum?
@@jesscorbin5981 Platinum melts at 3,215° Fahrenheit (equivalent to 1,768° Celsius) as compared to Gold which melts at 1,948° Fahrenheit (equivalent to 1,064° Celsius). To melt Platinum would require a much hotter torch such as an Oxyacetylene torch capable of 3,590 °Fahrenheit (equivalent to 1,980° Celsius).
@@jadenephrite So yes
Aynı işlemi güherçile veya demir tozu ile de yapabilir diniz .bu islem de dogru.elinize sağlık
Adam zaten demir tozu kullandi aslinda . Soda şisesi yesil rengi demir iyonlarindan alir
@@zxcasd9912 teşekkürler bir şey daha öğrendim.
Fundi muito com salitre
Saludos, seria interesante poder pesar el oro ANTES y DESPUES de esta tecnica, para poder apreciar la merma del proceso. Muchas gracias.
Didn't realize that until I watched this. Thanks for explaining & demonstrating. Thumbs up!
*_TRUST !!_*
Minuto 1:35 ...Y sin gafas de protección, di que si machote bravo !!!!😱 Hete aquí el próximo candidato a vender cupones de la ONCE
Assolomu alaykom aka xormang charchamaybsizmi iloji bolsa toshda qandoq ajratish sirlari xam bormi kislatasis oldinda raxmat
Colega exelente la refinación del oro , me gustó mucho el vídeo uno va aprendiendo mucho y acumula conocimiento, " tan solo se que no sé nada" ( Sócrates)
Причем тут афинаж??он бракованную отливку отлил заново....
الدهب عندما يخطلت بشوائب مثل القصدير الحديد يصبح غير قابل لسحب توضع له مادة مثل الدقيق تسمى البوتاس او مثل مافعل في الفيديو وضع البديل لذلك الزجاج وهو يقوم بنفس الوظيفة فصل الدهب على الشوائب وللعلم انا الفضة يحصل لها مثل الدهب وتعالج بنفس الطريقة ومعلومة اخرى على ماشي لاداعي لطحن الزجاج حتى يصبح مثل المسحوق
مرحبا كيفك حضرتك بشو بتشتغل
اخ محكود كذلك يتم تنقيته الذهب بصهره واضافت حب الم الراس تفي بالغرض وعن تجربه
@@walidabomharm706 كنت صانع مجوهرات
@@احمدسلامعبيدالجميلي شكرا 🌹
With RUclips premium I could have translated this thread
Зачем так сильно греть тигель,)) почти расплавил,))??? Тигель... Для чистки золото используют селитру.. Реакция замещения.. Зачем бить бутылки)))).
Добрый день. Расскажите по подробнее как селитрой очищать метал - 585° золото.
Я использую поташ для очистки метала при плавке в буре...
They just wanted to show an antique alternative to clean the gold. That's why they used glass. Otherwise of course they know about modern chemical alternatives...
а серебро так можно почистить от шлака?
И всё же, что с селитрой делать!?
@@МаксимТабачинский-г3х , не понял сутки вашего вопроса ко мне...
Selam aleykum abi. Thanks for your videos. Can you make video about how to make gold solder?
Od pc motherboard a zlato moreş da zaradiş priyo gold lessons ovo turski zapişi
استخدم الكاديوم
I noticed you didn't measure that glass powder so I guess ratio isn't crucial but what approximately do you think the ideal ratio should be because you obviously have some sense of how much you want to put in there but didn't indicate what that is or how you determined it.
Would any other forms of silica do the same thing?
Also worth mentioning I think that modern glass is different from the old school glass and different from but it glass and evidently whatever they put in that glass to make it green isn't a factor as I assume you could use clear glass blue glass or any other type of glass except maybe leaded glass and I wonder about the gold glass in the shielding for the Apollo missions to protect the astronauts from ultraviolet radiation and cosmic rays / ionizing radiation
yo creo que no es para arreglar si esta roto o desgastado, mas bien este proceso es para sacarle las impurezas
Cuando la fundición está mal hecha y mal purificada es cuando sale las escamas en las láminas o ilo , na sacaron las impurezas de hierro..
Excelente vídeo gostei 🤗🤗🤗🤗
Wow amazing cleaning.
Depois do processo com o pó do vidro, o ouro sai com qual teor?
1. Altın bozulmaz, ayrıca yorulmaz kullanım süreci içinde içine pislik, demir , parçacıkları toz halinde girer .
Cam tozu evet bir nebze temizler ancak en iyi temizleyici Bor madeni yani Boraxtır...Ayrıca erime esnasında borax ile temizledikten sonra Nişadur denilen bir başk kimyasal toz da katılır oda madenin yumuşaklık almasını sağlar.
Bu bilgiler 40 yıllık tecrübemdir.
Always waiting for your videos brother keep them coming from the imperial co California.
Hangi asitle temizleniyor?
Vayyy . Farklı ve güzel video olmuş . Takipteyiz kral devam😎
Does it work for scrap silver?
نعم
the ancient goldsmith use brick powder and some amount of lead mixed with gold or silver to refine the same way video shows with glass powder,the refine result was pure gold and pure silver,if they want only pure gold they add salt powder to the melted metal,that take out the silver as a silver chloride.
*Excellent video!!! I love gold!!!*
Can silica be used instead of glass?
What's the weight before and after ,
Does this work on Platinum?
Use potassium nitrate (hindi name.. kalmishora..) during gold melting . Very easy and no west
yuğtupta geziniyorum altın eritme diye aratıyorum hem türkçe hem ingilizce. türkçe aratınca türkler çıkıyor altın eriten. 1000 derece potaya çıplak elle atıyorlar altınları. İstisnasız. Bir tane koruyucu eldiven giyen görmedim veya alet kullanan. Sanki o çıplak elle attığı için madalya takacaklar. İngilizce aratında da yabancılar çıkıyor. Hepsinde korucu eldiven, gözlük var. Her türlü güvenlik önlemi alınmış. Neden böyleyiz biz.
Pemurnian emas yang luarbiasa tanpa bahan kimia hanya memakai debu kaca sangat inspiratif 👍
camı boraks yerine kullanıyorsunuz sanırım eriyip altını canağa yapıştırmıyor.
لايوجد ضروره لتكسير الزجاج يكفي قليل منه مع اضافه حبوب .براسيتول. واظافه حجر مطحون قليل .يعني هذه المواد الثلاثه كافي لازاله الشوائب .واذا لم تنجح العمليه عليك في تصفيتها واعاده تركيبه عيارها المراد من جديد تحياتي.
Thank you. Wonderful video. I knew there was an old way just didn't know what it was. The chemical was the only way I could find.
Beautiful work ❣️
Nitric acid
Peki cam tozunu altından ayırırken altın firesi olmuyor mu ??
يحصل هدر لكن هي الشوائب الي زادت من وزن الذهب
Não entendi, é pra substituir o borax?
لا صديقي استخدمهم الاثنان
مسحوق الزجاج ينقي الذهب من الشوائب
@@احمدسلامعبيدالجميلي geralmente o bórax vira vidro e gruda na superfície do cadinho, ajudando a purificar os metais.
Great job well done sir
هل طريقة تفع فقط اذا خلط الذهب مع المواد العضوية
لكن لا بديل الا للحل في الحمض الملكي اذا خلط مع القصدير او الرصاص
Salam sizin iş yeri hardadı mən özümdə zərgərəm xalqlar dostluğu da
Kolay gelsin
Now all I need is gold lol ..loved the video that's was a eye opener
the same and better saltpeter and potash
Soda Beypazarı mı?
the ancient goldsmith use brick powder and some amount of lead mixed with gold or silver to refine the same way video shows with glass powder.
Great job👍
Usta güvercilede döksen olurdu sakın biraz potanın içine 🤨Yinede senin yaptığın işlem doğru 👍 tabi 🙂
Why not use borax?
Terimakasih atas Petunjuknya
Why use৷ the glass powder?
It attracts the lesser metals and impurities. Still do not have 24k at the end. Just the same karat 10k, 14k, 20, 22k. If you want pure gold you will need to use aqua regia, or cupel it
No need to go through that long proces in south Africa we use cleaning salts it does the same.We just buy it from our tool supplyers
Has Lin become gold?
No se podria fundir el oro viejo solo sin mezclarlo con vidrio?
هذه الطريقة فايدتها تنقيه الذهب من الشوائب
عندما تصهر الذهب لم تستفد شي الشواب لن تنفصل
هذه الطريقة فايدتها تنقيه الذهب من الشوائب
عندما تصهر الذهب لم تستفد شي الشواب لن تنفصل
هذه الطريقة فايدتها تنقيه الذهب من الشوائب
عندما تصهر الذهب لم تستفد شي الشواب لن تنفصل
Bilmediğimiz ne çok şey varmış bu madenlerle ilgili yorgun altın cam tozu gerçekten alakasız gibi duruyor ama ilginç yani
Thank you for not adding any stupid background-music.
What exactly is the glass doing pulling out impurities or something like that because you pull it back out before it ever became similar to the viscosity of the gold and maybe I missed it but I didn't see you use any flux like boric acid either
El oro no se desgasta. Permanece igual por siglos… cuec!
Muito bom nota 10000
Cok cok beyendimmmm
Sau khi nấu chảy và cho bột thủy tinh vào , có phải một phần đồng đã đi vao thủy tinh nên phần còn lại có hàm lượng vàng cao hơn ?
Cool but just get a box of borax for $2 US next time. Works way better.
Çok iyii
انت لم تجري عملية سحب السبيكة المنقاة من الشوائب في الماكنة لنرى هل نجحت طريقتك في ازالة الشوائب التي تسببت في تلف السبيكة
This process very nice but weist of time second option is gold exchange 💱 100 mg pr 10g exchange gold
çarşı çocuğuyum piyasayı tanırım
kuyum piyasasında 80 sonrasında lapis öndeydi
turistik mağazalar açtılar
bir ermeni, bir musevi ve bir türk ortaktı bunlar
ben küçük esnafla çalıştım
mıhlamacı arto yapardı işlerimizi
iyi ustadır
zincirli han bizim merkezdir
şu anda kanadadayız çarşıya selam
Ну и колдуны🤣🤣🤣В начале хотел сказать придурки, но сдержался. В своей зажни переплавил вдоль и поперек. Что только не делал… А работаю я с 1971 года. Есть способ, почистить загрязненное золото, но это делается с помощь медного купороса. Видео просто для болванов😡
Подскажите, а возможно бурой убрать, как бы так сказать в моем понимании "шлак "? Если автор видео хотел этого добиться с помощью битого стекла.
@@arekgloba2781 есть случаи, когда метал засоряется, разными посторонними металлами, или влияет лигатура, когда перемешиваешь разные металлы от клиентов. В таком случае помогает бура, смешанная с медным купоросом. Одна часть буры и пять частей медного купороса. При плавке нужно перемешивать все и процедуру повторить несколько раз. Переплавил, прокатал и опять переплавляешь с медным купоросом. Если не поможет, весь лом золото переплавляешь с медью до 230-250 пробы, прокатываешь как можно тоньше и все в азотную кислоту. После разедания металла до выпавшего бурого осадка, все промываешь водой, бурый осадок высушиваешь, добавляешь чуть буры и переплавляешь. Получается чистое золото и можешь делать что хочешь … Все занимает пару часов
@@gedasgold1986 благодарю вас за ответ.
هل يمكنني التحدث معك
Та да,без пузыря тут не разберёшься)
Skvělá práce ! 👏👍♥️♥️♥️
Ahoj Milane, kde tě jeden nepotká... Už mám malou muflovou pícku, budu zkoušet kupelaci nejdřív na stříbře... Na zlato si na první dobrou netroufám. Mám bismut, s olovem se mi pracovat nechce...
@@frantiseklaluch6605 😊 Jsem teď u vody. ⛏️😁
Prosta tozalab ligatura qvorsa boʻldiku qiynalmastan
Solución.....salitre y bastante bórax.......
That was interesting.
Zoraki işler olduğu belli dükkan demirci dükkanı gibi
Gold24k & F.n.silver .9999 or .999 doesn't lose any weigh too it . other elements do burn way on 10k to 23k gold or Sterling silver 50%-92.5 . this video should clarify this point.
Дышать стеклом очень полезно для здоровья, я слыхал
Ээтим способом мы пользуемся лет сорок открыли Америку
utilisé du borax et refaire un apport de metal ses bien aussi
This did accomplish something. Me getting off of RUclips ASAP
2022 👍🏻👍🏾👍🏼👍
Cam tozu eridipinde altına karılmıyornu
Dude where's your safety glasses?
OSHA would not approve
Potreste mettere i sottotitoli in italiano! Grazie
No comprende, el Turko.
very nice sir
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friend, so that this does not happen, you must create a lubricant if it is industrial, taladrina is used, an oil that is mixed with ordinary or distilled water.
But for home-grade drawing or rolling tools that are not in continuous rolling, you must create dense amangama lubricants , Viscous or dense lubricants 1X1 cocoa fat and raffite powder = Viscous suitable for low temperatures. 1X1 Synthetic Acrylic Vaseline or Gynecological Vaseline and Graphite Powder This lubricant is good for hot days and chips . Roll damage occurs when one of the rolls does not rotate at the same torque as the drive roll. To improve the work, the chain sprocket and hydraulic sprocket gear system is eliminated. The total opening of the bearing guide erreje is a minimum rotational lamination of 0.12nm, a maximum of 12cm.
普通的金屬冶金會加入硼砂和玻璃，原理應該是一樣的
只是黃金太珍貴需要精密的操作
Mettono il vetro e oro
Ciao che oro e parla Italy
similar to adding borax
no,borax only help to melt the metal,the glass powder purify, eleminate other metals than gold or silver.
معلومات قيمة
Nice video.
عالی بود💙👌
रसकपूर द्वारा भी कीया जा सकता है।
احسنت اخي
I'd melt it down .
Не чего не понял ...
Зато интересно!
Gerçekten kuyumculuğun yüz karası şalamoyla hangi devirde böyle altın eritildi nerede toz boraxx
Ayrıldınız sanirsam ?
Okadar eritin bir boraks serpmedin dereceye yağ dökmedin
Azərbaycan kanalıdı bu
nezaman benim neden haberim yok bundan :)
Questo non lo sapevo
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Dhanyvad
Çok acemice olmuş paşam potayı deviriyordun az kalsın borax daha kolay çözüm. Potayı oraya koydun madem kalıbın ısınmayan yerine döktün cam tozunu çok fazla döktün vs. Emeğine sağlık genede anlatım olsa daha iyi olurdu diye düşünüyorum. Eleştiri yapmam kendini gelistirmen içindir canın sıkılmasın buna o kulede nasil öyle bir çapak cikarabildin mesela 😊
merak etme kimsenin canını sıkabileceğini sanmıyorum :)
Arkadaşın az bir mesleki bilgisi var sanırım. Yorumlarda ders vermeye kalkmış ama hala tam olmamış ham. 22 yıldır bu sektordeyim en teknolojik aletlerle Dünya ya çalışıyoruz ama yinede zevkle izledim. Her yiğidin yoğurt yemesi farklıdır. Video için teşekkürler
I think 84 %
That's what BORAX is for!
Где вы а где ювелирка?!🤭😁😁😁Ребята не позорьтесь.Хотя бы нормально плавить и заливать научились.
Есть более лёгкий и эффективный метод очистки состава сплава без использования кислоты.
Со стеклом ,вы то хоть сможете прокомментаровать почему так происходит или кто то показал просто
не вникая повторяете ?