Benchmade 748 Narrows Knife Dirkscussion
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Benchmade 748 Narrows Knife Dirkscussion
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Interesting offering from Benchmade it’d be super cool if when you open the box a fist shot out and punched you in the balls then it would be worth it .
Bwahahaha
It kind of already does, but it doesn’t even wait for you to open the box - it does it upfront at the checkout. Ridiculous.
Sounds like a heck of a folder, if you ask me.
I have been thinking about pricing lately. Obviously a huge difference on customs and production as well as small shops and even no cnc manual shops. Hard as someone on the outside to say how much time it takes to make a complete knife. I have worked for a bunch of machine shops over the years. All have varied processes and time requirements to make similar products. Production shops with many machines should be able to make products more efficiently. But that’s not always true. I think we as the consumers have to approach products like the narrow as what does this give
me that others folder don’t and is it worth the price. For me personally it’s nothing I value but for others it might be the exact knife they have been searching for. Such a deep topic of conversation. Might need to do a video chat about this myself
I agree it’s a deep topic.
Say, maybe we could get you on our podcast/livestream at some point and you me and Alex can dive into it.
@@DirkWerning I would absolutely enjoy that man. Kinda surprised me that you would ask. I have no clue on the tech side and will require some help in order to make it happen though. 😎👊
@@satudave ha it’s easy man. Shoot me an email and we’ll sort out some scheduling and stuff.
That is absolutely crazy. I would have never guessed a price like that. Bonkers.
My exact thought.
I’m glad I found this video late. Went to the link and wanted to apply the discount code and then purchase… it’s sold out. Saved me from spending the money
Its a really cool knife. I have no problem with the price because I won’t be buying one 😂
Touché my friend.
Smart!
I appreciate Benchmade doing new and different things but the price is hard to swallow even for American made. Great video 👍
Sorry, but I love this knife, I got it on day one of the release and it has been my EDC carry since. I have over a dozen Bugout’s including the Gold Class (which cost more) but this knife is next level. The price might be high for some but I haven’t found another full size Ti knife this light, this thin, and this easy to carry everyday in my pocket.
I’ve seen a lot of posts about how other knives are better, cheaper etc and then their examples are thicker, heavier, more expensive, made in China, etc. Or how R&D costs next to nothing because it’s all computerized. If it’s so easy and cheap then why haven’t all the other manufacturers done it. I could be wrong but at least put up any example of a full size knife that is this thin, this light, made of Ti, and American made at this price point, to compare it to. I’m pretty sure one doesn’t exist.
At least give Benchmade some credit for coming out with something new and different. If you don’t like the price then don’t buy it, there are plenty of other knives out there that may fit your needs and budget.
I apologize for my rant, it’s not meant to offend anyone, it’s just my opinion.
No offense taken at all. I LOVE the discussion and you make some great points.
You’re probably right I can’t pull out a knife that’s equal size, thinness, Ti, etc that’s cheaper. You’re right one doesn’t exist. BUT is there a need for something this thin and at this price?
Maybe no one else is doing it because there’s not a need or real desire???
I’m not judging the ‘necessity’ of it per say but the price is HIGH for what you get plain and simple.
But ABSOLUTELY if we don’t like the price don’t buy it and I stand by and agree with that.
People think I’m nuts because I own a five figure knife (well I kind of am) but there is more justification for that knife than there is gif the price of the Narrows…. Again just my opinions and thoughts and I’m just a knucklehead with a camera so what do I REALKY know anyway 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Keep the comments coming I love the discussions. I don’t want everyone to just completely and blindly agree with me.
I really like this knife as well. I also like the stock grivory scales on the Bugout and the Shootout is my favorite knife. The Narrows is for some but not for most.
@@giantfatberg agreed it’s not for most.
This vid is a prime example of “the pot calling the kettle black”! MR. I OWN FOUR AND FIVE FIGURE KNIVES has a problem with the price. Gimme a break.
I love mine as well. Will yall buy the mini! I won’t, a little too small/short for my medium sized hands.
benchmade hasn't lost its minds but benchmade fan boys have
Haha
Thank you - honesty - well done - BM lost there mind
I try to keep it real 🤷🏼♂️
My Stang Bladeworks Pyrenees V3 was 625. A full custom with contoured handles and proper Magnacut at 63+. Benchmade is taking Koenig pricing.
That’s one I should have mentioned. I agree custom vs production at similar price 🙄
Great convo Dirk. I love these topics. While I agree 100% and to your point, have recently bought lesser known customs for sub 1k, I’ll still probably cave and end up with one simply because it’s so different. Lol. Hopefully I won’t but who knows. Great discussion
Haha I feel ya. I almost feel like I should buy it for longterm testing??? Hmm 🤔
And yes I’m here to bring some thought provoking discussion to light also 😉
Mine was dull and had no detent, I could shake the blade out with little effort….sent it back. Cool knife despite the price and flaws. Crazy thin and light.
Yes the detent SUCKS.
Thank you thank you thank you - refreshing the honesty -
Appreciate you. I try to just keep it real.
Love the channel! Found you through Metal Complex
Thanks really appreciate you tagging along.
The narrows is a despicable knife at a despicable price!
This is one of the few Benchmade knives that appeals to me but not at the insane price point.
Totally hear ya.
I'm sure this knife model will also be available as an rugged wilderness EDC !
double the blade stock for double the price
I've gone back and forth on getting one for weeks. Still contemplating 😅
Haha we’ll get ahold of Gil not sure you’ll find a lower price than using my discount.
i'll pick up the ganzo version
I agree, too much for a production folder. Production folders inevitablely have small defects, as this one does. The same care an attention that goes into a custom folder will not be found here.
That’s what I was talking about lol that price is crazy
Indeed
Definitely too expensive, but something about it makes me want it.
Right.
I like it. But can’t afford it yet. We will see what the future brings.
I hear ya.
I can't get over the price either. Thanks man.
Just here to help.
Basically, Benchmade is charging CKF prices, Medford prices, or what have you for an upscale Bugout.... I just have a sneaking suspicion that they feel that we'll get accustomed to it and then they'll be able to vault all of their prices up into this territory. Same thing is true of their recent kitchen knife. "If you charge it they will pay???" 🤔🗡️🤔
Ha yep.
I have one and returning it. Detent too light. Worth $375 tops. Action is spectacular
Yes Detent is too light.
I agree that the price is way too high. If it were around the $330 range I would consider buying one. Thanks for the video as always!!
I don’t think there are any American made titanium knives selling for 300.00. I believe American made titanium knives are at least 400.00$.
I think you have to look to Chinese made knives to get titanium for 300.00$
@@ericmack001 that is NOT true. American Bladeworks Model 2 as I mentioned here and did a full video on is a custom USA maker. Full titanium liner lock with Magnacut and it’s $300.
Agree at the $300 range I would probably keep this one.
@@ericmack001 Most Zt's are around $300
Besides the Narrows Benchmade introduced the Bugout in different colors. The new colored Bugout’s are 200.00$. The Bugout is a very basic knife made of plastic. How is it worth 200.00$ I want the cheapest knife I buy to be made of G 10. G 10 does not show wear. G 10 is an excellent handle material. I think Spyderco offers much better value for your money. I do think that Benchmade is out of touch
Completely agree.
I live 15 minutes from the benchmade factory and used to buy them pretty often. I like a lot of the models they make and enjoy carrying them.. but over the last few years their pricing is out of control. There is no way this knife should be 500 bucks. Crazy.
Yep there has been a shift the last few years.
Inflation. I was hired at my current job at $10/hr 3 years ago. Now, I'm at $18.50 and hour, and the base pay for the job is $17/hr. I live in the Midwest too. Where you live might even be worse. Even ZT's went up by almost $50 each in my local Bass Pro in February.
Does the New Bugout Omega spring have a more stronger/improved spring? Or is it unchanged?
I’m not sure about that. Feels similar to me.
@@DirkWerning Thx 4 the reply.
So there is no “detent” in the traditional sense. It’s that small portion of the torsion spring that applies pressure to the lock bar (the curved portion). I just wish they had different spring tensions to offer customers. I assume someone will manufacture aftermarket ones. Just like I’m sure Skiff will offer other caged bearings. I personally love the feel in the pocket. I don’t plan to send mine back or sell it etc. I knew what I was wanting from it and maybe I’m one of the only people into it but. And they are Teflon or at least look/feel like Teflon cages.
I totally understand the ‘detent’ is not a traditional detent mechanically. But use it as a generic term.
I’m glad you like it. Don’t get me wrong it’s not a bad knife at all.
As for Skiff bearings. That’s an interesting idea. I’m not sure how aftermarket parts will work out. I think we need a little more time to see what desires there are from owners and if there’s enough of a market.
It's interesting but at that price no thanks. The handlle seems so thin that extended cutting sessions might be uncomfortable, does the handle dig in to your palm?
No not really it’s rather comfortable. This is not a knife you would use that hard so I think it would be fine for most general cutting tasks.
I'm not seeing much R&D put into this. Certainly none was put into the pocket clip design with protruding screws.
THANK YOU. I didn’t even harp on the pocket clip screws. I think most people know my feelings about that by now lol.
wonder how easy that thing is to bend, like the iPhone that bent easy a few years ago
Haha that’s a good point.
Benchmade is innovative alright, they have become Master’s of giving you “More for Less”... D’oh! Think I got that backwards...
😂😂😂
Great looking knife. Checked one out the other day and feels and looks great. But, you’re right, way too expensive. I’ve seen it come down to $430 so far and that is still too expensive. They could make more money by selling more of them at a lower price. They won’t sell very many above $430.
Exactly.
I really like what they tried to do with this one, and it looks like the execution was well done too. Seriously though, Da Fuq?
Right.
the worst part is gonna be the dealers, if they buy some stock they wont be selling all of them and they are gonna take the biggest hit to get rid of them
My pocket clip has the same issues as yours. And my thumb studs are two totally different shades of blue lmao
🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
I think it’s a good looking knife
Oh I agree with you there.
My thoughts exactly price point is steep while the design is lackluster
Yep. Sadly that’s the case.
Are the handles too thin? Has anyone tested the comfort in harder or longer use?
Too thin is really subjective. I have not done any real testing yet but I would say did anything ‘hard use’ whatever that means…this is not the right tool. This is a great EDC type tool fir daily work. This is not intended for harder outdoor, camping, bushcraft type work. There are better options for that.
@@DirkWerning My bugout with carbon fiber scales is my edc, and when I am in the outdoors it is my back up. It is durable enough ,and even though there are more comfortable handled folders, it is comfortable enough for short carving tasks.
Are you going to chop down a tree, no. Can I buy a $50 folder and it be uncomfortable, yes. Can I buy a $500 knife and it not do a lot and extremely well, no.
These are not in the same category, but as the customer I only have so much money: why would I not go with rmj tactical hawk, custom kitchen knife, any lt wright knife
Good points. We go out our money where our mind goes 🤷🏼♂️
Great knives, Even better warranty. Seriously unrealistic prices at this point, in my opinion.
Yes they have a great warranty but the quality has fallen off recently.
I like the knife and I’ve definitely overpayed for some but that price is pretty ridiculous even for benchmade
YEP
good review. thanks for sharing. it is a stunning knife. I have it too. but I still think $580 is too much. Honestly, for that money you can buy much nicer knives
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Cool knife and a cool design. Awful nice of Benchmade to pass on the savings! They do seem to be trying to race to the top of the price point for production knives though.
Sadly you’re correct.
Omega springs?
It’s the spring style that is in ‘most’ of the bar lock type knives. Looks like the Greek Omega symbol
I dont mind paying a premium price for a premium knife…but… there price on this is totally outside the realm of reasonable.
Right
Honestly it's likely 100 to 125 to expensive, it's not outrageously expensive, just my opinion. If I had the money I'd buy one because I think they're cool. I honestly hope they come in a Magnacut variant bc I would save for that!
Guess time will tell.
@@DirkWerning it will, it's just opinions, everyone has them! One could argue overhead for Benchmade could be a reason for escalated price vs ABW but then you could argue that Benchmade can get materials cheaper bc they order more. So who knows......
@@jamesmacy7880 oh I totally agree.
@@DirkWerning love the conversation though, it's good to pick through minds on this stuff rather than going straight to bashing ya know! I appreciate that! That's why I started following!
@@jamesmacy7880 thanks I appreciate that. I’m not the bashing type.
I guess benchmade had been showing our wallets mercy by making plastic knives 😂
Hahaha
Now that's funny🤣
It's insane that I have knives with blades about the same thickness of the body. Its very intriguing to me. Honestly, I don't know why people are shocked at the price for such a redesign. If you want a new design, you will have to accept the R&D cost. It isn't likely overpriced. The definition of custom-made is sometimes in question.
Good points. Yes I have MANY knives with blades as thick or thicker than this entire knife lolol
It looks like a knife with the scales removed. Liners with a pocket clip.
😂😂😂😂 that’s GREAT.
That knife should have been 400$ out of the gate and 375$ after it was easy to get. I'd buy one then, cool concept. We love American made, not American greed.
@@ct2368 EXACTLY
Imagine how much a premium version would cost. Say Magnacut, shred carbon and titanium liners. LOL
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I remembered when the benchmade anthem first came out, people lost there mind over the price ($525).... Benchmade discontinued it, now people are paying $700+ for a used one, I see the same thing happening with the Narrows. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Hmmm maybe 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
The Anthem being an integral makes it's price a bit more justifiable, like the Spyderco Paysan. The Narrow is a simple sandwich construction with barrel spacers, much cheaper to manufacture, only time will tell if it's a gem or junk.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. If it weren't for the crippling inflation, this knife would be a respectable $300-ish.
Oh I agree it’s a STUPID game.
The price has a lot to do with the R&D cost because they are literally using the absolute minimum amount of titanium for the strongest yet lightest build possible. Great job BENCHMADE!!!
So after you sell 100 units drop the price :)
Unless you’re Benchmade, in which case the price will increase at the beginning of the year.
Hmmm it’s still over priced in my opinion.
R&D costs?? Wut? It's a freakin folding knife not an airplane. There are already companies doing Benchmades crossbar lock better than them and titanium for a quarter of the price of this knife. Benchmade has absolutely lost their mind with the price on this knife. Even the USA made can't be an excuse you can get far superior USA made knives, multiple even for the price of this thing. Ridiculous.
@@steveswanson5890 haha I hear ya man. It’s pretty crazy. BUT they are selling 🤷🏼♂️
There is an overall, joint effort, by all things for sale, attempting to destroy the economy (specifically the upper middle class). One of those tactics is charging more... for less.
580 dollars...what the heck is going on with bm?! you are absolutely right with your rant, that's simply disgusting.
the handle milling isn't even complex, i've seen more impressive stuff for 1/3 of the price.
imagine what you can get for that money..chris reeve, spartan, demko, all better built than any benchmade ever.
Absolutely agree. Thanks.
Two of my LCpls bought these at the PX when Benchmade came here. They got the "military discount" for the low price of $450ish.
Go to hell Benchmade.
With such a thin blade, why not a tougher steel like MagnaCut?
The pricing on this is way out of line, especially for something that seems so niche. It's not like there aren't easily carried, light cutting platforms out there. Sure, it may be thinner and lighter than others in this niche with titanium but marginal differences for orders of magnitude of a higher price tag? Hard pass for me.
Agreed I’m very unimpressed with the blade steel choice. YES it’s thin, but is that needed????
This is where Benchmade jumps the shark. An overpriced answer to a question no one is asking.
Haha great way to put it. Thank you.
I played with one today at EKnives and I liked it! But not for $525!!!!! After tax you’re looking at what almost $600! NNNOOO
Exactly
At least The James Brand Barnes is an integral. No freakin’ way two slabs of mass-produced slab-on-standoffs construction is worth over $500.
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I’m not a huge fan of mine. Yea it’s thin and still very solid. But mine makes a grinding noise every time I open it and the action on it is very mediocre in my opinion. No titanium hardware and a stamped steel pocket clip is just sad at this price. 58-61hrc on m390 is underwhelming as well.
300$ knife tops in my opinion. The only reason I’m keeping mine is I’m expecting it to be discontinued fairly soon cause I wouldn’t recommend anyone actually spend 522$ on this knife no way no how
I think the 300 range has been the general consensus here.
Mine is super smooth and if there was more detent it would be amazing action.
But I agree I can’t really recommend the cost.
I just bought the clone of the Benchmade narrows $20 shipped it's fantastic at that price at $500 its trash
Regardless of my thoughts on the price of the Narrows I do not condone buying clones.
When you can get a Sebenza, Inkosi, or umnumzaan in magnacut for the same price or less this cost doesn’t make sense.
Exactly. Thanks.
Benchmade bumped their heads!!! Hell they should recall the narrows for weak spring..... They charging mid-tech price for production knives... no thanks... atleast the anthem was an integral!
Yep I feel ya there.
Looks cool but not for that price if two came together then all day
ugh! its almost too thin for my taste. I thought the bug out was a little too thin, but this.....as if that wasn't enough, they've milled pockets into the ti. I don't know, I'm still on the fence. it's great looking, but for the price, i gotta watch more reviews. I don't really care how they justify the price, I don't know if I can.
I’m right there with you. Even if I take the price away…do I want this knife? I’m not sure yet. It’s cool but is it something I would actually EDC??
$300 knife at most. There’s nothing unique about it other than being thin. Though that’s kind of cool.
@@vox707 riiiiight
Might as well buy a second hand benchmade anthem
Right
$580!!! Id rather buy an XM-18 and still have enough to take the wife to a nice dinner and a movie
@@MartinMartin-xm8xs 💯💯
So, you know I’m a thinner knife guy, but this, why? This is breaking my excessive line when it comes to thinness. It’s going to be uncomfortable to use, and I understand that I’m mostly talk about extremer use cases, but I will sometimes have to cut heavier cardboard that requires a far more secure grip that would make this unusable, imho. The price, Benchmade can go away with that. This knife bugs me, so maybe I’m jaded
I hear ya man. It’s certainly got EVERYONE thinking something. Lolol
For that price, I’ll hunt down a Sebenza
Very true.
Be patient and there will be a quality Chinese version for less than $100 😊
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lol, waiting for Rike to do something bigger, lighter, and thinner. Might happen, never know. Won't be $100 but I'd guess it would be significantly less than $580.
Price is far out of bounds for what it is. The scales would have been designed on a computer and it wouldn’t have taken much longer than any other scales.
Agreed I think they are STRETCHING at the R&D factor.
I'll never own one....lot better value out there
Lots of options for SURE
Nope on that price. BM must have lost the plot
$690 for a Herman custom knife, $580 for this…
You make a good point, “we use American titanium!”… then why aren’t you using CPM-20CV which is practically identical to M390 but is American… Benchmade have lost it entirely
Yep great analogy there!!!!
Not half the knife the anthem was and it’s $150 more expensive…
Yep it’s got some explaining to do lolol
When their patent ran out.....they ran out.....too.
Hmm that might be the time things started to shift 🤔
Make it 9 inches and we‘re talking, maybe. For that price? omg wtf 🤣
Haha
AFTER MARKET CAN'T BAIL'UM OUTTA THIS SCREW UP, ALONG WITH THE SISSY ALUMINIUM
Sissy aluminum ??
@@DirkWerning i was THINKING OF A GALS KEYCHAIN
I wouldn't piss on it to put out a fire.....
@@erictalkington5674 😂😂
Nope. Too much for me... Like you said.. one can get a custom for that price
Okay good it’s not just me then.
You could get a plane Jane sebenza for 450. Prolly get a Medford in that price range to. Spartan? Yeah. Who knows what else. I'll pass on this one.
Yessir
“Research and Development”?! Hahahaha… sorry BM, the drug company excuse doesn’t work in a field where we all know you just whip it up in CAD and slap out a few proto’s on the mill until you figure “good enuff”.
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Love Benchmade. However, this knife is too expensive! It won’t be among my extensive high end Benchmade collection at that price! Very disappointing!!!
Completely agree.
If that was a $250 I still wouldnt buy it.
Lol I hear ya.
I think it's too thin to be comfortable in the hand I won't be buying one
It is thin and depending on what the intent is on use you are right it could be TOO THIN
Underbuilt & overpriced 😂
Perfectly stated.
if it was on sale for $200.00 I would PASS !! the Chinese are making better knives for $150.00........and that SUCKS BALLS ....OnWard
BOYCOTT BM....is what I say.
Benchmade se fou de la gueule de ses clients ! rien ne pourra jamais venir justifier le prix de ce couteau , Benchmade perds en crédibilité , et avec la féroce concurrence , Benchmade ne fait plus partie de la course aux couteaux , ils sont aux oubliettes , et ils ont voulu remonter la pente en doublant le prix de leurs derniers modèles , ce 748 ne vaut pas plus de 200/250 dollars , rien d'exceptionnel en plus , du titane simple , du M390 , un clip de poche de merde et dégueulasse ! la seule nouveauté est son bouton que j'aime bien , la finesse du couteau , le titane est bien machiné certes , mais une fois de plus , rien ne pourra justifier des prix aussi fantaisistes , il faut que Benchmade arrête de se toucher la nuit ... 😂
rediculous...
this knife is complete garbage
Haha okay care to share why?? Other than the price?
If it was being sold by a small business with a long waiting list and a frag pattern y’all would pay $750.
Hmm that’s a good point. I do think people would be more inclined to pay the $600 is it was a smaller company with hand work. But from a large production company just busting them out….
@@DirkWerning The problem is that half of the supposed small makers are actually just designers and are doing a Hoback on us.
@@4rmys4e48 that’s also often times true.
I love benchmaid. but my god, their knives have gottenexpensive. I stopped after forty of them.
Yep.