What a wonderful gift and relationship you've been able to form with Laura and Gill and the Old train station. It's very interesting to see the original plans and know what it looked like. It will be interesting to see a miniature station and actually an art piece for them to cherish and display. Nicely done that you've taken such an interest in their project. Look forward to seeing the videos and the build.
Just found your channel after catching up on The old Station Renovation channel videos. Its so cool you we're able to fine original plans. You hit the jackpot. Laura and Gil should frame a copy of the original drawings to hang up in the station after the renovation. Can't wait to see the model. Keep up the amazing work.
There's something about original drawings that makes a building feel more reel. I can almost see the staff and passengers using this building on a daily basis.
So pleased the stuff those Railway Company plans on the The National Archives website proved to so useful. Also dead impressed that TNA turned round your digitisation request so quickly, though they've not updated their catalogue yet to show they have been digitised. Very impressive how close you were.
Thank you Andrew for pointing me in the right direction, I can't thank you enough. TNA were brilliant with the request and very speedy with the digitizing process.
The Old Station Renovation linked this channel so here I am, just love everything about railways of every type. Looking forward to the model making aspects.
Interesting, I'm excited to follow along because I love Laura and Gil's channel. PLEASE include a miniature Beagle for Buddie and, I think Lab, for Winston (ball included), haha. There cannot be a station without them regardless of the era! Laura will laugh at my suggestion because I'm ALWAYS commenting about their dogs. See you next video.
The third drawing sheet, top, right-hand detail section, also shows that the doors have transom windows, which open inwards. There are red lines detailing the swing arc of the window when opened for that summertime breeze.
In your drawing you have drawn the door of the porters office in the opposite direction as in the original drawing. It also makes sense that that door is symmetrically mirrored with that of the station master office.
Also for an idea of the scale for this plan, don't know if you noticed but there's a scale on one of the pages, mainly the one with front, top and side views that states the plans are to a scale of 8 ft to 1 inch
Another insight into your dedication to accuracy, plus your inquisitive instinct with your original idea of how it looked. A very interesting video, Julian.
In an image of one of the other 'identical' stations on the line I found, they didn't include those wooden louvres in the Gents, just brickwork at that location.
@@highpath4776 Ignore what I said! Having found the image again (actually Efail Isaf station), I can now see it's taken from the entrance side and so looking at the opposite end of the building. Doh!
G'day Julian. Magic discovery and not nerdy for the son of an architect. A question about safe working on the line which may suggest potential uses for the outside additional buildings. If the original line was single line or absolute block working, then the larger of the buildings may have been a platform mounted signal box/token exchange point. A lamp room is definitely a strong possibility for the smaller structure. Interior fitout of the station building was quite possibly (given the damp nature of the UK} dressed flagstone floors, glazed ceramic tiling from floor to about 2 1/2 -3 feet above floor with timber panelling to ceiling height. Onya Kiwi👍👍
Not sure , most to me were panneled in various ways (wainscotting , or vertical running slats, with plaster painted fitted above waistrail height but the entrance lobby might be pannelled to full height ). ( see north woolwich station/ some southern stations on the bluebell line )
As far as I could tell, the station didn't have a signal box, certainly not in the near vicinity of the station building. Double track line, there was a footbridge to platform 2 and a watercrane on platform 1.
Them plans are fascinating. I could tell by the smile on your face, they'll be a massive help to you. Not that i doubt your building capabilities Julian, far from it but may i suggest grabbing a word with Tony North Eastern on RUclips, the same guy is doing a very similar scratch build of Tyne Dock station. Even if it's just for a few hints n tips. Really looking forward to see how this gets made going forward.
@StationRoadModelRailway I hope this didn't come over as me saying, oh watch Tony, on how to build yours. Far from it, I just meant the similarities in your projects regarding the interiors. I'm sorry if it came over that way Julian.
Thanks for the tip, I will create a playlist for this series. The station features from this point ruclips.net/video/kw225iBrMo4/видео.htmlsi=mMuIEjEvWsnwwJQ8 but there is a bit of other modelling activity going on.
Greetings from Northland. It wasn’t nerdy in the least. It was like an episode of Time Team. Came over from Laura & Gil’s channel and Laura is delighted by your kindness. I look forward to see your model come together. How in earth are you going to get it sent from NZ to Wales for it to arrive in one piece?
Closer to what I had said a couple of weeks back on their channel, although I'd thought the Gents were in the out house and all the bottom left was a staff/porters. Mind you having seen all those glazed tiles did kind of seal a change that the first quarter from the left were toilet based.
I initially thought the out-building was a gents toilet before they discovered the glazed bricks. I believe the 2 rooms in the out-building would have been for coal and lamps.
@@StationRoadModelRailway Yeah pretty much the same until seeing that whole area covered in glazed tile. I sent them an Email with a picture of Efail Isaf Railway Station which is the same design of building. I note that the Signal Box at their station was way off down south of the main building. Where do you think the water for the water supply to the platform watering cranes for engines, I looked at the maps from 1840 to 1914 era and I don't see a Dando Windmill or a sizable above ground water tank. I think Laura thinks that the water was tanked under the platform, I think it came from the near river but there must be a supply point somewhere that a tank of some description?
I am sure there is a Metcalfe design similar to this. The Barry Railway design appears not that disimilar to later ones used by the Great Central Railway (which was finished / built in stone).
This station that I'm modelling is actually replacing a Metcalfe station I had in the same location on the layout. Slowly I'm replacing my Metcalfe kits with scratch-build models based on real buildings.
What a wonderful gift and relationship you've been able to form with Laura and Gill and the Old train station. It's very interesting to see the original plans and know what it looked like. It will be interesting to see a miniature station and actually an art piece for them to cherish and display. Nicely done that you've taken such an interest in their project. Look forward to seeing the videos and the build.
Hello, just popped over from The Old Station Renovation, really looking farward to this and catching up on your past videos. 🔔+👍
I also poppen over from The Old Station Renovation. 😄
i lived in the old station for 12 years. even i didnt know all that 😁 i did know about the ceramic tiles and stuff though.
Oh wow! It must be fascinating watching Laura and Gil's channel. Did you live there before or after the 1980's renovations?
@@StationRoadModelRailway i lived there until very recently 😉 yeah i am loving their videos.
How amazing that you tracked down the original plans!!!! ❤🚂
Well done Julian, what a wonderful discovery. Love the photo with the canopy extension.
Just found your channel
after catching up on
The old Station Renovation channel videos. Its so cool you we're able to fine original plans. You hit the jackpot. Laura and Gil should frame a copy of the original drawings to hang up in the station after the renovation. Can't wait to see the model. Keep up the amazing work.
Those elevation drawings will help you immensely, when creating your model, Julian. Very cool.
There's something about original drawings that makes a building feel more reel. I can almost see the staff and passengers using this building on a daily basis.
So pleased the stuff those Railway Company plans on the The National Archives website proved to so useful. Also dead impressed that TNA turned round your digitisation request so quickly, though they've not updated their catalogue yet to show they have been digitised.
Very impressive how close you were.
Thank you Andrew for pointing me in the right direction, I can't thank you enough. TNA were brilliant with the request and very speedy with the digitizing process.
A lot better than the NRM. I've been waiting for a scan from them since 30th July!
The Old Station Renovation linked this channel so here I am, just love everything about railways of every type. Looking forward to the model making aspects.
Julian, Great Research and it payed off in the end Love seeing the plans. Regards Greg
Research above and beyond the call of duty……. Well done Julian.
Interesting, I'm excited to follow along because I love Laura and Gil's channel. PLEASE include a miniature Beagle for Buddie and, I think Lab, for Winston (ball included), haha. There cannot be a station without them regardless of the era! Laura will laugh at my suggestion because I'm ALWAYS commenting about their dogs. See you next video.
I think some four-legged friends can be organised.
@@StationRoadModelRailway Love it! Thank you.
Hi from Sweden! Now it's getting really exciting!!
The third drawing sheet, top, right-hand detail section, also shows that the doors have transom windows, which open inwards. There are red lines detailing the swing arc of the window when opened for that summertime breeze.
In your drawing you have drawn the door of the porters office in the opposite direction as in the original drawing. It also makes sense that that door is symmetrically mirrored with that of the station master office.
Good spotting, that will be a remanent from the guessed plan.
I suspect also that the general booking hall would have had bench seats along the walls, except where the parcels/ladies doors are.
Came over from “The Old Station” looks like a fabulous channel you have … liked and subscribed 😊😊
Hi regarding your station building brick work I think it maybe Flemish bond or English bond .
This is incredibly fascinating! Thank you for all for the work that you’ve done.
This is so interesting. I am learning so much.
A terrific find! Looking forward to seeing how the model progresses.
Absolutely fascinating!
Fascinating stuff - brilliant!
Also for an idea of the scale for this plan, don't know if you noticed but there's a scale on one of the pages, mainly the one with front, top and side views that states the plans are to a scale of 8 ft to 1 inch
Thank you for the video and very nice development to have the original plans. Great job. Best Albrecht
Another insight into your dedication to accuracy, plus your inquisitive instinct with your original idea of how it looked. A very interesting video, Julian.
In an image of one of the other 'identical' stations on the line I found, they didn't include those wooden louvres in the Gents, just brickwork at that location.
probably depends on local materials, thought, and to some extent would it be alterations if the wood rotted?
@@highpath4776 Ignore what I said! Having found the image again (actually Efail Isaf station), I can now see it's taken from the entrance side and so looking at the opposite end of the building. Doh!
@@steveNCB7754 easy error, I still cannot work out the platform side to the road side of the real thing in the vids
Brilliant! Very clever of you
First in? You were pretty close, the original plans are fascinating
G'day Julian. Magic discovery and not nerdy for the son of an architect. A question about safe working on the line which may suggest potential uses for the outside additional buildings. If the original line was single line or absolute block working, then the larger of the buildings may have been a platform mounted signal box/token exchange point. A lamp room is definitely a strong possibility for the smaller structure. Interior fitout of the station building was quite possibly (given the damp nature of the UK} dressed flagstone floors, glazed ceramic tiling from floor to about 2 1/2 -3 feet above floor with timber panelling to ceiling height. Onya Kiwi👍👍
Not sure , most to me were panneled in various ways (wainscotting , or vertical running slats, with plaster painted fitted above waistrail height but the entrance lobby might be pannelled to full height ). ( see north woolwich station/ some southern stations on the bluebell line )
As far as I could tell, the station didn't have a signal box, certainly not in the near vicinity of the station building. Double track line, there was a footbridge to platform 2 and a watercrane on platform 1.
This now makes sense for why the Gents toilets had an external entry door instead of an internal entry door like the Ladies toilets had.
Please amend the spelling from Toitlets as in your drawings.
Hello from the UK
@8:37, your guesses were not too far off the mark.
Them plans are fascinating. I could tell by the smile on your face, they'll be a massive help to you. Not that i doubt your building capabilities Julian, far from it but may i suggest grabbing a word with Tony North Eastern on RUclips, the same guy is doing a very similar scratch build of Tyne Dock station. Even if it's just for a few hints n tips. Really looking forward to see how this gets made going forward.
I'm an avid viewer on Tony's channel and have been following his Tyne Dock build with great interest.
@StationRoadModelRailway I hope this didn't come over as me saying, oh watch Tony, on how to build yours. Far from it, I just meant the similarities in your projects regarding the interiors. I'm sorry if it came over that way Julian.
Which is your first video on Wenvoe Station model build please?
Will you create a Wenvoe Station model playlist?
Thanks for the tip, I will create a playlist for this series. The station features from this point ruclips.net/video/kw225iBrMo4/видео.htmlsi=mMuIEjEvWsnwwJQ8 but there is a bit of other modelling activity going on.
What station are these plans for?
Greetings from Northland. It wasn’t nerdy in the least. It was like an episode of Time Team. Came over from Laura & Gil’s channel and Laura is delighted by your kindness. I look forward to see your model come together.
How in earth are you going to get it sent from NZ to Wales for it to arrive in one piece?
There is some future return travel to the UK at some point, so my thoughts are to bring it with me as carry-on.
Interesting no sink for washing up ones enamel tea mugs
That was very cool 👌👌
Closer to what I had said a couple of weeks back on their channel, although I'd thought the Gents were in the out house and all the bottom left was a staff/porters. Mind you having seen all those glazed tiles did kind of seal a change that the first quarter from the left were toilet based.
I initially thought the out-building was a gents toilet before they discovered the glazed bricks. I believe the 2 rooms in the out-building would have been for coal and lamps.
@@StationRoadModelRailway Yeah pretty much the same until seeing that whole area covered in glazed tile. I sent them an Email with a picture of Efail Isaf Railway Station which is the same design of building. I note that the Signal Box at their station was way off down south of the main building. Where do you think the water for the water supply to the platform watering cranes for engines, I looked at the maps from 1840 to 1914 era and I don't see a Dando Windmill or a sizable above ground water tank. I think Laura thinks that the water was tanked under the platform, I think it came from the near river but there must be a supply point somewhere that a tank of some description?
I am sure there is a Metcalfe design similar to this. The Barry Railway design appears not that disimilar to later ones used by the Great Central Railway (which was finished / built in stone).
This station that I'm modelling is actually replacing a Metcalfe station I had in the same location on the layout. Slowly I'm replacing my Metcalfe kits with scratch-build models based on real buildings.
On the idea of decorating the interior waist height down would be brown and above that line it would be cream/ beige in colour
Bingo !! Amazing !!
great vid
See station as filmed in Oh Mr Porter as "Buggleskelly"