Pumping 700 cubic yards for an ice arena with the big dawg!!!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2023
- Pumping 700 cubic yards of concrete for an ice hockey arena. Putzmiester boom pumps 47 metre and 58 metre. Also, getting the sponge “un-stuck” when sucking back in a Z-formation.
Epic video! people not in construction wont understand the stress and pressure these guys are in for a big pour like this.. great so great!
Man this brings back memories. I ran my families concrete construction company for forty years. I'm retired now. My youngest son has ran it for the last 13 years. I really miss it. It was an adventure every day.
Love this! Yes, never a dull day. It definitely gets in the blood and becomes a part of us.
I used to tell people I would go home every day hating concrete, but the next morning I couldn't wait to get up and do it all over again. I enjoyed the video. Good luck to you.
Im a concrete finisher in Toronto for highrise condos...and all i can say is the boys that finished that slab are beasts...for anyone that doesn't know...whe the concrete trucks and the pumptruck folds up and heads home...the finishers are there for atlest 4 to 6 hours after the concrete is all layed down ...
Placer finishers definitely don’t get the credit they deserve. Damn hard work! Let’s not forget though, the pump operators day starts several hours before the placing crews, and ends at least an hour or two beyond the time which the pump actually drives away from the site.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 im not trying to take away anything...if you work any part of concrete, you're a beast.... all weather in all locations gotta get that mud down... I've worked with many good pump operators in 30 years ...this is my first video of yours, definitely subbing.... and in Toronto, we have a saying about concrete..." Hurry up and wait" ...because your either hurrying to get the trucks empty so concrete doesn't get burned...or you're waiting for them to show up...
@@jasonrideout4836 I’ll be honest, I could never do what they do day in/day out. That commercial placing/finishing is brutal work for sure. We’re fortunate out west here that we don’t see the cold winters which you guys do, but man oh man can our rain ever be miserable come mid-November..
This is why I pay for RUclips premium. The knowledge u learn from each of these channels is something u jus don’t learn in the field. Much appreciated for the content.. Keep on pumping!!!
Appreciate that my man. Wish we had RUclips 24 years ago when I first got into pumping.
Ya know you can watch it without RUclips premium right?
@@Dontworryboutit315 Yeah, but then you gotta sit through the adds. I’ve been contemplating a premium subscription for years now. Perhaps I’ll something I’ll ask Santa for come next December 😁
I just started learning a boom pump today was my 10th day it was great I love how everyday is a new day and there’s so much to learn. You have been my favourite RUclipsr haha I love learning all the tips and tricks. I work in the lower mainland too so it’s awesome to see a local guy
Appreciate that man. It’s the best job in the world as far as I’m concerned (except maybe in mid-January when it’s +2 degrees Celsius and raining sideways) 😂😂😂
@@canadianconcretepumper1979that weather kicks my ass now I’m pushing 60 but I still love the work that goes into a good job. 🐾✌️🇺🇸
Nothing more concrete Canadian than synchronous pipe slappery
You really explained what makes big booms more stressful very well.
The biggest stress point is definitely the point load. 97,800 for the front of the 63z, 105,660 front foot of the 65m Schwing. There is no room for error...
Especially this one which has a few boom functions that are completely out to lunch. We took it into a local service centre where they’re currently trying to diagnose exactly what’s going on. So far it’s not in the radio control nor the boom valves. Let’s just say the current setting will keep an operator on his/her toes 😂
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 That's how the 63z is when in rabbit..she's kinda wild lol
@@greghughey9738 this one the tip section sticks for about a half second after your let off the joystick (does this in both directions), it’s also lightning fast whereas most every other section is turtle slow. Left slew is painfully delayed, and right slew is a frick’N trigger with zero ramp-up/progression. Fortunately the same guy runs it most all of the time. First time I’d been out on it a year or so and went to slew right…. let’s just say the hose-man wasn’t thrilled with my performance 😂😂😂
I’ve tried to tune it several times but it won’t adjust using the teach battery. There’s definitely something going on deeper within the system. This pump used to be, and still should be the smoothest boom in the fleet. Gotta love these older “heavyweight” booms in terms of smoothness and lack of bounce.
Those pump cranes are incredible. When the booms are totally unfolded like that and full of concrete, the forces applied on the rotating assembly are truely eye watering from an engineering standpoint.
Only just found tour channel! And love it! Will be a constant viewer and even if its shitty video add it to another one and make a good long edit with it! 40+ minutes gets me every time!!! Love a video that goes for a while and shows in depth of everything
Appreciate that brother 🙏
Sounds like the ol’ E-6 Mack 300 motor, they’ll run forever 🐾✌️🇺🇸
Another great job done by the pros. Happy Canada day brother
Thanks man, very much appreciated 🙏
Always gotta get that timmys lol cheers from ontarible! I work in the high rise industry so i see you pump operators a lot lol cool videos. Keep em coming.
Timmy’s: the highlight of most any Canadian construction workers morning! 😁😁😁
Love it brother! Also, props to the rebar boys, from your camera it looked on point! Keep doing the Lord's work.
Thank you my man! Appreciate the good words 🙏
Of course you’re pouring an ice arena! You’ll be developing many future professional hockey players I imagine.
Nice job / pour weather was kind especially with a queue of mixers as for the diesel top-up being sidestepped one of ours did that diesel flowing out the yard and down the street into the drains..
I call the pipe slap the sound of money haha
The sales reps at ConForms would be in 100% agreement with you! 😂😂😂
The crack of the BOOM love it.
Great video. Thanks.
That was the wildest thing I have ever seen
Oiler for sure , just to keep an eye on the machine
By the way you started your morning can tell you are a professional pumper brother keep the concrete flowing
Appreciate that my brother. Thank you for watching the channel 🙏
29:22 I do that with my garden hose sometimes and water the garden for 12 hours overnight.
🎉 thanks for the video bro...🎉... JJ...😊..
Thank you for watching the channel 🙏
Hello, I am a concrete pump operator from Germany and I have two questions:
1. Why are you growing smaller and smaller end hoses? Isn't it a simple ceiling or base plate?
2. In Germany we use pinch valves that sit over the end hose to collect the concrete from the pipe. (This means that we have less wear and tear in the pipes because we don't pump in a zig zag)
Great Machines.
It's about time they made a vidio on how they clean the inside off those pipes good vidio
ruclips.net/video/cHaQ43UdiJM/видео.html
Great video buddy!
Thanks bro! One of these days we gotta get out on the 28Z of yours. I want one in the worst way! 😁😁😁
beautiful weather and the video of pouring concrete on slab, its long arms and big putzmeister pump , we have maximum 56-5 meter ,
56-5 is a great size machine. Truth be told, I actually do like running our 56-5 more than the 58-5 in this video.
ITS GREAT SEEING THIS KIND OF WORK AGAIN. I DID IT FOR 38 + YEARS AND THEN CAME BACK TO DO A 4 STORY PARKING STRUCTURE AND I DO MISS IT BUT IM GLAD IM DONE. MY POUR BODY IS TORN UP BUILDING ALL THE FORMS AND STRIPPING FORMS AND THE PUMPER COMES IN A PUMPS ALL THE MUD AND CLEANS UP AND THEN GETS TO GO HOME.
Great job taking the time to explain for someone new , say Hi to the Boys from Teddy (aka) Ocean Carrot truck
Man thats a rocky mix😮
Seems that lately we’ve been getting a much more coarse supply of aggregate. I’ve noticed this many of the major suppliers in our area.
Its crazy you guys run these pumps with just one operator. We send two guys out on every pump (line or boom). For the booms though the operator is between where they are pouring and the truck. The second guy is at the hopper monitoring the concrete that is going in and ensuring the hopper stays full. Interesting difference.
We’re in a bit of a weird market out on the Westcoast here in that we’ve got literally some of the highest real estate prices on the planet, yet the most nickel ‘N dime construction/development practices. We do send a second operators in certain situations (long line-pump job and/boom pump with hoses off then end. It’s often like pulling teeth getting the customer to agree to pay for it however.
This is the type of guy I wouldn’t hire…
If only I could find a way to move the Canada to carry on with my pumping career! The uk concrete game is buggered
This concrete pump place is more like a drilling rig oilfield place so awesome 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
You have your normal pre trip inspection and the most forgotten pump pre trip inspection. Getting to the job site and finding out it doesn’t work is a big no no. At the yard you can grab the next available pump or cancel concrete
I learned this the hard way over the years 😂😂😂
Good job greetings from Amsterdam 👍
Welcome to the channel. Thank you for watching 🙏🙏🙏
I have always wondered why the hose doesn’t control the boom in pumping mode. If you move the hose, the boom follows automatically. It wouldn’t be hard to implement, allowing the operator to focus on ensuring the pump works smoothly.
There actually was a system like this years ago in the European market (I believe it was Putzmeister whom used it). The problem with the hose guy controling where the boom goes is that he is most often focused on what is happening directly in front of him with the flow of concrete and not aware of what’s going on overhead. The number of times I’ve had a hose guy look up at me wondering why I won’t move the boom further in any one particular direction, and I then have to point out to them that there are powerlines or other instructions overhead...
It just wasn’t/isn’t a good idea due to safety concerns.
the corners of your hopper must be pretty caked up by the end of a long pour. at least i always find mine is after 5 plus hour pours. any tips for somewhat avoiding that to make for an easy wash?
I think we’ve got just the video for you! 😁
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What transmission does that have? It looks like a 10 speed. How much does it weigh? A 7 speed Allison would be pretty sweet.
This one is an 1& speed Eaton Fuller. I do love me an Allison auto, but I think this big girl would struggle with only 6-7 gears/speeds. I know operators with the Mack mDrive in these big pumps (automated manual) and they absolutely love it. I wish it had one of those. Pounding gears in stop ‘N go city traffic becomes torturous after awhile.
lol always more trucks in afternoon!
Nice lest have some fun I love when it's a big pour
Do they teach a course in school on being so nice, funny, and polite up there in the great white north?
Do most size pumper units have fuel storage in the stabilizer arms or only the larger models ?
It really depends on the manufacturer. Putzmeister has optional fuel storage in the outriggers for most of their models 31M and larger.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I could see where extra fuel capacity could come in handy when pumper is on site for an extended period of time thus saving the cost to call in a fuel truck
@@gavinperry7237 especially on these big pumps. The 58 meter burns almost one litre of fuel to each cubic meter of concrete pumped. The saddle tanks only hold about 300 litres, the outrigger leg tank holds close to 500. It’s almost a necessity on this pump.
Is this the new rec center in north van?
How many trucks pouring to keep that thing full?? We’ve run smaller pumps out of concrete with two trucks pouring flat out.
Two at a time to the hopper (10 cubic meters per truck) will keep the pump full even at wide open speed. Drivers just need to be on the ball and ready for a seamless transition from one truck to the next. It can be done, just not easily 😂😂😂
Gidday from a New Zealand Concrete truck Diver
I have no idea how that stuff works but nice video.
Are you training with Devon Larette with those forearms. Whenever the sponge would come through my buddies, and I would always find a stick to try to hit a home run with it. 😂
Is it just me or the big booms a lot slower to fold and unfold then the smaller? Mob is slower as well , also when running wet one must be a little mindfully of that situation
Yes, they absolutely are. It was explained to me by an engineer from one of the major manufacturers that the boom at full full reach and full hydraulic cannot drop faster than I believe it was 5’ per second (don’t quote me on the exact number), so the longer the boom, the slower the hydraulics will be to meet this criteria. Hence why on the big booms (55M+) the first and second boom sections are especially slow.
Hola haciendo el Hospital General de Toledo hace unos 12 años yo de encargado 4 Bombas tenía colocadas estrategicamente y echábamos 1500 metros de Hormigón en un día desde las 8 de la mañana hasta las 20 horas más o menos .😮😊
Last strip is always the fun strip
Until they run 2 yards short… 😂😂😂
What diameter is the pipe on the main booms of the 57M Pumper ?
The 58Z Putzmiester is full size (4.8” diameter) pipeline from hopper to tip.
Where is this? And man you guys are lucky it's before the building went up. I did one 13 years ago that was close to 700yds and it was a line job and we had 4 or 5 mixers supplying us with 5m per truck.
This one is in North Vancouver. They will come in afterwards and put a topping slab on it once all of the cooling pipes are installed, which which will very likely be a dirty line-pump gig.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 So they build the slab before the roof goes on.
Never realized the rink surfaces were that thick.
@@BZ1340 Typically ice rinks are poured on grade and as such are not this thick. Because this particular rink is on a suspended slab, they first pour the structural slab and then pour a topping slab once all of the refrigeration piping has been set in place.
Wow. Parking underneath?
Greetings from Germany❤
Welcome to the channel! I’m hoping to some day make it out to the Bauma show in Germany, I’ve heard it’s absolutely massive in size.
i didnt know it was possible to pump yards with a metre pump lol
real question: after you suck the second ball the inner wall of the bends clean, are those cracks showing? or is it from welding/adding wall thinkness?(or neither of those)
greetings from the Netherlands
I use a hybrid units of measure system as such not to offend any particular region of the globe 😂😂😂
The cracking seen in the elbows
is the chrome-carbide inner liner. Very common to see this type of “spider cracking”. The mild steel outer shell is what provides the structure. It’s not an area of concern unless the liner starts to chunk out.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 ah never tought about that. thanks.
Oh hey its Surreys new rink, i though i recognized those dirt banks
This one is actually at the new Harry Jerome Rec. Centre in North Van.
so i heard? havent run this pump in 6 mths? rotation i guess/hope. check those pressure filters too eh? who knew outdoor sports took so much mud
Mud warriors: nice lay down
Last night we pour 2800 yards with 60 trucks on the job
I often wish we could do larger pours like this at night. Taking traffic out of the equation to most definitely help with increasing the supply rate.
💯💯💯💯 aloha from Hawaii 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Appreciate you following the channel. Mahalo (did I say that right?) 😁😁😁
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 sure did brother 🤙🏽
is that offroad diesel in the drivetank
Heck no! You get nabbed doing that around here and they’ll throw the book at you! We don’t even run red diesel in the outrigger tank for fear of cross-contamination.
so where did the balls go? never seen them come out
Nothing pisses me off more is when concrete trucks start showing up to early...concrete just burning as it waits to get pumped
So true, especially this time of year. Loads already cook’N hot before they even get to site.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 and ya pray you dont get that guy who wont give a drop of water off his truck to mix the slump
A 58 meter and a 47 meter working together, that is magnificent. Kind of nervous when the first sponge stuck in the boom. Tell me one thing please, are you old school enough to hate all the computer screen all the time? Lollll
I’m certainly old enough to hate some of the computer screens most of the time 😂😂😂
That being said, the new Ergo 3 controls from Putzmeister do look like a huge improvement over the previous version (whim I’m not the hugest fan of).
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 😀😀😀
Why did they pull the 2nd truck so early?
Man power or money?
At the time we’re weren’t getting supply to keep the two machines going consistently. Murphy’s law, as soon as he folds up and rolls out, the convoy of ready mix trucks starts roll’N in.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 ain't that the truth
Where did the ball go?
The ball ends up sitting in the elbow located at the hopper of the pump. I’ve got a few other videos on the channel which show the washout procedure and the accompanying extraction of the sponge.
Are 5 inch hoses outlawed in Canada?lol
That may as well be. I think if we tossed on a 5” hose for a pour like this most placing crews would straight up leave. We typically don’t see the volume or supply up here to utilize the 5”.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 we do it because we’re lazy and suck sponges through the hose
@@newrealm9187 That is actually my favourite thing about running 5" hose!. I'll suck a sponge back the a 4.5" hose as well (I ust make certain to always pull 2 of em).
In Bulgaria we only run 5". It is operator good will if they put 4" but almost never smaller. 5" is faster and you don't disassemble anything. If the crews want smaller, they are free to bring one and help me put it on. 😊
@@martint9009 I’ve heard of operators around here kindly showing the placers where the sledgehammer is stored in the event that they want a smaller tip-hose 😂
Bonjour la pomme béton combien mettre merci
Man thats alot of rebar
You have that two 55 ac. 2 windows 55miles an hour
Except for that the average freeway cruising speed here in Vancouver is roughly 8 miles per hour 😂😂😂
I pump 710 my self with one pump 3 set ups took me 11 hours
❤احب العمال والعمل مع الأصدقاء بس لا تتكلم كثير فى اثناء العمل في البناء
No drip cap?…….. I don’t even know you
Sponge-water-sponge baby! If your faucet is still leak’N, you sir may want to have that looked at. 😂😂😂
Why is it that Mack can't fix their a/c issue. Every Mack I've driven a/c sucks. A mack will run forever, but it won't have a/c.
Lol!!!! It’s so true! Theirs lots to like about the Mack in terms of rugged reliability, but I will say that our cabover Peterbilt is like a Cadillac in comparison to these.
Put ur seat down good ball and you bounce so much
We’d been finding the boom controls on this girl for well over a year, turns out it was something in the main control panel (will acquire more details and follow up with you shortly kind sir).
Happy Canada day
Thank you brother! I was only hungover for one single day, which is pretty good for my old age.
that what happens when you drive a big pump
😮
i now slick pack i work wonders
I did too few gallon on ground
I’d like to say I’ve only done so once and then learned from my mistake…. but….. 😂😂😂
Nouveau inscrit.. super vidéo..bravo
Est ce possible trouver une possibilité de travailler avec vous.
All i see is a bunch of guys standing around.
A good idea would be to pour the mud BEFORE the bleachers are put in place.
In south Florida I won’t do no air conditioning anymore.. I’m too spoiled for that
I got heat stroke once about 10 years ago and haven’t been able to handle the Sun quite the same ever since. Also, I think as we get older we become les resilient to the 160 degree ambient temperatures inside of a non-air conditioned Mack MRU cab 😂😂😂
My name is Farid from Tunisia, I am 25 years old, I have a professional technical qualification in welding and assembly since my childhood, I love Canada and dream of living in Canada. The situation in Tunisia is not good, and you know the Tunisian illegal immigrants who go to Italy because of the problems and the high cost of living, and there is no work. I want to ask you for help to allow me to go out to your country to work with you.
Why send the other pumper home??!!?? Seems that a breakdown will be catastrophic. Good luck man.
40cm🤣😅
They aren't going to pay a guy $60 an hour to watch the truck when you were able to accomplish that feat by running back there and it took 10 minutes.
The cost of having a second guy at the pump on these pours can easily outweigh the costs of any downtime related to getting trucks to/from the pump, tending to the concrete going into the pump, or dealing with small mechanical issues before they become big ones. 30-60 minutes of non-productive time adds up to hundreds, if not thousands of dollars on these large volume commercial pours.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 $60 an hour plus benefits for 40 hours a week doesn't justify one hour of downtime.
@@inthedarkwoods2022 second operator is billed to the contractor, not absorbed by the pumping company. This has been standard practice in a good number of markets for decades.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 The contractor isn't going to pay the extra $60 an hour and if he does then that is going to increase your bid and your company is not going to win the contract.
@@inthedarkwoods2022 second operator is billed at $95 per hour (more in some markets, less in others) , + $75 per hour overtime for all hours before 7am/after 3pm, all day Saturday/Sundays, pump operators work an average of 55-75 hours week, pumping companies rarely “bid on contracts” in the conventional sense.
Tu me donnes le mal de mer avec ta caméra donc je te quittes , je reviendrai lorsque tu maitriseras mais ❤ quand-même
Try doing THIS with an electric vehicle! Not gonna work.
Instead of 60 to 70 an hour that you say the customer should pay you to have an extra person couldn't you also make a little less profit on jobs and pay someone 20 bucks an hour to make your job safer. Iam just saying
The margins in the pumping business are disgustingly low. In our market we’d need to pay $30+ per hour minimum for an oiler (which equates to a $45-$50 per hour actual cost to the employer, in our market at least). Most jobs these pumps (even the big ones) do not net that amount per hour billed.
I do like what you’re saying and honestly wish we could just do that though.
Most folks see the big shiny equipment and assume (understandably so) that there’s heaps of profit in this business. The truth (once again, in our market) is 7% net margin on the best of days, which is a fairly terrible return on a million dollar + investment.
Don’t ask me why we do this 😂😂😂
Employees cost money. Lol
I totally understand, I had no clue and was just curious, thank you for the reply and clarification
@@scottm344 No worries man, it’s a very good question. From an outside perspective, I think that most people would be shocked to learn how tight the margins are in this business considering the investment.
@canadianconcretepumper1979 7%?!?!? Hook a brother up!!!! Down here it's closer to 3-5%. Ppl don't understand how much machines cost to run..breakdowns START at 5k..American
U talk alot
Camera man is no good 👎
Dizzy to watch
It’s a concrete pumping channel, not a Dreamworks production.
Camera man did a great job
all those guys for this tiny pad?
Everyone was keeping pretty busy, at least from what I could see.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 I'm just joking, there is a channel called epic concrete and they literally have twice your crew sometimes pouring driveways xd they would have 200 guys on this job
@@slayersboxer915 lol! That one went right over my head 😂😂😂. It alarmist would have been nice to have a couple more guys so that we could have kept both pumps rolling right through to the end. All in all, not a bad day though.
puttsmister is the best
Dude you’re pumping concrete it’s not rocket science. You don’t have to try and sound so smart.
The appropriate term is actually “rocket surgery”.
And Ricky did a good job of acting ignorant
You must be from the deep south of you think a guy with a Canadian accent sounds smart
@@jigglychunkdavid Lol! RUclips gonna throw you in the penalty box! 😂😂😂