EW-DP ... here's what you need to know! | Digital Wireless System | Sennheiser
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Need wireless audio for your camera? Check out some of the standout features of our new wireless system, #EWDP, part of the Evolution Wireless Digital Family. We're breaking it down for you in this new video with Robb from our team. Read more about EW-DP below ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️
Time is measured differently on set. Seconds converted into frames, minutes into card space, hours into precious remaining daylight. EW-DP will change the way you think of sound on set. A wireless microphone system that puts time on your side by blending best-in-class technology with an ergonomic build.
Fully digital UHF guarantees cutting-edge signal clarity and reliability, and an innovative magnetic stacking system makes set-up a snap. Smart Notifications quickly identify missed yet critical problems, so you’re never caught off guard. Auto frequency coordination locates, organizes, and maximizes frequency usage with precision ensuring you find the most reliable signal in seconds. The Smart Assist app puts the control in the palm of your hand, allowing you to adjust your system at camera or across the room.
Whether you’re a crew of one or many, EW-DP is the ideal partner to simplify your audio workflow. After all, production has enough challenges; sound doesn’t need to be one of them.
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Good thing, but I am still waiting for EW-DP sound bag two channel version
Love this system! Just wished it was dual channel with the same size! Camera mount version but with 2 channel!
This Robb guy seems like a cool dude. 😎
👏💥 Solid info!
What's the range on the EW-DP receivers? For the EW-DP receivers, the website specified that they have a 330 foot range. But the website doesn't supply that one specification for the EW-DP receivers..
Hi great product but what's about my camera recording the audio?.... If it is not able to record 32 bits float? Do i loose the 32 bits audio files in the camera?
Hey team, wondering if this is compatible with Bodypack Transmitter EW-DX SK as I have already an EW-DX handheld and body pack kit so I should only but the RX portion of the EW-DP. Thanks
The Evolution Wireless Digital family is cross compatible across the different series of EW-D, EW-DP and EW-DX. An important note is that your EW-DX system has a larger bandwidth so the EW-DP EK portable receiver can only operate on a portion of the available frequencies on your SK transmitter (up to 56 MHz).
Hi we have been using the Ew system for years and feel the pinch of frequency loss. We travel a lot with shows in most states. We like the headset mics to avoid picking up sound from other sources. Do you have a package with headset mics?
Hi Todd - I also like using headworn mics whenever I can and usually have a Sennheiser HSP 4-EW with me anytime I'm giving a presentation. It's hard to beat the sound quality and consistency you get from a headset, plus they tend to be a lot easier to work with than lavs when you're using a PA. There is a headset option available in the EW-D series, the product name is EW-D ME 3 SET (Link: en-us.sennheiser.com/ew-d-me3-set). But there's also another option that may work for you named EW-D SK BASE SET, which comes with a bodypack transmitter and rackmount receiver - this can save you some money if you already have a preferred headset that you're using with your existing Evolution Wireless system. All the components in the Evolution Wireless Digital family are cross compatible, so if you'd like to add on the EW-DP EK camera receiver (as shown in this product video), that's an option for a compact, portable and battery powered setup.
Will the soon to be released EW-P SKP plug in transmitter work with the EW-D EM receiver, or will it only work with the EW-P receiver?
Hi Simon - yes, the upcoming release of the EW-DP SKP plug-on transmitter will be cross-compatible with the entire Evolution Wireless Digital family, including: EW-D, EW-DX and, of course, EW-DP.
Are the two systems EW DP and EW DX compatible with each other? For example receiver EW-DP EK (S1-7) and Handheld EW-DX SKM-S (S2-10)
The entire Evolution Wireless Digital family is compatible (EW-D, EW-DX and EW-DP) - just be mindful that the EW-DX system has a larger bandwidth (up to 88 MHz) than EW-D and EW-DP (up to 56 MHz), so double check your systems operate in the same range.
How does the EWDP compare to the EWD? Which is better for a singer? I understand both systems have very similar technology, EWDP being more focused around filmmakers, but as a solo live performer I carry around my own equipment (PA, mics, cables, mixer, etc.) so size is always a significant factor for me, the smaller the better. I would like to know if there is any pros or cons when using EWDP over EWD for live performance. My plan is using EWDP and a handheld transmitter with an E965 capsule.
Both systems use the same transmitter as they are part of the Evolution Wireless Digital family - so you’re fully cross compatible there. If you were to add the EW-DP EK receiver to your rig, you’d have the advantage of something much smaller, lightweight and battery (or USB) powered. The EK is essentially a shrunken down version of the EM rackmount receiver, but it lacks a 1/4” output and XLR output. You would be using the CL 35 XLR (included with the EK) to go from a locking 3.5mm output to an XLR connection and then into your mixer. The other con is that you can’t use an antenna system with the portable EK receiver - or remote antennas - like you can with the rackmount version. But for an ultra portable, digital UHF set-up that can utilize battery power… EW-DP is a very solid option. As mentioned, all the EW-D transmitters and receivers are cross compatible, so you can mix and match for instruments, lavs, plug-on transmitters and handhelds.
P.S. that 965 capsule is fantastic… great choice!!!
@@robb.blumenreder god bless u man, this is the answer I was hoping for, thanks
Did you end up getting the EW-DP setup for your rig? I'm considering replacing a couple of Shure desktop wireless units with a couple of these Sennheiser units. I am looking to shrink our rig for our duo setup that we have and am slowly looking to switch to more battery powered components like these. I was hoping these would work for live sound applications which is what brought me here. If you did get one, how has it been working out for you? Sounds like your idea is the same as mine and I was glad to read Robb's response. I had thought about this a few months back but passed on it because I bought some other gear. Anyways thank you for your response in advance! Again, this is for a live sound application either duo or small band. I have transmitters on Shure's side of things where I can change capsules and also looking to do that here with the Sennheiser transmitters since I also have 835s and 935s. Thx!
@@JHGurganus I am still working on getting enough money for the system, I'll be back when I have it
@@leomont0182 okay thank you I appreciate the response!
hello, i need to get in touch with a tech, my handheld mic is connecting to the reciever but no audio is coming thru
Hi @stilzink - sorry to hear you’re having an issue, but I’m certain we can help you out! If you visit the following link and then click “I need product support” and then “Pro Audio Wireless Microphone and Monitoring” our team will be able to get you back up and running. www.sennheiser.com/en-us/contact-us
I think this is what I'm after... are the antennas removable? I'll probably be using the EW-D / EW-DX SK body packs, it looks like the only difference between the two is the bandwidth?
My need is totally not the designed use. I do AV for wedding ceremonies, and currently have an EW-DX SKM mic running into an EM2 receiver, which then runs into an A&H CQ18T digital mixer. I intend to run the audio out into the SK body pack to transmit wirelessly to the EW-DP connected to a battery-powered speaker. Ideally I'd also want to use 1031-U antennas for stronger coverage.
Hi Ryan - addressing your questions in order here: the antennas on the EW-DP EK are not removeable, so make certain you get it high (on top of your speaker) and secure - there's lots of mounting options and you can use the 1/4-20 on the bottom of the EK to your advantage. The output on the EK is 3.5 mm TRS stereo - you don't need to use the included locking connector type cables, so you have some options here as well. When comparing EW-D and EW-DX transmitters, there are quite a few other variances (e-ink display, charging contacts, connector type options (3.5 mm or 3-pin), bandwidth, AES encryption, variable trim, RF Mute...), but for your stated application, I'd stick with the EW-D SK if you're pairing it with an EW-DP EK receiver. Another option for consideration would be to use an IEM setup like EW IEM G4 so you could take advantage of remote antennas from the transmitter and get better coverage; the EW-DP option will give you more much portability but sacrifices some of those accessory add-ons and you won't have the ability to incorporate stereo signals. If you do end up going with the EW-D SK bodypack, get it as high as you can so its not just laying in a case with your gear.
@@robb.blumenreder wow, thanks for such a quick response!
I did look into the IEM option. I sold my EW-G4 system for the DX; the dynamic range alone makes life so much easier when there are multiple people (with wildly varying speech volume and microphone handling techniques) using the one mic. Staying within the EW-D/DX ecosystem is desirable; interchangeable batteries is a plus and I can always utilise the body packs for other uses.
A digital IEM transmitter would be the real winner here (hint, hint Sennheiser)
Thanks again for the quick answers to my questions!
When using this in a wireless PA application with the SKP or body pack, what would you set the gain at on the receiver when using it to achieve wedding reception levels of volume?
Hi Kirby - assuming a line level output from a console, I'd recommend dropping the Gain on the receiver all the way down to 0dB, or even -3dB to give you a little more headroom for peaks. While you won't clip the transmitter side from your console output, you need to ensure the receiver doesn't clip the signal when it's converting your audio back through the D/A and on to your output. I'd recommend setting Gain to 0dB (or -3dB) and your Output Level to 0dB. You can use multiple receivers with the same transmitter, but only one receiver can be sync'd if you're using the app. This means you'll need to manually tune via the Frequency setting on the menu or make sure you select the same channel on your additional receivers so all your speakers are capturing the same transmitted audio.
@@robb.blumenreder Thank you for your reply and verification! To clarify, I can still use two different frequencies if I’m transmitting from two different transmitters (L and R outputs) to two different speakers, which each have a separate DP atop them paired with a different transmitter (L and R outputs) each?
@@kirbykracklemusic - yep! If you want to keep everything stereo, you'd need an independent set-up for each output channel, just as you noted. Keep in mind that while this certainly works (and people do it all the time...), this isn't the exact use case these products were designed for. Since it sounds like you're trying to stick with battery powered devices, this is a great option... on a larger scale system or where you're trying to cover greater distance, we would typically recommend using an IEM transmitter with a remote antenna set-up to a rackmount receiver that could also utilize remote antennas. With that in mind, best practice would be to ensure you aren't burying the transmitters in a flight case or stacking them right on top of each other. If you're using the SKPs, you could even consider hooking them up 10' XLR cables to get them up in the air a bit - line of sight is always preferred whenever possible.
@@robb.blumenreder Excellent! my usage will be audio out from a DJ station low level base plate left and right application for the transmitters, to the DP atop my speakers.
For the transmitters, do you feel that the SKP will do as good a job as the body packs for transmitting to the DP of is there a definite difference in terms of quality of signal?
@@kirbykracklemusic From an "ease of use" perspective, I would anticipate the SKP would be a bit more versatile for you considering it can take either XLR or 3.5mm input sources, which also let's you use it with any wired mic in the future if needed. There shouldn't be any difference in terms of audio quality, though the SKP does have an integrated low cut that can be adjusted - or shut off entirely - via the Smart Assist app; this would be very important so you're not accidentally rolling off your low end of your frequencies.
Robb. will Sennheiser be offering an upgraded wireless for the soundbag soon?
Hi there, not at the moment. Our EW-DP receiver was designed primarily for on-camera mounting with its built-in ¼-20 internal threads and magnetic mounting plate. While we do offer a belt clip that can attach the receiver on a sound bag, it’s not the designed use case for this particular product version. Please subscribe to our newsletter to stay up-to-date on the latest Sennheiser news: sennheiser.com/newsletter
Sounds like a good system. Is ist possible to use one mic with two receivers? For example, for using the sound on two cameras in parallel.
Absolutely! Just keep in mind that the sync process is done via Bluetooth Low Energy (as opposed to IR, like G4), so you’ll need to set the frequency on the second receiver manually… quick and easy on the unit or via the Smart Assist app
@@robb.blumenreder Good to know. Thank You!
If I plug this system into a 32bit float recorder, do I get the 32 bit float advantages (no clipping), or I am capped at 24bit (clipping still possible)?
Hi @V_SURF - This is a good question as it brings up some important clarifications with respect to the signal chain, even when using 32-bit recorders. To quickly answer your question, ANY 32-bit float recorder is only as good as the signal that's being fed into it so while the recording may be recoverable, the clipping can occur BEFORE it even gets to the recorder. In other words, if the microphone itself can't handle the SPL it's being exposed to, you'll be capturing the wonderful sounds of clipping with 32-bit resolution. With EW-DP, you have 134dB of dynamic range between the transmitter and the receiver. This was done so that you don't need to approach talent and set/fix/adjust gain settings at the transmitter like you would with EW G4... once that signal arrives at the receiver, you'll use the digital gain setting there to ensure the signal is passed through the digital to analog converter at an optimal level. If there's an issue, EW-DP will send you a Smart Notification on the screen (as well as in the app) telling you that you need to adjust your gain setting on the receiver and bringing you right to where you need to be to make the adjustment. Since you'll be coming out of the receiver with an analog signal via the 3.5 mm output and going into the recorder, clipping is still possible as we aren't staying entirely in the digital domain. This is why it's important to take some time to understand where the limits of your set-up come in to play so you know how to best set yourself up for success. I hope this explanation helps, but let us know if it requires a little more detail.
@@robb.blumenreder Wow my guy thank you for the detailed explanation! How important is it to set your gain settings at the transmitter at optimal level? Is it possible to add very little gain, and in post bringing it back up or will that introduce more noise? How does it all work out for someone who needs to record very quiet sounds followed by really loud sounds if I am a solo operator?
@@V_SURF- in an analog system (like EW G4), setting the gain structure correctly at the transmitter is quite critical to getting a quality result. If the gain is set too high, you risk clipping the transmitter input stage, too low and you'll have poor signal-to-noise ratio which ultimately degrades the quality. If you're coming from an audio background, this is all part of the basics of audio and it becomes even more important when you are working with RF gear... With the introduction of Evolution Wireless Digital, we're eliminating a significant problem area within the process of audio capture by removing the need to set gain at the transmitter, but that's just one part of the signal chain. You can set your gain levels at the receiver so that they aren't overloading when your loudest sounds happen and then feed the output of the receiver into your recorder, set to 32-bit. Remember, sound recordists have been working with 24-bit for decades and they've managed quite well without the safety net of 32-bit... but your example is exactly where 32-bit shines. Two things: 1) if you don't NEED to be wireless, your best bet is to move to a wired set-up and capture audio with a high quality mic that can handle the SPL required by your application, while having the lowest self-noise possible (for a shotgun mic, this could be an MKH 8060, for example)... and 2) if you need wireless, but want the backup of 32-bit recording, check out the EW-DP SKP plug-on transmitter as this has a built-in recorder that can give you the piece of mind if you clip later in your signal chain. We have a video product tour here: ruclips.net/video/pcHj7hIGHOU/видео.htmlsi=v8BuqzF5KaEhagAc I hope this helps!
Hi Robb and the Sennheiser team. I read and responded to a comment below about using the EW-DP units for live sound. My goal is to slowly switch over to battery powered / smaller yet reliable components for our live sound PA system. I'm considering purchasing two of the EW-DP 835 wireless handheld microphone systems for vocals. If I purchased a 3rd EW-DP receiver, which transmitter component would I need to purchase to use with my acoustic-electric guitar to transmit signal? If I'm able to do this for guitar, my goal would be to have the ability to have the same batteries and charging methods for the receivers and hopefully the same for the transmitters as well. If this line of wireless should not be used for live sound please let me know but again I'm thinking it would be with the same quality as the larger desktop or rack mount units - just in a smaller form factor. Thank you in advance!
This setup can certainly work if you’re keeping the units on stage with you or in close proximity (I.e. not trying to go to FOH that’s 100’ away with a bunch of people blocking your signal). They can all be powered by the same battery type, which is the BA 70 lithium ion battery. I would recommend picking up the EW-D Charging Set, which gets you a USB charging dock and (2) BA 70. For your guitar wireless, you’ll need to pick up a couple things: EW-D SK bodypack transmitter (IMPORTANT: this needs to be in the same frequency range as the receiver), you’ll also need an instrument cable for your guitar to the wireless pack (Ci1-EW)… if you’re going direct to the PA or into a pedalboard that will accept an XLR input, you’re all set with the included CL 35 XLR cable that comes with the receiver. If you need to go into a pedalboard or anything that’s 1/4”, pick up the Ci1R-EW and use this as your output cable from the 3.5mm locking output on the receiver and into your pedalboard (or amp/DI) input. As you get to larger channel counts or want to cover more distance, I would recommend using EW-D or EW-DX rackmount systems as you could then use an Antenna Splitter (EW-D ASA) and remote antennas (ADP UHF) to maximize your coverage. Definitely use the Smart Assist app to auto scan and deploy frequencies - this is really easy with Evolution Wireless Digital and with the equidistant channel spacing capabilities I would keep everything in the same frequency range so you can mix and match in case of emergency.
@@robb.blumenreder sir thank you so much for the complete and detailed response! You covered everything I think I need to know especially the guitar wireless instrument cable needed. Also, thanks for indicating to keep all the units in the same frequency range. Though I'm not new to wireless, I am new to Sennheiser wireless as I only have Sennheiser wired mics at this time. Yes we are mostly a duo but sometimes a 3 piece or more but whether we're stuffed in the corner of a bar or on a small or large stage, our mixer and current wireless units are close by. Again, I appreciate the detailed response thank you! 👍
@robb.blumenreder and @sennheiser.... I have 3 EW-DP systems in an ORCA Audio Bag. So far, no real issues on set. But, I recently tried powering all three units with a USB Power Bank, and only the USBC port was stable? Going USBA to C (22.5W output) only temporarily powered up the units and then they shut off. Is there a particular output rating per port that I need to find in order to power all three units from a single power bank? Do I have to use USBC outputs only? All cables confirmed working. All ports working. But plugging in a 2nd unit into the USBA port simply did not power the Rx. Thanks for any insight into this.
Hi Rene - this sounds like a potential issue with the power output of the power bank or that it’s not capable of providing the USB-C Power Delivery. To the best of my knowledge, most power banks will need to distribute power as you plug more and more items into them… the EW-DP EK requires the following for power via USB and its likely the USB-A port isn’t capable of providing the required power delivery:
USB-C PD power supply (max.):
• 5V / 1500mA • 9V / 900mA • 12V / 700mA
@robb.blumenreder thanks Rob. That's basically the same response I received from Sennheiser. What would be a bit more helpful, is what does 5V, 9V, and 12V equate to in output wattage, which is information that the power banks provide? Since 22.5w appears to not be sufficient, I'm going to need a power bank with pretty powerful wattage via USB-C. Suggestions on the minimum wattage for me to look out for (and exceed that minimum)? Thanks for taking time to reply Robb! I appreciate it!
@@renedefayette8828 if you could provide the name and model of the power bank you have, we could check the what the spec calls for on the outputs. You need to hit 5V (which is why the EW-DP EK spec calls for USB PD) - many power banks only output 3.7V, which could explain why the USB-A didn’t power the unit at all. I’m not an expert on battery technology, but found a Reddit thread that was pretty insightful and understandable that’s worth checking out (link below). When it comes to Power Bank options, I know that the Anker Prime series has USB-C PD outputs with 5V delivery, which sounds like it would be helpful for your application. If I can find some definitive suggestions, I’ll certainly pass them along though I’m hopeful some “hive mind” insights might help here as this was a good question that is likely common for bag users.
www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/gkc446/meta_please_understand_these_basics_of_powerbanks/
@@robb.blumenrederThe unit I purchased via Amazon is an Easylonger EL268LITE.
@@renedefayette8828 not a whole lot of documentation, but based on the information in the user manual (link below), it looks like the USB-A ports only hit 5V when used in tandem, and only the USB-C supports Power Delivery (5V) on its own:
cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0566/9604/5651/files/EASYLONGER_EL268_instruction_manual_-_2022.10.24.pdf?v=1666592986
7. The output voltage is 5V when the USB-A1④ & 2③ output ports are charging the device at the same time. 65W+22.5W at full output power when the TYPE-C② and single USB-A1④ or 2③ are charging the device simultaneously.
2. Charge your laptop & PPS support devices from the USB C port, which will support up to PD 65W(Max 33W for PPS). USB-A port supports up to 22.5W(SCP) max.
We need a Rode Wireless Go2 competition in Sennheiser
Yeah 32-bit is the new standard. Sennheiser needs to catchup
Is g4 better?
G4 is a wonderful system, but the future of RF is absolutely digital… the advantages are exceptional when you start comparing digital RF to the older analog tech.
Now digital IEM please please please
Thanks for the tutorial can I get one for free?
Way too big and no recorder!
Too bad the transmission power is much weaker than of it's predecessor with 10mW against 30 mW before.
Hi there, our EW-DP is able to achieve equivalent distance with less power output than G4 due to the lower carrier-to-noise requirements associated with digital transmission. So while this appears to be lower in the specification, it is not an apples to apples comparison. If you have access to both systems, a simple walk test using the same frequency should yield equivalent results (just be certain to not have both systems on the same frequency at the same time).
@@sennheiser yeah except that in the tests I saw so far a body blocking the transmitter will make the signal break already after 20-30 meters. That's not nearly as good as the G4.
@@patlecat RF performance comparisons can be a bit difficult to do and depend a lot on the environment you're in. That said, this is a really interesting one comparing different technologies that you might appreciate checking out. Doing some testing with 2.4 GHz (WiFi), 1.9 GHz, (DECT), Analog UHF and Digital UHF: ruclips.net/video/ev6woRBbp9A/видео.html