The Spiciest Esports Feuds That Will Never End

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
  • Whether it’s two fan bases frothing at the mouth in the comments section, or a pro blasting his org on Twitter, there are plenty of spicy feuds in esports. And look, people love to hate and it can even be cathartic so long as you don't let it consume you. But most of the people on today's list let their animosity get the better of them. Here are the spiciest feuds in esports.
    Written by: Devin Coull (@Fake_DevinCoull)
    Edited by: Colten Gowan (@TheOnlyZoltan)
    Hosted by: Devin Coull (@Fake_DevinCoull)
    Produced by: Brendan Fahey (@Drillbit_) & Danielle Rosen (@Daniel_Rosen)
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  • @DKtrek21
    @DKtrek21 Год назад +184

    Dota vs League is by far the spiciest feuds across all esports. Most Dota players will say that LOL is the easy mode of their game (which is kinda true) and LOL players will always say Dota is a dead game (which is also kinda true. They just hate each other's playerbase AND I love that banter between them because at the end of the day, BOTH are toxic af.

    • @KatarHero72
      @KatarHero72 Год назад +33

      Most LoL players honestly won't give a shit. It isn't a competition and hasn't been for near a decade.

    • @lucidare
      @lucidare Год назад +26

      @@KatarHero72 yeah csgo players always hating on valorant cuz valorant is more popular than csgo same on dota. dota 2 hates league cuz league of more popular than dota 2.
      in the end of the day valorant and league players doesnt care about the other games only csgo and dota 2 players starts the trashtalking cuz their game is being outshadowed

    • @somejuan8877
      @somejuan8877 Год назад +14

      LoL players will say league is shit but play anyway. Some doesn't even know what dota is.

    • @angelovl1337
      @angelovl1337 Год назад +2

      @@lucidare facts lol

    • @bell3996
      @bell3996 Год назад +5

      @@lucidare"my brain is too small for dota"

  • @jessejohn7406
    @jessejohn7406 Год назад +39

    The Fly vs N0tail has got to be the most real life anime shit out there

    • @kylarcheng1346
      @kylarcheng1346 Год назад +7

      All 5 OG members have their own anime arcs

  • @CR0WYT
    @CR0WYT Год назад +163

    For the CS and Val debate, as someone who plays both regularly, they're both very good. CS is the OG that never ages and never needs to change, but Val gives the classic shooter a twist by bringing in new unique maps and agents with new abilities keeping the game fresh and exciting.

    • @kumarraj197
      @kumarraj197 Год назад +3

      Conclusion?

    • @CR0WYT
      @CR0WYT Год назад +36

      @@kumarraj197 play whatever you want. They're both good for their own reasons.

    • @shaunry
      @shaunry Год назад +3

      I play CS for practicing aim/nostalgia while also goofing off, while I hop on Val for agent practice, building weird team comps and goof off in a different way. Both are very good but it mainly depends on the mood. Pissed off, hop on CS and awp/auto enemy team on Dust2. Bored, hop on valor ant with raze and her ult

    • @miscellaneousmanta3288
      @miscellaneousmanta3288 Год назад +4

      Crow u r the god that no one deserved but everyone needed

    • @secktuss9610
      @secktuss9610 Год назад

      "unique maps"

  • @elmaridrisov2491
    @elmaridrisov2491 Год назад +41

    CS is too good of a game. Imho, the best (tactical shooter) game ever. Hasn't gotten boring even after 20 years.

    • @savagegecko4575
      @savagegecko4575 Год назад +7

      Facts been playing since 99 and I played valorant the first few months of release and I wasn't a fan. CSGO is just too good.

    • @sandipsingharoy9737
      @sandipsingharoy9737 Год назад

      It was never fun to play when only dust 2 and fucking mirage match making in other maps takes ages yeah but it's fun when find matches but until they remove map selection I am not playing it again

    • @bargun3943
      @bargun3943 Год назад +1

      It's a bit repetitive but yeah the core aspects of gameplay are just amazing and this is coming from a valortard

    • @srikausthubhah1729
      @srikausthubhah1729 Год назад +2

      @@sandipsingharoy9737 Ofc you don't get games on other maps on Indian servers. Go increase your max ping and queue on sgp(~50ms) for other maps, it doesn't take long.

    • @ICCraider
      @ICCraider Год назад +3

      What CSGO needs is valorant's vanguard. And it'd become the best game ever. Here in Asia we get a waller every 2 games. They're really good at hiding it so you'll have to review your replay to spot one if they're on the enemy team but there's always a waller. Which really killed CSGO for me. Valorant has its charms but CSGO is just better. IDK nor can I say why but CSGO just feels better.

  • @keshavnuwal7991
    @keshavnuwal7991 Год назад +34

    The ending one was good plus sad as well, but i love these revenge stories 😂

  • @lunamia96
    @lunamia96 Год назад +11

    That fly v notail drama is the most exhilarating thing that happened in dota 2 pro scene history and i doubt we’re gonna get anything of similar level in the future.
    Glad i got to see it live!

    • @skar9556
      @skar9556 Год назад

      We did get secret vs OG feud in year 2021. That was fun to watch.

  • @fAC1L3
    @fAC1L3 Год назад +4

    I told my friend that I play VALORANT he was like “sorry only English,no trash “

  • @dhennywahyuditaruna2422
    @dhennywahyuditaruna2422 Год назад +47

    Ive played both but mostly valorant now since most of my friend only play it now (almost all of my csgo friends already too old and working lol), well valorant is fun and the esports scene is also good because of the diversity and how so many underdogs like prx, zeta and drx can go really far in a competition. But man nothing can beat cs. The game itself is really good and now that valve starting to care abd make changes in csgo, im excited for the game next years. And of course the tradition and culture in its esports scene is arguably the best across all esports. Valorant vct still miles behind any iem and blast event let alone the major in term of production, atmosphere and hype. Theres a reason why cs is still big after 22 years because those that already dive deep into it cant really forget the feelings of playing and watching it

    • @ahtiulanen6122
      @ahtiulanen6122 Год назад

      Bruh valve only makes changes after majors unless something needs a hot fix lmao

    • @uresfffff222
      @uresfffff222 Год назад +4

      i think valve is doing a good job right lot less cheaters and game is mostly balenced *cough* *cough* m4 a1s

    • @walkingmoyai9463
      @walkingmoyai9463 Год назад

      bro did you see the major final? basically no one put heroic vs outsiders in their pick'ems, so the underdog argument doesn’t really mean anything

    • @z3r0_80
      @z3r0_80 Год назад +3

      @@ahtiulanen6122 and yet game is in a 1000x better spot than valorant

    • @ahtiulanen6122
      @ahtiulanen6122 Год назад

      @@z3r0_80 I wouldn't call a game that the devs don't care about being in a better spot than a game that for better or for worse has active development going on, if valve cared about cs, it would have a team combatting toxicity, it doesn't, I can call anyone anything I want in all chat without the fear of getting banned from days to months to years, updates would be more frequent etc. I'd say valve cares less about cs than respawn and ea put together care about the state of apex, and that's saying something imo

  • @Jan-sv4tr
    @Jan-sv4tr Год назад +48

    Never end? It never started. Csgo is miles clear without any doubt

    • @hyp3r129
      @hyp3r129 Год назад +4

      You cs players started it. You can’t accept that valorant is being more played than cs. Just because it’s different doesn’t make the game bad.

    • @Jan-sv4tr
      @Jan-sv4tr Год назад +11

      @@hyp3r129 pleas show me the stat where you got that Valorant is played more. And if you have seriously tried both games (I did) it’s just undeniable that Cs has the much higher skill curve through the player base and is just the tactical shooter number 1.

    • @esc3107
      @esc3107 Год назад +1

      Check cs go views on twitch when na'vi isn't playing kekw. There's literally 0 community engagement in csgo ranked, cs fans only show themshelves when they get a break from their job to watch the esport scene (which is also getting carried by brazilians and russians btw).

    • @LethargicCarcass
      @LethargicCarcass Год назад +1

      @@Jan-sv4tr CS only has a higher skill curve because people have been playing basically the same game for over a decade.

    • @mohamaditani6160
      @mohamaditani6160 Год назад +5

      @@esc3107 meanwhile valorant pro scene is soo bad they need twitch drops for views. imagine going a tourny in valorant, 10yo with their parents xd. CS is still one of the best esports in the world.

  • @jarifahmed977
    @jarifahmed977 Год назад +17

    Even if Valorant doesn't beat CS in terms of eSports or anything, I don't care. I enjoy playing it and that matters the most to me.
    Fighting over each other won't give you anything. The companies won't send you a paycheck for your impressive performance on showing, why one is better than the other. Just play whichever game you enjoy the most.
    But I certainly want both companies to compete with each other to bring better and better games for us. Competition is from what we benefit from.

  • @oscarhuang6552
    @oscarhuang6552 Год назад +17

    "healthy competition hurts nobody"
    *looking at what Riot did to Dota 2 scene years ago*

    • @randomno1030
      @randomno1030 Год назад +1

      What happen? Sorry i rarely play most competitive game currently

    • @siddhartha894
      @siddhartha894 Год назад

      @@randomno1030 League pretty much killed the Dota 2 Chinese scene. Its now the lowest server of any region. Most pros play on SEA servers now.

    • @drinu8619
      @drinu8619 Год назад +4

      @@randomno1030 one riot dev who managed and has access to dota forum (because he was working on dota before he worked for riot) shut down/lock the forum, which was at the time the biggest forum for dota. The site become an ad for LOL and redirect visitor to LOL instead.
      That was devastating because then people can't download newest dota version without the forum, so a lot of people can't play. The forum also had a lot of champions/heroes ideas, which dota players can't access anymore.
      More or less that's what happened from what I remember. Thus dota players hate not lol players but lol/riot.

    • @sinsei2165
      @sinsei2165 Год назад +4

      @@drinu8619 ahh the pendragon incident. Tho, that was like a decade ago. People need to move on.

    • @drinu8619
      @drinu8619 Год назад +7

      @@sinsei2165 yea, but most already moved on tho. its just that most league players are really young and they dont know why dota players hate league. nowadays both playerbase just enjoy each game to their own. i dont play anymore, but i like to watch both, league has world, dota has TI. both are great.

  • @bergieoldschool
    @bergieoldschool Год назад +15

    I used to like the idea of valorant. But man im to much of a boomer to keep up with new agents all the time. Same thing with LoL. Sometime, it's just too much. Maybe when you only play Valorant it's fine. But I have other games to play, it's not like I want to be a pro player and dedicate all my time on one game. What I also dislike is the fact that some agent becomes irrelevant or that if you pick some agent you can't use the OP or you get flamed. It is so obnoxious! it's in my buy menu and I can't use it because of some dumbass agent meta? I checked out.

    • @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988
      @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Год назад +1

      @@apparentlyihavenoprivacy5877 tbh, the toxic image you've heard and saw online is mostly because of NA. NA is the worst and most toxic server in all games being followed by Brazil and SEA. The other 2 servers is also a toxic wasteland, but its not as bad as NA.

    • @bergieoldschool
      @bergieoldschool Год назад +1

      @@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 from my experience, valorant was more toxic. More immature kids. not saying csgo is not toxic, but from my experience people on valorant were way more immature and toxic.

    • @purplewine7362
      @purplewine7362 Год назад

      @Apparentlyihave Noprivacy skill issue. Cs players need to realise that it's different from valorant and you cannot play valorant like you play cs.

  • @tourneyearnie
    @tourneyearnie Год назад +1

    Shoutout to Devin with the Pennzoil Racing jacket! More racing attire!!!!!

  • @everett2367
    @everett2367 Год назад +2

    IdrA vs Everyone in classic start craft, def on of my favorites

  • @andorifjohn
    @andorifjohn Год назад +1

    The maps and _some_ of the agent abilities in Valorant is really refreshing.

  • @tongrook7369
    @tongrook7369 Год назад +1

    Smash melee community vs Nintendo has to be the spiciest feud in all of esports

  • @bigguy4002
    @bigguy4002 Год назад +10

    cs vs valorant is srsly the most one sided rivalry ever, in dota vs lol or halo vs cod, ppl argue for both sides but for cs vs val its 99% of the time just cs players constatnly shitting on val

    • @GemaPratamaAditya
      @GemaPratamaAditya Год назад +1

      wheres the val players shitting on cs?

    • @AnonimowyGd
      @AnonimowyGd Год назад +3

      @@GemaPratamaAditya Val players don't care about Cs

  • @derpinglemon4577
    @derpinglemon4577 Год назад +1

    I love valorant and I'm not even playing it. CSGO updated a few weeks after Valorants release and now we have new maps and operators.

  • @Ultrabuu85
    @Ultrabuu85 Год назад

    OG was the biggest anime betrayal ever.

  • @DiabolicNick
    @DiabolicNick Год назад +3

    Banks calls people clout chasers but has "code tfue" tattooed on his leg lulw.

  • @justineluizpedrina2503
    @justineluizpedrina2503 Год назад

    Love the list, just forgot about Carlos and FNTC

  • @yamiRic
    @yamiRic Год назад

    Fly vs notail is the thing that made me watching TI. I never got interested into DOTA 2 scene before that happened.

  • @johnwallace4333
    @johnwallace4333 Год назад +7

    You skipped the storied Mang0 vs Leffen and Mang0 vs HBOX timelines for Regi vs Dlift?!

  • @oui6794
    @oui6794 Год назад +6

    Why wasn't Astralis and Liquid mentioned. Or the Astralis and Heroic? Genuinely Surprised that atleast Astralis and Liquid wasnt mentioned.

  • @visiongap6042
    @visiongap6042 Год назад +6

    Where the fgc feuds at? You could make a whole video of just their beef

    • @azuro2202
      @azuro2202 Год назад

      True!!

    • @johndoh9395
      @johndoh9395 Год назад

      They probably saving it for another video?

    • @visiongap6042
      @visiongap6042 Год назад

      @@johndoh9395 I hope so. I would like to watch that.

  • @marcsenase
    @marcsenase Год назад +2

    How about Mobile Gaming vs Console and/or PC Gaming

  • @AbishekRajkumar2k
    @AbishekRajkumar2k Год назад

    This debate isn’t gonna end as long as both game have players..

  • @seanseifermann9569
    @seanseifermann9569 Год назад

    i fw the fitted my dawg

  • @nileshsingh3082
    @nileshsingh3082 Год назад

    You forgot about turbopolsa's redemption

  • @trade4trade792
    @trade4trade792 Год назад

    Tf2 vs overwatch basically

  • @TheLitequeso
    @TheLitequeso Год назад

    Oh damn it's Beef!

  • @hecksters423
    @hecksters423 Год назад +3

    Regarding #4, the saying goes: The French's biggest enemy is the French.
    #8: Who am I kidding, Fly followed the shekels and you know it!

  • @justsomerandompotato1986
    @justsomerandompotato1986 Год назад +1

    Well happy Riot releases Valorant. That way Lourd Gaben stands on his chair and let the team work more on CS GO.

  • @CaesarSalad19
    @CaesarSalad19 Год назад

    It has died down…but Astralis vs Liquid. Mainly in 2018-2019 but during Antwerp, nitro called out astralis saying he “wasn’t scared of them anymore”
    Can’t blame anyone for not being scared of Astralis compared to their God lineup but still…
    Though hard to call it a rivalry when Astralis beat them almost every chance they got. They literally went 13-1 in 2018 against Liquid with the one loss being a bo1 in London that they avenged in the semi finals.
    Of course the best moment was in Berlin. Astralis picking Vertigo will forever be legendary

  • @xyzen9673
    @xyzen9673 Год назад +2

    Dota vs League is such a spicy take, because most league players dont care about the feud. While dota players just love to escalate things... League players dont care because we hate our own game

    • @cqstlupin6074
      @cqstlupin6074 Год назад

      in the philippines, its about league and mlbb instead of dota 2

    • @xyzen9673
      @xyzen9673 Год назад +1

      @@cqstlupin6074 not really ... Mlbb is way more popular in PH. because of 3 main things.
      It was present longer, its easy on the phone, and lastly its kinda pay2win(skins give stats) so women play it more, and men give skins more... Simp gaming.

    • @takkipusa6910
      @takkipusa6910 Год назад

      This is not true. The animosity between two community can be pinned down mostly on the Pendragon/riot vs the dota game and the community.

  • @xSwagnarok
    @xSwagnarok Год назад

    Recycling material

  • @Mikazuki_Augus
    @Mikazuki_Augus Год назад +1

    for the csgo and val debate i play both and having fun time playing them.. if you're a simple guy like me who just want to play and have fun just ignore this kind of sh*t

    • @KillJoy78
      @KillJoy78 Год назад

      People just have too much free time on the internet to let their own one sided opinion & ego be known to everyone as if it matters🤧😹 we’re all better off ignoring this kind of dumb shit

  • @p0kel
    @p0kel Год назад +316

    Valorant is temporary CS is forever

    • @berseerkz
      @berseerkz Год назад +17

      How can you say Valorant is temporary? CS paved the way for Valorant but it’s bold to say it’s temporary. You never know.

    • @pandey2170
      @pandey2170 Год назад +26

      My man doesn't simp on hentai games. Sigma! 😎😎😎

    • @ts05pro
      @ts05pro Год назад

      @@petervelenik3456 agree brother

    • @inosukehashibara5930
      @inosukehashibara5930 Год назад +1

      @@berseerkz in my region valorant takes a long que to get into match and it seems the player base slowly fading but when i played cs in just 10 sec. I'm already in the match but most of my team i had seems like pro i didn't even get any kills after the game started.

    • @DKtrek21
      @DKtrek21 Год назад +22

      Sad to say to you but Valorant is spreading like wildfire in some regions. Hope it doesn't kill CS like League did to Dota.

  • @alisater4270
    @alisater4270 Год назад +2

    I don't know why, but I feel like thescore's content is either being recycled or is just dropping in quality of interest and variety. The need to force a video is beyond my own reasoning and it's somehow unexplainable. Yes, they do tackle A LOT of the news coming out and obviously recap all the events happening in the competitive scene, but some certain videos are not particularly needed or even requested by fans or watchers. It somehow feels like there is a contract that is binding those content creators to release a video or two daily, no matter how dead the current scene is. For instance, this video is somehow relevant to recent events that took place on the competitive stage, but that was already tackled in another video that they themselves published recently. I'm not trying to be a buzzkill or direct negativity to the creators, I just don't feel like a subscription is in order, cause none of their content is "original" anymore. I know my sub won't do a slight dent in their outstanding 1.99M subs, but I would rather sub to a creator with honest and original videos, rather than recycled old material with a new flashy title to milk the youtube ad revenue. I find it kind of sad in a way, since this channel was the only way I could get up-to-date with the competitive scene/new releases after a long week of work and studying, but now most of the videos are way longer than they should be, with information being delivered as slow as possible to elongate the minutes and force more ads to roll.

    • @saadmik3222
      @saadmik3222 Год назад

      Agree with u,
      Some of liz contents feels almost same,
      Mayb its in their contract

    • @alisater4270
      @alisater4270 Год назад

      @@saadmik3222 whatever it is, it's a shame honestly!

  • @Penguinrex09
    @Penguinrex09 Год назад

    bout damn time yall cover cod again kinda god dammit

  • @z3r0_80
    @z3r0_80 Год назад +2

    cs vs val isnt a debate at this point.... csgo is way better and its showed in the fact its still #1 on steam charts and is a top 3 esport in terms of viewership behind only dota and league. Val will ALWAYS be behind with no workshop/community support.

  • @alexanderrose1071
    @alexanderrose1071 Год назад

    What’s a CS?

  • @bell3996
    @bell3996 Год назад +1

    league players can't comprehend how hard dota is lmao

  • @surveyor1515
    @surveyor1515 Год назад

    TriHard [Middlefinger] Valorant

  • @jamilangon5798
    @jamilangon5798 Год назад

    Fly: "I join EG because I believe they have the biggest potential to win TI"
    Notail: "2 time back to back champions, DUMBASS" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @takkipusa6910
      @takkipusa6910 Год назад

      There is more than this than what you wrote. Imagine a notail carry in ti8. Will that win them to?

  • @patrickneumann9381
    @patrickneumann9381 Год назад

    Nadeshot/100T vs Nickmercs

  • @ankan_mitra
    @ankan_mitra Год назад +1

    Comparing CS to any other FPS game is an insult to CS. Please don't!

  • @memelorddabble632
    @memelorddabble632 Год назад +6

    CS is a better competitive game, Valorant is a better casual game. I like both, sue me.

  • @ACE112ACE112
    @ACE112ACE112 Год назад

    4:43 time when****

  • @tutowo7304
    @tutowo7304 Год назад

    How is Notail vs Fly a feud when Fly doesn't hate Notail?

  • @robertfancyman3873
    @robertfancyman3873 Год назад +6

    The CS vs Val feud seems very 1-sided. I don't know why, but some CS players are really passionate about shitting on Valorant.

    • @nknguyen2877
      @nknguyen2877 Год назад +5

      just like some Valo peeps are also equally passionate about shitting on CS. it’s just one of those feud that i occasionally enjoy with some popcorn

    • @robertfancyman3873
      @robertfancyman3873 Год назад +1

      ​@@nknguyen2877 I suppose it could make for decent entertainment, however I hope it dies down soon. No-one wants a re-run of the LoL vs Dota2 feud; better for everyone if we're all just friendly.

    • @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988
      @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Год назад

      @@robertfancyman3873 you're wishing for something that's basically impossible. The feud between dota and lol is still ongoing even though its already been a decade since it started.

    • @travelsizedhispasian
      @travelsizedhispasian Год назад

      it's just a matter of personal preferences and opinions if you think about it.
      as an example-personally, as someone who _should_ enjoy Valorant 'cause it targets with my demographic-i definitely prefer CS:GO over Val lol
      not shitting on Valorant here tho, 'cause the game _is_ good and enjoyable to play, along with:
      - containing a younger demographic
      - a change of pace due to its operators, which can bring different/new outcomes in its gameplay loop
      - aesthetically pleasing art direction/visuals
      - "feels fresh"
      - other positive things that i honestly can't think of to list/too lazy to list
      i just happen to prefer CS:GO 'cause it:
      - requires a greater amount of mechanical skill/aim compared to Valorant
      - feels responsive/smooth, compared to Valorant which feels a bit clunky/laggy despite having similar ping/framerate
      - has a higher/steeper learning curve
      - has a greater, if not, noticeably present competitive edge
      - (to me) feels satisfying to get kills, especially headshots.
      once again, Valorant isn't bad or anything. i just happen to enjoy CS:GO more 'cause it ticks all the boxes for what i personally like in a tactical FPS game-nor do i think it's "copying" CS:GO either. just as how i see COD MWII's DMZ mode as the casual/"arcade-like" second cousin of Tarkov, where it takes some elements from the latter-Valorant takes some notable elements from CS:GO but provides the added twist of "Heroes" from Overwatch; both games derive/build on the "bomb defusal" scenario, but they have different ways and means of approaching it.

    • @purplewine7362
      @purplewine7362 Год назад +2

      @@nknguyen2877 OK but I want to know WHY are cs players so insecure? On every valorant video you can find a cs man-child whining. The opposite cases are far fewer in proportion.

  • @Nortick01
    @Nortick01 Год назад +9

    Valorant is fun and all but csgo is just too good. Valorant is just small and compact with just shooting but in CSGO you can play surfing, bhop , play random mode in different services and my favourite HNS. New kids of valorant will never know the feeling of jumping around building in HNS TYO and Nova

    • @ICCraider
      @ICCraider Год назад +1

      Not just that but even the movement feels crisper in CSGO.

    • @Nortick01
      @Nortick01 Год назад

      @@ICCraider yeah bro

  • @thenormalman2030
    @thenormalman2030 Год назад

    fly vs notail damn

  • @rodrigoseabra7299
    @rodrigoseabra7299 Год назад +1

    Fnatic vs Nip

  • @seraph6009
    @seraph6009 Год назад +1

    CSGO vs Valorant is just cheater hell vs fatherless edating simulator
    I'd rather die to aimbot than listen to edaters sorry
    Real reason:
    As someone who views Quake Live as the most competitive FPS, I personally don't wanna fight against abilities. I wanna lose just because I'm the worse player given the exact same chess pieces (or in the case of CS, almost the exact same), not because my teammate died and now no one can fill their role therefore reinforcing the teammate factor of losing a game. In CSGO, I'm able to purchase any utility I want and adapt my playstyle accordingly to how the game plays out and I also could have the potential to make up for a teammate that's just contributing nothing. Valorant locks me with the same set of utility for an entire match, and as a human being I can't be 100% consistent in the role I am most confident in but I am not allowed to fall-back to a different role that I may fill better while my other teammates could take over. I like to compare both games to actual sports and in my eyes, CSGO is much closer to an actual sport than Valorant and that is why I heavily prefer CSGO.
    I do agree that Valorant does a lot of things good. A really good anticheat, 128tick servers, better matchmaking without the help of third-party clients. It's probably a sign for Valve to step the fuck up. But the design of the game just isn't for me. I cannot stand abilities such as flashes that go through walls with barely any warning, stuns that you can't get away from because you got unlucky due to a perfect setup, and a design that leads to losses because one teammate just can't do their job right for that match and that is why I can't view Valorant (or even Overwatch for that matter) in a competitive light. Call me a stubborn boomer but hey, to each their own.

  • @kalarse
    @kalarse Год назад

    Hbox vs Leffn is very missing
    Or anyone vs lffn to say at least xd

  • @karlfernando
    @karlfernando Год назад +1

    Still fly and notail

  • @pattikeyk2910
    @pattikeyk2910 Год назад

    Ml vs league.Classic 🤣

  • @pongpeerakingsuwankul2020
    @pongpeerakingsuwankul2020 Год назад

    Zombs vs Brazil :)

  • @tesseract_uk
    @tesseract_uk Год назад +4

    if valorant tried to be tangibly different from CS the feud wouldn’t even be a thing. making a game that’s CSGO but with nerfed Overwatch abilities will invite unfavourable comparisons

    • @puthandlehere
      @puthandlehere Год назад

      Well, it worked for Valorant, let them ride it out. At least it's not Overwatch, a game that had no business being an esport but became an esport anyways.

    • @purplewine7362
      @purplewine7362 Год назад +2

      Most of the "feud" is just cstards malding, though
      The feud will end if cs manbabies stopped being so insecure

  • @wici4572
    @wici4572 Год назад +16

    Overwatch, 2016 CS:GO killer - *dead*
    Fortnite, 2017 CS:GO killer - *dead*
    Apex Legends, 2019 CS:GO killer - *dead*
    Valorant, 2020 CS:GO killer - *dead*
    The only thing that can kill CS:GO and tries to do it for many years is Valve.

    • @elmaridrisov2491
      @elmaridrisov2491 Год назад +10

      At this point even Valve itself can't kill CS xD CS is too good and too fun to play.

    • @spyrothedragon091
      @spyrothedragon091 Год назад +8

      Apex and val dead? 🤣

    • @VeeZzz123
      @VeeZzz123 Год назад +2

      delusional

    • @mohamaditani6160
      @mohamaditani6160 Год назад +6

      @@spyrothedragon091 imagine val, needs twitch drops enabled for views lolol. pro scene in val sucks.

    • @MaF1e
      @MaF1e Год назад +4

      Overwatch 2016 TF2 killer - both dead
      Fortnite 2017 PUBG killer - both dead
      Apex Legends 2019 fortnite killer - both dead Warzone alive
      Valorant, well not dead yet but I'd bet it will meet same fate as ow, people get used to new content, new content impossible to balance
      CS is alive not just because it's a fun game, it's a whole ecosystem, there's trading, community servers, competitive services, usual matchmaking for fun, gambling, workshop, esports. Maybe lacks a bit in big content creators. But in reality I hate watching streams of both, much better to play it yourself.
      There won't be a game like it because CS is not just the game itself.

  • @purplewine7362
    @purplewine7362 Год назад

    Most of the cs "feud" vs valorant players not caring and cs manbabies malding. Evidence: look at every valorant video/short/story on this channel forever

  • @ohihassan693
    @ohihassan693 Год назад +4

    For Fly, i wont be surprised if it was his gf who pushed him for it.

  • @ACE112ACE112
    @ACE112ACE112 Год назад

    Who won the tfue va. faze lawsuits?

  • @MoSungMinHH
    @MoSungMinHH Год назад +3

    csgo is surperior, in every way.

    • @angelovl1337
      @angelovl1337 Год назад

      how lmfao

    • @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988
      @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Год назад

      @@angelovl1337 because you're not restricted on what gun to use. You're basically dead most of the time picking up OP in valorant if you don't have escape like chamber and jett. Also, since agents like chamber and jett exists, you can play risky because you have a free out of jail card if you miss a shot.

  • @Archaline
    @Archaline Год назад +2

    All the while CSGO traders earn thousands of dollars right now and Valorant players smile sadly with their skins just being plain aesthetics.

    • @alexanderrose1071
      @alexanderrose1071 Год назад

      This isn’t the win you think it is lol. Enjoy your NFTs

    • @Archaline
      @Archaline Год назад

      @@alexanderrose1071 For me, it is a valid point tho because it is relevant. It may be the only make or break argument there is. Legit win.

    • @alexanderrose1071
      @alexanderrose1071 Год назад +2

      @@Archaline that feels very sad, to me

  • @r3b3l33
    @r3b3l33 Год назад

    I don't play CS. I haven't played CS for more than 2 hour in my entire life. I've played valorant from launch. I can Confidently say CS is so much better than Valorant.

  • @kyledabearsfan
    @kyledabearsfan Год назад +2

    Do people actually care about val or cs? Just play the one you like.

  • @cyrus_76
    @cyrus_76 Год назад

    People who think Val is going to die should atleast wait for the franchise. I mean its Riot they know what to do get views and have been successful with League with the last worlds getting 5+ million views.

    • @swaglee6503
      @swaglee6503 Год назад

      Sry but i just can't imagine Valorant being active in 2030

  • @puckerbutton7025
    @puckerbutton7025 Год назад

    PC MASTER RACE!!!!!!

  • @AnonimowyGd
    @AnonimowyGd Год назад

    I don't understand why people compare Valorant to Cs:go, I play both games and I can tell they are different games, not similar, and I don't understand why Cs:go players think that their 20 year old game without updates is so much better from a game that is not even similar, maybe the game mode is almost the same but the game mechanics and everything else is not similar..

  • @icaruspandas
    @icaruspandas Год назад

    Where's leffen vs Jigglypuff

  • @cziemba1
    @cziemba1 Год назад +4

    This is just watchmojo for "gamers" lmfao

    • @Wienerdog5
      @Wienerdog5 Год назад

      And theres actual effort put into these videos unlike with watchmojo.

  • @gregorioiiialas8407
    @gregorioiiialas8407 Год назад

    I wanted to see Mobile Legends vs Wild Rift in here but i think its only relevant for mobile gamers which is not real gamers for some.

  • @kfs_hellbourne7525
    @kfs_hellbourne7525 Год назад +1

    wheres na vs eu (jk its obviously eu)

  • @findmi2708
    @findmi2708 Год назад +1

    When dota 2 and LoL released, fan base of each these game fought for nothing, and now even on these both fps games? These people are just bunch of narrow-minded, just play both game then you Decide which one is best suited for you

    • @purplewine7362
      @purplewine7362 Год назад +1

      In both these cases it's just daddy gaben's children malding. Same as 10 years ago.

  • @MultiStarboard
    @MultiStarboard Год назад

    NUMBER 4 I SWEAR IM DEAD :D:D:D

  • @notcheeks
    @notcheeks Год назад

    MnK reigns supreme

  • @sandipsingharoy9737
    @sandipsingharoy9737 Год назад

    Only eu play CS in Asia valorant is more popular heck it takes 20minutes to get a match in cs where get valorant in 10 sec na plays a little bit of both

    • @thekingadam6972
      @thekingadam6972 Год назад

      If Valor get Chinese market it wouldn't even be close

    • @uresfffff222
      @uresfffff222 Год назад +1

      you forgot about south america countries like brazil where csgo is like a religion

  • @xyr3s
    @xyr3s Год назад

    Haven't fly and notail already made up?

  • @jefflowkowski5906
    @jefflowkowski5906 Год назад

    Nice

  • @svihl666
    @svihl666 Год назад

    11:03 / 11:10

  • @svihl666
    @svihl666 Год назад

    10:42 / 11:10

  • @GodDiggetyDoodle
    @GodDiggetyDoodle Год назад +4

    Day 20 of asking for a TI video

    • @Indubitably_Pol
      @Indubitably_Pol Год назад

      Honestly though, TI kinda sucked this year, no real good runs or story lines. Though I suppose its unfair, we had OG back to back wins with TI8 probably being the best of all time. TS 's win last year alone was amazing. TI11 is just so mid by comparison.
      That being said, would not mind some dota content once in a while from this channel.

    • @Steelhart69420
      @Steelhart69420 Год назад

      @@Indubitably_Pol I think that the games, with the exception of the final being an absolute snooze fest with the zoo/wraith pact strategy and shocking production issues, were better than TI10. What the hell do you mean there were no good story lines, were we watching the same tournament??? RNG took Entity to a 100+ minute elimination game when all of RNG minus xNova got quarantined, Thunder Awaken came out of nowhere to embarrass a dramatically underachieving EG squad and nearly upended Liquid in a banger series to put South America on the map, PSG.LGD choked against Aster, Matumbaman went on one last great run to cap off his career, and Secret and Liquid made it to the final 3 despite both of them going through the last chance qualifiers. How are none of those great storylines?

  • @TransparentEclipse
    @TransparentEclipse Год назад +7

    Csgo has barely changed in the past decade and it still is one of the best games ever. Valorant is an entirely different game now than when it launched, and neither version or anything in between is better than csgo. Tells u everything u need to know

    • @cl00oob29
      @cl00oob29 Год назад +3

      Why does one have to be better why can’t people prefer what they prefer

    • @aviralaryal7332
      @aviralaryal7332 Год назад

      Not that I'm defending valorant but CS has been evolving for more than 20 years of it's lifetime, it too started out as different than what it is now.

    • @purplewine7362
      @purplewine7362 Год назад

      "here's my opinion which I'm passing off as fact"
      "tells u everything u need to know" ☝️🤓

  • @1ns1ght_l1
    @1ns1ght_l1 Год назад +6

    When I hear that valorant great game I start to laugh. It has n0thing unique, whacky gunplay and meta problems

  • @simoneichhorn481
    @simoneichhorn481 Год назад

    Valorant beats csgo, the only reason ppl play cs is because of nostalgia. Cs has no content, nobody plays the game regularly, matchmaking is terrible, and every game you play you have a cheater

  • @Plozi89
    @Plozi89 Год назад +1

    I wish people would stop comparing CS and Valorant the way that they are doing. Mechanically Valorant is closer to that of OW gameplay. It's literally just OW put into a CS defusal mode setting.

  • @33smimu
    @33smimu Год назад

    Valorant is full of CS rejects and retirees.

  • @controllertakes0skill278
    @controllertakes0skill278 Год назад +3

    In reality there’s no feud. Valorant is literally a knock off that doesn’t have the player base or viewer base CS has or ever will

    • @fvjxznvueaepd8u
      @fvjxznvueaepd8u Год назад +2

      Unfortunately val has more playerbase than cs now,,, if you don't live in asia you don't have any idea how big the game is...

    • @purplewine7362
      @purplewine7362 Год назад +3

      I agree there is no feud. It's just incessant whining about valorant from insecure cs manchildren.

    • @controllertakes0skill278
      @controllertakes0skill278 Год назад

      @@fvjxznvueaepd8u yeah I’m not a slope and you’re just wrong moron check and player base statistic

  • @pawuc
    @pawuc Год назад

    valorant is just a dating lobby

  • @pandey2170
    @pandey2170 Год назад +23

    Ofc CS:GO is just better and original.

    • @nova661
      @nova661 Год назад +6

      Funny joke, now smoke heaven already so jett can entry

    • @arsenkurmangali2997
      @arsenkurmangali2997 Год назад +1

      @@nova661 based

    • @cloudzly9331
      @cloudzly9331 Год назад +2

      ​​@@nova661 oldest valorant player:

    • @ItsTrimmer
      @ItsTrimmer Год назад +3

      They're both cool honestly, I like having the diversity both of them bring to competitive games.

  • @Horikita181
    @Horikita181 Год назад

    That depends on person to person I don't like cs beacuse dull colours and not friendly gameplay for me

  • @awpixo
    @awpixo Год назад

    first :D

  • @carsonblythe7873
    @carsonblythe7873 Год назад

    They are the same thing both aren’t particularly hard or skilled games

  • @Relax_MaTs
    @Relax_MaTs Год назад

    Stewie2k mental streng is trash. he choke/tilt so easy.

    • @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988
      @themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Год назад

      Team is basically down the trash if Stewie is the IGL. Guy got a bad mentality in the game and need someone that is hard to tilt watch over him ingame.

  • @kimchit22
    @kimchit22 Год назад

    valorant namba wan
    cs namba to

  • @JUNKIEANIMORPH
    @JUNKIEANIMORPH Год назад

    DoubleLift is the jealous sad ex lmao

  • @cl00oob29
    @cl00oob29 Год назад

    To all the homies saying val is dying just wait for vct to pick back up I’m sure the viewership and people playing will increase

    • @mohamaditani6160
      @mohamaditani6160 Год назад +6

      valorant needs twitch drops to get views (around 1mil) lolol, csgo Major around 2.7mil, no drops. un-comparable.

    • @cl00oob29
      @cl00oob29 Год назад +1

      @@mohamaditani6160 bro I didn’t compare them I didn’t even mention cs all I said was views and people playing will go up while pros are playing

    • @mohamaditani6160
      @mohamaditani6160 Год назад

      @@cl00oob29 it just doesnt work imo, its more like a casual game, why? relatively new, Meta still doesnt exist, alot of huge updates, new agents, teams are still developing defaults, all in all not consistent for balanced pro plays.

    • @cl00oob29
      @cl00oob29 Год назад +1

      @@mohamaditani6160 it being new makes strats and meta evolving more intersting because its not the same stuff IMO

    • @thekingadam6972
      @thekingadam6972 Год назад +1

      @@mohamaditani6160 these are all the thing that are in league and it has the biggest esport how would it be a problem in Val

  • @Yuu92296
    @Yuu92296 Год назад +4

    I go for val because I love to mess with close minded cs elitist lmao