Excellent and very fair video on two very good tents. I have the Soulo and Tarra for the north of Scotland and love them both. They are ridiculous in price but I cant fault them in any other way. I have been camping for nearly 40 years and have gone through a fair few tents over the years. I can honestly say i wish ide bought Hilleberg sooner. I am not a tent snob. I work dam hard in low paid jobs and save for what i want to buy. Cheers
I think the soulo is a brilliant tent Alan. However it is very expensive and not everybody can justify buying one. I do think that the current price is a little over the top. But i agree with you, I've had some stick in the past because my gear is expensive, but I work hard for it and this is my passion, and how I'd choose to spend my money is up to me. Thank you for watching
I also have a fairly limited income, but I love hiking and camping, so I'm also very happy to save up for good quality gear which performs well and lasts for years. 😊 I was raised to get quality, and only pay once for the item I want! I live very simply, and I work hard, to be able to purchase the good gear I want. I'm currently saving for a Hilleberg tent!! 😁
Start cheap, then upgrade if you need it. You'll get your money's worth with the Naturehike; and if it's not enough tent for you, you can still spend 700 notes on the Hilleberg. Hilleberg is a lovely bit of kit though!
I have a Vango Tempest 300(cost £100) and have wild camped with my lad in some pretty rough weather. The Vango TBS (worth looking up) system is spot on. I do everything on a budget and have never been concerned my gear isn't up to it. You do have to do your research and choose wisely though. Great vids Paul
I like the look of the nature hike cloud peak two and I'm planning on walking the whole of the south west coastal path next year so I think I'll be buying one. Thanks for the review. Great videos Paul keep up the good work.
Mate, you're an absolute natural. These are great videos. No pissing about. Just straight facts from an expert for people who are looking for camping advice. Really well produced content. Nice one and thanks.
@@northernswedenstories1028 I think you are right. The amount of Black Label Hillebergs which actually goes to Antarctica or Tibet are probably less than 5%. #staika on Instagram is a laugh.. Japanese hipsters camping!
Love my Soulo., only use it in winter so needed a quick fix. Its in the car now ready for my next trip with my new Pipe dream 600 bag. Thanks for the video.
I have the nature hike and the staika and I totally agree with everything you've said. As for hilliebergs being overkill in the British mountains as some people have mentioned I don't agree, I've been in some terrible winter storms and you never question how much you've paid for the tent then.
Spot on Will. Last place I'd want to be in 60 MPH gusts is in a Vango Banshee or a Naturehike. They just aren't made for it. I camp in all seasons and all weathers. For me, it gives peace of mind. I know I can trust it will stand up. Thanks for watching.
Great comparison/review video. I have the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 and have been very pleased with it so far. You can see why the Hilleberg is more robust but it is also very expensive. ATB Paul.
For £765(retail), I would hope the Hilleberg was the superior product(for a Hilleberg 2man your'e talking well over £800) I know you are aware of that Paul, just saying. I must say I was expecting you to be biased towards the Hilleberg, pleasantly surprised you didnt do that........hats off to you mate for your honesty, as you said the price of Hillebergs is extortionate.........👍👌
Hi Stu. Obviously I feel the Hilleberg is a better tent, for the nature hike is still good value for money and would be a perfect tent for the everyday wildcamper.
Hello I found your video very useful. I went and bought the naturehike cloud 2 and used it a number of times but found if my sleeping bag touched the inner fabric even when not raining it would be soaked through in the morning. Did you find similar things happened to you? Many thanks Paul Denne.
Im back!! I absolutely love camping but the most ive ever done is go into my garden with a £50 tent and hope I dont die!! Thank you for all these amazing videos reviews!! I hope you continue to grow and produce more amazing content!
Another great video Paul. But I want know what each tent can stand wind wise. I would not buy the hillberg at the price it's at but the nature hike tent looks good enough to me. I had a mamot grid tent in 100mph winds few years back when they had record braking wind over winter was ok found some good wind shelter. I would not use a hilberg on a expedition lol unless that gave me one. Thanks Richard
@@PaulMessner I agree if you want to camp in a exposed area or on top of a mountain but even then alot time you can find some wind protection. I used the marmot grid in the time UK was covered in snow up near scarfell pike as well it's a good cheap 4 season and tent. On a trip to Iceland I did the The Laugavegur Trek one night I camped next to hut and the wardens warned me about a serious storm I was a bit concerned as I don't know what serious storm in Iceland would be like it was just after summer thent seem to be holding up ok but wardens come out in the night tell everybody to get in the hut and it felt like the hut was going blow away my tent survived thought :) .I don't think the marmot grid it's in production any more. I only just this week camped on Ben Nevis funny enough with the Vango F10 but I did check the weather report before handI found that the F10 that can handle up 30mph I say which good for a cheap light weight tent. Thanks Richard
Good comparison film. Always wonderd why Naturehike dont do a single person version, but no doubt Hilleberg will be knocking at there door possibly. My favourite 4 season tent so far is the MSR Access 2 and fantastic as a 2 person yet light enough for 1 person use as well. Used it in bad weather and snow in Scotland and works great. The more people getting into the wildcamping the prices have just rocketed, not just for tents but all gear. Atb
I believe the hillebergs were half the price five or six years ago. The popularity of this hobby has gone through the roof, resulting in higher prices for most gear. The MSR Access looks a fab bit of kit. Can't justify another tent though . Thanks for watching as usual 😂
I see a cloud peak 2 for £62, I saw a few reviews where they said the zips break, I'm thinking of upgrading my tent now, I have £150, thinking of getting the Robens starlight 200 after watching great reviews, or Vango Nevis, cloud up 2 or banshee, I can't decide
Also, a full gear setup recommendation would be awesome for different budget tiers! Eg a tent, bag, and equipment for budget, medium and premium budgets
Hi Paul i am looking for a budget two man tent for weekend wild camping in the lakes with my son i think i have narrowed it down to the cloud peak 2 or the helm 2 which would you recommend? Thanks Steve
Great video again , what tent do u rate the highest ? I use to have the akto use to do alot of winter camping , worse the weather the better, I had to sell up due to money issues back on track now , I'm 6ft one , 18 stone , which would u advise, Also what back pack and size would u recommend, do osprey do a xxl size for the bigger guy? Thanks again
Hi Daz. There are shops that will let you set up a tent and see how it fits you. As for the backpack, Osprey do an app that takes a photo and tells you the pack size you need.
Hi Paul. Please can I ask your opinion? I know you use BOTH the Akto and the Soulo so you know both tents inside out. I have been looking at both, with regard to through camping on the Cape Wrath Trail and summit camping in The Lakes etc. I know they are very different tents, but I need one that will suit my general needs. The Akto is lighter (1.7Kg) and more "mobile" but the head room for me is quite cramped. The Soulo should offer better head room but heavier (2.4Kg) and more stable. I am 6ft 2" tall and average build in my late 50s age. With your experience...and with my requirement, which would you think would be more appropriate. Is 700g extra weight worth the extra robustness etc? I would be very interested in your thoughts....as both are big investments.
My Vango soul 200 tent cost me £40 brand new, I've used it loads of times for 4 years and not a thing wrong with it, been in heavy rain and it remains waterproof, it does exactly what I wanted it to do, £40 quid folks!, my whole set up cost about £150, that's sleeping mat,sleeping bag,tent,backpack,stove and headtorch and I can have excactly the same experience with my gear than if I spent a lot more, it all does what I want it to do , and for me the real star of the show is the natural world
Superb value for money there Steven. If it works for you then I can't fault it. Have you used on any of the summits. I'd be interested to see how the fiberglass poles performed in strong wind. Normally they are notorious for easily snapping. Thanks for watching
@@PaulMessner I live in n.devon so most of the places I go are low elevation, I did camp at the highest spot on Dartmoor and Devon I think,which was 600 meters above sea level it was very windy up there but pitched behind some big stones of the tor , the poles survived, yes I don't think I would take my tent to any of the summits that are a lot higher tho, so if your going up there I guess you would need a better quality tent, I'm lucky living here with temperatures also as it rarely gets below zero here in winter, thanks for your reply
I need to get down to Dartmoor. It looks fabulous. Good to see you using shelter from rocks etc. If you know the limitations of your gear as you clearly do, it's best to take precautions to limit exposure to the elements. I would do the same with all of my tents bar the Soulo. The Soul looks a pretty good design. I like the front entry with a vestibule area for wet boots etc. Yes it's overpriced but will handle all UK conditions.
@@PaulMessner to be fair when I first bought all the gear I was going to get a more expensive tent and other stuff, but my son wanted to come, so I ended up buying 2 of everything and so had to get cheaper, the good thing is now my son hardly ever comes camping I have spare for when my gear eventually breaks
I like your video, thanks for that. I have slept countless nights in all kind of light weight tents, and own since a half year or so now a Hilleberg Unna, which is comparable to the Soulo. In my opinion, Hilleberg is the absolute top, the very best tents I have ever been aware of.
Hi Paul, I'm pleased to see you doing this series so many thanks. You make most of the comparison points easy to understand but I suspect that newbies (like me!) will be drawn to these posts, so a short video explaining the technical jargon would be helpful. Examples are: 1. What does 7001 aluminium mean and is it any good/what's better than it? 2. DWR? 3. Dyneema? Significance of diameter. 4. Peg choices - carbon core? 5. 1200 Curlon? 20/30/70 denier? Triple silicon? Hydrostatic head? Waterproof rating of 15000mm HH? ...you get the idea :-). Great summary by the way - very useful and fair.
I recently started using a MSR Hubba Bubba NX, for the money it's decent quality and still less than half the price of the Soulo. Not sure if it's old age, but not that interested in wet winter wild camps that much anymore. Would still like a Soulo though. Great content once again Paul. ATB Gary
The MSR tents are great and the space inside is awesome. I have heard of their poles giving way in very strong winds though. But I have not experienced this myself but would like to try one and see how I got on with it to give a fair assessment. Thank you for watching
@@PaulMessner I had a pole crack on my Hubba Hubba, not even in strong wind or bad weather, just a defect. Contacted elite mountain supplies where I got it from and had a replacement delivered two days later foc. Apart from that I love the Hubba Hubba
Nice one Paul , as you say the naturehike a great tent for starting out wild camping but not to be relied upon when on summits in high winds . And yes Hilleberg certainly know how to charge but they do deliver a tent you feel safe in . I really like the soulo but will keep my akto for the wilder weather . thanks again Dave.
The Akto is spot on Dave. I had one myself and it performs similar to the Soulo. There's probably even a little more room in the Akto. Thanks for watching
Thanks for this review I am just starting out with wild camping and on a budget to start with, about 150. I really like the nature hike you reviewed but can't can't find one in the UK, do you have any opinions on the Wild country hoolie 2 or another startup that's light weight and can comfortably take upto 2 people. Many thanks.
I have the Solo since 11 years right now, and was one of the first customers who bought it in Germany, when it was offered to the market in spring 2008. I have done several multiple weeks long adventure trips in Iceland with this little bugger ( mostly in the desert Highlands of Iceland ) and it handled all conditions ( storms up to 70miles/h ); I got all my gear and a 110l Gregory Denali Pro Monster backpack in it. It is not light weight, that's for sure. But it is the most bomb proof 1 person bunker I know. BUT JUST BUY YOU SOME DECENT STACKS ( I use Titanium nail sticks for very hard and rocky ground and short 16cm long sand/snow pegs for Gras and sand conditions. If the weather would be as worse, so the Soulo would let you down........it doesn't matter anymore, cause you will be dead anyway 😉! WORLD BEST BAD WEATHER 1P TENT ON THE WORLD MARKET.............PERIODE !
Terra Nova is my personal choice, I've had their Solo1 for well over ten years now and it only gets used in January, February in the Brecon Beacons and Dartmoor, never let me down in all weather's and is not ridiculously priced 👌
Thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. There are differences between premium and budget gear and I agree it would be nice to be able to see the difference and what you are getting for the extra money
The quality of cheap(er) tents these days is amazing. I may pick up a more premium one, somewhere in the future. I’m totally happy with what I’ve got at the moment , I’m only fair weather for now. The Hilleberg is very nice though and the top end manufacturers, are really innovative these days.
The sewing and workmanship on the Naturehike is excellent. It's only the cheaper materials that fall short in tough conditions. For the most part they do a great job.
I love my Hilleberg soulo, I've spent time in the Cairngorms through winter in this tent and hardly budged in extreme winds. Didn't get much sleep due to the noise of the wind though 🙁
The nature hike to me is a 3 season tent I would use it in spring summer and autumn but the hiliberg is too expensive but yes I agree it’s bomb proof in winter really good advice I would recommend the nature hike but I would not recommend the hilliberge because of its price in the uk it would be over kill great video Paul 👍😎
Hi Paul, Would love to see you do a comparison of the Hillerberg Soulo and Akto tents pros/cons with both. I have been watching your videos and I'm super keen on the Akto.... TBH its because its the lightest and cheapest. But I would love to see you do the comparison as I might change my mind and get a Soulo. I will be in the US in a couple of months and will pick either one up whilst Im there....... since you have been using them both, would love to see you do a comparison of the two
What’s the best campsite in the UK. I’m Looking for something scenic and also with a good age group of people as in 21 and looking to camp and meet similar aged people..
Excellent as always Paul You should do more comparisons with tents and test all the brands . I suppose you pay for resistance weight quality user ability . Paul you definitely pick some magical places to camp .
thats a fair test paul .i would like to see if the soulo would out perform the nature hike in bad weather .it should? regardless of price or materials used ? . my question is if i put larger poles in the nature hike would the soulo beat it then in bad weather .? i woukd like to see if the soulo would out perform a terra nova quaser in a storm test ? that would be a great test .old school against new lol . great test atb kev
I like you're reviews of equipment and would like to buy a tent through one of your links. Every one I've clicked on has led to a page where the tent is out of stock. I can find them elsewhere, but if I but from there, you won't get any benefit. Can you post a link to a suggested mid range , 2 man tent for solo use? I will be using it around southern Africa, and rugged / durable is more useful than ultra-light weight or 4 season. Thank you
good comparison, i think its good for people to see this, i know a lot of people think if its the same shape and looks similar in a photo that its the same thing. imagine getting caught out on a storm on a mountain with your faith in a hilleberg shaped tent that is essentially a copy. They have their place though but its good to let people actually see the difference.
A decent 2 man tent is the bowland 2, I've put it up in strong winds and rain and been quite comfortable. Affordable but a bit heavy for some at like 2.3kg. Hope this helps
Very fair Paul as always, would be nice if you could get hold of an Allak as a like for like though we all know the Hilleberg is for heavy and high weather, for everything else the NatureHike does make financial sense. ATB A
Thank for a really good video!! I love your videos and makes me wander travel to the midland. I was wondering why you change from the Akto to the soulo??
Recent subscriber. Just wanted to say how much your videos inspired me to get out. Thank you. Also, if one crops up try and review the Kuiu storm star 2. Recently purchased it and can't find anything anywhere about it. Keep up the excellent work mate 🙂
I agree Anthony. Each tent does what it's designed to do. One is more suited to finer weather and will breathe better...the other is a mountain monster. Thank you for watching as always
An excellent and thorough review Paul. You've hit the nail on the head, yes the Hille is overpriced, but if you camp in all seasons in all weathers, then it's the obvious choice. Have you got any experience of the Lanshan? Kev has picked one up, looks similar to either the MLD solomid or the SMD Lunar Solo. Cheers Robin
Great video Paul, the devil is in the detail and you explained the small differences very clearly and the reasons why they would matter, many thanks for a good and honest comparison.
Thanks Tim. I'm glad you found be useful and the differences were highlighted adequately to give people information they need to make the correct choice when buying a new tent
I love how some people knock the Hillebergs based on price ! If you buy the best you buy once is my take . I don’t own a Hilleberg but they are the best . Although it’s a subjective subject. If you had to pick one tent for ever to cover the essential of staying warm , dry , safe in a pinch . I’ve 4 tents and still counting 😂😂
Very informative! It would be good to get an explanation of some of the technical stuff you mention like the meaning of the waterproofing or aluminium rating. Would love to see more gear comparison reviews.
Yes really thorough review thanks most useful. Definitely get what you pay for but at £700 it could be pushing it somewhat! That said like you say it’s the pro option and will no doubt stand the test of time. Not sure I’d want to leave it for too long though at that price so maybe not the best for camp sites. Thanks again, Paul
Sounds good never thought of that one! Sounds like the patent office calling! You would like to think most people who enjoy the outdoors / camping are pretty honest decent folk though but has crossed my mind when leaving my own tent camping gear etc when out during the day. That said if you end up worrying about it too much it can take the fun out of it. Suppose the bonus with the wild camps is it stays with you! All the best, Paul
Another excellent video Paul. I think a very fair comparison of two tents which look similar but are fundamentally different. I’ve had my Soulo for almost 4 years now and it’s and incredible thing. I’ve been out in some truly awful weather on summits and known that it won’t let me down. And yes, the weather can get that bad in the U.K. such a shame that the prices have shot up so much,I think I paid a similar amount to you but the quality is unsurpassed, they hold their value extremely well and will easily last ten years so I have no regrets.
Like the way you've been fair in this video. some peeps could never pay £765 - just looked online! - for a tent , but there are cheaper options around that are very good, just wondered if you're going to try some MSR tents pls? great vid
Really good review and video, would love a soulo but £765 in the UK!! WOW. Even my Akto which I bought for £420 inc footprint just a few years ago is now knocking on the door of £600... These tents are amazing quality, but I think Hilleberg are going to start forcing people to consider other makes of tent, if they dont help out with the UK pricing. I also feel that the UK wildcamping scene on youtube has been the best advert EVER for Hilleberg- they are all over youtube and the UK hills. So come on Hilleberg -if you can help us out, without reducing quality- Please do!?
I totally agree with everything you said in this comment. It seems like the wild camping community in the UK is growing rapidly and all you see on social media are guys and girls promoting Hilleberg tents. I think part of the reason for the price hike could be at Hilleberg couldn't keep up with production if more units sold at a lower price. That's my theory anyway
Good film Paul. Some camping equipment is far too expensive as most people camp in the better weather. A man with 2 or 3 kids and a car that needs 4 tyres to pass the net MOT doesn't have a lot of disposable income! Therefore comparisons of expensive and budget gear are important.
Great video Paul! Just curious, I have the Akto and can’t sit up in it comfortably. Can you sit upright in the soulo alright? The Unna has me tempted more then the soulo right now tbh
You can sit up in the Soulo no problem at all. Check out Andrew Beavers videos. He's a six footer and it fits him no worries. The unna tempted me too, but the climate in the UK is wet and muddy. I needed a proper vestibule for my gear. The Unna has the virtual one but there's more chance of getting wet/burnt tent if you need to store gear or cook. Hope this helps.
Very interesting comparison. I recently sold my Hilleberg Akto and bought a Naturehike Taga 1 for less than a third of what I got for the used Akto. Completely agree that the Naturehike quality is inferior to Hilleberg, but sufficient for the "everyday guy". I replaced the guy lines and the stakes, but otherwise I am actually quite impressed with the quality. Please keep the good videos coming. I live on the west coast of Norway, and find your videos very useful as the weather here is more or less the same as in northern England and Scotland.
Much of the business of buying tents for me is having FULL CONFIDENCE in my gear. This is why I still run an old external frame Haglöfs rucksack (still only 2kg mind) and a Hilleberg tunnel tent for me and the girlfriend. If I'm out on my own I take a trailstar, and if we are only going on a Weekender trip to nowhere with harsh weather possibilities then we will just take a luxe hexpeak. The Hilleberg is worth the money if you are the sort of person who actually pushes the limits of your gear. Otherwise you may as well get an Ali express option. In my experience the weak points in many tents is their seam construction, of which Hillebergs is exceptional. Strong zippers too
nice one Paul.. a very even review. i think the materials are what usually stand out on the chinese made tents.. they're pretty good facsimiles it's just let down by crappy material (never mind the colours!) though the stitching to be fair is pretty good. i'd definitely be wrapping those upper tie-outs on the naturehike around the pole for extra security.
I agree Rigby. The actual manufacturing and sewing it's very good. What's the materials are not as robust and although the nature hike is marketed as a four season tent, in my opinion it really is not
the soulo is my dream tent, but 750 squid is way beyond my means, I recently bought the Lanshan 2, I'm hoping to try it out and seal everything at the weekend, excellent comparison Paul thanks for taking the time to show us the differences, now if I could sell a kidney, maybe just maybe i could buy the soulo lol ATB Kaizer
Great comparison. However, the quality shines out in the Hilleberg. Personally, I would save up and get the Hilleberg. It will last a lifetime and much warmer too.
For me, on a tight budget, a naturehike mongar 2 was premium purchase! Haha got it last year for £92. 1.9kg & very roomy (using as 1 man). It replaces my budget tent, an argos pro action hike lite 1 man (in orange, the green version from the years before is a tiger paw) which cost me £15!!! Absolute bargain & still got plenty of life in it. I remember exactly when I got it as I ordered the wife (then girlfriend!) the just launched nintendo wii so that's December 2006! I loved it so much I bought the older green version (far better for wild camping) off ebay new & unused for £10! They need waterproofing again now but they are great little compact tents & only weigh 1.6kg
Nice review Paul. I've got the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 for the occasional wildcamps and on campsites in the calmer months. Haven't tried it out yet, but I'm sure it'll be fine for this purpose. I'm '6.3" and also needed a roomy tent on a budget that I could sit up in. atb.......Andy.
I contacted Naturehike and asked why the tent isn't available. They told me that they stopped the production of the peak 2. Luckily it showed up on Amazon today and I was able to order one. :)
I’m an engineer by trade Paul and have been for 30 years and yes the hilleberg is a good tent but I simply cannot justify the price of it.... it’s simply ridiculous ! £750 is unbelievable !
Thumbs up for the good comparison video. I wouldn't classify the Cloud Peak as a "beginner's" tent, nor call the Soulo the "far superior" tent. IMO the CP is the better choice for >90% of the potential users out there on >90% of the occasions they will use it (warning: numbers only used for illustrative purposes). The Soulo is a highly specialized bit of kit meant for those who absolutely, positively, 100% need to know that their gear won't fail them in adverse conditions (or there will be a huge price to pay); or for those with deep pockets for whom brand >>> value for buck.
@@PaulMessner 750 pounds ? X_X Even 150 pounds omg....come on ...no tent on this planet is worth 750 pounds for 1 or two people. How about a review of one of these cheap automatic tents ? www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Cat-Backpacking-Automatic-Waterproof/dp/B072LDVCYD
Excellent review. I don’t need a Soulo but, now, I want one. The Akto is nice to be in with the footprint and no inner. I imagine the Soulo would be, too.
Nice comparison and very fair although I would personally not buy either. I've had two Hillebergs and didn't get on with either of them. Length, flappy inners and major condensation issues in both. The Naturehike looks nice and I'm sure it would be a fine tent, however a local chap recently had several material and hardware failures on his after only a few days he and I have read others suffering the same issues.
That's my worry with the cheaper Chinese tents. You can't really guarantee the materials that they use. The inner of the Hilleberg can be a little floppy but I trust the tend to stand up in high winds which is the most important thing. I do always wear earplugs so I have no problem sleeping
@@PaulMessner There is no doubt the Hille's would withstand pretty much anything chucked at them. The condensation was the major reason I sold mine. I've had a few Chinese tents and I think its luck of the draw, some are very good and some are not. Your video is a good comparison though and gives people just starting out or looking at the Naturehike a good look over it. ATB, Dave
Hello Solomon. i have a couple of storm start tents and 1 staika which is the big brother from the soulo and would make the comparison more even Both are great tents the staika is very easy to set up and holds very good under any circumstance. both are real 4 season tents and the only disadvantage of the staika is the weigh which is due to thicker materials and heavier poles and guy lines. the storm star is lighter but the clips on top to hold the poles where they cross sometimes is a pain to close, gets hotter and develops condensation easier than the staika at the end all depends on personal preference, I'm thinking on getting an allack and see how compares with the storm star and sell my kuius you can't goweong either way
Wish we could get these in Australia...our tents a rubbish even the so called top range doesnt compage to the Soulo....Im looking at buying from overseas cause I cant get anything here...nice tent
Try www.wildearth.com.au Fox! I got my hilleberg Akto from there and with super fast delivery. Search for coupon codes because I found a 15% off to use in the shopping cart and I saved around $180 off the tent, the optional inner mesh and footprint. They are excellent tents and will last a very long time with care and periodic maintenance when needed.
Hey Paul, I'm no wild camper but that doesn't stop me enjoying your videos and reviews, I use tents when I camp prior to some of the ultra marathon events I take part in and was all set from a previous video to dive into the Helm 2? I camp from March to October mainly up in the Lakes and would be good to understand if you'd steer me towards the Helm or Cloud Peak, I tend to go for a 2 man tent because of all the gear I take, never back packing always loaded into a car. Appreciate any guidance, keep up the great content Paul, all the best for adventures ahead, cheers
Thanks for watching Jon. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. The helm 2 is a stronger tent than the nature high, but the nature hike has more internal space so it really boils down to how you want it use the tent. If it's open the windy hills I would choose the helm 2
Just discovered your channel. Used to hike/wild camp but now in a wheelchair - miss it so much, could watch all day. Thank you so much Paul🙏
That must be an annoying situation to say the least. I have Aunts with that very problem and worry about them.
sea kayak?
Excellent and very fair video on two very good tents. I have the Soulo and Tarra for the north of Scotland and love them both. They are ridiculous in price but I cant fault them in any other way. I have been camping for nearly 40 years and have gone through a fair few tents over the years. I can honestly say i wish ide bought Hilleberg sooner. I am not a tent snob. I work dam hard in low paid jobs and save for what i want to buy. Cheers
I think the soulo is a brilliant tent Alan. However it is very expensive and not everybody can justify buying one. I do think that the current price is a little over the top. But i agree with you, I've had some stick in the past because my gear is expensive, but I work hard for it and this is my passion, and how I'd choose to spend my money is up to me. Thank you for watching
I also have a fairly limited income, but I love hiking and camping, so I'm also very happy to save up for good quality gear which performs well and lasts for years. 😊
I was raised to get quality, and only pay once for the item I want!
I live very simply, and I work hard, to be able to purchase the good gear I want.
I'm currently saving for a Hilleberg tent!! 😁
Start cheap, then upgrade if you need it. You'll get your money's worth with the Naturehike; and if it's not enough tent for you, you can still spend 700 notes on the Hilleberg.
Hilleberg is a lovely bit of kit though!
That's great advice. I wouldn't spend huge amount any gear when just starting out.
I have a Vango Tempest 300(cost £100) and have wild camped with my lad in some pretty rough weather. The Vango TBS (worth looking up) system is spot on. I do everything on a budget and have never been concerned my gear isn't up to it. You do have to do your research and choose wisely though. Great vids Paul
My wild country helm 1 is the best one man tent I’ve ever used. Quality, price, weight, head room and porch space, stability, it’s just brilliant.
Agree , I have the compact and it’s spot on 👌🏼
I like the look of the nature hike cloud peak two and I'm planning on walking the whole of the south west coastal path next year so I think I'll be buying one. Thanks for the review. Great videos Paul keep up the good work.
Mate, you're an absolute natural. These are great videos. No pissing about. Just straight facts from an expert for people who are looking for camping advice. Really well produced content. Nice one and thanks.
I wonder how many people go out and but Hilleberg thinking they are the next Polar explorer and use it once in their back garden!
probably countabke on the fingers of one hand, you need to be seriously rich and insane to do that
@@pluggothesluggo5509 judging by the amount of Hillebergs being sold on eBay etc "only used once" I'd say quite a lotn
@@northernswedenstories1028 I think you are right. The amount of Black Label Hillebergs which actually goes to Antarctica or Tibet are probably less than 5%. #staika on Instagram is a laugh.. Japanese hipsters camping!
Paul, would be interested to know how you’d compare a Hilleberg Soulo to a KUIU Storm Star and which one would you prefer. Thanks.
KUIU is outsourced and fine but can’t beat Hilleberg designs, quality and functionality.
Love my Soulo., only use it in winter so needed a quick fix. Its in the car now ready for my next trip with my new Pipe dream 600 bag. Thanks for the video.
I have the nature hike and the staika and I totally agree with everything you've said. As for hilliebergs being overkill in the British mountains as some people have mentioned I don't agree, I've been in some terrible winter storms and you never question how much you've paid for the tent then.
Spot on Will. Last place I'd want to be in 60 MPH gusts is in a Vango Banshee or a Naturehike. They just aren't made for it. I camp in all seasons and all weathers. For me, it gives peace of mind. I know I can trust it will stand up. Thanks for watching.
@@PaulMessner On the west coast of Ireland with a Vango blade 100, 60 mph winds thought it was a proper tent for a 135, I thought wrong.
Great comparison/review video. I have the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 and have been very pleased with it so far. You can see why the Hilleberg is more robust but it is also very expensive. ATB Paul.
For £765(retail), I would hope the Hilleberg was the superior product(for a Hilleberg 2man your'e talking well over £800) I know you are aware of that Paul, just saying. I must say I was expecting you to be biased towards the Hilleberg, pleasantly surprised you didnt do that........hats off to you mate for your honesty, as you said the price of Hillebergs is extortionate.........👍👌
Hi Stu. Obviously I feel the Hilleberg is a better tent, for the nature hike is still good value for money and would be a perfect tent for the everyday wildcamper.
Hello I found your video very useful. I went and bought the naturehike cloud 2 and used it a number of times but found if my sleeping bag touched the inner fabric even when not raining it would be soaked through in the morning. Did you find similar things happened to you? Many thanks Paul Denne.
Im back!! I absolutely love camping but the most ive ever done is go into my garden with a £50 tent and hope I dont die!! Thank you for all these amazing videos reviews!! I hope you continue to grow and produce more amazing content!
Another great video Paul. But I want know what each tent can stand wind wise. I would not buy the hillberg at the price it's at but the nature hike tent looks good enough to me. I had a mamot grid tent in 100mph winds few years back when they had record braking wind over winter was ok found some good wind shelter. I would not use a hilberg on a expedition lol unless that gave me one. Thanks Richard
The marmot tents are supposed to be awesome. I would like to see both of the tents in high winds but wouldn't want to be in the Naturehike at the time
@@PaulMessner I agree if you want to camp in a exposed area or on top of a mountain but even then alot time you can find some wind protection. I used the marmot grid in the time UK was covered in snow up near scarfell pike as well it's a good cheap 4 season and tent. On a trip to Iceland I did the The Laugavegur Trek one night I camped next to hut and the wardens warned me about a serious storm I was a bit concerned as I don't know what serious storm in Iceland would be like it was just after summer thent seem to be holding up ok but wardens come out in the night tell everybody to get in the hut and it felt like the hut was going blow away my tent survived thought :) .I don't think the marmot grid it's in production any more. I only just this week camped on Ben Nevis funny enough with the Vango F10 but I did check the weather report before handI found that the F10 that can handle up 30mph I say which good for a cheap light weight tent. Thanks Richard
Is there a budget 4 season then that will do the job?
I was looking at a Cloudpeak until this video.
Hilleberg is ridiciously expensive. But also amazing quality. I have slept in a Hilleberg from mid-70s and it was still silly good tent.
Good comparison film. Always wonderd why Naturehike dont do a single person version, but no doubt Hilleberg will be knocking at there door possibly. My favourite 4 season tent so far is the MSR Access 2 and fantastic as a 2 person yet light enough for 1 person use as well. Used it in bad weather and snow in Scotland and works great. The more people getting into the wildcamping the prices have just rocketed, not just for tents but all gear. Atb
I believe the hillebergs were half the price five or six years ago. The popularity of this hobby has gone through the roof, resulting in higher prices for most gear. The MSR Access looks a fab bit of kit. Can't justify another tent though . Thanks for watching as usual 😂
I see a cloud peak 2 for £62, I saw a few reviews where they said the zips break, I'm thinking of upgrading my tent now, I have £150, thinking of getting the Robens starlight 200 after watching great reviews, or Vango Nevis, cloud up 2 or banshee, I can't decide
Also, a full gear setup recommendation would be awesome for different budget tiers! Eg a tent, bag, and equipment for budget, medium and premium budgets
Budget tent coming up soon
whats the purpose of the top material, it's much smaller than the fly or outer tent. Is there a vent on top that it's covering?
Hi Paul i am looking for a budget two man tent for weekend wild camping in the lakes with my son i think i have narrowed it down to the cloud peak 2 or the helm 2 which would you recommend? Thanks Steve
Great video again , what tent do u rate the highest ?
I use to have the akto use to do alot of winter camping , worse the weather the better, I had to sell up due to money issues back on track now , I'm 6ft one , 18 stone , which would u advise, Also what back pack and size would u recommend, do osprey do a xxl size for the bigger guy?
Thanks again
Hi Daz. There are shops that will let you set up a tent and see how it fits you. As for the backpack, Osprey do an app that takes a photo and tells you the pack size you need.
@@PaulMessner Thanks Paul
Is the budget one waterproof and wind breaker?
Hi Paul. Please can I ask your opinion? I know you use BOTH the Akto and the Soulo so you know both tents inside out. I have been looking at both, with regard to through camping on the Cape Wrath Trail and summit camping in The Lakes etc. I know they are very different tents, but I need one that will suit my general needs. The Akto is lighter (1.7Kg) and more "mobile" but the head room for me is quite cramped. The Soulo should offer better head room but heavier (2.4Kg) and more stable. I am 6ft 2" tall and average build in my late 50s age. With your experience...and with my requirement, which would you think would be more appropriate.
Is 700g extra weight worth the extra robustness etc? I would be very interested in your thoughts....as both are big investments.
Neil Farrimond get the soulo. The extra weight is worth it. 👍
My Vango soul 200 tent cost me £40 brand new, I've used it loads of times for 4 years and not a thing wrong with it, been in heavy rain and it remains waterproof, it does exactly what I wanted it to do, £40 quid folks!, my whole set up cost about £150, that's sleeping mat,sleeping bag,tent,backpack,stove and headtorch and I can have excactly the same experience with my gear than if I spent a lot more, it all does what I want it to do , and for me the real star of the show is the natural world
Superb value for money there Steven. If it works for you then I can't fault it. Have you used on any of the summits. I'd be interested to see how the fiberglass poles performed in strong wind. Normally they are notorious for easily snapping. Thanks for watching
@@PaulMessner I live in n.devon so most of the places I go are low elevation, I did camp at the highest spot on Dartmoor and Devon I think,which was 600 meters above sea level it was very windy up there but pitched behind some big stones of the tor , the poles survived, yes I don't think I would take my tent to any of the summits that are a lot higher tho, so if your going up there I guess you would need a better quality tent, I'm lucky living here with temperatures also as it rarely gets below zero here in winter, thanks for your reply
I need to get down to Dartmoor. It looks fabulous. Good to see you using shelter from rocks etc. If you know the limitations of your gear as you clearly do, it's best to take precautions to limit exposure to the elements. I would do the same with all of my tents bar the Soulo. The Soul looks a pretty good design. I like the front entry with a vestibule area for wet boots etc. Yes it's overpriced but will handle all UK conditions.
@@PaulMessner to be fair when I first bought all the gear I was going to get a more expensive tent and other stuff, but my son wanted to come, so I ended up buying 2 of everything and so had to get cheaper, the good thing is now my son hardly ever comes camping I have spare for when my gear eventually breaks
I have the same tent! Ive only used it a few times, one wild camp. But seems to be absolutely brilliant for the price so far.
I like your video, thanks for that. I have slept countless nights in all kind of light weight tents, and own since a half year or so now a Hilleberg Unna, which is comparable to the Soulo. In my opinion, Hilleberg is the absolute top, the very best tents I have ever been aware of.
The quality and strength of the Hilleberg tents our superb. This can make them a little heavy for use in milder weather.
You´re right. But I personally prefer to use just one tent for all situations, one that you can always rely on, no matter what.
Really good to see this comparison, Paul. Thanks for taking the time.
Cheers Olly. I'm glad you found this one useful
Does the internal tent on the nature tent detach like the hillerberg. cheers
Hi Paul, I'm pleased to see you doing this series so many thanks. You make most of the comparison points easy to understand but I suspect that newbies (like me!) will be drawn to these posts, so a short video explaining the technical jargon would be helpful. Examples are:
1. What does 7001 aluminium mean and is it any good/what's better than it?
2. DWR?
3. Dyneema? Significance of diameter.
4. Peg choices - carbon core?
5. 1200 Curlon? 20/30/70 denier? Triple silicon? Hydrostatic head? Waterproof rating of 15000mm HH?
...you get the idea :-). Great summary by the way - very useful and fair.
Great point there. I'll try and answer this in my next video
I recently started using a MSR Hubba Bubba NX, for the money it's decent quality and still less than half the price of the Soulo. Not sure if it's old age, but not that interested in wet winter wild camps that much anymore. Would still like a Soulo though. Great content once again Paul. ATB Gary
The MSR tents are great and the space inside is awesome. I have heard of their poles giving way in very strong winds though. But I have not experienced this myself but would like to try one and see how I got on with it to give a fair assessment. Thank you for watching
@@PaulMessner I use a Wild Country Helm 2 in the winter. It's never let me down, and the value for money it represents takes some beating.
@@PaulMessner I had a pole crack on my Hubba Hubba, not even in strong wind or bad weather, just a defect. Contacted elite mountain supplies where I got it from and had a replacement delivered two days later foc. Apart from that I love the Hubba Hubba
Nice one Paul , as you say the naturehike a great tent for starting out wild camping but not to be relied upon when on summits in high winds . And yes Hilleberg certainly know how to charge but they do deliver a tent you feel safe in . I really like the soulo but will keep my akto for the wilder weather . thanks again Dave.
The Akto is spot on Dave. I had one myself and it performs similar to the Soulo. There's probably even a little more room in the Akto. Thanks for watching
Thanks for this review I am just starting out with wild camping and on a budget to start with, about 150. I really like the nature hike you reviewed but can't can't find one in the UK, do you have any opinions on the Wild country hoolie 2 or another startup that's light weight and can comfortably take upto 2 people. Many thanks.
Wild country make some decent tents
@@PaulMessner I've managed to bag my a nature hike cloud peak 2 off ebay. It'll get tested next week up the long mynd.
like the video just purchased a scorpion 3 what do you think of them thanks.
I have the Solo since 11 years right now, and was one of the first customers who bought it in Germany, when it was offered to the market in spring 2008.
I have done several multiple weeks long adventure trips in Iceland with this little bugger ( mostly in the desert Highlands of Iceland ) and it handled all conditions ( storms up to 70miles/h ); I got all my gear and a 110l Gregory Denali Pro Monster backpack in it. It is not light weight, that's for sure. But it is the most bomb proof 1 person bunker I know. BUT JUST BUY YOU SOME DECENT STACKS ( I use Titanium nail sticks for very hard and rocky ground and short 16cm long sand/snow pegs for Gras and sand conditions.
If the weather would be as worse, so the Soulo would let you down........it doesn't matter anymore, cause you will be dead anyway 😉!
WORLD BEST BAD WEATHER 1P TENT ON THE WORLD MARKET.............PERIODE !
It's a fabulous tent. I would trust it to cope with any trip within the UK.
Terra Nova is my personal choice, I've had their Solo1 for well over ten years now and it only gets used in January, February in the Brecon Beacons and Dartmoor, never let me down in all weather's and is not ridiculously priced 👌
I have a Terra Nova photon 1. I love it. It's what I use on longer hikes
@@PaulMessner Nice, they do make exceedingly good tents.
Awesome video, wish more of these budget v premium backpacking vids were made. Good job Paul.
Thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. There are differences between premium and budget gear and I agree it would be nice to be able to see the difference and what you are getting for the extra money
The quality of cheap(er) tents these days is amazing. I may pick up a more premium one, somewhere in the future. I’m totally happy with what I’ve got at the moment , I’m only fair weather for now. The Hilleberg is very nice though and the top end manufacturers, are really innovative these days.
The sewing and workmanship on the Naturehike is excellent. It's only the cheaper materials that fall short in tough conditions. For the most part they do a great job.
I love my Hilleberg soulo, I've spent time in the Cairngorms through winter in this tent and hardly budged in extreme winds. Didn't get much sleep due to the noise of the wind though 🙁
not getting much sleep in a storm is part of the fun though
The nature hike to me is a 3 season tent I would use it in spring summer and autumn but the hiliberg is too expensive but yes I agree it’s bomb proof in winter really good advice I would recommend the nature hike but I would not recommend the hilliberge because of its price in the uk it would be over kill great video Paul 👍😎
Hei Paul! Do we need footprint for Suolo in a snowy ground? More so in winter camping? I haven’t tried it but with a Suolo I might next winter...
You don't need it but it does help a bit to reduce condensation
Have you tried the Vango F10 Xenon at all or heard anything regarding them? I am considering it as a beginners tent.
hi Caroline there very good tents , quite well made and rather light for the physical size a good mountaineering tent
My cloud peak arrived a week ago, absolutely awesome tent.
An excellent and impartial review Paul I was looking for a tent to start out with. You have help to make my choices easier
Glad you've found it useful Dessie and let me know what tent you opt for in the end.
Hi Paul, Would love to see you do a comparison of the Hillerberg Soulo and Akto tents pros/cons with both. I have been watching your videos and I'm super keen on the Akto.... TBH its because its the lightest and cheapest. But I would love to see you do the comparison as I might change my mind and get a Soulo.
I will be in the US in a couple of months and will pick either one up whilst Im there....... since you have been using them both, would love to see you do a comparison of the two
What’s the best campsite in the UK. I’m
Looking for something scenic and also with a good age group of people as in 21 and looking to camp and meet similar aged people..
Have you tried wrapping the outer guys on the Cloud-Up 2 frame?
Excellent as always Paul
You should do more comparisons with tents and test all the brands .
I suppose you pay for resistance weight quality user ability .
Paul you definitely pick some magical places to camp .
thats a fair test paul .i would like to see if the soulo would out perform the nature hike in bad weather .it should? regardless of price or materials used ? . my question is if i put larger poles in the nature hike would the soulo beat it then in bad weather .? i woukd like to see if the soulo would out perform a terra nova quaser in a storm test ? that would be a great test .old school against new lol . great test atb kev
I like you're reviews of equipment and would like to buy a tent through one of your links. Every one I've clicked on has led to a page where the tent is out of stock. I can find them elsewhere, but if I but from there, you won't get any benefit. Can you post a link to a suggested mid range , 2 man tent for solo use? I will be using it around southern Africa, and rugged / durable is more useful than ultra-light weight or 4 season.
Thank you
430 in the morning and I should be asleep but I’m watching a video on compassions on different types of tent and I’m not even into camping 😂
Well its either tents or films about Hitler.
same!!
Cracking video Paul, I love my soulo, I always feel secure in it, when up in the mountains, yes expensive, but you get what you pay for 👍
I agree Paul that you do get what you pay for however I still feel the Soulo is getting a little too expensive now. Thank you for watching
good comparison, i think its good for people to see this, i know a lot of people think if its the same shape and looks similar in a photo that its the same thing. imagine getting caught out on a storm on a mountain with your faith in a hilleberg shaped tent that is essentially a copy. They have their place though but its good to let people actually see the difference.
Spot on Martin. Each tent has it's merits but you can't just buy anything and pitch it on a mountain and expect it to perform. Thanks for watching.
Paul what u think of desert fox tent
I've not tried it so can't really say.
A decent 2 man tent is the bowland 2, I've put it up in strong winds and rain and been quite comfortable. Affordable but a bit heavy for some at like 2.3kg.
Hope this helps
Thank you 👍
Very fair Paul as always, would be nice if you could get hold of an Allak as a like for like though we all know the Hilleberg is for heavy and high weather, for everything else the NatureHike does make financial sense. ATB A
I would love to own an Allak to replace the nature hike but I just can't justify that price. Thanks for watching
I mean the Soulo looks nice but do it really deserve being x4-x5 more expensive.... I'm not quite sure....
more than 10x in my country, lol...
Thank for a really good video!! I love your videos and makes me wander travel to the midland. I was wondering why you change from the Akto to the soulo??
Sorry lake lands
Recent subscriber. Just wanted to say how much your videos inspired me to get out. Thank you.
Also, if one crops up try and review the Kuiu storm star 2. Recently purchased it and can't find anything anywhere about it.
Keep up the excellent work mate 🙂
A very thorough and fair review Paul. Each have their merits, top-notch filming and editing as always. 👍👍👍
I agree Anthony. Each tent does what it's designed to do. One is more suited to finer weather and will breathe better...the other is a mountain monster. Thank you for watching as always
An excellent and thorough review Paul. You've hit the nail on the head, yes the Hille is overpriced, but if you camp in all seasons in all weathers, then it's the obvious choice.
Have you got any experience of the Lanshan? Kev has picked one up, looks similar to either the MLD solomid or the SMD Lunar Solo.
Cheers
Robin
I want to try the Lanshan, Robin. I will pick one up hopefully and test it out. Thanks for watching.
@@PaulMessner no probs chief. 👍🏼
I have the Lanshan 2 with the 4 season inner. Excellent tent. Used in the Cumbrian Way and a couple of wet camps.
Need to look into this tent.
Great video Paul, the devil is in the detail and you explained the small differences very clearly and the reasons why they would matter, many thanks for a good and honest comparison.
Thanks Tim. I'm glad you found be useful and the differences were highlighted adequately to give people information they need to make the correct choice when buying a new tent
I love how some people knock the Hillebergs based on price ! If you buy the best you buy once is my take . I don’t own a Hilleberg but they are the best . Although it’s a subjective subject. If you had to pick one tent for ever to cover the essential of staying warm , dry , safe in a pinch . I’ve 4 tents and still counting 😂😂
Great to see a fair comparison. Just starting out so thanks for this. Looking at Lan Shan 2 for summer lightweight camps.
I am really interested in the lanshan 2 myself if you get one please let me know how you find it
Very informative! It would be good to get an explanation of some of the technical stuff you mention like the meaning of the waterproofing or aluminium rating. Would love to see more gear comparison reviews.
Brilliant, looking forward to this, thanks for reviewing.
Hope you like it
Yes really thorough review thanks most useful. Definitely get what you pay for but at £700 it could be pushing it somewhat! That said like you say it’s the pro option and will no doubt stand the test of time. Not sure I’d want to leave it for too long though at that price so maybe not the best for camp sites.
Thanks again, Paul
That's my worry too at campsites. You wouldn't leave your mountain bike unchained. Maybe I need to develop a tent security system 😂
Sounds good never thought of that one! Sounds like the patent office calling!
You would like to think most people who enjoy the outdoors / camping are pretty honest decent folk though but has crossed my mind when leaving my own tent camping gear etc when out during the day. That said if you end up worrying about it too much it can take the fun out of it. Suppose the bonus with the wild camps is it stays with you!
All the best, Paul
Another excellent video Paul. I think a very fair comparison of two tents which look similar but are fundamentally different. I’ve had my Soulo for almost 4 years now and it’s and incredible thing. I’ve been out in some truly awful weather on summits and known that it won’t let me down. And yes, the weather can get that bad in the U.K. such a shame that the prices have shot up so much,I think I paid a similar amount to you but the quality is unsurpassed, they hold their value extremely well and will easily last ten years so I have no regrets.
As always, a great video. What is that watch you are wearing? Is there a link somewhere?
This is the watch I use
amzn.to/2IrBxkF
I have had it about 4 years and love it. It has compass, temperature and it's very tough
Like the way you've been fair in this video. some peeps could never pay £765 - just looked online! - for a tent , but there are cheaper options around that are very good, just wondered if you're going to try some MSR tents pls? great vid
I'm glad that you enjoyed the video. I'm sure at some point I will get hold of an MSR tent to try out and show you how I get on with it
Great video Paul! Would be great to see a video on a full budget/beginners camping set up i.e tent, rucksack, stove etc. Keep up the great content!
Really good review and video, would love a soulo but £765 in the UK!! WOW. Even my Akto which I bought for £420 inc footprint just a few years ago is now knocking on the door of £600... These tents are amazing quality, but I think Hilleberg are going to start forcing people to consider other makes of tent, if they dont help out with the UK pricing. I also feel that the UK wildcamping scene on youtube has been the best advert EVER for Hilleberg- they are all over youtube and the UK hills. So come on Hilleberg -if you can help us out, without reducing quality- Please do!?
I totally agree with everything you said in this comment. It seems like the wild camping community in the UK is growing rapidly and all you see on social media are guys and girls promoting Hilleberg tents. I think part of the reason for the price hike could be at Hilleberg couldn't keep up with production if more units sold at a lower price. That's my theory anyway
I was thinking of getting a footprint for my Suolo until I saw this video. So I won’t get one for now. 😁 Nice videos Paul! 👍🏼
Good film Paul. Some camping equipment is far too expensive as most people camp in the better weather.
A man with 2 or 3 kids and a car that needs 4 tyres to pass the net MOT doesn't have a lot of disposable income!
Therefore comparisons of expensive and budget gear are important.
Great video Paul. Great comparison and great information about the tent pegs. 👍
Glad you found this one helpful Robert
I don't even go camping but strangely I loved watching this video lol
Fully reviewed. Thanks Paulie boy, keep it up!
Thanks Diego
Great video Paul! Just curious, I have the Akto and can’t sit up in it comfortably. Can you sit upright in the soulo alright? The Unna has me tempted more then the soulo right now tbh
You can sit up in the Soulo no problem at all. Check out Andrew Beavers videos. He's a six footer and it fits him no worries. The unna tempted me too, but the climate in the UK is wet and muddy. I needed a proper vestibule for my gear. The Unna has the virtual one but there's more chance of getting wet/burnt tent if you need to store gear or cook. Hope this helps.
Helps a lot. Thanks!
@@TimShieff I would like to see some more camping videos, you could have a separate channel for camping
Very interesting comparison. I recently sold my Hilleberg Akto and bought a Naturehike Taga 1 for less than a third of what I got for the used Akto. Completely agree that the Naturehike quality is inferior to Hilleberg, but sufficient for the "everyday guy". I replaced the guy lines and the stakes, but otherwise I am actually quite impressed with the quality. Please keep the good videos coming. I live on the west coast of Norway, and find your videos very useful as the weather here is more or less the same as in northern England and Scotland.
You made a great point there Jan. For the everyday guy the naturehike tent just perfect
Much of the business of buying tents for me is having FULL CONFIDENCE in my gear. This is why I still run an old external frame Haglöfs rucksack (still only 2kg mind) and a Hilleberg tunnel tent for me and the girlfriend. If I'm out on my own I take a trailstar, and if we are only going on a Weekender trip to nowhere with harsh weather possibilities then we will just take a luxe hexpeak. The Hilleberg is worth the money if you are the sort of person who actually pushes the limits of your gear. Otherwise you may as well get an Ali express option. In my experience the weak points in many tents is their seam construction, of which Hillebergs is exceptional. Strong zippers too
nice one Paul.. a very even review. i think the materials are what usually stand out on the chinese made tents.. they're pretty good facsimiles it's just let down by crappy material (never mind the colours!) though the stitching to be fair is pretty good. i'd definitely be wrapping those upper tie-outs on the naturehike around the pole for extra security.
I agree Rigby. The actual manufacturing and sewing it's very good. What's the materials are not as robust and although the nature hike is marketed as a four season tent, in my opinion it really is not
It always makes me smile when tents have velcro on the outside zip, how would you use that from inside lol
You open the zip first
the soulo is my dream tent, but 750 squid is way beyond my means, I recently bought the Lanshan 2, I'm hoping to try it out and seal everything at the weekend, excellent comparison Paul thanks for taking the time to show us the differences, now if I could sell a kidney, maybe just maybe i could buy the soulo lol ATB Kaizer
Please let me know how you get on with it kaiser as I really like the look of the lanshan tent
@@PaulMessner will do Paul
Great comparison. However, the quality shines out in the Hilleberg. Personally, I would save up and get the Hilleberg. It will last a lifetime and much warmer too.
For me, on a tight budget, a naturehike mongar 2 was premium purchase! Haha got it last year for £92. 1.9kg & very roomy (using as 1 man). It replaces my budget tent, an argos pro action hike lite 1 man (in orange, the green version from the years before is a tiger paw) which cost me £15!!! Absolute bargain & still got plenty of life in it. I remember exactly when I got it as I ordered the wife (then girlfriend!) the just launched nintendo wii so that's December 2006! I loved it so much I bought the older green version (far better for wild camping) off ebay new & unused for £10! They need waterproofing again now but they are great little compact tents & only weigh 1.6kg
Nice review Paul. I've got the Naturehike Cloud Peak 2 for the occasional wildcamps and on campsites in the calmer months. Haven't tried it out yet, but I'm sure it'll be fine for this purpose. I'm '6.3" and also needed a roomy tent on a budget that I could sit up in.
atb.......Andy.
Naturehike cloud peak 2 the great choice for the occasional wildcamper. I'm sure you'll enjoy using it
Great video Paul. Thanks for that. All the best.
Glad you enjoyed the video rooster
I contacted Naturehike and asked why the tent isn't available. They told me that they stopped the production of the peak 2. Luckily it showed up on Amazon today and I was able to order one. :)
Nature hike it is then 😳 cheers paul
Glad you found it helpful
I’m an engineer by trade Paul and have been for 30 years and yes the hilleberg is a good tent but I simply cannot justify the price of it.... it’s simply ridiculous ! £750 is unbelievable !
Far too expensive nowadays in my opinion too. Still the best 1 man tent though...again my opinion.
I didnt even pay that for my 2007 Audi A4
Thumbs up for the good comparison video.
I wouldn't classify the Cloud Peak as a "beginner's" tent, nor call the Soulo the "far superior" tent. IMO the CP is the better choice for >90% of the potential users out there on >90% of the occasions they will use it (warning: numbers only used for illustrative purposes). The Soulo is a highly specialized bit of kit meant for those who absolutely, positively, 100% need to know that their gear won't fail them in adverse conditions (or there will be a huge price to pay); or for those with deep pockets for whom brand >>> value for buck.
Decathlon budget tents for the win.
Why the guys ropes so far out?
Interesting video. Thanks for the info.
Glad you found it useful Marco
@@PaulMessner 750 pounds ? X_X Even 150 pounds omg....come on ...no tent on this planet is worth 750 pounds for 1 or two people. How about a review of one of these cheap automatic tents ? www.amazon.co.uk/Night-Cat-Backpacking-Automatic-Waterproof/dp/B072LDVCYD
Excellent review. I don’t need a Soulo but, now, I want one. The Akto is nice to be in with the footprint and no inner. I imagine the Soulo would be, too.
I used to have the Akto John, but once I had seen the soulo in the flesh, it became my dream tent.
Nice comparison and very fair although I would personally not buy either.
I've had two Hillebergs and didn't get on with either of them. Length, flappy inners and major condensation issues in both.
The Naturehike looks nice and I'm sure it would be a fine tent, however a local chap recently had several material and hardware failures on his after only a few days he and I have read others suffering the same issues.
That's my worry with the cheaper Chinese tents. You can't really guarantee the materials that they use. The inner of the Hilleberg can be a little floppy but I trust the tend to stand up in high winds which is the most important thing. I do always wear earplugs so I have no problem sleeping
@@PaulMessner There is no doubt the Hille's would withstand pretty much anything chucked at them. The condensation was the major reason I sold mine.
I've had a few Chinese tents and I think its luck of the draw, some are very good and some are not.
Your video is a good comparison though and gives people just starting out or looking at the Naturehike a good look over it. ATB, Dave
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Thanks for watching mate
Hello Solomon. i have a couple of storm start tents and 1 staika which is the big brother from the soulo and would make the comparison more even Both are great tents the staika is very easy to set up and holds very good under any circumstance. both are real 4 season tents and the only disadvantage of the staika is the weigh which is due to thicker materials and heavier poles and guy lines. the storm star is lighter but the clips on top to hold the poles where they cross sometimes is a pain to close, gets hotter and develops condensation easier than the staika
at the end all depends on personal preference, I'm thinking on getting an allack and see how compares with the storm star and sell my kuius
you can't goweong either way
Wish we could get these in Australia...our tents a rubbish even the so called top range doesnt compage to the Soulo....Im looking at buying from overseas cause I cant get anything here...nice tent
Gd point not much choice here
Try www.wildearth.com.au Fox! I got my hilleberg Akto from there and with super fast delivery. Search for coupon codes because I found a 15% off to use in the shopping cart and I saved around $180 off the tent, the optional inner mesh and footprint. They are excellent tents and will last a very long time with care and periodic maintenance when needed.
Hey Paul, I'm no wild camper but that doesn't stop me enjoying your videos and reviews, I use tents when I camp prior to some of the ultra marathon events I take part in and was all set from a previous video to dive into the Helm 2? I camp from March to October mainly up in the Lakes and would be good to understand if you'd steer me towards the Helm or Cloud Peak, I tend to go for a 2 man tent because of all the gear I take, never back packing always loaded into a car. Appreciate any guidance, keep up the great content Paul, all the best for adventures ahead, cheers
Thanks for watching Jon. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. The helm 2 is a stronger tent than the nature high, but the nature hike has more internal space so it really boils down to how you want it use the tent. If it's open the windy hills I would choose the helm 2
@@PaulMessner Cheers Paul and all the best