Without painting, the cage cost $1264.64 to build on his own (took 9 weeks). Your welcome Interweb :) *He suggests it would take $4k-$5k to hire a fabricator to do the same cage, without painting.
Hey bro, first video I seen of yours!! Thank you!!! Not a lot of people say how much they spend or even say soo much details about the build!! Thank you bro! New subscriber!!
In Poland you could easily build cage simmilar to this for 1.5k$ without painting. You might even do it cheaper, that's the price in one of the best brands ireco or vicars. The only reason to do it by yourself here is the satisfaction of doing it
Mad respect for doing all the work yourself. I’m thinking about doing a rally build down the road and I will 100% pay someone to do the cage for me, I’m not very good at metal fab.
Ethan Brandt my brother just built a 2nd gen rx7 over this past year and we had gary demasi (v8 rally ranger) do the cage. Depending on your location he may b a good fit if your serious.
Your channel is criminally underrated. Have you done anything else to the car beyond the cage? Do you have future upgrade plans? Or do you just plan on driving it till you're done then selling it?
Everything that is done to the car I've done, but I do have a lot of plans for it coming up. Mostly just making it more reliable and stronger to hold up to the abuse it sees during the rally events. I do want to build a 2WD car soon for rally though.
Damm nice! I think Im gonna try and build my setup too instead of paying like you say! I like the idea of learning. Yes its more time, but what the hell haha, small question? I think i saw your tube bender tool attached to the ground? Is it bolted? I never actually use that before ! Thanks and good job on the project! Its fantastic to see a build so well explained!
Thanks man, it's definitely the way to go as long as you have the ability and some of the know how before hand. Definitely don't want to completely learn how to weld while starting something that'll have to save your life. It is bolted to the floor, I put female concrete anchors in the floor so I can bolt it and remove it whenever and it won't have studs coming up from the floor to get in the way. You need a lot of effort to bend the tubes so mounting it securely definitely helps.
Love your build videos BTW. Crazy question.. So you for sure give me the military vibe. I noticed you had a hoodie with 8231 on it. I'm assuming thats your MOS?
A CAD model would be a good idea if you wanted to get the cage design approved before actually starting it, but unless you have very precise measurements of the car's interior car than it would be hard to design a cage that fits tightly. Doing all the measurements as you go will make it a lot easier to build a cage that contours to the interior as well as possible, giving you a lot more space in the car and a stiffer chassis. Saving all your measurements as you go and refining the cage dimensions in CAD would definitely be useful though.
I brought the car to a certified tech inspector that has the authority to assign log books to a car, I did the entire cage with his approval of the design and sent a lot of update pictures along the way. Technically it isn’t FIA approved certified, since we don’t use them here, but the cage is required to be built to their specs.
So many people underestimate, or maybe i should say overlook, the NA platform. I've got a rally x car that i plan to build to stage car spec in the next year or two.. I always thought id swap to a turbo platform but I've come to realize there is A LOT of room to learn in an NA car and most of all..the cost of running NA is wayyyy cheaper. it makes my goal of someday running stage rally a possibility whereas running a turbo car would be near impossible for me. (I daily a heavily modded forester sti and actually understand the maintenance and build cost of a turbo subaru haha.) check out our channel if you wanna see our little rally x build. our videos arnt nearly as well put together but its fun to throw together. I guess my point is its nice to see these facts weren't lost on everybody. cheers
@@rallysport4207 Novice drivers, as defined elsewhere, must use a Novice Restrictor on all forced induction competition vehicles over 1600cc, and all normally aspirated competition vehicles over 2700cc. Novices will also be restricted when competing in under 1600cc forced induction or under 2700cc normally aspirated competition vehicles with exceptional performance potential, as judged by ARA. Some examples of under 1600cc forced induction or under 2700cc normally aspirated vehicles with exceptional performance potential: a) Group 4-style Ford Escort or similar (Millington, BDG, etc.) b) FIA Super 2000 cars c) F2 Category cars d) R5 Category cars 3.7.2 Forced Induction Novice Restrictor When required for a novice driver, the forced induction restrictor used will be as described below. a) The restrictor must be located and have a minimum width as otherwise stated in RTR 4.2.5.1 (also applies to 2wd vehicle). b) The restrictor maximum diameter is to be 30mm. 4.2.5 Turbocharger/Supercharger Restrictions a) Forced induction engines must have an air inlet orifice of 34mm diameter or less either through manufacture or by the use of a restrictor. This restrictor must have a minimum width (parallel to the air flow path) of 3 mm and must be located within 50 mm of the compressor wheel. All air entering the engine must pass through the restrictor. yes you can......
You literally can’t run turbo as an amateur in most series. Once you get more experience you can swap a turbo engine in for the next season. But most series simply won’t let you race one.
Without painting, the cage cost $1264.64 to build on his own (took 9 weeks).
Your welcome Interweb :)
*He suggests it would take $4k-$5k to hire a fabricator to do the same cage, without painting.
cheers!
Good video tho
how much does it weigh?
Hey bro, first video I seen of yours!! Thank you!!! Not a lot of people say how much they spend or even say soo much details about the build!! Thank you bro! New subscriber!!
In Poland you could easily build cage simmilar to this for 1.5k$ without painting. You might even do it cheaper, that's the price in one of the best brands ireco or vicars. The only reason to do it by yourself here is the satisfaction of doing it
This is great information. I am going to start a build sometime this summer 2023.
keep up the good work! looks awesome so far
I think it came out great man! And love the videos keep em coming!
Cool video. I'm excited to build my own cage.
1/2 of a 4x4 sheet would be 2x4 not 2x2, btw.
Can you do a video on how you did your roof scoop? I’m very interested in how to do that
Mad respect for doing all the work yourself. I’m thinking about doing a rally build down the road and I will 100% pay someone to do the cage for me, I’m not very good at metal fab.
It's definitely a lot of work and a lot of tools needed for sure!
Ethan Brandt my brother just built a 2nd gen rx7 over this past year and we had gary demasi (v8 rally ranger) do the cage. Depending on your location he may b a good fit if your serious.
Finally. I have been friggin wondering that
Thank you so much for this whole build blog it’s fucking amazing
Your channel is criminally underrated.
Have you done anything else to the car beyond the cage? Do you have future upgrade plans? Or do you just plan on driving it till you're done then selling it?
Everything that is done to the car I've done, but I do have a lot of plans for it coming up. Mostly just making it more reliable and stronger to hold up to the abuse it sees during the rally events. I do want to build a 2WD car soon for rally though.
Damm nice! I think Im gonna try and build my setup too instead of paying like you say! I like the idea of learning. Yes its more time, but what the hell haha, small question? I think i saw your tube bender tool attached to the ground? Is it bolted? I never actually use that before !
Thanks and good job on the project! Its fantastic to see a build so well explained!
Thanks man, it's definitely the way to go as long as you have the ability and some of the know how before hand. Definitely don't want to completely learn how to weld while starting something that'll have to save your life. It is bolted to the floor, I put female concrete anchors in the floor so I can bolt it and remove it whenever and it won't have studs coming up from the floor to get in the way. You need a lot of effort to bend the tubes so mounting it securely definitely helps.
Wow he did a amazing job
do you know the weight added with the roll cage?
Great build been watching a long time. I know I'm into this a bit late but what sort of weight to you think is in an FIA cage..
Love your build videos BTW. Crazy question.. So you for sure give me the military vibe. I noticed you had a hoodie with 8231 on it. I'm assuming thats your MOS?
Very nice work!
Would you recommend using CAD software or is it just not worth the extra affiliated cost then just making it by hand?
A CAD model would be a good idea if you wanted to get the cage design approved before actually starting it, but unless you have very precise measurements of the car's interior car than it would be hard to design a cage that fits tightly. Doing all the measurements as you go will make it a lot easier to build a cage that contours to the interior as well as possible, giving you a lot more space in the car and a stiffer chassis. Saving all your measurements as you go and refining the cage dimensions in CAD would definitely be useful though.
How'd you go getting it FIA certified? Nice work
I brought the car to a certified tech inspector that has the authority to assign log books to a car, I did the entire cage with his approval of the design and sent a lot of update pictures along the way. Technically it isn’t FIA approved certified, since we don’t use them here, but the cage is required to be built to their specs.
@@DirtyGarage Thank for your very informative reply, keep up the good work.
How much weight does the roll cage add to the car?
I don’t remember the total weight but around 200-300lbs
You're doing sandblast?
That's the plan as long as the car is done in time!
can you post like a pdf link to the list ?
The list of prices or of the stuff I bought?
Pretty cool. I'm going to pay up to have mine done. I don't want to die because I did a shitty weld lol
67,415 ?
Or
674.15 ?
depdark1 I know it’s late but 674.15
That’s very cool
Wow amazing I love it #jensentungol #jennatungol food VLOG car VLOGS
Your steel prices are really cheap
First day racing crashes car
Probably
Do lambo doors next!
Haha if only the brackets didn't weigh about 50lbs.
It makes me so sad that you’re going to put a NA motor in that...
Maybe one day I'll go back to a turbo motor, I need to learn how to drive it properly before that happens.
Starting out in rally you can’t go turbo without some prior experience
So many people underestimate, or maybe i should say overlook, the NA platform. I've got a rally x car that i plan to build to stage car spec in the next year or two.. I always thought id swap to a turbo platform but I've come to realize there is A LOT of room to learn in an NA car and most of all..the cost of running NA is wayyyy cheaper. it makes my goal of someday running stage rally a possibility whereas running a turbo car would be near impossible for me. (I daily a heavily modded forester sti and actually understand the maintenance and build cost of a turbo subaru haha.) check out our channel if you wanna see our little rally x build. our videos arnt nearly as well put together but its fun to throw together. I guess my point is its nice to see these facts weren't lost on everybody. cheers
@@rallysport4207
Novice drivers, as defined elsewhere, must use a Novice Restrictor on all forced induction competition vehicles over 1600cc, and all normally aspirated competition vehicles over 2700cc. Novices will also be restricted when competing in under 1600cc forced induction or under 2700cc normally aspirated competition vehicles with exceptional performance potential, as judged by ARA. Some examples of under 1600cc forced induction or under 2700cc normally aspirated vehicles with exceptional performance potential: a) Group 4-style Ford Escort or similar (Millington, BDG, etc.) b) FIA Super 2000 cars c) F2 Category cars d) R5 Category cars 3.7.2 Forced Induction Novice Restrictor When required for a novice driver, the forced induction restrictor used will be as described below. a) The restrictor must be located and have a minimum width as otherwise stated in RTR 4.2.5.1 (also applies to 2wd vehicle). b) The restrictor maximum diameter is to be 30mm.
4.2.5 Turbocharger/Supercharger Restrictions a) Forced induction engines must have an air inlet orifice of 34mm diameter or less either through manufacture or by the use of a restrictor. This restrictor must have a minimum width (parallel to the air flow path) of 3 mm and must be located within 50 mm of the compressor wheel. All air entering the engine must pass through the restrictor.
yes you can......
Disliked because you put a single cam na 2.5 in it. Ridiculous.
What if I told you Subaru put that engine in the car from the factory 😮
@@DirtyGarage Subaru didn’t put that cage in from factory. Figure it out.
:O Let the hate flow through you
@@DirtyGarage Let the mediocrity flow through you.
You literally can’t run turbo as an amateur in most series.
Once you get more experience you can swap a turbo engine in for the next season. But most series simply won’t let you race one.