"You Just Gave Away Our Goddamn Position." - The Pacific (2010)
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The Pacific is a 2010 American war drama miniseries produced by HBO, Playtone, and DreamWorks that premiered in the United States on March 14, 2010.
The series is a companion piece to the 2001 miniseries Band of Brothers and focuses on the United States Marine Corps's actions in the Pacific Theater of Operations within the wider Pacific War. Whereas Band of Brothers followed the men of Easy Company of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment through the European Theater, The Pacific centers on the experiences of three Marines (Robert Leckie, Eugene Sledge, and John Basilone) who were in different regiments (1st, 5th, and 7th, respectively) of the 1st Marine Division.
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Mac calls for a mortar round on an enemy position nearby. Sledge heads up to the ridge to put a mortar into an enemy hut, per the Mac's orders. Sledge sights it, then calls down the coordinates. The first attempt is a miss. The second hits the hut. He tells them to mark the target. That's when a cry goes up from the enemy, and a ragged battalion of Japanese soldiers runs at them holding their flag aloft. (Fandom: The Pacific Wiki)
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That's more like a squad than a battalion.
I'd think the guy would have to be disciplined. Subordinates cannot be allowed to pick and chose what they obey, especially in a combat zone.
M-1 GARAND! BEST BATTLE IMPLEMENT THAT EVER HIT A BATTLEFIELD! "General George Patton.
@@JGray1968more like a team reinforced
Yes, the Pacific. Based off off two books: Helmet for My Pillow and With the Old Breed. The second was written by Eugene Sledge AKA Sledge Hammer.
"You just gave away our position"
Brother they were running right towards our position
You said what I was thinking
yeah like I think they know your position
Might of just been a scouting party to relay information back to a mortar crew.
@@inspectaslime a scouting party wouldn't charge at the enemy screaming
@@galiojusticejustice3191or carrying the flag
The dental hygiene in the marine corps before the invention of crayons was superb 😅
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@@MuhTranshumanroght Marines eat crayons…
That’s funny and I was in the Marine Corps
@@MuhTranshumanroghtit's a long-running joke among Marines that implies we aren't that bright. Btw, the purple ones taste the best.
@@oldesertguy9616 is it grape flavoured?
Sledge after surviving Jurassic Park, he grow up to be cold-hearted soldier
Marine
@@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 soldier
@@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970
He means in the textbook sense, not saying he's in the army.
Dang now I see it.
Holy crap that is Tim from Jurassic Park O_O f. me im old christ
Nicest teeth I've seen on a marine
Crayons hadn’t been invented yet
@@AsocPaladin0016 I know this is a joke, but fun fact. Crayola first made their crayons in 1902.
@@AsocPaladin0016 they ran out of crayons by the time they got to Okinawa
gotta keep up the groomin standards
@@MB_Biggie_Cheese It's probs why he's so pissed at everyone, ran out of crayons
That electric fence knocked something loose…Timmy is not okay!😂
Bro just doing his job no worries thats q normal day at the office
Bros never been to war of course he’d be crazy. But send him out alone since he want to be a liability
OH SHIT Joseph Mazzello from Jurassic Park!! I'd've never seen that had it not been mentioned.
@@Gutterboyofficialwhat he's referencing flew way over your head.
😂😂
One of the best character developments i’ve ever seen in live action. Bro goes from a seemingly wimpy kid who got some balls to a hardened soulless marine
Excluding the “damn near” and you got yourself a perfect soldier
@@vihuynhquang5204 u right because he was there
I know it makes sense and all with what they are going through but I couldn't help but cringe at his character here. All I can see is a grown man throwing a fit. Idk if it's just how it was filmed or the actor himself I just can't take his character seriously
@@vihuynhquang5204A hot head who doesn’t strategize and wastes ammo and doesn’t follow directions orders is a not a perfect soldier it’s a liability🤦🏾♂️
@@joecobb5520 I think that's kind of the point in this scene. He's sick of literally everything going on whether he seems childish or not. Sledgehammer's reaction here pretty much compliments the future scene toward the end of the series, when he breaks down in front of his own dad. (I think it's his dad)
But either way, his behavior here was unorthodox.
Sledge does have a point! After that firefight, seems likely that the Japanese know their position!
More like a turkey shoot, but yea. Good point
Yeah that officer is a fucking annoying pointdexter prick constantly threatening his own men with court martial etc. He was described as a political officer.
more like they had and idea since they were charging in their direction and had to kill them before they got to them so they at least knew what direction the marines where in if not how close
@@alextercarrera584 its cus at this point of the show they were in a stalemate, and both sides were relying heavily on mortar rounds to root out the enemies. So when their positions are given away theres a high risk of them getting blown to bits.
Not to the groups charging but to mortar teams on both sides.
Spoken like a Marine whose senses and humanity has been sanded raw by war's gritiest sandpaper.
War doesn't just take lives. It takes mens souls too.
@@vx1014the Japanese weren't exactly doing themselves any favors, raping women, killing children, burning medical camps, murdering prisoners of war, all standard practices for them and like with the taliban our troops took it personally.
😂
Well said! Very well said!
When you see death and destruction and suffering, you become dehumanized to the point where it’s normal, at some point, everybody going through war reaches that breaking point.
This is one of the best war series of all time. I LOVE this show. There isnt enough good shows and movies about the Pacific theatre.
That's the truth. Those men went through it and didn't get a fraction of the recognition that the European theater got.
Yep, another aspect of the European theater is that there was a "rear" to go to. The Pacific theater was nothing but battle. Even if you were sent the "rear", you were still on an island. An island that could still be overrun by the enemy.
Flags of our Fathers and letters from Iwo Jima were pretty good
@CIintB3ASTW0oD That's the great thing about the scene when Leckie gets dropped off at home. The cabbiesaid no charge because he recognized the difference in their war experiences
Because it was an entirely pointless theatre
Officer be like: oh you'd use your hands? Here ya go, here's a knife. Don't let me catch you with a rifle in your hands.
And then he got fragged in his foxhole in the middle of the night
I can imagine an angry marine sergeant scream at my face.
@@jameshailerthepostmaster4389 If you completed Marine boot camp you would be used to it.
@@jameshailerthepostmaster4389 Do you know why Marines yell? It's the only way you gonna hear any orders when the bullets start flying and the bombs start bursting.
@@thepatriot7639 also, it get's you used to chaos and cacophany. if you can survive the shock and stress of a "shark attack" of drill instructors yelling and knifehanding at you at the top of their lungs while right next to you, all barking different contradictory orders and expecting you to comply, you likely won't be as phased by the random screams, gunshots and explosions of the battlefield, or by orders shifting rapidly as the battlefield conditions change on the fly.
Those velociraptors made him the man he is
Should've turned the light off..
This just made me realize who the actor is.....
Holy shit!! Little Timmy killed dinos AND the Japs.
This is actually his grandpa. He inherited the survival genes.
Normally I don’t like call backs like these because they are all corny marvel/superhero related ones but I got a good chuckle out of this
Sledge's journey before the war, during, and after is something truly remarkable. Prior to joining the war, Sledge was an idealistic young man that wanted to serve his country. During the war, he is hardened and loses his humanity. After the war, sledge's trauma sets in and he wants nothing to do with war ever again. He even gives up hunting after he leaves the service.
The kid from jurassic park went ballistic after encountering those raptors!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Damn, I *thought* he looked familiar.
No kidding?
Oh shit lol that’s him
Hot damn, never knew that
That tends to happen. 🦖
"You just gave away our position"
That's the stupidest thing you could say after just firing like 50 rounds.
They were never supposed to open fire to begin with, they were the scouting party for the mortar crew
@@grey9803 The mortars were already fired and have hit their target.
The japanese soldiers running towards them are the survivors of that mortar attack.
They know exactly where they are so it makes no sense saying they gave away their position when they clearly already knew exactly where they are.
The Japanese don’t use revolvers and the sound of a revolver is not the same as the sound of a rifle or semi auto pistol. The Japanese could more easily tell if it was the enemy rather than their own by that sound. Using a revolver was like blaring “WE’RE THE AMERICANS” on a loudspeaker.
Additionally it’s a lot easier to isolate and locate the source of slow successive gunfire from one gun than an abrupt volley of gunfire from different guns.
It’s real easy to say “erm akchually” instead of having some humility and thinking ‘these guys obviously aren’t stupid there has to be a reason he was so pissed at him for continuing to shoot’
The way this moment comes back to bite him is heartbreaking.
Imagine going on about how much you want to kill the enemy, only for your humanity to kick in and comfort the dying mother of a orphaned baby from the enemy, then having your hypocrisy called out when you protest your comrades executing dying survivors.
Coming back from a war after being brainwashed into becoming a cold-blooded killer toward foreigners, and then realizing just how much of a monster you were made into, has got to be one of the worst aspects of post-war recovery.
“You just gave away our goddamn position!”
My brother in Christ, they were charging straight at us
CHRIST SHALL CONQUER
speaking of forcing potentially opinions onto others, happy pride month!
@@milkkkc377you good
@@milkkkc377
There is some truth in what you say, but Juadizing is also a mistake, putting an obsolete burden on the wild olive graft.
It’s also ironic in getting essential liturgics very wrong.
The Orthodox Church is the correct balance.
A Ukraine Star Wars pfp…..
I cried, when Sledge went hunting with his dad, and he couldn't hold a rifle anymore....
The way he cried when his first C.O. was killed by a sniper.
Ack ack was the man. My god that scene hit like a goddamn freight train
In real life his Dad encouraged him to take up bird watching instead of hunting due to him no longer wanting to be around death and resulted in him becoming a biology professor
How do you cry during a movie
@@rustys.1070Because these were real stories of real people portrayed very well.
I would’ve done same if Ack Ack was my CO. He was good officer and a better man. He wouldn’t ask anyone to do anything he wouldn’t do himself. It wouldn’t be hard following him into battle; because it would be an honor.
Seeing him go from a timid mortar man to a cold blooded killer was amazing.
This moment is essentially the peak of Sledge's character arc in this show. He has reached a point where he is no longer phased by the cruelty of the war, and is easily among the most experienced and skilled Marines in his division. At the same time, so little of the kindhearted person he was before still remains, and it wouldn't be until the scene in the farmhouse that he begins to heal and regain the humanity he lost along the way.
I should note that this is regarding the character of Sledge in the series, not the actual person. While the real Eugene Sledge went through many of the same experiences and changed in many of the same ways, his personality is of course infinitely more complex than that of a fictional character. It is neither scientific nor ethical to oversimplify changes in real people's behavior to concepts like "character arcs."
You wrote all this?
@janda5816 ...I literally specified I was talking about the character of Sledge in the show, not the real person. That was like the main point of half my comment. How'd you not catch that?
@janda5816bro actually somehow missed the entire point... truly I'm astonished.
Fazed not phased
@virgil9303 It's not that long dude. 😂
"They're uh... they're flocking this way."
That's a nice reference take my like
I never noticed that it was the same actor until i saw this comment.......
Oh shit it is WHATTT
Little Timmy?@@terraoftime
Just blew my mind
Immediately id just be like “discharged. gtfo outta here” lol
“Wait…Wait till they’re close.”
Such a cold line from a Marine who’s seen the worst of war.
Not them running slowy with a damm knife
"don't shoot until you see the white of their eyes." Sure I read that in a manual somewhere.
@@raderblox6467they actually did that shit in ww2 (the japanese) look it up anywhere, this isnt propaganda they actuslly did that shit. this whole show is based off of memoirs of marines
@@jackjohnson6752
Penguins of Madagascar
It’s not cold because the Japanese would kill them. They are at war and suspicious is clearly the issue
These last few episodes of the Pacific go hard because you see Sledge finally go over the edge and lose his innocence that he had at the beginning of the show after being exposed to the cruelty of war
He was never meant to go to war.
@@lacombar For people like Sledge, it's better if they experience war even if it pushes them over the edge because the alternative is regret and self-loathing.
Mickey milkovich being kind😂
This was right before (or maybe during the first seasons) Shameless, I think.
Imagine the Shameless Director giving cues: "OK... yes, but add a little more 'Crazy Marine' and a LOT more 'flaming homosexuality' next take." 😂
Both amazing roles for an amazing actor!
Joseph Mazello did just a spectacular performance here as Eugene Sledge and proved he wasn't just famous as a child actor in Jurassic Park and Star Kid
@TomNelson80
-No one, ever
Those dinosaurs sure traumatised him.
Here at Japrassic Park we spare no bullet
Also as John deacon in bohemian rhapsody
O shit, so hes the kid that got electrocuted in Jurassic Park? 😂
The scene where Snafu was nonchalantly tossing pebbles into the blood flooded cranial vault of a Japanese soldier was very unsettling.
Great series.
“You just gave our position away!”
“Good.”
Now they can come to us!
@@muridtahmatgnas2184 He was referring to the Japanese mortar teams.
@@tenjenk they already knew
@@mockdr They didnt, because this was during a stalemate where neither knew and both sides were bombarding each other with mortar but were blind to each others positions. They were making blind bonzai charges to draw them out so mortar could zero in on them.
If he kept making noise, they would have figured it out from afar. If they already knew, sledge and his unit would be covering their positions in a 30 x 30 area as fine mist and chunky pasta.
🤣🤣
Both Leckie and Sledge gave the Coup De Gráce with pistols in different episodes
Leckie did it to end a man's suffering. Sledge did it because he was a racist psycho and a weak man.
Coup de grâce* my friend
@@reg1mbald294shut up
Definitely. I do like the fact that based on perception alone they're very similar scenes, but circumstances wise they're quite different, in that in Leckie's scene it was a merciful kill, whereas in Sledge's scene it was more ruthless if you know what I mean?
@@reg1mbald294 thank ya buddy
For all you who don’t know, that’s the little kid from Jurassic Park lol
It’s always been crazy to me how militaries around the world will train their soldiers to be ruthless killers and are surprised when they are just that.
They expect you to follow orders
you are trained to follow orders, and you are desensitized to violence on purpose. But the rest is who you are. Human beings are violent. We just don't like to be.
@@dancollins2568True, though of course, some Humans seem to enjoy violence and killing, like some psychopaths for example.
Wrong. Many militaries emphasise not breaking the rules of war. Any soldier of modern times can tell you this.
@@wowalamoiz9489and just how you said wrong, well sorry bud you’re extremely incorrect and wrong 😊
The balls on the Japanese to charge a position on higher ground with swords and bayonets.
You spelled stupidity wrong.
You call it bravery, it was fanatical savagery.
Stupidity...lol
Animal have different mindsets
There's a difference between courage and intrepidity
the Pacific is truly a masterpiece of a series showing how it like in the Pacific Theatre
The airfield assault was realistic
This was the boy from Jurassic park??
I didn’t even put that together!
Bohemian Rhapsody
@@rockridgewoodshop Both.
OMG. I thought he looked familiar. He doesn’t ever say the line ‘d’yer think he saw us?’ in this does he?
Both Sledge’s actor and SNAFU’s (Shelton) actor are both in Bohemian Rhapsody.
This is the point where sledge goes full marine. Exactly what his dad said he feared
"I´d use my hands if i had to" Well buddy, you´re one war too late.
Oh there was PLENTY of hand to hand in WW2
At this point sledge is battle harden and then this new co comes into play and almost seems like he doesn’t have much combat experience compared to his men and I think he realizes in that moment just what these men have been through
Not really a new CO, this is Lt. Scotty McKenzie, who had been with the company since just after Peleliu. He was a problematic leader in some regards, because he was new, but other K/3/5 memoirs say Sledge was too hard on Scotty in With the old Breed, and overall he was an effective leader on Okinawa.
Also, this scene is entirely made up and never happened in any memoir from K/3/5, so there’s that too.
Should read his books.
@@matthewmeador9565The scene was probably done to show sledges arc
"You just gave away our gd position!"
"ILL FOOKIN DO IT AGAIN TOO GD"
Conor McGregor, is that you?
Haha geometry dash loooool
"Who da fook is dat guy?"
Sir we haven't moved an inch on two weeks....they know where we are.
That officer immediately realized what kind of man he was dealing with at the end. And he looked absolutely terrified
Rightly so! One more stupid remark ............
@aleccrombie7923 as soon as possible he needs to be sent to the hospital. The point is he disobeyed orders and suffers from PTSD. He can easily get others killed. Good order and discipline is a must. That said, this was a terrible conflict. My father was a Marine at 17 and went to the South Pacific in 1945 and definitely was marked for the rest of his life, wounded with shrapnel from a landmine.
@@steffannystad at the time they dont have any idea about mental health, which is sad.
@@steffannystad I don’t disagree with you, but at that time peoples mental health really wasn’t taken as seriously as it is now especially in the service if you got labeled as having battle fatigue, you were labeled not fit for service they saw that is weakness so unfortunately, for Eugene sledge, he had to wait until he had the ability to sort all that crap out
@seanm7539 agreed. It was a very tough time for mental health. Obviously, we see how Patton responded.
The Pacific is criminally underrated
Yeah, it's definately one of my favourites. I think it's a great Sea.
The first time I watched it, I was expecting BoB, but in the Pacific, so I was disappointed. I waited about 10 years and watched it again, and I was able to appreciate just how brutal, and dark the show was. Showing just how much different the two campaigns were.
@@wreck2 that’s the issue. Reminds me of how people expected The Thin Red Line to be like SPR but in the Pacific but were disappointed
"criminally underrated" bruh it won peabody award, how is it underrated. Just because your one friend doesn't watch the show, doesn't mean the show is underrated. It was literally talked about in almost every media before and after the first episode.
@@diy1367 talk to me when you drop the smartass attitude
Amazing mini series!! This and Band of Brothers were very excellent
This ain’t even Band of Brothers, brother😭😭
@@phantomrabbit2002 yeah he just said it was also a good series brother.
@@phantomrabbit2002 That's why I said "this" as in The Pacific and Band of Brothers are excellent mini series
@@ATRAX-ce3gj ohhhh im sorry I missed that😭
@@Predwyn_the_Swole yeah my fault I didn’t notice that, brother☠️😭
I love how hes telling him to cease fire while there are enemies literally charging at them
The enemy charge had clearly stopped by the time he told them to cease fire.
Right. It's kill or be killed. If he had listened to that order, he might've died too.
@@chrislee5362you idiot when the commanding officer gives the order you just listen, there are reasons why he gave the order, if you disobey the order you can put your whole company at risk.
@@chrislee5362 Agreeed and indeed
So you watched the video with your eyes closed?
“I think they got a pretty good idea of where we are.”
Uh, yes. He did say that. People quoting the short we all just watched fishing for likes is actually pretty lame.
@@gixxer6rdr229 I never fish for likes. I just like the quote. Cunt.
@@gixxer6rdr229 get a job
@@gixxer6rdr229 should fit right in with the rest of your life.
What’s that from?
what suprise me was that Eugene was so eager to join Marine, n then he's becoming soulless human like we seen in these scene. truly, war did change our very own human core.
That one friend: "im not racist but..."
asian people? *TSAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
I was told by a black person that it's not racist when it's to Asians.
This country is so phucked.
Youve probably said that exact prefix more than any of your friends
@xxxzachyd960 probably. But to answer that, it's a no. Me and my family is very multicultural and I have no ill will towards any race and see everyone as equal
The part of town where we all had gold and big guns we sold dope out of a pizza place, I remember abc news coming to do a special on how these 12 _13 15 yr old kids took over a shopping center we were a bunch of stick up kids for that one friend and hacker who keeps on insulting and making jokes on Michael's death I promise I will woop your ass , when you see me stay quiet look down as you always do ,once I was blind now I can see yall put me in jail in hopes I would be put away so you could keep over 50 racks of mine. Change of plans Pomona superior found me innocent, Jesus freed me and I stood humble and patient not one person ever been to jail cause of me and if some wannabe gangster says different ask him why he ain't ever did anything but it cause it never has happened I don't owe anyone never told on anyone never been wooped and never let any man I was with to drown I broke bread , having lost my son and wife in the same year you bet I was depressed having you guys set me up and put me in jail yeah I was depressed having my friend Richard throw me out to the ocean to drown yeah that hurt but I'm alive
“You just gave away our god damn position” might be the dumbest thing I’d ever heard.
He had to come up with some kind of reason for his silly order.
Shave tails are never bright.
@@LegendaryFox21 he’s the same guy that tried to get mad a Sledge for looking at that donut dolly.
If I remember right Sledge hated this particular nco and the guy made many stupid decisions. His loathing really comes through in his book
@@michaelmemmott1050 you sure if it’s this guy? He’s a LT
The character development in this series is just top quality.
Loved this series. Best account of being a Marine in WW2 ever. Captain America is in this for real.
You leave him because a wounded soldier is a huge drain on your enemies resources.
They don’t care
The Japanese would not have cared for him. He would have been left to die in that battle. Many were. You were expected to die "honorably" for the emperor. Returning wounded was the same as retreat to them.
The most wounded soldier here is Sledge.
Only if the enemies doctrine is to save their wounded.
During the Battle of Okinawa, was isolated from the mainland and lacked the manpower and resources to treat the wounded.
No one would willingly abandon those who fought for their country
Sledge was on the edge.....he had enough.
I couldn't imagine having the same mindset as a frontline marine fighting in the Pacific, it's something almost no one can understand today bc of how fortune we are to hav nvr had to experience the kind of horrible things they did.
They had Fixed Bayonets Charging... he maybe sick in the head but he wasn't wrong.
Repeat half of the people we killed where my gang memebers 😭 I didn’t know they was on and they put bounty’s on them so we went after them
Brand new uniform LT chewing out a war torn uniform Marine
Sigh. Wrong. And Sledge disobeyed an order.
@@Muschelschubs3r I mean yeah no shit
@@Muschelschubs3rdon't think i would give a fuck if i was sledge. This is why americans die much more often then other soldiers. You follow instructions by the letter and you got yourself a recipe of getting killed. There IS a reason why smaller nations have military forces that are high on the tier list cuz their soldiers can act on their own accord if they deem nescesary, despite commanders orders. They follow orders until said orders make no fucking sense.
The "cease fire" made no real sense. A dutch or german soldier would be a sledge and not listen. Just cuz ur a commander or captain or admiral doesn't mean you got full control over the human beings you order around. Ur not a puppeteer and they are not your puppets. Murica is strong. But individual soldiers who follow orders by the letter are just walking corpses without knowing yet
@@Muschelschubs3r Well done *Sigh* nobodies saying he didnt lol.
@@Muschelschubs3r I think this dude is based off a man Sledge knew as "Lt. Shadow" from the book, guy was an absolute cocksucker if I remember right. Yeah he disobeyed an order but Eugene had 0 respect for the man and his leadership
OK, Stable Defussion. Write me award winning dialogue of two American soldiers arguing in a WW2 trench.
"GODDAMN!..."
Yo what is Mickey doing there ? Lol
This series is perfection. It’s such a good accompaniment to band of brothers and how different the European war was compared to the pacific war.
I get what you're saying but the European theater varied greatly though. I would argue that in certain ways, the Eastern front was even worse than this. Both sides often didn't take any prisoners.
@@JGD185 oh for sure. The technological prowess of the Wehrmacht was horrific. Imagine running into 4 MG42’s
@@cody7259 That, and the Germans/Nazis despised the Slavic peoples and pretty much intended to exterminate many of them to create "living room" for Germanic peoples (from what I have heard/read). And after facing such cold-blooded slaughter early in the war, the Soviets were happy to return the favor once they were on the offensive. The big difference is in the *western* European front, which was perhaps less brutal in comparison because the combatants (by and large) did not despise each other with every fiber of their being and were much more likely to take prisoners.
@@markwilhelm4093your history might be off. Soviets committed slaughters first. Specifically Katyn.
First that wasn't directed against Germans afaik and second the mass executions of opponents to Soviet rule are a different matter from the subhuman atrocities commited by the SS against masses of civilians
these comments are really concerning
all of you are missing the point that Sledge has been ruined and corrupted by war. Instead you all choose to glorify his mental suffering
It is the same reason, why so many of us want the war in Ukraine or the Middle East to yet again escalate.
War is hell. And it changes men.
There is no glory to find in it but when you save your comrade.. that shouldnt be there to begin with.
Lol, in war we need these kind of killing machines. That's why LT spiers flourished. War and armed forces attract a particular kind of men, if you know what I mean.
Honestly, thank God there aren't a bunch of softies in the comments weeping over Sledge's frustration and trying to make him feel "seen" and "validated" and all that
Nah, as anguished as he was, he did right and he spoke facts. He's a hell of a lot more competent than the boot LT trying to chew him out
@@jjhh320 I get where you are coming from. I missed it aswell in Bootcamp, that we were treated rather soft, compared to the earlier days.
Anyway.. i think one must differenciate between harsh training and combat and simply killing / executing hurt soldiers.
There is no honor in that. And let alone where is your compassion at this point.
@@AdrianDeerWhen you have a military that performed experiments on civilians that would have made Mengele blush, you tend to lose compassion pretty quickly and rightfully so
Boxer rebellion be like
Sledge was far better off making that final point alive than dead.
I guess Mickey didn’t handle the breakup with Ian very well
I never knew he was in the pacific until this clip right here. I was so confused when I saw him. Shameless is my second favorite show behind the pacific
I agree that the "giving away our position" idea was dumb, but the bloodlust and drive to kill for the sake of killing puts me off. In war, death is inevitable. That doesn't mean you have to love it.
Seeing his transformation from being young and innocent at the beginning to becoming "sledgehammer" was a remarkable experience when I was young. I love rewatching this show!
Sledge was easily my favourite in the show. This young dude who cried in his room because he couldn't go to war with his friends turned into this mud covered veteran who'd in his own words kill another man with his bare fucking hands. I gotta read his book, every time I think shit's rough I always think "well hey, at least I'm not Eugene Sledge".
Highly Recommended and easily one of the best memiors I’ve ever read. They do make some changes in the series from the book though. Another one you should read is “Islands of the Damned” by R.C Burgin (Sledge’s NCO in the series).
I still need to finish it but the audible book is read by Eugene’s actor Joe. So that’s pretty cool too. I’m near the tail end of his time on Okinawa and if there’s one thing that surprised me, it’s how much the shows big moments rely on Sledge’s firsthand accounts. Even elements I recall in Leckie’s story were actually Sledge’s. To say With The Old Breed is one of the best, and most detailed war memoirs of all time is an understatement. The book was essentially written in his bible in the form of a diary. So the littlest details were captured day to day. Then, in 1946 he began developing his diary into a book with more detail, while it was still fresh in his mind. With the added knowledge after the war of what his regiment was actually tasked with doing, he provides some context to their movements that he wasn’t privy to as another grunt. What you get is a book that feels painfully recent…
Brother, his book is great. I listened to it on audio books. You should check it out.
Then he came home and went to college, and became a college proffessor. One hell of a man.
So thats where mickey went
Sledge, leckie, chuckler, etcc... The list goes on in the thousands.. we're so lucky to have had men like that!
Most of these guys have been together since Guadalcanal or like sledge Peleliu which is still a long time and they have seen a lot of combat and death. An officer coming In to lead these guys is not an easy thing to do
"You just gave away our position!"
"Yeah thats great, but now they know where I can send them all to hell"
I understand Sledge but disobeying order's doesn't mean you're right all the time putting you're Company at risk.
Yeah he giving away their position to jap mortar. Those japs he killed nothing more but blind Banzai charge to find enemy position.
Did japanese kill his family whats going on here
@@MuhTranshumanroght Learn history. Japan gave US ideologically perfect opportunity to enter war on the east. Casting aside assumptions Pearl Harbor was a setup, It allowed US to enter war not from position of aggressor but as retaliation for good men who died in that attack. It is natural many US soldiers basically hated japaneese and the fact that on battlefield it is you kill or getting killed and the things japaneese did back then didn't help much to make picture better.
@@masterofoffending3908 That is not what he is asking. By this level of vitriolic hatred you would think that Japanese soldiers raided his city and killed his family. Other soldiers kill because they have to kill or be killed, but this one kills because he wants to kill. Two very different things.
Doesn't make him wrong either. Just shows how hard it is to make the right call. Because there isn't one.
Fast forward till 2024…
*Somewhere in the US*
..Hunny I was thinking we could order some sushi for dinner 😂
In the end he regain his humanity
That is the most emotional
Father and son relationship
"The Pacific" was the best show
ever
Nah. Had no emotional effect compared to Band of Brothers. It was ok. It should have been better. It could have been if they had invested the time into it, like they did with BOB.
Felt more like Diet Band of Brothers to me tbh
@@DS..69it had a massive emotional effect. The Pacific focuses more on how war can wear down a persons mental state, like with Leckie and Sledge, whereas Band of Brothers is more about the bonds that are formed in combat. You can’t really make a similar style show to BoB with The Pacific since they were completely different theatres with completely different obstacles.
BoB is a great show but in a completely different way, so it’s not really fair to compare them in that sense imo.
@@DS..69you probably are talking about how there isn't much of a brotherly effect in The Pacific. It's definitely emotional but it's more psychological than BOB.
You have to realise that K company 3rd battalion 5 marines 1st Division, had less than 85 people return to Pavuvu after Peleliu. They had more casualties on Peleliu than Easy company had casualties throughout the entire war. The casualty rate was much higher and it was basically impossible to create a show with characters we all got to know because they would be dead within the episode.
to be fair mac is ok for an officer
Cease fire!
"OK"
*let's the remaining charge jump over the walls*
'you just gave away our position'
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST YOU LITERALLY JUST OPENED FIRE WITH LIKE A PLATOON'S WORTH OF GUNS, THEY KNOW WHERE YOU FUCKING ARE
CHRIST SHALL RULE
Mac and Sledge weren't exactly on good terms. Their first meeting was the lemonade scene where Sledge gave the green lieutenant a rude stare.
In the Book he's even wierder. Very disturbed.
@@joeywheelerii9136 yeah I remember him mentioning seeing some pretty chicks in clean clothes in a war torn island along side rag wearing marines signified the contrast between peace and war, reminding him of how low in life he was in and it pissed him off thinking those nurses shouldn't be there, in his world of shit.
There was no officer present during the “lemonade ordeal”. It is often visualized that way because of the series, but the described officer was a part of the divisions transport or supply group, and was not Scotty McKenzie. It was just a random 2nd lieutenant who was checking off the men as they loaded trucks.
Scotty didn’t join K/3/5 until several weeks after returning to pavuvu, according to RV Burgin.
This scene almost convinced me of the honor of the Japanese people going up against the enemy with only bladed weapons, but then I remembered that they carried out the most grotesque and repulsive type of torture with other nations
How tf would that be honorable anyway? That's just stupidity.
War is shit. Imagine being a charging soldier knowing you are about to die.
Japanese soldiers in WW2 were seriously suicidal
If someone is charging at you with a big add sword....you can't show mercy if you wanna live because they won't.
M E R C Y
Maybe we watched two different shows?
The one I watched showed a dying soldier with his back to an American, who then shot him after the American disobeyed his superior’s order.
Which one did you watch?
@@Byorin bro are you seriously feeling bad for a Jap?
@@Byorin
Did you watch actually watch the show?
People forget the crazy brutal things that the Japanese imperial soldiers did at that time. I always see people pointing the finger at stories like this, but they're nowhere to be seen when it gets brought up how the Japanese soldiers "graped" every woman and cut the area open where a baby is carried and the top body part of a baby where the eyes and mouth are, that round part got put on a spear or bamboo sticks or the fences around some houses to show Chinese people they're serious.
The only thing I disliked is that he refused to follow the cease fire order. Follow your orders, stop going off-the-rails.
He could've been executed by his own commander for that.
Follow every order. All of them. They all make sense, always, so long as you always obey. Just obey.
Fawcough
this scene was fictional, it didnt happen IRL back then. its artistic freedom, they implemented it to show the toll the war took on sledge, he had been brooding the entire episode with this outburst being the crescendo
Guess we ran out of saving private Ryan clips
Can't argue that, got a job to do, long as the job gets done it doesn't matter how you do it
That's what war does to a man.
This is when Sledge became the Sledgehammer
He was that long before Okinawa.
If the Japanese would survive and return, THEN the position is given away
This is Sledge’s 2nd bloody violent campaign. The darknesss fully consumes his heart in this scene. So sad to watch every time. So thankful for the marines and army dogs who did their part in stopping the Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany.
im actually surprised that a lot of ww2 veterans didn't fight in that many campaigns.
for sledge it was peleliu and okinawa
major richard winters from band of brothers on the other hand
Operation Overlord, D-Day
Operation Market Garden
Battle of the Bulge
Western Allied invasion of Germany
the average infantry person saw 40 days of combat during World War II.
@@joeswanson733 Depending on the army. It is true that in war, most of the time is spent on waiting... but we talk about WWII, in the East and South-East Europe, it was a different thing.
Either German, Soviet, Yugoslav or whatever... you were there pretty much for the entire thing. R&R was an extreme luxury very few had.
You were usually there in the thick of it from the first day, until last - either your last day or the war's last day.
It was a completely different war in those regions.
Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany have little in common other than being enemies of the Allied Forces.
I like Germany, but equating Nazis with Japan is 100% wrong
Red Army as well
"Big Tim: the human piece of (war crimes)."
And here, 50 years later, we all Drive Toyotas and Honda Accords. It's like it never happened. Vietnam that was the real money grab for the military industrial complex. Refer to the farewell speech by Dwight D Eisenhower. Afghanistan. That's all it needs to be said
gave away our position! lmao!!!
I've never seen this movie - but I'm grateful that he put the man out of his misery instead of leaving him to suffer and bleed out.
He better pray to his gods. Cause they are coming now, and if they gonna cut off his hands, then he wished he seized his fire
Now his great grandson drives a Toyota:D
Thats the power of the M1 Garand. The rifle that turned Japan from an imperialist superpower into an anime cat girl nation.
I think this is the most violent war movie I've ever seen. Watched it a few times.
What?? It's not even a movie
@hughwebb1712 A lot of people died to make this movie realistic.
I wish they had tons of shows like this they only have this one and band of brothers and masters of the air and sum that r also as good like sas rogue heroes and world on fire I love movies Abt WW2 and WW1 like passing bells or gallipoli or deadline gallipoli they don't have a lot of good war shows they have lots of war movies and shows but lots dont have enough killing Nazis or the enemy I love battle scenes not the drama scenes one great movie is inglourious bastards another saving private Ryan and a new movie came out Abt WW2 it was hilarious its called The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.
“YoU jUsT gAvE aWaY oUr PoSiTiOn”
THEY ALREADY KNOW WHERE YOU ARE
They just charged you, and you shot them all dead in order to hold your ground. Not shooting the enemy would have led to CQC which would have been a death sentence for many of your Marines.
Seemed to me they were charging in a direction, and not looking specifically where they were. Him getting out of cover to use a sidearm put a big flashing sign on him for the enemy to see exactly where they were hold up. Rather than having to look all across the field for movement.
They were charging a general direction to draw out shots. Both sides were locked in a stalemate with mortar teams firing on each others position but they didnt know where the other was.
The charges were there to draw them out so the soldiers would make noise and the japanese mortar teams would bomb the location.
The only reason Japan went into the war is because the American's stopped their fuel and food supply. My father did 3 tours in New Guinea
It was not the Japanese he hated, he said they were an admiral foe. It was the Americans. You thought that because we were of convict decent. You could treat us like we were nothing.
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And then you used the bomb to blow the Shiite out of them. When the truth was. They had already surrended. The prime minister was on a ship off Japan signing the peace deal. But you still sent the plane and bombed them. It was us Australian's who went over there and helped them. A lot stayed and married Japanese women. Yes. My mother in-law was Japanese Swedish, her husband was Chinese English. He was an officer in the British navy. They didn't even get out of Hong Kong harbour before the Japanese stopped them. Officers discarded their rank, and he spent 4 years in the concentration camp there . The Japanese surrended before the bomb was dropped. History book's are FULL of lies.
Mad respect to your dad but that first part just ain't true. No war of necessity will ever excuse the actions of the Japanese during WW2. Look up Unit 731 and The R@pe of Nanking at your own risk
@@CollieneDawson-hw7bjone man sent the order to drop the bomb. One man. It's rediculous to try to make American citizens, who are mostly immigrants mind you, feel guilty for something a dead man did 80 years ago. Sorry for your loss. No I as an American citizen don't feel bad about being an American.
Great acting!
Eugene Sledge a god damn legend rah
War is Hell shout out to all the Veterans who Served and Sacrificed for our country you all are my Heroes and God bless each and everyone of you
"Shout out"?
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