It's also antithetical to his character. Goku is not one to address people in a polite manner. For example in the Japanese version he calls the Muten Roshi Old Timer. The dubs taking that aspect of hjs character away is a problem.
I have a newfound respect for the TFS dub now. There are a few references to the other English dubs in the TFS take. Like cat loves food, Or Big Green. Or that 'dragonball, gotta get them all' song. It's awesome, and the perfect tribute from fans of the franchise.
You could not BELIEVE my shock when I rewatched DBZ after a decade and being so disappointed to not hear the 'Over 9000' line read being said in the same way I remember it, only to JUST NOW realize that the reason is because that _one line read_ was in the version of the dub I saw on Nicktoons as a kid and I just forgot that the version of DBZ I watched as a kid was the Nicktoons version of Kai. I am shook.
Here in Latin America, in the original DBZ dub Vegeta said "Its over... 8000", with his voice actor, René García, delivering the line with a shocked tone. Years later, DBZ Kai was dubbed in Spanish with various recasts and Vegeta's new voice actor said "It's over 9000!" imitating the English dub, since unlike the original DBZ dubbed, Kai's was dubbed using the English version as a base
I can't believe it took until fucking 2007 until there was a consistent start to finish dub of dbz, it's crazy that I didn't notice this stuff as a kid SOO frustratingly inconsistent
I actually had a chance to speak with Lex Lang with his role as Goku in the Bang Zoom! dub of DBS in which he told me that the dub was produced before the FUNimation version because TOEI animation wanted to get a dub for the show ASAP. He also commented on the fact that the dub was extremely rushed but got progressively better the more they worked on it.
I mean, Funi was still busying dubbing Kai Buu Saga during that time, so it's not surprising that Bang Zoom dub released first lol (Still surprised me that so many people didn't know about this).
Oh god. the mondo cool scene was the best dub ever. I literally had a break up in my 20s, so i was straight binging DBZ, stone faced, absorbing, enjoying. Got to this scene, paused, rewinded, belly laughed myself to tears.
This is amazing. How I went my whole life not seeing this was great. Almost as much as knowing guy's in genral have this series as legit comfort watching
it was worth noting that Faulconer didn't write even half of the score he claimed. Most of the writers on the DBZ funi soundtrack were Julius Dobos, Mike Smith and Scott Morgan
Remember the episode of Dragon Ball Z, where Goku and Chi Chi released the bees into Vegeta's garden? Which then Mrs. Brief said. "The bees, the bees are here." Leaving Bulma absolutely dumfounded. Then Trunks told Vegeta about the bees in the garden, and Vegeta instructed Trunks to get the bug spray. Goku tried stopping Trunks from spraying the bees, but Vegeta pulled a shot gun on Goku. Absolutely insane episode, seldom talked about though.
Harmony Gold Dub was the base for the first Latin American dub. And the script for "Team Four Star Version" of the Cell Tournament Movie was used in Latín American dub of TFC.
@@The_One_In_Black that's right. The script for Latin American Dub was based in Original Japanese Scripts, but The first 60 chapters had censorship in some scenes because of local televisión stations.
@@The_One_In_Black actually, DB's first Neutral Spanish dub was made in 1993 and based on the HG dub but it didn't cover the entire series, and they changed all of the characters' names. When Bandai entered the Latin American market following the success of Sailor Seiya, a new dub for Dragon Ball was made, covering all of the episodes from the Pilaf saga to GT, and it took almost 6 years (from 1995 to 2000). Interestingly, some actors from the HG dub appeared in the new dub made by Intertrack, for example Rossy Aguirre who voiced Arale in the HG dub became Krillin in the new dub Regarding the innuendos, the HG Latin dub was more explicit than the second one, but it still was less censored than the U.S. version
As someone who grew up watching the Toonzai version of Kai its so weird to have someone else acknowledge its existence (So blue Popo wasn't just a fever dream after all)
I actually learned recently that some of the voice actors for the "Big Green" dub of the "Dragon Ball" movies voice acted in the UK dubs of the Humongous Entertainment games.
What I also find interesting about the Bang Zoom dub is that Future Trunks was voiced by Sean Chiplock who is best known by the general public as Revali in Breath of the Wild.
Tbose of us in our 40s and 30s remember all too well the pain of seeing constant reruns of DBZ just to end at Goku arriving on Namek, and it resetting back to Raditiz. It felt like two to three years of that.
God yes, it was horrible! I must've seen that cycle repeat 20 damn times in middle school. I didn't know we'd be seeing new episodes starting with the Frieza saga after those painful years of repeats, and I tuned in after school one afternoon to see Frieza cut himself in half with his own energy disc. I flipped my lid, knowing immediately that I had missed a loooooot.
Fun fact: the harmony gold did finish airing in Mexico, where its 60 episodes would air in spanish. The spanish version was also kinda lost media, but most episodes are found i think so you can at least see how the Harmony cut was made.
11:20 Trippy to me that I recognize the voices of the people in this clip as the folks who worked on Code Lyoko; considering that I never got to hear them in anything after Lyoko.
The English dubs I grew up with in Europe: 1. Ocean Dub all the way into the Namek arc. It had the Rock the Dragon intro. 2. Then Funimation took over and it had a Bruce Falconer intro with visuals from the show. 3. Then they had batches of episodes of both Ocean and Funi. That continued into the Android arc. 4. Then in the Cell and Buu arc it only had the Funi dub. In the Buu arc there was the same Bruce Falconer instrumental intro with We Gotta Power intro visuals playing. Years after Cartoon Network was done airing it, new DVD's/VHS were released around 2005 as ''Uncut and Remastered'' thats when Funimation redubbed the entire series from start to finish. A lot of dialogue also changed. It then had a Cha-La-Head-Cha-La intro visuals but with a rock theme playing over it. This is where Vegeta's voice also changed. Chris Sabat did his voice very differently in the original Funimation dub. He started to sound like the Vegeta of nowadays. He was trying to mimick the Ocean Dub Vegeta in the original Funimation dub. A lot of people seem to forget the original Funimation dub. Which was a lot more cheesy and badly translated than the redub in the uncut and remastered version. There were also other redubs like for the Orange bricks and then years later came DBZ Kai with another redub. When you see YT videos comparing Original Funi with DBZ Kai its often not even Original Funi, its one of the redubs while Original Funi sounds really bad. It was for example the first voice acting gig for Sean Schemmel and he sounds really bad in the Original Funi dub. Ocean Dub Goku in that time was leagues ahead of him and really was the better Goku. A lot of OG Western DBZ viewers have forgotten about all this and misremember what the original Funi dub was.
Thank you for this. I've been rewatching the TFS abridged version and some of their related videos and commentary, and they often include a lot of references to different dubs
I remember waking up a t 5 AM just to watch DBZ back in like 94-95. I did not realize how different the VA was until now. i was like 5 back then. its fun to go back and hear the difference now.
This video has helped a lot to get an overview of all the different dubs. I used the older uploads to learn more, and tried to track down the different ones. I haven't been able to get many physical releases (I do have some big green and Westwood dvds), but have got a lot digital. Thanks for the great video!
@@mianriyaan2647 internet archive is a big help, and Reddit had some help I believe. Physical releases through second hand websites in countries of release (like Netherlands for Big Green dub)
Correction number 1: Actually the first opening wasn't entirely left in Japanese for a good majority of it. There wasn't English recording of it by the original artist, They couldn't plaster it in time for the US release of the first two to three sets therefore there will be some episodes Play the theme song in English and other times it will play in Japanese. The second opening's English opening was performed by a RUclipsr. And in fact, all of the music was performed in English, including the infamous Ultimate Battle. (Although I prefer that song in its original Japanese) Correction number 2: The edited Funimation dub actually aired in places like South Africa and eventually took the place of the old Toonami Asia dub in India
2:08 All the episodes made their way online 2-3 years ago. The dialogue censorship and cut scenes are about what you'd expect. Moments like Bulma's "payment" to Roshi or Oolong's attempt to escape only to get to reeled in by Bulma's panties got cut entirely. The Roshi bit played out surprisingly natural despite all the skips around the scene. Another moment in episode 4 didn't, however. It was fun picking up some lines (and dialogue censorship) Funi recycled almost verbatim in their dub. 28:00 The edited Funi dub actually did air on Toonami Africa sometime around 2018.
Fun fact, some of the Funi dub scripts were actually translated from the Spanish version. Also with the TFS controversy, it was Toei that asked Funimation to change it
Wasn't it more like forced at gunpoint? I remember hearing that Toei said that if they didn't change it, Toei would rescind Funi's dubbing rights to the series.
@@HistoryandReviews I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong, but I do remember hearing that Toei flat out said that if Funimation kept the TFS reference, they would rescind Funi's DBZ dubbing rights. I'll quickly look it up and edit this post after I find a good source either way. Edit: I'm not finding anything on it, so I could very well be wrong. At the same time, I still wouldn't put it outside the realms of possibility either, so who knows?
@@HistoryandReviews thats an exaggeration, they didnt hold them and gunpoint as in LITERALLY pointing a gun to their head, they were just threatening them
Just recently been re-collecting the "best definitive" version of Dragon Ball Z series, and to my surprise, this was a big headache sorting out "the best" version. Living in USA, I grew up with the Ocean dubs (first 53 episodes), then the Funimation dubs we know today. I remember the week when I noticed the voice change, which was around the Ginyu Force saga.
One of the weirder changes in the ocean dub was having krillen say that Vegeta nearly let them “go the way of the dinosaurs” I mean I get the implication, they’d be extinct. But in the dragon ball universe those bitches are still alive and kicking
@@gh0rochi363he also mentioned the travel to earth being the average length of an anime episode which wouldn’t really make sense if he didn’t know much about earth. I’m sure they’re just slight jokes but they do take you out like “wait how does that work?🤣”
"It cost me a trouble"! This line broke me man. Like I'm crying it's so funny wtf?! Also, the English Ocean Dub doesn't just stop at episode 53. No sir, they actually Dubbed the entire freaking series. Problem is, they've kept it vaulted and it may never see the light of day. So yeah, the entire series was done but until someone finds a way to get it out to the public it's considered "Lost Media".
It did stop at 53. But they came back but still skipped some episode. The dub also had multiple gokus and I'm talking more than the well known 3. I mean kind of. Depends if you count blue water, Westwood, and ocean as the same thing and that's mostly a Canadian voice cast. You can get the majority of the oceans dub, but to know knowledge they never dubbed it all, but I could be wrong, but I wanna say when they started airing it in Canada again they skipped some episodes between 53 and I feel almost a season later.
Its crazy when i think about just how much influence DBZ and Dragonball had on my childhood. I was born in 93', and i remember watching the Sayain saga - Goku vs Recoome fight when i was in Kindergarten. Back then we only did half days for kindergarten, and i would watch it in the morning before school. I remember being sooo disappointed every time it would restart with the radditz fight. Then i remember being in elementary school, and coming home to watch the frieza saga. Then eventually, the cell saga... I was right around Gohans age at the time, and he was my absolute favorite character. Gohan defeating Cell in that Kamehameha clash was one of the hypest moments of my young life. I remember starting to watch original Dragon Ball around this time too, they would play them on either toonami, or Adult Swim. I loved them too, eapecially the OG tournamemt sagas... Then the Buu saga was huge around the time i went into middle school, maybe early highschool. I owned the history of Trunks movie, and the tournament episodes from the early buu saga on VHS. And now, we have DBS, and DB kai, another generation is being influenced by Dragon Ball, just like i was.
My friend who lives in Singapore claims DBS was pulled from airing due to backlash of the fans, Singapore grew up with the Funimation dub, and thats what they wanted, CN asia claimed Funi's license for the series was too high and they wouldnt even budge on any deals.
"Let that child alone" is the single greatest line from any dub. Edit: Wait, the rap says "Step into the grand tour"? This whole time I thought it was "Step into the grandeur"!
Some nitpicks/corrections 3:05 Dragon Ball was done at BLT/Dick & Rodgers, not Ocean 4:28 Actually was the first dub recorded/directed at Ocean, but with the same localization process as BLT 4:30 Ron Wasserman. Shuki Levy and Haim were just the only ones credited for royalty purposes. 9:30 AB had no juristiction in Canada, only UK and Netherlands for the English dub, and France of course. 10:00 Considering you didn't criticise Funi's amateur dubbing this is a strange addition. 20:39 This was originally not a GT titled game, it was simply Dragon Ball Final Bout, and remained this way in Japan and Europe. It later had GT added for the US release. 21:08 The Bandai version in Europe had no English dubbing. It was likely Atari or Funimation's doing instead as they are featured on the American cover. They also removed the Japanese intro song for America. Europe/Bandai's is intact. 22:08 'original voice cast' is a bit of a misnomer. 25:29 It also had a CRTC listing, along with the Canadian music credit featured on Anitunes website. The leaked song was also a demo as it did not match the version heard in a editor's reel. Also, Blue Water's GT dub predated Funimation's as Ocean's Z dub concluded faster than the US broadcast. Blue Water GT was the first GT dub to have Japanese music intact, and for a long time it was the only dub with that combination. The Funimation dub was also not directed with the Japanese BGM in mind, leading to some awkwardness. Unlike the Funimation version, they did not cut out any episodes.
"it did not match the version heard in the editor reels." didn't that had a clip of goku and vegeta's beam clash. (With the music in the background) If so, then I might have heard that one while attempting to look for the "extended/full version" of the demo song. (It didn't existed). EDIT: Okay yep, that is exactly the one, holy shit it's been a while since I've heard the non-demo version of kai's ocean dub. I legit used to think that was on par of the demo at the end, I was wrong
You may not know this, but Speedy Video had also attempted to produce a dub for the Dragon Ball Z series (whether that’s before or after dubbing the movies is beyond me). I’ve only seen one episode though (Episode 5 iirc), so I don’t know if more episodes were dubbed beyond that.
Wow, the fact that the first 16 episodes were skipped in the first run of the show explains why I had absolutely no memory of anything in the first season when I went back to watch it. I thought I just didn't remember the series as well as I thought, but no, I guess they literally just skipped the entire first arc. And quite frankly... there's not actually a whole lot you're missing out on by doing that... I definitely remember hearing a lot about Baby when the show was first airing on Toonami and I distinctly remember my brother and I thinking this was a "baby" form of Buu, we'd call him Baby Buu with the logic that Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu, so Baby Buu would be even stronger than Kid Buu and that's why Goku has to go Super Saiyan 4 to fight him.
I wonder if Crunchyroll will ever be involved with a full blown, beginning to end remaster of the series that covers everything....and then give us comprehensive blu ray releases that perhaps have as many of these alternate dub and edit options as possible for optional viewing. It would be wild to have the "complete" Ocean Dub option for original Z. Or even somehow have audio options that customize and combine different aspects.
@@walterwhite4398 I'd love to watch Z in the "ocean/westwood" dub or the Funi Dub...either with the Faulconer music. I'd love to get Kai and that mythical "fully recorded ocean Dub for Kai" as an alternate option to the Funi Dub. And again, with BOTH being optional with Faulconer music, DB and Super are much more singular in the form that they exist...but there are iconic elements of different versions of the Z dub and music, and so it would be REALLY cool to get to have a comprehensive set that honors and includes all of those versions to sort of mix and match.
I wouldn't mind seeing complete redubs of DB & GT that are much closer to the original Japanese script. Maybe they could even redub the original Z anime & the DB movies/TV specials to match the rest of the series. My ideal Crunchyroll redub would be a mix of both Kai & Ocean Dub actors (Peter Kelamis as Goku, Chris Sabat as Vegeta, Scott McNeil as Piccolo, Kyle Hebert as Adult Gohan, etc.)
@@harveyplissken4604 Yeah absolutely. The entirety of the franchise is sort of...so big and sprawling with different versions, different dubs, different edits of the show...it can start to be a little disjointed and thus confusing or challenging for new fans to jump on board with or try to get into. So maybe there needs to be some kind of way to refresh it, or sort of reboot/re-tell it. I always joke about a bit of a "Kai 2.0" kind of concept where you apply the principles of the Kai remaster... -Edit to match the Manga -Fully remaster the image -New Sound Design -New Score -New Dub But applied it consistently across the ENTIRE franchise from the very first episode of DB to the end of Super. Making it all match and making it all consistent. Smoothing over and fixing some continuity issues or plot mistakes, etc Maybe taking the opportunity to try and do special edits/versions of some of the movies to make them fit within the canon. Maybe keeping some limited amounts of certain fan-favorite filler. Who knows. They could reveal it as some sort of epic project celebrating the 40th Anniversary of the original Manga in 2024.
Great video! I always find alternate dubs to be such a fascinating topic... I actually own the DVDs of the Big Green dub! Also, one slight correction I wanna make - the edited Super dub HAS aired in the UK, on satellite children's channel Pop - here's a playlist of videos showing the edits if you're curious; ruclips.net/p/PLA3Ny9ubeVwc6bVesezf4FF83R7ZOtTX2
The ocean OST wasnt made by Shuki Levy it was made by Ron Wasserman just like Funimation OST wasnt made by Bruce Faulconer it was made by 4 high school graduates
They eventually gave the UK the edited dub of Super that you mentioned. It took quite a while to get to UK TV but it airs on POP! every so often. We did get the uncensored DVDs tho too.
The Dragon Ball Z Kai Nicktoons Dub/Edit is pure nostalgia for me. It was the first time I ever watched the series in some form and I would catch new episodes every week. I love that version of the show. (Fight me!) Although the uncut version is the definitive version of Kai, and imo, the definitive version of DBZ overall, it’s pretty annoying to hear different versions of the theme song every few episodes on in the uncut DVDs/BluRays when they should’ve just stuck with the version they used on the Nicktoons version I remember… oh well. Beggars can’t be choosers I suppose.
Recently been watching a lot of your videos, and I'm already a big fan ^^ Though I kinda lost it when you pronounced Saiyan as Cyan LOL Good vids tho hope to see more :3
The Harmony Gold Dub was found… all 5 of the main episodes in fact. Someone ripped it and put it on the internet archive. And no these are not the Spanish episodes that used the harmony gold dub as a basis, these are the legit English episodes. He said it was in storage for around 30 years or so. This was around 2020 and the video I’m commenting on is from 2021 so I don’t know if this channels owner wasn’t aware or if this channel was just wrong, I just felt like pointing it out.
I can hear some misinformation about the ocean dub they did not keep the original Japanese music but instead they got Ron Wesserman/ Shuki Levy to compose the music for that dub
Goku looking up and saying “Yes, My Lord?” Is like the funniest thing I’ve seen all day
It's also antithetical to his character. Goku is not one to address people in a polite manner. For example in the Japanese version he calls the Muten Roshi Old Timer. The dubs taking that aspect of hjs character away is a problem.
@@spartanq7781 he literally always called him Kaiō-SAMA, so it's on point and you're wrong
@@spartanq7781fans like you are cringe
Then there's the Big Green dub where he says "What is it, Majesty?" in that scene.
@@AmartharDrakestone lmao what a gem
don't forget that Korin was localized as 'Whiskers the Wonder Cat' in the Harmony Gold dub.
What a great name!
Ahahahah
I didn't even realize the TFS cat loves food joke was another dub joke till now
I have a newfound respect for the TFS dub now. There are a few references to the other English dubs in the TFS take. Like cat loves food, Or Big Green. Or that 'dragonball, gotta get them all' song. It's awesome, and the perfect tribute from fans of the franchise.
You could not BELIEVE my shock when I rewatched DBZ after a decade and being so disappointed to not hear the 'Over 9000' line read being said in the same way I remember it, only to JUST NOW realize that the reason is because that _one line read_ was in the version of the dub I saw on Nicktoons as a kid and I just forgot that the version of DBZ I watched as a kid was the Nicktoons version of Kai. I am shook.
Here in Latin America, in the original DBZ dub Vegeta said "Its over... 8000", with his voice actor, René García, delivering the line with a shocked tone. Years later, DBZ Kai was dubbed in Spanish with various recasts and Vegeta's new voice actor said "It's over 9000!" imitating the English dub, since unlike the original DBZ dubbed, Kai's was dubbed using the English version as a base
Vegeta kinda yells it in the most popular American version
The meme came from the ocean dub, made for canadian audiences iirc
@@oak7741 he says it in the Funimation dub too
Yeah Chris Sabat really aced the over 9,000 bit that time in the NickToons broadcast over the uncut dub.
You did not mention that in Super they brought in Ocean Vegeta for clone Vegeta. 😁
I remember watching that and being like "wait a minute.... something's up"
I had this lovely mental image of an Ocean dub where they got Chris Sabat over to voice the clone Vegeta for them in return...
@@CD-Gaming if only
@@CD-GamingIn another universe.
@@CD-Gaming didn't Brian Drummond joke about that once?
The mondo cool line kills me
I died when I heard that line 😂
I love that line so iconic to me 😆
that's right boys
@@NikoNoxious MONDO cool
I can't believe it took until fucking 2007 until there was a consistent start to finish dub of dbz, it's crazy that I didn't notice this stuff as a kid
SOO frustratingly inconsistent
You were too busy farting
The Big Green dub would be the funniest way to introduce someone to Dragonball Z 😂
Speedy dub 😂😂
Let that child alone!
@@170skeith aah! It's big green!
Speedy dub is King 👑
DEEUEHEH HUUEHHE🤪🤪🤪💥💥💥
"You're Ara da one dat caused da trubble" -piccolo
I'm in tears.
Oooh, I thought he said "We are the ones that cause the trouble".
It's refreshing to learn about different releases of Dragon Ball without also hearing about aspect ratios
I actually had a chance to speak with Lex Lang with his role as Goku in the Bang Zoom! dub of DBS in which he told me that the dub was produced before the FUNimation version because TOEI animation wanted to get a dub for the show ASAP. He also commented on the fact that the dub was extremely rushed but got progressively better the more they worked on it.
I mean, Funi was still busying dubbing Kai Buu Saga during that time, so it's not surprising that Bang Zoom dub released first lol (Still surprised me that so many people didn't know about this).
He Also Dubs Dr Cortex?
Oh god. the mondo cool scene was the best dub ever. I literally had a break up in my 20s, so i was straight binging DBZ, stone faced, absorbing, enjoying. Got to this scene, paused, rewinded, belly laughed myself to tears.
This is amazing. How I went my whole life not seeing this was great. Almost as much as knowing guy's in genral have this series as legit comfort watching
it was worth noting that Faulconer didn't write even half of the score he claimed. Most of the writers on the DBZ funi soundtrack were Julius Dobos, Mike Smith and Scott Morgan
And the first two to work with him had a similar background to the former BGM composer Akihito Tokunaga.
Remember the episode of Dragon Ball Z, where Goku and Chi Chi released the bees into Vegeta's garden? Which then Mrs. Brief said. "The bees, the bees are here." Leaving Bulma absolutely dumfounded. Then Trunks told Vegeta about the bees in the garden, and Vegeta instructed Trunks to get the bug spray. Goku tried stopping Trunks from spraying the bees, but Vegeta pulled a shot gun on Goku. Absolutely insane episode, seldom talked about though.
There is no episode like that
@@IamToofanIt was considered filler so it was cut.
@@zadenhomunculus8652 episode no
what’s the episode number🤣 I am only asking because I’ve only watched Kai and not Z.
@@HonestlyImChill It doesn't exist. They're just referencing a meme.
Harmony Gold Dub was the base for the first Latin American dub.
And the script for "Team Four Star Version" of the Cell Tournament Movie was used in Latín American dub of TFC.
wait whatttttt
So Latin America got all the sexual innuendos in their official dub?
@@The_One_In_Black that's right. The script for Latin American Dub was based in Original Japanese Scripts, but The first 60 chapters had censorship in some scenes because of local televisión stations.
@@The_One_In_Black actually, DB's first Neutral Spanish dub was made in 1993 and based on the HG dub but it didn't cover the entire series, and they changed all of the characters' names. When Bandai entered the Latin American market following the success of Sailor Seiya, a new dub for Dragon Ball was made, covering all of the episodes from the Pilaf saga to GT, and it took almost 6 years (from 1995 to 2000). Interestingly, some actors from the HG dub appeared in the new dub made by Intertrack, for example Rossy Aguirre who voiced Arale in the HG dub became Krillin in the new dub
Regarding the innuendos, the HG Latin dub was more explicit than the second one, but it still was less censored than the U.S. version
I remember learning “¡eso no puede ser!” And “yo soy el mas poderoso en el universo” because of how often its repeated.
As someone who grew up watching the Toonzai version of Kai its so weird to have someone else acknowledge its existence
(So blue Popo wasn't just a fever dream after all)
I grew up on that version too. I was confused on why popo being blue I thought he was reacting to a event during the show
I actually learned recently that some of the voice actors for the "Big Green" dub of the "Dragon Ball" movies voice acted in the UK dubs of the Humongous Entertainment games.
What I also find interesting about the Bang Zoom dub is that Future Trunks was voiced by Sean Chiplock who is best known by the general public as Revali in Breath of the Wild.
Sean and Takeshi Kusao voice Ky Kisuke in GG Strive so that means Sean's performance as Ky is the closest thing we got to Bang Zoom Trunks
Do you think Trunks would have made it up to the divine beast without Revali's Help? LoL
@@Joe_334 If he couldn’t then that would be asinine
It's worth noting that in the UK we'd sometimes have funi and sometimes ocean so the voices would randomly be different for different chunks
@ 10:25 - 10:39
... so, is that where TFS got the idea to have Krillin refer to Dende as 'little green?!' 😲
just what i was thinking as soon as i heard big green lol
It sure is.
Might also be where they got "Let that Vegeta alone"
LOL I thought "Cat Loves Food" was a tfs joke only, not a dubbing joke. This video taught me a lot, thank you
Yea idk if you've been watching that thing that they are doing but they have said that some of the jokes are based on the dubs
Also, turns out Tattooed Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills was a real show.
@@LegitThatDude Seriously 😂
Tbose of us in our 40s and 30s remember all too well the pain of seeing constant reruns of DBZ just to end at Goku arriving on Namek, and it resetting back to Raditiz. It felt like two to three years of that.
God yes, it was horrible! I must've seen that cycle repeat 20 damn times in middle school. I didn't know we'd be seeing new episodes starting with the Frieza saga after those painful years of repeats, and I tuned in after school one afternoon to see Frieza cut himself in half with his own energy disc. I flipped my lid, knowing immediately that I had missed a loooooot.
Fun fact: the harmony gold did finish airing in Mexico, where its 60 episodes would air in spanish.
The spanish version was also kinda lost media, but most episodes are found i think so you can at least see how the Harmony cut was made.
I thought the dialogue was only changed for the zero and the magic dragon Spanish dub
I love how many DBZA jokes stem from all these dubs weirdnesses
11:20 Trippy to me that I recognize the voices of the people in this clip as the folks who worked on Code Lyoko; considering that I never got to hear them in anything after Lyoko.
Same here.
I remember watching all the Ocean dub on YTV way back in the early 2000's it feels good to hear a bit of the clips of it again.
Dragon Ball is such a fascinating series when it comes to dubbing
Yeah like how for example Goku is vastly superior in both Ocean and Funimation dubs
The Mexican Spanish dub is the best I grew up watching the Mexican dub.
Imagine thinking any dub is better than the Funimation dubs. Could never be me.
What kind of comment is this
@@Ijjklll Nah, Masako Nozawa is goat
"It's Big Green!" My world is blown, I never understood that reference in DBZA
I had a friend tell me i was insane for saying i didn't like Vegeta's original voice actor. He insisted he had the same voice actor.
it's like there was an english dub battle royale for Dragon Ball, and Funimation got the victory crown
Obviously not. Dubs were created after as well
Ocean Dub was the first one I saw, Brian Drummond as Vegeta is perfect. Good screams!
The Speedy dub of the DBZ movies make any of 4Kids' anime dubs seem like the gold standard for anime dubbing.
The English dubs I grew up with in Europe:
1. Ocean Dub all the way into the Namek arc. It had the Rock the Dragon intro.
2. Then Funimation took over and it had a Bruce Falconer intro with visuals from the show.
3. Then they had batches of episodes of both Ocean and Funi. That continued into the Android arc.
4. Then in the Cell and Buu arc it only had the Funi dub. In the Buu arc there was the same Bruce Falconer instrumental intro with We Gotta Power intro visuals playing.
Years after Cartoon Network was done airing it, new DVD's/VHS were released around 2005 as ''Uncut and Remastered'' thats when Funimation redubbed the entire series from start to finish. A lot of dialogue also changed. It then had a Cha-La-Head-Cha-La intro visuals but with a rock theme playing over it. This is where Vegeta's voice also changed. Chris Sabat did his voice very differently in the original Funimation dub. He started to sound like the Vegeta of nowadays. He was trying to mimick the Ocean Dub Vegeta in the original Funimation dub.
A lot of people seem to forget the original Funimation dub. Which was a lot more cheesy and badly translated than the redub in the uncut and remastered version.
There were also other redubs like for the Orange bricks and then years later came DBZ Kai with another redub. When you see YT videos comparing Original Funi with DBZ Kai its often not even Original Funi, its one of the redubs while Original Funi sounds really bad. It was for example the first voice acting gig for Sean Schemmel and he sounds really bad in the Original Funi dub. Ocean Dub Goku in that time was leagues ahead of him and really was the better Goku. A lot of OG Western DBZ viewers have forgotten about all this and misremember what the original Funi dub was.
Thank you for this. I've been rewatching the TFS abridged version and some of their related videos and commentary, and they often include a lot of references to different dubs
Team Four Star: "Am I a joke to you?"
Just kidding, because they wouldn't consider themselves a dub, but a lot of the viewer base would.
It's a parody, treat it as one.
I remember waking up a t 5 AM just to watch DBZ back in like 94-95. I did not realize how different the VA was until now. i was like 5 back then. its fun to go back and hear the difference now.
This video has helped a lot to get an overview of all the different dubs. I used the older uploads to learn more, and tried to track down the different ones. I haven't been able to get many physical releases (I do have some big green and Westwood dvds), but have got a lot digital. Thanks for the great video!
wherw did u get them?
@@mianriyaan2647 internet archive is a big help, and Reddit had some help I believe. Physical releases through second hand websites in countries of release (like Netherlands for Big Green dub)
Correction number 1: Actually the first opening wasn't entirely left in Japanese for a good majority of it. There wasn't English recording of it by the original artist, They couldn't plaster it in time for the US release of the first two to three sets therefore there will be some episodes Play the theme song in English and other times it will play in Japanese.
The second opening's English opening was performed by a RUclipsr. And in fact, all of the music was performed in English, including the infamous Ultimate Battle. (Although I prefer that song in its original Japanese)
Correction number 2: The edited Funimation dub actually aired in places like South Africa and eventually took the place of the old Toonami Asia dub in India
This is the English opening of Super prior to the tournament of power ruclips.net/video/qO--MmHsHBA/видео.html
And here is the TV edit for the English version of opening 2 aka the tournament of power opening: ruclips.net/video/455BEM4eHOk/видео.html
Here is the 90 second version of opening 2: ruclips.net/video/xMA4SoUa5YA/видео.html
2:08 All the episodes made their way online 2-3 years ago. The dialogue censorship and cut scenes are about what you'd expect. Moments like Bulma's "payment" to Roshi or Oolong's attempt to escape only to get to reeled in by Bulma's panties got cut entirely. The Roshi bit played out surprisingly natural despite all the skips around the scene. Another moment in episode 4 didn't, however. It was fun picking up some lines (and dialogue censorship) Funi recycled almost verbatim in their dub.
28:00 The edited Funi dub actually did air on Toonami Africa sometime around 2018.
I respect the amount of research and work this video took to make. My hat is off to you, good sir.
If not for nepotism, most of this wouldn't have happened.
Fun fact, some of the Funi dub scripts were actually translated from the Spanish version.
Also with the TFS controversy, it was Toei that asked Funimation to change it
Wasn't it more like forced at gunpoint? I remember hearing that Toei said that if they didn't change it, Toei would rescind Funi's dubbing rights to the series.
@@alexbubble6952 no one held a gun, stop exaggerating
@@HistoryandReviews I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong, but I do remember hearing that Toei flat out said that if Funimation kept the TFS reference, they would rescind Funi's DBZ dubbing rights. I'll quickly look it up and edit this post after I find a good source either way.
Edit: I'm not finding anything on it, so I could very well be wrong. At the same time, I still wouldn't put it outside the realms of possibility either, so who knows?
@@alexbubble6952 they did say that but you said they held a gun to their head which is not true
@@HistoryandReviews thats an exaggeration, they didnt hold them and gunpoint as in LITERALLY pointing a gun to their head, they were just threatening them
Wow, TFS really missed a gold mine with "mondo cool", so many opportunities
Just recently been re-collecting the "best definitive" version of Dragon Ball Z series, and to my surprise, this was a big headache sorting out "the best" version. Living in USA, I grew up with the Ocean dubs (first 53 episodes), then the Funimation dubs we know today. I remember the week when I noticed the voice change, which was around the Ginyu Force saga.
Goku being named Zero is lowkey badass
Lmao nahhhh
All five Harmony Gold episodes have been found and archived thankfully
The Bulma from that Dub came back to dub Bulma for Bang Zoom DBS
One of the weirder changes in the ocean dub was having krillen say that Vegeta nearly let them “go the way of the dinosaurs”
I mean I get the implication, they’d be extinct. But in the dragon ball universe those bitches are still alive and kicking
It's crazier when you think I'm Super Beerus killed the dinosaurs, but like you said they exist still
@@gh0rochi363he also mentioned the travel to earth being the average length of an anime episode which wouldn’t really make sense if he didn’t know much about earth. I’m sure they’re just slight jokes but they do take you out like “wait how does that work?🤣”
I’m always gonna love the Pioneer Dub with Bruce Fauconer.And besides the Japanese version Chris Sabat is the greatest voice actor of Goku.
um Chris Sabat voices Vegeta and Piccolo. sean schemmel voices Goku
@@Drovilol I’m aware…what I meant was Sabat has the best Goku voice compared too the other dubs from the clips played in this video
@@lirahbaril5807 sabat didn't voice goku. I dont understand
@@lirahbaril5807 you mean Sean Schemmel right?
In a Alternate Universe Prolly.
Underrated channel, I must say.
Thank you
@@FumeiComTV why does blooma have blue hair when in the manga and path to power she has purple which stands out more to me
@@razkableidk
*cough* dbza? Yes not an official dub but those are my head canon voices for the characters
11:28 this laugh still haunts til this day
his laugh was trying to go super saiyan
Who is watching this after the creator had passed away
"It cost me a trouble"! This line broke me man. Like I'm crying it's so funny wtf?! Also, the English Ocean Dub doesn't just stop at episode 53. No sir, they actually Dubbed the entire freaking series. Problem is, they've kept it vaulted and it may never see the light of day. So yeah, the entire series was done but until someone finds a way to get it out to the public it's considered "Lost Media".
It did stop at 53. But they came back but still skipped some episode. The dub also had multiple gokus and I'm talking more than the well known 3. I mean kind of. Depends if you count blue water, Westwood, and ocean as the same thing and that's mostly a Canadian voice cast. You can get the majority of the oceans dub, but to know knowledge they never dubbed it all, but I could be wrong, but I wanna say when they started airing it in Canada again they skipped some episodes between 53 and I feel almost a season later.
The edited version of DBS is airing on Pop in the UK, and streaming on the BBC there as well
"Master Pogi" literally means "Master Handsome" in Filipino (Tagalog) ✌️😁
Its crazy when i think about just how much influence DBZ and Dragonball had on my childhood. I was born in 93', and i remember watching the Sayain saga - Goku vs Recoome fight when i was in Kindergarten. Back then we only did half days for kindergarten, and i would watch it in the morning before school. I remember being sooo disappointed every time it would restart with the radditz fight.
Then i remember being in elementary school, and coming home to watch the frieza saga. Then eventually, the cell saga... I was right around Gohans age at the time, and he was my absolute favorite character. Gohan defeating Cell in that Kamehameha clash was one of the hypest moments of my young life. I remember starting to watch original Dragon Ball around this time too, they would play them on either toonami, or Adult Swim. I loved them too, eapecially the OG tournamemt sagas... Then the Buu saga was huge around the time i went into middle school, maybe early highschool. I owned the history of Trunks movie, and the tournament episodes from the early buu saga on VHS.
And now, we have DBS, and DB kai, another generation is being influenced by Dragon Ball, just like i was.
NO WAY
CAT LOVES FOOD IS FROM AN OFFICIAL DUB!? I THOUGHT IT WAS A TFS JOKE
My friend who lives in Singapore claims DBS was pulled from airing due to backlash of the fans, Singapore grew up with the Funimation dub, and thats what they wanted, CN asia claimed Funi's license for the series was too high and they wouldnt even budge on any deals.
Bro, fucking thank you for making this video, I had no clue of the AB Group dub 😂😂 “let that child alone” & Gokus laugh fucking murdered me 😂😂
Db literally is a product of its mid 80's timeline...it's so sexual...without dbz as a sequel I doubt we ever get the series out west sadly...
"Let that child alone" is the single greatest line from any dub.
Edit: Wait, the rap says "Step into the grand tour"? This whole time I thought it was "Step into the grandeur"!
Did you know gt meant grand tour
did this guy never watch GT or what
Such good production quality. I thought the channel would’ve had more subs. You’ve got mine.
Some nitpicks/corrections
3:05 Dragon Ball was done at BLT/Dick & Rodgers, not Ocean
4:28 Actually was the first dub recorded/directed at Ocean, but with the same localization process as BLT
4:30 Ron Wasserman. Shuki Levy and Haim were just the only ones credited for royalty purposes.
9:30 AB had no juristiction in Canada, only UK and Netherlands for the English dub, and France of course.
10:00 Considering you didn't criticise Funi's amateur dubbing this is a strange addition.
20:39 This was originally not a GT titled game, it was simply Dragon Ball Final Bout, and remained this way in Japan and Europe. It later had GT added for the US release.
21:08 The Bandai version in Europe had no English dubbing. It was likely Atari or Funimation's doing instead as they are featured on the American cover. They also removed the Japanese intro song for America. Europe/Bandai's is intact.
22:08 'original voice cast' is a bit of a misnomer.
25:29 It also had a CRTC listing, along with the Canadian music credit featured on Anitunes website. The leaked song was also a demo as it did not match the version heard in a editor's reel.
Also, Blue Water's GT dub predated Funimation's as Ocean's Z dub concluded faster than the US broadcast. Blue Water GT was the first GT dub to have Japanese music intact, and for a long time it was the only dub with that combination. The Funimation dub was also not directed with the Japanese BGM in mind, leading to some awkwardness. Unlike the Funimation version, they did not cut out any episodes.
Bro knows and pays attention to dragon ball unlike most fans
"it did not match the version heard in the editor reels."
didn't that had a clip of goku and vegeta's beam clash. (With the music in the background)
If so, then I might have heard that one while attempting to look for the "extended/full version" of the demo song. (It didn't existed).
EDIT: Okay yep, that is exactly the one, holy shit it's been a while since I've heard the non-demo version of kai's ocean dub. I legit used to think that was on par of the demo at the end, I was wrong
I remember thinking that DBZ Kai was hot garbage, but that was only because my first exposure to Kai was the 4Kids dub.
4kids never dubbed Kai they just shown the funimation dub but edited
@@samuel-wankenobi Nicktoons edits were better.
19:02 I actually do like that opening sequence for Dragon Ball GT for its intensity.
The AB Groupe dub was NOT produced by AB itself
It was sold by them though.
Blooma is a more correct way to translate her name from the Japanese spelling.
Yeah, but she literally wears a shirt that says "BULMA" in her first appearance so whaddya gonna do
@@rassilontdavros3004 She also wears a shirt that says "BLOOMER"
@@SSJBartSimpWhen did she wear the Blooma t-shirt? I don't remember I had ever seen that in the manga lol
11:28 goku kinda laughing like TFS popo
11:18 -- "really quite good to watch for a laugh"
Hah, I see whatcha did there 👀👀👀👀👀
You may not know this, but Speedy Video had also attempted to produce a dub for the Dragon Ball Z series (whether that’s before or after dubbing the movies is beyond me). I’ve only seen one episode though (Episode 5 iirc), so I don’t know if more episodes were dubbed beyond that.
They dubbed 12 episodes
@@Jaysterrr Yeah, that’s it.
Ah yes the cyan saga
My favorite color and dragon ball arc
It's actually the correct pronunciation, the closest to Saiyajins, which is what Saiyans are called in the original.
Not incorrect.
That’s how to actually pronounce Saiyan.
Wow, the fact that the first 16 episodes were skipped in the first run of the show explains why I had absolutely no memory of anything in the first season when I went back to watch it. I thought I just didn't remember the series as well as I thought, but no, I guess they literally just skipped the entire first arc. And quite frankly... there's not actually a whole lot you're missing out on by doing that...
I definitely remember hearing a lot about Baby when the show was first airing on Toonami and I distinctly remember my brother and I thinking this was a "baby" form of Buu, we'd call him Baby Buu with the logic that Kid Buu was stronger than Super Buu, so Baby Buu would be even stronger than Kid Buu and that's why Goku has to go Super Saiyan 4 to fight him.
I wonder if Crunchyroll will ever be involved with a full blown, beginning to end remaster of the series that covers everything....and then give us comprehensive blu ray releases that perhaps have as many of these alternate dub and edit options as possible for optional viewing.
It would be wild to have the "complete" Ocean Dub option for original Z. Or even somehow have audio options that customize and combine different aspects.
That be interesting
@@walterwhite4398 I'd love to watch Z in the "ocean/westwood" dub or the Funi Dub...either with the Faulconer music.
I'd love to get Kai and that mythical "fully recorded ocean Dub for Kai" as an alternate option to the Funi Dub.
And again, with BOTH being optional with Faulconer music,
DB and Super are much more singular in the form that they exist...but there are iconic elements of different versions of the Z dub and music, and so it would be REALLY cool to get to have a comprehensive set that honors and includes all of those versions to sort of mix and match.
@@creategreatness8823 yeah
I wouldn't mind seeing complete redubs of DB & GT that are much closer to the original Japanese script. Maybe they could even redub the original Z anime & the DB movies/TV specials to match the rest of the series. My ideal Crunchyroll redub would be a mix of both Kai & Ocean Dub actors (Peter Kelamis as Goku, Chris Sabat as Vegeta, Scott McNeil as Piccolo, Kyle Hebert as Adult Gohan, etc.)
@@harveyplissken4604 Yeah absolutely.
The entirety of the franchise is sort of...so big and sprawling with different versions, different dubs, different edits of the show...it can start to be a little disjointed and thus confusing or challenging for new fans to jump on board with or try to get into.
So maybe there needs to be some kind of way to refresh it, or sort of reboot/re-tell it.
I always joke about a bit of a "Kai 2.0" kind of concept where you apply the principles of the Kai remaster...
-Edit to match the Manga
-Fully remaster the image
-New Sound Design
-New Score
-New Dub
But applied it consistently across the ENTIRE franchise from the very first episode of DB to the end of Super. Making it all match and making it all consistent. Smoothing over and fixing some continuity issues or plot mistakes, etc
Maybe taking the opportunity to try and do special edits/versions of some of the movies to make them fit within the canon. Maybe keeping some limited amounts of certain fan-favorite filler. Who knows.
They could reveal it as some sort of epic project celebrating the 40th Anniversary of the original Manga in 2024.
That's right boys... Mondo COOL.
That Dragonball theme song... I didnt think anybody remembered it
Great video! I always find alternate dubs to be such a fascinating topic... I actually own the DVDs of the Big Green dub! Also, one slight correction I wanna make - the edited Super dub HAS aired in the UK, on satellite children's channel Pop - here's a playlist of videos showing the edits if you're curious; ruclips.net/p/PLA3Ny9ubeVwc6bVesezf4FF83R7ZOtTX2
The ocean OST wasnt made by Shuki Levy it was made by Ron Wasserman just like Funimation OST wasnt made by Bruce Faulconer it was made by 4 high school graduates
The idea that there were bootleg dubs of dragonball z going around is insane to me for some reason
They eventually gave the UK the edited dub of Super that you mentioned. It took quite a while to get to UK TV but it airs on POP! every so often.
We did get the uncensored DVDs tho too.
It’s on pop but it also on cbbc/bbc iplayer in hd which is weird to put there while it’s on pop
Excuse me has anyone seen my arm?
You cant miss it, it's GREEN!
It’s all about the Big Green Dub
The Dragon Ball Z Kai Nicktoons Dub/Edit is pure nostalgia for me. It was the first time I ever watched the series in some form and I would catch new episodes every week. I love that version of the show. (Fight me!) Although the uncut version is the definitive version of Kai, and imo, the definitive version of DBZ overall, it’s pretty annoying to hear different versions of the theme song every few episodes on in the uncut DVDs/BluRays when they should’ve just stuck with the version they used on the Nicktoons version I remember… oh well. Beggars can’t be choosers I suppose.
I watched a video of a lost dragon ball dub by LSuperSonicQ where he talked about it was a English dubbed done in Japan.
Thats likely not real.
The irony is DBZ abridged sounds way more professionally made than most of these dubs.
I wish someone else would dub the entirety of the Dragon Ball series, outside of FuniRoll, in this day and age.
Sad thing being that the ship has sailed.
25:47 OOOOOHHHHH SO THATS WHAT I SAW 4 YEARS AGO. I recognize the “never give in”
The French one feels cursed when they were laughing
Recently been watching a lot of your videos, and I'm already a big fan ^^
Though I kinda lost it when you pronounced Saiyan as Cyan LOL
Good vids tho hope to see more :3
You are a fake fan
@@HistoryandReviews I have spent the last 6 months living inside of your walls, what have you been doing?
@@MonkolokoYT doesnt feel so good now does it nerd. I walk around naked
@urbanyouths or Insane by TFS Goku.
2:53 Bro's uncle really does work at Nintendo
Lol good one
Can someone explain why a Version of the Dragon Ball Funi Intro exists where they sing about Zero like in the Harmony Gold Dub?
Huh guess you can call this the fumeicom deluxe edition
TFS did there homework when doing DBZA...
The Harmony Gold Dub was found… all 5 of the main episodes in fact. Someone ripped it and put it on the internet archive. And no these are not the Spanish episodes that used the harmony gold dub as a basis, these are the legit English episodes. He said it was in storage for around 30 years or so. This was around 2020 and the video I’m commenting on is from 2021 so I don’t know if this channels owner wasn’t aware or if this channel was just wrong, I just felt like pointing it out.
The original video was uploaded in 2016 and he reuploaded it in 2021 because it was taken down by toei
@@Jaysterrr good to know that there was a reason for a lack of its appearance. Also Toei is really stupid with copyright so I’m not surprised.
Serious question, am I really the only person that likes "Step Into The Grand Tour"?
"Linked the tracks in the description below" - realises it's a reupload with no links in the description 😔
Odd, I only thought there was the Ocean, Funimation, Malaysian, and “Big Green” dubs . How interesting!!
You deserve way more subscribers.
Plus 1 subscriber here.
I can hear some misinformation about the ocean dub they did not keep the original Japanese music but instead they got Ron Wesserman/ Shuki Levy to compose the music for that dub
They had the Japanese music for the uncut moives (only on dvd to my knowledge)
22:40 Because 8,000 was what it was in the manga, they only changed it to 9,000 to better match the lip movement.
How? 9 and 8 have the same syllable count so how would it fit better?
@@Jaysterrr The way the lips move, presumably.
10:46 that's very based of them---i agree with this change.