the sequence showing you sailing the "tank modified" boat with the rail virtually under water was something I've never seen before. The sight of the helms-person being able to control the boat in these conditions shows the boat & the skipper can do it!
I spent ten weeks exploring Portugal in my motorhome in 2005. I loved the country and the people. I carried a kayak on the roof, so I managed to get on the water. The GIS looks great!
After those modifications, I would call that boat a dinghy cruiser. You have made it more rigid and much safer. I am trying to think how you might make a boom-tent for her and carry a few wooden slats to go athwart the side tanks so that you have a flat place to sleep in the boat, under a boom-tent. That is a great boat.... forget the extra weight. She is a much more versatile boat. You have my envy.
I really like the way the entire package came together. The tanks made a huge difference and I may borrow the idea. Thank you for sharing your journey!
Just watched 20 of you videos in the last 2 days! And sure ill watch way more once i get maybe building one. Thinking the GIS above the Oz goose just for the nice lines but both looks fun indeed! Glad i found your vids looking for inspas on sailing skiffs
I bought the plans. A small boat one person can row/sail put a small outboard and fish. Goes faster than hull speed because it planes. I can't wait to build one. Good channel 👍
Hi Teo, Let me present my GIS evaluation. I built it in 2016 according to (almost) the design. Almost, because from domestic, so heavier but much cheaper materials. After two seasons I added side seats (not tanks) in the cockpit - I'm a dozen (?) years older and my knees (my girlfriend's too) are not very functional. Besides, we sail only during the day and take reefs quickly. Besides, I agree with everything - GIS is light, simple and cheap to build,she sails fast even with three adults and a dog, and works well on the waves. I'm still satisfied! Regards 😀
Dudley Dix's Argie 15 is my dream row/sail camping boat. The only tick box it lacks is a high free board, but I've seen a couple builds where they add extra height, but it's a trade off for rowing comfort. I also keep coming back to the GIS plans for the their simplicity Some day I hope to build one, but until then I live vicariously through your adventures, thank you for sharing all these years!
Yes I built an Argie 15 with 100mm of extra freeboard. The only reason I don't still have it is that I wanted a small pocket cruiser with sleepable cabin.
Hola, gracias por subiir estos videos, he disfrutado muchísimo, es usted una persona muy afortunada por esa sabiduría y laboriosidad, una pena no se transmitan esos conocimientos en los colegios
Teo to empty the boat fast I cut the top off of a 25lt plastic motor oil container. The flat lip scoops water fast! And I also keep the anchor and rode in there, scratch free!
Great video! Great skiff! The tiny but mighty Mirror dinghy also has the side tanks; great safety feature! Well done fitting them. The question is not to capzise or not but when ;) better to be as, you are, prepared. Cheers from Sweden
This was an excellent video! I knew about CLC for years and saw your build over a year ago i think and constantly think about what i would like. I only just started taking sailing lessons a week ago, so I don't know much. And I'll probably buy something first before i build. But this vid is very informative. Thank you very much!
I was in love with a Paradox boat design for a while, just because its so unique, and theres many others, Vivier, Welshford, but the Goat seems just sensible for a diy boat builder. Great video!
Very interesting info, especially regarding the side tanks. I have not yet tried a capsize recovery with my boat. Must try this summer and see how things go.
The hull looks really good, but the rig looks a bit more complicated than I would like. I will go back to balanced lug sail, that way I can use all that I have learned from sailing the GIS.
My dream boat to build is the lighthouse tender peapod by CLC (14ft sailer/rower), which I believe checks all the same boxes. And it's beautiful to boot. It might not be quite as fast and exciting to sail as a Goat, but seeing that I intend to sail this thing with a couple of smaller kids aboard, that might actually be a feature, not a bug 😅
I think the boat I want to build would be a much better school boat and safer than the Peapod. Although the Peapod is on a different league when it comes to beauty indeed! 😉
Love your channel. I am building a Matt Layden Paradox right now (first boat build for me) I have enjoyed it so far and think I can turn out a GIS in the near future also.
Its great that you found the boat that suits you. Some observations: The GIS is a 'sporty' boat (not really designed as a cruising boat, as you say) and my guess is that you are 80kg or more? It's also clear that you have good experience in handling and probably racing, small challenging dinghies in challenging conditions. So, yes, for you, its great but for anyone lighter and/ or with less dinghy experience, she would be a hard mistress. You are absolutely right that any cruising dinghy, who is likely to be sailing without a safety boat, should be able to self rescue and your additional tanks have achieved that. Def more important than lazy-jacks, nice though they are! IMO 'car top-able' is an elusive concept for the solo sailor. It can be done of course but...why not just use a combie trailer? Believe me, when you put on some years, you will wonder why car topping a proper boat (not a surfboard or canoe) ever looked like a good idea! Plus.. an idea that might work on your GIS is to have drain holes (or better, slots) one either side of the transom at tank level. When the lee rail goes under and you scoop in water on top of the thwart, it can run to the back and drain out. The famous Mirror Dinghy has these and they work. Also observing your video, some of the water scooped onto the tank runs forward to your crew space. Maybe fit some knees there to block the flow forward? Take a look at Ross Lillistone's boats on Duckworks, 'Phoenix 3' or the simpler 'First Mate' ? Maybe 'Flint' if you think rowing is fun!
Hi. Thanks for your feedback! I'm actually a small dude, 1.70m, 72kg. I have sailed from Optis to 5 ton traditional boats but never long enough on the same boat/class to became very good on any of them! The GIS can be a handful with a full sail but put one or even two reefs on and you can face a storm! And still go faster than most!! The drain holes on the transom have been om my mind for a while now, maybe next time I bring Forager home for maintenance I'll make a few mods. 😉 The knees to prevent water going forward would be a nice addition if I can make them removable. Car topping shouldn't be hard if one can come up with a contraption so that strength isn't part of the equation.🤞 I have been a fan of RL Flint's (and Fleet as a fishing skiff) for a while now. The other two you mentioned will have a lot of water in them after capsize! Cheers, Teo
Thanks so much for your videos on boat building- I love them. I am wanting a project for the winter so I’ve also decided to build a boat -Yes you guessed it. it -a goat island skiff!😊 thanks to you as as the characteristics that you mark as important are the same for me. I have built a sailing boat before back when I was living in the UK. I’m living in Portugal now also! I would love to ask you a few more questions about your build and particularly materials - What plywood did you use and where did you source it from? I would love to talk further if you have time . Obrigado Jack
Hi, question for you: what would you think if the GIS was 20% larger in every direction? So 183cm wide instead of 152cm, and 568cm long instead of 473cm.
There is a slightly bigger GIS built by Arwen Marine I believe, but only 5m. ruclips.net/video/ArHkCwYHv1Q/видео.html I think that's a question for the designer. I'm not qualified to know if the building method would work or not. Put that question to the designer himself in the GIS FB group linked below.
Great vid Teo, I’ve just finish the bulkheads doing the centreboard case, I’m going to cartop but I still think I’ll build her as you did with the centre seat & tanks. I’ve used lightweight ply & frames so fingers crossed. Thanks mate
@@colvingazelle I just searched on RUclips, there’s a number of them. I will load from the back not the side. I haven’t saved any specific videos. I’m early in the build so i will do some detailed research as I get closer. It looks pretty straight forward & luckily I have a long Ute with racks already which simplifies things.
Hi Teo, I love your channel and your thorough GIS build videos are great. I just purchased plans to build my own. I was hoping you might provide some specifics on your rail cushions: What are they made of/Where did you source them?
Thank you for the amazing channel! You mentioned that the Goat Island Skiff is not stable enough for a cruise boat. Which boat would you advise to build as a cruise boat for sailing with family?
The GIS is stable enough for a cruising dinghy, lots of people use it that way. It's just a nervous skiff with all the sail up. You can always reef it and it will still be faster than most and delivers a much more relaxed sailing session. As for a family cruising skiff...can't say, all depends what you expect from it!
Try the John Welsford Houdini. It's the one l choose over the Goat Island Skiff. I thought along the same lines as you but this had things I preferred, always a compromise. Cheers
Houdini is a beautiful boat but... too beamy and heavy off the bat to cartop so it didn't make to the final 3 on my list! Also I don't think it will match the GIS for speed. I do LOVE the "open plan" cockpit and self draining floor!!
nice boat, I m interesteded in the padded seat you have on the rails. Something I could use on my boat. Did you buy or make them? In case you made them how? or i you bought them. what are they celled? Thanks.
Try a portable bilge pump. I put a small lead acid battery in a waterproof box and wired it to a little bilge pump, which unloads water at 1 litre per second - quicker than baling and a lot more fun! About 150 Australian dollars. Good luck, I enjoy your videos.
A lot of the guys use them but I already carry so much on my boat! It's more Kgs on my back going up the ramp! And since I'm yet to capsize her unintentionally....I'll just keep sailing with the little water that's left in the boat now! 😅
You should consider putting in an automatic Elvstrom self bailer. We always used them in our dinghies. Placed in the deepest spot of the boat, the will keep the boat dry when sailing.
Yeah Teo I think you’ve done a wonderful promo job for that design and it truly makes me want to build one. However I’m going to be perfectly transparent mate. I’ve promised my step daughter to build one Oz goose to teach her to sail. Do I think it ticks more boxes than the GIS. Yes, for me, wanting to have an easy to build platform for teaching kids to sail. But certainly not the style box. But easy to build lightweight and cheap plus plenty of storage capacity are there. As is the recovery from capsize. The videos I’ve seen indicate little water stays in after a boat is righted. And those side tanks are in the design. You don’t have to add them. Anyway that’s my thinking. I will be very interested in what design you choose for the winter. And good luck with expending the channel following.
I love the fact that different boats are beautiful to different people! Personally, I think it’s ugly as sin, but I’m not the one sailing it, which you do really well. I think you would excel in whatever design you had chosen. After seeing guys unable to get back in their swamped goats after capsize recovery practice I sure wouldn’t be comfortable in one.
Hey buddy! I'm glad I can always count on your honest and straight forward feedback! Keep it up! 😉 I never had problems with getting in the GIS but then again I never had a standard GIS to start with. I do feel VERY comfortable sailing my GIS in any weather atm.
Fantastic, Teo! Have you ever considered self-bailers like racing dinghies use (or used to use)? They're simple to install, work really well -- even better when you get up speed again -- and are both simple and cheap (although the tope of range is more), as well as shifting a great deal of water quite quickly. I love your build and your modifications. Personally I'd like to be able to sleep in the boat under a boom tent, but that's just me 🙂
Another great video. There aren’t enough videos on the topic of boat selection, although it is a personal choice. I had a lot of the same considerations, but being a novice I substituted fast for forgiving and built a passagemaker. Mine is car topable and was a very accessible build, but as my sailing skill improves I am moving more towards fast from forgiving. Perhaps a GIS will be my second boat?
The GIS is a pocket rocket! without the side tanks is hard to self rescue in rough weather but ok in calmer conditions...just a lot of water to bail out!
Caro Teo, para esgotar a água depois de um capsize há uma solução muito interessante que passa por instalar no fundo uma bueira de mola, como as que se vêem nos Vaurien. Desde que o barco esteja em movimento (e esta é a condição essencial para o funcionamento da bueira a que me refiro) ela esgota toda a água do interior do barco. Se quiser posso enviar-lhe uma foto. De resto parabéns pelo excelente trabalho, tanto de construção naval como de vídeo.
Ora viva! esse tipo de bueiras, na minha experiencia acaba sempre por deixar entrar água ao fim de algun tempo, talvez tenha tido algum azar com elas... De qualquer forma nunca virei o barco acidentalmente por isso vou continuar a tentar ficar sequinho! 😁
Hi, I'm not sure....did I reef the sail in this video? 😅 If you're referring to when I lower sail, to me that is unnecessary, the less I mess with the lines and sail to lower the mast the less chances of getting tangles when setting it back up again. Also folding the sail neatly will brake the sail always on the same spots. But you can spend as much time as you want making it look neat, you can get bungee loops around the sail, before lowering the lazy jacks or fold the sail afterwards.
Theo, please dont feel obliged to reply to all of the comments we armchair sailors make about your channel: we are happy to chat amogst ourselves whilst you get on with your full live, and provide top tier entertainment for us, tgank you. Back to commenting: i put curved sude tanks into my Frostply for the and reason you did with the GIS. She was 30 kg heavier but i wasn't going to win any racing trophies anyway, but i could capsize her and not have water gunwale to gunwale. Plus the curved side tanks - think International 420 - were an absolute joy to lean back against. Next season intend to sail an OK dinghy, which has an even smaller cockpit to bail😊
@TheBoatRambler the ok does have self bailers. I had them in my Frostply too, but getting the boat up to a speed where the bailers worked was difficult if the boat had water up to the gunwales.
Hi Cristopher. The GIS was designed to sail with a crew of two. I solo it 90% of the times. I don't use ballast, I reduce sail acording to wind conditions. at 10kt I need one reef on, at 15 to 20 I set the second reef. I have sailed her in 30 kts gusts with the two reefs and ....it was interesting! 😁 ruclips.net/video/4_CbrWSJb68/видео.html
I can tell you that the other one has two main advantages right away: >no water to bailout after capsize >free space on the floor to put a mattress and sleep. And I know it can reach 14kn too!! 😁
Hey Teo, totally unrelated, we have the FIFA Womens World Cup starting in New Zealand next week, thinking of you, I have bought tickets to Portugal vs Netherlands... I'll cheer for Portugal...
Hi, I would like to start and build a sail dinghy. I am located in the Med. Do you think that this dinghy is also good for the sea? what is the weight of it? Can I get the plan and all the information from your videos? Thanks a lot for your feedback
I think the heavy chop in the estuary/rivers is worse than on the sea, unless there is a storm ofc. You can find all the info for that boat including materials list on Storerboatplans and on the Goat Island Skiff FB group.
Depends... if you are capable of turning the boat on its side and take it through the door that way than probably 80cm should be enough. If it needs to go past the door leveled than you need 170cm.
Teo, este video este muito bom. Really....a superb video. Well done! I was wondering what the Goat cost you to build in 2019? I am seriously considering the Argie 15 designed by Dudley Dix. I am looking for the same things that led you to decide on the Goat but I suspect the Argie might be a little easier and cheaper to build. And I am seriously thinking of building a cambered junk rig for it..... Also...its a nod to my old home country of South Africa. Great video mais uma bom barco!
Hi Geoff! I don't know which Argie you are talking about but the Argie 15 doesn't look simpler at all to build, and very likely not cheaper! But it's just an opinion. As for the cost, in 2019 my GIS cost me around 2000€ including sail but I have added to the bill with mods and such. Birch plywood has doubled in price since, and all materials are at least 40% more expensive except Resin which didn't seam to increase much.
Try building a junk rig onto your next dinghy. They're easy to reef due to the weight of the battens and the lazy jacks. They're rare, but gaining popularity in england. There is a book titled "Practical Junk Rig" by H.G. Hasler and J.K. McLeod which provides many if not all the details needed.
Some of the GIS owners use two 20 liter jerrycans either side of the centercase as ballast. A steel daggerboard would probably need a design change. If you sail the GIS with a reef on it behaves much better and with two reefs you can sail really strong winds easily.
Outstanding production, video and yacht. Your speed has to be a direct link to the beautiful botom job you put on that vessel. Could you relay the steps to that work? Thanks.
Thank you! You can find all the build videos on my channel. The first time I painted it : ruclips.net/video/Y8dpRW9W5f0/видео.html The second season maintenance : ruclips.net/video/d7QZAq3MJ2k/видео.html
I've been your fan basically since the first movie, when you started building GIS. However, I have some remarks about your sailing, and above all about your ballasting technique. Of course, these are theoretical remarks, I've never sailed on such a skiff, but I got the impression that you ballast inefficiently. If you lengthened the weight straps, you could hook in with both legs and "go" more over the side of the boat, which would give more ballasting weight, see how it's done on Finns. Of course, you'd probably have to move the ballast "sponge" back, and I don't know how that affects the sailability of the boat. Generally, as I said, I'm your fan and if I'm in Portugal, I'll definitely try to visit you. Well, I'm waiting for info about your cruiser ;) Greetings from Belgium
Hi Petrus! I did have the straps adjusted differently at the beginning if you see on the launch video (week30) you'll notice I'm hiking further out. After a while, I have noticed that I do need to get its bow down so it stays better balanced and the chop is less of a problem. To do so I have to move further forward on the boat. Also the way I sail it is more as if I'm seating on the gunwale and less of a hike...im 49 years young, can't hike for too long anymore!! Do tell me if you come over! Cheers Teo
@@TheBoatRambler if everything goes well (the most important word IF) then I will definitely take part in the regatta from Sagres to Martinique in 2025 as part of the "Setka Atlantic Challenge". This is the plan for the next two years - build a boat, test it and sail - the last regatta feat ;) then only recreational sailing. Will it work? I hope so, but there are a lot of variables. Piotr
Because of your videos I bought the plans and even bought the sail (before prices went up). When the time is right I'll build her. But I have been wondering about foam core for most of the boat to help offset weight gains from mods since I too would make most of your mods. What do you think? Which parts would you make with ply and which parts would you make with divinycell?
I did smile when you aid you had never capsized your goat island skiff... I know it was only testing but.... Where abouts in the UK were you, for how long, and why? I am curious. Also was it always your intention to return to Portugal?
Hi Ben! I'm gonna jinx if I keep talking about it...😅 I lived in the UK for 10 years, In Gloucester and then In Hampshire. Went there with my (ex)wife, I guess as an adventure for a couple of years but then our son was born short after and we ended up staying a bit longer! And yes I always wanted to return to Portugal...Love the UK, but the weather would kill me eventually! 🥶
Love your channel Teo. I boat that has really sparked my interest and may be a little unconventional for you. W17 trimaran. I would like to build one but cant find any real build videos. You could be my guide. Give it a look. I think you will be intrigued.
Hi Joel! That is a awesome boat but complex project. To build it you will need detailed plans and the designer should include all the required details of the build on the project too. Have you tried to find a W17 owner's/builders group that you can join?
Teo the extra weight might be an advantage , at least in sailing terms, I concede it's a disadvantage on the ramp and the car top, but I have come across boats in the past that sail better with extra ballast aboard, the only way you can test this is to put your boat up against boats built to spec over a period of time in various conditions and discover the pros and cons. Now this new dinghy , will it be racing or general purpose. what propulsion will it have?
Hi David! The extra weight is definitely an advantage when placed in the right spot. As is, I can feel some difference with full load or empty lockers, specially on how easy she will start planning. I sailed her side by side with Cabra Cega (a light GIS) without the camping gear aboard, and couldn't tell any difference between boats. As for the new dinghy.. DEFINITELY a sailing dinghy! main porpuse is to get to different waters on the roof rack! 12ft, unsinkable, dry after capsize, maybe 50kg? Carries 3 or 4 ppl at a pinch, easiest build ever, very stable, balanced lug sail, I can sleep on the cockpit floor.....it only loses to the GIS in size, freeboard and looks! 😁
Same problem an goal here, 1 have both plans. I first will build the Oz Goose for potability, then a few seasons later the GIS... Follow your Chanel and this video made my mind.
@@garygower702 Take my advice build them side by side, costs will continue to climb amount of extra effort required less than effort required for two separate builds.
@@TheBoatRambler Hi Teo! I have been binge-watching your videos. I am in love with this boat design and am heavily considering building it in a few months time. But I would really like to be able to car top my boat and launch it by hand fast. That is literally the only reason I am hesitating on this boat. I am suuuupppeerr curious to know what the new dinghy is that you will be building. It might be the perfect one for me by the sound of it. If it is anything of interest, I live in Mozambique and we have some beautiful kitesurfing and sailing conditions here. Look forward to the new build! Any chance you will tell us what boat you are going to build next? wink wink nudge nudge XD
I want to have a safe boat that I can use on some choppy waters for some island exploring and fishing with 1 or 2 people in addition to myself. Wonder if your new build will fit that kind of description... Any idea how fast she might sail?
There is only one other goat around around here and I cant see much difference in speed tbh. Cabra Cega will plane maybe a bit sooner but I think the sail adjustments and definitely the tack each GIS is sailing (they're rigged differently) on makes more difference.
if it can go into true planing, then it is Not "too heavy"..... where 11 knots, and beyond, is certainly true planing on that LWL. sometimes a little extra weight can be chalked up as a bonus, for comfort and a little extra stiffness, and that it will exceed 11 knots says you are good with it.
@@TheBoatRambler yes, of course.....and then planing with passengers is highly unlikely i imagine....so it could be lighter, but it's still trade offs... i probably would have done it in Divinycell core, on a wooden form, and laid up on that...but that would be even more expensive than marine grade ply..
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Thank you for your support! 😉
Well done sir! The world needs more resourceful builders like yourself.
Thank you!
and i also agree the positive buoyancy was the most overall beneficial of your mods.
the sequence showing you sailing the "tank modified" boat with the rail virtually under water was something I've never seen before. The sight of the helms-person being able to control the boat in these conditions shows the boat & the skipper can do it!
Hi,
These tanks were a game changer and have saved my butt a few times! 😅
After seeing this I feel lucky I did not start building another desing. This is IT, the perfect boat for me!
That modification is brilliant. Perfect open cruising skiff.
The tank modification is truly brilliant. It makes me want to build one even more!
I spent ten weeks exploring Portugal in my motorhome in 2005. I loved the country and the people. I carried a kayak on the roof, so I managed to get on the water. The GIS looks great!
Thanks! 😉
Sailing with family. Bonding with daughter. Camping on shore. So good.
It really is! 😁
After those modifications, I would call that boat a dinghy cruiser. You have made it more rigid and much safer. I am trying to think how you might make a boom-tent for her and carry a few wooden slats to go athwart the side tanks so that you have a flat place to sleep in the boat, under a boom-tent. That is a great boat.... forget the extra weight. She is a much more versatile boat. You have my envy.
Hi Ritchie!
All that has crossed my mind, and I will get to it...eventually! 😅
Great boat and some great sailing skills. Love it!
I really like the way the entire package came together. The tanks made a huge difference and I may borrow the idea. Thank you for sharing your journey!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just watched 20 of you videos in the last 2 days! And sure ill watch way more once i get maybe building one. Thinking the GIS above the Oz goose just for the nice lines but both looks fun indeed! Glad i found your vids looking for inspas on sailing skiffs
Thanks a lot for your support! appreciated. 😁
I bought the plans. A small boat one person can row/sail put a small outboard and fish. Goes faster than hull speed because it planes. I can't wait to build one. Good channel 👍
Thanks for watching and good luck with the build!
Hi Teo,
Let me present my GIS evaluation. I built it in 2016 according to (almost) the design. Almost, because from domestic, so heavier but much cheaper materials. After two seasons I added side seats (not tanks) in the cockpit - I'm a dozen (?) years older and my knees (my girlfriend's too) are not very functional. Besides, we sail only during the day and take reefs quickly. Besides, I agree with everything - GIS is light, simple and cheap to build,she sails fast even with three adults and a dog, and works well on the waves. I'm still satisfied!
Regards 😀
Thanks for your feedback Rob!
Dudley Dix's Argie 15 is my dream row/sail camping boat. The only tick box it lacks is a high free board, but I've seen a couple builds where they add extra height, but it's a trade off for rowing comfort.
I also keep coming back to the GIS plans for the their simplicity
Some day I hope to build one, but until then I live vicariously through your adventures, thank you for sharing all these years!
The Argie 15 was at some point on my short list but the complexity of construction compared to the GIS ....
Yes I built an Argie 15 with 100mm of extra freeboard. The only reason I don't still have it is that I wanted a small pocket cruiser with sleepable cabin.
Argie wasn't anywhere close to that fast though! It had 1-2 feet wider beam.
@@TheBoatRambler And in my opinion way less beautiful
Hola, gracias por subiir estos videos, he disfrutado muchísimo, es usted una persona muy afortunada por esa sabiduría y laboriosidad, una pena no se transmitan esos conocimientos en los colegios
Teo to empty the boat fast I cut the top off of a 25lt plastic motor oil container. The flat lip scoops water fast! And I also keep the anchor and rode in there, scratch free!
Thanks!
I'll give it a go if I find one of those floating about! 😁
What a cliff hanger! Looking forward to finding out which design … cheers and we’ll done all round ⛵️👍
Thanks David!
Please, don't keep us hanging too much!! Especially for the ones like me, that have the GIS on the short list, but haven't pull the trigger yet.
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Teo--I will be starting my GIS build this year. Thank you for all the inspiring videos and great information!
Have fun while at it! 😉
Terrific video. Thanks for an excellent, clear, well demonstrated presentation of what you love in your GIS.
Thank you kindly Anastasia!
Amazing looking boat, you have done a fantastic job!
Thank you Richard
Big thumbs up, I really enjoyed watching your videos and I think I’m going to try building a Goat Island skiff. Thanks for posting this!
If the GIS ticks all the boxes for you...Go for it!! 😉
Great Video Teo, I agree, I love my GIS too.
Thanks m8! 😉
Definitely beautiful handwork you have done on it my friend
Thanks Mike! 😉
You hit 16 knots. That's some going in a general purpose dinghy. Love your mods as well. Great channel. Really enjoy your videos.
Thanks Barry! 😉
I'm sure I have sailed her faster but that's the only recorded evidence of speed that I have.
Great video! Great skiff! The tiny but mighty Mirror dinghy also has the side tanks; great safety feature! Well done fitting them. The question is not to capzise or not but when ;) better to be as, you are, prepared. Cheers from Sweden
Hi,
Well I have managed to never unintentionally capsize my GIS...so far! 😅😅
@@TheBoatRambler ya ..I just wonder about the capsize factor with this boat.
The centre of gravity is too high up for me.
This was an excellent video! I knew about CLC for years and saw your build over a year ago i think and constantly think about what i would like. I only just started taking sailing lessons a week ago, so I don't know much. And I'll probably buy something first before i build. But this vid is very informative. Thank you very much!
Congratz on starting sailing! 💪💪
Congratulations Teo on your 10,000 subscribers awesome video she is simple, versatile and lots of fun.
Thanks so much!
I was in love with a Paradox boat design for a while, just because its so unique, and theres many others, Vivier, Welshford, but the Goat seems just sensible for a diy boat builder. Great video!
The goat's building method is very simple! 😉
What a great summary! Nice journey! Keep going!
Thank you! Will do!
Congratulacion!!! Excellent 👌
Thank you! 😃
I also read Classic Boat and Wooden Boat, the best magazines about thematic. Coimbra do choupal ainda é capital, do nosso Portugal ainda !!
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Continuação de bom trabalho , já aprendi mais um bocado de barcos
Obrigado Pedro!
What a great video, congrats!
Thanks so much!
Beautiful boat and well thought out improvements!
Thank you very much Gary.
Great video. Lovely boat.
Many thanks!
Great Job !!!
thanks!
Very interesting info, especially regarding the side tanks. I have not yet tried a capsize recovery with my boat. Must try this summer and see how things go.
Capsize practice is very important. Start with a calm day and repeat with increasing winds and sea. Try to have someone close to you if possible.
Wonderful 👍
Many thanks
Thank you for your insightful and generous presentation. Have you considered the B&B Core Sound 15?
The hull looks really good, but the rig looks a bit more complicated than I would like. I will go back to balanced lug sail, that way I can use all that I have learned from sailing the GIS.
I really enjoy your channel. Thanks a lot and congrats.
Thanks you.
My dream boat to build is the lighthouse tender peapod by CLC (14ft sailer/rower), which I believe checks all the same boxes. And it's beautiful to boot.
It might not be quite as fast and exciting to sail as a Goat, but seeing that I intend to sail this thing with a couple of smaller kids aboard, that might actually be a feature, not a bug 😅
I think the boat I want to build would be a much better school boat and safer than the Peapod. Although the Peapod is on a different league when it comes to beauty indeed! 😉
So nice! Love your build and LIFE! New sub.
Awesome! Thank you!
I've got a Welsford SNS that is a ton of fun but you sure make me want a Goat : )
All boats can be a lot of fun indeed, some just tick more boxes! But in the end the best one is the one you sail! 😁
Love your channel. I am building a Matt Layden Paradox right now (first boat build for me) I have enjoyed it so far and think I can turn out a GIS in the near future also.
Great to hear that! building a boat is always a great experience! 💪
Its great that you found the boat that suits you. Some observations: The GIS is a 'sporty' boat (not really designed as a cruising boat, as you say) and my guess is that you are 80kg or more? It's also clear that you have good experience in handling and probably racing, small challenging dinghies in challenging conditions. So, yes, for you, its great but for anyone lighter and/ or with less dinghy experience, she would be a hard mistress.
You are absolutely right that any cruising dinghy, who is likely to be sailing without a safety boat, should be able to self rescue and your additional tanks have achieved that. Def more important than lazy-jacks, nice though they are!
IMO 'car top-able' is an elusive concept for the solo sailor. It can be done of course but...why not just use a combie trailer? Believe me, when you put on some years, you will wonder why car topping a proper boat (not a surfboard or canoe) ever looked like a good idea!
Plus.. an idea that might work on your GIS is to have drain holes (or better, slots) one either side of the transom at tank level. When the lee rail goes under and you scoop in water on top of the thwart, it can run to the back and drain out. The famous Mirror Dinghy has these and they work. Also observing your video, some of the water scooped onto the tank runs forward to your crew space. Maybe fit some knees there to block the flow forward?
Take a look at Ross Lillistone's boats on Duckworks, 'Phoenix 3' or the simpler 'First Mate' ? Maybe 'Flint' if you think rowing is fun!
Hi. Thanks for your feedback!
I'm actually a small dude, 1.70m, 72kg. I have sailed from Optis to 5 ton traditional boats but never long enough on the same boat/class to became very good on any of them!
The GIS can be a handful with a full sail but put one or even two reefs on and you can face a storm! And still go faster than most!!
The drain holes on the transom have been om my mind for a while now, maybe next time I bring Forager home for maintenance I'll make a few mods. 😉 The knees to prevent water going forward would be a nice addition if I can make them removable.
Car topping shouldn't be hard if one can come up with a contraption so that strength isn't part of the equation.🤞
I have been a fan of RL Flint's (and Fleet as a fishing skiff) for a while now. The other two you mentioned will have a lot of water in them after capsize!
Cheers,
Teo
Thx for share ur boat with us..
Thanks so much for your videos on boat building- I love them. I am wanting a project for the winter so I’ve also decided to build a boat -Yes you guessed it. it -a goat island skiff!😊 thanks to you as as the characteristics that you mark as important are the same for me. I have built a sailing boat before back when I was living in the UK. I’m living in Portugal now also! I would love to ask you a few more questions about your build and particularly materials - What plywood did you use and where did you source it from? I would love to talk further if you have time . Obrigado Jack
Hey Jack!
Congratz on the decision!
Contact me on TheBoatRambler@gmail.com for more details. 😉
Great job! Thank you!!
Thank you too!
Hi, question for you: what would you think if the GIS was 20% larger in every direction? So 183cm wide instead of 152cm, and 568cm long instead of 473cm.
There is a slightly bigger GIS built by Arwen Marine I believe, but only 5m.
ruclips.net/video/ArHkCwYHv1Q/видео.html
I think that's a question for the designer. I'm not qualified to know if the building method would work or not.
Put that question to the designer himself in the GIS FB group linked below.
Great videos,thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Great vid Teo, I’ve just finish the bulkheads doing the centreboard case, I’m going to cartop but I still think I’ll build her as you did with the centre seat & tanks. I’ve used lightweight ply & frames so fingers crossed. Thanks mate
Hi Ken!
You will need another person to help you or you need some contraption to get the GIS up there! but other ppl do it regularly. 😉
@@TheBoatRambler I’ve worked it out from a RUclips video, I have a utility with carry bars so hopefully it’ll work. Cheers
@@kens2114 Can you share the link to how to get a dinghy the size of the GIS up on roof racks? Thanks!
@@colvingazelle I just searched on RUclips, there’s a number of them. I will load from the back not the side. I haven’t saved any specific videos. I’m early in the build so i will do some detailed research as I get closer. It looks pretty straight forward & luckily I have a long Ute with racks already which simplifies things.
Hi Teo, I love your channel and your thorough GIS build videos are great. I just purchased plans to build my own. I was hoping you might provide some specifics on your rail cushions: What are they made of/Where did you source them?
Hi John,
all the details you need regarding my hiking pads. ruclips.net/video/TU64bZnTsxQ/видео.html 😉
Thank you for the amazing channel! You mentioned that the Goat Island Skiff is not stable enough for a cruise boat. Which boat would you advise to build as a cruise boat for sailing with family?
The GIS is stable enough for a cruising dinghy, lots of people use it that way. It's just a nervous skiff with all the sail up. You can always reef it and it will still be faster than most and delivers a much more relaxed sailing session. As for a family cruising skiff...can't say, all depends what you expect from it!
Try the John Welsford Houdini. It's the one l choose over the Goat Island Skiff. I thought along the same lines as you but this had things I preferred, always a compromise. Cheers
Houdini is a beautiful boat but... too beamy and heavy off the bat to cartop so it didn't make to the final 3 on my list!
Also I don't think it will match the GIS for speed.
I do LOVE the "open plan" cockpit and self draining floor!!
Great videos.. Where do you sail. looks fun and safe place to explore..
Hi,
I sail mostly the Tagus river and estuary near Lisbon.
Thanks for all great videos. We sail luggers on the Blackwater Estuary and creeks. A little this time of year..
Well done Teo!
Thanks Michael!
Awesome! Congratulations for the channel.
Thank you so much Artur!
Como vão os planos? 😉
En Argentina hay un boat 3,50mts. Divisible 67kg. Muy facil llecar en twcho auto.
You made me think about skiffs.
good! 😁
nice boat, I m interesteded in the padded seat you have on the rails. Something I could use on my boat. Did you buy or make them? In case you made them how? or i you bought them. what are they celled? Thanks.
I made them, have a look here ruclips.net/video/TU64bZnTsxQ/видео.html
@@TheBoatRambler thanks, great info. I can probably make/use a similar thing for my boat.
I see that originally you did not have the side benches. At what point did you add them? Was it done to make self rescue possible?
Never mind, I came across where you specifically address this. Thank you.
Try a portable bilge pump. I put a small lead acid battery in a waterproof box and wired it to a little bilge pump, which unloads water at 1 litre per second - quicker than baling and a lot more fun! About 150 Australian dollars. Good luck, I enjoy your videos.
A lot of the guys use them but I already carry so much on my boat! It's more Kgs on my back going up the ramp! And since I'm yet to capsize her unintentionally....I'll just keep sailing with the little water that's left in the boat now! 😅
You should consider putting in an automatic Elvstrom self bailer. We always used them in our dinghies. Placed in the deepest spot of the boat, the will keep the boat dry when sailing.
Yeah Teo I think you’ve done a wonderful promo job for that design and it truly makes me want to build one. However I’m going to be perfectly transparent mate. I’ve promised my step daughter to build one Oz goose to teach her to sail.
Do I think it ticks more boxes than the GIS. Yes, for me, wanting to have an easy to build platform for teaching kids to sail. But certainly not the style box. But easy to build lightweight and cheap plus plenty of storage capacity are there. As is the recovery from capsize.
The videos I’ve seen indicate little water stays in after a boat is righted. And those side tanks are in the design. You don’t have to add them.
Anyway that’s my thinking.
I will be very interested in what design you choose for the winter.
And good luck with expending the channel following.
spot on!! 🤫😶
I love the fact that different boats are beautiful to different people! Personally, I think it’s ugly as sin, but I’m not the one sailing it, which you do really well. I think you would excel in whatever design you had chosen. After seeing guys unable to get back in their swamped goats after capsize recovery practice I sure wouldn’t be comfortable in one.
Hey buddy!
I'm glad I can always count on your honest and straight forward feedback! Keep it up! 😉
I never had problems with getting in the GIS but then again I never had a standard GIS to start with.
I do feel VERY comfortable sailing my GIS in any weather atm.
@@TheBoatRambler It’s your boat, and you like it, that’s all that matters!
Fantastic, Teo! Have you ever considered self-bailers like racing dinghies use (or used to use)? They're simple to install, work really well -- even better when you get up speed again -- and are both simple and cheap (although the tope of range is more), as well as shifting a great deal of water quite quickly. I love your build and your modifications. Personally I'd like to be able to sleep in the boat under a boom tent, but that's just me 🙂
Hi Ray!
The auto-bailers are a source of problems and will always start to leak eventually.
As for the boat tent I might do something about it soon! 😉
I like it
Another great video. There aren’t enough videos on the topic of boat selection, although it is a personal choice. I had a lot of the same considerations, but being a novice I substituted fast for forgiving and built a passagemaker. Mine is car topable and was a very accessible build, but as my sailing skill improves I am moving more towards fast from forgiving. Perhaps a GIS will be my second boat?
The GIS is a pocket rocket! without the side tanks is hard to self rescue in rough weather but ok in calmer conditions...just a lot of water to bail out!
Caro Teo, para esgotar a água depois de um capsize há uma solução muito interessante que passa por instalar no fundo uma bueira de mola, como as que se vêem nos Vaurien. Desde que o barco esteja em movimento (e esta é a condição essencial para o funcionamento da bueira a que me refiro) ela esgota toda a água do interior do barco. Se quiser posso enviar-lhe uma foto. De resto parabéns pelo excelente trabalho, tanto de construção naval como de vídeo.
Ora viva!
esse tipo de bueiras, na minha experiencia acaba sempre por deixar entrar água ao fim de algun tempo, talvez tenha tido algum azar com elas... De qualquer forma nunca virei o barco acidentalmente por isso vou continuar a tentar ficar sequinho! 😁
Excellent video! Do you have an approximate build cost?
Hi Jeff,
in 2020, ready to sail I believe it was around €2500 (including the sail)
@@TheBoatRamblerThank you!
I know you were trying to demonstrate how fast you can do the mast and rigging the sail. But isn't there a neater way of reefing the sail?
Hi, I'm not sure....did I reef the sail in this video? 😅
If you're referring to when I lower sail, to me that is unnecessary, the less I mess with the lines and sail to lower the mast the less chances of getting tangles when setting it back up again. Also folding the sail neatly will brake the sail always on the same spots.
But you can spend as much time as you want making it look neat, you can get bungee loops around the sail, before lowering the lazy jacks or fold the sail afterwards.
I’ve considered Michael’s Kombi, so easy to cartop, but I wish it had quite a bit more flotation.
Theo, please dont feel obliged to reply to all of the comments we armchair sailors make about your channel: we are happy to chat amogst ourselves whilst you get on with your full live, and provide top tier entertainment for us, tgank you. Back to commenting: i put curved sude tanks into my Frostply for the and reason you did with the GIS. She was 30 kg heavier but i wasn't going to win any racing trophies anyway, but i could capsize her and not have water gunwale to gunwale. Plus the curved side tanks - think International 420 - were an absolute joy to lean back against. Next season intend to sail an OK dinghy, which has an even smaller cockpit to bail😊
Hi Sean!
Doesn't the OK dinghy have self-bailers like the Laser? No water for you to bail then!! 😁
@TheBoatRambler the ok does have self bailers. I had them in my Frostply too, but getting the boat up to a speed where the bailers worked was difficult if the boat had water up to the gunwales.
How does she handle a 15-20 knot wind? Do you use weights or ballast? Thx
Hi Cristopher.
The GIS was designed to sail with a crew of two. I solo it 90% of the times. I don't use ballast, I reduce sail acording to wind conditions.
at 10kt I need one reef on, at 15 to 20 I set the second reef. I have sailed her in 30 kts gusts with the two reefs and ....it was interesting! 😁 ruclips.net/video/4_CbrWSJb68/видео.html
Any thoughts on the Oryx from Wavedancer Yacht designs? Seems like a pretty nice one. This is one I am looking at vs the other design...
I can tell you that the other one has two main advantages right away:
>no water to bailout after capsize
>free space on the floor to put a mattress and sleep.
And I know it can reach 14kn too!! 😁
@@TheBoatRambler Well seems like I'll be following your videos to help me build that one hehe. 😉 14 knots seems to be my cup of tea too.
Hey Teo, totally unrelated, we have the FIFA Womens World Cup starting in New Zealand next week, thinking of you, I have bought tickets to Portugal vs Netherlands... I'll cheer for Portugal...
💪
Hi, I would like to start and build a sail dinghy. I am located in the Med. Do you think that this dinghy is also good for the sea? what is the weight of it? Can I get the plan and all the information from your videos? Thanks a lot for your feedback
I think the heavy chop in the estuary/rivers is worse than on the sea, unless there is a storm ofc.
You can find all the info for that boat including materials list on Storerboatplans and on the Goat Island Skiff FB group.
I want to build this sailboat, but I have a question for you. How wide should the workshop door be?
Depends... if you are capable of turning the boat on its side and take it through the door that way than probably 80cm should be enough. If it needs to go past the door leveled than you need 170cm.
@@TheBoatRambler thx a lot.
Where did you buy the plans for the boat?
From Storerboatplans 😉
Great vid thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Teo, este video este muito bom. Really....a superb video. Well done! I was wondering what the Goat cost you to build in 2019? I am seriously considering the Argie 15 designed by Dudley Dix. I am looking for the same things that led you to decide on the Goat but I suspect the Argie might be a little easier and cheaper to build. And I am seriously thinking of building a cambered junk rig for it..... Also...its a nod to my old home country of South Africa.
Great video mais uma bom barco!
Hi Geoff!
I don't know which Argie you are talking about but the Argie 15 doesn't look simpler at all to build, and very likely not cheaper! But it's just an opinion.
As for the cost, in 2019 my GIS cost me around 2000€ including sail but I have added to the bill with mods and such.
Birch plywood has doubled in price since, and all materials are at least 40% more expensive except Resin which didn't seam to increase much.
Perfect
Are you still happy you used the birch ply instead of marine? Love the channel!!!
Hi,
So far I see no problems with the build regarding the birch ply. if I had more €€€ I would use marine ply, less weigh is not a bad thing. 😁
Try building a junk rig onto your next dinghy. They're easy to reef due to the weight of the battens and the lazy jacks. They're rare, but gaining popularity in england. There is a book titled "Practical Junk Rig" by H.G. Hasler and J.K. McLeod which provides many if not all the details needed.
A bit to much adrenalin for me, tbh.
Can you built it with a steel centerboard instead of a dagger board to improve ballast and with self bailers?
Some of the GIS owners use two 20 liter jerrycans either side of the centercase as ballast.
A steel daggerboard would probably need a design change.
If you sail the GIS with a reef on it behaves much better and with two reefs you can sail really strong winds easily.
How dose it handle in some chop ?
it handles it no problem. Once heeled and if you sit towards the middle to keep the bow in the water it's quite good!
Is there a centreboard fitted?
Hi,
The centerboard/dagger board goes in just like a Laser's daggerboard!
Outstanding production, video and yacht. Your speed has to be a direct link to the beautiful botom job you put on that vessel. Could you relay the steps to that work? Thanks.
Thank you!
You can find all the build videos on my channel.
The first time I painted it : ruclips.net/video/Y8dpRW9W5f0/видео.html
The second season maintenance : ruclips.net/video/d7QZAq3MJ2k/видео.html
I've been your fan basically since the first movie, when you started building GIS.
However, I have some remarks about your sailing, and above all about your ballasting technique. Of course, these are theoretical remarks, I've never sailed on such a skiff, but I got the impression that you ballast inefficiently. If you lengthened the weight straps, you could hook in with both legs and "go" more over the side of the boat, which would give more ballasting weight, see how it's done on Finns. Of course, you'd probably have to move the ballast "sponge" back, and I don't know how that affects the sailability of the boat.
Generally, as I said, I'm your fan and if I'm in Portugal, I'll definitely try to visit you.
Well, I'm waiting for info about your cruiser ;)
Greetings from Belgium
Hi Petrus!
I did have the straps adjusted differently at the beginning if you see on the launch video (week30) you'll notice I'm hiking further out.
After a while, I have noticed that I do need to get its bow down so it stays better balanced and the chop is less of a problem. To do so I have to move further forward on the boat.
Also the way I sail it is more as if I'm seating on the gunwale and less of a hike...im 49 years young, can't hike for too long anymore!!
Do tell me if you come over!
Cheers
Teo
@@TheBoatRambler if everything goes well (the most important word IF) then I will definitely take part in the regatta from Sagres to Martinique in 2025 as part of the "Setka Atlantic Challenge". This is the plan for the next two years - build a boat, test it and sail - the last regatta feat ;) then only recreational sailing.
Will it work? I hope so, but there are a lot of variables.
Piotr
Because of your videos I bought the plans and even bought the sail (before prices went up). When the time is right I'll build her. But I have been wondering about foam core for most of the boat to help offset weight gains from mods since I too would make most of your mods. What do you think? Which parts would you make with ply and which parts would you make with divinycell?
Thinking along the same lines... even considering cored composites for the hull as well.
I did smile when you aid you had never capsized your goat island skiff... I know it was only testing but....
Where abouts in the UK were you, for how long, and why? I am curious. Also was it always your intention to return to Portugal?
Hi Ben!
I'm gonna jinx if I keep talking about it...😅
I lived in the UK for 10 years, In Gloucester and then In Hampshire. Went there with my (ex)wife, I guess as an adventure for a couple of years but then our son was born short after and we ended up staying a bit longer!
And yes I always wanted to return to Portugal...Love the UK, but the weather would kill me eventually! 🥶
@@TheBoatRambler I can see why you might say that....
😁
Love your channel Teo. I boat that has really sparked my interest and may be a little unconventional for you. W17 trimaran. I would like to build one but cant find any real build videos. You could be my guide. Give it a look. I think you will be intrigued.
Hi Joel!
That is a awesome boat but complex project. To build it you will need detailed plans and the designer should include all the required details of the build on the project too. Have you tried to find a W17 owner's/builders group that you can join?
Teo the extra weight might be an advantage , at least in sailing terms, I concede it's a disadvantage on the ramp and the car top, but I have come across boats in the past that sail better with extra ballast aboard, the only way you can test this is to put your boat up against boats built to spec over a period of time in various conditions and discover the pros and cons.
Now this new dinghy , will it be racing or general purpose. what propulsion will it have?
Hi David!
The extra weight is definitely an advantage when placed in the right spot. As is, I can feel some difference with full load or empty lockers, specially on how easy she will start planning.
I sailed her side by side with Cabra Cega (a light GIS) without the camping gear aboard, and couldn't tell any difference between boats.
As for the new dinghy.. DEFINITELY a sailing dinghy! main porpuse is to get to different waters on the roof rack! 12ft, unsinkable, dry after capsize, maybe 50kg? Carries 3 or 4 ppl at a pinch, easiest build ever, very stable, balanced lug sail, I can sleep on the cockpit floor.....it only loses to the GIS in size, freeboard and looks! 😁
Same problem an goal here, 1 have both plans. I first will build the Oz Goose for potability, then a few seasons later the GIS...
Follow your Chanel and this video made my mind.
@@garygower702 Take my advice build them side by side, costs will continue to climb amount of extra effort required less than effort required for two separate builds.
@@TheBoatRambler Hi Teo! I have been binge-watching your videos. I am in love with this boat design and am heavily considering building it in a few months time. But I would really like to be able to car top my boat and launch it by hand fast. That is literally the only reason I am hesitating on this boat. I am suuuupppeerr curious to know what the new dinghy is that you will be building. It might be the perfect one for me by the sound of it. If it is anything of interest, I live in Mozambique and we have some beautiful kitesurfing and sailing conditions here. Look forward to the new build! Any chance you will tell us what boat you are going to build next? wink wink nudge nudge XD
I want to have a safe boat that I can use on some choppy waters for some island exploring and fishing with 1 or 2 people in addition to myself. Wonder if your new build will fit that kind of description... Any idea how fast she might sail?
Teo, do you still race your GIS? And if so, do you keep up with the other manufacturer ed boats in the class?
There is only one other goat around around here and I cant see much difference in speed tbh. Cabra Cega will plane maybe a bit sooner but I think the sail adjustments and definitely the tack each GIS is sailing (they're rigged differently) on makes more difference.
if it can go into true planing, then it is Not "too heavy"..... where 11 knots, and beyond, is certainly true planing on that LWL.
sometimes a little extra weight can be chalked up as a bonus, for comfort and a little extra stiffness, and that it will exceed 11 knots says you are good with it.
I do reach 10kn regularly but I have notice a difference on how fast she planes now from when I first launched her with no mods and no gear aboard.
@@TheBoatRambler yes, of course.....and then planing with passengers is highly unlikely i imagine....so it could be lighter, but it's still trade offs...
i probably would have done it in Divinycell core, on a wooden form, and laid up on that...but that would be even more expensive than marine grade ply..
nice
Thanks
Very nice vido👍
Thanks David!
boat, but quite some special waters where it sails also...