You Dont See This Much On YouTube ! Hilleberg Jannu HIGH Wind Pitching
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- What good is a 4 Season tent if you cannot pitch it in challenging conditions? This video demonstrates a high wind set up of the Hilleberg Jannu on Lukes Mountain, the mountain that has tried to kill all my tents.... The wind speed was accurately measured at 44 mph at the tent, full mountain summit conditions. I hope that you enjoy the video. All the very best wishes Tom
Really useful video Tom. Masterclass on pitching in high winds. Look forward to seeing how you got on with pitching the other way round.
Hey I am afraid I didn't video the pitching, just tent performance of both pitched differently.. This video has done well so I may do that at some point... Hey thank you for your comments and watching the video.. All the very best wishes Tom
Hi Tom, thank you for putting so much effort into these videos, they are very useful and informative. If you ever want to review an Allak 2 with 10mm poles......
Hey thank you for the positive feedback.. Yeah I try to film the harder stuff that others don't do . Thank you too for the offer of your Allak.. I am trying not to review too many more Hilleberg tents as I have asked Hilleberg many times for a tent and the reply is they don't have any.. So I feel they have had enough free promotion... If I have a change of heart I will let you know and we can see if it still suits.. I do have a friends Nallo 2 to do at some point too .. Best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 You have a great reliable windy spot to pitch up, not throwing shade at people who only pitch in their backyard in ideal conditions...
Great video Tom (and Gary), gives people more confidence in pitching in serious wind.
Hey mate how are you? Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. All the very best wishes Tom
This channel is fantastic.
I do try very hard to bring real world true content to those who appreciate and can see the difference.. There are many claims of tents that can withstand so called certain winds.. People then buy them and go out and they fail putting themselves and others at risk.. Not good..All the very best wishes and thank you for your comments and watching the video.. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 very true. I also see people use tents outside their design scope, then trash the tent. Not fair. Your reviews are fair and accurate. Your knowledge of tent design adds value to this channel. Its wonderful to see. Ive done so many high wind pitches( Noreasters and tropical storms ) while surf chasing. This video was informative and inspiring. Calm during the chaos. Also very entertaining like the buried in the snow video. Keep em coming and thanks so much for them. Be well.
Hi mate, yes your explanation helps a great deal! Cheers!
Great to hear thank you.. Tom
You both certainly looked like you enjoyed that!! Two happy campers, safe in their tents 🏕️😎
Hi Miriam you are right we had in great night in the two tents. Luke's mountain always delivers.. Can't wait to get back out there.. I hope you are well and I look forward to seeing your next video.. All the very best wishes Tom
Great detail. Real world demonstration. Love the Jannu. Thanks Tom.
Hey David thanks for the comments. Much appreciated.. All the very best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Thank you sir.
Hi Tom.
Good stuff. I think it is really useful to see tents put up in real time. Often people show themselves starting to put the tent up then cut to them finishing it off. That gives a false impression of it being an easy process! With my Scarp 1 it's a real faff to get the pole through its sleeve and takes a bit of to-ing and fro-ing. There are plenty of other Scarp users who post videos but they rarely show how long it takes to insert the pole!
Hi thanks for the comments.. This kind was the point of this video as so few demonstrate the real experience.. I wonder why!! Another video up tonight if you have time to watch.. All the very best wishes Tom
Incredible channel. I can't believe I have only just found you ⛺🙏
Hey really great to hear thank you..Much more content like this on the channel... best wishes Tom
Great videoTom as usual. Will look forward to seeing the comparison of the two Jannus in the wind.
Hey great to hear from you.. Just started the edit now... All the very best wishes. Tom
Awesome video.. it work really good with you filming, and your friend setting the tent up, thanks for sharing 🏕
Hey Hans great to hear from you. Yes this worked very well getting the opportunity to film properly.. That reminds me I must get a look at your recent video... All the very best wishes Tom
Beautiful tent and beautiful pitch presented in a beautiful way. Entertaining and informative. I just can't get enough of tents in high winds and rough weather and I'm looking forward to the follow up. Thank you very much!
You are right about the beautiful tent.. My own green one will appear in my next video.. It's even more beautiful 😍... Yes I love getting the tent out in high winds. This Jannu will feature greatly over the winter in my videos fighting Luke's mount trying to kill it.. Hey great to hear from you and your thoughts 💭. All the very best wishes Tom
First class Tom. Almost makes me feel like buying a Hilleberg. But then I never was mainstream. Well done Gary, masterclass.
Just because lots of people have them shouldn't be a reason not to... It's about what works in the real world.. I have never liked being mainstream myself and tried many smaller brands to give them a chance.. BUT shelters like tents first and foremost it's protection from the harsh elements that is most important to me and few other tents with the reputation of Hilleberg... Great to hear from you and thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. All the very best wishes Tom
When you pitch those tents in the Swiss Mountains and you have to take care of yourself and Husky's you really come to the simple conclusion that all that matters is protection and reliability.
Every single Hilleberg I've ever owned was from 2nd hand after weeks or moths of searching and for a fair price.
I love my Jack Wolfskin tents and all the other brands that I had or still own.
But with Hilleberg tents I literally crossed desserts on this planet, conquered Islands and took them on MTB-Trips all over Europe
I'm Personally a Big fan of the Nammatj 3GT and the Soulo red label.
@TOMHEANEY100 If they were £600 Tom, I would buy one tomorrow. As it is £1100, is just way overpriced. I expect you to disagree, but the price is not justified when compared to other offerings especially for typical UK use. The expedition market may be different, but when you look at high altitude camps in Alaska and the himalayas, offerings by The North face and mountain hardwear feature strongly.
Great vid Tom. Very much enjoyed. They call me the breeze. That's what people need to see. If you experience real life you very well may encounter these conditions and maybe much worse. Sleet, freezing rain, snow or thunder and lightning can provide a danger element to the mix. So one needs to know and understand how to accomplish safety and security for survival in all conditions. Knowledge is power and so are winds like you practiced in. Look forward to viewing the other vid. Good to see you and your bud again.
Hey Sam awesome to hear from you and thank you for sharing your thoughts... Yes we need to keep up the practice to stay familiar for these conditions.. I pitched my tent tail into the wind and also had no worries at all. The comparison video will be up tomorrow night.. Its really great to find a friend who has the same interests in getting out in the harsh weather with similar gear.. All the very best wishes.. Tom
You certainly push boundaries mate and do it properly. Cheers Tom 👍
Thanks for the comments.. I definitely try to push the boundaries but demonstrate best practice at the same time.. In winter the plan is to push a bit harder too but all under control of course..All the very best wishes Tom
Amazing tent. The pole structure reminds me of the MH Trango. Excellent video.
Hey thank you for the comment.. yes the structure here is particularly strong from the front.. best wishes Tom
Pfft… no good without the rain hammering down on you too! Nah just kidding, great video - exactly the kind of content I search for, so well done and thank you.
Hey no worries just a little hard to film in the rain with the camera I use... BUT I hope to film more in higher winds... Roll on the winter ha ha.. Thank you for your comments Gareth.. All the very best wishes Tom
great vid, thanks!!!
Hi, you are welcome thank you for watching... best wishes Tom
Excellent job pitching and filming. Really proves the stability of the Jannu. Not a huge fan of the internals myself but you can't knock how solid it is.
Hey thank you for your comments and great to hear your thoughts.. The tent is under very little pressure and doing really well... All the very best Tom
Just brilliant! Well done! 👏👏👏
Thank you for your positive feedback.. Really great to hear that you enjoyed the video.. All the very best wishes Tom
Great video Tom, really interesting to see this! The Jannu sure is a brilliant tent!
Hi Phil, great to hear from you so thank you for the comments. Yes I am really happy with the Jannu and pretty sure it will be a keeper. it's now the Akto that's under threat of sale.... Best wishes and thank you once again for your comments and taking the time to watch.. Tom.
@@TOMHEANEY100 could the alto become a Soulo?!?
@@phildorman6638 Hi Phil, not sure what you mean..
Interesting perspective - thanks Tom
Welcome, great to hear from you and your thoughts.. Tom
Great video :)
Hey thank you for your comments and watching the video.. Tom
Amazing
Thank you so much for the positive comments I really appreciate it... Best wishes Tom
Very good Tom.Interested to see your next video on how the jannu faired tail into the wind. On first look I was thinking I would prefer tail into the wind for some shelter with the door open so looking forward to hearing your views on it.
Hi Joe great to hear from you and your thoughts 💭.. I would probably prefer tail into the wind up to about 50mph then swap to vestibule.. All the very best wishes Tom
As usual, great video.. rather immersive I must say. I wanna get to pitch a tent there someday.. I kinda started liking those spots. jeje
Hey, thank you for watching...Great to hear that you are enjoying my video content.. Another video up tomorrow night of the Jannus in the same spot... Its definitely my happy place... All the very best wishes.. Tom
Good to see mate
Hey thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... All the very best wishes Tom
Very good video, thank you very much. I thought one of the poles was damaged, but is bent like this apparently on the Jannu.
Yes the crossing brow pole has a bent section in the middle.. Thank you for the comment.. best wishes Tom
I've been looking forward to this one!
I hope the video delivered ..
Nice video! I'd love to see a shot from inside the tent after set up. Thanks for the content!
Hi Peter you will see that in my next video when I compare the two tents oriented vestibule and tail into the wind.. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.. All the very best wishes Tom
the question is - with the door facing into a 70 km/h wind, how do you open the door without ending up in the atlantic !
Good video Tom, thanks
Thank you Ian, great to hear from you and that you enjoyed the video.. best wishes Tom
Great vid as usual.i think it's really helpful to people to see vids like this.although it does feel a bit counter intuitive to pitch it vestibule into the wind but it works 👍
Hi Craig thanks for the comments and watching of course.. I would have thought 🤔 just like yourself but tent definitely structurally stronger vestibule into wind.. So when the winds get ready mad then that's definitely the best option.. All the very best wishes Tom
Great to see, thanks! 🙂
Hey really glad you enjoyed the video.. Many thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.. All the very best wishes Tom
Wasn’t able to see whether Gary used the red toggle to keep the door zippers closed? (Another Hilleberg benefit for gusty conditions 😃)
Fair point Peter... I suppose this is something we just make sure is done as standard practice so I possibly should have but didn't show it in the video.. It is a great fail safe feature in Hilleberg tents.. All the very best wishes Tom
A man who measures actual windspeed - what use is that when you should be employing wildly exaggerated guesstimates to wow the viewers?
Seriously, this has to be as good as tents get - I've long admired the Jannu on Hilleberg's website etc, so it's great to see it performing on home turf. Great vid.
Hey David, great to hear your thoughts and SOH... The two Jannus are up on display again tomorrow night in another video of them in this wind... One is pitched tail into the wind and the other vestibule.. Will they both stand ha ha??? Gary measured the wind at 44mph, me at 42... . No guesstimates or standing in a different exposed location to get a higher reading on this channel.... All the very best and great to hear you appreciate my content... I try hard... Tom
The Jannu stood surprisingly strong without the guylines. Allak would have been flexing quite a bit more. Thanks for sharing Tom. Hope you're well!
Hi Rob, great to hear from you and to see that you still are interested in Hilleberg tents and videos... I hope that you are doing well and thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... Best wishes Tom
Awesome stuff! The only con about this tent is that the door should be on the other side of the tent since there is no way you would open it for cooking or just looking outside etc but I guess it was no possible to design it this way.
But Im pretty sure it would be ok pitched the other way as well since its Hilleberg.
Yes I will have a video up soon showing both orientations .. There are pros and cons.. The single vestibule keeps the weight of the tent down and the tent is definitely structurally stronger vestibule into the wind.. But you need to manage access carefully and cooking is a little tighter.. All the very best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Still better then my x-mid, its would have been blown away. From tipi tent that I like only Hex Peak v4a or MLD Duomid could maybe manage that wind.
Great demo Tom.....It would be interesting and very useful to see all brands who manufacture 4 season tents do ACTUAL pitching video in real time wind speed conditions instead of claiming that Said tent was tested in a German wind tunnel in controlled conditions etc. Well done lad :)
Hi Olan, this is my point.. The manufacturers probably never will as they don't actually test their products properly.. So many tents have features that are totally impractical for harsh conditions.. All the very best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Spot on :) I am currently in search for a lightweight 4 season tent AND a lottery win because its an expensive search !
I really like to test out my own Jannu and the Kaitum 2gt in the same conditions, looks like it’s really cold, but still you guys seem to use really thin cloths
I like this video
Hey thank you for the comment.. Great to hear that you have these two tents. Not too cold here just windy so light clothing is fine.. Hope you get the conditions you are looking for... Best wishes Tom
It would have been interesting to film inside the tent after it was all pitched and guy'd out to see how noisy and/or flappy it is (or isn't) inside the tent under those conditions. Great video, thanks.
Coming up either tonight or tomorrow night. I decided to split the video into PITCHING and then vestibule Vs tail into the wind.. Editing video now... Thank you fro your comments and thoughts.. Tom
Here in the States Tom the state of Wyoming is really windy also. They have saying instead of using a wind sock to measure the speed of the wind...wyoming people use a chain..lol
Hey I like that one... Heading up for a camp tonight and 40mph winds forecast so that's perfect.. Thank you for the comment and best wishes Tom
Love to have seen what it was like inside in that wind!
Hey no worries my next video will show that and that won't be long to its on RUclips.. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment..All the very best wishes Tom
Did I enjoy this vid half as much as you guys setting up the tent in those conditions? I’m afraid not Tom - that looks like way too much fun to try out. 😊. But I did enjoy the vid as usual! Beats any ‘unboxing video in a sunny backyard’ with 30 knots 💨
Hey thank you for watching and your comment... Great to hear your SOH and that you got some enjoyment from the video... All the very best Tom
Hi Tom. Great video. How does this tent conpare to the Soulo in similar conditions please? I know they are different sized but ignoring that how do they conpare in high winds please. Cheers and all the best. Mark
Hi Mark I have owned both and had out out in similar conditions.. Its a tough one.. The BL Soulo would have the edge I think due to stronger fabrics and less tent volume with the same poles.. I feel though the Jannu would run it close. If the wind hits slightly side on here from the front then the Jannu gets extra support from the Brow pole. In fact the lower position of this brow pole helps combat the extra size of the Jannu... I dont own a BL Soulo so would need to borrow to do a comparison but there is an idea that could work.... Thank you for the comments.. All the very best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks for the reply Tom. I've got the RL soulo.with the 10mm crossing pole so it sounds like the Jannu would edge it!!
All the best and good luck with your channel.
I feel like if tom was in the most picturesque location in the world wild camping, he would be silently disappointed the wasn't 60mph winds to deal with 😆😆
Yes the wind here only reached 44mph which was a bit of a disaster.... No real test for the tent or my experience... I got 60 mph shortly afterwards and that was enough to be honest so check out my in search of 60 video.... Ready for more though.. Hey thank you for the comment it's much appreciated... best wishes Tom
Hi Tom, another top review, thank you.
Question; you said you can specify the 10mm poles, but is that only when buying from the manufacturer?
Hi sorry for the conversation with my choice of words.. You just have to buy them as an extra. Quite a few retailers here in the UK sell them as they are quite popular.. I hope that clarified your question. Best wishes Tom
Great vid as ever Tom. Can you order the tent from Hilleberg with the 10mm poles or do you have get them separately in addition to the 'normal' 9mm poles. All the best Clive.
Hi, Clive that was my mistake... saying you can specify it with 10mm poles.. I should have said that they are an extra that you have to purchase.... Well worth it though in both or opinions... All the very best wishes Tom
Thanks Tom, another brilliant video, especially for us as we are now zeroing in on the Jannu as our all round alpine/travel/hiking tent. To be honest I have pitched another 4 season tent that flexes less, yet weighs the same (Macpac Olympus). So curious if you both had 10mm poles for this video? 70km/hr is at the upper end of normal pitching conditions and we often find a form of shelter like stone wall, or dig into the snow, which reduces the wind shear area significantly and reduce overall flex. But I guess the acid test is whether the tent stayed up all night and didn't get damaged...It was great to see a Jannu being used in typical expedition-like conditions and I hope this goes to the top of the table for RUclips Jannu reviews! Cheers and thanks again.
Looking at them both, the Jannu is a semi geodesic dome and the Macpac is a 3 pole tunnel tent, the Jannu will be stronger against side winds and be less dependant on pitching direction. I think the Macpac isn't free standing? So you'll need to make sure it's guy'ed out really well.
Hi the Macpac is a great tent I am sure as it has 3 poles supporting the structure... This makes it less flappy.. Have looked at Macpacs many times but just not as popular here in the UK... These Jannus need guyed out too that's for sure... Hey thank you for the comments and sharing your thoughts.. All the very best wishes Tom
Hey thank you for the double comment... Yes absolutely both tents on the 10mm poles... A comparison video will be up tomorrow night regarding pitching orientation (Vestibule or tail into the wind). I appreciate your viewing wishes for this one to go to the top... Hope all well in NZ and great to hear of your tent choice and experience.. All the very best wishes.. Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Thanks Tom, I watched your vestibule verses foot end into the wind and also Hilleberg have a video on RUclips showing how vestibule into the wind is the stronger option. The Jannu has many advantages over the Macpac Olympus like interior space and durability, and side-wind strength as you pointed out, so for us it's definitely the Jannu with regular supplied poles in red colour for alpine use. thank you for helping us cinch this decision!
Morning from Australia Tom. Am i right in saying these tents with external poles are easier to pitch in these canditions as you clip the tent upwards rather than trying to stand the tent up whole? Also i noted the pole at the vestibule end looked kinked. Is that “factory”? Great vid
Hi Simon, absolutely as you are building from the ground up and the tent is not exposed and remains with a low profile.. It does however take a bit more time and is a little fiddly BUT will practically allow you to pitch in any conditions. Inner first pitch tent are very vulnerable until completely set up and this is a real practical problem with manufactures ignore and never show you how to do in challenging conditions..... Yes the vestibule or brow pole has a bent section in the middle from the factory... I hope this helps.. best wishes Tom
Tell Petra to add this to the Jannu page! 😂
Hi Matt, not much of a chance of that.. Over 20 videos now which all highly recommend Hilleberg tents on my channel.. Maybe when I hit 50 videos they will sponsor me a tent... All the very best wishes and I hope you enjoyed the video.. Tom
Luke’s mountain - named after someone called Luke who hated camping and wanted to kill all tents. AKA Luke the tent murderer 😂
He will be featured again tonight in my latest video where he takes on two tents 🤣🤣. All the very best wishes Tom
Class Tom, I always get the impression that the covers would be a week point where the wind could get underneath, is that even an issue?
Hi great to hear from you.. The only real issue with the covers is that wind blown rain can get through.. Wind on its own is no issue as these covers are very secure and generally large enough to cover the vents.. All the very best wishes Tom
British winter time? Is that not the Mourne Mountains in Ireland?
Yes that's what we get here.. measured 58mph last August so that's the speed to beat before winter ha ha.. Best wishes Tom
Thanks Tom, very interesting. Question: Why vestibule into the wind seems concerned intuitive?
Hi Marty. There are a few reasons for vestibule into wind. Firstly it’s a much easier set up as the wind keeps the front arc pole in particular seated in the pole sleeve. Rear into wind and the force of the wind actually unseats the arc pole which makes set up more difficult. Also on this tent the vent cover blows away from the tent roof vestibule into wind. This helps with clipping the fly to the poles. If rear into wind the vent cover flaps over the roof creating an obstruction when trying to clip poles. Also the flapping vent ends up tangling the guy lines which can be very messy. Also the tent is structurally much stronger vestibule into wind given the arc pole bracing the longitudinal poles and the guying configuration. This way the vestibule takes the brunt of the wind force and the inner is more isolated from wind loading. Rear into and the inner can suffer deformation. Pitching this way goes against conventional rule of thumb but is actually also recommended by Hilleberg. Long winded (excuse the pun) response but I knew this topic would get the most queries ! Sorry for high jacking your channel Tom lol. Cheers. Gary
Hey Gary I really appreciate you answering this question.. Much better explanation than I could have given.. So Marty I hope that all makes sense.. All the very best wishes Tom
Cheers Gary and Tom.
Now imagine having to put a fly on. No thanks.
I totally agree. One of the main reasons I wouldn't do an inner first pitch tent anymore.. Had at least 7 over the years and got bent poles on every one either putting up or setting down.. Hey I appreciate your comments and watching of course.. All the very best wishes Tom
Please try a saitaris
Yes I would love to and will keep that in mind.. Sourcing tents is not easy and that's the problem.. Thank you for your comments and watching the video.. All the very best wishes Tom
soo its pitched but what happens when y ou open the door in those winds and how to close it again?
Always pros and cons in the real world. You just have to manage it and be careful. Having only one vestibule keeps the weight down but has some draw backs. My next video will talk and demonstrate this a bit more as this was mainly a pitching video.. I appreciate your comments thank you.. All the very best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 Hi but completely avoided the glaring issue , getting into the tent! no point being able to set it up if you cant get in??
@@neilrhodes3879 Not trying to avoid any issues.. This video is about pitching the tent.... That is the title.. It is pitched as recommended by the manufacturer.. YES getting into the tent you need to be careful opening the zip from the bottom at the side and that's just what needs to be managed but still gives the tent greater structural strength.. I hope my next video will answer your question better as it is about the pros and cons.. All the very best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 It would have a taken a few more seconds to show getting in. Thats my point, you cant dedicate a whole video ti getting in a tent, just would have been helpful to cover it at the end, a missed opportunity and left with more questions than answers for me. Others my differ. Well pitched though and good informative video.
@@neilrhodes3879 No worries it's hard to think of every thing when you are out there filming in harsh conditions. Sorry that I missed this for you.. All the very best wishes Tom
Better to have the back of the tent facing the oncoming wind.
Hi I always thought as you do but this is not what Hilleberg recommends.. While it has practical advantages to go back into the wind on this tent it's definitely stronger vestibule into the wind.. Hey I appreciate your comments and thoughts 🤔.. best wishes Tom
@@TOMHEANEY100 surely when you open the zip to get into the tent that would cause issues. If it was not just wind but snow hail rain the tent and contents, they would all enter the tent with obvious results. Snow drift would block the exit also
@@superbadiii4856 look that is fine I get it but under mad conditions strength has to take priority and it's stronger from the front.. You have to manage the other drawbacks. I think the cut off wind speed wise is about 50mph.. It is a tough one.. Wind alone then I have tried and managed no worries in 60mpg.. But snow and spindrift would again be more challenging
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