Welcome To Our Shorts! React To Rammstein - Deutschland (MV)
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'Welcome To Our Shorts' is a sub-series of our 'Beards, Booze, Bands, and BS' Podcast series. Here we cut out the Booze and BS and two Bearded guys just focus on the Bands.
In this episode, we are checking out #Rammstein with #Deutschland
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...how nice it would be if you shut up until the video is over...
Nah. Not doing that.
In what world does your request matter to me?
@Baengyou Shut up.
Pin of shame 😂
They're really quite quiet and attentive for a reaction video lmao
In my opinion, you are the first Americans, who reacted to this video, who got the message right and transferred it to your own history! It gives me hope!
Yeah every country has their own dirty stuff hidden down under the carpet in the past to nowadays as well hope we all some day no matter what country learn about it looking at the future as human race and doesn't make the same mistakes over an over again.
What you just felt and worked through in your conversation was the entire intent and purpuse of the song and video. I was surprised and amazed how deeply this moved you. Kudos! It really doesn't matter that you didn't pick up on every single reference. You fully got the message.
Thank you!
Hey you Beard guys, i‘d like to sag that i enjoyed your conversation very much.
1. I am from Germany and this Peace of Art touches me every time i watch it again. We grew up with the knowledge about the 3rd Reich. I‘ll never forget, when i first read about it. Alone in my room with my new history book for school when i were round about 10 in the 80s. I saw these pictures and read it and ran to my mom, hit the book onto the table and asked totally concerned „Is this true? Did you knew this?“. She prepared the meal and had her thougts somewhere else… she looked at me, than at the book, to me again… and sadly said „yes, that‘s true. There were these horrible times“. I will never forget this situation. More or less over the years - guess i am in your age - i tried to dive into history to try to understand what happened and why people were able to do these things or just accepted these things.
2. And as a result, and you mentioned it, we have to know our history. If our goal is to live in a society of respect to each other and were the talents of people are supported, we have to teach young people what happens or could happen, if you follow the ones who just follow fear and hate an ignorance (i.e. Content of „Angst“). And if you teach people just that you are the best, and the rest is rubbish, you could forget what is real and what is fake. Like you see in russia. Although Stalin were not better than Hitler, the russions love him and want that time back and do everything for it. But the russions did not won against the nazis because of him. More correct is they won although Stalin was there. And furthermore because of him, millions of people were killed. But that‘s not what is in russian schoolbooks and on tv is tought. There everything the russians did in the past was heroic and awesome and all the other „new“ countries should also want to come back to mother russia, because everything were so beautiful. And everyone who has some issues with this meaning… is automatically not of „other opionion which can be discussed“. No, if you have other thougts you are an enemy that talks fake shit.
3. In former days i were a bit ashamed for beeing german because of this history. Today i know, that humans are not good. We want to be. But we struggle from time to time and are weak. Then we follow these rough feelings. Which never ends in something positiv. But here you might see, why patriotism is not a big thing in germany. I am not proud to be german. I am proud what i reached in my life by myself and regret some things i should‘nt have done. I am happy and lucky that i am german and love to live here. But „to be proud“ on something is somehow final. And that means no reflection and critism anymore. And to belong to a nation means just to belong to a sort of „organisation“. It is an abstract somehow virtual concept of trying to unify more people. Somehow the same like religions. Or even sport clubs or even teams at work.
Are you there to support and push to become better, or are you there to separate and divide to protect yourself and feeling better.
I believe that just the first way is the only one to have success on the long run and make neighbourhood, company and even societies better
Greets from old europe
Amazing! Thank you!
Great, remarkable comment. I read it over and over again. I tried to imagine myself in your place at the age of ten. And tears appeared in my eyes...
What you write about Russia, etc. I think the same
I wish all Germans were like you. But I seriously think (even though I don't know Germany very well) that today's Germans are in their majority more democratic than most European nations. And that is precisely because of the terrible recent history - they are not so carefree ("this could not happen in our country"), they feel responsible and are sensitive to social issues. But I think that Germans can be proud of their homeland (proud does not mean arrogant - to feel better than others). The Germans built one of the most prosperous countries in the world from a destroyed bombed country with a broken society. The German social, school, health system, etc. - are among the best. Above all, the change from arrogant nationalists to sensitive people who are positively interested in global problems. I am Czech from Prague (history and social sciences teacher)
well said
Yes, that's exactly what it is, you are an enemy who talks fake nonsense. И да, я из России.
@@davidbroz6755 👍👍
As a German (and student of history), this song has a special place in my heart.
It is a very creative journey through the origins of the place we now call Germany (strictly speaking, German history is younger than US history as the United States existed before Germany did. The transition between "Germanic" via "German speaking" into "German" was a long one. This is what "so young and yet so old" means).
And it summarizes the relationship towards my country and it's history perfectly and also the feeling with regards to patriotism and why it is so uncommon in Germany at least in the traditional sense.
I would call myself a patriot in the sense that I try to help moving forward towards a better future for me and my country. On this track, it is necessary to face the past as it was, understand why things happened and what might be necessary to change things for the better. I am not a patriot in the sense that I try to connect myself to any romanticised aspect of the past to cherish and honour it for some reason. It is simply not productive towards a better future and it can be dangerous on top of that.
And the lyrics connect amazingly to the National anthem..
Well, Rammstein explained their problem of loving their homeland with this epic work. Many Germans of the same generation share these feelings, plus the Rammstein members were born in East Germany when the Wall was up and working. So they grew up with bondage and were part of the story they told us in this video. All Germans of this generation grew up with this guilty conscience.
We were born after the war, in my case 20 years after the end of WWII, but we all had relatives who were personally involved...parents or grandparents. We had and still have to deal with people who lost loved ones through the actions of our relatives and of course suffered as a result. So it's no great surprise that we who have done nothing wrong, still feel shame when we encounter victims or the victims' descendants.This feelings and shame is also the reason that you don't see often that germans wave the german flag, except at a football match with the nationalteam or when foreign leaders come to vistit germany.
But I see a light at the end of the tunnel: Generation Z rejects this guilt and shame of the past. Yes, it's easier for them because they don't have to deal with the victims from back then.
At the latest with the death of the Rammstein generation, this German trauma will come to an end.
Very good reaction!
In Germany, students are mercilessly honestly confronted with the Holocaust every year in history class. Wars, especially such wars, cannot be glorified. Also because this is part of every school education, Germans react particularly sensitively to autocrats like Putin, Bolsonaro, etc. Even 14-year-olds do that. I don't know if you like it, but nationalist autocrats include Donald Trump. Students hate nationalism and recognize that and address it in class in no uncertain terms. And then they hang out in front of the touch displays during the breaks and follow with great enthusiasm how Biden will prevail against Trump in the 2020 US election.
i dont think germans react sensitively to autocrats. they only react sensitively to autocrats if their media and politics thell them to do so.
i mean..what about the anti democratic politic in western countries? no sensitivity here? were is it?
You meant the green party leftist students, don't talk in general please.
@@Plexpara I think you're wrong. And the sensitivity to misconduct is always there. Not with everyone, but with a large part of the population. I would be interested to know which media you mean and which media you think are good. I fear nothing good.
@@zanderalex2463 But i am 100 % right cause we see it today
what media i mean? all mainstream media in germany. cause they all say the same.
right now you got cencoreship in germany. where ist he sensitively?
right now your fundamental rights in germany are cut down
rightnow people get monitored if they criticize their government.some lose theur job.
this list can go on and on
thats what happen in a dictatorshit..not in a democrac.
where is the german sensitively??
it was ALLWAYS wrong to cut different views.THATS what you should learn from the past
@@Plexpara
Oha, take a look at the video "Angst" by Rammstein - this also addresses the problem of how little a part of society can objectively assess the media and gets lost in their bubble. You accuse the public media of being mainstream and reporting incorrectly, while you probably find the state and privately financed media reputable. Exactly for people like you Rammstein make music and criticize patriotism, unreal fears and dictatorships and autocrats. Where is your free opinion being curtailed? You can go out on the street and tell the biggest conspiracy-theory garbage, call out "Lügenpresse" and get police protection for it. You probably still consider Corona as harmless as a normal influenza and Putin as a victim of the western threat. You have no problem with the restriction of your freedom of speech - you have a problem to accept other opinions (which you call mainstream opinions).
my family comes from both countries. I live on the border between France and Germany. this burden (WW2) is hard to bear for the Germans. what rammstein says is to accept and assume the good and the bad in order to move forward. this song, the first time I listened to it touched me deeply. nothing shocked me. my grandmother, not knowing and speaking only German, cried.
and said: thank you to them for putting words on our relationship with our history. #danke
one of the best videos. i'm from germany and this video is really really great and also hard to watch. great reaction!
Wow, thank you!
You guys made the best reaction video I have seen so far and you are the first US-Americans to analyze this video so well. No pointless talking and especially no thousand interruptions to make stupid remarks. You guys are great! ... Best regards from Germany ! 👍❤️
Hello guys. This was a fantastic reaction to this masterpiece of art. Kudos.
I'm from Germany so let me give you some thoughts from someone who's born here. First of all, first time I watched the video I was shocked and deeply moved. The song/ video takes a very deep look into our german souls and how most of us feel about our country. It's a love- hate- relationship. The video is loaded with tons of symbols, that as a German you catch onto.
Let's start: in the intro you see Germania ( Personification of Germany) during roman/ germanian tribes time.
The red Lazer represents the "red thread" of the story/ history.
Astronauts from the future bringing Germania in a glass coffin (snow-white) so she can lead through the/her german history.
Next you observe the twenties(Weimar Republic).The prison scene representing the rough, violent times especially for the majority of the population struggling to survive. Money raining down/ the great depression. And Germany's first try as a democratic state. In between Germania is dressed in knight's armor awaking her knights/band with the Lazarus spear.
Next Germania is pushed in a wheelchair by the band through the Berlin Holocaust Memorial with burning bodies. (Imagine the Statue of Liberty being pushed in a wheelchair. What a strong image!)
Next vignette the office scene showing east Germany and west Germany reunited (1989).
Then you're being taken back to mideveal times, monks/ church are feasting off of Germania. In most scenes you'll see some church man involved. No coincidence.
The concentration camp scene in the background you see V2 rockets ignition. The inmates are wearing different types of stars on their chests and a sign on the gallows reads: no photos. Germania wears an eye-patch first on her left, than on her right eye.
Than a quick shot of Germania dressed modern with lots of gold leading german shepherds., representing Germany's wealth.
The 70's scene shows the RAF- extremists holding Germania/ Germany hostage.
Next vignette is the witch burnings shifting to the book burning. If you have a close look, at minute 4:45 you see a church man holding up a cross hugging a Nazi, symbolising the churches over all position to the horrific events happening during 1933-1945.
The birth scene. Germania is giving birth to dogs respectively "Leonberger" a breed preferred by Kings and Queens. The Breed almost went extinct during WW1 and WW2. A cardinal or federal judge is helping (dressed in red) a new Germany being born.
At minute 5:50 you see the riots against refugees homes in the 90's in Hoyerswerda. Molotovs are being thrown and a car is being pushed over with the help of a man dressed in Nazi uniform.
Than the scenes/ time vignettes start shifting faster and faster, showing how many times, when circumstances becoming to extreme everything is falling apart and Germania ( dressed in knight's) armor is crying.
The outro is the piano version of the song "Sonne" which completed how we feel thinking of our past: a sense of sadness.
To sum it up. Germany has a long, wild, violent, unique history, because we as a state of today exist only since 1989. Yet the roots go back a very long time. "Young and yet so old" I hope that helped a little to understand the video and with that us Germans. We don't have a strong feeling of patriotism, but a strong sense of unity. It's complicated.
With love from Germany 🤘😎
Don't forget the involvement of the church and inquisition in Germany.
The germans did burn witches many years after Rome stopped to hunt down the supernaturals.
Same counts for the inquisistion. Germany stopped it as last country and only after the pope "pointed" it out.
@@Jan_Seidel absolutely agree with you. Church has so much blood on their hands. Up until this day. Idk where you are from dear, but the church unfortunately has quite a lot of political power. They managed somehow, that a lot of people here have a 'romantic' view on it. The political influence is willingful ignored. I mean they always took a very prominent role , when it came to who was gonna become the german Emperor for hundreds of years. And even today they is the so-called canon law parallel to the regular common law. But that mindset is changing.
Imo something quite extraordinary happened in spring this year and almost was completely ignored by the media in Germany: For the 1st time in more than a thousand years less than 50% were officially membes to one of the Christian churches. 🤘🤘🤘
@@spring_in_paris actually I am from Germany
@@Jan_Seidel ja tippi toppi.
I really enjoy your reactions to Rammstein and the talks afterwards. Keep it up & greetings from Germany
Actually the concentration camp scene has not only jewsish people reference although obviously that was the biggest group. The signs on the chest say jewish, gay, disabled and something else. :) Great reaction guys PS: My personal opinion to being patriotic and being "proud" of a country is basically. If you are a patriot you want to change a country for the better which also means not agreeing with things that happen or happened. I think a patriot is not someone who looks back and defends everything or tries to make excuses. I think a patriot wants to really bring the country forward and make it better for everyone in the country and that means to start to refelct the past. You can never move forward if you deny or try to erase the past. Best regards from Germany
Hi, I'm from Germany.
Rammstein is playing a classic "Industrial Metal" style. A 50-50 mix of synthesizers and hard metal guitars.
A big part of the German history in one video. The black woman as Germania. Germania is the personification of the German nation. It isn't and wasn't a goddess or Joan of Arc.
The glass coffin: It is Little Snow White from the Grimm-fairytales....and from their own video "Sonne". Only with black skin and in space.
The piano song at the end is the song "Sonne", too.
The words "Germania Magna" at the beginning are a Roman name for the area of Germany, that wasn't conquered by the Roman Empire at that time.
Germania Superior and Germania Inferior were the Roman conquered areas (Roman provinces) of Germany.
The line in this song "So jung und doch so alt" (So young and yet so old) means:
Germany as a unified state is very young. A unified German nation is only existing from 1871 onwards. Before that year of unification Germany was made of countless, little mini-states and the people identified first and foremost as Prussians, Hessians, Saxons etc, etc, etc. and only in a second line of thought they had a lose sense of being somehow Germans, too, as a kind of unifying second identity.
So the area & the landscape where the Germans are living and the Germans themselves as a people...are thousands of years old. But only recently, in 1871, there was a unified Germany as one single state.
So Germany as a unified state is very young...and at the same time it is thousands of years old.
The battle of the Teutoburg forest against the Romans (and Rammstein as Roman soldiers and Germans alike).
That battle is of ABSOLUTE importance for the German history.
The hanged bodies in the trees were the beaten Roman soldiers, who were gruesome sacrificed to the Germanic gods...and were partly nailed to the trees.
The Varus-(Teutoburg)-Battle was already in 9 AD. In 16 AD were the vengeance campaigns of commanding field general Germanicus under Emperor Tiberius Augustus. Therefore we see here the arrival of the Roman troops of Germanicus and they are watching their dead comrades hanging in the trees or getting their heads chopped off (for nailing them to the trees).
In reality the Romans under Germanicus found only the bones of the Varus army in the various ways they were slaughtered, sacrificed and displayed at the trees. Slaves were liberated even decades after the battle.
After the scenes with the Romans we saw the Hindenburg Zeppelin disaster (the burning Zeppelin in the background).
The moustaches and clothing from the fight scene are from WWI and post WWI years. From the working class people in WWI and the roaring 20's. In the WWII years later on this kind of big bushy moustache was already out of fashion.
The falling banknotes in the prison are not about corruption. That scene is about the hyper-inflation of the 1920's, that took away the savings of the Germans and left them in deep poverty and desperation.
One had to pay a loaf of bread with a handcart full of nearly worthless banknotes back then and it hit the German people deep down inside and in their souls. Especially the poor ones and the simple workers.
The V2 rocket (first manmade object in space) as technical triumph of the German spirit...and at the same time the killing of the concentration camp prisoners in the bunker factories below the mountains during the production of that rocket.
This scene in the video could be a representation of a very specific concentration camp. It was "Mittelbau-Dora" below the Kohnstein mountain.
A mixture between a big, huge bunker factory for V1 and V2 rockets and a concentration camp.
The concentration camp inmates had several different markings for different kinds of convicts and their "crimes" sown to their chests, like it was in reality, too. A pink triangle for homosexuals, the star of David for Jews and two of them were marked with the double-triangles for Jehovas Whitnesses.
The book burnings of the Nazis and the burning of the witches of the church. In the same scene with the book burning there is EVEN MORE going on. The cooperation of the church with the Nazis, when the priest with the cross embraces the Nazi SA-man.
The scene with the sign with the Hammer and a pair of compasses in a circle of wheat is the sign of the GDR (DDR). The socialist German state in the east that existed before the German reunification.
Therefore it was Karl Marx in the background in the scene with the tank (not the scene at the concentration camp).
The scene with Rammstein wielding guns (the pumpgun) and taking Germania hostage was about leftwing terrorism of the 1970's. The terrorists were called the RAF (Rote Armee Fraktion).
My interpretation of the red scanner-like beams: There are two different kinds of beams. The massive straight red light beam that goes up into the heavens AND there were those smaller, thinner "scanner" beams.
Aliens (or humans from the future) are scanning the whole German history. Like some real scientists are scanning and excarvating ancient Mexican or Egyptian statues, for example.
The massive red light beam is the red ribbon of time that ties together all the historical events.
PS: As for the dogs: Germans are fanatical dog lovers. We are a dog-owner nation. The dog is a firm part of Germany.
PPS: They didn't eat the body of the woman and her inner organs, even if it really looked that way. They were eating the national dish of Germany, that was put on the body of the black woman: Sauerkraut, Kassler & sausages.
In my opinion it symbolizes the church eating itself fat on the goods and values and food of Germany during the simple people (farmers, simple workers etc) lived a long time in a kind of hell of poverty and serfdom (the red fetish area below the table with Germania on it).
But that eating scene could indeed have a double meaning. It could represent the 30 years war, that was fought for religious reasons and depopulated large areas of Germany. It forced the people to commit canibalism because nobody was there anymore to produce food. Except the fat, wealthy people of the church, of course. They were still able to eat enough. Only the simple people at the bottom (farmers etc) died from hunger and had to fight and die in that war.
The 30 years war was the biggest catastrophe in Germany until WWI happened.
PPPS: The short scene with the dogs and their gas masks = WWI, where in reality animals (messenger dogs & horses) AND soldiers were wearing gas masks, too.
PPPPS: The puppies at the end are Leonberger dogs. The Leonbergers nearly went extinct during WWI and WWII.
PPPPPS: The black woman in the prison was dressed in a Prussian uniform with a Prussian helmet.
Till sings the famous, often misinterpreted, line of the "Deutschlandlied" (Song of the Germans), that is not forbidden in Germany but simply isn't sung anymore in our modern national anthem.
Till sings in his version the line "Deutschland über allen" (Germany above everybody) What is a BIG change to the real line in the orginal Deutschlandlied-song. In the original Deutschlandlied song it is written as "Deutschland über alles" (Germany above everything).
The real, whole line of that old Deutschlandlied goes "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles. Über alles in der Welt" (Germany, Germany above everything. Above everything in the world).
This line is often misinterpreted by many people as chauvinism and as a looking down upon all other countries on this planet. But that is wrong and not many people know about that in Germany and elsewhere.
The writer of that famous line didn't meant it in a chauvinistic way.
When that song was written, Germany was divided into umphteenth mini-states, what made Germany relative powerless and defenseless. Therefore the task of German unification was the goal above any other goal for all Germans (at least the writer of the song meant it that way).
So the main goal for all Germans had to be the united Germany. The goal of "(united) Germany above everything else".
That was, how that line was meant by the writer of the song.
The line isn't forbidden, like many people wrongly think. It's simply not sung anymore and not part of the official anthem of modern Germany anymore.
This has NOT its reason in the seemingly chauvinist meaning of "Deutschland über alles", like many people wrongly think. This whole stanza of the Deutschlandlied isn't sung anymore, because in other parts of the stanza are borders and landscapes mentioned, that aren't German borders and landscapes anymore.
We want to live in peace with the people and countries, who are now living in those former German lands and therefore we don't sing about those old borders and landscapes anymore.
It has nothing to do with the "Deutschland über alles" line in that stanza, like many people wrongly are thinking.
Finally:
The scenes I'm now talking about are pretty dark and low light. The WWII submarine in the submarine bunker during the astronauts are walking by with the glass coffin.
I think, the choice of the black woman as main actress was made, because:
a) it makes any accusations of racism and fascism against Rammstein useless
b) she represents one colour of the German flag and she is wearing the rest of the colours of our German flag as makeup and jewellery and clothes on her body: Black, Red and Gold
c) it provokes many people EVEN MORE 😄
Greetings
Mega
PS: RUclips didn't allow me to integrate this information into the bigger text (above) for unknown reasons, therefore I'm posting it here:
The troops, who smashed the Jewish shops during the Kristallnacht (not shown in the video) were SA (Sturmabteilung) in brown uniform and not the later SS (Schutzstaffel) in the black uniform. The SA did all the dirty work at the beginning of the Nazi rise to power...until the "Night of the long knives", an inner-Nazi power struggle, happened. The head of the SA (Ernst Röhm) was killed and from then on the SA was turned more and more into the SS under Himmler.
The book burnings were part of the early Nazi years, too, and were done by the SA, too. One can see the SA burning the books and Till is watching it in a brown SA uniform.
Both, Kristallnacht and book burnings were different things and happened at different times. The book burnings happened over a longer timespan at different locations at different times during the Kristallnacht was one big "event" that happened at one single day.
Kristallnacht means "Crystal Night" and was called that way, because the smashed shop windows of the Jewish shops looked like thousands of crystals on the ground. But in the Rammstein video I've only seen the book burnings.
PPS:
The two beer drinking soldiers to the left side of the table, where Germania is lying on and where the priests are eating Sauerkraut & Sausages from her body, are not French soldiers and they aren't representing the French revolution. Those two beer drinking soldiers are Prussian soldiers and they are emphasizing the importance of Prussia for the German history.
As far as I could see: They were from the era of Friedrich der Große (The Old Fritz), who was of extraordinary importance for German history. Amongst many other achievements he was the one, who brought the potato to Prussia and Germany. That saved many Germans from hunger and the potato became one of the most beloved foods in Germany on that way.
As a native German this video touches me every time and I like it a lot. It is a truly masterpiece of music, pictures and art.
What always impresses me, how foreigner such as you start to discus about their land and find paralls to their history. That's what art means to me talking about seeing things different then the other ones. I guess you got the message of them.
I totally agree to Rammsteins, it is hard to love Germany!
Hang in there. This one is going to get deep and controversial.
I kept on waiting for the controversial part, but all I got was some common sense. 🙂
If someone is just out to find something they can be angry about they will always find it, but I can not see any problem talking, singing or making a film about what is a part of history. The only bad thing would be not doing so.
@@bknesheim If you're in the US, then you know that when people start talking about White-Washing history, certain people get bent to shit. If you're not, certain people get bent to shit when you start talking about White-Washing history...lol Everything you said, we agree with!
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I love how Rammstein's Deutschland spark that conversation about History in America, at least for you guys. That feeling of blessing and curse is universal.
Tonight. I am checking out…..Rammstein. Live!! In person. At the Linc in Philly. Can’t wait. Headed there soon to tailgate. Been waiting nearly 3 years since I got the tickets (Covid postponed x 2). Who is jealous? Hehehe
Have fun!
I'm so obsessed by Rammstein that I keep going to see every reaction I can find. Yours is maybe the 20th I saw, and it's my favorite.
I'm a 39 year old German and this video shows the struggle for me and many people of my generation. I want to love my country but I can't because of our past. It is really hard to understand that but we have to do all we can that this will never happen again! It would be cool to have the german flag outside of the house but it's not the right time!
Anyway. Great reaction!
love you guys, don´t apologize for your views, or interlect
Rammstein is uniting the World!
Great video guys, I absolutely recommend the Deutschland breakdown video by Three Arrows, very informative
Fantastic, honest discussion guys, I loved listening to you. Great that you understood the meaning of the song, your Rammstein reactions are always on point
Always great reaction ❤️
Great reaction...great analysis
Greetings from Germany
Awesome reaction guys to a masterpiece, thanks 🙏
I tend to enjoy these reactions you have done to Rammstein videos because they always promote discourse and that is one of the great things about their body of work, it makes one think. And it is interesting to hear your views and thoughts.
One part of your conversation I found particularly interesting, was when you talking about the school curriculum generally glossing over the past and not exposing children to the realities of how we, as humans, globally, got to this point in time. It felt like there's an element of almost wanting to "protect the children" from the nastiness, cruelty, brutality of our collective human history. I thought this was quite a strange dichotomy (as perceived by someone who is not from the USA but this seems to be what I have observed as a general attitude), the general 'won't somebody think of the children!' type approach in education, (or in any media where there is a hint of nudity), and yet kids are being exposed to so much worse just by having the news on, especially when you do comparisons between how the UK tends to report thing compared to US. 24 hour rolling sensationalised horror, on multiple channels. Mass shootings, accidents, war, terrorism, famine, drought, flooding, whatever other natural disasters you want to add etc, pumped out 24/7, but don't teach history!
I understand this is merely how I have interpreted the obviously incomplete picture based upon listening to conversations such as the one you had, and that other people have talked or written about, media I have seen online from the US etc. I just thought it interesting.
Also, a small point, but I think the 4 band members depicted as prisoners in concentration camps wore some of the different insignia the nazis imposed on people, I think they showed a star, I think one of the 'emblems' was for Jehovah's Witnesses, and one was for what I think was deemed 'generally deviant'. In that actual time I believe there were several different symbols including homosexuality, disability, different religions, and so on.
Last thing, I love how they used a Black actor, Ruby Comey, to play Germania. Not only does she do a wonderful job playing such a momentous role, but she is generally depicted wearing red and gold, so her "black" skin, and the red and gold she wears symbolises the colours of the German flag, black red gold. But also her name, Ruby, can also mean red. idk, it is just a small detail that I like!
Hi guys! I appreciate your reaction and especially your discussion after ending. As non-german people you analyzed the content absolutely fantastic. Congrats and hat off!
love all the references to previous Rammstein music videos throughout it
Every time I watch this I think, "All of this from a metal band?" Then, considering this was their first video in about ten years, you wonder if it took them ten years to make it. Imagine the planning and effort that went into making this video. Every shot was packed with symbolism, and they must have known they were going to get some blowback on this. Even the idea of making Germania black must have been controversial. BTW, there are a few excellent "analysis" videos out there that discuss this in great detail.
I love them so much! So them In September and one of the best concerts I’ve ever been too and this was my third time seeing them. Amazing song writers and showmen
Excellent analysis, gentlemen. Greets from Germania Magna ;)
You could teach a college class with this video.
8 days to showtime in Massachusetts!!! 😁😁😁
At 12 years old, my daughter refused to carry home her history book because she didn't want to "carry 10 pounds of lies." I was floored.
She's now 27 and we're going to the show...she bought the tickets! 🇩🇪
You can be proud of your daughter!
watched Rammstein in Foxboro Mass. great show.
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A very good analysis. Greetings from Germany
You guys have it wrong, "Du hast" is written differently from "Du hasst"! Sounds simila,r but we write the second word like this :haßt. They both sound similar but the second word is pronounced with a sharp s and a slightly longer a.
Eyes wide open. Completely agree sirs. Great video!
The whole video is a big lesson on German history!! Every second!!
BTW... really love you two and all your reactions!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Many Germans can relate to the song, the split, in part schizophrenic love/hate relationship you have with germany. To make it more relatable, imagine this was an American band singing about America, and the black lady was representing the statue if liberty, instead of nazis you would see a plantation with slaves berin punished by confederates, or Indians beeing sent to reservation by the army. I know there are no direct connections except today we see the oppression and the wrong doings.....and we need to deal with it and face the pain, shame and all the other things. Thanks for your comments
Great commentary. I don't think there is a band brave enough to do what Rammstein did in the video or with this song.
THANKS for 4k video.
Really wish I had a personal RUclips account right now! 🤣
This is a very beautiful video, masterfully done.
I myself am part German, not by direct blood but through heritage. I absolutely embrace that part of me, and yes I also acknowledge all the bad too.
The message that was put forth in the video, is so powerful, I mean I’m not even from Germany and it really made feel the message to.
I know I missed a lot in the video too, I remember reading somewhere about the dogs, but for the life of me I can’t remember what it represented.
To wrap up this story of a comment, fantastic video, y’all are amazing!! I will be subbing and following for sure!
Absolute Masterpiece ❤ Rammstein are the best band ever 🔥🔝
Masterpiece 🔝Rammstein ❤❤
Perfekt, I mean PERFECT reaction... I really appreciate your comments... Go ahead!!!
Cheers from Germany - Stephan
YES YOU ARE RIGHT , THE GOOD AND THE BAD '❤ THEY MUST SEE THE RIGHT HISTORY ❤❤❤❤❤
I really appreciate your thoughts on this. I especially appreciate your awareness that there are just some things you can't understand or comment on due to not being German. We can just sit back and listen and learn
Love it
Hi, so great you've reacted to Deutschland! It's a true masterpiece and one can't just see it for once...
The controversy actually wasn't about the video itself. Few days (2 days AFAIR) before premiere (remember, Ramm thstein became silent for 10! years) they released a trailer for "Deutschland", where you could see only the part of death camp scene - band members ready to be hanged. It was like 30 second long and gave absolutely no background, explanation, anything. And that's when some people started speculating about Rammstein messing with Holocaust memory etc., some other brought back the fact that they used Leni Riefenstahl footage for "Stripped" many years ago etc.
Once the official video was released, voices accusing Rammstein for Nazi sympathies just went silent.
Great. Greetings from Germany.
Beautiful
Excellent conversation, gents.
@4:45 I feel bad for the Hindenburg not many reactors to this video catch it!!
For me it is simply MV I don't get offendet, I don't have thoughts like it is too much or it should't be there, etc, I'm Polish and we have very complicated history with Germany but I think we can't punish nation for what happen 70 years ago, we have to remember and learn from it and teach younger gen in respectful and truthful way.
And this video is made in a way that I feel is fair to history and people that lived thro it, and feeling that two saids can feel, and by writing "simply" I mean it as there should't be this much chaos around it, it is video for song, it fits this song and there is meaning behind why this scenes are there and that is end of topic for me, if we talk in context what can be in it or not.
It is sooooo good, very well made, high class MV, also shows different side, and what people might feel, especially fragments when it shows that Germany is literally crying bc of all the actions made by people, but She is there and she stands with head high bc in the and people make a country so she have to be what they want her.
I'm fan of Rammstein for 21 years now, I was 11 when my dad show them to me, and there are more shooking things they did in videos, live and some lyrics, yeah. Like when I saw this MV first time my eyes didn't even twitch. I saw what it meant and was simply in awe especially that they choose black german actress to play Germania. Grear work.
I saw it live, great performance like always from band.
You should see then if you can, if somebody asked me what you have to do at least once in live go to Rammstein show.
little correction
du hast means you have
du hasst means you hate
it‘s not the same word in written form, although it seems to sound very similar to an non native german speaker
greetings from Rostock, Germany 😊
If you know German history , You will know just how great this video is .
Rammstein's Deutschland always makes me very emotional and near to tears, because Germany has changed so much throughout its entire history. Its history is so long and old, but Germany, as it is today, has only existed for a few decades. This video should be shown and analyzed in history classes. There are so many important parts of our history shown and the video and lyrics are packed with symbolism. In Germany, it is the goal to work through our history and remember it so that it won't happen again (and not just the holocaust). It makes you aware of all the parts where you just can't be proud to be a German (not just because of our history but you are also more aware of shortcomings in current political situations). So people get very humble in their national pride. One of the only occasions where you see a German flag somewhere is when a German sports team is currently competing in an international competition. I think most Germans identify more as being a citizen of their city or region or even as a European rather than a German (that's more secondary)
i nearly watched the video 50 times and still find new symbols and signs in it. greetings from germany.
As a German i think it´s describe really good how it is. You get reminded on a daily basis about WW2 and sometimes so much, that i´m sick of it. And like everything there is a good side of it and a bad side. Ofc we should never forget about what happend but sometimes you just want to move forward.
What i always hate about that is, that we (germans) know quite well about our History, but there a still so many "dumb" People that don´t have the right to remind me. They here u are German and immediately come up with Naz* or talk about WW2 and thats all they know. But they never think about the Crimes/History of their own Country.
Btw great Reactions - Keep save and see you on the next Reaction.
P.s: Hope my bad English made some sense. It´s really hard to find the right Words for Topics like this.
Oh btw you should check out "educatedmarine" he has almost every Rammstein Songs/Videos with very good Subtitles (not like the google translate thing on youtube) - Often he put it in if there is a double meaning.
The song is about the ambivalent relationship of Rammstein and many Germans to their country, because of the violent and cruel history with extensive human crimes ("red line of violence through german history"), especially in recent history. Therefore the video features various events from German history, including Roman times, the Middle Ages, witch hunting and burning, Protestant Reformation, the November Revolution, the "Golden Twenties" and hyperinflation, Nazi book burnings, the Hindenburg disaster, the First and Second World Wars, the Holocaust, the Weimar Republic, the Red Army Fraction (violent anti-capitalist terror alliance of young people and students against Nazis in high state and economy positions in post-war Germany), and the division of the country into West and East Germany including the Uprising June 17 in East Germany. The black woman represents Germany and one of the Colors of the German flags, sometimes as a victim, but mostly as a perpetrator. With her black skin she is also a provocation to all stupid racists
A lot of people do not understand the scenes with the dogs. This breed of dogs are not German Shepards, but Leonberger. This breed of dog narrowly escaped extinction during the First and also Second World Wars and is symbolic of the German people, whose existence was also strongly threatened in those wars (Morgenthau-Plan) - both now have a second existential chance, just like the new German democratic constitution, which in future must be protected as strongly as if it were under quarantine (Judges in red robes, Rammstein members in protective suits with the dogs)
The Holocaust was for this reason the greatest human crime because it was the first industrially organized mass murder in human history, by a country that was culturally at its highest point at this time and called itself the country of poets and thinkers. But it is precisely the high cultural and scientific level of Germany that unfortunately caused others to be viewed as subhuman who can be killed without pity, just like animals. Seeing other people as inferior has always brought a lot of suffering to people
well said ..
Greetings from Germany
im from Russia and u guys a fck amazing. Ur reaction was honest. Like mine. I was watching in and I got it. I beleived u
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Rammstein is playing a classic "Industrial Metal" style. A 50-50 mix of synthesizers and hard metal guitars.
A big part of the German history in one video. The black woman as Germania. Germania is the personification of the German nation. It isn't and wasn't a goddess or Joan of Arc.
The glass coffin: It is Little Snow White from the Grimm-fairytales....and from their own video "Sonne". Only with black skin and in space.
The piano song at the end is the song "Sonne", too.
The line in this song "So jung und doch so alt" (So young and yet so old) means:
Germany as a unified state is very young. A unified German nation is only existing from 1871 onwards. Before that year of unification Germany was made of countless, little mini-states and the people identified first and foremost as Prussians, Hessians, Saxons etc, etc, etc. and only in a second line of thought they had a lose sense of being somehow Germans, too, as a kind of unifying second identity.
So the area & the landscape where the Germans are living and the Germans themselves as a people...are thousands of years old. But only recently, in 1871, there was a unified Germany as one single state.
So Germany as a unified state is very young...and at the same time it is thousands of years old.
The battle of the Teutoburg forest against the Romans (and Rammstein as Roman soldiers and Germans alike).
That battle is of ABSOLUTE importance for the German history.
The hanged bodies in the trees were the beaten Roman soldiers, who were gruesome sacrificed to the Germanic gods...and were partly nailed to the trees.
The Varus-(Teutoburg)-Battle was already in 9 AD. In 16 AD were the vengeance campaigns of Emperor Germanicus. Therefore we see here the arrival of the Roman troops of Germanicus and they are watching their dead comrades hanging in the trees or getting their heads chopped off (for nailing them to the trees).
In reality the Romans under Germanicus found only the bones of the Varus army in the various ways they were slaughtered, sacrificed and displayed at the trees. Slaves were liberated even decades after the battle.
After the scenes with the Romans we saw the Hindenburg Zeppelin disaster (the burning Zeppelin in the background).
The moustaches and clothing from the fight scene are from WWI and post WWI years. From the working class people in WWI and the roaring 20's. In the WWII years later on this kind of big bushy moustache was already out of fashion.
The falling banknotes in the prison are not about corruption. That scene is about the hyper-inflation of the 1920's, that took away the savings of the Germans and left them in deep poverty and desperation.
One had to pay a loaf of bread with a handcart full of nearly worthless banknotes back then and it hit the German people deep down inside and in their souls. Especially the poor ones and the simple workers.
The V2 rocket (first manmade object in space) as technical triumph of the German spirit...and at the same time the killing of the concentration camp prisoners in the bunker factories below the mountains during the production of that rocket.
This scene in the video could be a representation of a very specific concentration camp. It was "Mittelbau-Dora" below the Kohnstein mountain.
A mixture between a big, huge bunker factory for V1 and V2 rockets and a concentration camp.
The concentration camp inmates had several different markings for different kinds of convicts and their "crimes" sown to their chests, like it was in reality, too. A pink triangle for homosexuals, the star of David for Jews and two of them were marked with the double-triangles for Jehovas Whitnesses.
The book burnings of the Nazis and the burning of the witches of the church. In the same scene with the book burning there is EVEN MORE going on. The cooperation of the church with the Nazis, when the priest with the cross embraces the Nazi SA-man.
The scene with the sign with the Hammer and a pair of compasses in a circle of wheat is the sign of the GDR (DDR). The socialst German state in the east that existed before the German reunification.
Therefore it was Karl Marx in the background in the scene with the tank (not the scene at the concentration camp).
The scene with Rammstein wielding guns (the pumpgun) and taking Germania hostage was about leftwing terrorism of the 1970's. The terrorists were called the RAF (Rote Armee Fraktion).
My interpretation of the red scanner-like beams: There are two different kinds of beams. The massive straight red light beam that goes up into the heavens AND there were those smaller, thinner "scanner" beams.
Aliens (or humans from the future) are scanning the whole German history. Like some real scientists are scanning and excarvating ancient Mexican or Egyptian statues, for example.
The massive red light beam is the red ribbon of time that ties together all the historical events.
PS: As for the dogs: Germans are fanatical dog lovers. We are a dog-owner nation. The dog is a firm part of Germany.
PPS: They didn't eat the body of the woman and her inner organs, even if it really looked that way. They were eating the national dish of Germany, that was put on the body of the black woman: Sauerkraut, Kassler & sausages.
In my opinion it symbolizes the church eating itself fat on the goods and values and food of Germany during the simple people (farmers, simple workers etc) lived a long time in a kind of hell of poverty and serfdom (the red fetish area below the table with Germania on it).
But that eating scene could indeed have a double meaning. It could represent the 30 years war, that was fought for religious reasons and depopulated large areas of Germany. It forced the people to commit canibalism because nobody was there anymore to produce food. Except the fat, wealthy people of the church, of course. They were still able to eat enough. Only the simple people at the bottom (farmers etc) died from hunger and had to fight and die in that war.
The 30 years war was the biggest catastrophe in Germany until WWI happened.
PPPS: The short scene with the dogs and their gas masks = WWI, where in reality animals (messenger dogs & horses) AND soldiers were wearing gas masks, too.
PPPPS: The puppies at the end are Leonberger dogs. The Leonbergers nearly went extinct during WWI and WWII.
PPPPPS: The black woman in the prison was dressed in a Prussian uniform with a Prussian helmet.
Till sings the famous, often misinterpreted, line of the "Deutschlandlied" (Song of the Germans), that is not forbidden in Germany but simply isn't sung anymore in our modern national anthem.
Till sings in his version the line "Deutschland über allen" (Germany above everybody) What is a BIG change to the real line in the orginal Deutschlandlied-song. In the original Deutschlandlied song it is written as "Deutschland über alles" (Germany above everything).
The real, whole line of that old Deutschlandlied goes "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles. Über alles in der Welt" (Germany, Germany above everything. Above everything in the world).
This line is often misinterpreted by many people as chauvinism and as a looking down upon all other countries on this planet. But that is wrong and not many people know about that in Germany and elsewhere.
The writer of that famous line didn't meant it in a chauvinistic way.
When that song was written, Germany was divided into umphteeth mini-states, what made Germany relative powerless and defenseless. Therefore the task of German unification was the goal above any other goal for all Germans (at least the writer of the song meant it that way).
So the main goal for all Germans had to be the united Germany. The goal of "(united) Germany above everything else".
That was, how that line was meant by the writer of the song.
The line isn't forbidden, like many people wrongly think. It's simply not sung anymore and not part of the official anthem of modern Germany anymore.
This has NOT its reason in the seemingly chauvinist meaning of "Deutschland über alles", like many people wrongly think. This whole stanza of the Deutschlandlied isn't sung anymore, because in other parts of the stanza are borders and landscapes mentioned, that aren't German borders and landscapes anymore.
We want to live in peace with the people and countries, who are now living in those former German lands and therefore we don't sing about those old borders and landscapes anymore.
It has nothing to do with the "Deutschland über alles" line in that stanza, like many people wrongly are thinking.
I think after seeing rammstein's Deutschland it's time to check out their song called America this is the one that got me interested in their music videos and their philosophies and earned my respect. Hopefully the Die Hard fans will back me up on this
The controversy was based on a small teaser of the song which contains the hanging scene. A ton of politicians and organisations became triggered immediately and started judging. Except the chairwoman of the biggest advocacy for the jewish community, the „Zentralrat der Juden in Deutschland“. She said she would like to listen to the full song and video first.
I thought that was pretty impressive
i remember that different. they where all judging. including the jewish community. but that is a problem in general. humans judge to fast. and this is the first step to a 3. reich.
If there is one thing other countries or nationalities for that matter can learn from Germany and its history, it is that "national pride" (being proud to be XYZ - proud to be German/American/whatever) is a hollow pride, a pride that has no substance but still tempts you to feel superior to someone else. And we have seen many times where this temptation leads.
You can't be proud to be a German or American or whatever, because you haven't contributed anything to that except being born in that place by chance. You can be proud of yourself, of course, proud of what you personally have achieved in your life, but not proud of the longitude you were born on.
Hy from Germany, we have a word "Erinnerungskultur", which means remembering-culture.
It´s to making sure, that history does not repeat itself. Also preserving history, teaching especially the bad things (a ton of our dark history), schoolclasses visiting concentration camps/museums and "Stolpersteine" (stumbling stones) these are bronze-stones with inspriptions infront of some houses in the streets, that are the former homes of the victims of the nazi-regime, with names, birthdates and their last location (often a concentration camp) written on it.
We are trying to make sure that these things never happen again (...looking at you russia...) and to make things better.
This explains maybe also our effords to switch to renewable energy and fight clima change.
I agree fully with you both. You can be proud of your country and also acknowledge the bad things of your history. If you don´t, you don´t learn.
In the US you could put this statues in a museum. So it´s not forgotten, but also not glorified.
Another controversy in this song is when he says "Deutschland, Deutschland über allen" (Germany, Germany above all) its a line that was erased from the German anthem after the WW2
6:40 To be more specific about translation... There was part in German anthem "Deutchland, Deutchland über alles" which means "Germany Germany above everything".
Rammstein changed it to "Deutchland, Deutchland über allen", which means "Germany, Germany above everyone". And they did it to show how cruel Third Reich was.
PS: I liked your reaction and ability to demonstrate Rammsteins point on your own nation
massive respect to your point of view. as a german who grew up internationally, i still feel a degree of national guilt. hell, one of my grandfathers fought to defend his home when he was 17, at the end of the war... but for the wrong side. but my german cousins say the ww2 stuff and the holocaust are covered in a lot of detail. as this song says, we want to love our country (world cup football, flags everywhere!) but we also want to condemn it.
the second part is slowly fading in my and the next generation. we feel like we are far enough removed to take pride in our country again. a lot of that pride comes from how we have dealt with our history. almost no country is clean, us less than most when it comes to history, but we can start to take pride in the way we address it on a national level.
having grown up abroad, i have heard countless nazi jokes at my expense just for where i was born, but thats ok. in a way, jokes also help us to not forget. once i was old enough to not take that shit personally, i was on board. i personally am proud my country has accepted its part in history fully. no excuses. others have a long way to go
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started diskussion... perfect :D
Here are some Rammsteinlinks with live perfomances and official music videos - have fun 😉✌️😁
Lindemann - Steh auf (live)
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Rammstein - Dicke Titten (off-vid)
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Rammstein - Zick Zack (off-vid)
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Rammstein - Zeit (off-vid)
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Rammstein - Angst (off-vid)
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Rammstein - mein Herz brennt (off-vid)
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Rammstein - Deutschland (off-vid)
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Rammstein - Mutter (off-vid)
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Rammstein - was ich liebe (live)
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Rammstein - Engel (live)
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Rammstein - Ich tu dir weh (live)
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Rammstein - Rammlied (live)
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Rammstein - Du riechst so gut (live)
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Rammstein - Ich will (live)
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Rammstein - Benzin (live)
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Rammstein - Feuer Frei (live)
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Rammstein - bück dich (live)
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We Germans have a strange relationship to our country. Even long before WW2, one of our greatest philosophers Schopenhauer wrote:
“The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”
There's so much in here. Every thing from the Roman's ,Weimar Republic , Natzis,The Hindinberg references to Schindler. The protestant church and bisection of the region. Man everything from the fall of the wall to the conservation of the Leiemburger dogs that almost went extinct. All while portraying Germaina as a black women to call out the history of race relations. Very proactive video expertly tackling a complicated history. As a fan I'd recommend Amerika and Aüsslander to follow up Deutschland 👍🏻👍🏻
You show respect to the hate crimes without unnecessery headbanging. Respect for that friends.
Germany cannot be reduced to its few wars and its division. Germany is also culture, art, science and love.
Deutschland lässt sich nicht auf seine wenigen Kriege und seine Teilung reduzieren. Deutschland ist auch Kultur, Kunst, Wissenschaft und Liebe.
you guys should definitely try out some Rammstein's songs live. just for a different perspective. don't get me wrong, their music videos are great though.
I agree with you. Rammstein is not trying to glorify their countries history. Like no country should. And I did understand what they were trying to do in the music video. There is no country that is innocent. Every country has something in their history that they would want to remove, but shouldnt....they should teach it. All the good and bad.
It flashes by so quickly that it's difficult to catch, but the 4 Jews being hung had different badges on their clothes. A pink triangle to represent the LGBT community, a gold star to represent the Jews, a red square that represents political opponents, and nothing on the last to represent the innocent bystanders, all of which were victims at some point in Germany's history.
Great reactions guys!
Forgot to add........this is just one example of the depth of detail of symbolism that Rammstein adds to the majority of their productions.
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I liked the discussion in the end a lot! I think why germans arent that proud/patriotic about being german has to do with the being taugth about history in school. And thats not in particulary that I am ashamed of something that people did before I was born to put it simple. Its more about the fact that i saw what extreme patriotism can do to people. Of course the Nazi regime was very extreme in many ways but patriotic wars like that happend all the time back then. And sadly they still happen today...
And what about the SHARPLANINAC doggies at the end? Where do they come in the whole story?
Wow, i guess you got the context of this artwork really good for beeing americans who of course are not that deep in the german history as we germans are! 👍
Id love to see you reacting to the Rammstein Song "Amerika" - its satiric as well, but i guess its not even close as hard hitting as "Deutschland"... ✌️
Really enjoyed this reaction. I think, you guys should also do a reaction to the video of Amerika by Rammstein.
Here is the link for a version with english subtitles: ruclips.net/video/2QMLnmUuaBQ/видео.html
Keep up the good work & greetings from Germany
I love this song because it encapsulates so much of how I feel. I’m a fairly left of center Texas progressive (I think you and your trans partner should be allowed to protect your THC crop with a pew pew) and I love America and I hate things about America. And this song IS that emotion.
The video is pretty much representation of German history/ story telling
Pretty bad translation, but just good enough 😂
Oh American Historie is thousends of years old. The pueblos dated to the year jesus was born,. Not mention Cultures of midle and South America. But you are right, seems to me that was not tought. And btw there were not only Judes waiting for hanging. There are Komunists (Red Singn), Gay (blue triangel) too. But yes - only the judish hung at the End. Please don t take it as offending. Just think about it. For more Info s, read Megatwingos Post- Helps to understad this (Master) Peace of ART.
Dear Gentlemen
Yes i totally agree you need to know german history, NOW may be one of the intensions is to get you interestest in european history? I am german and there is no pride , but a sence of guild. We germans did the historical crime, nobody can deny. So i am 62 but i am trying it will never ever happening again. And yes it is tought in german schools, so you might understand when I was a teenager there were many many conflicts between the generations.Asking my father .... BTW I did refuse to talk to him age 17 till he passed away, there was evidence he took part
They caused the outrage themselves though. Rammstein took it out of context themselves because they used the scene from the concentration camp in a promo before releasing the full song and video. The criticism was that they used the holocaust for commercial reasons, and as much of a fan I am, I did agree with the critics on that.
I believe the controversial came not only with the Nazi scene you were referring to at the beginning but with the lyrics that came with that scene... Because while the Nazis where in power there was a different verse sung of the German hymn. This verse is now illegal to sing out loud in Germany (I think). It used to say "Deutschland, Deutschland über alleM...". Till changed one letter and sung "Deutschland, Deutschland über alleN.." It changes the meaning a little bit but translated to English it still means "Germany, Germany above all". I remember when I first listened to this song, I had to listen to this lines twice or three times 'cos I couldn't trust my ears...
We are getting educated about the past but we are not proud of what our ancestors have done and hopefully this will never happen again. I love Germany but I feel ashamed of being a German at the same time' cos the past was horrifying. It's important to know about it. But we take it very seriously. And we are definitely not proud of our nation (at least that's how I feel as a German)
As some other metioned: The first stanza of the "Lied der Deutschen" (literally "Song of the Germans" a poem written 1841 in British exile on the now german island of Helgoland later added as lyrics to the music of the Austrian Emperors hymn) starts with the outcry for a unified German nation and that this "Germany" should be above all other priorities (Deutschland, Deutschland über alles - Germany, Germany above all). This was the Anthem before the Nazis (Weimar republic) but the Nazis missused the and changed the meaning to "Germany (and special) Germans are superior" - Something that could be translated as "Germany above everybody" or in German (like in the Song) - Deutschland über allen (with n instead of s).
Until 1990 or 1991 (after reunification) in West Germany the first Chancelor (Adenauer) and President (Heuss) have had different opinions about the National Hymn (In Germany the Hymn is not a mentioned part of the Constitution or defined by law but the Chancelor and the President must both agree in a official published letter what the hymn is). When I remeber correct one of them wanted a complete new hymn the other wanted no change (the same as in the Weimar republic and in the later dictatorship). After some disput they agreed to use the old anthem but only the third stanza about unification, civil rights and freedom should be sung.
The first and second stanzas are not forbidden as long as they are not used in a context of heroisation of the Nazi idiology.
After the reunification the National Anthem problem occoured a second time - should we use the West German, the East German, a combination of both or something complete new as national anthem. This time the President and the Chancelor explicit agreed that the german national anthem is the third stanza (and only the third stanza) of the poem "Lied der Deutschen" with the Music of the Emperors Hymn from Joseph Haydn.
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Very nice reaction. Thank you!
If you want some explanation of the details of the historical content and what represents what, then watch this: >>> "Deutschland by Rammstein: An Analysis"
In Germany it is the Fatherland and in Russia the Motherland.
It's Vaterland in German. Fatherland
good reaction - imo (again)
But why reacting to the central and most emotional moment with "yeah, there's a ton of shit" ?
It's mostly worth watching out for the moment of enlightment in Rammsteins videos.
Here it was the "holy shit - what have I done"-Moment. Feel a little sad about you missed it (like everyone else missed it- by the way)...
Wir können nur aus unseren Fehlern lernen egal ob Deutsche oder Amerikaner.
The German post-war generation of WW2 is very concerned with their bad history, at least the vast majority of them, and can't be proud of it. Were the biggest racists in sight of the world. That's why we Germans can't understand the American people that Americans are proud of their country. Because American politics has created a lot of suffering in the world! In Vietnam, South America, the Middle East and Afghanistan. Even in their own, the United States, there was no equality between blacks and whites until the late 1960s. Even today it's still like that, not by all Americans, but look at the police violence against black people, jobs etc. For a long time we were ostracized for what we did to the Jews and many others. But we managed to a large extent to establish friendly relations with former enemies. The American people should learn from us! and more politically committed to it and not blindly follow everything their government does.
#truth
I hope, no Americans vote Trump to president. He is a bad mad man
Just a view words to your conversation at the end of the song:
You are absolutely right with the founding history of the US.
But unfortunately people don't need to go back that far in history to see what the US government has done (and probably is still doing)
One thing is the A-bombs in Japan ...
But another one is the terrorism which was actually created and supported by the US (CIA) starting from 1953 on.
Later they supported Sadam Hussain and also made Osama Bin Laden great.
So actually they founded the Al Qaida by bringing thousand of potential suicide terrorists to kill russian people.
So with this being said 9/11 was more or less really an inside job, even if it wasn't.
Creating a beast by can't controlling it ... Hope you get what I mean ...
But I really appreciate that reaction.✌️
Hi!can you react to bts's spring day. It is an amazing song and it's mv is more amazing bc of the meaning behid it. After listening to spring day pleasee watch the explanation video of the spring day mv.
I can see that you are uncomfortable talking about american history, but these are different times and people in the US must confront their past, that's the only way to move forward..
Never in my life did I think I would see a video that would show the failures of a Republic, a Socialist state, and a Communist state all in less than 9 minutes!!