In Search Of 60 - My Hardest Camp - Hilleberg Jannu Vs Furious Wind -
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- In Search Of 60 - My Hardest Camp - Hilleberg Jannu. My quest to camp in measured 60mph winds. The highest wind speed I have recorded before when camping was 58mph so tonight I had out with my strongest tent in a mad forecast too try and record the magic 60mph...
I must addd that I am very familiar with the location and have a plan A, B, and C. I am very well accustomed to this type of camping and it's well within my experience level. Many other precautions have been taken and considered before this camp.
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This is why you can trust Tom's reviews and recommendations, he doesn't just pitch a tent and call that a review. It's videos like this, and how Tom presents himself, that make it my favourite channel
Hey thank you for your kind words.. really good to hear... I try hard to bring real world tests to the table as I always learn something from this type of pressure and not many other videos show the true wind speed and limits of tents... I also do enjoy this type of camping and find it exciting with the wind hammering the tent and me inside. I do additionally try to demonstrate best practice apart from pitching on a summit when there are sheltered options available ha ha. But its the summits where I want to be as I am pretty much guaranteed to be on my own on a night like this... best wishes Tom
Good to see reality and a proper measured approach to these things. You see some ridiculous claims from certain other youtubers about being out in 100mph+ winds in far lesser tents
Just wow, who to admire the most? Tom or the tent. 😀👍
Me of course.. I picked the tent, pitched it properly. Made it stronger with new shiny 10 mm poles. Carried up extra pegs for it too and now have pitched it again in my spare room and check on it every 5 mins to see if its ok... Ha ha.. hey best wishes and thank you for the comment. me and the tent really appreciate it... Tom and Jannu..
That’s why hilleberg are one of the best tents to own great video Tom 👏👏
Hey thank you for the comment.. Yes I have owned many many decent tents over the years but Hilleberg excell in conditions like this... Best wishes Tom
You deserve a thumbs up 👍 just for putting that tent up in that wind! 🌬️
Hey that you.. It was a little tricky but just took my time and worked through it... best wishes Tom
Having a good, comfortable set of earplugs is a real game-changer in a situation like this. And in many other situations.
Not my personal choice to limit my senses in extreme weather.. I have been woken up by something sounding not right and found some guys had worked loose . I could then sort this before it becomes a problem... But that's just my view... Best wishes Tom
Great video Tom, relaxed in the midst of chaos as always. Pushing even the hille to close to limits. They should appoint you as an ambassador 🙌🙏
Hey Sam I hope that you are well and great as always to hear from you.. Yes the Hille was under strain but didn't break and only a slightly bent pole which was probably my fault.. I hope to do more of this type of video as after all I failed to hit the magic 60.. Next time ill just head for 70 and that should do it.. Double poles though.. Best wishes Tom
This kind of videos are you trademark (together with the thorough revisions) in my opinion.. more than understandable that most videos cannot and will not be like this but.. please keep them coming every once in a while, so great!!!
Hey Marco, awesome to hear from you and I hope you are well... I really hope to bring a few more extreme videos the RUclips this winter.. Its early days yet... best wishes Tom
Good to see you're having fun, Tom :)
I've recently been locked in a Keron for 48h in a snow storm - in Hilleberg we trust! :)
Hey Rob, really great to hear fro you.. Yes when it comes down to it in the really harsh weather Hillebergs stand strong when most others would fail.... In conditions like this any weakness at all will cause failure... Hey I hope you are well and best wishes.. Tom
Some serious wind last night and the tent handled it well, yes the vestibule deformed but the sleeping compartment stayed fantastically well. It's a testament to the tent and your pitching skills that you stayed safe and even managed five hours sleep 👍🏼
Hey great to hear your thoughts... yes it was a tough enough pitch but all went well apart from the guy line birds nest.... Totally agree once I zipped up the inner I was very sheltered from the wind with no drafts or deformation of the tent... best wishes Tom
Wow, I've been in 50 mph wind, and I know that is very powerful. To stand outside, it hurts. it feels like you're getting crushed, I'm shocked at what the tent can withstand, omg.
This is an awesome video what we love to see, awesome Tom
hey that you for watching and leaving me such a positive comment.. I will get that 60 and maybe more the next time... best wishes Tom
@TOMHEANEY100 Yeah, in one of my shorts, I touched 50mph plus , I have never felt anything like it my life,my mate had to shelter behind a boulder it was that powerful, and a tent to withstand that has absolutely amazed me, . This has put hilleberg on another level.
Hilleberg has its own special level!@@outdoorsummiteer399
I really enjoy this man's videos. Real time testing. Real winds.
I enjoy how calm he is even though the wind is blowing in the background.
Hey thank you for the positive comments.. I was honestly very relaxed here. I have camped at this location about 50 times I am sure. I have also used Hilleberg tents extensively in similar conditions and they stood strong.. All wind ward pegging points were triple staked so no chance of a peg coming loose.. Brought 10 mm poles instead of 9.. Also had extra guy lines if needed.. Additionally I chatted on the phone with my friend Gary who has had his Jannu out in similar with no problems.. So was very chilled out and enjoyed it and can't wait to get back for more . Tom
Great video Tom! I think Hilleberg will be really pleased with your videos too. These tests are the only way to test tents that manufacturers claim are mountaineering tents.
Hi Stuart, I have had a few brands turn me down re sending me a tent to test... Maybe this is too extreme for them ha ha.. Yes I know many manufactures make false claims and few show their tent set up in conditions like this.... Thats because many tents just couldn't be pitched in 50mph winds.... I want to bring clear video evidence of what a tent can and cannot do and dont mind pushing my tents to the limits that I cant do with a borrowed tent.. best wishes Tom
Great video. I know it's no joke camping in those winds! My jannu is now back from hilleberg fully repaired and ready to go again.
Hey John Ross, great to hear your thoughts and fab to hear that your Jannu is ready for the winter in the Mournes.. Best wishes for many more happy camps in it.. Tom
Loved how the tripod was vibrating INSIDE the tent! Well done on risking expensive gear, I believe it hit over 60 though Tom, frustrating not to record it though, unlucky! I remember going flat out on my bike on a steep hill in yorkshire then on skis in Canada, both times 59mph, darn!
Ha ha I deliberately didn't stabilise those clips as the camera shaking around adds to the video and you enjoyed it.... Yes a fair risk on my best kit but sure why pay the money and never take it out for a challenge.. Great to hear of your speed tests.. Me and the Jannu will be out again soon to fight another day I hope only this time I will have double poles and the wind can try again to defeat me.... best wishes and great to hear your thoughts Dave...
Been waiting for this one....Tom taking the anenometer out for a good spin
Yes nothing like measuring wind speed when its kicking off... best wishes Tom
Great to see how it handled the wind and so now you know if you were caught out it would handle it.but yes a sheltered option is more preferably but it's always good to know👍
Hey thank you for watching and your comments... Yes tent handled the wind very well... best wishes Tom
Amazing video, Tom. Thanks for demonstrating the capabilities of these shelters .
Hey Mark, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... really appreciate it and best wishes Tom
Much fun Tom. When the vhips are down Hilleberg. Get out while you can. Enough of a good thing. There are places zI've traveled and camped that warrant a tent that will stand up to those conditions.
Hey Sam, always a pleasure to hear form you and that you find value in my videos... Yes if you camp in the mountains its easy enough to get caught out and experience conditions like this... I seek them out though for both your and my entertainment... best wishes Tom
Love your thorough testing
Great to hear you like it.... So do I.. Best wishes Tom
Great film, Tom! Luke’s Mountain never fails to deliver! I’m very impressed with Jannu, it really is a fantastic tent!
Hey Phil, maybe you will join me sometime soon in the Tarra or Quasar to test head to head with the Jannu on Lukes.. Be great to see the Quasar get hammered..... Best wishes and great to hear from you.. Tom
Yeah, I’d be up for that!
@@phildorman6638 hey great I'll definitely be in touch..
Another great video, thanks. Very impressive that you made the effort to be there in those conditions, the tent coped well (thanks to your meticulous pitching, no doubt!) and that you actually managed to get some sleep! Hilleberg should be very grateful that you regularly demonstrate the capabilities of their tents (that you have purchased yourself) in real conditions!
Hi John, great to hear your thoughts... thank you for the positive feedback.. Yes the pitching was tough enough as first time going vestibule into the wind.. Any change at all needs practice. But I was able to take my time and just build the tent from the ground up... I think Hilleberg are grateful but they know that I am a fan and will continue to test their tents for free so why would they sponsor me from a business point of view..There are many other Hilleberg tents that I could borrow to test but I honestly am not rushing to do that, due to the fact that they have declined sponsorship on 3 occasions after featuring very positively their tents in over 20 videos.. Hopefully we will both get out in conditions like this some day... best wishes Tom
Hello Tom, A great test for the Hilleberg tent. Ourt bush line here in my area of NZ goes up to 1200m and when I go above it into alpine areas, it is very exposed, and I have had to bail when the wind has almost torn the tent out of the ground. but thankfully I have the refuge of the bush to run to. I felt every blast of the wind around your tent as I have been in that situation so many times. The weather can change in a blink of an eye here. I liked the way you kept your composure and talked calmly through the video. ATB Cheers from the mountains of NZ ☺☺
Hi, great to hear from NZ..and your experience of the conditions... Yes weather can change so quickly especially in the mountains and if you are camping then you need your shelter to be sound... I think it takes it to happen to you before you understand what it's really like. I am very familiar with this location and its not too far into the mountains so that helps with being relaxed about it all... best wishes and thank you for taking the time to comment on the video... Tom
Impressive performance by the Jannu 👍.
Yes yes and the Nammatj will do just as well but more flapping of the fabric..... Thank you for watching and hope you are well and out in the Nammatj. Great to hear from you and best wishes with growing your channel as subscriber numbers are really good... Tom
What a video Tom ! Great work - it shows that with great gear and a lot off pratice and experience ( whitch you have ) this sort of wild camping could be done but it is not for the novise . Great test of gear and confidence and courage. This is why er love your Chanel Tom !🎉😊
Hey thank you very much.. I thought it was time for a proper gear test... More of this coming soon as I need to get that 60 or maybe even 70.... best wishes and thank you for your support over many videos... Tom
I've measured 52 storm Ewen kinder scout ,if you have never been in that sort of weather, you never know the force of that wind it's like a truck hitting you. Unreal footage
Hey thank you for the comment... Yes high winds are an experience not for everyone.. It's also nearly impossible to actually record the biggest gust. I reckon here 65 or maybe even 70 did occur... What tent did you use ?
Brilliant video Tom. Its great to see you pushing these tents and reassuring all held firm. Glad you managed some sleep.
Hey great to see you are still watching my videos... thank you for the comment and best wishes Tom
Hey Tom. Kudos to you for heading out and filming in this extreme wind. I’m absolutely gutted I missed this camp. Having been out in over 50 mph I know how hard it is to manage getting the tent up safely. The Jannu is the only tent I’ve personally had that I would trust in this weather. I must confess to selfishly being happy you didn’t record the magic 60. We have spoken many times about achieving that milestone so the competition is still alive lol, brilliant video as as always mate. Well done. 👍👍
Hey Gary... well its one we will smash together armed to the teeth with extra poles and pegs.. By the end of September we will have it cracked for sure and maybe get the 70.... I missed you on the camp but really appreciated your support over the phone regarding the strength of the tent and its capabilities... Tent up at the moment and no fabric damage or stress signs. Cant wait to get at it again with your good self.... best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 for sure. It’s one thing pitching in a sheltered location like behind a wall or over the edge of a summit and posting false wind readings from an exposed area that aren’t genuine at the tent. The difference here is these readings are taken adjacent to the tent 👏
@@garynesbitt5078 Yes Gary I took the readings right at the tent beside the pile of stones marking the summit as I too am frustrated at the false claims regarding wind speed. I think it's important to be accurate as people are buying tents that they think are stronger that they really are because of what's been posted on RUclips. Going to bring an additional annemomer next time in case the kestrel maxes at 58... I am pretty sure it records higher but strange it topped at exactly the same speed on 3 occasions now..
@@garynesbitt5078 Kestrel claim 135mph so even we will have a hard time maxing that....
😁😁
Magic Tom to see a real storm pitch
Cheers
Hey you are right and a few more to come this winter.. it will be 70mph that I will chase next time armed to the teeth with wind fighting kit.... best wishes Tom
Really appreciate all the continued hard work!!!
Hey, thank you so very much for the super thanks I really appreciate that too.. best wishes for the new year and thank you once again... Tom
You really do push the limits mate with your mind and gear.👍
No point in paying the money and not getting the best out of it.. I do enjoy it to be fair and tent has no damage apart from a slightly bent pole. I just feel it's important to accurately demonstrate what wind the tent can handle.. best wishes Tom
😂Well done, Tom 👍 I told you about the ‘knitting’ before didn’t I - Good effort 👍
Thank you Shamus, and as usual always great to hear your thoughts especially when you have owned and seriously tested the Jannu... best wishes Tom
Love the vids Tom, top quality! Waiting on my Jannu now - sold out until end of Feb! :(
Keep up the good work!
Hey Matt, awesome to hear you are going to get a Jannu... I really love this tent and I am sure you will too.. I hope you get it early... best wishes Tom
Madness! lol.. good on ya Tom atb... Sinco
Hey great to hear from you Sinco.. I hope you are doing well and getting the tent out.. best wishes Tom
You're a wildman. :)
I love watching these extreme wind tests.
If a tent can survive your tests, then it will be fine in any weather I have ever experienced outdoors.
Hey thank you for watching and its great to hear that you enjoyed the video.. I have experienced conditions similar to this on a good few occasions and that's what happens in the mountains. If you camp in winter on summits you need to know that your kit will stand up... Too many are out in tents that wont or they have heard false stories about how a certain tent survived 70mph gusts.. I want to accurately demonstrate with clear video evidence what a tent can truly withstand... best wishes Tom
What and awesome test and channel generally. Thanks for all the fantastic content
Hey Alex thank you very much for the feedback.. I am delighted to hear that you are enjoying the channel. I try to bring real world measured testing regarding tents as I feel it's very important to show truthfully what a tent can do in respect of wind performance. So many will say or actually think they are out in 60 mph winds when in reality they are not... Best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Yeah it’s a real bugbear of mine too. I am pretty sure my Quasar failed in 50mph winds (the flysheet pulling forward towards the wind and acting like a massive scoop and then just vertical wall connected to the inner) so when I see people talking about camping out in 80mph or even 100mph winds it just sounds ridiculous to me! Basically if the wind is over 40mph most tents are in trouble, if its over 50 only the very best tents will survive. Perhaps the one caveat to that (having seen some campgrounds levelled in Iceland before) is very low and tiny 1-man tents, which can be cheap and very storm resistant, I just wouldn’t want to stay in one!
@@alexnail Hi Alex, great to hear your thoughts... Yes as you can see on the Jannu the fly is also deforming and stretching to then act like a scoop in 60mph winds.. My Quasars also did this even more as there was no way of securing the fly to the poles and the wind just pulled it forwards.. So I totally agree once the winds get over 40 lots of tents will struggle. Then 50 it's even tighter as this is almost a 20 percent increase. When it gets to 60 then few will survive.. Do you still have the quasars by the way? Best wishes and thank you for your time commenting here... Tom
You had me at "triple pegged".
triple staked then...... best wishes Tom
That would make your eyes water! 😁
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock
I knew someone would be out . ..
"Triple pegged "
I hope you brought a screw driver and some screws for your boots 😂 .
Really enjoyed watching you not dying , cheers
Hey hope you are well and great to hear your thoughts.. Absolutely not going to worry about a peg being pulled out during the night ha ha... Live to fight the winds another day both me and the tent...best wishes Tom
Hilleberg and Fjällräven are the best!
Yes two super brands eating offering something a bit different to each other.. Best wishes and thank you for the comment...Tom
After watching your video on the Unna I've finally taken stock of one. All I see are Hilleberg tents getting a pasting and surviving
Hey Sue that is definitely true.. They bend and stretch but live to fight many more days.. Great to hear that you went for an Unna. It's a simple and great shelter for many conditions... Congratulations and I wish you many happy camps in it.. best wishes Tom
Many thanks for taking time to reply. We finally had a dry day yesterday so out I went for a play. Wow, it's easy to pitch and goes up in no time. I was really surprised about the size of the virtual vestibule! I'm a hill and moorland camper so more likely to experience rain than the shocking summit coniditions. I have high hopes for this little tent @@TOMHEANEY100
@@suewheeler5795 Welcome and great to hear you like it.. Tom
Oh my days... Tom you Wildman! I see your Jannu took a serious beasting there & the pasta still got cooked. Much appreciate your efforts to produce this vid. Also like the use of a 10mm pole set. I used an MSR Access 2 last winter on Dartmoor. It just couldn't handle a thrashing like that in exposed locations. Found myself retreating off tors for fear the tent would be decimated. So, this coming winter I'm digging out my Jannu as my preferred winter shelter for solo use. Best wishes on your quest for 60 & happy trails
Hey thank you for the comment I appreciate it... Yes it takes a lot of effort filming in these conditions.. I tested the MSR access 1 last year and found it collapsing in very little wind.. I really didn't like it.. Best wishes Tom
I've got a mutha hubba that was wrecked in the new forest of all places.
Good video, Tom! Really taking the tent to extremes. Thanks for all you do to make these videos.
Hi you are welcome but I do enjoy it.... best wishes and thank you for the feedback... Tom
"A mountain that delivers" haha love it. Good video Tom 💪💪💪
Did you sleep without ear plugs? 😴😳
Hey thank you.. One for your BL Soulo.. Great to hear from you.. Tom
Never use ear plugs as I want to be fully aware of what's going on... I can then fix any issues before they become a problem.... Hope you are doing well.. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 same I do the same for the same reasons. Jeezus how did u get sleep then 😂 that was mental haha
@@GoSummitSolo I just trusted the tent and got 4 hours....
Great to see. :-) from a desktop. I had it too the Jannu but not in this wind. :-)
Hey that you for watching and commenting.. Really happy with this tent.. best wishes Tom
Crickey Tom, that was epic. I love how you stay so calm in those conditions, I'd probably end up flapping about more than my tent. 😂 Great video and great to see the Jannu put to the test like that.
Hey Mark I hope you are well... I honestly look forward to getting out again in big winds... The tent did really well and no sign of fabric wear and tear or damage... A slightly bent pole but I will soon sort that and also double pole on the next 60mph outing... best wishes tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 What do you do to sort out the bent pole Tom. One of my Skyscraper poles is slightly bent. It's not a big problem, but it would be nice to straighten if poss.
@@trickofthetrail If its not too bent I have a wooden table with slots that I can slide the pole through and apply some pressure to straighten it. I do understand that this can weaken the pole and make it more brittle but I use common sense regarding how much pressure it needs. I will also mark the pole with tape and then use it on the lee side of the wind. Here though as I have another spare 10mm pole I will check the section lengths and then possibly swop out the bent sections so the pole is 100 percent... No real easy solution but better having a bent pole than a torn tent.. Hope that helps.. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 yes it does, thanks for info Tom.
@@trickofthetrail Hi Mark.. Just sorted them using sections from my spare pole..
What a review…. well done Mr tent tester
Hey Hans, thank you.... You know I love the wind testing.. I hope you are well and I look forward to your next one... best wishes Tom
Great video, truly extreme!
Thank you for the feedback.. Yes it was gnarly enough but survived very well..
Wicked!
You are right, nasty enough... best wishes Tom
Hi Tom. I love your videos, they have helped me out a lot the past year beeing new to tent camping. So thank you for that. I was wondering though. Do you think some tile in the future you could do a review and test of the fjellreven abisko dome 2 in windy conditions?
Hi thank you for the comment...and watching my video.. To be honest I am not a fan of larger domes with pole slieves for windy conditions... Especially setting them up on my own... I prefer the short pole sleeves and clips of the Hilleberg system which allows you to build the tent from the ground up as you see here. I generally try to demonstrate best practice and failing to pitch a tent in windy conditions like this and showing it on video is just not what I want to get across to my viewers. Also I am not a Fjallraven fan as the only tent that I owned from them had a fault and the customer service was pretty much non existent.. Sorry to disappoint but there are reasons that I do what I do.. best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thank you for a great answer and explanation. This is actually the reason I asked because I just purchased a fjellreven abisko dome 2 (my first tent) I have tried it a few times but setting it up is a struggle with just a little wind. so I was hoping for some good tips and tricks from you. So I guess I’m saving up for a hilleberg allak after all😂
@@Alexhaugs Hi I didn't mean to me abrupt in my previous reply and sorry that it was so direct.. I am sure you have watched Bushman and Blue struggle with his Keb dome and my previous North face ve25 had frequent bent poles from me trying to set it up alone in high ish winds... It's a sore point of mine when manufactures never show you how to do it.... And that's because its really difficult... The Jannu here will be a good bit stronger than the Allak so bear that in mind. My friend who owns the red Jannu in many of my videos sold his Allak as definitely not as strong in high winds... Best wishes tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 no apology needed. Thank you again for an elaborate response. I have seen the video of the keb dome which is why I have been scared to go out and try the tent in high winds. I bought the abisko because I got a good deal on a used one and I do like the space and two vestibules which is why I’m leaning towards the allak but I guess I’ll have time to think about it while saving up for a new one. Again thank you so much for taking the time to answer🙏🏻
I love your tent reviews, mainly because you make the effort to show them in strong winds. Having once pitched in forecast (don’t know what it was in reality) 60mph gusts, it took the wind all of 10 minutes to turn the tent into a giant bivvy bag. It wasn’t the most restful night I’ve ever had. 😁 Since then, even though it’s only happened to me once, how a tent handles wind is the first thing I look for.
Me too Wind testing tents is my favourite part of making videos... Its seriously important to understand what the tent can take... best wishes Tom
Awesome video! Thanks Tom. Looks as if it was near its limit at 58mph wind. And that’s with a 10mm poles add-on. Interesting to know if doubling 10mm poles would make a noticeable difference… thank you.
Hi yes tent was definitely under pressure.. Next time I will add some more guy lines to brace against sideways gusts and take my spare 9mm pole to double pole the brow pole or maybe go tail into the wind but double pole the two rear poles... Anyways I will definitely add some more poles in some form next time... great to hear your thoughts.. best wishes Tom
absolutely nuts!
Yes it was windy enough for August and less than 400m... 🤣🤣
@@TOMHEANEY100 great everyone survived, tough tent for sure, thanks for test. To be honest it’s good to know what tent is capable of in extreme weather but I probably would not risk to put my tent under unnecessary strain. Funny enough Hilleberg doesn’t give in specs maximum wind resistance. But now we know, it’s 58 and above! Amazing, literally test setting it up and taking down in this wind.
Great video 👍🙂
Thank you very much for your feedback.. best wishes Tom
Watching this from the comfort of my Soulo,double poles, waving goodbye to storm Betty. She tried to keep me up last night but didn’t keep me from my beauty sleep. I pitched a bit more sheltered than you though Tom. Max I measured out the tent door was 35..way down on the 80 gusts they reckoned for the top above me…
Yeah when I planned this trip storm Betty wasn't mentioned or I would have waited to try and meet her.... Awesome to hear you are out and a double polled Soulo is the place to be... best wishes and maybe next time you will try a summit....Tom
Tom I'd be scared to death to camp in that windstorm in anything other than a Hilleberg red or black label tent! Thanks for suffering for us to show what its like to camp in a hellacious storm!
Hey Kevin great to hear from you.. Yes when it comes to conditions like this then I know I can trust Hilleberg.. The tent was under serious strain here but it took it with no sign of damage.. best wishes Tom
I got my new Bergans super light tunnel 1, its not one of my four season tents and i just set it up in one of my videos. Check it out.. i keep my nammatj2 for all tough winter activities but liked to have a light one person tent…i am excited to see how the Bergans will be once i am hiking on the mountain…
Hey you have a nice selection of tents.... great to see this... best wishes Tom
My son survived a night with wind gusts at 129 MPH in a Jannu on Mount Washington USA. This is incredible and I just gave him that Jannu a few weeks before he made his trip. I own few hillebergs, mountain hardwear and Samaya tents. I strongly believe that the Jannu saved his life that night. That is what he believes too.
Hey thank you for sharing this experience and great to hear of your fantastic tent collection.. I have owned tents from all these brands and for high winds the Jannu would be my favourite.. Would not fancy winds like he experienced... Best wishes Tom
You mention Samaya, just wondering if you have any experience with it in strong winds? I have a Samaya 2.5 but a bit uncertain about how strong it is in harsh weather in the mountains considering how lightweight it is even though I am aware of that its designed for alpine conditions… Thinking of getting a Hilleberg instead (Soulo or Nammatj) but maybe I should just stick to the Samaya? Thanks.
@@oisteinthomassen Hi, I also have the Samaya 2.5 and I bought the Basecamp recently. I don't have experience in strong winds with both of them. I am quite confident that they would be fine in harsh weather, they have been tested by many people in the alpine environment. I would be cautious and take the time to develop my trust by exposing them to gradually stronger winds. I have 2 hillebergs, The Kaytum 2, Keron GT 3 and formally the Jannu that I gave to my son. As far as I am concerned, based on the incredible experience that he went through with the Jannu and my own experience with winds over 60 mph, I would say that the Hilleberg tents are quite a fortress and i have absolute trust in their capacity to keep me safe in horrendous conditions but I think that i will take time to proof the Samaya in bad weather also, simply because I have a good feeling about them. If I would have to choose now, I would go with the Hilleberg but this may change.... Take care!
@@oisteinthomassen Interesting... I can't find my previous reply. Ok, I own 2 hillebergs, a Keron 3 GT and a kaytum 2. I gave my Jannu to my son who had this incredible experience described above a couple of months ago. In a nutshell, I would say that I fully trust my Hillebergs, having tested them in 60+ MPH winds and I also own a Samaya 2.5 and recently bought the Basecamp, which I have not tested in high winds. If I would have to choose, I would for now use one of my hillebergs in horrendous conditions but I will take the time to test and develop trust in my Samaya's, with gradual high winds exposure, because i think that they are great and I am confident that they have been tested by professional in high winds.
@@gillesapril321 very strange, I cannot find my reply to you either.. thanks a lot, interesting to hear! Samaya is indeed designed for alpine conditions and should be able to face really harsh conditions, it’s just a bit hard to imagine that such a lightweight tent and thin poles actually can take such a beating that really strong winds can exert on a tent. Hilleberg soulo black label I can understand though ;-) great to hear your experiences. And I love your videos @TOMHEANEY100 :)
Hi Tom, I've been watching some of your tent reviews and i'm begining to apreciate that you're setting a new gold standard for reviews. So well done, great work!. I have aquestion and a request. Your colour preference, red or green and why? I just bought the new Wild country Trident 2 as my first wild camping tent. I've been searching for what I think may be the Hilleberg equivelent for those future occcasions where I know the weather may get worse. Would you do your usual brilliant review and comparison of the Wild Country Trident 2 and the Hillebarg Jannu please.
Hi Paul, thank you for the coffee by the way.. Colour preference now is just what I can get, as Hilleberg's are so hard to come by... I used to always go for red as it stands out, then sand but now green... I am afraid the review you requested would be difficult for me.. Sourcing tents is the problem and Wild Country - Terra Nova wont reply when I send them emails regarding sponsorship so I then simply choose not to feature their products in my videos.... I may in the future review a Quasar but this is because I have many years experience with that particular tent.. Best wishes with the new tent... Tom
Great video Tom, not sure it’s best to have the door facing the wind, as when the door is opened the wind comes in and puts stress on the seams from the air pressure. I would have had the back end into the wind. But if that’s what hilleberg recommend then they know best, maybe it’s shears the wind better. Anyway great test of the tent.
Hi David... It's a clear and strong recommendation from Hilleberg for this tent and some of their tunnel tents. Vestibule into the wind.. I totally get it that this goes against the grain but you just need to be careful getting in and out of the tent. Only open the zip enough and hold onto it so it cant creep up when you are getting inside then pull it back down behind you and lock it in the locking mechanism.... I hope you are well and best wishes Tom
100 kph = Force 10 winds. Jeez, the deformation on the tent was nasty. Did you notice any damage in the poles when you checked later? Another great video Tom! :)
Hey great to hear from you and I hope you are well... Yes two poles slightly bent but all sections now replaced.. The wind changed direction slightly and I should have had some extra guy lines attached to support the poles form all angles so more my fault rather than the tents... best wishes. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Bent poles! :( I have a Staika and an Unna, and because of previous bad experiences of being caught on exposed positions in high winds in tents that failed, I now always try to pitch in sheltered spots. But, of course, I understand you were making the video, but I would have been lying awake all night worried in those conditions. lol. Once again, thanks for a great video. :)
Hi Tom. Great video! As others have said, this is what I call a review! Thank you! I am curious though, are you using Easton Nano 9inch pegs?
Hey thank you for the positive feedback.. The stakes are 7.5 inch and 6 inch from Big Sky international. I know the ground here is good so I can bury the 7.5s on the windward side and then back up with a 6.... Easton Nanos look great too.... best wishes Tom
Hello Tom, great to see you out testing again was out my self with a friend on Dartmoor Friday night gusting over 60mph according to Ventusky weather info we were in a Fjallraven Abisko Shape 3 tent double poled and two extra guylines on front pole, wind direction started out from south east then later south west catching more of side of tent, good night apart from walk in waterproof jacket leaked and next morning in rain same again. liked how Jannu performed but could wonder if an extra pole added at front would of stopped vestibule bowing in as much or Hilleberg to add guylines to front of vestibule to keep shape in strong winds. Always look forward to your tent tests, kind regards.
Hey, fab to hear that you were out in such conditions... That shape 3 is very aero from the front and with double poles then I am sure it resisted the weather pretty well.. Yes I think next time I will bring my spare pole for the front. The vestibule definitely deforms but adding extra guy lines just puts more pressure on the fabric at the guy point so I am a bit unsure of this... All of the stress guy lines here on the Jannu wrap around the poles and directly support them.. When I unclipped the inner and pulled it back into the tent then I had loads of space for cooking.. best wishes with the shape 3.. Tom
Great video! That’s windy!! Do you ever double pole your Hillebergs? I can’t remember from previous vids?
I had double polled my Nammatj and will double pole the JANNU next time I have it out in possible 60mph winds... Tom
Yes thank you, found it
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Another great vid, Nam2 is my fave tent!
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Thank you for the couple of comments.. best wishes Tom
Wow Tom, now that was something else. How did you keep your glasses on?
Lost them a few times but didn't show that on film.... great to hear from you and best wishes tom
Great video Tom...i think you have just increased the demand for Jannu's. I still have my Soulo for my extreme weather use and i have a couple of much lighter so called 4 season tents that wouldn't have survived 5 minutes in wind like that. Obviously pegging ( can we still say that ? ) is as much a vital ingrediant to a successful pitch as the tent ...did you use the Eastons ?
Maybe I will call the pegs stakes ha ha... as that's a safer term..... The pegs.. I mean stakes used are from Big Sky international.. a combination of 7.5 and 6 inches.... Triple staked on the windward side .... I know the ground is silo at this location... best wishes and thank you for the comment... Tom
You can't beat a good steak in bad weather :) You're welcome Tom@@TOMHEANEY100
Tom how about testing the terra nova Laser Compact AS
Terra Nova won't answer my emails regarding sponsorship so not rushing to test their gear... best wishes Tom
And there I was in my naivety thinking the 60 would refer to your 60th wild camp!! Savage stuff altogether. Fair play. As an aside, how do you think the Hilleberg Soulo Red Label would have coped with that? Regards, Wadirunner.
Hi here you go if you haven't found this already... ruclips.net/video/B_EjrWzcNDk/видео.html. Its a smaller tent also with 3 poles so it does very well... best wishes Tom
Great to see you took the Janna through its paces and you being a cool as a cucumber in the midst of it all. 😀 What’s your thoughts on whether the vestibule should be pitched into the wind or on the leeward side?
Hi Barry great to hear you have still an interest in the Hilles.... Hilleberg recommend vestibule into the wind so that's fine by me. there are some practical things you have to manage such as getting in and out of the tent but I had no issues. The brow pole here at the front makes the front stronger than the rear and better tent support from angled gusts... I hope you are well.. Best wishes Tom
Great demonstration, Tom. I'm really not a fan of having to wrap guylines around tentpoles during setup (when it's really windy). May i ask what your experience has been? I had setup an Allak in winds similar (but not quite as bad) to what I'm seeing in this video, and it ended up tearing some guyline seams (granted it's a red label tent). Cheers.
Hi Joshua great to hear from you and your experience with the Allak.. I really like the wrapping of the guy lines around the poles and never had any issues with my two Soulos and this Jannu. Jannu is also red label.. Interesting to hear of your experience.. Did you ask Hillleberg or make them aware?? best wishes Tom
Tom your thoughts Jeanu vs Kaitum? I’m 6’3” and prefer the Kaitum for overall length. I don’t like the idea of door into wind
It's the Kaitum then as it's vastly longer, pretty strong and has two vestibules so you can have one in a sheltered position.... best wishes Tom
Hi Tom.
Great viewing.
Have you swapped your Nammatj for the Jannu?
I've just bought the Nammatj after a long debate on which 4 season 2 man tent to buy. The Jannu does look awesome though.
Hi Ashley, yes I have.. Suits me better as one person but as a two person tent then the Nammatj has much more space... It was a very tough decision as when the winds get to this speed then both are under pressure. The Nammatj still has the nice stronger fabric and fast to set up and manage in conditions like this..Very easy to double pole too if needed or wanted. With winds up to 40 or 50 then the Jannu is more comfortable but after that its just survival and not much difference... best wishes Tom
@TOMHEANEY100 Thanks for the reply Tom. The Nammatj is for my 8 year old son and I. I've made the right choice by what you've said. I have the Unna to for when I want space when on my own.
Keep up the great content and hope you have a wonderful Christmas 🎄
Great test Tom. Are they 10mm poles? If so, where did you get them from for the Jannu? In fact, where the hell did you get the Jannu from? 😂ATB Jiffy 👍
Hey Jiffy great to see you out camping again... Yes 10mm poles for sure and from Ultralight outdoor gear.. ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/373cm-x-10mm-angled-insert-spare-pole-for-jannu/. Thats just the brow pole but they have the others as well.... I got the Jannu from them too about 8 months ago... Its an awesome tent.. hey best wishes and thank you for the comment.. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Cheers Tom and thank you 👍🏻
Maybe if your camping in bad weather, high winds I invested in a extra set of poles for my saitaris
yes I will be taking my extra set next time when its forecast over 50mph.. Nice tent that Saitaris.....best wishes Tom
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Hi Tom, it’s almost a year from this review of the Jannu, would you still recommend it as the best 2 man tent?
I’ve returned to watching your videos on it as I’m thinking of buying one.
Cheers and ATP Jim.👍
Hi Jim, awesome to hear you are thinking of something like this.. As a two man tent for one person definitely the Jannu.. But for two I'd probably prefer the Nammatj.. It is easier to pitch, double pole if necessary, much more spacious, more durable fabric, at the small cost of being a bit flappy and noisy in higher winds.. I hope that helps and makes sense.. best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 many thanks for getting back to me Tom👍 Yes just for my own adventures..ATP Jim.
How did you get the Jannu in that color?
Hi Brian, its nice in that colour.. Yeah I phoned around a few retailers 8 months ago and there were very few in stock so I knew I need to go ahead and get one... I hope you can source one too if that's what you are looking for... best wishes Tom
In my opinion, the vestibule just shouldn't bow that low under high winds. This brand specializes in high wind tents, they should have designed it better than that.
Yes I had it pulled very tight too.. You lose all workable vestibule space.. BUT when the winds reach that speed I don't know any tent that will do much better.. Thank you for the comment.. best wishes Tom
Why did you choose to put the entrance vestibule windward when Hilleberg recommend this should be leeward? You have clinically examined the pros and cons of this (edit: in many of your videos) much to your credit. I would go so far as to say you an authority on Hilleberg. But to put your vestibule into the fray? You are not losing it are you mate?
"Every design has its advantages. The one entrance / one vestibule option makes the design lighter compared to options with two vestibules and 2 entrances. Wind can always push against the tent and fabric affecting the space on the inside. For this reason, we do recommend to pitch the tent with the vestibule against the wind to prevent the rear end to be pushed against your feet” This is directly from Hilleberg.. Don't know where you get the idea that Hilleberg recommended leeward.. I would honestly be interested to see or hear... Thank you for the comment and challenge maybe I have got it wrong but they do recommend vestibule into the wind on many of their tents when it gets serious.. I personally feel the cut off is about 50mph. Tom
Ive never heard hilleberg say vestibule away from the wind for any of their tents.....
@@trillbrown3686 Neither have I there must be some confusion. They say vestibule into the wind for some models.. best wishes Tom
Lashing rain haven’t that in over 30 years
yeah yeah I can believe that... Bet you haven't had much snow either.... Hope you are well and thank you for watching and the comment... Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 only in the north of Vietnam heavy snow love it … it was a interesting choice of tent to take .. for 60 miles wind test .. would love to see other brands to see if they can handle it
@@Bikepacking me too regarding the other brands. Its hard for me to do if I borrow a tent from someone and take it out to destruction... Not too many other RUclips videos about regarding tents under this amount of pressure... best wishes tom
I just dont like tents that have no support in the vestibule like that
No worries thanks for sharing your opinion.. Best wishes Tom
I'll stick my neck out on the line. I thought tail into wind was better on previous side by side test. that vestibule bashing around like a shipwreck annoys me. irrespective of Hilleberg advice.
Yes it's not totally cast in stone but in winds above 50 mph it would be my choice.. The vestibule absorbed the wind here and very little was transferred to the inside.. I feel too if the tent took damage and it had been pitched as recommended by Hilleberg then they are more likely to stand over the repair.. It does take practice and getting used to I will certainly admit.. Hey I appreciate hearing your thoughts 💬...best wishes Tom
Great stuff. Re your recent video about Durston - I bought one of their tents for a summer camp in the high Pyrenees. In some fierce but not crazy gusts, it collapsed. I left it in a mountain hut, and I'm back to Hillebergs. This kind of dependability is precious.
Hi, yes I rate the tents weather resistance as my number one priority because if you regularly camp in mountain environments then sooner or later it's going to throw up high winds even when not forecast.. I feel it's important for people to understand realistically what a particular tent can handle regarding weather resistance... There are many false claims out there and then people buy the tent and get caught out.. I think Durston gear are now saying the X Mid is a 3 season tent and I am totally happy with that. Hey thank you for sharing your experience.. best wishes Tom