Love the videos, I used to operate a 36 meter schwing in the mid to late 80s. That was before there was proportional valving and all of the modern electronics in the controls. Did a lot of work in southeast Pennsylvania and Philadelphia specifically. Watching your videos brings back a lot of memories, mostly good, some nightmare days as you can imagine. Keep up the good work.
Back in the of days when you essentially had to be a mechanic to get through the day pumping concrete. I swear these days it’s evolved to the point of needing a degree in electrical engineering to keep some of these rigs moving the mud 😂
I was on a Putzemaster pump and a Mark Thompson pump we always used rubber pipe from the end of the boom to ridged pipe . Otherwise it would shake the boom and pipes to bits and blow the clamps off the pipes . I hope this information is useful . As far as I know its never changed . I must admit your pumps are very impressive to watch . Thank you for this video . Steve Williams . UK .
Appreciate that Steve. I fully agree with you. Connecting a boom into hardline directly from the tip-elbow just seems dangerous to me. The potential side and torsional loads imposed on the boom structure could lead to catastrophic consequences over time.
Yeah man, I oil mine at the end of every washout as well as prior to each pour. Once the metal “saturates” with oil it becomes so much easier to washout/keep clean.
Was on a 47m putsmeister for over 10 years here in the uk and another 10 years before on various sizes of pumps . Ive taken a couple of years out to recharge my batteries. But great video and got me thinking about how much i probably miss it .
@@PeterNorman-xd8tr Sounds like the same people whom decided it would be a good idea to have about 18 different buttons which need to be activated respectively prior to the machine pumping a drop of concrete 😂😂😂
Very nice ,i work in the netherlands Amsterdam in the concrete ,and my father hey,s working in the 70 80 on a concrete pump and leather concrete mixer to 2017 greetings Piet from Amsterdam holland 👍
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 yeah shorts can pay a little too. I've made more money from shorts than long form 4 sure and tbh shorts kinda helped my channel big time. I appreciate u supporting me as well.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 my other advice about shorts is this. have a hook in the 1st 2 seconds. weather it is a verbal or visual hook. use 5 niche specific hashtags and always always always pin a comment w a link to your long form videos
Pro-tip: move your Putz hopper vibrator to the center of the grate and your bushings will last 5 times longer (especially the one on the drivers side). Because we always run a secondary screen, our hopper vibrators are running pretty much full-time. We tried mounting them to the outside of the hopper but it just doesn’t shake well enough to move move mud through the double-screen at any decent kind of volume.
The scope of this projects is absolutely mind-blowing. The amount development in lower mainland ever since the 2010 Olympics has really changed the landscape of things.
We have a couple of them. Honest opinion: they just weren’t practical for our application. We found it far too cumbersome trying to feed the cable through 20’ lengths of hose. I could see them working great for markets in which 10’ lengths of hose are common, or perhaps for cleaning the tip-hose on a placing boom (would save from making a mess of water slurry all over the deck when cleaning the hose). To summarize, they just aren’t/weren’t for us.
That's a tough one. I'm all about the screens/technology, but I will say that I had our old 47Z Putz out for a whirl yesterday, and man oh man was it nice just having the old-school HBC radio control without any of the extra "fluff". There's something pure about it, almost like driving a pre-abs/pre-traction control/manual transmission car. I believe Alliance does now offer an LCD screen which displays several operating parameters of the machine. The 57Z in the video here is 5-ish years old now, so it doesn't have it.
They do make remotes with screens the company ordering the pump has to option it on. Ran a 32zz alliance that had a screen in the middle that told you everything. Fuel level and all even can tell you how many yards you’ve pumped
So they place the competitor’s pump on the second floor on a recently poured slab and drove a full concrete truck to it? And another think I don’t get. Why don’t you guys use the cranes to move the hoses?
The suspended slab has been engineered with additional shoring to accommodate the pump and mixers. Moving the hoses crane does not work well in most cases, this being one of them. Typically end up being more trouble/work than it saves.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 When I first saw you prepare 3 high-volume pomp for a pour I thought "What supplier do they have down there to keep up with such equipment". Flow problems were bound to happen.
@@liviuvisanYes, it’s pretty unusual for us not to see a few delays in supply throughout the course of these larger pours. All it takes is one hiccup at the batch plant, or traffic issue, and the flow gets thrown off.
Yeah, these are all McNeilus mixers. I’ve seen a few oddball (for about are) brands which have much more narrow and deep chutes. Would be interesting to learn what the theory is behind the two different styles.
Dude the rise on that alliance pump each stroke, super sketch. I see why they want hard line off the elbow, so it doesn't scare everyone. And everyone knows they can't reliably put down the numbers as putz. Let alone torture tests. Great video tho
Typically only if there’s line off the boom or of the operator cannot feasibly be close by the pump to back trucks in and/or keep an eye on what’s going on with the machine. I would like to see a second operator become standard on these bigger pumps, not only for safety reasons but also to make things more manageable for the operator… may also help in terms of industry retention (it’s currently a lot easier to drive a ready mix truck and in many cases pays better).
@Canadian Concrete Pumper You old timer bosses are the folks that can make it happen, us old timer employees get tired after a few decades .... Also need to work on the pay splits from small-midsize-large-giant machines. Down here there's less than a dollar split from a 20m to a 63m
@@greghughey9738 I could not agree with you more. Gone are the days of being young, dumb, and resilient to anything. With most of our guys getting on in age (myself included),, the only way to keep working 14 hours days on the big iron going is to have a helper take care of the grunt work. Couple of years back we did just what you’re suggesting with the pay split. Our big-boom guys are now making $6 per hour more than the small boom (40M and under) guys.
@@whosbrian4071 Our big-boom guys receive a roughly 15% pay premium versus the guys running smaller booms. I had given some thought to the possibility of yardage pay based pay, but I feel as though it could have potential for opening up a whole other can of worms. In an industry which is so heavily dependant on safety, I feel like production based pay, in our market at least, could encourage bad habits and/or corner cutting. Just my opinion though.
When the 56 was originally introduced to the North American market the rear spread was 41 feet. True story: we asked Putz if they could narrow it. The engineers looked into it and because it was originally designed for a 4 axle chassis (European/Asian market) and in North America mounted on a 6 axles chassis (increased counterweight), they were able to reduce the spread to 33’10”…. Ours was delivered at 41’ and a few weeks later Putz shipped us spacers which install in hydraulic slewing cylinders for the rear legs. The spacers limit travel and in turn reduce the outrigger spread. There’s probably still some early units out there with the wider spread which have not yet been updated. Ours is actually just a smidge over 35’ wide in the rear because we have the slightly longer rear outrigger legs which are required when the pump unit is mounted onto a chassis with the steerable rear axle, as ours is.
@@newrealm9187 30’6” in the front, 35’5” in the rear. Our 58-5 is 38’ in the front and 36’ in the rear. The 56 is a super tight outrigger spread relative to the length of the boom.
@@jaquigreenlees indeed, them Richmond ditches have swallowed up a few vehicles over the years. We had one crash through a power-pole and burry itself into the ditch right outside our yard…
@@gavinperry7237 they typically setup a makeshift testing station a decent distance away from the pump/mixer (50-ish feet or so). I’ll chat with the tester when I’m out tomorrow and try to get some more solid/reliable/detailed answers.
Ok I worked for a concrete company down in Louisiana and we had a 50 meters pump truck. That was one big truck and I drove the pickup truck worth the outrigger pads
@@jaketorbert4253 We do that around here as well sometimes, pad of dunnage pads on the pickup truck travelling with the pump . I have a buddy with pumps in Louisiana (Decker Concrete Pumping) and I’ve heard the ground conditions are really something to behold.
Slick-Willy through 220’ of boom pipe + 80’ of rubber= no bueno. We use it occasionally for priming the boom, but using it to prime through rubber line with a concrete mix containing any significant amount of aggregate has been a losing proposition, in our experience. Always grout on a high-volume pour like this. Can’t take any chances of having a delay on the prime (and this is coming from guy who LOVES bentonite primer).
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Great video! I have never before seen a firsthand account of a major concrete pour. The rebar is mind-blowing!
The rebar guys are the real hero’s of these pours. Hardest working dudes on a construction site.
Love the videos, I used to operate a 36 meter schwing in the mid to late 80s. That was before there was proportional valving and all of the modern electronics in the controls. Did a lot of work in southeast Pennsylvania and Philadelphia specifically. Watching your videos brings back a lot of memories, mostly good, some nightmare days as you can imagine. Keep up the good work.
Back in the of days when you essentially had to be a mechanic to get through the day pumping concrete. I swear these days it’s evolved to the point of needing a degree in electrical engineering to keep some of these rigs moving the mud 😂
I was on a Putzemaster pump and a Mark Thompson pump we always used rubber pipe from the end of the boom to ridged pipe . Otherwise it would shake the boom and pipes to bits and blow the clamps off the pipes . I hope this information is useful . As far as I know its never changed . I must admit your pumps are very impressive to watch . Thank you for this video . Steve Williams . UK .
Appreciate that Steve. I fully agree with you. Connecting a boom into hardline directly from the tip-elbow just seems dangerous to me. The potential side and torsional loads imposed on the boom structure could lead to catastrophic consequences over time.
Eco Hydraulic oil for the hopper is 🎉 makes my wash outs sweet also keeps a nice shine
Yeah man, I oil mine at the end of every washout as well as prior to each pour. Once the metal “saturates” with oil it becomes so much easier to washout/keep clean.
Super beautiful 😍
Here in Palestine most famous pumps are the Schwing.. I think Schwing are easier and simple.. thank you for your documentary bro 🙏
From what I see, Schwing seems to be very common in that neck of the woods. They are reliable like a hammer! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Was on a 47m putsmeister for over 10 years here in the uk and another 10 years before on various sizes of pumps . Ive taken a couple of years out to recharge my batteries. But great video and got me thinking about how much i probably miss it .
So rad my hometown 💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻love watching your guys videos !
Hooking up the elbow to the hardline is nuts
Here in the UK health and safety has gone mad no matter what industry your in i'm so glad I no longer operate a concrete pump here in the UK.
@@PeterNorman-xd8tr Sounds like the same people whom decided it would be a good idea to have about 18 different buttons which need to be activated respectively prior to the machine pumping a drop of concrete 😂😂😂
Sounds to me like a good way to tweak a boom section. I would seriously like to hear the logic from whomever came with this one.
Those are some big pumps rigs.!
Big pumps= big headaches 😂😂😂
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Very nice ,i work in the netherlands Amsterdam in the concrete ,and my father hey,s working in the 70 80 on a concrete pump and leather concrete mixer to 2017 greetings Piet from Amsterdam holland 👍
I’m far from the RUclips professional like you Cletus but I think you should post it on this channel but I’m sure you’ll make the right decision
congrats on the 3k bro
Appreciate it man. Your advice with regards to the RUclips shorts definitely seemed to help grow things.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 yeah shorts can pay a little too. I've made more money from shorts than long form 4 sure and tbh shorts kinda helped my channel big time. I appreciate u supporting me as well.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 my other advice about shorts is this. have a hook in the 1st 2 seconds. weather it is a verbal or visual hook. use 5 niche specific hashtags and always always always pin a comment w a link to your long form videos
@@GRUBB-MUDD I’ve noticed that with yours. They are quite engaging right from the get-go.
Finally some real pump lingo with boy at 35:50!! 6” softie is what Corey’s wife gets lol
This is reality TV for pump operators…. It’s really too bad that I had to exit out nearly half of the “organic pump operator speak” 😂😂😂
Hunter and Morrie, Champions
An industry legend, and a future industry legend in the making. Awesome duo!
I can only imagine the bushings you guys have to change leaving your vibrators on
Pro-tip: move your Putz hopper vibrator to the center of the grate and your bushings will last 5 times longer (especially the one on the drivers side). Because we always run a secondary screen, our hopper vibrators are running pretty much full-time. We tried mounting them to the outside of the hopper but it just doesn’t shake well enough to move move mud through the double-screen at any decent kind of volume.
8:36 you know I have to say it….. if you buy a DY then it will ALWAYS be a good day. 360 turret for the win 😊
Well played my man, well played indeed. 😁😁😁
I mixed 3 thousand yards by hand last week .i keep it old school
Now THAT would be a RUclips video!!! 😂😂😁
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 😆 😆
Nice 💯🇨🇦🇮🇹💨🍻 Gumbas 👊
Can't wait to see phase two, on no. 3 Rd side. With all the traffic over there Minoru won't cope and I ride it daily.🤔
The scope of this projects is absolutely mind-blowing. The amount development in lower mainland ever since the 2010 Olympics has really changed the landscape of things.
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Have you tried a hoserat I highly recommend it and you can probably buy or make a 20ft cable
We have a couple of them. Honest opinion: they just weren’t practical for our application. We found it far too cumbersome trying to feed the cable through 20’ lengths of hose. I could see them working great for markets in which 10’ lengths of hose are common, or perhaps for cleaning the tip-hose on a placing boom (would save from making a mess of water slurry all over the deck when cleaning the hose). To summarize, they just aren’t/weren’t for us.
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Armatures !! we just wheel barrow 1500 cubic yards .
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Alliance/ jun jin needto catch up wit the remote technology. It sucks not having any info on the remote
That's a tough one. I'm all about the screens/technology, but I will say that I had our old 47Z Putz out for a whirl yesterday, and man oh man was it nice just having the old-school HBC radio control without any of the extra "fluff". There's something pure about it, almost like driving a pre-abs/pre-traction control/manual transmission car.
I believe Alliance does now offer an LCD screen which displays several operating parameters of the machine. The 57Z in the video here is 5-ish years old now, so it doesn't have it.
They do make remotes with screens the company ordering the pump has to option it on. Ran a 32zz alliance that had a screen in the middle that told you everything. Fuel level and all even can tell you how many yards you’ve pumped
Was the mechanic guy just there on standby just incase there was an issue with one of the pumps?
That looks like a long boring day of pounding noises that would drive me to drink
Fortunately these mass pours typically take place on Saturday’s 😂😂😂
So they place the competitor’s pump on the second floor on a recently poured slab and drove a full concrete truck to it? And another think I don’t get. Why don’t you guys use the cranes to move the hoses?
The suspended slab has been engineered with additional shoring to accommodate the pump and mixers.
Moving the hoses crane does not work well in most cases, this being one of them. Typically end up being more trouble/work than it saves.
Got it!
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 When I first saw you prepare 3 high-volume pomp for a pour I thought "What supplier do they have down there to keep up with such equipment". Flow problems were bound to happen.
@@liviuvisanYes, it’s pretty unusual for us not to see a few delays in supply throughout the course of these larger pours. All it takes is one hiccup at the batch plant, or traffic issue, and the flow gets thrown off.
Saw the chutes on the mixers and they are some wide ass chutes...compared to the chutes here in New Zealand
Yeah, these are all McNeilus mixers. I’ve seen a few oddball (for about are) brands which have much more narrow and deep chutes. Would be interesting to learn what the theory is behind the two different styles.
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Dude the rise on that alliance pump each stroke, super sketch. I see why they want hard line off the elbow, so it doesn't scare everyone. And everyone knows they can't reliably put down the numbers as putz. Let alone torture tests. Great video tho
Is it about $4000.00 per 10 ft square just in rebar? That is a massive structure. Great Job Guys!
That’s actually a great question. I’ll ask around and try to find an answer for that one 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 Thank you brother
i didnt know people actually looked at the shitter colours.. everyone just seems to walk up and try to rip the god damn door off.
After about 15 years of inadvertently seeing way too much rod-buster schlong, I decided to get into the habit of knocking before entering. 😂😂😂
You guys run any schwing pumps
We actually just brought in a Schwing SP4800 trailer pump for a project we have starting up. It’s our first Schwing machine.
Do you guys use two guys on the 50+meter pumps during a pour?
Typically only if there’s line off the boom or of the operator cannot feasibly be close by the pump to back trucks in and/or keep an eye on what’s going on with the machine. I would like to see a second operator become standard on these bigger pumps, not only for safety reasons but also to make things more manageable for the operator… may also help in terms of industry retention (it’s currently a lot easier to drive a ready mix truck and in many cases pays better).
@Canadian Concrete Pumper You old timer bosses are the folks that can make it happen, us old timer employees get tired after a few decades ....
Also need to work on the pay splits from small-midsize-large-giant machines. Down here there's less than a dollar split from a 20m to a 63m
@@greghughey9738 I could not agree with you more. Gone are the days of being young, dumb, and resilient to anything. With most of our guys getting on in age (myself included),, the only way to keep working 14 hours days on the big iron going is to have a helper take care of the grunt work. Couple of years back we did just what you’re suggesting with the pay split. Our big-boom guys are now making $6 per hour more than the small boom (40M and under) guys.
How much hourly do bigger boom pay? And would it ever be possible for the operators to get paid by the yard like the mixers
@@whosbrian4071 Our big-boom guys receive a roughly 15% pay premium versus the guys running smaller booms. I had given some thought to the possibility of yardage pay based pay, but I feel as though it could have potential for opening up a whole other can of worms. In an industry which is so heavily dependant on safety, I feel like production based pay, in our market at least, could encourage bad habits and/or corner cutting. Just my opinion though.
So surprised how short those rears come out on the 56
When the 56 was originally introduced to the North American market the rear spread was 41 feet. True story: we asked Putz if they could narrow it. The engineers looked into it and because it was originally designed for a 4 axle chassis (European/Asian market) and in North America mounted on a 6 axles chassis (increased counterweight), they were able to reduce the spread to 33’10”…. Ours was delivered at 41’ and a few weeks later Putz shipped us spacers which install in hydraulic slewing cylinders for the rear legs. The spacers limit travel and in turn reduce the outrigger spread. There’s probably still some early units out there with the wider spread which have not yet been updated. Ours is actually just a smidge over 35’ wide in the rear because we have the slightly longer rear outrigger legs which are required when the pump unit is mounted onto a chassis with the steerable rear axle, as ours is.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 what’s the front? 40? My 58 is 50 and makes it bouncy beyond belief running off the back!
@@newrealm9187 30’6” in the front, 35’5” in the rear. Our 58-5 is 38’ in the front and 36’ in the rear. The 56 is a super tight outrigger spread relative to the length of the boom.
Rubber hose. Suicide to hook directly into the pipe.
Yup. Perfect recipe a tweaked boom section(s), in my opinion.
I hope they don't wait till booms start falling till they figure out that having structurally compromised equipment over people's heads is a bad idea.
NEVER GiVE UP.🎹
Muy bueno 😅
Where's this building
This is out at Richmond Centre shopping mall.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 Ditchmond, cause I saw one of the ditches eat a dump truck at Garden City and Blundel.
@@jaquigreenlees indeed, them Richmond ditches have swallowed up a few vehicles over the years. We had one crash through a power-pole and burry itself into the ditch right outside our yard…
Is the slump test on the concrete such that minimal vibration has to take place ?
Yes, I do believe that is one of the critical factors, which is why they typically will not take the test right next to the mixer and/or pump.
@@canadianconcretepumper1979 Under these circumstances then where is the slump test normally taken if not by mixer or pump ?
@@gavinperry7237 they typically setup a makeshift testing station a decent distance away from the pump/mixer (50-ish feet or so). I’ll chat with the tester when I’m out tomorrow and try to get some more solid/reliable/detailed answers.
What size are those pump trucks?
58 meter Putzmeister, 56 meter Putzmiester, 57 meter Alliance, and 38 meter Alliance placing-boom.
Ok I worked for a concrete company down in Louisiana and we had a 50 meters pump truck. That was one big truck and I drove the pickup truck worth the outrigger pads
@@jaketorbert4253 We do that around here as well sometimes, pad
of dunnage pads on the pickup truck travelling with the pump . I have a buddy with pumps in Louisiana (Decker Concrete Pumping) and I’ve heard the ground conditions are really something to behold.
А почему вы не используйте вместо цементного молочка сопли (пусковую смесь )????
Why would you need a grout truck when you could put a pack of slick Willy and water and just start pumping
Slick-Willy through 220’ of boom pipe + 80’ of rubber= no bueno. We use it occasionally for priming the boom, but using it to prime through rubber line with a concrete mix containing any significant amount of aggregate has been a losing proposition, in our experience. Always grout on a high-volume pour like this. Can’t take any chances of having a delay on the prime (and this is coming from guy who LOVES bentonite primer).
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Don’t make me blindfold you and film a “sponge challenge” video 😂😂😂
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